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ALCS Series Preview: Oakland A's vs. Detroit Tigers

So the A's were decided underdogs in the series against the Twins.  They will play that role once again against the Tigers, at least according to the MSM.  We know this because anyone who gives the Yankees the Zed from Pulp Fiction treatment will automatically be the favorites going into the next round.

"Whose plane is this?"  
"It's a chartered flight to Oakland, baby."  
"Whose chartered flight to Oakland is this?"  
"It's A-Rod's."  
"Who's A-Rod?"  
"A-Rod's dead, baby.  A-Rod's dead."

We all know that most will favor the Detroit Tigers against our A's.  Yet how do the teams compare?  Very similarly, believe it or not, with the main differentiator being the approach at the plate.  One is a patient team, the other, not so much.

That being said, I do think the A's have a couple of big hurdles to overcome.  The first being the presence of Kenny Rogers who owns our A's for some reason, especially at the Coliseum.  Rogers attacked his reputation as a postseason choker with a brilliant performance in Game 3 of the ALDS and his presence has to frighten the A's just a bit.  The other is Placido Polanco, who is simply awesome when he faces A's pitching.  You'd think he was Justin Morneau, only a little less...Canadian.

Here are how the matchups look statistically:

Starting Pitching:  Rogers, Justin Verlander, Jeremy Bonderman and Nate Robertson vs. Barry Zito, Esteban Loaiza, Danny Haren and Rich Harden.  This is a very, very good matchup.  Whereas the Twins dropped a couple of notches after Santana, the Tigers will have a challenging pitcher taking the mound every single game.  The Tigers starting pitching finished the season with a 4.00 ERA, lowest in the American League.  The A's were tied for fourth with the Twins at 4.50.  The A's finished the ALDS with the lowest ERA of any of the four American League teams at 2.33.  The Tigers finished second at 3.60.  Of course, Detroit pitching was facing the potent Yankee bats and while the Twins aren't exactly slouches, Bartlett, Punto and Tyner aren't Matsui, Jeter and Sheffield.  You've got to give the Tigers a slight edge here which isn't necessarily a bad thing.  Remember, the A's starters like to be counted out (i.e. Zito vs. Santana).  I still think I would've liked the A's to roll the dice with Harden over Loaiza in Game 2, but we shall see.  Loaiza came through with a very good Game 2 in a place where he's been horrific in the past.

ADVANTAGE:  TIGERS

Relief Pitching:  This is another area where these teams match up extremely closely.  You've got Walker, Zumaya and Jones against Duchscherer, Calero and Street.  The Tigers also edged the A's statistically in this department with the Tigers pen finishing the season with a 3.55 ERA in their pen compared to the A's 3.62 in their pen.  Zumaya is absolutely dominant, but I think the rest of the A's pen matches up very favorably against the Tigers pen.  The A's have a slight edge in this department, even if Street has been a little shaky in his appearances.

ADVANTAGE:  A'S

Offense:  To many, there be no question which team has the better offense.  I would argue that it's closer than people think.  Yes, the Tigers scored 51 more runs than the A's in the regular season.  The A's hold a slight edge in OBP at .340 vs. .329 even though the Tigers had the better batting average.  But during the Tigers freefall over the second half which ultimately led to the A's facing the Twins in the first round instead of the Motown cats, the A's were significantly better.  The A's had a better batting average .279 vs. .274, but the big difference came in the on-base percentage.  The A's OBP was .360 for the second half compared to the Tigers .328.  

And this is one of the areas where I think the A's can take clear advantage of the Tigers.  Most of the Tigers are pretty impatient hitters.  The only player who showed a semblance of patience was Carlos Guillen and his .400 OBP.  Most of the rest of the Tigers hitters hover around .310 or so.  In fact, the Tigers had the second most strikeouts in the AL behind the Cleveland Indians and when you combine that with the second fewest walks in the AL you realize that the A's offense could look dynamic next to these guys.  The A's had 220 more walks this year than the Tigers.

So while many would probably say the Tigers have the edge in this department, I think that if the A's pitchers exploit that lack of patience by going out of the zone to get some swinging strikes, the A's could have the better offense.  If nothing more than you know that the A's hitters will make the Tigers pitchers work for everything they get.

ADVANTAGE:  A'S

Defense:  The Tigers have good defense in all positions, but the Twins did too.  The defense could be viewed as the main difference between the A's winning and losing in the first round as the Athletics made all the plays from spectacular to routine (except the Bradley miss in the ninth in Game 1).  The A's had the second best fielding percentage in baseball and while that does take a significant hit without Mark Ellis, I still give the edge to the A's.

ADVANTAGE:  A'S

Manager:  Many of you will soon find out that I voted for Jim Leyland as Manager of the Year on my SB Nation ballot.  I don't think that changes in the playoffs.  Macha made all the right moves in the first round, even though I still disagree with the decision to send Zito out for the eighth in Game 1, it worked out for him.  He did an excellent job managing the bullpen and he stuck to his guns keeping Chavez batting behind the Big Hurt and that paid huge dividends in Game 3 as Chavy had possibly his best postseason game of his career.  Still, Leyland has pushed all the right buttons with his team despite the fade at the end.  He directed them past an offensive juggernaut in a short series.  Again, the manager doesn't mean much if the starters go out and get whacked around, but I think the Tigers have a guy who has won a World Series.  The A's don't.

ADVANTAGE:  TIGERS

This is once again a really tough call.  But if there is any differentiator, I think the A's ability to work a pitcher and the Tigers lack of patience will pay dividends for the A's in the end.  One thing is for sure, this should be a low scoring series with the quality of pitching on the mound.

The truth is that whoever winds up coming out of this series will be a big favorite against the Cards or Mets.  This series will likely decide the 2006 World Champion, so buckle up and hold on tight.

By the way, I have a new FSN Bay Area column up if you want to check it out. LET'S GO A'S!!!!!!

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Quick note, Blez
11 points of OBP is a really big difference when you're looking at teams.  Only 52 points of OBP separated the Yankees from the Devil Rays.
Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Oct 9, 2006 10:57 AM PDT   0 recs

I think I was pointing
more to the stark difference in OBP in the second half than the overall one.

by Blez on Oct 9, 2006 10:58 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

great analysis
going to the game tomorrow, I think zito can exploit their impatience at the plate.  LETS GO OAK-LAND!

by Snitzel on Oct 9, 2006 11:01 AM PDT   0 recs

Zito on KNBR
with Byrnes now.
"The A's are boring because all they do is win."

by Checkswing HR on Oct 9, 2006 11:03 AM PDT   0 recs

thanks!
Going to the ALCS?...Don't forget to bring your "ESPN SUCKS!" signs.

by sf drift king on Oct 9, 2006 11:09 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

NOOOoooooo
don't say things like this, "This series will likely decide the 2006 World Champion, so buckle up and hold on tight."
I don't want our guys thinking this way.

We play much better when people count us out. And besides, I think the Mets would be heavy favorites over us. Everyone will be focusing on the loss of Thomas in NL park giving them the advantage.

Going to the ALCS?...Don't forget to bring your "ESPN SUCKS!" signs.

by sf drift king on Oct 9, 2006 11:08 AM PDT   0 recs

I hate to be presumptuos..
but if we make it that far, wouldn't Macha pull Kotsay and put Big Hurt at first?

by Catfish on Oct 9, 2006 12:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think he would have to
we really need Frank's bat in the line-up, so I hope he takes a few grounders at First to get some practice in
Goliath, dissatisfied with his size advantage, decided to buy David's sling, which took steroids.

by TexasAsfan on Oct 9, 2006 12:58 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No
I think we would just stick with our superior defense. Putting Thomas in would be a HUUUUUGE mistake. I could imagine 2 or 3 plays a game where Thomas would give the Mets at least one out. That's too much for such a good offensive team. If we get that far, we should just hope for the best from our other regulars.

by Philip Christy on Oct 10, 2006 2:22 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hmmmm......I wonder
Did Swisher and Johnson combined have more physically demanding, no asist outs than Frank had home runs this year?  I doubt it.  No way.  Swisher to left Payton to center, Kotsay sits.  Bottom line.

by Catfish on Oct 11, 2006 1:26 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Blez = Panther
but jesus--rhyming is a pain in the ass! -- Rubin Sierra @('.')@

by monkeyball on Oct 9, 2006 12:11 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

pretty fair analysis
in the games I saw against the Tigers this year I thought the A's pitchers worked pretty well against the Tigers' impatience at the plate. Hopefully that will be the case again.

by OaklandSi on Oct 9, 2006 11:12 AM PDT   0 recs

We aren't underdogs
Most experts I have seen are leaning towards the A's as favorites in this series.  
Please let 2006 be the year, and without an earthquake this time.

by BlameChannel53 on Oct 9, 2006 11:17 AM PDT   0 recs

Funny
I've seen several folks on ESPNEWS all saying Detroit and Kevin Kennedy said Detroit.

What experts have you seen saying the A's aren't underdogs?

by Blez on Oct 9, 2006 11:19 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It's about dead even with the official Vegas line
A's -105, Detroit a ever so slight fave at -115
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Oct 9, 2006 12:09 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That means Vegas has no clue
Goliath, dissatisfied with his size advantage, decided to buy David's sling, which took steroids.

by TexasAsfan on Oct 9, 2006 12:59 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Exactly...
Toss up of a series....Sounds about right.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Oct 9, 2006 1:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And a toss up means...
...there is no bad pick.  You can make compelling arguments for both teams, hence the series should be compelling.

By the way, three of five on ESPN.com's ALCS page pick the A's -- all five say the series goes no fewer than six games (three say seven).

"So, whatever, Ozzie." -- Nick Swisher

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Oct 9, 2006 1:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

det -115 oak -105. we be the underdog
for you gambling at home off shore odds say bet $115 to win $100 if you a like hockeytown and for us from the biggity biggity o bet $105 to win $100. what's it mean regarding who will win series. absolutely nothing except bettors favor detroit as of this very moment.

by oakath on Oct 9, 2006 3:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

When the heck
are they going to announce the time for Game 2?  I know someone said 5 yesterday, but I saw that Fox teased the Cards/Mets as the 5 game on Wednesday.

Anyone know what the time will actually be?

by Blez on Oct 9, 2006 11:18 AM PDT   0 recs

game starts at 5pm for all the A's ALCS homegames
i received this email from my A's season ticket account manager just now:
A's Fans & Patrons,

The American League Championship Series is just about sold out but Luxury Suites tickets are still available and believe it or not the prices are pretty comparable to the other tickets in the stadium:

Price per person in the ALCS for a suite in a luxury suite - $100. That's 24 tickets in a luxury suite for $2,400. Limited number of 18 seaters for $1,800.

-The Field Level tickets which are now sold out are $75 per person. So for $25 more you get a seat in the comfort of a private box!

-So round up some friends, clients, co-workers and come cheer the A's on to the World Series !!

-Game Times: Tuesday Oct 10th @ 5pm, Wed. Oct 11th @ 5pm, Tues Oct. 17th @ 5pm (if necessary), Wed Oct. 18th @ 5pm (if necessary)

Please let me know if you have any questions or if you'd like to make a reservation while suites are still available!

Go A's!

by gotgreen on Oct 9, 2006 11:21 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

So which series gets on Fox and
which is delegated to a different station?  It has to be the NLCS given the presence of a New York team, I'm guessing.

by Blez on Oct 9, 2006 11:23 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I read somewhere that Fox is doing
split telecasting -- that is, some markets get one and some the other.

by OaklandSi on Oct 9, 2006 11:25 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

they will be broadcasted simultaneously
on a split feed with FX.

from FOX's website

**FOX SPORTS SPECIAL** MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL: NLCS GAME #1 AND ALCS GAME #2 [Split Feed with FX]

FOX SPORTS PRESENTS NATIONAL AND AMERICAN LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES ACTION IN SPLIT REGIONAL FEED WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 11, ON FOX AND FX

FOX Sports presents simultaneous coverage of Major League Baseball's 2006 postseason with Game #1 of the National League Championship Series and Game #2 of the American League Championship Series. Teams, sites and broadcasters TBA. The games air live and in HD Wednesday, Oct. 11 (8:00 PM-CC ET / 5:00 PM-CC PT) on FOX and FX. (SP-0713) (TV-N/A) CC-HDTV 720p-Dolby Digital 5.1

[VIEWER'S NOTE 1: This broadcast is a split regional feed with FX so that both games are carried in all markets.] [VIEWER'S NOTE 2: BONES and JUSTICE are preempted this night.] [VIEWER'S NOTE 3: Local programming airs in primetime on the West Coast.]

by gotgreen on Oct 9, 2006 11:26 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

See, THIS is annoying...
The networks try to make sure every LDS game is in its own time slot, yet they put two LCS games up against each other?

It's a head scratcher.

"So, whatever, Ozzie." -- Nick Swisher

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Oct 9, 2006 1:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Sure..
But would you rather have an LCS game on a weekday in the afternoon?  I know I wouldnt.  Im glad they avoided that
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Oct 9, 2006 2:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You're both right
It's inconsistent and doesn't make much sense on MLB's part, but I'll take this year's ALCS tv format any day, week, season, over this year's ALDS tv format.
Bill James on Duane Kuiper: "It's absolutely incredible that a player this bad could be given 3000 at bats in the major leagues." -- Baseball Abstract, 1982

by blueconversechucks on Oct 9, 2006 2:56 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

MLB confirms
Within the last 10 minutes mlb.com has updated their postseason schedule page, showing both AL and NL games on Wednesday at 5:00.

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/schedule/ps_06.jsp

The Green and Golden Road to Unlimited Devotion

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Oct 9, 2006 11:56 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

ALCS Tickets available
I didn't want to post another ticket diary, since I already took up space on the front page with that last week. Anyway, just as with the 1st round games, I bought up tickets at 9:01 am when they went on sale thinking a bunch of people in my fraternity would want to go, but it's too expensive for most college students.

So I've got about 6 extra tickets for both Game 1 and Game 2, but the scalpers on Cragislist sicken me. I'd much rather sell them to legitimate A's fans at my cost.

If interested, email me at jrube@stanford.edu. These tickets are Print at Home, so I can email you the link to the ticket upon receipt of Paypal or Neteller payment.

by NP15 on Oct 9, 2006 11:26 AM PDT   0 recs

Just sent you an e-mail ...
I hope there is something left ...
Self-appointed VP, BBG Groupies, NorCal Chapter

by angus hanger on Oct 9, 2006 12:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Keep those Tigers Hitters Swinging
I think the key is definitely keeping the tigers hitters swinging at pitches they can't drive. They're deadly on easy to drive pitches, but they obviously don't have the patience to take a lot of walks. Zito sounds like a good candidate to exploit that I hope. I just hope we don't continue the jeckyl/hyde routine with our batting. We need some consistently good performances from our order, especially with the nasty pitching coming at us. I hope we can hit some 95-100mph fastballs for once!

by tomoyo on Oct 9, 2006 11:29 AM PDT   0 recs

I heard on the radio
that Rogers will not pitch in the Coliseum in Game 2; they'll save him for Game 3 in Detroit.

Why, you ask? I have no freaking idea. Thanks, Jim!

'Course, this would mean that Kenny pitches Game 7 at the Coliseum. Maybe that's the idea.

"The A's are boring because all they do is win."

by Checkswing HR on Oct 9, 2006 11:31 AM PDT   0 recs

That would be horrible
but then couldn't we get Harden in Game 7?
Goliath, dissatisfied with his size advantage, decided to buy David's sling, which took steroids.

by TexasAsfan on Oct 9, 2006 1:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

My revised take on Kenny...
I said before he was not a big-game pitcher and that he will fold in October.  He proved me wrong Friday night.

With that said, right now I don't think there's a difference between him pitching in Oakland or Detroit.  He has a comfort level pitching in Oakland, but just as much of one in Detroit.  Therefore it's mute.

Oh, and as was pointed out, he would get Game #7 in the Coliseum if it gets that far.  This would be the biggest game of the career for Kenny.  Do you think lightning will strike twice?

Lance Armstrong can make homophobic jokes on ESPN, yet Harold Reynolds pays the ultimate price? Explain that to me.

by gmoneymcg on Oct 9, 2006 1:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

moot...
<nitpick> Issues that are debatable, doubtful, or of no practical value are moot.
Things that can't or don't make sound are mute. </nitpick>

All good points otherwise. I really hope there is no game 7. Kenny should be playing golf by then.

by Elvez on Oct 9, 2006 1:58 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Gotta Love the Homerism
So the A's first half offensive struggles don't count, but the Tigers second half ones do?  Even though injuries played into their struggles?

I know a lot of stat heads are going to hate it, but you can't quantify what Polanco does to that team.  For some inexplainable reason, they hit better with him there and keep on trucking.  

I wouldn't be surprised a lick if the Tigers outscore the A's in this series (that doesn't mean they'll win though).  

I will be surprised if we outscore them.

by fadedash on Oct 9, 2006 11:33 AM PDT   0 recs

Wait, so I get accused of homerism
here and in the last series preview, I get accused of "not being a fan."  Guess I can't win.

by Blez on Oct 9, 2006 12:12 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Woo hoo!
You have critics! :P

That means they care!!!

"I have an owie; can I go to first?" ~louismg on Vlad

by baseballgirl on Oct 9, 2006 12:25 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Someone once told me
that you've made it once you have critics.  Guess I've made it :-)

by Blez on Oct 9, 2006 12:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

you and your homey Rev
have indeed "made it" then ;-)
"A's Brand Baseball: The worst best baseball you've ever seen!" -Chavvy

by ohtobe21likehuston on Oct 9, 2006 3:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

A guy who creates the most heavily
trafficked sports blog on the internet dedicated soley to the A's is accused of being a homer?  What a ridiculous proposition.  But if you are an A's homer....at least you're one with his eyes wide open.  Nice article.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Oct 9, 2006 12:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Is that most trafficked sports blog
related to the Oakland A's, or are we talking about all sports blogs in general?

by Salvatore on Oct 9, 2006 12:39 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

All sports blogs, if I'm not mistaken.
A remarkable achievment. Especially when one considers the A's "small market" status.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Oct 9, 2006 12:42 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

If that's true...
that truely is a phenominal accomplishment. A big congratulations to Blez and all the others who work to put this thing together.

by Salvatore on Oct 9, 2006 12:49 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I just don't agree with your train of logic
in analyzing that section.

Why are you only looking at the 2nd half there, but aren't looking at only the 2nd half of starting and relief pitching?

No comment on the affects of Polanco?

Just seems a little empty.

by fadedash on Oct 9, 2006 12:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Just another day where I wish
fadedash were a front-page writer instead of Blez and his empty analysis.

Hey, I actually said it with a straight face!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Oct 9, 2006 12:36 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Way to exaggerate
what I said.

I called it a "little empty".

If you can't handle criticisms without sour grapes, that's fine.  At least add something more beneficial than that.

by fadedash on Oct 9, 2006 1:09 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

OK, fair enough:
I wish you were a little front page writer.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Oct 9, 2006 1:11 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Fadedash
is absolutely correct.  C'mon AN editors, show some sac and elevate your game!  Why can't this be brought to Blez's attention?  What is a comment section for?  Just a pat-on-the-back?  AN is something greater, and no one here is fallible.  I take deep offense at ripping on a poster when they simply point out an objective criticism.
"We're Menudo," -BB

by eshock on Oct 9, 2006 2:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, speaking as a front page writer...
...it's seventeen ways of annoying to work really hard on a piece, only to have someone dismiss it as "blatent homerism".

Blez tries really hard to be an objective fan, and he did a good job with this matchup preview. It's frustrating when someone makes an offhand comment labeling him as something he tries very hard not to be.

"I have an owie; can I go to first?" ~louismg on Vlad

by baseballgirl on Oct 9, 2006 4:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm all about constructive crisitism...
...that's what the comments are for, but that wasn't it, IMO.
"I have an owie; can I go to first?" ~louismg on Vlad

by baseballgirl on Oct 9, 2006 4:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Constructive criticsism:
No one wrote "blatent homerism" and in any case "blatant" is spelled "blatant." (;

Seriously though, almost everyone enjoys the front-page writers' posts, which you know, so what's the point of letting yourself be upset by the inevitable group of malcontents who want to criticize you?

""Let's [stay] home and do this shit!"

by mikeA on Oct 9, 2006 4:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm not upset ;)
I just can't spell!

Seriously, though.

A.L.C.S. How can anyone be upset?!

"I have an owie; can I go to first?" ~louismg on Vlad

by baseballgirl on Oct 9, 2006 4:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

MikeA, my reason for jumping in
is that while it's not in the CGV realm, nonetheless I consider it to be pretty insulting to refer to a writer's "homerism"--the A's won 93 games, so they're probably going to be due some praise now and again!

I used to ignore about half the comments I wanted to reply to with indignation, and now I've gotten better and I ignore about 19 out of 20. But this was the 20th. See y'all in another 20!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Oct 9, 2006 5:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

wrong e/a transposition
We were supposed to accuse Blez of rampant Nomarism.

(And we were supposed to critique Nico's animal costumery: yes, his rampant ram-pants-ism.)

but jesus--rhyming is a pain in the ass! -- Rubin Sierra @('.')@

by monkeyball on Oct 9, 2006 5:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I have to agree, eshock:
None of the front-page writers is fallible.

<goes on being perfect>

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Oct 9, 2006 5:07 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He said
no one here is fallible.  Are you saying that I'm fallible?
""Let's [stay] home and do this shit!"

by mikeA on Oct 9, 2006 5:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Sorry, MikeA, you're right:
No one is fallible. My mistake.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Oct 9, 2006 5:59 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Mistake = fallible.
Never admit a mistake!

by DavidA on Oct 10, 2006 8:34 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Polanco is huge
and I said that at the very beginning:
 The other is Placido Polanco, who is simply awesome when he faces A's pitching.

He eats the A's alive and would be someone I fear more than anyone else in the Tigers lineup.

I weigh the second half heavily because to me the A's become a different team in the second half.

I still think the Tigers batting approach could be their downfall if the A's have a good pitching plan.  I think the A's could work the Tigers starters pitch count up early even if they are dealing.  I think that could be a deciding factor.

by Blez on Oct 9, 2006 12:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Given the presence of Harden,
the absence of Crosby, and the health of Loaiza, the A's are, quite literally, more the team we saw in the 2nd half than the team we saw in the 1st half. It makes perfect sense to weigh the 2nd half more in terms of predictive value.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Oct 9, 2006 12:42 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I for one still believe that
the 19 and 31 slide displayed by the Tigers looms larger than their 3 game winning streak against the Yanks.  Call is sample size or whatever, but dropping the division to the Twins on the last day of the season is also a notable stat.  
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Oct 9, 2006 12:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The other thing is that the Yankees offense
got out of its game and that's working pitchers because the Yankees seemed to be down constantly.  If the A's can avoid getting down too early, it should bode very well for them.

By the way, ESPNEWS has been all Torre, all day today.  Even my favorite of the ESPN "properties" is going down the toilet.

by Blez on Oct 9, 2006 12:50 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL...so true.
Michael Kay's radio show from NY is being broadcast on ESPN.  We've gone from the Jeter love fest to the Torre deathwatch.  

The Yanks offensive collapse is one for the ages.  No way would anyone predict the Yanks being taken in three straight.  Did the Tigers outplay them or were the Yanks due for a fall?  The seemed to be pressing awfully hard, as if the weight of the expectations placed on them proved to much to bear.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Oct 9, 2006 1:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

As much as I'd rather see A's coverage
The Torre death watch is Emmy-winning stuff.  Funniest TV this side of the Colbert Report.  I'm loving every minute of it.
Bill James on Duane Kuiper: "It's absolutely incredible that a player this bad could be given 3000 at bats in the major leagues." -- Baseball Abstract, 1982

by blueconversechucks on Oct 9, 2006 3:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

when does Dr Frist remote-diagnose Torre?
but jesus--rhyming is a pain in the ass! -- Rubin Sierra @('.')@

by monkeyball on Oct 9, 2006 4:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Frist = Weasel

by Vegas Bettor James on Oct 9, 2006 11:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Torre really *is* on notice!
"So, whatever, Ozzie." -- Nick Swisher

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Oct 9, 2006 4:43 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

on the VERGE of being on notice
but jesus--rhyming is a pain in the ass! -- Rubin Sierra @('.')@

by monkeyball on Oct 9, 2006 5:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Momentum is overrated
On Sunday, Minaya ticked off a list of candidates to join the rotation, and for once this season, none of them was Jose Lima.

by rfloh on Oct 9, 2006 12:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

So why
look at 2nd half batting stats and not look at 2nd half pitching stats?

by fadedash on Oct 9, 2006 1:06 PM PDT