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Gettin' Ziggy With It (vol. 2)

Hello again, everyone! Your response to the first diary entry was fantastic! I'm extremely excited about the opportunity to continue this throughout the season.

Since not much has happened for me baseball-wise this week, I thought I'd use this week's journal entry to answer some of the questions that people asked last week (with more questions to be answered in the coming weeks, so please don't feel slighted if I didn't get to your question this week)...

To start it off, no relation to Zig...special thanks to monkeyball for the fabulous song...and apologies to ruffriders23 - the "fastball" story will be kept in my inner circle.

* Moving on, numerous readers wanted to know what about my pitching style made me a candidate for converting to submarine.


For starters, I threw from a low-3/4 arm slot to begin with, and I would drop down slightly below sidearm 15-20 times a game for effect - mostly versus righties. Furthermore, I'll quote the Baseball Prospectus article (by Kevin Goldstein) that discussed the conversion in its early stages:


Farm Director Keith Lieppman... "It was really [minor league pitching instructor] Ron Romanick's idea," said Lieppman. "Ron's premise was that we have a good competitive guy who already threw from these angles, and he has the makeup and savvy to give this a shot. A lot of guys are not good candidates for this kind of thing, but Brad has had success, and he's a student of the game and he has a resilient arm."


I think the early returns have been extremely positive. I pitched a few innings in instructional league, and I've faced the hitters at Missouri State a few times so far this spring. However, until I face upper-level pro hitters, I guess I don't really know how it's going to go. I'm also anxious to take on my new role as a full-time reliever - something I've never exclusively done in my career. That stuff is what's got me itching to get down to spring training and get the season going.


* Will you be with the big league ballclub for spring training? -- J Rod

Officially, no. I will be in minor league camp. However, I'm going down early in hopes of an opportunity to dress out with the big league team on a certain day(s) when they are short-handed in the bullpen (for example, split-squad days). I was able to do that one day last year, and while I didn't get to pitch in the game, it was a fun learning experience.


* I was wondering what it's like learning to throw a breaking ball underhand. Spending so much time throughout your career learning how to get just the right spin and arm motion, I imagine it's like trying to learn a whole other language. -- by Joey

Not only is it difficult learning to throw a breaking ball underhand...it's TOTALLY different learning to throw a FASTBALL underhand. Originally, I thought the change would entail just some minor adjustments from my previous sidearm delivery, but I couldn't have been more wrong. It's more of a complete overhaul and re-learning of how to throw a baseball. However, just like anything, the more I do it, the more comfortable it gets. Hopefully, before long, I won't be thinking about the movements my body is supposed to make, and I'll be concentrating 100% on getting hitters out.


* How would you artfully dodge the question, which of your former teammates (Pujols and Howard) really deserved the '06 NL MVP? -- by devo

Both players had tremendous seasons. Had Albert not been hurt in June, it would've been interesting to see how their numbers compared at the end of the year. The Cardinals probably wouldn't have won the division without Pujols. However, everyone had written off the Phillies after they traded Abreu and Lidle. Right about that time, Ryan stepped up his game and helped keep the Phillies in the hunt till the last weekend of the season. Ryan ended up with the MVP, and I'm incredibly happy for him - I felt it was extremely well-deserved. But Albert got the World Series championship, and I bet Ryan would trade the MVP for the title in a heartbeat.


I hope everyone has a great week. Next Monday's installment of "Gettin' Ziggy With It" will be brought to you live from Phoenix, AZ.

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Why Not Both? {g}
You Said: "But Albert got the World Series championship, and I bet Ryan would trade the MVP for the title in a heartbeat."

I was thinking: It would be even cooler to have both a championship and individual MVP honor.  But I suppose most ballplayers want the ring, I know us fans want it for their ballclub, heh.

Thanks for filling us in on details of your change to submarine pitching style.  Maybe you will be the next Chad Bradford {or better}. :)

by Randy Bell on Feb 12, 2007 7:03 AM PST reply actions  

Different Question...
In round one, Blez said you "already lived eight of (your) nine baseball lives" by age 27.

As I approach 30, I'd come to the realization that most of the A's were younger than I was, so it's clearly too late for me to start my own ill-fated minor league career.

Are there career minor leaguers you see who you either admire for sticking with it so long, into their late 20s and early 30s, or conversely, how does a team approach a guy who doesn't appear that he's going to make it? And, barring an immediate callup, how long will you work toward the dream, and what's the fallback option?

There - that's about 4 questions. I've got to imagine it's an incredible journey.

More than just ANtics: http://www.louisgray.com/live/

by louismg on Feb 12, 2007 7:36 AM PST reply actions  

Practice... practice... practice
I guess that's the "name of the game".  Good luck on the relieving position and hope it DOES work into a steady career position.  Just like anything, you won't know until you end up doing it. Thanks for keeping us all updated Brad. :-)
"Hey coach... put me in, I'm ready to play!"

by Yas822 on Feb 12, 2007 7:37 AM PST reply actions  

Congratulations.
You most certainly dodged the third question artfully.
With 21 bombs in his rookie year, look for 42 jacks in '06, and 105 round trippers by 2009. - Baseball-Reference.Com

by NicksDreamy on Feb 12, 2007 8:15 AM PST reply actions  

As a pitching coach who threw sidearm:
I highly recommend that you watch tape of the Old Kent Tekulve.

I Googled him in every way I could imagine and could not find a link for you. I am sure the A's staff has already dug up some video of him, and if not, someone should be SHOT. :) Just kidding.

One thing that I always focused on when throwing sidearm is that I would use my height as leverage to sling the ball down the mountain.

The proper motion causes you to tuck and turn all of your energy back (Creating a fulcrum)and then explode (Uncoil) down the mountain reaching for the plate as opposed to throwing at the darn thing.

This motion actually leaves you in great fielding position.

I use Tekulve as the perfect example because he was very successful for a very long time and had a great health record.

I notice that you and Kent are the same height, 6-4, so that is no doubt an advantage that you already have.

Break a Leg!!! I am sure that you will get a shot in a game this spring, the A's are notorious for getting their projects a look, even if they are not "actually invited" as you well know.

I'll be there from the 8th to 11th...Oh yeah...Your head is the key to your balance..keep it focused!!!

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/

by saint @ Athletics Nation on Feb 12, 2007 8:35 AM PST reply actions  

Also consider Quisenberry
   Dan Quisenberry also slung form the hip and was quite effective.
"I've been accused of using too many words...I suppose that's like accusing Mozart of using too many notes." Bill King

by Gerard on Feb 12, 2007 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Do you have any relatives with roots in the...
Bay Area? I knew a Ziegler family from Lafayette about 20 years ago.
"...sometimes I can't tell the difference between baseball and magic."- salb918 "Ellie plowed into him like an evil, pink unicorn."-ArakSOT

by McFood on Feb 12, 2007 10:18 AM PST reply actions  

from the dept. of the "a"typical
Brad, thanks for taking the time to do this piece.  I'm trying to think of something unusual to ask you without being too off the wall:

Can you tell us something about the part an agent plays in the life of a minor league ball player?

"I didn't really say everything I said." y.berra...who else!

by captainbubblehead on Feb 12, 2007 10:50 AM PST reply actions  

Good one
Brad the Philosopher. Brad the writer. Brad the pitcher. If it wasn't gay, I'd give you a man hug. I am still waiting to see you work in the fastball story. That was classic and priceless. I am almost afraid to get Lasic done now because of it!!!

by ruffriders23 on Feb 12, 2007 10:55 AM PST reply actions  

It's not gay
to give a ballplayer a man-hug.

Come on, you see it on the field all the time.

"...but we're also always open to hearing about other sandwiches if it can make our lunch better." -- Nico, channeling Billy Beane

by iglew on Feb 12, 2007 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

You wouldn't believe...
...the amount of porn you hafta wade through to get to just one ghey butt slap:

The horror.  

Go BLUE!

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Feb 12, 2007 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

He's just "RUNNING IN" The play!
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/

by saint @ Athletics Nation on Feb 12, 2007 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Good stuff, Brad
Glad to see you didn't get overwhelmed with all the questions.  And I was really happy to see that you tossed in an answer to mine.  Thanks.
Zito: I would never bet against this team. First of all because it's against the rules...

by Joey C. on Feb 12, 2007 11:18 AM PST reply actions  

Brad, thanks again for being a part of AN...
Love the updates, and we all wish you the best!

I don't know about anyone else, but I miss having a submariner on the team!

Ho hum. Just another day for the OAKLAND ATHLETICS OF AWESOME! ~Kyli

by baseballgirl on Feb 12, 2007 2:20 PM PST reply actions  

yeah, what she said!
Good luck at Spring Training!
"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King

by batgirl on Feb 12, 2007 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

thanks again Brad
I am looking forward to following your career.  Hope to see you in Oakland soon.  

by mikedaviswhereareyou on Feb 12, 2007 2:58 PM PST reply actions  

You're very cool, Zman.
It'd be very cool if you can be the first submariner to master a knuckleball. I'm mean you'd probably have to have the grip of an octopus. So, if you can throw the octopus you'd be the talk of the town. Just trying to help out. And, when you get rich and famous you can treat me out to dinner.

by Salvatore on Feb 12, 2007 9:08 PM PST reply actions  

Ha ha, I'll bet some people
actually believe that Brad is real!

-Cindi.

P.S. You and I have something in common: We both throw underhand.  :-}

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Feb 12, 2007 9:46 PM PST reply actions  

Cindi is Rick Barry?
I got tired of my last signature. Quick, somebody inspire me.

by Poppy on Feb 13, 2007 6:29 AM PST up reply actions  

And I was
just thinking, Nico,  that this was one of your practical jokes.

by Salvatore on Feb 12, 2007 9:51 PM PST reply actions  

It is. Check the A's media guide.
There's never been a Brad Ziegler. The A's have never drafted, signed, or pitched any guy named Brad Ziegler. Seriously.

Oh, I should mention that I haven't actually finished reading the media guide, so if his name appears near the end or something...

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Feb 12, 2007 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

That's Actually a Relief ..
.. 'cause it didn't sound like Ol' Ziggy had any chance to make it to the majors and I was beginning to feel a lil sorry for this fictitious person {g} ..

by Randy Bell on Feb 13, 2007 4:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Son-of-a-gun...
You had us all fooled.  Brad Ziegler...Haha, good one.

by Salvatore on Feb 12, 2007 10:07 PM PST reply actions  

The college
math degree should have given that away.

by Salvatore on Feb 12, 2007 10:11 PM PST reply actions  

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