The last part of our interview with the A's broadcaster par excellence.
Here it is, the last segment of the mammoth conference we had back in Spring Training with Capt. Ken... thanks one more time go to him and to Jesa for grinding out the transcription, as well as Nico and Bryan for participating and you guys for your razor-sharp inquiries. Parts I.... II... and III are all linked here.
EN: All right, here’s one from… as my screen goes blank… mrod, a friend of ours wants to know: As a baseball fan, what non-A’s player, or players, does he… do you enjoy watching the most, and why? And also, as an A’s broadcaster, what one thing about covering the A’s team do you enjoy the most? So favorite or most-entertaining-to-you opposing player, or players… and what about the A’s, as being what the A’s are, I mean… their unique circumstance, do you enjoy the most?
KK: I’d say the player I enjoy watching the most right now is Josh Hamilton. Because I just think he’s, he is beyond good…
EN: Yeah.
KK: He is probably one of the few gifted, truly gifted, players that I’ve seen. I’ve never seen a more talented player in my lifetime, and I saw Clemente and Mays. I’m not saying he’s had their kind of, that kind of career yet…
EN: Right.
KK: He has a long ways to go but, one of the things about growing up in my generation… Aaron, Mays, McCovey, Clemente, Koufax. I mean, Gibson… these were the idols that I had as a kid. And I think Hamilton, if he can stay healthy, has that kind of ability. I mean, it is supernatural ability.
EN: Sometimes (unintelligible) and say, oh, here comes Roy Hobbs…
KK: Yeah. He’s, he’s just an amazing talent. The best thing about broadcasting A’s games?
EN: Yeah.
KK: …I would say…
EN: I would phrase the question as being, the A’s being a unique franchise…
KK: Well…
EN: that’s, you’re not just calling any team; the A’s are… have a historical and current, impact and identification, in baseball as a sport that occupies a unique niche…
KK: Yeah. I think…
EN: and place, and what about… what about being the A’s play-by-play man is most, you know… what’s most appealing about that?
KK: Well, first of all I should preface this by saying, and I should have mentioned this earlier: the A’s organization has treated me wonderfully. I have the best working environment that anybody could possibly have. From the standpoint of a conducive atmosphere from the front office to my boss, Ken Pries; I’ve never had anybody looking over my shoulder, questioning anything I do. They’re not sitting there reviewing my work. I feel that I can be myself and do the game the way I think it should be done and if it’s not any good I take full responsibility for that. Because I don’t have to conform to anyone’s standards other than to do the best job that I hopefully can do. They have treated me with amazing… an amazing amount of respect over… from the day I started until now. You couldn’t have that, that kind of… it would be pretty hard to duplicate, having that kind of atmosphere to work in.
The other thing is that the A’s have, it’s kind of hard to separate the A’s from the kind of funkiness of the Bay Area, you know? I mean, you go back to the long hair of the ‘70s and all that and, you know… I mean there’s a uniqueness to the Bay Area which I’ve always been attracted to. You know, I went to all the concerts at Winterland and all that when I was younger and, you know… "Days on the Green"…
EN: You were probably, I was going to say… we were watching A Day On the Green from the Coliseum, from 1976. It was Peter Frampton, you were probably at…
KK: I was not at that.
EN: Okay.
EVERYONE: (laughing)
EN: Everybody looked like they were having a good time at that one.
KK: Yeah. And so, you know, you, it’s hard to separate a sports team from its area.
EN: Yeah.
KK: You know, because the sports team is not just the team. It’s the fans, it’s the vibe… and the A’s always had that kind of vibe. You know, Billy and David Forst and those guys are wearing shorts today, or blue jeans or whatever, the kind of informality of it…
EN: Right.
KK: …I’ve always been very attracted to. And I have a feeling that if I bring up some sort of musical reference on the air some, you know, old-time hippie up in Guerneville might be thinking, "Oh, wow…
EN: (laughing)
KK: …"I might have been at that show, too!"
EVERYONE: (laughing)
EN: The whole Russian River stands and applauds…
KK: Yeah. So…
EVERYONE: (laughing)
KK: So, you know… there’s an element of that where, being kind of from the Bay Area, moving there in 1979, you can’t separate yourself from the area and the team, and all that should be part of it.
EN: Someone wants to ask that…GreggC, now that you touched on it: What do you listen to? Favorite bands, now and then.
KK: Well I’m the all-time anachronism, so don’t ask me about anything after 1973. (laughing) So, you know…
EVERYONE: (laughing)
KK: I listen to all the stuff because I have a 19-year old daughter.
EN: Okay.
KK: Okay, and now she’s driving and I have to listen to all of her music when I’m in the car. Some of it I like, some of it I, I don’t particularly care for…
EVERYONE: (laughing)
KK: I can’t name a lot of the bands but I do listen to a lot of current music.
EN: What about old-school music?
KK: Well, I took Joe Stiglich of "The CC Times" (Contra Costa Times)…
EN: Sure.
KK: We went and saw Jackson Browne last week…
EN: Nice.
KK: …here in Phoenix. So, the most recent CD I bought was the Elton John/Leon Russell…
EN: Sure.
KK: …record, which I think is a fabulous record. I shouldn’t even say "record," but to me they’re still records…
EN: Sure.
KK: …which probably is the best thing that Elton John has done in 30 years, I think. It’s wonderful and Leon Russell was someone I really loved when I was younger. So I thought it was a really tasteful, wonderful collaboration.
EN: I just listened to 11/17/70.
KK: Really? Which was?
EN: Live Elton John (album). In 1970.
KK: Yeah. Well I saw Elton John in 1970 at the Civic Center in San Diego. And I, you know, I went and saw all those bands back then. I saw Springsteen’s first appearance, which I believe was his first appearance on the West Coast at the Roxy Theater…
EN: In L.A.?
KK: …in L.A. and then I saw him the next night at Santa Barbara UCSB, Robertson Gym. I’m not sure if it was the first, but a lot of people said it was the first. So I was a big fan of Springsteen. I’ve seen the (Rolling) Stones a lot, lot of Grateful Dead shows…
EN: How many Dead shows you went to?
KK: Probably a dozen? You know, and all the offshoots that, Merl Saunders, Jerry Garcia, all the Bob Weir…
EN: Sure. Your first Dead show was it pre-‘72, did you get to see Pigpen?
KK: I never saw Pigpen.
EN: So after ’72.
KK: After Pigpen. Yeah.
EN: Yeah. Progressive at all?
KK: I was a really big fan of the Eagles…
EN: Okay.
KK: …still am, a lot of their old stuff. In fact, when I come down and drive into the desert here, it reminds me of "Tequila Sunrise" and "Peaceful Easy Feeling," and even the early Eagles, the Bernie Leadon days before Joe Walsh…
EN: I love the Flying Burrito Brothers, so…
KK: Yeah, Flying Burrito Brothers were great…
EN: Bernie Leadon started with them and then helped start the Eagles.
KK: Yeah. Pure Prairie League and those kind of groups…
EN: So, country rock kind of stuff?
KK: Yeah, but I’m, I was also…
EN: Head, Hands and Feet?
KK: ..but I was also really into the English…
EN: I was going to ask, Progressive rock…
KK: …you know, I’ve, I saw Jethro Tull in San Diego. I saw The Who. Huge fan of the Stones. So, Traffic, you know… Traffic with Stevie Winwood. We used to go out and see Dave Mason all the time after he broke from Traffic, you know, so I was a… you know, Bob Dylan and the folk scene, James Taylor, and a lot of the…
BC: (laughs)
KK: …Arlo Guthrie, those people who were…
EN: Sure.
KK: … you know…
EN: Guys with guitars.
KK: Yeah. Yeah. Peter, Paul and Mary, you know, that kind of group. I saw Ramblin’ Jack Elliot a couple years ago when, at a little theater…
EN: Sure.
KK: ….in Minneapolis…
EN: Jack Elliott was a tremendous influence on Dylan.
KK: Yeah. So those, you know, nothing…
EN: I really, like you said…
KK: I’ll tell you who I really like. I really like U2. A lot. I haven’t seen them in concert…
EN: They are playing at the Coliseum.
KK: Yeah, I know.
EN: June 7th.
KK: Yeah. I’m probably on the road then.
EN: That’s true.
EVERYONE: (laughing)
BC: It would make an interesting game, though. Bono playing the outfield.
EVERYONE: (laughing)
KK: Yeah. I really like them. A lot. I’m probably forgetting some people, you know…
EN: It’s okay. No, we wanted to get a flavor and you gave us more than…
KK: Yeah.
EN: …and you did. That’s great.
KK: Yeah.
EN: Here’s one from stm72 again: Everybody on the blog -- or most of us, all of us -- think that you have one of the, if not the most, unique "strike three" calls in baseball. Maybe the most. If you’re going to pick a broadcaster, let’s say, for their…
KK: Right.
EN: …their, sort of, theater of call that they do, that’s their signature sort of call, you might be the one that people pick for the strikeout… and how did you come up with "Ring him up…"?
KK: I have no idea.
EN: It just, came out?
KK: I have no idea.
EN: (laughing)
KK: I honestly have no idea.
EN: It just happened.
KK: I don’t know.
EN: You don’t remember the first time you did it, it just kind of…
KK: No. I have no memory of ever… when I used it first…
EN: The best calls are probably like that.
KK: I don’t remember. I do… I can tell you that now, I tend to use it because it’s probably the only thing I… signature I…because I don’t have a home run call. You know, I…
EN: …"Watch it fly!", that’s pretty…
KK: Yeah, a little bit…
EN: …(that’s more) sort of recently, "Watch it fly!" is a little more recent for you.
KK: Yeah, but I…
BC: "And that’s the way our ballgame begins…"
KK: Yeah, that I got from John Rooney who I… there are certain things I do where I pay homage to people I’ve worked with or respect. John Rooney who was one who I actually… John Rooney would go do the CBS "Game of the Week," back in the halcyon days of baseball on the radio; when CBS had Ernie Harwell and the greats doing the games, John Rooney was the number one voice of CBS radio. Basketball. Baseball. And that’s how I got my job with the White Sox, because he left every weekend to do the Game of the Week. He’d do the Sunday night game, (in) ‘93 he did the Saturday game. John Rooney always used to say "And that’s the way our ballgame begins," and I think I borrowed that from John. I have to be, perfectly, you know… full disclosure…
EN: Ah, full disclosure, you know…
KK: Yeah.
EN: It’s like Milton Berle said, "I never stole a joke I didn’t like," or…
KK: Yeah. But I never had a home run call that I am aware of…"watch if fly," I guess, you know.
EN: Yeah, that’s, like I said… more recent.
KK: Yeah.
EN: But the strike three call is… like I said, if you pick one in the league, that would be your, you know, what I think their first choice would be…
KK: Yeah. I have no idea where it came from.
NP: Is it an homage when you say, "It’s great to have you with us," after, you know, saying "This is Ken Korach, Vince Cotroneo, and Ray Fosse"… ‘cause that’s pretty consistent. Or maybe it just really is always great to have us.
EVERYONE: (laughing)
KK: You know, that’s a… I’m being honest, you know, I try to be honest. There’s an ESPN announcer named Mike Patrick who does that a lot and I think he might have been the first one that I heard do that, and I remember when I was in… doing a talk show, having him on the show as a guest, and he was one of the nicest people; I’d never met him. He was so nice and gracious and just… I was a nobody doing this talk show so I never really thought about that, but maybe it’s a slight homage to him? You know, I don’t know.
[[At this point we heard the recorder click to a stop, denoting a full 74 minutes had gone by since we first sat down back there at the picnic table. Whilst I changed mini-discs, Bryan asked Ken if he thought Bill King had a realistic shot of getting into the Baseball Hall of Fame via the Ford C. Frick Award, and if he thought it made any difference that so many of us have voted for Bill year after year since he’s missed getting in every time.]]
BC: …just, from a fan’s perspective, I’ll just kind of throw out my opinion about the whole thing. I was… I got really… I’m never going to go on there and vote again because, they ask you for your opinion, and you vote, and then they just do whatever and ignore…
KK: Well, that’s not totally true.
BC: It’s… it’s not true?
KK: No, because you can vote to get someone on there as a finalist. In other words, that’s what the voting is for.
BC: Okay. Right, right, okay.
KK: The voting is, the voting is to determine, at least I think…
BC: The three.
KK: The three people that go on the ballot…from the vehicle, which is the Internet ballot.
BC: Right, right.
KK: And so you can always, you know I would encourage people to always do that ‘cause that’s the best way to go on…
BC?: Yeah.
KK: ‘Cause I don’t even think he was a finalist. I’m not even sure he was the year before last because he didn’t win the Internet voting. So if Bill can…
BC: All right, then. We’ll continue to vote.
KK: Yeah.
NP: Well, what thwarts me is that I cannot think of another broadcaster in any sport, who was a three-sport master.
EN: That’s what I was going to say…
KK: Right.
EN: Do you think that that dilutes it for him? Do you think that being a three-sport master maybe, the only one who really comes to mind in the modern era who was, you know, legendary in three of the major four sports, does that dilute it for him?
KK: Well, I don’t think it dilutes for him for the Frick award. And there were… honestly were…. there are a lot of people that are very good at all three. You know, Bill was brilliant in all three. I think it’s diluted it for him a little bit even in the Bay Area though, because you hear a lot of people say baseball was his weakest sport. I mean, I’ve heard that a lot, and I always took umbrage with that because the memories of Bill doing basketball and football are so indelible, especially when you’re younger, and when Bill was doing the Warriors, there weren’t that many games on TV so you kind of had to listen to radio (in) the Raider days; these were the days when the Raiders were so compelling...
EN: Right.
KK: You would always listen to Bill…
BC: Every like… every big Raider call is Bill King.
KK: Absolutely. And so I’ve heard people say, "Well, he was better in those other sports." Which I don’t agree with, ‘cause I think he was brilliant at baseball but I think even in the Bay Area…
EN: Sure.
KK: I don’t know that he’s even gotten his just due for his baseball work in the Bay Area.
EN: He started in ‘81 in baseball...
KK: Yeah.
EN: …when more games didn’t come on TV…
KK: Right.
EN: Because as the ‘80s progressed with cable… you cover baseball or broadcast baseball, you had a lot more options for seeing, watching, hearing…
KK: Right.
EN: …and on into now with the computer or viewing a game online so forth, whereas…
KK: Right.
EN: …his signature calls and his period of greatest influence as a basketball and particularly as a football announcer… but that was the only game in town…
KK: Right.
EN: …was radio or TV games, so…
KK: Right.
EN: ..so that might dilute it for him.
KK: Absolutely. But I think it, you know, he was, he was never well-known nationally in baseball. He never did any national games, and you know, he… but that didn’t prevent them from voting Lon in. You know, Lon got in, and Dave Niehaus didn’t have a national profile, so they have at least given due respect to the local announcers.
EN: Sure.
KK: I think there was a time… there was a feeling at one time, that maybe because Bill didn’t have a national profile that might have hurt him. But I’ve been heartened by the fact that a lot of the… some of the guys who were just at work locally have gotten in.
EN: Okay, a couple more here. micdog, I want to ask one of his questions: He wants to know, I mean you sort of touched on this, but materials-wise. First of all, how early do you get to the stadium on the day of a game that you’re broadcasting, and how much time do you spend studying off the books, you know, off the clock let’s say, about the players, the other teams that are… that you’re playing, the other team you’re playing, and do you starting reading up on the other teams during Spring Training? Or do you get more series-by-series where they come in and you can begin to focus on what the other team is about, and what resources do you use to do that? Internet, magazines, newspapers?
KK: Well, the day-to-day I usually spend about an hour and a half at home, or in the hotel, in the morning, working, I guess on average. Some days it will be an hour, some days it might be two, but I would guess that it would be about an hour and a half or so, you know, in the morning. And then I probably spend another half-hour, forty-five minutes before I leave, putting some last minute stuff together. And then I’m usually at the park at 3 o’clock for a 7 o’clock game.
EN: 3 o’clock. So, four hours.
KK: Right. Four hours ahead. And then the… there is so much information available you almost know… you have to know when to stop.
EN: Yeah. Especially now.
KK: Most research now is done on the Internet because the newspapers are all there. There’s very little that’s not on the Internet now, that you can get. You get magazine articles on the Internet. So most of the research would be done in front of the computer. It’s an ongoing process; it’s a year-long process. You know, I read in the off-season. I keep notebooks on all the other teams in the league, files on all the other teams. So I’m trying to gather information even during the off-season.
EN: Paper notebooks?
KK: Yes, paper notebooks. I’m a throwback.
EN: Oh, a throwback. Old school.
KK: Old school. Yeah. So that it’s an ongoing thing, you know… and then I’ve tried… I’ve done a lot of reading. I’ve read a lot of the David Halberstam, the Roger Angell, you know, a lot of those people. Red Smith, Roger Kahn, Steve Kettmann, who used to work for the Chronicle as an A’s beat writer; had written some nice books including "One Day at Fenway," which I really liked. So, I’ve tried to read a lot of baseball books too…
EN: …relative to…
KK: Yeah. You know, I think in our business you should be a historian.
EN: Sure.
KK: You know, I’ll never be a Leonard Koppett, you know, another great name from the past who’s passed away. You know…
EN: Baseball being a sport that’s so historically…
KK: Yeah.
EN: …draws on its history perhaps….
KK: Right.
EN: …more than any other of the sports…
KK: Yeah.
EN: …in the historical continuum…
KK: Right.
EN: …being familiar with it like that.
KK: Yeah. And I’m not going to be afraid, even though I know that you always want to be conscious of the younger audience, too, and you… I’ve tried to appeal to all the demographics, but the history of the game is beautiful. It’s wonderful and so I think, embracing that and working that into the broadcast. You know, Marty Lurie has been a good friend for years…
EN: And the A’s, you know, are 110 years of historical continuum and impact…
KK: Exactly.
EN: …as significant as almost any other team that you could name…
KK: Yeah. Right. And like they were…and when they did "30 Clubs, 30 Days" on MLB network, they went back to the Philadelphia days…
EN: Sure.
KK: So Al Simmons and Jimmy Foxx were two of the… Mickey Cochrane, was part of that. (He and) Lefty Grove, were part of as they… you know they listed the top 9 seasons in A’s history…
EN: Sure.
KK: So they were all part of that.
EN: Okay. Last one, or one and a half more. This is from tnsd11. He says, there’s been a lot of turnover for the Athletics over the years. Who’s the one player that you wish they would have kept and why?
KK: Well, it’s hard to say "one." I mean, I was really, really fond of Miggy. You know, I guess if there’s one player that I really miss it would be Tejada, you know, because he just brought so much energy. You know, I’m fond of him personally. But, you know, I thought Jason Giambi was as good a guy as I’ve ever known… you know, very fond of him personally and it was nice to have him back although it was brief, two years ago. So, you know, I got to know Hudson, Mulder, and Zito very well, all three of them. But… and, you know, people always ask, this is probably not directly related to the question, you know… how disappointed have I been that the A’s have lost a lot of those good players over the years?
EN: Sure.
KK: I look at that differently. Yeah, it would be great to have kept all those guys, but we had a lot of great moments, too. So… not many announcers get to do five postseasons in seven years.
EN: Sure.
KK: Which we had. And all those amazing Game 5s. That was really fun… so, I try to keep things in perspective, that it was great to be able to work in the postseason. But, I really miss Miguel. And I really loved having him on the team.
BC: Was there any… was there any one of those years that you thought, "They’re going to win the World Series this year."?
KK: ’01 to me was by far the best team.
BC: Yeah.
KK: You know, there’s no question for me that ’01 and Jeremy didn’t slide and… you know, that’s been rehashed, you know, a million times.
BC: He was safe, right?
KK: I don’t know.
BC: He wouldn’t have had to slide.
NP: I’ve seen it a million times and I still don’t (unintelligible)…
BC: It’s very hard to tell, yeah.
KK: I remember calling the play. And I remember seeing replays of it, and now I’ve watched the replay a thousand times. I can’t tell.
BC: Yeah. And honestly, you just can’t tell.
KK: Couldn’t tell and my supposition is that if he had slid he would have been called safe. But by not sliding…
BC: It’s what we have.
KK: It’s what we have. But you know it, that game was an amazing game. I know… I know that it was heartbreaking. But that was probably as electric a night as there was at the Coliseum, even though that was a loss. I mean, night game, Mussina, Zito, 1-0, that play… you know, Rivera comes in the 8th, so that was a historic night. Even though it was ultimately very disappointing.
NP?: Jeter’s play was pretty unusual.
KK: Yeah. I mean, it really was…
BC: What’s he even doing standing there?
NP: They practiced it, apparently… I mean, even down to the fact that he flipped it…
KK: Yeah.
NP: Was he safe?
KK: I’ve replayed it in my mind a thousand times. I’ve replayed the call of it a thousand times.
BC: As have we.
KK: Yeah.
EN: He was safe but he should have slid.
KK: Yeah, he should have slid there. But that’s the way it goes, you know. So, ’01 was the best team, I thought. I think most people feel that way.
EN: Yeah. Well, I like to say that ’02, because you shouldn’t win 20 and not win the whole thing.
KK: Right.
EN: But they might have peaked too soon, you know, winning 20.
KK: And (Jason) Giambi was gone, there was…
EN: There’s, you know, a different set of circumstances.
KK: That’s why "Moneyball" was such an interesting book.
EN: But the movie and the book are all about ’02, you know, yeah.
KK: Yeah. Because that was where they had to kind of figure out a different way to do it.
EN: Right. Yeah.
KK: Wound up winning 20 straight.
EN: That’s true. One more would be, FutureEd wants to know what your favorite bookstores are on the road?
KK: Well, I have to tell you this, that I’m really bummed that there’s a Borders down here, and you know, Borders…
EN: They’re going out of business.
KK: And the Borders that I go to, probably four or five times a week down here at Camelback and 24th is going out of business, so I’m crushed by that. You know, I go to a lot of the Borders and Barnes and Nobles… I haven’t found, I should probably search for more of the…
EN: Mom and Pop…
KK: Yeah. Mom and Pop. Locals’ kind of bookstores. But I’m in there a lot. Like the… there’s a wonderful… I don’t even remember if they’re Barnes and Noble or Borders, but there’s one right downtown in Minneapolis that kind of overlooks where everybody walks, which is wonderful. There’s a great… you know, Seattle, most cities, you know… Kansas City. It’s pretty hard not to be in a City where there’s a good bookstore.
EN: Yeah.
KK: Yeah, so, you can find me at ten o’clock in the afternoon…. I mean in the morning, probably…
EN: Yeah.
KK: …either a bookstore or museum, I think probably…
EN: What are your favorite museums to go to?
KK: Well, any of the art museums.
EN: In New York, you go to?
KK: The Met in New York.
EN: The Whitney?
KK: No, I’ve never been to the Whitney. I should go.
EN: You should go. You should to see the (Whitney) Biennial.
KK: Yeah.
EN: You should really try to see that. You’d dig on that.
KK: The Guggenheim in New York. The Museum of Modern Art. The Met. Nelson-Atkins in Kansas City.
EN: So, mostly art… ever go to the Museum of Natural History when you go (to NYC)?
KK: No, but I’ve been to the one in Chicago once.
EN: Yeah.
KK: Which is right next to the Chicago Art Institute. On Michigan Avenue.
EN: Sure.
KK: And then the Boston Museum of Fine Art… Boston Museum of Fine Art in Boston, Boston MFA, which is in the Fens and walking distance to Fenway Park…
EN: Minutes from the stadium.
KK: …is a wonderful place. Seattle…a good modernist museum: SAM, the Seattle Art Museum…
EN: Sure.
KK: …a great spot, so…
BC: What’s the…
KK: Minnesota’s got a good museum.
BC: What’s your favorite city to go to? On the road?
KK: That’s a great question and I’ve been asked it a million times. It all relates to me; it all, it’s all…
BC: All about me.
KK: …so it’s all about, like, the food in the pressroom…
EVERYONE: (laughs)
KK: …and the broadcast booth and how that’s all set up. But I’d probably say Seattle.
BC: Is that your favorite stadium, also?
KK: Yeah. I love the stadium; I love the city. All things considered. I love New York; it’s fabulous, you know, all that is New York, is just...
EN: Sure.
KK: …wonderful for us.
EN: That’s where I grew up.
KK: We take the subway in; that’s great. There aren’t too many cities we don’t, I don’t like.
EN: David Yashar finished out the thread and said that… just tell Ken we hope that we have him for the rest of his career.
KK: I hope so, too.
EN: You are, you know, as valuable and as entertaining and as fantastic an asset and practitioner of the art form in doing what you do that we can think of and we really thank you for sitting down with us.
KK: Well, thank you for having me. I really enjoyed it. It was a lot of fun.
EN: Okay, good questions, good answers, yeah?
KK: Good questions! I liked the format in here a little better, ‘cause out there was so noisy.
EN: Yeah, well, it is a baseball game.
KK: It’s a baseball game, yeah.
NP: I wonder what’s happening?
EN: It’s 14-2!!! in the bottom of the 3rd!!!… no. All right, thank you Ken!
KK: Thank you, guys.
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