Billy Beane Visits Athletics Nation - July 2006 Edition Part I
Everything hasn't been rosy in Athletics Nation of late. The team is in first place at the All Star break, but many fans think that is a temporary situation. There's been a lot of finger pointing in AN; at Billy Beane, at Ken Macha and at the moribund offense.
So what better time to get Beane's input on the team and 2006 so far. Topics on our mind are everything from that awful offense to whether or not to trade Barry Zito as the July 31st trading deadline approaches.
Does this team need external help or is the answer in the A's clubhouse? Read on and find out (note - this interview happened on July 6th, so a few topics weren't addressed like the Zito signing with Boras issue):
Blez: I want to start on something general, how do you feel about 2006 so far?
Billy Beane: I guess the ends justify the means, but it's been challenging up to this point. It's going to sound like Groundhog Day up until this point when we had bad injuries last year, but this year has been unbelievable. It's something I don't think any of us could've comprehended. In some respects, having gone through it last year gives us a little levity. This year has been terrible. We did try to somewhat prepare for worst-case scenario, but let me invent a word here, this is worster-case scenario. But these guys are pretty battle tough with Mach (Ken Macha) and the coaching staff and I think that previous years have given us a little bit of understanding that if we can keep our noses above water we'll be OK.
Blez: I'm wondering if someone, perhaps a competiting GM, put Greg Brady's tiki idol underneath your bed?
Beane: (laughs) Tyler, it's just been unbelievable. Nothing really surprises us anymore.
Blez: You're already had to use the DL more this season than all of last season.
Beane: And the other thing that sort of isn't known, and this is one of the perils of being in a smaller market, there have been plenty of times when we should've or could've put someone on the DL but didn't because we didn't want to lose them for fifteen days if we could make the choice to only lose them for eight days or 10 days. Huston (Street) should've been on the DL earlier in the season which was one case. Duke (Justin Duchscherer) probably should've been on earlier than we put him on. (Joe) Kennedy was the same way. As much as we've used it, it doesn't tell the whole story. Bobby Kielty was unavailable. Chavy (Eric Chavez) when he was sick for a week. It (using the DL example) doesn't give a true indication of how much these guys have truly been banged up.
Blez: I like to give you an open forum to respond to critics, and some have said that you were asking for trouble by getting players like Milton Bradley and Frank Thomas who are players that have injury histories. Frank has largely been healthy and I assume that he probably wouldn't have gone on the DL had interleague not been on the schedule, but Milton has only played in 28 games so far this year. Could you have seen this coming and is that why you stockpiled depth?
Beane: Well, with Milton we were certainly aware of his injury history and that's one of the risks you take. The other risk with Frank is that at his age, he's going to miss some games. The other option was doing nothing. In Milton's case, it's been frustrating, but it's something we knew was a part of his history. Then again, I think it was something we were willing to take on. You can't do something with a constant fear of the worst happening, you just deal with it when it happens. With Frank, the response might be that we shouldn't have signed him, but we wouldn't have those 18 home runs. Inaction is a far greater danger than action in this marketplace and taking the chance that you could face some of the things that could possibly happen. We could sit here in our marketplace and do nothing but draft and develop, but we wouldn't win a lot very consistently. We might be cute for a while, but we wouldn't win.
Blez: Then by the time they got good, they'd leave.
Beane: They would end up somewhere else. People start saying, and it even happens internally, "Well, what are they going to do with all their outfielders?" They said this quite a bit during spring training. And I did hear it internally with people asking what we were going to do with all these guys. At some point you're going to need Bobby Kielty, you're going to need Jay Payton because Milton has been out for a while. That's one of the reasons we held onto them because there has been an injury history.
Blez: Are you surprised at how quickly Andre Ethier is picking things up?
Beane: Certainly, yeah. There was no mystery about his talent and he's certainly made an impact in his first year. We expected him to have to spend at least another season at Triple-A. But he's shown himself to be more than ready since he was called up.
Blez: Not only that, but often times young players like him come up and excel at the beginning in the first go-around through the league, but once they learn your holes, they attack them and challenge them. A perfect example would be Dan Johnson last season.
