Introducing: The Alex Sanchez Award!
I'm talking about the kind of award you don't really want to get. In your high school, it might have been "Least Likely To Succeed" (an award that was won, incidentally, by both Tom Cruise and Robin Williams). Or it might have been "Most Likely To Breed Outside Their Species" (hey, at least I have something on my trophy shelf). I'm talking about the kind of award only bestowed upon players so pathetic that they can actually hit .346 and get released by Tampa Bay, or who can be listed as an outfielder yet often be unable to catch a routine fly ball, or who can homer 6 times in 5 seasons and still manage to be busted for taking steroids. Or all of the above.
Really, there has to be an Alex Sanchez Award, so that Neifi Perez can actually be acknowledged for his ability to maintain gainful employment 10 years in a row while sporting a career OPS of .681. Somehow we need an excuse to celebrate Scott Elarton, whose pitching motion and ERA are about equally funny, and John Wasdin, whose bobblehead is actually positioned so he is gazing at the left-center field bleachers.
So please, weigh in with the players you feel deserve to be recognized for truly standing out at their position--in the way Braden Looper stands out among closers.
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This is gonna be good
Honorable mention goes to Endy Chavez for being able to eke out a starting position with the Mets. Look beyond that empty average from last season, and you don't got much else.
by Joey C. on Dec 9, 2006 10:51 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
No, not nuff said:
by Nico on Dec 9, 2006 11:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The fact that the Nats paid him that huge contract
by Zonis on Dec 9, 2006 11:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget the namesake
by Jeff in Seattle on Dec 9, 2006 10:56 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Closer: Rod Beck
by nfadil4 on Dec 9, 2006 10:56 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Do other teams wonder the same about
by nfadil4 on Dec 9, 2006 10:58 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think Jose Cruz Jr. is campaigning for the
by nfadil4 on Dec 9, 2006 11:01 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Good point: Cruz Jr. may not
by Nico on Dec 9, 2006 11:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
rob deer?
by giambizombie on Dec 9, 2006 11:12 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Rob Deer
by Nico on Dec 9, 2006 11:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
or Randy Wolf
by rubin sierra on Dec 9, 2006 12:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
or Virginia Wolfe.
by alox on Dec 9, 2006 3:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
grandmother of
by rubin sierra on Dec 9, 2006 8:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and added an "f"
by Cutthemullet on Dec 9, 2006 10:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Does our own 'tonio Perez qualify?
by The Dogfather on Dec 9, 2006 11:18 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Xenu sucks!
Now Isis, that's a hitter!
by The Pilots Dared Me To Die on Dec 11, 2006 2:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Never understood what Ken Phelps and
by nfadil4 on Dec 9, 2006 11:25 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Two seasons ago in short season ball...
He got clobbered, and the entire crowd was laughing through the sole inning I saw him throw - the PA announcer even played 'You Can Leave Your Hat On' between pitches...
But I can't remember his name. Anyway, that guy gets my nod.
by Ozzz on Dec 9, 2006 11:38 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
If I were a Giants fan....
by elephantman on Dec 9, 2006 11:39 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
by RenoTy on Dec 9, 2006 11:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
by Poppy on Dec 9, 2006 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he was pretty good
by Eric in Atlanta on Dec 9, 2006 6:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Th NFL version of the award
by nfadil4 on Dec 9, 2006 11:55 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I love Gary Kubiak!
by batgirl on Dec 9, 2006 12:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no making fun of gary kubiak
by xbhaskarx on Dec 9, 2006 12:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
kubiak off-limits
by catfish hunter on Dec 10, 2006 12:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Guess it's up to me to state the obvious
by grover on Dec 9, 2006 1:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Then I guess it's up to me
by Nico on Dec 9, 2006 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
how about the A's new
by OaklandSi on Dec 9, 2006 3:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
what are you talking about
by xbhaskarx on Dec 9, 2006 1:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
not a current player
One of the funniest things Ive ever seen at a game, was Dave Magadan steam rolling Reboulet while he tried to field a grounder. Classic.
by pickinmachine on Dec 9, 2006 2:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Dave Magadan...
What about any of those guys on the Astros in the 80's? Craig Reynolds, anyone? Alan Ashby? What about Mr. Arthur Howe?
by The Pilots Dared Me To Die on Dec 11, 2006 2:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Holy Trinity
by Danny on Dec 9, 2006 2:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
My Team
1b Travis Lee -- .224 batting average, 11 HRs.
2b Not awarded -- Jose Castillo is still young and no one else was THAT bad.
3b Abraham Nunez -- when a guy with a career .243/.313/.318 line sets a career low in batting average and just misses it in OBP and Slg you kind of have to wonder why someone saw fit to send him to the plate 2,500 hundred times.
SS Angel Berroa -- A .259 OBP almost makes a career .305 look good.
OF Scott Podsednik -- a part of one of those "all-time great trades" like the Mulder trade that leads to winning the WS. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.
OF Brad Wilkerson -- My computer is threatening to erase this, but can anyone say, 'Ben Grieve'?
OF Jeromy Burnitz -- He had a good year that one time in Colorado ... but you have to be able to hit that ball in order for it to matter how hard you're swinging.
SP Russ Ortiz -- When a guy's ERA has gone up and his IP has dropped for six years in a row, it might be time to give up on him.
SP2 Jose Lima would go in this spot, but his wife is really hot, so that's as good of a reason as any for keeping him around.
by devo on Dec 9, 2006 2:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
travis lee
by xbhaskarx on Dec 9, 2006 2:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair ...
by devo on Dec 9, 2006 3:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Great list, devo!
by Nico on Dec 9, 2006 2:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well thank you ...
by devo on Dec 9, 2006 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Molina?
by MrIncognito on Dec 9, 2006 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ben Grieve
by green star oakland on Dec 9, 2006 5:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I nominate Carl Pavano
by Masaryk on Dec 9, 2006 2:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I second Carl Pavano
by haren4prez on Dec 9, 2006 2:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He belongs on a totally different list ...
by devo on Dec 9, 2006 3:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What about Fear Mecir?
by mrod on Dec 9, 2006 2:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I was just thinking that...
by louismg on Dec 9, 2006 3:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What's more surprising?
or
2) That some fans don't realize Mecir was a very good reliever, and that 2003 was an anomaly for him?
by Danny on Dec 9, 2006 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
totally agree
mecir was relatively cheap, had a nasty screwball, and pitched quite well (not once or twice, but every year but one from 1998-2005). what more do people want?
by xbhaskarx on Dec 9, 2006 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And with that...
Go.
by louismg on Dec 9, 2006 5:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
okay
150
131
127
104
mecir with the a's (era +):
169
127
109
76
131
since this is a discussion of "pathetic" baseball players and both mecir and rincon appear to be at least average if not better, that wasn't very hard.
it's a good thing there are actually baseball statistics out there, available to the public free of charge...
by xbhaskarx on Dec 9, 2006 6:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rincon's WHIP...
0.69 (only 20 1/3 innings)
1.39
1.52
1.45
by Cutthemullet on Dec 9, 2006 7:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the end result
whatever his WHIP may have been, he was also quite good at not allowing inherited runners to score. in fact, one of the best in the league if i'm not mistaken.
so, if a reliever gives you above average ERA and also doesn't allow inherited runners to score, who cares what his WHIP may have been?
we're not trying to predict his future performance here, we're looking back on how well he actually did.
by xbhaskarx on Dec 9, 2006 7:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough, X
by Cutthemullet on Dec 9, 2006 10:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
playoffs
10.3 ip, 8k, 1bb, 2 er
rincon for the a's (02-03):
7 ip, 5k, 1bb, 2 er
boy these guys sure did suck for us!
by xbhaskarx on Dec 9, 2006 6:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Billy Koch
by haren4prez on Dec 9, 2006 3:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
yeah, at the CDC
by xbhaskarx on Dec 9, 2006 3:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Would that be the
by Nico on Dec 9, 2006 3:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
or the California Dept. of Corrections
by haren4prez on Dec 10, 2006 11:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Heres one for ya
by rzach on Dec 9, 2006 4:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'll see your Jeremy Giambi...
by GreenNGoldSooner on Dec 10, 2006 7:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nominees
Joel Pineiro gets one, for performance against the A's alone. His performance against everyone else the past couple years didn't hurt his prospects for an Alex Sanchez Award one bit, either. Ex-rotation mate Ryan Franklin gets one, too. Imagine how bad he would've been if he wasn't on roids.
Danny Kolb. Great move by Schuerholz there...
Speaking of the Brewers, some of their pitchers from a few years back definitely deserve the award. Jamey Wright was one, there were at least a couple others.
Russ AND Ramon Ortiz...if it wasn't for David, this should be the Ortiz Award on the strength of both of their contributions.
Dave Hansen and Lenny Harris get one for carving out careers as pinch hitters, even if they were decent ones.
Todd Hollandsworth always kind of sucked, and he hung around for a while, on the strength of his ROY award, probably.
Mike Morgan, the quintessential journeyman.
Rick Ankiel, although he's probably a better fit for the Chuck Knoblauch Award, the rarer and more presitigious award reserved for those professional baseball players who inexplicably lose their ability to throw a baseball.
Other blasts from the past: Rafael Belliard (for the homerless streak) and Anthony Young, SP from the Mets (for the, what, 19-game losing streak...)
by Cutthemullet on Dec 9, 2006 5:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
John Gochnaur
But his horror show wasn't all bat. Playing at shortstop he made 146 errors in 264 games (including a record 5 in one memorable double-header) with a "career" fielding percentage of .901 that included a record .869 in 1903.
Now what were you saying about Bobby Crosby ?
by green star oakland on Dec 9, 2006 6:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Dave Revering
or maybe I'm just bitter because he spat tobacco juice on my shoes when I was covering AAA in Indianapolis.
by vk on Dec 9, 2006 6:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I always liked Revering
by McFood on Dec 11, 2006 8:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dave Valle
Anybody remember that catcher for the M's in the 80's/90's? A friend of mine in Seattle loved that guy and I could never figure it out. In 13 seasons, he hit .237/.314/.373
Another favorite in this category is Mark Lemke, a big favorite of Bobby Cox for a while. "The Lemmer" hit .246/.317/.324 in 11 seasons (he did hit .444/.516/.630 in the '96 NLCS).
by Eric in Atlanta on Dec 9, 2006 7:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Dave Valle,
by Nico on Dec 9, 2006 11:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How about Terrance Long!
Or Ted Lilly and Octavio Dotel! You can do a whole section on pitchers who are horrible that got paid way to much!!!!
by benhall2121 on Dec 9, 2006 10:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
T-Long maybe...
by Cutthemullet on Dec 9, 2006 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Larry Davis for the Sanchez Award!
by elephantman on Dec 9, 2006 11:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dotel was damaged goods
Dotel has been out since May 18 with tendon calcification, which would not be addressed with surgery, but he also does not have a functioning ulnar collateral ligament. It was torn sometime in the past, certainly before he came to Oakland last season, which the team's doctors knew. He has pitched effectively without one, which is not unheard of; sometimes athletes injure ligaments but the structures around them are strong enough to carry the workload.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/06/03/AS.TMP&type=as
by Danny on Dec 10, 2006 2:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are we talking
or
the ability to not live up to the hype (Grieve)
because I have plenty of Donruss 'Rated Rookie's from the late 80's/early 90s that fall into the later category.
Matt Nokes - I'm looking at you.
Meanwhile, players that went on to do well - I didn't get their rookie cards.
by Rickeyfan on Dec 10, 2006 12:16 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
lol
by Cutthemullet on Dec 11, 2006 2:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dan Pasqua
I'll second whoever mentioned Angel Berroa's name. There aren't enough Angels listed here yet, so I will also nominate Ben Weber.
by jeepers on Dec 11, 2006 9:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bad closer, Queen Arthur
by McFood on Dec 11, 2006 8:40 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I second
And who the heck was saying don't bag on Gary Kubiak earlier? This is a baseball forum, but I have to say, nice call Kubiak on drafting Mario Williams! Reggie Bush is a total bust, and David Carr is sooooo much better then those two bums who played in the 06 Rose Bowl at quarterback. How did Vince Young look on that 39-yard GW TD run yesterday, Houston? Playing for the other team?
Okay, no more football for the day, sorry about that. I'd also like to nominate for the Alex Sanchez award, a Mr. Eric Karros! (At least when he got here)
by darooster on Dec 11, 2006 12:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Credit where credit is due.
by jeepers on Dec 11, 2006 12:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ultimately the blame falls to Casserly...
by Cutthemullet on Dec 11, 2006 9:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs























