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If You Can’t Score In More Than One Inning, You Aren’t Going To Win A Lot of Games

Well, on the bright side, our craptastic offense did manage to string together enough consecutive hits to put a crooked number on the board early, but refused to score, or basically hit, or really do anything else offense-related after that. It’s easy to point to Duchscherer as the difference in the game, as he gave up the tying runs in the eighth, or Street, who coughed up the go-ahead runs in the ninth, but honestly, any time you get one-hit for eight innings, you probably aren’t going to win the game anyway.

After a rough first inning by Buehrle, he didn’t give the A’s much to hit after that. Well, that’s the opinion I’m taking today, but it sure is hard to tell if the opposing pitchers are really good against us, or we really just can’t hit.

The silver lining of the powerless, badly-hitting, un-RISP-y black cloud is Mike Piazza, who continued his torrid start today, collecting another hit in the form of a 2-RBI double in the first; he is now 14-33 in his last eight games. Chavez had a RBI double as well, but after the first inning, the offense quickly slid back in its deep freeze.

It was bound to happen; the pitching just wasn’t there today from the usually-dependable set-up man and closer, which was a shame, since the game started out pretty well. I think Kennedy has been performing a little bit of a Houdini act these last couple of games; I can’t prove it, but I think he’s wiggled out of trouble more on luck than pitching prowess, but with that being said, his line still looked pretty decent: 5 IP, 5 H, 1 ER, 3 BB, 3 K.

And I’ve said it before this early season, but it’s worth repeating; I love Geren’s quick hook. So far this year, he absolutely refuses to let our starting pitchers do irreparable damage, probably because he knows that if we have a one or two run lead early, that’s all we’re going to get; thus we should use each and every resource to try to protect it. I also think he recognizes that at least four members of our bullpen are usually better than three of our five starting pitchers, and this advantage should be exploited whenever possible. With the day off tomorrow, Geren could afford to use up the ‘pen, and he did so in trying to protect a slim lead. Ultimately this failed, but the blame lies with Duchscherer and Street, not Geren.

The good news of the bullpen is that Kiko Calero looks like he’s settling down nicely after his rough couple of early games, and Marshall got himself out of a big-league jam with his secret GIDP pitch in the seventh. Unfortunately, even though Duchscherer struck out the side in the 8th, he also gave up the game-tying homerun to Jermaine Dye, and to say Street was awful in the ninth is the understatement of the week. This falls into Nico’s theory of pitching: The more pitchers you use, the more likely it is that one (or two) will have an off-day, and boy, did they.

Still, last time I checked, the A’s pitching staff is still among the league leaders in ERA, and rightly so; our starters just keep throwing quality start after quality start. It stands to reason that if they keep pitching well, the offense is bound to catch up...right? Right?!

But we all know the real test of our pitching will be the next three games, as the New York Yankees and their big boy offense come into the Coli on Friday night with the intent to do some damage against Haren, Blanton, and Harden. Perhaps our offense can break out against Yankees pitching. It’s worth a shot.

But for now, the best thing the A’s can do is chalk today up to a tough loss, get some rest, and pray that Milton Bradley can play this weekend.

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Refocus

Time for the A's to refocus on the Skanks. Their bats scare me a heck of alot more than the ChiSox. The A's will need to score more than 6 runs in the series if they want to take 2 out of 3.

I am holding out hope that the offense will start performing better. I don't expect the 1927 Yankees, but I think things will improve. If not then it will be a long year.

by RudiFan on Apr 11, 2007 3:18 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we have guys

who are hitting the ball, we're 3rd in the al in basehits.  we just need to mix in some more walks and string some hits together for rallies.  i think this years offense will end up being better than last years.  we need swish and chavez to start putting some balls in the seats though.

by Backspin on Apr 11, 2007 3:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

be nice if any survivors showed up

we could beat em easy.

AN dharma, where suffering is optional.

by ak_A on Apr 11, 2007 11:29 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Especially before an off day

when you really believe the pen is going to hold it!

by Blez on Apr 11, 2007 5:59 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Geesh...

At least this series was Hawk-less.

That, and my 9-month-old son is making sure I don't get so irritated when games like today's happen.  Or at least I don't look like I'm irritated. :)

Second place in gigglingone's NCAA Tournament bracket contest!

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Apr 11, 2007 3:21 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that was fast

did you start writing this in the 2nd inning?

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Apr 11, 2007 3:21 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heh.

Nah, you pretty much saw it coming early in the ninth.

Now we have 6 or 7 months to enjoy, to cheer, cry, and scream both in frustration and happiness. ~china bob

by baseballgirl on Apr 11, 2007 3:24 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There's a difference

Between a bad offense and slumping offense.

by BillyMac on Apr 11, 2007 3:25 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And I think ours is bad?
Now we have 6 or 7 months to enjoy, to cheer, cry, and scream both in frustration and happiness. ~china bob

by baseballgirl on Apr 11, 2007 3:26 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: And I think ours is bad?

Well obviously. Just trying to represent here for those of us who know about basic statistical theory.

by BillyMac on Apr 11, 2007 3:29 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hee! :-)

Got it. I was pleading for them to 'regress to the mean', but I'm afraid they aren't going to get 'hot', mostly because they aren't very good to start with...

Now we have 6 or 7 months to enjoy, to cheer, cry, and scream both in frustration and happiness. ~china bob

by baseballgirl on Apr 11, 2007 3:57 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That would be

"Progress to the mean," actually.

The A's success should surprise no one. They're a much better team than people give them credit for. -- Joe Morgan

by BubbaDude on Apr 11, 2007 4:00 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It won't be this bad

(2 HR total in 10 games) but it will continue to be the problem.

In the stands the home crowd scatters For the turnstiles

by andeux on Apr 11, 2007 3:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not

that big of a problem though. We'll wind up around the same place as last year I think in both runs and HRs.

by mikeA on Apr 11, 2007 4:11 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't think the offense is this bad,

but I don't think they're that much better then this.

"Very nice day in the Oakland A... Oakland A's? What's this stadium called again?" Nick Swisher on TWIB.

by larrysgurl on Apr 11, 2007 3:27 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

um...
Go Sharks!
"San Jose A's of Fremont" is already being mocked by Angel's fans

by ArakSOT on Apr 11, 2007 3:25 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Street / Duke / Stewart

Geren's "Quick Hook" is going to cost the bullpen down the road (if not already).  Kennedy was not in trouble when they yanked him in the 6th.  Maybe Geren is falling in love with the bullpen (I don't blame him).

  • Street can't pitch back-to-back games.  Either that, or he's hurt.  He hit 90 MPH maybe once today.  He shook off Kendall more than once (no confidence in his fastball).  Kendall visited twice.  Curt Young once.  Bob Geren once.  The velocity was not there.  Doesn't anyone notice that in the dugout or bullpen session???
  • Duke can't go back-to-back, either.  He did not have his stuff today.
  • Shannon Stewart is not a good left fielder.  The sac-fly was about 75 feet away from the infield grass, and it wasn't even close at home.  The ball hit by Konerko would have been caught by 75% of leftfielders.

Not a good day for the A's.

by Colorado Fan on Apr 11, 2007 3:30 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Street can go back-to-back

But it might be early for him to follow a night game with a day game.

Yep. Warm and fuzzy... that's me.

by grover on Apr 11, 2007 3:33 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It only gets more difficult

as the season wears on.  If Street wasn't hitting 90 this early in the season, that's a concern.  Velocity tends to go down, not up, as the season wears on.

by IndianaAsfan on Apr 11, 2007 5:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I need to double check

But I'm pretty sure Street was hitting 90+ last night. I'm questioning if he's ready for the sub-24 hour turnaround he faced today.

Yep. Warm and fuzzy... that's me.

by grover on Apr 11, 2007 5:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't agree
Duke's cutter (which wasn't cutting as much as usual) was in the 81-82 range.  That doesn't seem normal to me.

I understand that Street and Duke aren't going to be 100% every night.  But, it seems like this is something that has been a problem for both of them.   They have both struggled in the past with the back-to-back thing.

Duke shouldn't be going Night/Day Back to Back, yet. If ever.  IMO

by Colorado Fan on Apr 11, 2007 3:40 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think

Street's struggles in the past had more to do with going multiple innings during an outing, or when he was on the third or fourth game in a row.

by IndianaAsfan on Apr 11, 2007 5:36 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am not happy

with what I have seen from Stewart.

Our outfield arms don't seem to great.

I miss seeing Kotsay's dead aim from center.

