KNBR 1050 says Craigs coming to the A's.

Wow...

Which is more supprising? That trade or KNBR breaking A's news!?

Rotoworld says nothing.

It really depends on the prospects though. But, there could be a very good chance of Payton going as well to Pittsburgh, if not at least to offset the salary.

Leme look at the Pirate's prospects.

Knowledge is Power, Ignorance is Bliss. But I have Blissful Power, because I have a lot of knowledge, I just forgot it all

by Zonis on Jan 4, 2006 6:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

one thing that should not be forgotten...

is that wilson can play catcher. last season macha wouldnt pinch hit melhuse for kendall becasue if melhuse got hurt after the switch no one would be able to take over at catcher. BUT it we get wilson that will not be a problem. so this trade would improve our offense in more than one way.

by Swish33 on Jan 4, 2006 9:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I like it

Saarloos is a spart part at this point and Wilson is a righty bat with a career 120 OPS+.

Zonis is right though, a lot depends on the prospects involved.

Kendall Haiku by FormerHuntsvilleStar, " Ball in hand, a leap,--- a veteran catcher blocks--- and secures a win"

by Athletics fan and runner on Jan 4, 2006 6:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Hmm

Im just wondering how reliable KNBR is...

by Devyn on Jan 4, 2006 6:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Pittsburgh's Top 10 Prospect List

since I don't think they have much outside of the top 10, lets look at BA's top 10 of theirs.

Neil Walker, c
Andrew McCutchen, of
Tom Gorzelanny, lhp
Paul Maholm, lhp
Jose Bautista, 3b
Nate McLouth, of
Bryan Bullington, rhp
John Van Benschoten, rhp
Chris Duffy, of
Matt Capps, rhp

Knowledge is Power, Ignorance is Bliss. But I have Blissful Power, because I have a lot of knowledge, I just forgot it all

by Zonis on Jan 4, 2006 6:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Guys' I would target on that list

Gorzelanny would be very nice. Lefty, good minor league stats. Should be in AAA next year. Insurance for Meyer and for Zito?

Maholm, another decent pitching prospect. LHP.

Bullington could be good.

Duffy looks nice.

Capps...

Pirates have good pitching prospects I guess... they just rush em too fast.

Knowledge is Power, Ignorance is Bliss. But I have Blissful Power, because I have a lot of knowledge, I just forgot it all

by Zonis on Jan 4, 2006 7:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

mcclouth

i would take mcclouth, but that is only because he lives 10 miles up the road from my town, muskegon.

Baseball is like life. It's a day-to-day existence, full of ups and downs. You make the most of your opportunities in baseball as you do in life. - E Harwell

by peoples27 on Jan 4, 2006 10:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

just on the basis of Scrabble-score consonants ...

... I expect the Royals to be targeting Van Benschoten and Gorzelanny

@('.')@

by monkeyball on Jan 5, 2006 9:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

re

I think any prospect would be going in Pittsburgh's direction (or any swap of prospects would favor the Pirates).

This would be great for the A's if it happened. Wilson is a nice big bat. Personally, I would cry over losing Saarloos, but whatchagonnado. Swisher's D is too valuable to waste at first. Payton has to be moved to open up a hole, but the DH has to arrive first.

by 31Boots on Jan 4, 2006 6:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Actually

I've always heard that Swish is better at first than at RF, at least that is what Wash says.

I like this trade so far. Funny becuase Andeux suggested getting Wilson on another diary today.

"Put a Milo on him." -Billy Beane

by kaweahkaweah on Jan 4, 2006 7:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

and that's the first I had heard of it. crazy if true!

way to go andeux!

"Keep an open mind." --Milton Bradley, 12/15/05

by rungood on Jan 4, 2006 7:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

<bows>

Believe it or not (probably not), I even thought of mentioning Saarloos as someone we could offer - just because he seems to have more value as trade bait right now than he does as part of our team.

