KNBR 1050 says Craigs coming to the A's.
Apparently the a's are getting Craig Wilson of the Pirates for Kirk Saarloose and prospects will be exchanged. Heard a little about it about 40 mins ago and had to go and confirm it, and well, KNBR confirmed it.
Personally I don't think this trade makes any sense unless we trade off Payton. He will be another Outfielder, and another DH, something that we don't need. And the pen takes a big hit losing Saarloose.
This will also put DJ into a platoon situation with Wilson which will stunt both Wilson and DJ's growth.
Gonna keep listening to KNBR, freaking Rose Bowl crap is taking up 99% of the air-time.
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Wow...
Rotoworld says nothing.
It really depends on the prospects though. But, there could be a very good chance of Payton going as well to Pittsburgh, if not at least to offset the salary.
Leme look at the Pirate's prospects.
one thing that should not be forgotten...
by Swish33 on Jan 4, 2006 9:46 PM PST up reply actions
I like it
Zonis is right though, a lot depends on the prospects involved.
by Athletics fan and runner on Jan 4, 2006 6:55 PM PST reply actions
Pittsburgh's Top 10 Prospect List
- Neil Walker, c
- Andrew McCutchen, of
- Tom Gorzelanny, lhp
- Paul Maholm, lhp
- Jose Bautista, 3b
- Nate McLouth, of
- Bryan Bullington, rhp
- John Van Benschoten, rhp
- Chris Duffy, of
- Matt Capps, rhp
Guys' I would target on that list
Maholm, another decent pitching prospect. LHP.
Bullington could be good.
Duffy looks nice.
Capps...
Pirates have good pitching prospects I guess... they just rush em too fast.
mcclouth
just on the basis of Scrabble-score consonants ...
re
This would be great for the A's if it happened. Wilson is a nice big bat. Personally, I would cry over losing Saarloos, but whatchagonnado. Swisher's D is too valuable to waste at first. Payton has to be moved to open up a hole, but the DH has to arrive first.
Actually
I like this trade so far. Funny becuase Andeux suggested getting Wilson on another diary today.
yeah
way to go andeux!
<bows>
<Doffs hat!> Craigs resume looks great!
...if K recommended him to BB?
...if Kendall was training him to be a catcher when traded? I see he has about 10 games of at bats as a Catcher and can't help thinking what a plus that bat is at that position.
Going a step farther, (brainstorming now) if Kendall were to continue to train him he could start the season at DH and it would not interfere with that training at all.
CW is a slugger that can do OF corners, 1B, DH, C, or PH.
Regardless. We can move on from Frank now and give BB praises and glory yet once again.
Nice looking 25 man roster!
by A s Eh on Jan 5, 2006 12:11 AM PST up reply actions
re
So good in RF?
interesting
Whats funny about Craig Wilson is that I remember awhile back in the early days of the offseason, AN had a discussion about Wilson, and almost everyone was in favor of getting him.
Hes got pretty good pop, but I agree Devyn, hes not better than DJ at DH, and is pretty crappy in the OF.
I like the line up flexibility (and the power)
I'm crossing my fingers he likes and adjusts to AL pitchers quickly.
I'm penciling the A's to go all the way.
Hats off to BB
<Psttt! BB. Keep Zito. It's about the rings!>
by A s Eh on Jan 5, 2006 12:19 AM PST up reply actions
I couldn't have been the only one
YES!!!!
Ellis
Bradley
Chavez
Wilson
Johnson
Crosby
Kotsay
Swisher
Kendall
I like!!!
by SwisherSweet on Jan 4, 2006 7:18 PM PST reply actions
acually i think it would be...
kotsay
bradley
chavez
wilson
DJ
crosby
swisher
kendall
by Swish33 on Jan 4, 2006 9:48 PM PST up reply actions
Bullpen
by Colorado Fan on Jan 5, 2006 12:20 AM PST up reply actions
Also
NO!! Hope Saarloos isn't gone :(
And I got his autograph
Is there or is there not any confirmation on this
What a life...
Lagubrious half time - extravaganza show....horns, drums, tired themes belted out.
I'm with ya, alaksa....
i got you beat
You win
i got up for a little while
i hate usc....
* sigh *
Two points deducted
If the A's could get
A repeat of 2004 would be "regular"
by A s Eh on Jan 5, 2006 12:23 AM PST up reply actions
Can i really?
Well if it is bogus
Wilson's stats
Craig Wilson
Career:
549 G, 1593 AB, 427 H, 244 R, 81 HR, 241 RBI .268/.363/.488. OPS= .851
2005 (limited by injury - fractured pinky):
.264/.387/.421 OPS= .808 (led the league in HBP - 30, but had a 30/69 BB/K ratio)
Best OPS season: .979 (2001 - 88 games, .310/.390/.589)
Most HR in a season: 29 (2004 - 155 games, .264/.354/.499)
Thanks
by SportySpice @ Athletics Nation on Jan 4, 2006 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
OK, I'll play the idiot
How do you people find time to follow the NL? I can barely keep up with the AL Western Division.
Mock me all you like, but my cheesey brain doesn't have room for two baseball leagues.
by SportySpice @ Athletics Nation on Jan 4, 2006 7:49 PM PST reply actions
Wilson...
by Little Rickey on Jan 4, 2006 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
You're thiking of Zach Duke
To answer your other question, I have no life.
why is jack wilson an AN fav?
by pickinmachine on Jan 4, 2006 8:04 PM PST up reply actions
it's a horrific joke
haha
J & S
by pickinmachine on Jan 4, 2006 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
I'd love to have Gonzalez...
The Pirates always sign these mediocre old guys every year and hope they can flip them for prospects at the deadline, so there's a lot of turnover on their roster. It must be tough being a pirates fan and seeing your team sign guys like Jeromy Burnitz all the time...
by Little Rickey on Jan 4, 2006 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
yeah
by pickinmachine on Jan 4, 2006 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, I was reading rotoworld
Now all we have to do is wait a week and the trade will be complete and be Wilson and Duke for Garcia instead of Saarloos (well, maybe give them Payton as well).
oh I see....for a second
by pickinmachine on Jan 4, 2006 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
Well....
Well, not a bad trade...
Wilson's splits aren't as bad as I thought, he's managed to put up .803 ops vs righties the past three years. Of course he's manhandled lefties(.413 OBP over three yrs).
Yeah, WIlson K's a lot. But one things for sure- If it's a choice between 500 ab's of WIlson or Payton, I choose Wilson in a heartbeat.
by Little Rickey on Jan 4, 2006 7:57 PM PST reply actions
Well Nut
Nothing personal...
by PosterNutbag44 on Jan 4, 2006 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
Read the Scout post
False Alarm.
couldnt agree more!
by pickinmachine on Jan 4, 2006 8:34 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry to help turn this into a SC thread...
I'm lazy, so you can read my point here.
I think he is overhyped...
by NvrFrgtRamon55 on Jan 4, 2006 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
Hard to overhype
sure
The last big player that ESPN overhyped was Lebron James.
by pickinmachine on Jan 4, 2006 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
not a very good argument
as someone said, the last player to be overhyped by espn was lebron and that turned out okay. sure he could turn out to be a bust, as could anyone who hasn't yet proven themselves at the professional level. but i wouldn't bet against it. this was just one game, maybe white and young outperformed him tonight and his mental error turned out to be quite costly, but a team would have to be crazy to not take bush with the first overall pick.
how is espn setting anyone up for failure, as you say? there have been draft busts as long as there have been drafts.
I don't believe these until I see it
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jan 4, 2006 8:49 PM PST reply actions
re
And it is not on the Pirates
great
refresh
Its just painful that it's probably not true, but their is always that chance,
<Crosses Fingers>
refresh, rotate in chair
Looks like SC is going to have
woo hoo!!!!
(I'm the biggest Texas fan today, a) because I wanted USC to lose, and b) because I was hoping Huston Street would come watch the game with me. Still waiting for him to come over....)
You can't spell suck without...
I so wanted to say that during the Cal/USC game this year, but never had the chance because the Cal offense never go going and generally sucked.
Now the Pac-10 has a losing record this year in postseason.
by secret ASian man on Jan 4, 2006 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
I thought ASU lost!
by secret ASian man on Jan 4, 2006 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
damn
Ok now how many days again till pitchers and catchers report
I hate both teams
How can you
by slapnuts on Jan 4, 2006 9:37 PM PST reply actions
what are you talking about?
i despise USC, have no loyalty whatsoever to the pac 10, and don't give a rats ass what the texas coach said about cal last year.
this is an a's fan site, we don't have to like any of the other shitty bay area or california teams...
what next, can we not mock the pathetic raiders on here because they're from oakland?
easy
by nothinlikethetown on Jan 5, 2006 12:18 AM PST up reply actions
Why did they call the timeout on the 2pt play?
Put those on the SC Coach.
Hmmm....was this a false alarm?
by BruceBochte on Jan 4, 2006 9:46 PM PST reply actions
I think its a false alarm
by pickinmachine on Jan 4, 2006 9:52 PM PST up reply actions
bad link
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06005/632897.stm
by pickinmachine on Jan 4, 2006 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
hmmmmm
I just took a closer look at Chris Duffy
Mark Ellis our OPS/3 leader at 543
Another Youngster Dan Johnson 505
Eric Chavez 484
Mark Kotsay 465
Jason Kendal 452
by DC on Jan 4, 2006 10:06 PM PST reply actions
melhuse gone?
i know melhuse has some strange AN following, but the dude is 33 (doesn't that make him an old catcher as well?) and check out his avg obp and slg over the last three years with the a's: they have ALL declined every year.
why waste a roster spot on him?
didn't wilson back up kendall at catcher with the pirates?
i'd rather see ginter or any of about 7 pitchers (juan cruz, garcia, meyer, etc.) make the team.
Yes Craig has caught and I'm thinking
Craig Wilson A's Catcher?
Saves a roster spot doesn't it!
by A s Eh on Jan 5, 2006 12:38 AM PST up reply actions
No im not
Devyn...
by PosterNutbag44 on Jan 5, 2006 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
I can't find it anywere
by nothinlikethetown on Jan 5, 2006 12:42 AM PST reply actions
Only blurb I could find
Craig Wilson appears to be out of the Pirates' plans. Wilson, 29, plays first and right field, and he is unlikely to be retained as a bench player with a salary in the range of $4 million, which is what he is expected to receive this month. "I really don't know what their plan is," Wilson said last night from his home in California. "I'm hoping to be part of it somewhere." Wilson is coming off a season in which two injuries to his left hand limited him to 59 games. The Pirates have made known their desire to trade him but are believed to have had difficulty generating interest because of his injuries. If Wilson is not dealt, the Pirates are on pace to finish close to their targeted payroll in the upper $40 million range once all players' contracts are completed. As a result, Burnitz's signing probably will be the team's last through free agency.
by nothinlikethetown on Jan 5, 2006 2:25 AM PST up reply actions
here the Wilson to the Indians from ESPN
just look for Craig Wilson his is in the Jan 4, Wed section.
If you dont have Insider (like me) all you can read is the title which clear states he is slated to go to the Indians.
Rotoworld
http://www.rotoworld.com/includes/topblurbs.asp?sport=MLB
We get "prospects" for "player". I thought it might be the same rumor that was floating around awhile back, but Boston Globe just published it today.
Craig W could still be on...
"From Oakland, the Red Sox would probably want Justin Duchscherer, although to get him, they'd likely have to throw in some additional talent. Jay Payton would be a great fit if only he didn't burn bridges with the team in July. It might be a pitcher like Joe Kennedy, Kirk Saarloos or Jairo"
This would serve to make room for Craig, Frank or other.
Unlike the rest of AN I don't see Sox having a problem taking JPay back. The only problem last time was playing time not chemistry or clubhouse cancer or any other imagined conditions.
That being said, if Kielty or Kotsay were the ones it wouldn't surprise me either.
Looks like Craig Wilson is unlikely unless this somehow ties in.
It's BS until then.
by A s Eh on Jan 5, 2006 6:52 AM PST up reply actions
Anyone out there know what Craig w's hand
They sound recurring; just speculating; ...Hamate?
by A s Eh on Jan 5, 2006 6:54 AM PST reply actions
Fractured left pinky in July.
That sounds relatively safe and temporary.
by A s Eh on Jan 5, 2006 11:49 PM PST up reply actions
Littlefield says "He Isn't"
Here's the main quote:
"Whether it's media or fans, everybody has to realize that, if we are going to get better, part of it is having better backups," Littlefield said. "Through ownership, we've been able to increase payroll, so you're going to have the opportunity to have quality backups. Craig brings things that we need. He has power, gets on base and has versatility in the field. To me, that piece makes a lot of sense for us."
This is the same Littlefield...
One time a GM said "Carlos Peña is a big part of the future" and a couple of days later BUM... Peña was in his way to Detroit, I don't remember the GM's name but I think is Billy something...
More IF
I am sorry...
First off he can never play 2nd base and why would we want him to when we got Scutaro and Perez to play backup.
Secondly Wilson is not a good defensive player. He has a career .988 FP.

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