A's Pitcher Kirk Saarloos Traded to the Reds
[editor's note, by louismg]Shortly after signing Kirk Saarloos to a one year deal, avoiding arbitration, the team traded him to the Reds today, in exchange for minor league relief pitcher David Shafer.
Yahoo! Sports | Official A's Press Release
Original diary content from oak1 below...
MLB radio reported that Kirk Saarloos has been traded to the Reds for minor league relief pitcher David Shafer and a player to be named later.
Saarloos is making an appearance on MLB radio later on today.
Shafer is a minor league AA pitcher with a 2.60 ERA and 26 saves.
This move comes out of the blue and solidifies Joe Kennedy's spot in the rotation though Halsey, Windsor et al will probably be on call anyway. I wonder whether Billy got market value for the trade given how much starting pitching has been selling for recently. Comments?
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Shafer
Shafer, 25, was 1-2 with a 2.36 ERA (13er in 49.2ip) with 26 saves in 44 appearances for Double-A Chattanooga last season. He struck out 52 batters in his 49.2 innings of work, issued just 16 walks, allowed just two home runs and limited hitters to a .204 batting average. His 26 saves were tied for second in the Southern League. Over the past two seasons, he has limited hitters to a .207 average (77-207). Originally selected in the 32nd round of the 2001 First-Year Player Draft, Shafer has posted a 14-16 record and a 2.59 ERA (71er in 246.1ip) to go along with 63 saves in 169 minor league appearances, including seven career starts. He has struck out 269 batters in his 246.1 innings of work while walking 74 batters and limiting opponents to a .219 (200-915) batting average. A native of Flagstaff, Ariz., Shafer attended Central Arizona Community College. He will be placed on Oakland's 40-man roster.
by OaklandA23 on Jan 23, 2007 12:30 PM PST 0 recs
Link
by Poppy on Jan 23, 2007 12:33 PM PST 0 recs
Not surprising
by BlameChannel53 on Jan 23, 2007 12:36 PM PST 0 recs
should be "2006 showed"
by BlameChannel53 on
Jan 23, 2007 12:36 PM PST
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You put it best.
Simply no need to pay him too much money.
Now, all we need is a first basemen who will hit 45-50 homeruns and we're set.
by nfadil4 on Jan 23, 2007 12:39 PM PST 0 recs
Scouting report: BA 2006
88-92 FB, average SL, average CH.
BA ranked him as the 26th best prospect in Cincy's system. (This was back in 2006, remember.)
Bit of a flyball pitcher but he's been able to avoid the HR.
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/S/David-Shafer.shtml
by grover on Jan 23, 2007 12:43 PM PST 0 recs
Anyone think
by mikeA on Jan 23, 2007 12:44 PM PST 0 recs
my theory
by xbhaskarx on
Jan 23, 2007 12:46 PM PST
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Heck, who needs fielders
by Flyin As on
Jan 23, 2007 12:51 PM PST
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unless we bring back Canseco...
by Cutthemullet on
Jan 23, 2007 8:16 PM PST
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the thought crossed my mind too...
of spring training with Kennedy and the
others.
the A's were carrying one too many a pitcher
on the 25-man and a trade was inevitable.
by oak1 on
Jan 23, 2007 12:49 PM PST
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with so many question marks in the rotation
by xbhaskarx on
Jan 23, 2007 1:08 PM PST
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I hope they
by mikeA on
Jan 23, 2007 1:09 PM PST
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i hope they have SOME confidence in windsor
i bet he could be a decent fifth starter if he gets the chance. as much as i like saarloos and dislike windsor's anthony reyes style hat, he'd probably be better than saarloos.
by xbhaskarx on
Jan 23, 2007 1:22 PM PST
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lol...
As an aside, the best hats that I can think of belong to two relievers, one current and one former: Mike Timlin and John Wetteland. Those things are/were never, ever replaced. Guerrero's batting helmet is the hitter's equivalent. I'm sure it's easy to apply some foreign substances onto hats like that...maybe Julian Tavarez and Brandon Donnelley should have looked into it. Tavarez...that dude's hat had a pretty flat brim too, if I remember.
After all this focus on hat brims, the distinctive feature of the hats of Windsor and Reyes is probably something completely different...like, pulling the hat down low over his eyes or something. I need to be informed here...if Windsor repeats his 2006 MLB performance in 2007, his hat preference may be all he's remembered for.
by Cutthemullet on
Jan 23, 2007 8:04 PM PST
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flat brim
go a google image search.
by xbhaskarx on
Jan 24, 2007 8:46 AM PST
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I have loads od confidence in him.
by Ozzz on
Jan 23, 2007 1:22 PM PST
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back in the day for the Buffalo Bisons...
Have you ever heard of Joe Roa?
by Cutthemullet on
Jan 23, 2007 8:19 PM PST
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I'm not talking 'ever'.
by Ozzz on
Jan 23, 2007 9:46 PM PST
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I know...
by Cutthemullet on
Jan 23, 2007 9:59 PM PST
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Fair point. However...
by Ozzz on
Jan 23, 2007 11:21 PM PST
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And its not as if his other numbers...
by SuperBean on
Jan 23, 2007 11:50 PM PST
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was that a warm evening in
by ak_A on
Jan 23, 2007 7:48 PM PST
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huh?
by Cutthemullet on
Jan 23, 2007 8:21 PM PST
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windsor, big league debut in baltimore?
by ak_A on
Jan 23, 2007 8:34 PM PST
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ah, ok
by Cutthemullet on
Jan 23, 2007 10:03 PM PST
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my life is such, that i can remember
by ak_A on
Jan 24, 2007 7:23 PM PST
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That...
Saarloos posted a 4.88 ERA and a 1.74 WHIP as a SP last year, if you thought he got lucky in 2005 he must have sold his soul to Satan last year.
by grover on
Jan 23, 2007 1:11 PM PST
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if they keep track of a DP/IP stat
by Cutthemullet on
Jan 23, 2007 8:07 PM PST
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it also means
by xbhaskarx on
Jan 23, 2007 3:09 PM PST
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first time i've ever done this
by Cutthemullet on
Jan 23, 2007 8:09 PM PST
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I sure hope it does...
But, I still think we should trade a higher-end bullpen guy (ahem, Street)...look what Mike Gonzalez can net. Then Gaudin could close.
One more thing: is "that Dunn guy" going to even have a shot at making the MLB roster and thus affect Gaudin's status, even with Los Kirk gone? He's AAA filler, no?
by Cutthemullet on
Jan 23, 2007 8:14 PM PST
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Saarloos in the NL
With the pitching market what it is, I wonder
if the A's got back enough for Saarloos?
I hope Shafer is good, or else this trade
definitely looks better for the Reds in the
short term.
by oak1 on Jan 23, 2007 12:54 PM PST 0 recs
No
by BlameChannel53 on
Jan 23, 2007 1:00 PM PST
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he's underestimated
when they were the best team down the
stretch. Saarloos pitched a really good
game befuddling Hafner, Sizemore, Martinez,
Peralta and Crisp when these guys were all
in a groove. When he's on, he is pretty good
and really effective just doesnt blow you away
with a fastball.
by oak1 on
Jan 23, 2007 1:05 PM PST
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Yes
by BlameChannel53 on
Jan 23, 2007 1:07 PM PST
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one example
as a starter over the last 2 years.
by oak1 on
Jan 23, 2007 1:10 PM PST
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almost every MLB starting pitcher
i guess they're all middle of the rotation starters in the NL. wait, the NL sucks, that might actually be true...
by xbhaskarx on
Jan 23, 2007 1:13 PM PST
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Jeff Weaver
and couldnt win a game to save his life.
Becomes a match winner for the Cards and
a steady middle of the rotation in the NL!
Couldnt resist that one at the expense of the
Halos:)
by oak1 on
Jan 23, 2007 1:29 PM PST
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Sorry, but Weaver...
2006 Angels: 88 2/3IP, 114H, 21BB, 62K, 18HR, 1.52WHIP, 6.29ERA
2006 Cards: 83 1/3IP, 99H, 26BB, 45K, 16HR, 1.50WHIP, 5.19ERA
Pretty much all of his peripherals are worse(lower K/9 and higher BB/9), but his BABIP was a bit lower. Otherwise, he was the same crappy pitcher.