"I can't wait for tommorrow, cause I get so much cooler every day" - shirt worn by Swish

by Bigtoe on Apr 11, 2007 3:40 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Street only threw 7 pitches last nite

.. he wasn't tired today, he just had an "off" outing today .. didn't have his best stuff - simple as that! ;-)

.. the Athletics may be small-market but they have BIG-heart! ..

by Randy Bell on Apr 11, 2007 5:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

By My Count

If I counted correctly, the A's have had 39 HITLESS innings (batting) so far this year. That's 3.9 hitless innings per game.  That's almost half.

The trend has worsened in the last 3 games against the 'Sox. In those 3 games, we have gone hitless in 17 of 27 innings. That is a recipe for losing unless you are putting up some crooked numbers  in the other frames.

Oakland has played games on 10 straight days, ending with today's loss. Hopefully, the day off tomorrow and again on Monday will help the bats.

by Athletic Supporter on Apr 11, 2007 3:32 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hard To Watch

I love the A's, but a summer of watching a lineup of Stewart, Kendall, Walker, Ellis, Scutaro and Kielty gives me chills.  I would cut bait on Stewart very quickly and get some more SLG% into the lineup via 1st base.  Maybe DJ or even a Stokes would help this anemic offense.

by DKNJ on Apr 11, 2007 3:37 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

shannon stewart

is a good hitter.   if he's healthy he will produce for us.  remember he missed almost all of last year.  it took thomas about 100 abs last year to find his groove.  now obviously stewart isn't the same caliber as thomas, but we need to give him another 50-75 abs before seriously considering a swap.

by Backspin on Apr 11, 2007 3:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just got back from the game things I noticed:
  1. Shannon Stewart's arm is weak, VERY WEAK. The Erstad sac fly was maybe 40ft onto the outfield grass. I didn't think the Sox's were going to send Uribe, tells you what they think of Stewart's arm.
  1. I think Geren should have kept Duke in for another inning, even though he gave up the game tying HR, he still looked good in the 8th.
  1. THE DELAY ON THE RADIO SUCKS!

by Khmi on Apr 11, 2007 3:39 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

where are the HRs

We need a few more walks and some power.

Our "table setters" can't get on base.  The our big boys are getting hits and walks.  Then the bottom of the order has to hit them in and usually fails (with a few exceptions).

We need to get some guys on base in front of Chavy and Piazza.  (I liked the lineup today).

And those two and Swish need to start hitting a couple over the fence.

"I can't wait for tommorrow, cause I get so much cooler every day" - shirt worn by Swish

by Bigtoe on Apr 11, 2007 3:39 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ENOUGH WITH THE "WE'RE 3RD IN BASEHITS!"

ENTERING THE GAME (THATS WITH OUT EVEN INCLUDING THIS ONE) WE WERE ALSO 7TH IN BATTING AVERAGE, 8TH IN ON BASE PCT, 12TH IN SLUGGING, 12TH IN OPS AND 12TH IN RUNS! AND WITH THIS GAME, WE'LL BE 13TH IN RUNS AND LIKELY LAST IN RUNS PER GAME!

We need to fix our offense, and small sample size be damned, there are several guys in this lineup that won't hit regardless. We know that from career totals.

Kendall and Stewart will not hit, yet they continue to play everyday and Kendall only now has been moved down in the lineup.

Crosby still needs to learn how to hit. And Scutaro is not as good a hitter as people seem to deem him.

Ellis and Buck are not to be counted on, virtue of Ellis being a light hitting 2B and Buck being a rookie.

The rest of the lineup, Chavy, Bradley, Piazza and Swisher, are our only real hitters. And we know that with how streaky Bradley, Chavez and Swisher are, Piazza is our only hope for a steady hitter.

All projections have us being at best a .500 team, and that was with our pitching doing worse and our offense doing better. Well, they're canceling each other out, but I think if our pitching stays the same we could be very good, BUT NOT WITH THIS OFFENSE!

If we can't for any offense, we might as well give the job to some of the prospects and hope they can do a better one. I know that Suzuki can outhit Kendall regardless, and that Barton can likewise probably hit better than .200 for Stewart. We already bunped Buck up, Suzuki and Barton should be able to handle it (especially Barton) with the way they're hitting in AAA and ST.

I said it before and I will say it again. With the way this offense is right now, I would not be supprised if we were no hit by Jeff Weaver.

/rant

by Zonis on Apr 11, 2007 3:44 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kendall and Steeart "will not hit"??

They have their whole careers.  Now maybe they are done and they won;t be good again, but how about giving them more than 10 fucking games before we determmine that "will not hit".  Think Pujols, Adam Laroche and Michael Young "will not hit" either?  My god, it's 10 games, relax!  Let's see what happens for a while before we make broad ridicuslous statement.

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Apr 11, 2007 3:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i think you're jumping the gun.

kendall hit 297 last year with the 2nd or 3rd best obp on the team.  he won't hit for power, but he can hit.  stewart is a career 300 hitter or close to it.  he can hit and he will if he stays healthy.  he needs to some more abs.

crosby, ellis and scotter i agree, they really don't give you too much offensively.  buck is taking great abs, just not making enough contact, but he's almost making up for it with the walks.  he could be a keeper.  

by Backspin on Apr 11, 2007 3:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree with you

It's only been ten games! Let's all chill out and see what happens the next month. The offense will wake up sooner then later. NO need to panic. Haven't we all been here before with this team say the last 5 years or so with the slow so so offense starts? Why should this year be any different, no?

by A'sfansince1970 on Apr 11, 2007 4:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't believe I agree with you

...but you're spot on with your comments. BTW is that the flaming A's or the flameout A's for your symbol? THe sad part is that Kendall and Stewart are probably going nowhere. I would love to see Suzuki and Barton hone their skills now. Rhetorically, it would not be giving up on the season, rather their offense may save it.

"I've been accused of using too many words...I suppose that's like accusing Mozart of using too many notes." Bill King

by Gerard on Apr 11, 2007 4:07 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Comparison

last 3 years splits via ESPN, with our RF playing CF
(Bold = Above Average, Underline = Below Average)
Our Lineup:
C1 Kendall: .295/.370/<ins>.351</ins>/<ins>.721</ins>
1B Swisher: <ins>.246</ins>/<ins>.350</ins>/<ins>.468</ins>/<ins>.818</ins>
2B Ellis: .282/.351/.431/.782
3B Chavez: <ins>.262</ins>/.357/.467/.824
SS Crosby: <ins>.246</ins>/<ins>.320</ins>/.409/<ins>.729</ins>
LF Stewart: .287/<ins>.347</ins>/<ins>.405</ins>/<ins>.752</ins>
RF Buck: ---------------------
CF Bradley: .276/.362/.446/.808
DH Piazza: .267/.344/.465/.809

In comparison (Courtasy of Brew Crew Ball), here are the 2006 League Averages by position for the MLB (this is not just the AL).
C1: .269/.329/.416/.745
1B: .285/.363/.489/.851
2B: .276/.334/.410/.744
3B: .276/.347/.458/.805
SS: .275/.332/.408/.740
LF: .278/.354/.464/.818
CF: .269/.335/.427/.761
RF: .277/.347/.460/.807
DH: .263/.347/.463/.811

So we are below average at Catcher, First Base (believe it or not), Shortstop, Left Field and Right Field. We are average at Designated Hitter, and above average at Second Base, Third Base and Centerfield (with our Right Fielder in Center, who would qualify as average if in Right).

Now, personally, when I look at that, I think we can easily upgrade LF and Catcher.

by Zonis on Apr 11, 2007 4:17 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Without even making a trade

We can for sure upgrade C and LF - just play the guys on the bench.

The A's success should surprise no one. They're a much better team than people give them credit for. -- Joe Morgan

by BubbaDude on Apr 11, 2007 4:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We're above average at second

yet you claim Ellis isn't to be counted on.  Did I miss something?

by IndianaAsfan on Apr 11, 2007 5:40 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you want us to rely on 2nd Base

for our offensive production? There is a reason why we're above average at 2nd Base. Second Base isn't a big offensive position to begin with. Neither is SS, actually.

by Zonis on Apr 11, 2007 6:05 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well

I think we need to worry about the below average guys before we start calling out the above average guys.

by IndianaAsfan on Apr 11, 2007 7:23 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think you're over-reacting.

The offense will do better as is.

Of course, by that time the pitching will have slipped.

Yep. Warm and fuzzy... that's me.

by grover on Apr 11, 2007 4:29 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Our sub-.300 hitters

You know who you are, boys:

Chavez
Buck
Swisher
Bradley
Ellis
Crosby
Stewart
Kendall
Scutaro

So crank it up a notch now, don't wait for May (or June, July, etc.) These games count as much as the ones on September.

The A's success should surprise no one. They're a much better team than people give them credit for. -- Joe Morgan

by BubbaDude on Apr 11, 2007 3:51 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Our decent hitters

Walker
Kielty
Piazza
Melhuse

Keep them other guys away from these dudes unless they get infected or something.

The A's success should surprise no one. They're a much better team than people give them credit for. -- Joe Morgan

by BubbaDude on Apr 11, 2007 4:01 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Milton Bradley

I haven't heard anything, but is he OK?  It didn't look good last night.

by Colorado Fan on Apr 11, 2007 4:02 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Offense Trade Ideas?

Maybe we could make a trade offer to a team with a crowded outfield like tampa for gomes or chicago for murton or milwaukee for mench or jenkins...

by johnjahafanclub on Apr 11, 2007 4:19 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tampa Bay needs pitching

especially in the bullpen.

And thats exactly what we have a lot of at the moment.

by Zonis on Apr 11, 2007 4:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tampa Bay

The have a reputation for asking for the WORLD.  I'm sure they'll want Harden or Haren to be part of the equation.  Not really, but you know what I mean.

Bill Stoneman & Tampa Bay GM have a lot in common...and that's a good thing for us.

by Colorado Fan on Apr 11, 2007 4:23 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Gomes is over-rated

He's not that good of a hitter and he can't play defense. That said, he's only had 6 AB thus far including 1 start. It's conceivable that Tampa would be more agreeable to dealing him at this time.

Yep. Warm and fuzzy... that's me.

by grover on Apr 11, 2007 5:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But
Do we really want Gomes?  He's not starting for TB.  

Gomes doesn't help this team.  

by Colorado Fan on Apr 12, 2007 8:52 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't want Gomes at all

I'm merely providing information.

Yep. Warm and fuzzy... that's me.

by grover on Apr 12, 2007 12:37 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ERA

anyone have a guess of what our Starter ERA's are at this point?  Haren/Blanton/Harden/Gaudin/Kennedy.

It's gotta be about 1.50 ERA (give or take) - How do you go 4-6 with Starters ERA's being 1.50?  Bad defense & Bad hitting is how.

by Colorado Fan on Apr 11, 2007 4:26 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

REALLY bad hitting
Now we have 6 or 7 months to enjoy, to cheer, cry, and scream both in frustration and happiness. ~china bob

by baseballgirl on Apr 11, 2007 4:37 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I choose to have faith in our A's.

Come on, folks, send good thoughts to our guys. I'm sure they're just as frustrated. I hear all this negativity.  Mom always said, "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."

by LilAnnieOaktown on Apr 11, 2007 4:45 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

back from the game

Appalled by the quality (if it could be called that)of the at-bats after the first inning. Spring after spring, series after series, game after game, many of our guys look just flat, weak, uninterested and seem unable to even threaten to hit the baseball with any authority.  Swisher in particular swings so hard he seems to want to hit a 6-run HR with no one on base every time up.  He's an easy out right now, as are several others, and pitchers can't be feeling very taxed or apprehensive facing these guys.

I don't understand, it makes me want to call for Van Burkleo's head but it isn't him up there with the wood in his hands.  All the past hitting coaches did no better, to be honest.  Is it just the usual April for us?  Why is that, why do we suck so horrifically early in the year?  Do these hitters toke the bong back at the pad in El Cerrito after the game?  It's just beyond comprehension, how it can be this bad this consistently, for so long.

On the bright side Mike P is taking to DH'ing like a duck to water, and he seems immune to the malaise that's afflicting so many others.  I just pray that Milton can play this weekend, lest we fall 17 games behind before June comes.

Goddammit, this is such a frustrating team sometimes, it's toxic.  Even last night, we won but it took years off my life.  

Ugh.

LET'S go OAKland!!!!

by emperor nobody on Apr 11, 2007 4:48 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

can we agree that shannon stewart

should not be playing LF everyday?

by fadedash on Apr 11, 2007 4:49 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

Or at least be taken out for a defensive replacement in the later innings - OK I really like that idea - I mean, he makes Johnny Damon look like Ichiro with that d--k arm of his out there.

by SD Erik on Apr 11, 2007 4:58 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It could get worse, barely

A's scored 28 runs in 10 games so far in April. Compared to last 3 years 04-06, this is about as bad as they can get. They scored 35 runs in 13 games from 8/9-23 in 05, including the worst 10 game span 24 runs from 8/12-23. But then they really bounced back, scoring in double digits in 5 of the next 6 games, and 71 runs in 10 games. If history holds, I think they will start bouncing back in 2-3 games. I desperately hope...

by asfansince1989 on Apr 11, 2007 5:00 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe it's not so bad

As King Felix is absolutely dominating the Red Sox right now too... He's got a No-Hitter through 5, and nothing has been hit hard, except Manny hit one up the middle that ricocheted off his leg in the 2nd, and that was the hardest hit ball so far.

The funny thing is - the only guy to touch him up so far is the One and Only Mr. Travis Buck

by SD Erik on Apr 11, 2007 5:35 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As an aside

Seattle is touching up Daisuke a bit in his home opener - they have been hitting the ball hard all night long off of him...

by SD Erik on Apr 11, 2007 5:37 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe Jojima gave them some tips?
"The future's like, who cares?" ~Eric Chavez

by rebus on Apr 11, 2007 5:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

shhh

Some people are superstitious. But he is still ... pitching well ... through 6.

On the other end of the Spectrum, Oliver Perez allowed a single followed by 4 straight walks and a HBP with 2 outs in the third. Who says you need to swing the bat to score runs? Maybe the A's will get to face him in interleague.

In the stands the home crowd scatters For the turnstiles

by andeux on Apr 11, 2007 5:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

make that SIX innings for mr. king felix

As King Felix is absolutely dominating the Red Sox right now too... He's got a No-Hitter through 5, and nothing has been hit hard, except Manny hit one up the middle that ricocheted off his leg in the 2nd, and that was the hardest hit ball so far.

Maybe Danny Haren shouldn't feel too bad about our season opener in seattle?

.. the Athletics may be small-market but they have BIG-heart! ..

by Randy Bell on Apr 11, 2007 5:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay, seriously....

...stop saying it! He's pitching **very well**.

Now we have 6 or 7 months to enjoy, to cheer, cry, and scream both in frustration and happiness. ~china bob

by baseballgirl on Apr 11, 2007 5:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn't hear anything

Just enjoying a well pitched game in Boston.

by mikeA on Apr 11, 2007 5:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If the A's offnese doesn't improve

the Yankees will sweep

www.GamingDomination.com

by 3Chavy3 on Apr 11, 2007 5:52 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Disagree: Yankees pitching is a big ?? right now

.. maybe we can get well off their pitching ..

.. the Athletics may be small-market but they have BIG-heart! ..

by Randy Bell on Apr 11, 2007 5:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

even Mussina just tweaked something

.. Wang is already on the DL ..

.. the Athletics may be small-market but they have BIG-heart! ..

by Randy Bell on Apr 11, 2007 6:06 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So was the White Sox

before this series.

by IndianaAsfan on Apr 11, 2007 7:24 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No it wasn't - you missed my point

The Yankees had to start Carl Pavano on opening day for pete's sakes.  Wang is on the DL, Mussina just tweaked something yesterday.  We have some good pitching matchups against the Yanks because of their injuries.

Chicago put three of their best out there against us: Contreras, Garland, Buehrle -- none of them are injured, obviously - they pitched well -- the fact that Contreras had a shaky first outing in 2007 means nothing, did you not watch these guys in the 2005 W.S.?  They happen to be pretty darn good, and they pitched well against us.  The fact they had a "down" year last year means nothing for this year, these are good pitchers.

Take Care,
Warmly, Ran

.. the Athletics may be small-market but they have BIG-heart! ..

by Randy Bell on Apr 12, 2007 6:40 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Forgot to Say

.. of course we were going to miss Mussina anyway because of his order in the rotation.  I don't wish folks (any athletes) to get hurt but I'm not shedding tears for the Yankees as a team, heck no ... it doesn't break my heart that we will miss Godzilla in the lineup either .. I wonder if Damon will be playing?

I'm just suggesting maybe we can "get well" off less than the Yankees' best pitching. Stranger things have happened.  Chicago did not give us their "2nd-best" - Contreras, Garland, Buehrle -- those are quality starters.

We'll see, keep your chin up! :)

.. the Athletics may be small-market but they have BIG-heart! ..

by Randy Bell on Apr 12, 2007 6:45 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Felix still pitching well...

...going to the eighth.

Now we have 6 or 7 months to enjoy, to cheer, cry, and scream both in frustration and happiness. ~china bob

by baseballgirl on Apr 11, 2007 6:03 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

By the way

I know it sounds ridiculous to say it, but I think Swisher should've caught Dye's home run.  It just barely made it over the wall and I do believe if the A's had Bradley or Kotsay playing center, it would've been caught.  An outfielder who got a read on it would've been able to get back there and do a little bunny hop and grab it from over the wall.

I also think Stewart should've caught the double and his throw home on the sac fly was ridiculously bad.

by Blez on Apr 11, 2007 6:09 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're right, that was ridiculous

Maybe one of Bradley or Kotsay could have made the catch if either was healthy enough to play. Since Swisher is, at best, the 3rd choice to play CF it seems rather petty to nitpick his defense at the position.

Yep. Warm and fuzzy... that's me.

by grover on Apr 11, 2007 6:19 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So know you're implying that Swish had something

to do with Kotsay and Bradley getting hurt?!?!

What is this, EiO?

;)

Yep. Warm and fuzzy... that's me.

by grover on Apr 11, 2007 6:28 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was at the game

Sitting in first row of outfield seats in RF so I had a sideways angle.  No outfielder could have caught the Dye HR ball.

by Soaker on Apr 11, 2007 6:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe if Swish was ten foot tall? {grin}

I was at the game too, sitting at field level on the first base side in shallow right -- at the time I surely thought it was a goner and nobody was gonna keep it in the park.  Forgive me if I got this wrong, but I thought someone else here suggested Konerko's double should have been caught?  Folks this isn't Smallville, we don't have meteor-freaks out in our outfield - you know, the Flash, Aquaman, Superboy, etc.  j/k j/k

.. the Athletics may be small-market but they have BIG-heart! ..

by Randy Bell on Apr 12, 2007 6:50 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This felt

a bit like last year's loss against the Tigers at home where the A's had scored 3 runs in the first but after that got nothing. Anyways, this wasn't a terrible loss but eventually tolls on pitchers catch up to you.

"Talk about impressive. My point is this: Break's over."- Josiah Bartlet

by doublehustle22 on Apr 11, 2007 6:29 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

re "Love the quick hook"--

it's a double-edged sword. Thankfully, we don't have to endure as many tired starters giving up 3-run HRs and THEN being yanked. But we may have paid for last night's win with today's loss, as yesterday Duke and Street worked in a game we were trailing, then pitched again just 17 hours later. It's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" conundrum for a manager, very difficult to finesse.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Apr 11, 2007 7:09 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Having Gaudin and Kennedy back to back...

...is going to kill a bullpen when you have two tight games in a row.  They only got 32 outs between them, so you are asking the bullpen to get 22 outs in tough situations.  Asking for anything above maybe 15 outs from the pen is really too much.

by Soaker on Apr 11, 2007 7:16 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here's a question ol' buddy ol' pal

Why didn't Duke pitch the 9th? Is he not longer able/not ready after an abreviated ST to go two innings?

Yep. Warm and fuzzy... that's me.

by grover on Apr 11, 2007 7:17 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't think Duke could go 2 IP

after pitching the night before, but I'm just speculating. Definitely don't want to push him, though--better to lose a game than to lose a Duke.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Apr 11, 2007 8:07 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Excuse me, I was talking about last night

Duke didn't pitch on April 9th, so why didn't he pitch 2 innings on the 10th?

Yep. Warm and fuzzy... that's me.

by grover on Apr 11, 2007 9:28 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, I don't know--

If he had, Street could have pitched 2 innings today. That goes with my theory that it's easier to find one pitcher (if he's already pitching well) to pitch well for a couple innings than it is to find two guys to pitch well the same day. Though if I have to try to find two, I'll take Duke and Street any time. Realistically, any day both Duke and Street fail you just kind of have to wonder if it wasn't your day to win. But I do believe yesterday's choice of pitchers (which worked out great) is relevant to today--at least to the extent of raising the question.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Apr 11, 2007 10:06 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Witasick

Has Geren lost ALL confidence in Witasick already?  He has 100% more confidence in Jay Marshall, for crying out loud.  Single A-Ball pitcher is getting more action than Jay Witasick.  Does anyone find this funny?

by Colorado Fan on Apr 12, 2007 8:59 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DiNardo hasn't pitched much either

.. maybe Geren doesn't feel comfortable putting those guys in when the game is on the line? .. or maybe we'll see them in later, in the Yankees series .. I can't say I blame Geren if he has little confidence in Witasick, as Jay_W just doesn't seem to get the job done lately {or last year either, although I know he was hurt most of last year}.  Witasick throws hard but doesn't seem to be fooling any hitters.

.. the Athletics may be small-market but they have BIG-heart! ..

by Randy Bell on Apr 12, 2007 9:08 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they can send DiNardo down

without losing him...not so with Marshall. In fact, i bet that's what happens when DJ comes off the DL

by OaklandSi on Apr 12, 2007 3:32 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Quick hook will work better

When the bullpen is at its planned strength level, with either Kennedy or this year's Chad to log some innings.  Actually, the upcoming off days and resulting skipped 5th starter slots may give us a chance to see how said plan works out.

"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." --Dr. Johnson

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Apr 11, 2007 8:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So if the pitching is great and the offense ...

is atrocious... what happens when the pitching is horrible? The offense should be great right?

This team makes no sense at all.

Argh! Angels beat A's killer Westbrook. King Felix reigns over the league with an ERA of zero. Michael Young hit as many HRs in tonite's game as the A's offense has this entire year!!!!

Where the hell is the power?!

With the Oakland A's, the intravenous drip is always half full!

by OaktownRajah on Apr 11, 2007 7:21 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't wait till May when...

the pitching and the offense will fold. It's gonna be beautiful!

With the Oakland A's, the intravenous drip is always half full!

by OaktownRajah on Apr 11, 2007 7:23 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Offense.

Yes it's early. Yes they'll get better. But there is no excuse for the way they've been going about their business lately. I'd be less concerned if they were striking out 27 times/game, but the quality of the ABs in pressure situations is just downright scary. Last night's fiasco after the Buck triple is the epitome of what our offense has done so far this season.

All Ellis/Kendall have to do is hit a medium deep fly ball, certainly not asking much from a MLB player. Just a lazy fly ball that the fleet of feet Buck could score on, but instead of being aggressive and looking for a pitch they can drive, they let fat breaking balls float across the middle of the plate and eventually end up grounding back to the pitcher on fastballs low in the zone.

The fact that they have the wrong approach CONSTANTLY is a scary trend that has shown 0 chance of ending soon. While the Angels are able to turn strong outings by their rotation into victories, we are left in the dust in the division.

Here's to wanting our players so start getting pissed at what's happening and to really own up to the fact that they look like a little league team right now. Because right now, I see 0 fire in the way that they're all playing right now.

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin, Seattle Mariners

by Helloooo 1st on Apr 11, 2007 7:51 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Grammar goes to hell when you type angrily.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin, Seattle Mariners

by Helloooo 1st on Apr 11, 2007 7:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have to say, what was especially irritating

in Tuesday night's game was, after Buck's triple, watching Ellis swing at a 3-1 pitch that completely tied him up (on 3-1, you swing if it's YOUR pitch), then watching Kendall take a 3-1 pitch right over the plate, a perfect pitch to drive to the outfield, then watching Kendall tap back to the mound on a much tougher pitch.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Apr 11, 2007 8:06 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's pretty obvious to me

Guys are gripping.  Putting too much pressure on themselves to get the man in from 3rd w/ less than 2 outs, instead of trying to hit the ball hard where the pitch is thrown.  Duh.

by Colorado Fan on Apr 12, 2007 9:01 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank you

you said what I was thinking.  Only you did it using much more appropriate language.

by IndianaAsfan on Apr 12, 2007 7:00 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's hope the offense gets it figured out

before the pitching starts to fade. Let's go boys! Kick some Yankee butt!

by A'sfansince1970 on Apr 11, 2007 11:35 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have no quibble with the pitching

starters and relievers, they've done their job. I certainly don't expect them to be perfect...and pitching when the offense is so scanty certainly puts much more pressure on the pitchers.

by OaklandSi on Apr 12, 2007 8:35 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Street's pitches on the outside corner

Seems to me like things went downhill after the ump called those two strikes on the outside corner balls.  I think that got into Street's head.  He could not throw a strike after that.  Then he got to the point where he had to throw strikes.

I would have liked to have seen Duke stay in.  The hr by Dye was just a tough break...the ball just seemed to keep carrying.

Of course this is really easy to say in hindsight.

by easyraider on Apr 12, 2007 2:58 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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