Bright moments!

by andeux on Jan 4, 2006 8:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

<Doffs hat!> Craigs resume looks great!

I have to wonder how well he & Kendall got along,
...if K recommended him to BB?
...if Kendall was training him to be a catcher when traded? I see he has about 10 games of at bats as a Catcher and can't help thinking what a plus that bat is at that position.

Going a step farther, (brainstorming now) if Kendall were to continue to train him he could start the season at DH and it would not interfere with that training at all.

CW is a slugger that can do OF corners, 1B, DH, C, or PH.

Regardless. We can move on from Frank now and give BB praises and glory yet once again.

Nice looking 25 man roster!

by A s Eh on Jan 5, 2006 12:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

re

I could buy that he's better at first, but right field is so much more important of a defensive position, and he's so good out there.

by 31Boots on Jan 4, 2006 7:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

So good in RF?

Better than Bradley or Payton?

"[Your blog is] pretty funny. Although I kinda wanna slap Charlie in the mouth. But I guess that's the point if you're an A's fan :-)" Blez

by Nate on Jan 4, 2006 9:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

interesting

If true the A's mustve lost out on Thomas, not willing to pony up or maybe they werent pleased with his health.

Whats funny about Craig Wilson is that I remember awhile back in the early days of the offseason, AN had a discussion about Wilson, and almost everyone was in favor of getting him.

Hes got pretty good pop, but I agree Devyn, hes not better than DJ at DH, and is pretty crappy in the OF.

Bill Stoneman is about to be offered three seasons of a right-handed version of Vladimir Guerrero - Rev Halofan

by pickinmachine on Jan 4, 2006 7:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Hey, when you

can only afford to find players off of Craigslist, you take the best Craig out there.

by Nico on Jan 4, 2006 7:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I like the line up flexibility (and the power)

I see he hits fast balls and has adjusted to breaking pitches. His power is consistent at home and on the road and vs the various styles of pitching.

I'm crossing my fingers he likes and adjusts to AL pitchers quickly.

I'm penciling the A's to go all the way.

Hats off to BB

<Psttt! BB. Keep Zito. It's about the rings!>

by A s Eh on Jan 5, 2006 12:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I couldn't have been the only one

but right after the Loaiza signing I guessed that Beane might have decided to pass on all the FA hitters (or figured they weren't interested in the A's), and so signed a SP and intended to trade pitching for a hitter. If the Wilson deal goes through, it looks like I actually guessed right!

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jan 4, 2006 7:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

YES!!!!

We just had to dump Saarloos guys. If the pirates think that he is good, then I think thats great. If this trade really is going down then Im sorry to see kirk go, he did good work for us, but hey he will get a chance to pitch more at least. I hope we traded them Jay Pay as well.

Ellis
Bradley
Chavez
Wilson
Johnson
Crosby
Kotsay
Swisher
Kendall

I like!!!

by SwisherSweet on Jan 4, 2006 7:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

acually i think it would be...

ellis
kotsay
bradley
chavez
wilson
DJ
crosby
swisher
kendall

by Swish33 on Jan 4, 2006 9:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Bullpen

Does this open a slot up for Komine in the bullpen? I know BB & Company really, really like him.

Let's Go Oak-Land!

by Colorado Fan on Jan 5, 2006 12:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

lol

^_^ Lol

by Devyn on Jan 4, 2006 7:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Also

If we dealt Payton, we could still use Wilson as a RF. a 1B as well as a Catcher, OH THE POSSIBILITIES!

by Devyn on Jan 4, 2006 7:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

NO!! Hope Saarloos isn't gone :(

I really like the guy. 2005 wouldn't have been so sucessful without him.

"I was the ugliest girl I've ever seen." - Noah Lowry

by Melody on Jan 4, 2006 7:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

And I got his autograph

on an A's coaster at Robert Buan's show back in June.

the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005.

by ak_A on Jan 4, 2006 7:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Is there or is there not any confirmation on this

or did KNBR just say it at random with out anything to back it up?