Beane: Yeah, yeah. That does happen, no question. But it wasn't like we didn't think Andre wasn't going to be a good player. The idea of a trade isn't zero sum. I think some GMs out there get that and there's some who don't. In my opinion, the art of the deal is to improve your team and try and be better. It isn't to make that trade to try and not give up anything and get something. If you take that approach, every once in a while that will happen where you'll get something good and you won't give anything up, but you won't make a lot of trades.
Blez: So you don't view trades as wins and losses?
Beane: No, we don't do it that way and we never have. We've always championed the fact that we're not afraid to give up players when we're trying to get something. I think when you start to look at things that way, you aren't going to make a lot of deals.
Blez: Have the A's just been fortunate that the AL West has been the NL West of 2005 this year?
Beane: I think we've been fortunate that each team in our division has been kind of clumped together. That's not necessarily because the division is weak, it's because our league is strong. For example, take the Mariners who took advantage of Interleague to vault themselves into the middle of it. This is an incredibly competitive league. The Angels have had Colon out and have lost some players, but they're not going to go away because their pitching is phenomenal. In some ways, it's only going to get stronger.
Blez: In some ways, that's going to help them too because they had a chance to see Jered Weaver while Colon was out.
Beane: Oh yeah. I will say this, everyone thought the Central was going to be a good division coming in and it's turned out to be a great division with the emergence of some of the young players in Detroit combined with some of the veterans they had. I also think the AL West's best days always seem to be in the second half.
Blez: Do you expect that (the teams to be better in the second half) to happen again?
Beane: Yeah, I think as long as they remain healthy, things won't change significantly over the course of the season. This division is going to be competitive and it's going to be four deep.
Blez: Do you think this team will be close to 100 percent healthy post-All Star break?
Beane: Oh man. You know I think, we should see...Joe Kennedy is doing well. Justin Duchscherer I already mentioned, but he's still working himself back in. But he is active. Milton is doing great and should go back on rehab this weekend, which is good.
Blez: He going down to Sacramento?
Beane: He will start in Sacramento, I believe, on Friday. Rich (Harden) is the only guy we don't have a timetable for. Obviously he's incredibly important but he is improving. We can't pinpoint when he's going to be back and it certainly won't be right after the All Star break. He's a ways from that.
Blez: Have you been happy with what you've gotten from Frank Thomas?
Beane: Oh yeah, he's been great and he's just gotten better and better. The shame about him missing that interleague time with the leg muscle (problem) is that he was just starting to roll. He's quickly showed what he's been worth to us this past weekend when he was the sole creator of any offense we generated.
Blez: Speaking of health, there have been reports that Eric Chavez has three or four separate nagging injuries. Do you think there's a chance he might be DL'ed or is he just going to try and play through them?
Beane: Right now, the DL isn't something we're considering. We have the All Star break which is good. But he's had nagging things all year. One thing about Eric is that he wants to play. He's one of those guys who over the years if he has injuries, he heals pretty quickly and even if he's at 60 or 70 percent he'll go out there. He's been struggling with the hamstring and had forearm issues. He also got terribly ill in Toronto, so it's been an uphill climb for him health-wise since then. But the fact of the matter is that Eric isn't a guy of a whole lot of words, but he's a man of actions. He knows how important he is to the team. People have a tendency of expecting too much from Eric and they don't understand how valuable this guy is on defense and what his presence means to the middle of the lineup. But they don't know that he's going out there when a lot of others guys would just back off and not play.
Blez: Do you suspect that the injuries are why his numbers have gone down so much in June?
Beane: Right now, yeah. No question. Like I said, that's the type of case where a guy could cover himself personally with the injuries and things he's had and eliminate a lot of criticism, but Eric's been going out there at times when he probably many times, shouldn't have.
Blez: Is that an evolutionary step in the maturation process of a player like Chavez? You know the fact that he's going out there with so many separate injuries.
Beane: Even as a young player, I remember when he had plantar fasciitis, you know the foot tissue issue that McGwire had several years ago. That's normally a four-to-six week recovery timetable and he was back in like 10 days. Even when he broke his hand and got hit by the pitch (by Damaso Marte), the doctors will always tell you four-to-six weeks and you always expect six-to-eight. Eric was back almost six weeks to the day, playing in a game. He's always been quick to heal in one sense and he's quick to return in that if he feels he can go out there, he will. That's always been a part of Eric that people don't know. Once again, Eric is not an emotional guy on the field and people want that because it will help satisfy their own emotions, but it's a little bit unfair because he really exemplifies what a leader should be. He walks the walk. He doesn't lead with his mouth, but it's the actions and the attitude he takes.
Blez: I assume you probably have theories as to why the offense has struggled to score runs this year. What do you think has happened?
Beane: I certainly don't have any answers. The inconsistencies in our ability to put the same lineup out has hurt and that's due in some cases to injury. There's been times where we've had enough of our regular players back and I don't think anyone really has the answer. For some reason, we've always been a hot and cold team. If anybody had the solution, the players, coaches or myself, we would've implemented it already. I think we're the third youngest team in the big leagues and if you take Frank out of the mix, we're the second youngest. So you still have to take into account the fact that young players...
Blez: Are gonna have their big ups and downs?
Beane: Yeah. I think that if some people heard that, they'd be surprised that we have that young of a team because in many circles we were the favorite to win the division. That's the balance between having players like Crosby who people perceive as a veteran, but Bobby has had a lot of injuries and he's still a young player. Swish is in his second year. Dan Johnson is in his second year. You have to understand that's part of their maturation. I'd rather have a young team than an old team, at least certainly in this marketplace. We just have to bite our lips and be patient when they're struggling and enjoy it when they're going well.
Blez: Do you think the team needs some outside help or do you think the answer is internal?
Beane: We get close to July, there's always trade talk. That's something everyone in the big leagues is talking about. But we need to get healthy. I think until we get healthy it's hard to evaluate. That's the way we're looking at it right now. I'm not necessarily going to go out and look for a guy to replace a young player just for temporary satisfaction. I think getting healthy will help everyone's outlook and self esteem too.
Blez: I wouldn't suggest that the A's changed philosophy, but it seems lately that Ken Macha has been more aggressive on the basepaths, Crosby has stolen some bases and the team seems to use the hit and run a little more. Is it a matter of just being smart when you make those kinds of adjustments?
Beane: If you look at when we did it, we did it against a club who had thrown something like four our of 90 runners out (Padres). I think from Kenny's view it's that we've never said don't steal. If you've got an 89 percent chance of making it, then everyone should be going. We were playing against a club who had trouble throwing runners out and we took advantage of it, it's that simple. Everything is sort of on a case-by-case basis.
The final installment of my interview with Beane will run on Wednesday and topics covered include whether or not Zito becomes untradeable with Harden's injury problems and what Billy thinks of the current state of the A's farm system. We also have a discussion about the World Cup to close out the interview. I'll feature an open game thread tomorrow for those of you who want to comment on the All Star game.
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by savage on Jul 10, 2006 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
'the other thing that sort of isn't known'
So, does "this is one of the perils of being in a smaller market" translate into "If a guy's salary is over $2M, he ain't goin' on the DL, no matter how awful his on-field performance is, and no matter how big a risk of long-term injury his playing through pain is?"
by monkeyball on Jul 10, 2006 12:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sure seems to.
Of course, I also think if he'd been told to have his shoulder surgery pre-season, and not allowed to just wing it for another year, he'd be even more of a threat.
But that's just me.
Small market club or not, I think it's safe to assume that management decisions are contributing to this injury mess.
by Ozzz on Jul 10, 2006 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can sympathize with Chavvy's decision ...
But given the organization's extreme reluctance to put their players under the knife, the fact that they wanted Chavvy to get the surgery should have spoken volumes about the necessity.
Now, whether compensating for the shoulder problem led to all the other physical problems, who knows.
by monkeyball on Jul 10, 2006 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, what the hell is Beane saying
That if you're hurt and you play for a small market club, by rule you have to continue playing no matter what.
What the hell does "small market" have to do with that decision? Is he implying that if he were a Yankee they'd plug in their all-star who's just sitting the bench? They'd plug in Miguel Cairo. What does small market have to with it?
The truth is, Beane is almost pathological in his use of the term. It covers every single flaw the team has, every move he makes. So, for him it even somehow dictates the decision of whether or not to DL Chavy.
And also, is Beane kidding himself--or just bullshitting us--when he says that Chavy has been providing a presence in the lineup. How many homeruns has his presence hit? How many runs has it driven in? What's its average?
I have to say, the stuff about Chavez make Beane seem like he thinks he can just spout off any crap and we'll buy it.
by RLangford on Jul 10, 2006 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
to give Beane the benefit of the doubt ...
by monkeyball on Jul 10, 2006 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Employee #3 is BB's
For the millionth time, small market has nothing to do with affording players when your owner is in Forbes' top 200.
by southofcruiseamerica on Jul 10, 2006 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point re Billy-Chavvy
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jul 10, 2006 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
as always fantastic job Blez
by china bob on Jul 10, 2006 12:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Worcestershire case scenario!
by Poppy on Jul 10, 2006 12:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn't we all see this coming?
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 10, 2006 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing is, they're not that young
But on offense, what we're seeing now is not far from what we should expect them to do for the next few years. Given how little they've advanced this year, how much better can we expect Crosby and Johnson, in particular, to get? And if Swisher's slump is a long-term concern, if Chavez is fated to be a good, not great, player, if the farm system can't produce a star hitter, well, add it all up and none of this is exactly a reason to jump up and down, which is cool, since it would look ridiculous of me to do so in a coffee shop.
by Gitz on Jul 10, 2006 12:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
<snerk>
by Jennifer on Jul 10, 2006 12:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
P.S. Billy talking about Chavy...
Great stuff. Thanks for everything you do, Blez.
by Jennifer on Jul 10, 2006 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, gee yeah, he's such a gamer
by RLangford on Jul 10, 2006 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love AN.
by Jennifer on Jul 10, 2006 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Player to Billy...
Billy: "Yeah, and I liked it."
by Sharon on Jul 10, 2006 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Thank you, sir! May I have another?"
by Jennifer on Jul 10, 2006 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
--Huston Street
by Sharon on Jul 10, 2006 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was my favorite quote too!
by Deanna on Jul 10, 2006 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice interview
It's not normal to be running out gimps in the lineup on a daily basis, so I would lay off hating on the offense until Kotsay and Chavez heal up. I've been saying it's no surprise that Swisher got dragged down with them the past few weeks since they are his immediate lineup protection, so we've pretty much gotten nothing the top of the order lately. IMO this is why we look especially bad lately, besides the pitchers we ran into.
I don't know if it's going to get any better though because of this ridiculous refusal to DL Chavez already. Yeah I'll agree with BB's contention that you can't just DL people off the cuff, but weren't all those offseason moves made specifically with depth in mind? What was the point of acquiring Perez if he's just going to rot on the bench so Chavez can go play and prove his 'maturity as a leader'. No, if I wanted to see a demonstration of leadership, I'd go attend a seminar on it.
Also, I don't like BB's thoughts on the 'art of making a deal'. This is just one example of course, but Chuck LaMar was notorious for being impossible to deal with. However, the one deal he did make was acquiring Kazmir for the wrong Zambrano. Compare that to the mishmash of deals BB has made over the past few years. Again it's just one example, but it's something to think about.
by znk916 on Jul 10, 2006 12:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Addendum
by znk916 on Jul 10, 2006 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"The Wrong Zambrano"
by monkeyball on Jul 10, 2006 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's nothing wrong with Beane's deals.
Bar a handful (of many), he's been notorious for scamming other GMs.
by Ozzz on Jul 10, 2006 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh?
Mishmash was probably the wrong word to use, but I was just trying to point out how one good deal can potentially outweigh the benefits of many deals, good bad etc. In other words, many paths to one destination. I'm just worried that he's more focused on quantity rather than quality because of how often he harps on the need to be active as a small-market team. There is a nice reply lower down by rebus about how sometimes the hardest thing to do is to sit tight and hold onto your assets.
