Open Thread: Spring Training Game 13
Is number 13 the lucky one for Joe Kennedy? You know, the spring training where his ERA stops climbing towards triple digits and starts heading south? Kennedy and his A's mates travel to Peoria to take on the Seattle Mariners.
Sports psychology is extremely interesting to me. The fact that many people speculate that a guy always steps up his game when he is entering a contract year is one of those long held beliefs that I tend to think is true. So it wasn't surprising to hear Billy Beane and Bob Geren both basically saying that Joe Kennedy pretty much had the fifth spot in the rotation nailed down before camp ever opened in Arizona. Kennedy is likely in his last season with the A's and about to hit unrestricted free agency. The dollar signs are dancing around in Kennedy's head as we speak.
At the same time, I also think there's another aspect to sports psychology that could be coming into play with Kennedy's horrific spring. He should've probably been led to believe that he is in a dogfight between Jason Windor, Brad Halsey and Shane Komine for the fifth spot in the rotation. Athletes, given the nature of what they do for their profession, often perform their best when they hear the knocks of youth at their financially secure door. Competitive nature takes over and you get that extra ounce of focus and concentration that can make the difference between a Kennedy who is painting the corners with his fastball and slider and the one who is hanging sliders and serving up meatball fastballs.
The bottom line is that I know that spring training means nothing and that once Kennedy gets into the regular season and sees that huge green light of cash at the end of the tunnel, he will probably turn it on a notch. But I still think it would've been good if he felt the hot breath of youth on his neck. Windsor hasn't really provided that for Kennedy. Neither has Halsey. Komine had a good start yesterday, but that's the first time that any of the potential number five pitchers has really done anything good. If Kennedy continues to struggle, the chances are that he will still wind up with the fifth spot simply because none of the other potential competitors have shown anything to make Geren, Beane and company to think otherwise. And the fact remains that I still think that once the regular season hits, you will likely see a different Kennedy for the above-mentioned reasons. Hey, it's human nature.
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I agree with what you're saying, but...
what's the significance of the number 13, exactly?
by FoolshGame22 on Mar 12, 2007 11:20 AM PDT 0 recs
ahhhh... I didn't think Kennedy was old enough..
to have attended 13 Spring Trainings (even though he's looking like Todd Van Poppel this Spring).
by FoolshGame22 on
Mar 12, 2007 11:42 AM PDT
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Gameday
by Threepwood XX on
Mar 12, 2007 1:19 PM PDT
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ESPN the Magazine studied the contract-year thing
in its most recent issue. I don't remember all the details of the little study, but I think they determined that it was pretty much a myth. The whole study seemed off, though. They admitted that there was a small sample size and several outliers. Thank you, Adrian Beltre.
by TurnTwo on Mar 12, 2007 11:39 AM PDT 0 recs
FJM touched on this recently
They said a Princeton study indicated "contract year" spikes in performance were illusory, but that a Baseball Prospectus study suggested a ~10% jump in performance among "prominent free agents" over the last 30 years. I think BP's methodology is suspect though; if an otherwise non-prominent guy suddenly overperforms in his contract year, wouldn't he suddenly become "prominent" and get his spike included on the list? And if an otherwise reasonably-prominent guy flops in his contract year, might he not plummet right of their "prominence" list and get his negative spike excluded?
by Loon from Left on
Mar 12, 2007 11:58 AM PDT
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Argh...here we go again!
by baseballgirl on Mar 12, 2007 11:43 AM PDT 0 recs
Dang time change!
I now have to go to class instead of being able to listen to the game at 12.
I guess it wouldn't be a bad idear to miss this one.
Kennedy vs Felix or President vs King?
by Oaktownmagical07 on Mar 12, 2007 11:49 AM PDT 0 recs
Whatever his thinking and motivation ..
.. I hope Joe_K steps it up come start of regular season .. we need him, or somebody, to give us decent outings in the fifth starting spot ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 12:37 PM PDT 0 recs
during my one diamond level game
Kennedy was the starter (second half 2005 season). I took advantage of the great seats to watch him closely. His pitching style (aiming to zip into the lower corners, mostly) was effective the first and part of the second time through the lineup. After that, however, his pitches flattened out and were very hittable. (The A's lost that game, lost the lead and couldn't get it back; however, Kotsay's two errors in that game were also a factor.)
As a reliever he has seemed to be much more effective. Of course,I realize that I'm just judging him based on that one game.
by OaklandSi on Mar 12, 2007 12:39 PM PDT 0 recs
You're not far off ..
.. Kennedy's performance as spot-starter in place of Rich Harden, in August-Sept of '05, wasn't too good ..
by Randy Bell on
Mar 12, 2007 12:44 PM PDT
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After one time through the batting order
as I recall from his Tampa Bay DRays days, he generally faultered. I used to enjoy watching the games when he was pitching against the Athletics, because (it seemed) just like clockwork, 3rd to 6th inning, the A's would get a crooked number up on the board.
I like him only as a reliever
by One won lost won on
Mar 12, 2007 1:01 PM PDT
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Let's not say ST stats mean nothing
because if they did mean nothing, jobs would not be won/lost based on them.
And I don't know about the rest of you, but if Kennedy is sporting an ERA over 20.00 at the end of spring training, I would have him on a very short leash to start the season.
by fadedash on Mar 12, 2007 12:44 PM PDT 0 recs
Agreed because we cannot afford ..
.. to fall something like 10 or 15 under at the end of May, like we did in '05 -- just makes the rest of the season an uphill climb.
by Randy Bell on
Mar 12, 2007 12:46 PM PDT
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Wow.
Did that radio commercial announcer really just pronounce "Thome" the way it's spelled? Like it rhymes with "home"?
by Poppy on Mar 12, 2007 1:02 PM PDT 0 recs
is this game on Bay Area radio?
and if so, is it supposed to be on 1550 AM or only on the new FM station (can't remember the number, help appreciated)?
I just turned on 1550 but the game isn't on.
thanks!
by OaklandSi on Mar 12, 2007 1:06 PM PDT 0 recs
it's on MLB Audio
by Randy Bell on
Mar 12, 2007 1:07 PM PDT
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thanks, Randy, Poppy, others
I guess I'll just have to follow the game thread and Gameday...
by OaklandSi on
Mar 12, 2007 1:17 PM PDT
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No, just the MLB webcast...
by Poppy on
Mar 12, 2007 1:08 PM PDT
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seattle has their 'A' team in there ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 1:06 PM PDT 0 recs
stop hitting our players!
by baseballgirl on Mar 12, 2007 1:08 PM PDT 0 recs
mlb radio link?
this one is on mlb radio, and I'm a subscriber, but I've been noodling around mlb.com trying to find the game link, and no f--ing luck. anyone have a direct link - i'm also on hold with mlb currently, I bet AN responds faster
by giambizombie on Mar 12, 2007 1:08 PM PDT 0 recs
I bet you're right.
Go to http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/scoreboard/20... and click the "audio" link that's above our scoreboard.
by Poppy on
Mar 12, 2007 1:09 PM PDT
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here
http://mlb.mlb.com/mediacenter/index...
by baseballgirl on
Mar 12, 2007 1:09 PM PDT
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go here
http://mlb.mlb.com/mediacenter/index...
by Randy Bell on
Mar 12, 2007 1:10 PM PDT
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thanks for the help friends
you were far faster than mlb on the phone - i just hung up - though I almost stayed on hold so i could complain
by giambizombie on
Mar 12, 2007 1:12 PM PDT
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nevermind
i finally went thru a few backdoors and found it
mlb.com is such a lousy site, really, really lousy -
by giambizombie on
Mar 12, 2007 1:11 PM PDT
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XMers
it's on Ch. 178 as scheduled! Huzzah!
by ArakSOT on Mar 12, 2007 1:09 PM PDT 0 recs
hehe ..
by Randy Bell on
Mar 12, 2007 1:12 PM PDT
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But how are his obliques?
by Poppy on
Mar 12, 2007 1:12 PM PDT
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Hmmm...not good for Bocachica Wow Wow
by baseballgirl on Mar 12, 2007 1:13 PM PDT 0 recs
Do we know the lineups?
I think I missed it if Buan said it...
by Poppy on Mar 12, 2007 1:13 PM PDT 0 recs
Not it.
Doing (bad) data entry (badly).
by Poppy on
Mar 12, 2007 1:15 PM PDT
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rbi single from jose vidro, 1-0 seattle
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 1:16 PM PDT 0 recs
What the Hell is Kennedy throwing, The A's are
down 2-0 already
by theblackpearl on Mar 12, 2007 1:17 PM PDT 0 recs
sexson rbi single 2-0 seattle
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 1:17 PM PDT 0 recs
Kennedy SUCKS!!!!
by baseballgirl on Mar 12, 2007 1:17 PM PDT 0 recs
Come on.
47.98 ERAs are underrated.
by Poppy on
Mar 12, 2007 1:18 PM PDT
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ST means nothing?
kennedy sure is doing a good job of throwing nothing.
2-0 m's, 2 men on, 0 outs
by fadedash on Mar 12, 2007 1:17 PM PDT 0 recs
I can do a little PXP, if you want...
by baseballgirl on Mar 12, 2007 1:17 PM PDT 0 recs
johjima retired, 2-0 seattle after one ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 1:20 PM PDT 0 recs
anybody have the gameday link?
for some reason it seems to be harder to find this spring than it was earlier.
thanks!
by OaklandSi on Mar 12, 2007 1:23 PM PDT 0 recs
ANAGRAMS!!
Joe Kennedy:
Keen Joy Den
Ken Need Joy
End Keen Joy
Do Eke Jenny
Those are pretty lame.
by Philip Christy on Mar 12, 2007 1:28 PM PDT 0 recs
Gameday for those who want it.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/y2006...
by athleticscatcher on Mar 12, 2007 1:29 PM PDT 0 recs
Eric Chavez:
Chive Craze
I Carve "Chez"
He Vice Czar
His name ain't too good either.
by Philip Christy on Mar 12, 2007 1:31 PM PDT 0 recs
Kendall should charge the mound.
by Poppy on
Mar 12, 2007 1:35 PM PDT
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Komine & Hererra optioned to AAA
by baseballgirl on Mar 12, 2007 1:34 PM PDT 0 recs
Too fast.
For Komine, anyway. Kennedy has done nothing to prove he would be any better as the fifth starter. I guess Windsor's ahead of him in line.
by jeepers on
Mar 12, 2007 2:16 PM PDT
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Ichiro singles to lf, runners on 1st and 2nd.
Beltre up.
by theblackpearl on Mar 12, 2007 1:35 PM PDT 0 recs
Kennedy walks the bases loaded, Curt Young goes
to mound. Maybe he should just pitch, can't be much worse.
by theblackpearl on Mar 12, 2007 1:37 PM PDT 0 recs
Ken Korach:
Ho Knacker (It just sounds funny!)
Hear Knock
Hare Knock
Hero Knack
Ark? Heck no!
Ken, Or Hack?
by Philip Christy on Mar 12, 2007 1:37 PM PDT 0 recs
2 run single, 4-0 Mariners, Kennedy sure is going
to be paid well if he keeps this up.
by theblackpearl on Mar 12, 2007 1:38 PM PDT 0 recs
yikes kennedy sucks ..
.. pardon my language ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 1:38 PM PDT 0 recs
Sexson grounds out to Chavy, at the end of 2, 4-0
Seattle
by theblackpearl on Mar 12, 2007 1:40 PM PDT 0 recs
Kennedy = not good
Supposed to get 'stretched out' to be a starter. At the current rate, if he goes five, he'll give up 10 runs. Awesome.
by baseballgirl on Mar 12, 2007 1:40 PM PDT 0 recs
That'd be some stretching!
by Loon from Left on
Mar 12, 2007 1:46 PM PDT
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Stretching Kennedy out

by Poppy on
Mar 12, 2007 1:47 PM PDT
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Jim Rome says, "Rack her!"
by jeepers on
Mar 12, 2007 2:17 PM PDT
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He's repaying Seattle
for last season's generosity.
by Ray of Lite on Mar 12, 2007 1:43 PM PDT 0 recs
Curt Young:
Country Rug
Gun Outcry
Uncut Orgy
Gout N U Cry
No Curt Guy
Coy Nut Rug
Uncoy Trug
His name was much more fun.
by Philip Christy on Mar 12, 2007 1:43 PM PDT 0 recs
With those 2 runs the last inning, Kennedy saw
his ERA drop from 21.21 to 20.86. How sad is that
by theblackpearl on Mar 12, 2007 1:45 PM PDT 0 recs
Joe Kennedy Sucks:
Dense Jockey Sunk
Seek Second Junkey
by Philip Christy on Mar 12, 2007 1:47 PM PDT 0 recs
Bradley flies out to Bloomquist, Middle ot 3,
4-0 Mariners
by theblackpearl on Mar 12, 2007 1:49 PM PDT 0 recs
Kennedy still throwing BP, Guillen with a leadoff
double
by theblackpearl on Mar 12, 2007 1:51 PM PDT 0 recs
Johjima flies out to Buck, I guess the runner
didn't advance. Buan didn't say
by theblackpearl on Mar 12, 2007 1:52 PM PDT 0 recs
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