The 25 Man Roster After Spring Training
It will be difficult to cut it down to 25 by end of Spring Training.
I mean, really. We should expect to see several trades during or after Spring Training. Look at this.
Starting with the Position Players, look at who we have competing for spots.
We have 1 starting spot open, LF/1B, with the other side taken by Nick Swisher. We also have people competing for the bench slots as well if they do not make it.
On the bench, we know that Marco Scutaro will be back, and that Adam Melhuse seems locked for Backup Catching duties, despite it probably being a better idea to promote John Baker and/or Jeremey Brown.
That leaves 3 bench spots open.
So for four roster slots, we have the following people battling for them:
1B Erubiel Durazo (Minor League Deal)
1B Dan Johnson (Out of Options)
OF Bobby Kielty (Out of Options?)
OF Shannon Stewart (MLB Deal)
OF Ryan Goleski (Rule 5)
3B Antonio Perez (Out of Options)
So for 4 spots, we have 6 players competing. One is guarenteed a spot, in Stewart. One has to be on the roster, or we lose him with Goleski. Three others can't be sent down to the minors if they fail to make the team.
So who makes the team and who doesn't?
I think that Stewart's signing may lead to the end of Bobby Kielty's stay in Oakland, which is ironic being that they were once traded for each other. Perez might have to stay simply because we need infield depth. Johnson and Durazo are the best hitters of the group, but DJ can play Defense and Durazo can not. And Goleski will most likely make the team because of the price the A's had to pay.
So if you remove Kielty and Durazo, we have 4 for 4. 2 Outfielders, a 1st Baseman and a 3B, then throw in Scutaro and Melhuse and you have your bench and starting 9 (with DJ and Stewart platooning).
On the pitching side, we have the four locked starters:
Harden
Haren
Loaiza
Blanton
and the 5th starter, which is likely to be Joe Kennedy. Or should I say, it will likely be a left hander, which means either Kennedy, Halsey or Meyer. Personally, I am rooting for Meyer, because if he really is back healthy, he will be better then the other two by far.
Then there is the bullpen. We know that currently the locks for the pen are:
Street
Duchscherer
Calero
Gaudin
Embree
with one or two open spots depending on the bench.
Competing for those slots are:
RHP Jason Windsor
RHP Shane Komine
RHP Santiago Cassilla
RHP Jay Witasick (MLB Contract)
RHP Scott Dunn
LHP Brad Halsey (if fail to get 5th Starter slot)
LHP Dan Meyer (if fail to get 5th Starter slot)
LHP Ron Flores
LHP Jay Marshall (Rule 5)
LHP Joe Kennedy (if fail to get 5th Starter slot)
At first glance, it stands to reason that Jay Marshall will end up being returned. But really, there is not really any one who stands out explicitley that it might not be better to have starting in Sacramento rather then being the bottom reliever in Oakland. One thing we could use, however, is a long man, so that makes Komine, Windsor, Meyer and Halsey's cases better.
Jay Witasick is a difficult decision. He could be good, and he is signed to a reasonable contract, especially on this market. He could be a 1 inning blowout guy, and he has to be on the MLB team if he isn't traded. Marshall would be a pure LOOGY, and as Embree is slated to be in Kennedy's role last year (Lefty Setup, not LOOGY), Marshall could be useful. If he fails, he can always be given back.
I think that Windsor, Komine and Meyer, if they do not crack the starting rotation, will end up back in Sacramento. Komine might actually have the best bet of the 3 to make the pen, as the other two are better bets as starters. Cassilla and Dunn have little to no chance making the squad, and Flores seems to be out of favor with the A's managment, or at least was with Ken Macha.
So my prediction on the A's 25 Man roster out of Spring Training will be:
C1 Kendall
1B Johnson
2B Ellis
3B Chavez
SS Crosby
LF Swisher
RF Bradley
CF Kotsay
DH Piazza
C2 Melhuse
SS Scutaro
3B Perez
OF Stewart
OF Goleski
SP Harden
SP Haren
SP Loaiza
SP Blanton
SP Kennedy
CL Street
SU Duchscherer
SU Calero
SU Gaudin
SU Embree
LNG Halsey
Odd Men Out-
Traded:
OF Bobby Kielty
RP Jay Marshall
RP Jay Witasick
Optioned:
1B Erubiel Durazo
SP Dan Meyer
SP Jason Windsor
SP Shane Komine
RP Santiago Casilla
RP Ron Flores
RP Scott Dunn
This leaves us with a 6 man bullpen as opposed to the 7 man pen we usually have gone with. The difference being that this year, we have even more quality in the pen, with 5 good relievers and a good enough long man/lefty.
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We didn't have to pay THAT much for Goleski
They'll keep him.
Goleski
by BlameChannel53 on Feb 21, 2007 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
Good analysis
Good idea
Position players
I think Johnson and Kielty have the inside track right now, but I could see Goleski making a push with a good spring.
Why is Dan Johnson starting?
Couple reasons
#2: He's really just there to fill in till Barton and Buck are ready.
Stewart
Its given that because the A's OF is prone to injuries that they will need a 4th and most likely a 5th OF.
Maybe Dan Johnson will have a great spring, I just dont see him as the starting 1B for the A's come opening day. Swisher is a MUCH better option.
by pickinmachine on Feb 21, 2007 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
I am curious
It is no secret that I adore that guy, so I am going to defend him, but I would really like to hear your reasoning here.
I think Melhuse has been great for us. I would love to see him get a ton more playing time. I know logically that won't happen, but it would be nice.
Personally I don't think Baker or Brown are ready for the show. Maybe in a year or two, but not yet.
I whole heartedly agree with you on Witasick. I would really like to see him traded for someone we can use.
by BobbyCrosbysGirl on Feb 21, 2007 12:15 PM PST reply actions
The reason is simple
Melhuse, on the other hand, will still not get a whole lot of playing time on the big club. He will get more then last year, yes, but still not a huge amount. He is neither great offensivly or great defensivly, and I think Baker could fill his role pretty well.
Melhuse also will get paid a lot more then a catcher making league minimum, so there's money saved right there.
There is also one more reason I want Baker or Brown there. Suzuki, as we all know, will likely take the starting job in Oakland in 2008, when Kendall leaves for Free Agency. At that time, I would prefer a backup catcher along with him that had some expirience catching the staff. That means that either Melhuse has to stay yet another year, or that Baker or Brown has to be called up this year and get that expirience now.
The only reason I can see to keep Melhuse is to use him, as someone pointed out, as a backup 3B and 1B as well as the backup catcher.
I think they kept Melhuse
I'd take Kendall's
by Helloooo 1st on Feb 21, 2007 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
this year
.295 avg
by methodrampage on Feb 22, 2007 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
2007 is all fine and good
Don't misunderestimate yourself
End of the world is forthcoming in 2012
Dec 19th is the date in 2012 that the Mayan calendar ends and the world is supposed to end on that date.
We can LOL but it has held up to scrutiny in all past eras.
by Charlie Brown on Feb 21, 2007 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
Darren Daulton agrees with you
"Earth, Daulton believes, is entering a quadrant of space in which the "vibrational energy" will increase dramatically. "The Mayan calendar stops at Dec. 21, 2012 -- the date the Mayans believed the world would end," he says. "On that day, at 11:11 a.m. Greenwich Mean Time, those who are ready to ascend will vanish from this plane of existence, like the crew of the Enterprise in Star Trek."
Expounding:
"Reality is created and guarded by numeric patterns that overlap and awaken human consciousness, like a giant matrix or hologram. They are created by sacred geometry -- numbers, the language of the universe, codes of awakening -- such as 11:11, which represent twin strands of DNA about to return to balance. Eleven equals BALANCE. I'll wake up at night and look at the clock and it's 11:11. I'll turn on the TV and see a baseball game tied at 11 in the 11th inning. I'll look out the window and see a car passing with 1111 on the license plate. The car will turn into a driveway with 1111 on the mailbox."
Insane? In his defense, Daulton explains:
"I've been thrown in jail five or six times. Nicole thinks I'm crazy. She blames everything on drugs and drinking. But I don't take drugs and I'm not a drunk. Nicole just doesn't understand metaphysics."
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Feb 21, 2007 8:07 PM PST up reply actions
Something in the water in Philly
1111
well, obviously that means the world is ending.
or maybe some guy has a specialized license plate.
'Or sometimes I'll be thinking about a plate of...
that often happens to me
Great News!
-Nick Swisher
by kaweahkaweah on Feb 22, 2007 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
No reason to promote Baker or Brown
Suzuki
by BlameChannel53 on Feb 21, 2007 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
Melhuse should stay for two years
Sounds good to me
by BlameChannel53 on Feb 22, 2007 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
do you know how old melhuse is?
by methodrampage on Feb 23, 2007 9:02 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not a huge Melhuse fan
by BlameChannel53 on Feb 23, 2007 9:06 AM PST up reply actions
melhuse
by methodrampage on Feb 23, 2007 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
re:
by AsBeTheWay on Feb 21, 2007 2:03 PM PST reply actions
good job
Nope
Each player on that roster of 25 is going to have to prove himself useful on the field.
Keith Ginter
As for the roster, I pretty much agree with what's been posted. I think Melhuse is a lousy hitter and a waste of resources, but I think the same can be said of Watisck and Embree given the minimum earning bullpen arms we have strewn about.
Suzuki is the starter of the future at catcher. I think he'll be a fine .280/.350/.400 type with defense that gets better by the day. Powell's a wild card, but I'm not holding out for much from him.
If we see Durazo get significant time this year, I think it means Piazza's done just awful or we've had some bad injuries.
With the whole double vision deal, I'd also let to see DJ get a crack, albeit while tethered to a short leash, to see if he can be a solid bat again, because I'm not sure Stewart is anything more at this point than a pretty good fourth outfielder.
I'd be surprised to see Buck or Barton in the majors this year. Barton's recovering from injury and still needs to show he can slug over .400 in the minors, let alone the majors. Buck's more likely, but with Stewart, Goleski, and (right now)
Kielty blocking him from so much as being on the bench, I wouldn't say very likely.
by walk off bunt on Feb 21, 2007 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
I think you're wrong about Buck
No I agree
by walk off bunt on Feb 22, 2007 7:44 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah that's where my point got all convoluted
I mean if injuries and the like accumulate then, obviously, he'd definitely have a shot. But if the rotation of Swish/Stewart/Bradley/Kotsay/(right now)Kielty holds up at all, I don't see why Buck would be brought up early.
But yeah, he's going to be a solid, solid regular, and I very well could be wrong. He could go all Andre Ethier on everyone this season if any number of things happen. (DJ sucks/gets hurt, Swish moves to first. Kotsay/Stewart/Bradley have health/performance problems. etc.)
by walk off bunt on Feb 22, 2007 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
Ginter
- Ginter is no longer on the books.
- Witasick has some trade value if he throws well this spring. He has got to be the odd man out if everyone else stays healthy (including Halsey).
- Durazo was offered a minor league contract for a reason. He's not making the team unless DJ gets hurt or is traded.
- Goleski is 50/50 to stay with the team. The $150,000 thrown at Goleski/Marshall will probably be written off as an Insurance Policy for inabilities to sign Embree and S.Stewart. Oh, well.
by Colorado Fan on Feb 22, 2007 12:02 AM PST up reply actions
Nice article and comments
Or the end of the world.
The ol' looking to far ahead to see what is right
by theblackpearl on Feb 22, 2007 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
Goleski and Cleveland
Maybe
by BlameChannel53 on Feb 21, 2007 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
If Goleski does bad enough
Not sure
by BlameChannel53 on Feb 21, 2007 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
How does he have to clear waivers? If the A's
by theblackpearl on Feb 21, 2007 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
Them's the rules
"A player drafted onto a Major League roster in the Rule 5 draft must remain in the majors (on the 25-man active roster or the DL) for all of the subsequent season, or the drafting club must attempt to return him to his original club. However, since a returned Rule 5 player must first be placed on outright waivers, a third club could claim the player off waivers. But of course, that club would then also have to keep him in the majors all season, or offer him back to his original club."
We can't work out a trade with the Indians if some other team claims him off waivers. This has happened before, but I can't think of any of the players' names at this point.
by BlameChannel53 on Feb 21, 2007 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
I could swear I responded to this post
Oh well...I probably put it by mistake in some work thing...!
anyway, I thought Ryan Armbrust's take on the 25 man roster was also interesting.
(see "Spring pruning") http://catfishstew.baseballtoaster.com/
Assuming both DJ and Durazo hit well this spring, I wouldn't be surprised to see Durazo start in Sacramento (since he can), while DJ is tried out or perhaps even showcased for a trade.
If Wash was right, Durazo is capable of being decent at 1B if he puts in the work (and is told he may be playing some 1B). It will be interesting to see if he's assigned to Sacramento but put at 1B at least a bit. (Yeah I know Barton is there, but he's no whiz there either.)
I'm a little less solid on my thinking than I was
When I originally wrote that, the reports of Goleski's good health and good hitting weren't yet in. Now, I'm leaning towards Goleski making the team, which could mean Kielty is gone.
The Rule V guys will have a ripple effect on the roster if either makes the team, I suspect.
by Ryan Armbrust on Feb 21, 2007 8:25 PM PST up reply actions
So many contingencies for so few spots
Infield health probably necessitates keeping around Scutaro and Perez, the latter being a horrible waste of roster space unless he can hit David Wells' weight.
I have no question that the 11th man on the pitching staff will be a 2nd lefty, meaning Witasick is out of the picture (unless Gaudin suddenly falls apart).
Goleski
by BerkeleyDawg on Feb 22, 2007 9:23 AM PST reply actions

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