Lastly, I'm not sure where this notion that BB scammed other GM's is coming from. I know he pulled of a string of deadline deals for a few years, but that in itself doesn't really mean anything. Sure we didn't give up all that much but for all the rumors that fly around, that's pretty much the case for most deadline deals because the buyers usually have the leverage. Secondly, almost all of those deals turned into half-year rentals.
Again I don't think BB has made any really awful deals but imo it's unwarranted hype if there is this notion that he's notorious for scamming other GM's. On a lighter note, it's hard not to look good trading with GM's like Steve Phillips and Allard Baird. 
by znk916 on Jul 10, 2006 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The team has the subjective elements
by alox on Jul 10, 2006 1:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
alox and me, twin brothers from different mothers
Sometimes I think it's the combination of being young and rich and in California with the perfect weather, pretty girls all over them, no hardships other than what bottle of thousand-dollar vodka to sample. The easy mindset doesn't lead to the hardscrabble discipline it takes to make the adjustments that alox speaks of... of provoking the other team into playing into your plans for any given situation, and then when they clue into what you're doing, changing up the groove on them again.
You watch Pujols hit, man, that guy is making these kind of adjustments WITHIN AT-BATS, not just game-to-game or series-to-series. Just striving like a motherfucker to get better and better, that's why no one can get the guy out, he's like a man possessed and his mind-body synergy is just the toppermost of the toppermost every day.
Our guys, lovable moppets as they may be on a team very hard NOT to root for, sometimes come off like they want the shit to be easy and effortless, which succeeding at the highest levels of athletic competition NEVER is no matter what the game, because the dudes or ladies you are playing against are always trying to will themselves to do whatever it takes to beat your ass 'cos you stand in their way as THEY try to be the best. It's intense shit and it's a wonder more guys don't go all Zidane and just start beating on the other team (I guess Kendall does sometimes but overall our boys seem to lack that kind of fire).
The fact that Billy had to ban boozing up the clubhouse speaks volumes to the lack of the necessary focus and discipline in what is, at the end of the day, a workplace. If we ever want to see our guys get with these badass, stacked teams like the Sox (both) and the Tigers (think Leyland would be standing for this shit?) and the Yankees, they have got to raise their collective awareness of the discipline it takes to get to that level.
Someone I admire a lot said that Discipline should always be a means to an end and never an end in itself, which I agree with not being a big heavy taskmaster-for-taskmaster's sake myself... but eventually you have to draw the line and get motivated if you're ever gonna be more than an underachieving also-ran. This team has a tremendous amount of energy and attention and scientific analysis going for it, as much if not more than any other team... but what's lacking on the field clearly has to do with the D word.
by emperor nobody on Jul 10, 2006 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol.....damn, dad is a rotten bastard sometimes.
by alox on Jul 10, 2006 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Discipline...and real Confidence
Reference was made to Pujols, and others who strive to be the best - Albert Pujols has worked on his game to a point where he is absolutely confident in his abilities. Young teams require a push to have the discipline to repeat successful behavior, which breeds confidence...which fulfills the continuum to more disciplined behavior. It's a cycle that our young boys just haven't found yet.
That's hard for me to say as a young guy who refuses to knock these kids for having a good time at this point in their lives...but if repeatable success is what they're after, that requires disciplined effort while working at the game. Come to the park, bust your ass to get better and stay that way, encourage your buddies to do the same...and then go crack a few(teen) open after the win.
by Mike Gallego is my Hero on Jul 11, 2006 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did u ask him about beer in the clubhouse?
by Bud Light on Jul 10, 2006 1:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
lol.....personal affront???
by alox on Jul 10, 2006 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
McFood or Ice Cream in the clubhouse?
by monkeyball on Jul 10, 2006 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll never tell...
And no girls allowed. They've got cooties.
by McFood on Jul 10, 2006 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey... I understand...
by Poppy on Jul 10, 2006 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
cardiorespiratory arrest
by monkeyball on Jul 10, 2006 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No but I did ask him
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 10, 2006 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you lived to tell about it?!?!?
by Jennifer on Jul 10, 2006 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barely
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 10, 2006 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should have borrowed
by Jennifer on Jul 10, 2006 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I refuse to click on that.
by Ozzz on Jul 10, 2006 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Swisher/Slusser incident?
by greendatitiz on Jul 10, 2006 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Short Version
Swisher apparently sulked in the clubhouse in response to the piece.