Knowledge is Power, Ignorance is Bliss. But I have Blissful Power, because I have a lot of knowledge, I just forgot it all

by Zonis on Jan 4, 2006 7:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

What a life...

Laying on beanbag chair in sleeping bag watching Rose Bowl while getting up now and then to check AN with oncoming flue symptoms.

Lagubrious half time - extravaganza show....horns, drums, tired themes belted out.

the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005.

by ak_A on Jan 4, 2006 7:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I'm with ya, alaksa....

I don't have a beanbag chair though...

by okteds on Jan 4, 2006 7:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

i got you beat

i'm on the beanbag, watching the game, eating pizza, surfing the web with my laptop and wireless internet....i don't ever have to get up.... :) :)

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jan 4, 2006 8:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

You win

most "lazy-life-ANposter-of-nighttime-Jan4" award. I need a wireless laptop.

the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005.

by ak_A on Jan 4, 2006 8:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

i got up for a little while

i had to find something to throw at the tv....

i hate usc....

* sigh *

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jan 4, 2006 8:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Two points deducted

the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005.

by ak_A on Jan 4, 2006 8:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

If the A's could get

a clean up hitter (granted, Wilson may qualify more as "clean-up lite") for their #6 starter, it would be hard to complain. I mean, I'd do it, but it would be hard.

by Nico on Jan 4, 2006 7:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

A repeat of 2004 would be "regular"

Hatte was X-Lite!

by A s Eh on Jan 5, 2006 12:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Can i really?

Trust KNBR? They havent said anything else about it, starting to think their "sources" are completly bogus.

by Devyn on Jan 4, 2006 7:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Well if it is bogus

at least it gives us something to talk about during a lull in offseason activities.

"Put a Milo on him." -Billy Beane

by kaweahkaweah on Jan 4, 2006 7:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Wilson's stats

for anyone interested (I was):

Craig Wilson
Career:
549 G, 1593 AB, 427 H, 244 R, 81 HR, 241 RBI .268/.363/.488. OPS= .851

2005 (limited by injury - fractured pinky):
.264/.387/.421 OPS= .808 (led the league in HBP - 30, but had a 30/69 BB/K ratio)

Best OPS season: .979 (2001 - 88 games, .310/.390/.589)
Most HR in a season: 29 (2004 - 155 games, .264/.354/.499)

"Keep an open mind." --Milton Bradley, 12/15/05

by rungood on Jan 4, 2006 7:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Thanks

You posted this while I was composing the post below.

by SportySpice on Jan 4, 2006 7:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

OK, I'll play the idiot

Who the hell is Craig Wilson? Never heard of him. Of course, I couldn't name a single member of the Pirates, except Jason Bay (he's a Pirate, right?) and that young kid pitcher whose name I can't recall.
How do you people find time to follow the NL? I can barely keep up with the AL Western Division.
Mock me all you like, but my cheesey brain doesn't have room for two baseball leagues.

by SportySpice on Jan 4, 2006 7:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Wilson...

Is a masher. He's got serious power, a pretty good eye at the plate, and he whiffs a lot. He brings almost nothing to the table defensively, although he can catch in an emergency. He's best used as a DH. 29 years old, hit's lefties tremendously well, but has held his own against rh's at times... And yeah, he's cheap...

by Little Rickey on Jan 4, 2006 8:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

You're thiking of Zach Duke

They also have AN favorite Jack Wilson and a logjam at 1b/OF with Casey, Bay, Craig Wilson and Burnitz. Other notables are Mike Gonzalez (who would be amazing if he were in this deal, I know, impossible), Joe Randa, Oliver Perez (who I think is an ace), and Kip Wells.

To answer your other question, I have no life.

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." - Yogi Berra

by vignette17 on Jan 4, 2006 8:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

why is jack wilson an AN fav?

guy looks like a little kid.

Bill Stoneman is about to be offered three seasons of a right-handed version of Vladimir Guerrero - Rev Halofan

by pickinmachine on Jan 4, 2006 8:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

it's a horrific joke

where certain demented posters refer to him as "the sexiest man alive". That's just not right. <shakes head> Kids these days.

by Apricot on Jan 4, 2006 8:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

haha

I wonder who that could be. 2 guesses.

J & S

Bill Stoneman is about to be offered three seasons of a right-handed version of Vladimir Guerrero - Rev Halofan

by pickinmachine on Jan 4, 2006 8:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I'd love to have Gonzalez...

Big Big K rates, and he's lefthanded. Would certainly be worlds better than Rheineker or Flores. It ain't happening...

The Pirates always sign these mediocre old guys every year and hope they can flip them for prospects at the deadline, so there's a lot of turnover on their roster. It must be tough being a pirates fan and seeing your team sign guys like Jeromy Burnitz all the time...

by Little Rickey on Jan 4, 2006 8:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

not to mention hes slated to close for them right?

Bill Stoneman is about to be offered three seasons of a right-handed version of Vladimir Guerrero - Rev Halofan

by pickinmachine on Jan 4, 2006 8:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow, I was reading rotoworld

and theu said they expected Wilson to be traded to a smarter team than the Pirates a couple of days ago. I started falling in love with the idea then and hoped the smart team was the A's.

Now all we have to do is wait a week and the trade will be complete and be Wilson and Duke for Garcia instead of Saarloos (well, maybe give them Payton as well).

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." - Yogi Berra

by vignette17 on Jan 4, 2006 7:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

oh I see....for a second

I thought you meant OUR Duke hehe.

Bill Stoneman is about to be offered three seasons of a right-handed version of Vladimir Guerrero - Rev Halofan

by pickinmachine on Jan 4, 2006 7:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Well....

I hate to be a spoiler and all, but a similar thread by a similar poster was already locked on another board. Any links? Any confirmation? Anyone one else actually hear anythung on KNBR? I am highly suspect of this until I see/hear more on it. Sorry.

"I have nothing against the bunt - in it's place. But most of the time that place is in the bottom of a long-forgotten closet." - Earl Weaver

by PosterNutbag44 on Jan 4, 2006 7:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Well, not a bad trade...

If this is true, I would suspect the A's would keep Swish in RF, DJ at first, and use Wilson as the primary DH, as he has an iron glove. That would be my plan...

Wilson's splits aren't as bad as I thought, he's managed to put up .803 ops vs righties the past three years. Of course he's manhandled lefties(.413 OBP over three yrs).

Yeah, WIlson K's a lot. But one things for sure- If it's a choice between 500 ab's of WIlson or Payton, I choose Wilson in a heartbeat.

by Little Rickey on Jan 4, 2006 7:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

or Frank's legs

and DL visits...

by A s Eh on Jan 5, 2006 12:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Well Nut

I saw the post on scout.com as well, So i decided to go check it out to see if it was just some random troll, then i heard them talking about it. So I guess all we can do is hope and pray.

by Devyn on Jan 4, 2006 8:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Nothing personal...

I just don't buy into easily spread internet rumours. I tend to wait for at, the very least, an un-official announcement somewhere. I could be wrong, and have no issue with that. Maybe they decided to wait until tomorrow to announce it because it got done late and the Rose Bowl is on. Until I see/hear more though, I am skeptical.

"I have nothing against the bunt - in it's place. But most of the time that place is in the bottom of a long-forgotten closet." - Earl Weaver

by PosterNutbag44 on Jan 4, 2006 8:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

And it very well

may be just some rumor, just putting the word out there though.

by Devyn on Jan 4, 2006 8:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Read the Scout post

it looks like BS. The guy who made it up also made it up on the Giants board.

False Alarm.

Knowledge is Power, Ignorance is Bliss. But I have Blissful Power, because I have a lot of knowledge, I just forgot it all

by Zonis on Jan 4, 2006 8:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Reggie!!!!! Bush!!!!! Is!!!! Awesome!!!!!!!

"Don't you play the flute, Huddy?"

by capper3 on Jan 4, 2006 8:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

couldnt agree more!

Just AMAZING!

Bill Stoneman is about to be offered three seasons of a right-handed version of Vladimir Guerrero - Rev Halofan

by pickinmachine on Jan 4, 2006 8:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Except

for that "attempted" latteral pass :P

by Devyn on Jan 4, 2006 8:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Even God made the Angels....;)

"Don't you play the flute, Huddy?"

by capper3 on Jan 4, 2006 8:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry to help turn this into a SC thread...

I like Bush, but does anyone else think he's a bit overhyped?

I'm lazy, so you can read my point here.

"In 1962 I was named Minor League Player of the Year. It was my second season in the Bigs." - Bob Uecker

by JLaff on Jan 4, 2006 8:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I think he is overhyped...

actually i think there are other more complete backs in college now, actually White might be a better pure running back of the two on USC, others would be Deangelo Williams of Memphis, Maurice Drew of UCLA, and Laurence Maroney of Minnesota. That being said Bush has more athleticism and upside than all of them. At the moment though he isn't even the best runner in tonights game, White is performing better and Young looks like he did in last years Rose Bowl running all over the place. And about all the ESPN coverage, I like USC and even i was fed up with all the coverage they were getting on ESPN before tonight, it will just be good we don't have to have that shoved down our throats anymore.

"What an ending. Who would have thought that? A's win with a bunt." ~Macha on Ramon's Winning bunt in the '03 playoffs

by NvrFrgtRamon55 on Jan 4, 2006 8:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Hard to overhype

8.9 yards per carry for a season

"We've come a long way, and I'm not talking about Virginia Slims, either." - Art Howe

by EastCoastA on Jan 5, 2006 9:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

sure

hes overhyped. But for every overhyped player thats a bust you can name 10 that turn out to be superstars.

The last big player that ESPN overhyped was Lebron James.

Bill Stoneman is about to be offered three seasons of a right-handed version of Vladimir Guerrero - Rev Halofan

by pickinmachine on Jan 4, 2006 9:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

not a very good argument

sorry but that argument doesn't really work. just because there have been other overhyped players that have turned out to be busts doesn't mean bush will be a bust, one can find anecdotal evidence to support anything. is bush overhyped? he's certainly heavily hyped.
as someone said, the last player to be overhyped by espn was lebron and that turned out okay. sure he could turn out to be a bust, as could anyone who hasn't yet proven themselves at the professional level. but i wouldn't bet against it. this was just one game, maybe white and young outperformed him tonight and his mental error turned out to be quite costly, but a team would have to be crazy to not take bush with the first overall pick.

how is espn setting anyone up for failure, as you say? there have been draft busts as long as there have been drafts.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jan 4, 2006 11:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't believe these until I see it

somewhere else with a link.

by Blez on Jan 4, 2006 8:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

re

Is KNBR still reporting it? Don't they have three news breaks an hour? Somebody else should have at least heard it on the radio by now.

by 31Boots on Jan 4, 2006 8:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

And it is not on the Pirates

blog...but then again, its late there and they may not have 24/7 posters like we do.

the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005.

by ak_A on Jan 4, 2006 8:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I haven't heard a thing

by Blez on Jan 4, 2006 8:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

great

Im like 80 percent sure this is bs, especially after looking at the scout.com boards, but now I will spend my time pouring over every website I can, multiple times looking for it. There goes a good half hour...

by OaktownIn06 on Jan 4, 2006 9:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

re

lol, welcome to my last two hours.

by 31Boots on Jan 4, 2006 9:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

refresh

refresh, refresh.
Its just painful that it's probably not true, but their is always that chance,
<Crosses Fingers>

by OaktownIn06 on Jan 4, 2006 9:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

refresh, rotate in chair

twice, touch nose and refresh again.

the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005.

by ak_A on Jan 4, 2006 9:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Looks like SC is going to have

to start all over again on a winning streak. heh, heh.

the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005.

by ak_A on Jan 4, 2006 9:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

woo hoo!!!!

YEAH! Texas wins!!!

(I'm the biggest Texas fan today, a) because I wanted USC to lose, and b) because I was hoping Huston Street would come watch the game with me. Still waiting for him to come over....)

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jan 4, 2006 9:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

You can't spell suck without...

...USC.

I so wanted to say that during the Cal/USC game this year, but never had the chance because the Cal offense never go going and generally sucked.

Now the Pac-10 has a losing record this year in postseason.

"Damn kids" -Ron Flores

by secret ASian man on Jan 4, 2006 9:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

No they don't...

ASU win, Cal win, UCLA win.

ORE lose, USC lose.

"Don't you play the flute, Huddy?"

by capper3 on Jan 4, 2006 9:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I thought ASU lost!

Well... anyways... I'm wrong, so what.

"Damn kids" -Ron Flores

by secret ASian man on Jan 4, 2006 10:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

damn

what a great game!

Ok now how many days again till pitchers and catchers report

Bill Stoneman is about to be offered three seasons of a right-handed version of Vladimir Guerrero - Rev Halofan

by pickinmachine on Jan 4, 2006 9:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I hate both teams

But god damnit, I wanted the Pac10 to win! DAMN YOU AGAIN TEXAS!

Knowledge is Power, Ignorance is Bliss. But I have Blissful Power, because I have a lot of knowledge, I just forgot it all

by Zonis on Jan 4, 2006 9:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

How can you

guys not only root against the pac10, but for a texas team. Even if you don't like USC. Disgraceful. Especially since last year when stupid texas' coach campaigned, basically whining, for them to get to the bcs game over Cal. I am calling Bullshit folks, bigtime.

Maybe something i haven't even heard of before...

by slapnuts on Jan 4, 2006 9:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

what are you talking about?

how is it disgraceful?
i despise USC, have no loyalty whatsoever to the pac 10, and don't give a rats ass what the texas coach said about cal last year.
this is an a's fan site, we don't have to like any of the other shitty bay area or california teams...
what next, can we not mock the pathetic raiders on here because they're from oakland?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jan 4, 2006 11:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

easy

I'm from Oakland, but I'm a UT alum. Hook em Horns!

"May our feet be swift. May our bats be mighty. And may our balls be...plentiful."

by nothinlikethetown on Jan 5, 2006 12:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Why did they call the timeout on the 2pt play?

With that timeout, Bush could've run to the middle of the field and got another 15-20 yards with a tick or two left and at least had a shot at a long field goal. That was bad coaching. Also, wasn't it a little late to start blitzing..come on I was waiting for that 3 quarters ago. And when you need 2 yards against the best D line in football and they know you need 2 yards, how about pitching it to the best playmaker to walk the earth and let him scamper for 2 yards. And when you get a chance to intercept a pass (right before the first of TEX comeback td's) catch the damn ball. I'm not gonna sleep tonight.

"Don't you play the flute, Huddy?"

by capper3 on Jan 4, 2006 9:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Put those on the SC Coach.

for the 4th down call at least.

the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005.

by ak_A on Jan 4, 2006 9:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Hmmm....was this a false alarm?

I kind find anything on a Saarlos-Wilson trade anywhere else on the net.

"Macha, Howe...whatever." --salb918

by BruceBochte on Jan 4, 2006 9:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I think its a false alarm

hot off the press http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06005/632897.stm

He also said he does not intend to trade Craig Wilson, even though Burnitz and Casey will start in right field and first base, Wilson's two positions, and even though Wilson could make $4 million or more next season. "Whether it's media or fans, everybody has to realize that, if we are going to get better, part of it is having better backups," Littlefield said. "Through ownership, we've been able to increase payroll, so you're going to have the opportunity to have quality backups. Craig brings things that we need. He has power, gets on base and has versatility in the field. To me, that piece makes a lot of sense for us."

Bill Stoneman is about to be offered three seasons of a right-handed version of Vladimir Guerrero - Rev Halofan

by pickinmachine on Jan 4, 2006 9:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

bad link

my bad. Too many tabs open in Firefox!

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06005/632897.stm

Bill Stoneman is about to be offered three seasons of a right-handed version of Vladimir Guerrero - Rev Halofan

by pickinmachine on Jan 4, 2006 9:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

hmmmmm

is this Devyn guy a normal poster cuz im wondering if maybe he's going to every A's related blog website and posting this rumor to get EVERY A's fan worked up. Dunno bout this one.

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin, Seattle Mariners

by Helloooo 1st on Jan 4, 2006 9:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I just took a closer look at Chris Duffy

Hes a hot little potato. His OPS/3 last year, split between the Pirates and there AAA affiliate, was 473. Compare that to.....

Mark Ellis our OPS/3 leader at 543
Another Youngster Dan Johnson 505
Eric Chavez 484
Mark Kotsay 465
Jason Kendal 452

"Baseball is simple. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball. sometimes you win. some times you loose. some times it rains." -Bull Durham

by DC on Jan 4, 2006 10:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

melhuse gone?

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/M/adam-melhuse.shtml

i know melhuse has some strange AN following, but the dude is 33 (doesn't that make him an old catcher as well?) and check out his avg obp and slg over the last three years with the a's: they have ALL declined every year.

why waste a roster spot on him?
didn't wilson back up kendall at catcher with the pirates?

i'd rather see ginter or any of about 7 pitchers (juan cruz, garcia, meyer, etc.) make the team.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jan 4, 2006 10:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Yes Craig has caught and I'm thinking

BB would have gotten Kendall's advice on such a move.

Craig Wilson A's Catcher?

Saves a roster spot doesn't it!

by A s Eh on Jan 5, 2006 12:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

No im not

Im not the guy that was posting on th other forums. God, all i was doing was relaying what i heard, no need to bite my head off.

by Devyn on Jan 4, 2006 10:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Devyn...

I don't think anyone is biting your head off. But, in order to maintain some sort of credibility, I'd steer clear of posting entire diaries based around what you think you might have heard someone else say. It was never mentioned on KNBR, unless you and the other guy over on Scout's boards are the only two who heard it. Drop a line in the link dump or something. Also, your diary title and heading were quite misleading. Just some friendly advice.

"I have nothing against the bunt - in it's place. But most of the time that place is in the bottom of a long-forgotten closet." - Earl Weaver

by PosterNutbag44 on Jan 5, 2006 12:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

according to ESPN....

Craig Wilson is slated to be traded to the Indians.

by Zabat on Jan 4, 2006 11:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I can't find it anywere

I think it is BS. It's not on rotoworld, mlbtraderumors, scout, or knbr. There's nothing from Rosenthal or Gammons. The rumor up and vanished like a fart in the wind. I also cant find anything about Wilson to the Indians on ESPN.

"May our feet be swift. May our bats be mighty. And may our balls be...plentiful."

by nothinlikethetown on Jan 5, 2006 12:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Only blurb I could find

from Ben Maller:

Craig Wilson appears to be out of the Pirates' plans. Wilson, 29, plays first and right field, and he is unlikely to be retained as a bench player with a salary in the range of $4 million, which is what he is expected to receive this month. "I really don't know what their plan is," Wilson said last night from his home in California. "I'm hoping to be part of it somewhere." Wilson is coming off a season in which two injuries to his left hand limited him to 59 games. The Pirates have made known their desire to trade him but are believed to have had difficulty generating interest because of his injuries. If Wilson is not dealt, the Pirates are on pace to finish close to their targeted payroll in the upper $40 million range once all players' contracts are completed. As a result, Burnitz's signing probably will be the team's last through free agency.

"May our feet be swift. May our bats be mighty. And may our balls be...plentiful."

by nothinlikethetown on Jan 5, 2006 2:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

here the Wilson to the Indians from ESPN

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/features/rumors?&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finside r.espn.go.com%2fmlb%2ffeatures%2frumors

just look for Craig Wilson his is in the Jan 4, Wed section.

If you dont have Insider (like me) all you can read is the title which clear states he is slated to go to the Indians.

by Zabat on Jan 5, 2006 8:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Rotoworld

The Wilson rumor isn't on Rotoworld, but this one is:
http://www.rotoworld.com/includes/topblurbs.asp?sport=MLB

We get "prospects" for "player". I thought it might be the same rumor that was floating around awhile back, but Boston Globe just published it today.

by saml314 on Jan 5, 2006 1:02 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Craig W could still be on...

From your Roto link
"From Oakland, the Red Sox would probably want Justin Duchscherer, although to get him, they'd likely have to throw in some additional talent. Jay Payton would be a great fit if only he didn't burn bridges with the team in July. It might be a pitcher like Joe Kennedy, Kirk Saarloos or Jairo"

This would serve to make room for Craig, Frank or other.

Unlike the rest of AN I don't see Sox having a problem taking JPay back. The only problem last time was playing time not chemistry or clubhouse cancer or any other imagined conditions.

That being said, if Kielty or Kotsay were the ones it wouldn't surprise me either.

Looks like Craig Wilson is unlikely unless this somehow ties in.

It's BS until then.

by A s Eh on Jan 5, 2006 6:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Anyone out there know what Craig w's hand

problems were?

They sound recurring; just speculating; ...Hamate?

by A s Eh on Jan 5, 2006 6:54 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Fractured left pinky in July.

Torn tissue in knuckle of left middle finger (leading to surgery) in May. Sounds totally unrelated and merely flukey.

"I'm a lexicon devil with a battered brain."--Darby Crash

by lexdevil on Jan 5, 2006 8:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

That sounds relatively safe and temporary.

Encouraging.

by A s Eh on Jan 5, 2006 11:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Littlefield says "He Isn't"

check out this article from the Post-Gazette: http://post-gazette.com/pg/06005/632897.stm

by Brian in 317 on Jan 5, 2006 7:01 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Here's the main quote:

(Littlefield) said he did not intend to trade Craig Wilson, even though Burnitz and Casey would start in right field and first base, Wilson's two positions, and even though Wilson could make $4 million or more next season.

"Whether it's media or fans, everybody has to realize that, if we are going to get better, part of it is having better backups," Littlefield said. "Through ownership, we've been able to increase payroll, so you're going to have the opportunity to have quality backups. Craig brings things that we need. He has power, gets on base and has versatility in the field. To me, that piece makes a lot of sense for us."

by Brian in 317 on Jan 5, 2006 7:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

This is the same Littlefield...

Who said he wouldn't NON-TENDER Josh Fogg, and guess what? Josh Fogg is a free agent. Right now his word means nothing, like the word of any GM.

One time a GM said "Carlos Peña is a big part of the future" and a couple of days later BUM... Peña was in his way to Detroit, I don't remember the GM's name but I think is Billy something...

by Olijerez77 on Jan 7, 2006 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

More IF

Great defensive player in my opnion but I think you have to stick him somewhere permeatately and not have him rotate with DJ or 2B with ellis, have him take an OF spot.

The tragedy of life is not that it ends so soon, but that we wait so long to begin it.-W. M. Lewis

by doublehustle22 on Jan 5, 2006 4:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs