Gettin' Ziggy With It (1st Edition)
[EDITOR’S NOTE: Brad Ziegler is only 27 years old, but he’s already lived eight of his nine baseball lives. He’s been through one of the scariest moments a pitcher could ever encounter when he was hit in the head with a line drive. He’s also being converted to a Chad Bradford-type submarine style reliever despite his 3.37 ERA in Midland last year. This from a guy who used to be a starter. You can read more about Ziegler’s career here. And if you subscribe to Baseball Prospectus, this is a must read about Ziegler.
So when Ziegler recently contacted me about the site, I jumped at the chance and asked him about giving ANers a little more insight into the mind of someone right on the cusp of being in the Show. Brad has graciously offered to provided a column for AN throughout the year about his transition. The following is the first installment of Ziegler’s contribution to AN. I want to thank Brad for taking the time and effort to give us fans something really special. A look inside something we love.
Here is a quick summary of some of Ziegler’s baseball accomplishments:
Pro
• Promoted to Sacramento (AAA) (July, 2006)
• 2nd in Texas League (AA) in ERA (2006)
• Texas League All-Star (2006)
• Texas League mid-season All-Star (2006)
• Texas League Pitcher of the Week (4/16/06)
• Promoted to Midland (AA) (August, 2005)
• Oakland A’s organization strikeout leader (2005)
• California League (high-A) strikeout leader (2005)
• California League Pitcher of the Week (8/9/04)
• Signed free agent contract with Oakland A’s (June, 2004)
• Signed with Schaumburg Flyers of the independent Northern League (2004)
• 20th-round draft pick and signed by Philadelphia Phillies (2003)
• 31st-round draft pick by Oakland A's (2002)
College
• Harwich Mariners Pitcher of the Year Award -- Cape Cod League (2002)
• Eastern Division All-star – Cape Cod League (2002)
• Southwest Missouri St. (SMS) all-time career wins and strikeouts leader
• ABCA 3rd Team All-American (2003)
• ABCA Midwest All-Region 1st Team (2003)
• NCAA Lincoln Regional All-Tournament Team (2003)
• Missouri Valley Conference (MVC) Pitcher of the Year (2003)
• 2-time All-MVC 1st Team (2002-2003)
• 3-time Academic All-MVC 1st Team (2001-2003)
• 3-time MVC Pitcher of the Week (4/1/02, 4/29/02, 2/24/03)
- Enjoy the look inside baseball from someone living it. – Blez]
Hello, everyone! My name is Brad Ziegler (pronounced "ZIG-luhr"), and I'm a pitcher in the A's minor league system. Blez and I have been kicking around some ideas, and he threw out the possibility of me doing a journal during the 2007 season. For now, the plan is to post an entry every other Monday throughout the year. Please feel free, at any point, to share opinions about what I write, topics you'd like me to discuss, and any questions you have about professional baseball. I'll do my best to cover as many readers' suggestions as I can.
For starters, Blez thought it would be a good idea to give a summary of my baseball career for those who aren't familiar with my story...
I grew up in Odessa, MO, and played my college career at Southwest Missouri State (now known as Missouri State) in Springfield, MO. In the fall of 2001, I was married to my lovely wife, Kristi. A year and a half later, I was drafted in the 31st round by the A's following my junior season, but opted to return for my senior season. After graduating with a degree in mathematics, my teammates and I were fortunate enough to make it to the 2003 College World Series, and I was drafted in the 20th round by the Philadelphia Phillies.
I fought tendonitis in my shoulder during my first season with the Phillies, and I was only able to log six innings in short-season Batavia. After three weeks of workouts at the following spring training, I was told by the farm director that I "was not good enough to pitch in Low-A," and I was "too old to return to short season." Consequently, the Phillies released me a week before the season started.
After returning home, I signed a contract to play in the independent Northern League for the Schaumburg Flyers. After a month, I received a few contract offers, and I elected to sign with Oakland to go to High-A and pitch in the starting rotation. I went 9-2 that summer in Modesto, and we won the 2004 California League championship.
However, in game five of the Cal League semifinals, I was hit in the head with a 103-mph line drive off the bat of Giants' prospect Fred Lewis. I was diagnosed with brain swelling, a 1.5-inch fracture in the right temporal area of my skull, and 80% hearing loss in my right ear. I spent five nights in ICU (6 nights total) in the Modesto hospital. Two weeks later, most of my hearing had returned, and I was cleared to return home to Springfield, MO.
After spending nearly the entire off-season recovering, I was cleared to pitch again at the end of January. I returned with Oakland to play in 2005, my first full season. I spent most of the year in high-A Stockton, going 9-7 as a starter. I was promoted to AA Midland in August, and we were able to win the Texas League title.
In 2006, I returned to Midland to start the year. In July, I was promoted to AAA Sacramento, where I made four starts, going 0-1. In August, I returned to Midland in time for an exciting run to the Texas League playoffs. I ended the year with a 9-6 record for Midland.
At the end of the season, Ron Romanick (A's minor league pitching coordinator) approached me about becoming a submarine reliever. After some thought and prayer, I agreed to make the switch. After re-signing with Oakland for 2007, I went down to Arizona to instructional league to work with Ron on the new delivery. It has been a lot of hard work, because I'm basically re-learning how to throw. However, early results have been positive, and the delivery is becoming more and more comfortable each day. I'm hoping to go to spring training and earn a spot in the Sacramento bullpen.
In my career, I've been very fortunate to play with and against some tremendous players. I had the misfortune (haha) of facing Albert Pujols on a regular basis in high school, as well as playing alongside him on a couple all-star teams. Also, among my college teammates were Phillies first baseman and 2006 NL MVP Ryan Howard, Rangers' pitcher John Rheinecker, and Blue Jays' pitcher Shaun Marcum. In addition, it goes without saying that I've been around some outstanding players in pro ball, including MANY in the Oakland organization.
I'm very excited about the upcoming season, and I hope this diary will provide some insight to you about life as a pro ballplayer. Questions and comments are welcome, and I will try to respond to as many as possible in my next entry two weeks from now (from Phoenix, AZ).
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A degree in mathematics?
by salb918 on Feb 5, 2007 8:13 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Funny. That's the first thing I thought, too.
by TurnTwo on Feb 5, 2007 8:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You can tell that Salb is a math major,
by Zonis on Feb 5, 2007 10:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
those are fitting words!
by xbhaskarx on Feb 5, 2007 10:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You have to fit for your right to Math.
-Nick Swisher
by kaweahkaweah on Feb 5, 2007 11:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it's not the size of the dog in the fit
by batgirl on Feb 6, 2007 12:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the first rule of Fit Club is ...
by monkeyball on Feb 6, 2007 12:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome Brad
One question: what about your pitching style made you a candidate for conversion to a submariner?
Good luck! And thanks again for sharing your great story.
by boilerdan on Feb 5, 2007 8:17 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I too look forward to your posts!
by Hang Man on Feb 5, 2007 8:30 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Awesome
by BlameChannel53 on Feb 5, 2007 8:32 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
a few questions
if you had a few contract offers, why did you choose to sign with the a's? did it have anything to do with the a's drafting you in your junior year? or was their offer somehow better than the others?
what reasons did ron romanick and the a's give you for wanting to turn you into a submarine reliever?
you mention your W-L record, is that primarily what you as a pitcher judge your own performance by? do you pay attention to things like k/9 or bb/9?
have you faced any batters since changing to a submarine delivery or will spring training be the first time?
thanks for doing this, and good luck!
by xbhaskarx on Feb 5, 2007 8:33 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
This will be a great feature
by louismg on Feb 5, 2007 8:40 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Wow....extremely cool...
by OaktownPower on Feb 5, 2007 8:45 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to AN Brad
-Nick Swisher
by kaweahkaweah on Feb 5, 2007 8:54 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Great post
I hope you make it to the MLB team and have a great MLB career as well.
by apilgrim on Feb 5, 2007 9:01 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
awesome
by gotgreen on Feb 5, 2007 9:03 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Wow, how totally awesome!
Thanks for doing this, and for sharing some firsthand insight as you continue on your professional baseball career, and thanks Blez for setting this up.
I guess my first questions would be:
- How did you overcome the instinctive fear or perhaps tentative feeling you might've experienced when first taking the mound again after taking that nasty line drive in the head?
- Like others have already asked, what reasons did the organization give for wishing you to convert to a submarine-style delivery? And now that you've been working on that for a little while, do you think they were right? Or too soon to tell, maybe?
by still bills kingdom on Feb 5, 2007 9:04 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
How would you artfully dodge the question,
by devo on Feb 5, 2007 9:51 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Very cool
- It looks like you've been teammates with another submariner, Shawn Kohn, for the last few years. Has he helped you adjust to that style of pitching?
- Ryan Howard was drafted in the 5th round, and Albert Pujols in the 13th(!). Was there anything about them that stood out from other guys you knew who were drafted in the middle rounds, and made you think they would turn into the monster hitters that they are?
- Do you know how many of your teammates have also finished their college degrees?
by andeux on Feb 5, 2007 9:59 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Awesome read Brad, Blez.
A lot of fans dismiss the idea that the closer (or ninth inning pitcher) requires some additional degree of mental toughness to succeed. In your experience, do you think there are specific personality traits that help someobdy excel in the closer role?
Along the same lines, a lot of fans talk about the idea of flexible bullpens where closer, set-up guy, middle relief designations are abandoned in favor of pure matchups. Would this kind of uncertainty negatively impact your ability to prepare for game situations?
Thanks a lot for joining us!
by salb918 on Feb 5, 2007 10:26 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Great Idea!
We are all rooting for you to make the Sacto bullpen, and looking forward to your bi-monthly journal. It will be another good way for us ANers to keep up with our AAA team.
by robertmelvin on Feb 5, 2007 10:52 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ziggy Prospect and the SABRs from BART
Ziggy Prospect
Ziggy pitched sidearm, jamming bats for Forst and Billy
The SABRs from BART. He pitched wi' his right hand
He'll make it this far
Become the setup man, then we'll be Ziggy's band
Ziggy really flang, screwed up guys and threw down way low
Like some Chad from the past, he could lick 'em by sliding
He left no pitches to hang
Came on bases loaded man, well flung and no scores ran.
So where were the SABRs while the guy tried to break groundballs
Just the JUGS gun to guide us,
So scouts bitched about his fans and should we crush his dream plans?
Ziggy pitched for time, thriving with nary a boohoo
The scouts were just crass, but for the A's
With God given gas
He didn't get too far but boy could he pitch sidearm
Making outs with his slider Ziggy sucked up into Beane's mind
Like a Bradford messiah
When the scouts had killed his plan we had to sign up the man.
Oh yeah
Ooooooo
Ziggy piiitched siiiideaaaaaaaaaaarrrrm
by monkeyball on Feb 5, 2007 11:02 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
a's uniform need more glitter
by xbhaskarx on Feb 5, 2007 11:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"Like a Bradford messiah":
by LAXile on Feb 5, 2007 1:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
on second thought ...
by monkeyball on Feb 6, 2007 11:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
flang?
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Feb 5, 2007 7:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
<displays poetic license and registration>
<hauled off by FSU to Poetry Pokey; voluntarily enters poetic abuse counseling program>
by monkeyball on Feb 6, 2007 9:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
<monkeyball rehabilitates image,
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Feb 6, 2007 10:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
Read it.
by JediLeroy on Feb 7, 2007 8:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
excellent!
by monkeyball on Feb 7, 2007 9:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet
by fridaynightfan on Feb 6, 2007 8:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Odessa!
by Jennifer on Feb 5, 2007 11:09 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Excellent
I was wondering about the vibe amongst players in the minors. Obviously you are on the same team and trying to win together for each team you play for. You also surely become friends with your teammates. However, you are also in essence competing with them trying to be the guy that gets promoted to the next level. Are most guys pretty cool with this situation, or do you ever run across complete a-holes who let it be know it's them against you regardless of being teammates?
by batgirl on Feb 5, 2007 11:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
cusp = verge
by DCinWC on Feb 5, 2007 12:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Looking forward to this regular feature
by jeepers on Feb 5, 2007 12:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Excellent
I don't have any questions (at the moment) but I would like to say (therefore I will) that math majors are da' bomb! (Unless "da' bomb" isn't 'in' anymore, in which case math majors are whatever is currently 'in')
by JLeverenz on Feb 5, 2007 12:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I was a math major
I always loved the certainty of math and the process of solving equations.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Feb 5, 2007 12:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's too bad
On the other hand, if you had stuck with math we might not have AN, so I suppose it's for the best!
by JLeverenz on Feb 5, 2007 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
An interesting side not about math and AN.
by alox on Feb 5, 2007 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
<gently strokes slide rule>
by LawDaddy on Feb 5, 2007 4:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Math Classes
I was doing a functional analysis seminar (at some unholy hour of like 8 or 8:30 in the morning), and I was complaining to a friend that I was following, understanding the process, but not getting the picture.
He responded (holding his hands in front of him as though holding a grapefruit): "Oh, it's easy..... Picture n-space..."
by Bronx A's Fan on Feb 6, 2007 8:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
its all good
by methodrampage on Feb 5, 2007 2:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is Awesome!
Welcome to AN!
by BobbyCrosbysGirl on Feb 5, 2007 1:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Looking forward to reading your journal
Good luck!!!
by dmcewan on Feb 5, 2007 2:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to AN
- Does the new pitching motion mean you're headed to the bullpen full time?
- Where do you expect to be playing next year, AA or AAA?
by grover on Feb 5, 2007 2:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind question #2
by grover on Feb 5, 2007 2:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats all around
As for Brad, I was wondering what it's like learning to throw a breaking ball underhand. Spending so much time throughout your career learning how to get just the right spin and arm motion, I imagine it's like trying to learn a whole other language.
Thanks to both Brad and Blez, looking forward to seeing these entries throughout the year.
by Joey C. on Feb 5, 2007 2:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Welcome Brad!
by Hawk on Feb 5, 2007 3:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
TY Brad...
by IM4Oakgal on Feb 5, 2007 3:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
What's life like in the minors?
by alox on Feb 5, 2007 4:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
another reason why this is the greatest sportsblog
by emperor nobody on Feb 5, 2007 4:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
I don't have any specific questions for you Brad, but feel free to answer everybody elses.
;) :P
by Boonee on Feb 5, 2007 4:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Welcome
Math major, eh? -- I've had mixed feelings about players who turn pro and don't finish college. I lean toward getting the degree because it helps later if a sport doesn't work out. Unless that first contract is multi-millions!
by Dan_Honolulu on Feb 5, 2007 5:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Welcome, Brad, nice to "meet" you!
by Poppy on Feb 5, 2007 5:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He'll "see" you around...
by ArakSOT on Feb 6, 2007 9:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OMG!
by iloveoakland on Feb 5, 2007 5:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Awesome!!
by anomaly_kat on Feb 5, 2007 6:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
This is really great!
by oblique on Feb 5, 2007 6:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
SMS
2-time Dave Dickensheet SMS Pitcher of the Year Award (2001-2002)
- Southwest Standard SMS Baseball Athlete of the Year (2001)
- Danny Cook SMS Rookie of the Year Award (2000)
by LawDaddy on Feb 5, 2007 6:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Okay, so if train leaves Chicago going 45 MPH...
by The Dogfather on Feb 5, 2007 6:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Blez, Brad Thank You......
I will look forward to reading your journal Brad.
Good Luck turning into the next Dan Quisenberry.
by Mike Heath on Feb 5, 2007 8:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
A: Why BZ is a candidate for submariner
by notsellingjeans on Feb 5, 2007 9:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Welcome aboard brad
by Athletics fan and runner on Feb 5, 2007 10:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
jawesome.
by ConditionOakland on Feb 5, 2007 10:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Now, just how coll is that?!
by elcroata on Feb 6, 2007 2:54 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Of course,
by elcroata on Feb 6, 2007 2:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So, a regular Jim Bouton, eh?
by UncleMo on Feb 6, 2007 9:22 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I look forward to your posts, Brad,
by Ray of Lite on Feb 6, 2007 9:54 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
A little late to the party...
by baseballgirl on Feb 6, 2007 10:11 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
This is quite weird
With that said,one question,will you be with the big league ballclub for spring training?
by J Rod on Feb 6, 2007 12:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
This will be GREAT...
One question... you have been a "starter" your whole career... what will you have to do to focus on being the "reliever" and doing a whole new delivery with the submarine?
... hey coach... put me in, I'm ready to play! :)
by Yas822 on Feb 6, 2007 1:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Welcome
No questions, just thanks for taking the chance on AN. I think you'll be well rewarded.
by fridaynightfan on Feb 6, 2007 8:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I know this is late BUT...
Look forward to hearing more about your progress ans insights!
Thanks guys!
-Polytician
by polytician on Feb 7, 2007 6:29 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Good Job
by ruffriders23 on Feb 7, 2007 8:03 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Welcome Brad
by Charlie Brown on Feb 7, 2007 8:57 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hey Ziggy!
Joe
by since72 on Feb 8, 2007 9:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
for the love of the game
What is it about baseball that you love most?
by captainbubblehead on Feb 9, 2007 8:22 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

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