I think this trade is a nice deal, not a steal but I think it should help strengthen the pen. PECOTA already has Shafer posting better numbers than Loos next year, while 3 years younger and now a bit cheaper.
by SuperBean on
Jan 23, 2007 1:44 PM PST
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We can drop our SPs with two more RPs!
by Billy Ball 2005 on
Jan 23, 2007 1:53 PM PST
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I was having a little fun with you
by BlameChannel53 on
Jan 23, 2007 1:14 PM PST
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Haren's got to be pissed
by Cutthemullet on
Jan 23, 2007 8:41 PM PST
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He'll always find work.
by Ozzz on
Jan 23, 2007 11:23 PM PST
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but...
as well especially last year. I dont think he
was handled well last year being messsed around
between the starters role and bullpen duty
consistently.
i think he notched up a save and a win in the
same week last season.
saarloos was a battler and an underdog; one
of the misfits and an important part of
the puzzle with the a's.
by oak1 on
Jan 23, 2007 1:15 PM PST
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yeah...
by Cutthemullet on
Jan 23, 2007 8:43 PM PST
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Hard-hittin' Mark Whitten!
He's the one guy who you know not only will he have his pitcher throw at a guy's head, but he'll be first off the bench swinging if the kid charges the mound.
by Ozzz on
Jan 23, 2007 1:24 PM PST
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once again, *Whiten
NW League the league you cover?
by Cutthemullet on
Jan 23, 2007 8:32 PM PST
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I prefer Whitten...
Whiten's an utter tool. He's the kind of guy that, when the Vancouver Canadians had a car dealership sponsor a between the innings promo, he actually kicked dirt at the prize car as it rolled by because it 'got in his way'.
Yeah, I'm an NWL guy. Here's hoping the much-anticipated end of the Arizona League comes so I can get an extra month of short season ball when it merges with the northern stuff.
by Ozzz on
Jan 23, 2007 9:49 PM PST
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heh
by Cutthemullet on
Jan 24, 2007 1:38 AM PST
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No no.
It's a pretty common term in steroid circles, but of course those who are quick to judge decided I was a racist and had to be announced as such - every. time. I posted.
by Ozzz on
Jan 24, 2007 10:42 AM PST
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Stubborn much?
by FreeSeatUpgrade on
Jan 24, 2007 11:08 AM PST
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Here we go again.
But you know this, and don't care. Which, really, reflects more poorly on you than me, since you're the one who can't hear the word 'monkey' without thinking, "black man".
by Ozzz on
Jan 25, 2007 10:51 AM PST
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i think you're both bigots
by xbhaskarx on
Jan 25, 2007 11:33 AM PST
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WTF?
by FreeSeatUpgrade on
Jan 25, 2007 12:16 PM PST
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I think you left
by mikeA on
Jan 25, 2007 12:23 PM PST
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that's it, you're going on the bigot list
by xbhaskarx on
Jan 25, 2007 12:48 PM PST
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I hope you don't eat 'Indian food'.
Monkeyball should really change his name. I mean, heck, doesn't he know it's a historically offensive term?
I do enjoy the irony of you finally understanding what it feels like for someone to insinuate something about you on the basis of nada, however.
by Ozzz on
Jan 25, 2007 3:28 PM PST
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tuffy rhodes
by vk on
Jan 23, 2007 1:58 PM PST
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*Whiten
I remember seeing him in his short stint with the M's sitting in the CF bleachers at Fenway, playing LF with Griffey playing CF and Buhner in RF...with A-Rod at SS and Edgar at DH, that was a fun lineup to watch. Whiten hit one out that day over the monster, Griffey did the same, and A-Rod hit one to dead center not far from where we were. I don't even remember who won, but it was an entertaining game.
by Cutthemullet on
Jan 23, 2007 8:30 PM PST
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I can see where one would confuse the spelling...
by Cutthemullet on
Jan 23, 2007 8:36 PM PST
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why go all the way back to 2005
by xbhaskarx on
Jan 23, 2007 1:11 PM PST
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What if the PTBNL is Adam Dunn?
by grover on
Jan 23, 2007 1:15 PM PST
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i'd be happy
by oak1 on
Jan 23, 2007 1:21 PM PST
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in that case i'd trade saarloos
by xbhaskarx on
Jan 23, 2007 1:23 PM PST
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Shafer & Dunn
Saarloos and Perez?
by Billy Ball 2005 on
Jan 23, 2007 1:28 PM PST
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depends on the heart rate
by Cutthemullet on
Jan 23, 2007 8:44 PM PST
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one thing Saarloos could do...
by Cutthemullet on
Jan 23, 2007 8:23 PM PST
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two things
- Crisp excepted, Red Sox last year/this year...
- Maybe that track record against the Indians was a driving force for Krivsky (Reds' GM) to do this trade; the Tribe is the interleague rival of the Reds.
by Cutthemullet on
Jan 23, 2007 8:24 PM PST
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They don't call that park...
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