Brand New AN Coming Soon
Fellow ANers, I just wanted to let you know that we've been working on a brand new blogging platform for a long, long time. The incremental steps that we took in making the comments auto-refresh was just an attempt at adding some existing functionality to our site.
But this will be a complete revamp. The whole look of the page will be completed different, so sometime in February when you log on, you will think that you might've stumbled onto the wrong page. We will be integrating so many more features and so many things that people have wanted for a long time that it will hopefully make nearly everyone happy (I know on the Internet, that's an impossible task).
It's been a long and arduous process, but we're in the final phases and it should launch very soon. It's been a bit of a "rebuilding" process, if you will. Billy's been doing it and so have we. I guess I also could say that it's like Eric Chavez getting rebuilt into Steve Austin, but I liked the A's analogy better.
I can't give you much more details than that (I can't really answer questions), but I did want to prime ANers and let you know that it was coming. So stay tuned.
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Will it allow me to
put all my comments on "ignore myself?" God I hope so.
by Nico on Jan 10, 2008 12:51 PM PST 0 recs
I can't hear anybody else
by kaweahkaweah on
Jan 10, 2008 12:56 PM PST
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I don't know what's more despair-inducing
The fact that I actually recognize what you're referring to here, or the fact that I will now be hearing it in my head for a week.
by PaulThomas on
Jan 10, 2008 1:11 PM PST
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Always glad to help put an annoying song
in someone's head.
by kaweahkaweah on
Jan 10, 2008 1:48 PM PST
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no ... but you've been traded
by monkeyball on
Jan 10, 2008 1:34 PM PST
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NEW AN SUCKS!!!!!
I just wanted to be the first to say it. :)
by theblackpearl on Jan 10, 2008 12:57 PM PST 0 recs
I LOVE THE NEW AN!!!!!
Just trying to stay positive.
by muffinpryde on
Jan 10, 2008 4:18 PM PST
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FIRE MACHA NOW!!!
I saw all the capital letters and I just couldn't help myself....
by GreenNGoldSooner on
Jan 11, 2008 5:14 AM PST
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posting organization
While you're at it, how about shifting things around a bit on the main board? I really appreciate all the work you and the other main posters do in getting something new up here every day- it's really great to have somewhere to come and to see something new and insightful.
I understand the burden of trying to come up with something on such a frequent basis- one of the reasons I come here is because I don't have anything baseball-related to process and I'm looking for something! The onerous burden, though, sometimes takes its toll, and a poster can't come up with much to say. I don't want to point any fingers, because 99% of the time I love to read the insights of the various posters and I don't want to discourage any of them, but sometimes, well... you know what I'm trying to say.
The antidote to this, it seems, is posting some of the particularly insightful diaries on the front page rather than applying more pressure to your usual frequent contributors. Certainly things should be vetted, and I appreciate that you have an undoubtedly heavy editorial lead as it is, but why not go ahead and give top billing to posters who have taken a good chunk of time to investigate something or to articulate a hypothesis or idea about the team? Again, I'm not suggesting you hand over the keys to the board, but why not post things in the middle that you think are solid, and perhaps give your tired crew a bit of a break from writing (though not from reviewing/ editing)?
by BerkeleyDawg on Jan 10, 2008 1:07 PM PST 0 recs
I'd certainly welcome more of my diaries ...
getting promoted ...
I think the entire site would benefit if that were to happen.
by devo on
Jan 10, 2008 1:15 PM PST
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Where can I send the flowers?
Obviously you've suffered a traumatic head injury and are currently in a hospital trying to recover.
by grover on
Jan 10, 2008 2:44 PM PST
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I have had infinitely more of my diaries ...
promoted than you have.
by devo on
Jan 10, 2008 2:49 PM PST
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So you're the better kiss ass
I've had 3X the number of 100+ comment diaries as you have.
You're Jack Morris to my Bert Blyleven.
by grover on
Jan 10, 2008 3:01 PM PST
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What--nobody wants to be Clemens any more?
Something about being pricked in the butt repeatedly that doesn't appeal to you?
by The Dogfather on
Jan 10, 2008 3:08 PM PST
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That joke will work better in 5 years
I was pushing more for the instant HOF credibility...
by grover on
Jan 10, 2008 3:11 PM PST
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You're just jealous ...
you posted half of the comments in all of your 100+ comment diaries ...
by devo on
Jan 10, 2008 3:28 PM PST
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Why would I be jealous?
I'm taller and more popular.
by grover on
Jan 10, 2008 3:34 PM PST
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But I'm better looking ...
and I've had three diaries promoted to the front page.
by devo on
Jan 10, 2008 3:44 PM PST
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Like I said
You are the superior kiss ass. I acknowledge your pretty empty-headness as surpassing my own.
I'll just stick to superior talent and better manners.
by grover on
Jan 10, 2008 3:49 PM PST
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That's fine ...
keep begging the admins to promote you ...
by devo on
Jan 10, 2008 3:52 PM PST
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I can't speak for Nico, bbg, Blez, or Louis
... but I accept PayPal.
by monkeyball on
Jan 10, 2008 3:54 PM PST
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Looking at that list
bbg always has something interesting to say so she never has the need to find a sub.
Blez hates me.
Louis ignores.
(Or maybe I've got Blez and Louis mixed up.)
You're on the take but I'm lacking cash.
Nico doesn't have the power.
To sum up, I'm fucked.
by grover on
Jan 10, 2008 8:19 PM PST
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I thought pretending to show humility would help
I was wrong.
Obviously I need to start writing less relevant diaries... like your stuff... to get bumped to the front page.
Your vapidness aside, would it really have killed you to say "thanks"?
by grover on
Jan 10, 2008 3:57 PM PST
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Thanks, buddy ...
by devo on
Jan 10, 2008 4:04 PM PST
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I can certainly volunteer that
I'd be more than happy, if given license, to pull more diaries to the front page on days I have nothing in particular to say - in the off-season, especially right around this time of year, there are plenty of days where I spend the first few minutes muttering, "what should I talk about...what should I talk about..." because I don't actually have something to say that day. Hardly inspired fare.
by Nico on
Jan 10, 2008 1:39 PM PST
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Tuesdays and Fridays ...
got it ...
by devo on
Jan 10, 2008 1:53 PM PST
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As a general principle,
I would say that any diary that starts from a position of "what should I talk about?" is going to be a bad diary. This is nothing against you, Nico, just my objection to the pervasive idea that space must be filled with content.
One should write because one has something to say. One should never manufacture something to say just for the sake of writing about it.
In my opinion, this is one of the worst things about our education system. It impresses upon the student that the purpose of writing is something other than communication.
AN's front page should be like the RotoWorld blurb. If nobody has anything worth saying that day, then yesterday's story should just stay there.
by iglew on
Jan 10, 2008 3:28 PM PST
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Education ...
I find having learned to write about things that I have nothing meaningful that I really want to say about them to be a valuable, real world skill that makes me highly employable.
by devo on
Jan 10, 2008 3:30 PM PST
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amen to that
by monkeyball on
Jan 10, 2008 3:33 PM PST
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Sadly, that's true
Valuable writing skills for the business world:
- Fill space when you have nothing worthwhile to say.
- Make yourself appear more knowledgeable than you really are (without the hassle of actually learning anything).
- Convince your reader to believe an idea that you know is actually false.
- Appear to answer a question without really answering it.
- Trick the reader into thinking you said one thing when you really said something else.
- Come out looking like the winner of an argument, even when your position is wrong.
School is where we learn these skills.
by iglew on
Jan 10, 2008 3:41 PM PST
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and that, grover, is how to get to the front page
by monkeyball on
Jan 10, 2008 3:46 PM PST
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I know
I've got to quit writing intelligent and interesting diaries that cause people to think.
Guess I got the wrong schooling way back when.
by grover on
Jan 10, 2008 3:52 PM PST
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either that, or start using rhyme and meter
by monkeyball on
Jan 10, 2008 3:54 PM PST
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You know, mdl, you make some great points ...
I agree with your plans to reform the education system by requiring that students focus on producing pointless drivel in their literature classes.
by devo on
Jan 10, 2008 3:48 PM PST
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BTW, you'll be happy to know ...
your diatribe against Harry Potter inspired me (directed me, really, I would read more novels, except I never know what to read. There are just so many of them ...) to purchasing a couple of the books you recommended as alternatives with greater literary value.
I've been enjoying the first few chapters of Drop City ...
Thanks.
by devo on
Jan 10, 2008 4:02 PM PST
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Your welcome, but
I wasn't diatribing. Just answering the question.
(Well, except for the quidditch rant. That was a diatribe.)
by iglew on
Jan 10, 2008 8:02 PM PST
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Whoops, my bad ...
that was 74mk ...
by devo on
Jan 10, 2008 8:09 PM PST
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I wrote text for the product catalog
of a phone-order company once, and was, as a practice, guilty of at least four of those six things pretty much regularly.
Marketing distills what would normally be interesting information into an unpalatable concentration. If education in general is following that mold... man that sucks.
by Elvez on
Jan 10, 2008 11:03 PM PST
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Contravenes blog development wisdom
It's become gospel truth in the page view counting blog success index world that you not only need something new every day, but that your clicks (thus ad revenues) benefit from having many new things every day. One need only look at any of the Gawker media sites (which, whatever else one might think, know clicks-n-ads very well) to see this dynamic in action.
New and sporadic blog users generally cast their eyes on the top of the front page, and not so much the diary section. If they see nothing new at a glance, they head somewhere else, hence the imperative for one or more new posts a day. I of course speak only of blogs generally, and not of AN's approach, of which I know nothing.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on
Jan 10, 2008 3:45 PM PST
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AN is targeting a higher blog demographic
The new new AN will tarp off the lower-rated diaries.
And you'll have to drive your car to Fremont to log on. None of this free proximity to publicly funded/developed infrastructure.
by monkeyball on
Jan 10, 2008 3:51 PM PST
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Hence "the pervasive idea"
by iglew on
Jan 10, 2008 8:04 PM PST
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Quite so
But that's because it works, if your definition of success is clicks-cum-advert revenue.
ML's newballpark blog is a great example. He offers quality content, but delivered sporadically, sometimes going 7-14 days between posts. I bet his click rates plummet from that, and don't quickly rebound, if they ever do. He doesn't seem to be in it for the money, what with no ads and all, so that may not matter to him, but if profits are a factor, you need fresh posts, or people just stop visiting.
But as with most pursuits, you're obviously right that the well-considered words of an author with something to say are much more interesting than one s/he's compelled to print.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on
Jan 10, 2008 9:35 PM PST
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mdl, I don't particularly disagree
with anything you say. Thing is, unless I misunderstand my job description, my job is to post something Tuesday and Friday - even if I have three awesome things to say on Wednesday but little to say on Friday. (Of course this is all unless my internet goes out for most of a week, like is happening at home right now. Grrrr...)
Usually, on a given day I have something I really want to write about that is still current come the next Tuesday or Friday - but I'm not sure how Blez (or readers) would feel if I just left blank space (in this case, yesterday's post). Don't you think newspaper columnists run into this all the time? What are the odds that you happen to have exactly one thing to say every day?
by Nico on
Jan 10, 2008 3:57 PM PST
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Ray Ratto always has exactly 1 thing to say
by monkeyball on
Jan 10, 2008 4:09 PM PST
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(considers bait)
(swims elsewhere)
by rubin sierra on
Jan 10, 2008 10:24 PM PST
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Yes, I know
My objection is not with you Nico, but with the job description itself.
I understand that it doesn't fit the business model, but I'd rather you write three columns on any day where you have three worthwhile things to say, and zero columns on a day where you have none.
But I know that's not very helpful. Two bits of advice I'd give to the columnist who is obliged to meet a schedule:
First, don't sign up for a schedule that exceeds how much you have to say. If you have an average of ten column-worthy thoughts per week, then you'll be OK writing four columns a week. If you have an average of three column-worthy thoughts per week, then you'll probably run into trouble writing two columns per week. Either you have a lot to say or you don't. If you aren't constantly abandoning subpar ideas because there's no room for them, then I think you've got too much space to fill.
Second, take notice of which columns are just as interesting next week as they are this week, and keep a supply of those on file to use during the weeks when you don't have anything new to say.
That second suggestion works a lot better if you're not tied to a context where the relevance of an idea expires quickly. My personal solution to that is just to eschew all such contexts. I adhere firmly and quixotically to the belief that anything that isn't still worth talking about a week from now, probably wasn't worth talking about in the first place. That's why I hate the news, and it's why I'm more likely to watch C-Span than CNN.
I realize this theory doesn't work so well for baseball, and of course I also realize I'm way out on the fringes for believing such a thing. Even so, I wonder if the news industry wouldn't be well served by a little more of my attitude. Take the presidential campaign, for example. The question of who would make a better president is just as interesting a month from now as it is today. The question of why so-and-so jumped five points in poll X in state Y will be trivial and stupid a month from now, and that ought to be a hint to the news desk that it's trivial and stupid right now, too. But which question do all the reporters write about?
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by iglew on
Jan 10, 2008 8:22 PM PST
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WE'RE ALL GONNA DIATRIBE!!!
by monkeyball on
Jan 11, 2008 8:29 AM PST
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we're all gonna

by iglew on
Jan 11, 2008 11:04 AM PST
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No
We're just going to dye the Chief a different color.
Super sunburned red is offensive so I think a nice puce would work nicely.
by oaklandSMASH on
Jan 11, 2008 3:58 PM PST
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That's a good point
The one problem that we run into is that I usually have something to write about and I don't want to bury good posts underneath mine on the front page. That's why the recommended diary function is so important.
by Blez on
Jan 10, 2008 1:51 PM PST
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Recommended diaries are great too!
Good point, but why not have something on both? Alternatively, you could have a new short section on one of the margins listing the top 5 pieces from the past month (or two weeks, or whatever).
Also, are you saying that you don't mind burying good posts from the other posters? :)
by BerkeleyDawg on
Jan 11, 2008 1:52 PM PST
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Will there be an all-you-can-post section, ...
...for a nominal extra fee?
And will there be explanations for the little "+" thingies, and terms like Permalink?
And finally, LEW put you up to this, didn't he?
by The Dogfather on Jan 10, 2008 1:12 PM PST 0 recs
everyone will be much more articulate
by monkeyball on
Jan 10, 2008 1:35 PM PST
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Half of us will hate it ... half of us will ...
love it ... and the other half will withhold judgment ...
That's my prediction.
by devo on Jan 10, 2008 1:13 PM PST 0 recs
Thanks, Yogi.
by The Dogfather on
Jan 10, 2008 1:14 PM PST
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Isn't that a Rickey reference?
by Nick on
Jan 10, 2008 1:24 PM PST
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Actually the best allusion is
the Cougar Lady story, where it was said:
Half the people here can't see, the other half can't hear, and the rest can't think.
by mikeA on
Jan 10, 2008 3:33 PM PST
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blog prospects
So who did we trade away (this time) to get this new blog? Hurry we need a scout's view on this trade...
by rightbackin on Jan 10, 2008 1:24 PM PST 0 recs
Well, we know grover's
been on the trading block...
by PaulThomas on
Jan 10, 2008 1:29 PM PST
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Blez hates muppets n/t
by Nick on
Jan 10, 2008 1:55 PM PST
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the new new AN will automatically kiss Sal's ass
by monkeyball on Jan 10, 2008 1:36 PM PST 0 recs
goddamnit
you just stole my joke.
The new new new AN needs to prevent that somehow.
by andeux on
Jan 10, 2008 1:51 PM PST
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that's a feature, not a bug
Current and all future iterations of AN will aways reserve the best jokes for the front-page writers.
by monkeyball on
Jan 10, 2008 2:06 PM PST
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As long as it's a true rebuild
and not yet another reload.
by oblique on Jan 10, 2008 2:21 PM PST 0 recs
in former Soviet Union, AN rebuilds *you*
by monkeyball on
Jan 10, 2008 2:29 PM PST
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This is about the biggest rebuild
You'll ever see. And we're going for instant dynasty.
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Jan 10, 2008 2:47 PM PST
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