Slusser stood by her reporting, not only because it was true, but because she felt that it was necessary to call attention to a potential problem for Swish and the team.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Jul 11, 2006 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Blez....
by OaktownPower on Jul 10, 2006 1:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I'm off base with the rest of AN,
by alox on Jul 10, 2006 1:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They are public figures
by OaktownPower on Jul 10, 2006 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bollocks to that.
What about if he beats his wife?
Or bets on games?
Or turns up drunk?
Everything about a player's personal life is fair game, because they get paid to put bums on seats, and if we're going to be spending money watching them, we need to know who we're watching.
The day Slusser's love life sells newspapers, is the day it'll be in every damn paper.
by Ozzz on Jul 10, 2006 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what you're both saying....
by alox on Jul 10, 2006 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard
Just a rumor...
by emperor nobody on Jul 10, 2006 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Her stories are kinda bulging
by alox on Jul 10, 2006 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
PUBLIC FIGURES
ANYONE who seeks acclaim for what they do - whose efforts have at their core an appeal to the public at large - is a public figure, and the right of free speech -- THE RIGHT to report and comment upon those who profit from the acclaim they seek -- THIS RIGHT outweighs the privacy concerns of those seeking and profiteering from their position in front of the public at large.
by RevHalofan on Jul 10, 2006 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
<snoops on the Rev's late-night habits>
by monkeyball on Jul 10, 2006 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me guess, Monkeyball:
by Nico on Jul 10, 2006 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good God man.....
by alox on Jul 10, 2006 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that said
by emperor nobody on Jul 10, 2006 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are those Halo's.....
by alox on Jul 10, 2006 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting take by Beane
I also wonder about his attitude toward the DL. This might not be the case, but it seems like the A's approach lends itself to injuries spiraling out of control. Their resistance to using the DL is detrimental to current players as well as the younger prospects, who might get the opportunity to impress the club if brought up.
by rebus on Jul 10, 2006 1:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Worthy of Pravda
characteristics and they're gone.
P.S. From the espn site about the A's today: Great news about Bradley, bad news about Harden:
RF Milton Bradley felt fine a day after his successful rehab outing with Triple-A Sacramento at Salt Lake. He went 4-for-6 with two homers, six RBIs and three runs scored. ``Milton's health was 100 percent,'' trainer Larry Davis said. ``Milton said he felt perfect.'' He could be activated during the team's first series after the break, which begins Thursday at Boston. ... LHP Joe Kennedy, sidelined since May 21 with tendinitis in his shoulder, postponed the simulated game he was scheduled to pitch for a second time after also telling the team he wasn't ready Friday. ``To me it's going to be a dead issue until he gets into a throwing program,'' manager Ken Macha said. ``I consider him a nonentity at this particular time.'' He will join Triple-A Sacramento after the All-Star break to continue his rehab. ... Macha also called star RHP Rich Harden, on the DL for a second time this year with a right elbow injury, a nonentity and said there's a chance the pitcher could be out the remainder of the year. While Harden said he hopes to be throwing again after the All-Star break, Macha wouldn't speculate on a timeline. ``He might not throw for the rest of the year, but I hope that's not the case,'' Macha said.
by solotar on Jul 10, 2006 1:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Harden's injury report
I have tried to think of him as already out for the year with the hope that I'm going to be wrong later. Even if he comes back, I won't feel confident that he will stick around.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 10, 2006 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A's at All Star Break- Chavez
Giving up the 3rd spot in the order kills every game and rally.
by Morada Mudshark on Jul 10, 2006 2:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Kendall leadoff?
by rebus on Jul 10, 2006 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cuz no one else is hitting well either...
by OaktownPower on Jul 10, 2006 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wondered about this as well...
Great interview, btw.
by coffee roaster on Jul 10, 2006 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch...
Thanks, Blez & Billy, for the interview.
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 10, 2006 2:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
OT- How is Mrs. FormerHuntsvilleStar?
by Jennifer on Jul 10, 2006 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yepper!
We have a baby boy.
My wife Amy ("nc cubbie" on Bleed Cubbie Blue) is doing fine. It was quite an adventure as the labor came on so fast she didn't have time for an epidural, so she had to deliver naturally. Both she and Timothy are doing fine.
Still trying to decide on the boy's user name, however... ;)
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 10, 2006 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
aaw, congrats! :)
by Poppy on Jul 11, 2006 6:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congratulations!
by lurkerD on Jul 11, 2006 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congratulations!!!
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 11, 2006 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, all...
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 11, 2006 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But definitely in a good way
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 11, 2006 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course...
:) :) :) :) :)
Ack! I can't stop! :)
This is interesting:
1929 -- My dad was born, A's win World Series.
1974 -- I'm born, A's win World Series.
2006 -- My son is born, ... ?
I'm not superstitious, so the A's winning it all this year would be completely coincidental to me -- but it would be really freakin' cool!
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 11, 2006 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I was born in 1971
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 11, 2006 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fabulous job, Blez!
I'm one of the optimists around here and will continue to support this team, unconditionally, and believe that they will get through this despite K-Rod's assessment about believing the Angels can start "pulling away" from the rest of the AL West. Screw that guy.
My one complaint deals with the same thing that I complained about last year. BB has WAY too much control in this organization!! Macha is like a little boy that was given permission from his dad to let the team run against the Padres because they are 89% sure that they'll make it. Macha said that MB will not return until he has shown that he can be productive yet BB said he will probably join the team on Thursday. Why doesn't our "manager" really MANAGE this team? Ridiculous. It's clear that Macha doesn't want him until he can impact the team and that makes perfect sense to me. I am fully aware that he had a great minor-league game this weekend too but that doesn't necessarily translate to the bigs.
I defend Macha because I always believe he has little control over a job he should be fully empowered to do without having to check in with BB. People should remember that more often when things go wrong.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 10, 2006 4:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
woohoo
by whobob on Jul 10, 2006 6:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Blex,,,
by doubleplayer on Jul 10, 2006 6:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Blez...
by doubleplayer on Jul 10, 2006 6:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
if Barry was more Mexican than Chavvy ...
by monkeyball on Jul 10, 2006 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would that be pronounced...
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 11, 2006 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for interview Blez. timely
by ak_A on Jul 10, 2006 7:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
here's what I'd like to know
(And I pose this question as a Crosby fan -- and one who hasn't quite given up on Crosby's "promise" ... yet.)
by monkeyball on Jul 10, 2006 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
First and foremost
That said,
Blez: Then by the time they got good, they'd leave.
Beane: They would end up somewhere else.
I just don't buy it. Not one bit. Not anymore, at least. Not with the owners allowing us to sign Esteban Loaiza and trade for Milton Bradley who isn't exactly minimum wage and to hand out a potentially lucrative contract to Frank Thomas. Losing the Tejada's and such, fine. That's the past, but if I see this in the future as an excuse as Zito leaves and Swisher leaves and Harden leaves and Haren leaves, I'm calling bullshit. We can afford our players now. No more small market woe-is-us-waive-goodbye-to-the-all star crap.
On top of that, it's interesting to note that while In Billy We Trust, he's making it pretty apparent there's not much to trust, at least as far as this season is concerned. What we can take from that interview is that Beane has no plan to turn around to offense, unless you call "well let's hope they get healthy" a plan. To me that's pretty dissapointing, given that it's debateable the offense will be that good EVEN IF it's all healthy.
Blez: I assume you probably have theories as to why the offense has struggled to score runs this year. What do you think has happened?
Beane: I certainly don't have any answers.
by walk off bunt on Jul 10, 2006 7:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Signing Loaiza/Trading for Bradley
by grover on Jul 11, 2006 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frustration venting
I don't want to sound like an Beane excuse artist here, but the reason I really respect the recent A's teams is their ability to compete regardless of the circumstances. And although they are struggling mightily right now, they are still there at the top of the division and I fully believe they'll be there till the end. Will they dominate? probably not. And unfortunately some of AN (myself included) was expecting just that from this team, simply because we got Frank and Milton (I also secretly believed that Harden was not injury proned and Loaiza would be very good). But let's not forget that through all of this crap we are still 2 over .500. I dont agree with the notion that we should now take whatever we please from this interview and call bullshit. I do believe Beane is doing all he can for the team to win, and all I can go by in trusting his judgement is the team's track record. Therefore as frustrated as I currently am at our jr. varsity offense, I cant agree with those that are picking the interview apart as a means to expose our team's management weakness.
But I'm gona be a hypocrite for a paragraph here and agree with some of the peeps that said Chavez should sit until he's fully healthy. I cant stand the notion of "playing hurt" while not contributing. I live in Santa Barbara and have the luxury of watching the Angels feed when the A's are on tv. During this last series, Hudler made a statement about how courageous and admirable Chavez is for playing hurt. Beane's statement reminded me of that, and nothing scares me more than Beane sounding like Hudler, on anything much less an A's player.
With all of that said, let's wait until the end of the season to really go crazy with frustration. All of us here know that this team can catch fire and be as good as it has been bad recently. If you dont have that feeling, you probably arent reading this site anyway.
by speedracer on Jul 10, 2006 9:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Also
by speedracer on Jul 10, 2006 9:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Blez I am so glad that you ...
It does seem that Beane is depending on the A's to get healthy rather than acquiring someone to help us out offensively. I would be very interested in your TAKE on this. Is there any nuance that we may not have been able to detect in the reading of this interview that you were able to by listening to him?
by IM4Oakgal on Jul 10, 2006 10:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ah
by bluelightrain84 on Jul 11, 2006 12:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Totally off-topic but . . .
by bluelightrain84 on Jul 11, 2006 1:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The
by bluelightrain84 on Jul 11, 2006 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't burn it....
by McFood on Jul 11, 2006 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't buy...
by Poppy on Jul 11, 2006 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still waiting for my ...
by monkeyball on Jul 11, 2006 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the Larry Davis Fitness/Medical Kit.
by Poppy on Jul 11, 2006 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"A broken remote control and leeches"
(BTW, don't H8 on leeches -- they, along with maggots, have made quite a medical comeback of late.)
by monkeyball on Jul 11, 2006 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know...
by Poppy on Jul 11, 2006 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you know what I mean by "lay"...
by Poppy on Jul 11, 2006 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not nice to speak ill of the dead ...
by monkeyball on Jul 11, 2006 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never understood their appeal.
by Poppy on Jul 11, 2006 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Dead
by emperor nobody on Jul 11, 2006 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but ...
by monkeyball on Jul 11, 2006 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But in his case
by Englishmajor on Jul 11, 2006 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ooh, sorry, strange threading there
by Englishmajor on Jul 11, 2006 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup
(I'm also not entirely opposed to entertaining the theory that he's not actually dead.)
by monkeyball on Jul 11, 2006 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh
by bluelightrain84 on Jul 11, 2006 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of the Dead . . .
It's a shame they didn't perform at an A's game
:(
by bluelightrain84 on Jul 11, 2006 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very good front-page entertainment
by rubin sierra on Jul 11, 2006 2:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wrote a post about this earlier in the season
At least that's my theory. At the same time, once they get rolling they get this air of invincibility about them, as any cocky young kid does. And that's when the team starts firing on all cylinders when they get several players who are at that point.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 11, 2006 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about Leyland?
by saint on Jul 11, 2006 10:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Two questions I have for Beane?
- What is the entire story behind the Justin Smoak signing/not signing process.
- How can the whole front office and management team be so surprised by the injury situation?
Just a thought.
by saint on Jul 11, 2006 11:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My question:
by McFood on Jul 11, 2006 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, you must have been in my head:
I would love to see Billy do that!!!
Cisco got him on the same pitch TWO DAYS IN A ROW!!!
by saint on Jul 11, 2006 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smoak... good question!
by grover on Jul 11, 2006 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good interview
by doublehustle22 on Jul 11, 2006 2:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs























