Signing the Great Equalizer
Athletics Nation, meet your 2006 Oakland A's DH Frank Thomas.
Otherwise known as "The Big Hurt", Thomas has been a mashing force throughout his career in the south side of Chicago.
There are so many different angles to dissect this move, it's tough to know where to start. So let's start where Billy Beane probably started. The statistics.
- Over his career, Frank Thomas has a .995 OPS. That's good for 10th in all of baseball history. Let me repeat that, that's good for 10th in baseball history. The other names on the list? Ruth, Williams, Gehrig, Bonds, Helton (surely aided by the Colorado air), Foxx, Greenberg, Hornsby, and Manny Ramirez. He is also an on-base machine, which had to have Billy Beane more than willing to take a chance on someone with these credentials. Thomas ranks 12th all-time with a .427 OBP. 10 out of 15 years he has had 100 or more walks in a season. So why was someone with this resume available? That gets into another part of the equation to factor in.
- Thomas is a very large man (6'5", 275 pounds) with some questionable health issues. The reports on Thomas and his injured ankle make him a scary proposition. He played only 74 games in 2004 and 34 in 2005. Thomas is like an 18-wheeler right now trying to successfully end his career on tricycle wheels. I believe that the A's did their due diligence on this though. Billy Beane's offseason reading has been nothing but medical reports. First, Milton Bradley's and now, Thomas. The other thing to keep in mind is that signing Thomas doesn't hurt the team. The A's are a deeper team than they have been in many, many years. If Thomas goes down for some time, they have Dan Johnson to DH and Nick Swisher to play first. If Chavez goes down for a few weeks, they now have Antonio Perez to help at that position. Same with Bobby Crosby and Mark Ellis. Any one of the outfielders gets hurt, they have Jay Payton. If one of the starting pitchers gets hurt, you have Saarloos and Kennedy in the pen. The 2005-06 offseason will be remembered as one of addition without subtraction. The only issue here will be spreading out the at-bats in the unlikely case that the team remains healthy.
- The lineup looks intimidating now. With Ellis, Kotsay, Thomas, Chavez, Bradley, Crosby, Johnson, Swisher and Kendall, this team will have the ability to put up runs in bunches. It has a lot of power and it has a ton of patience. This lineup could drive opposing pitchers crazy with their ability to lay off bad pitches and hammer the stuff out over the plate. And the thing is, this offense didn't need to get that much better. It only needed to marginally improve, especially with the addition of Esteban Loaiza. But now, with Payton, Perez and Kielty on the bench, it's deep and it should be protected against injury. Although I wouln't be surprised to see Payton moved, I also wouldn't be surprised if he stays here to help guard against injury. The only challenge then is to keep all the players in the clubhouse happy with playing time if everyone stays healthy. Macha has struggled with his lack of depth over the last few years, let's see how he does with an abundance of depth.
- Thomas has a reputation of being a good clubhouse presence and someone who is a good leader. While I don't usually put a lot of stock into these "reputations", I firmly believe that Frank Thomas will have a positive impact on the A's clubhouse, and could even counteract any problems that may have arisen from the acquisition of Milton Bradley.
- Is Thomas the big bat so many ANers have been asking for? That remains to be seen. Thomas has only had 345 at-bats over the past two seasons. He probably isn't the player he was in 2000, which was his last really great season. But if he can get back to his 2003 form and slug .562, he will be the player who can put this team over the top. Keep in mind that Thomas' worst slugging percentage over a season where he played more than 20 games in his career was .471. The A's only had one position player over that number last year and that was Mark Ellis at .477. Eric Chavez slugged .466. That statistic, more than any other one, bodes well for the A's. As Billy Beane is fond of saying, power is the great equalizer in baseball. Beane got his equalizer in Thomas.
- Make no mistake about it, the signing of Frank Thomas means that the A's are going for it all this year. You don't sign 37-year-old players, even to an incentive-laden deal, if you aren't thinking about winning in the short term. Now, Zito may still eventually be traded, but if you couple Z being an Athletic along with this signing, it tells me that the front office believes this team has a legitimate shot this year to win the World Series. And you know what? I believe them.
- The A's aren't going to get perfect players...at least until this team gets its new stadium. That's why you see the A's getting players like Thomas, who has the injury problems, and Bradley, who has the behavior problems. But at the same time, these are players who can contribute to a team in a big way. Thomas with his big stick. Bradley with his stick and his defense. In order to successfully run a small market club, you have to take risks, but you have to choose which risks are likely to bring the highest reward. Thomas and Bradley could be huge cogs in a championship run. But there is also big "ifs" associated with both of these players. Thomas and his health and Bradley and his inability to stay out of trouble.
- I said this on the air with Marty Lurie on his Inside Baseball show and I'll say it now. Since the A's have now signed Frank Thomas (I said "if the A's sign Thomas" on the air), I believe this team becomes the favorite in the American League to go to the World Series. Now, circumstances can change that, like if the Angels suddenly got Tejada and Manny Ramirez, but as of right now, I really like the A's chances this year and I'm more excited than ever about this team.
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hear hear
The team has virtually no weakness and many strengths.
Let's rock and roll
by oaktoon on Jan 25, 2006 2:47 PM PST 0 recs
I'm still a little worried about the pen
by Blez on
Jan 25, 2006 2:52 PM PST
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Ricky wasn't great
And it's not as if Calero, Witasick and Duke can't get lefties out.
by oaktoon on
Jan 25, 2006 2:54 PM PST
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also
If not a bullpen guy, AN always loves a good prospect!
by pickinmachine on
Jan 25, 2006 3:15 PM PST
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Payton back to Boston
by DC on
Jan 25, 2006 4:18 PM PST
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The sharks are already
by eamb on
Jan 25, 2006 4:20 PM PST
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Also Indians fans
They want Swisher.
by salb918 on
Jan 25, 2006 4:24 PM PST
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... or Payton ...
by monkeyball on
Jan 25, 2006 4:26 PM PST
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::shudders::
by salb918 on
Jan 25, 2006 4:30 PM PST
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rocky rhodes much more effective against
by bigelephant on
Jan 25, 2006 6:07 PM PST
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I'm going on the record
by AsFan on
Jan 26, 2006 1:43 AM PST
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ooops
by eamb on
Jan 25, 2006 4:30 PM PST
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One other thing about the pen
by Blez on
Jan 25, 2006 2:55 PM PST
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Well, maybe not Anderson.
by salb918 on
Jan 25, 2006 2:55 PM PST
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I don't think
by niallmack on
Jan 25, 2006 3:51 PM PST
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"The team has virtually no weakness..."
We've still got Kendall behind the dish not throwing out runners with alarming regularity. The Big Hurt is still a big ?, so is Bradley, as are all the returning rookies. They're not ALL going to improve.
Let's look at it this way, if the Angels had signed Thomas, would we all think they'd be the favorites to win the World Series?
by McFood on
Jan 25, 2006 4:12 PM PST
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When they lose 3 straight at some point
by OaktownPower on
Jan 25, 2006 4:38 PM PST
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No
Now i believe 100 is not only attainable, but likely.
By virtually no weaknesses I mean the following:
- the best 1-5 rotation in the sport;
- a deep and very strong bullpen;
- a very balanced lineup 1-9, with significant depth b ehind it;
- a very good fielding team;
It's a very very strong team.
by oaktoon on
Jan 25, 2006 10:43 PM PST
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Just what I've been waiting for!
In my view this is a no-lose deal. If he is healthy Swisher and Johnson can platoon. If he is not, the A's have quality back-ups.
Is there now any doubt who will be on the 25 man rooster at the start of the season?
~Dave
by bolt on Jan 25, 2006 2:49 PM PST 0 recs
Only question i can think of
Other than that:
Thomas
Kendall
Melhuse
DJ
Ellis
Crosby
Perez
Chavez
kielty
payton
Swish
Bradley
Kotsay
and 11 pitchers, with a pen of Saarloos, Witasick, kennedy, Duke, Calero and Street.
Of course someone wil get hurt in spring training.
by oaktoon on
Jan 25, 2006 2:51 PM PST
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platoon Swisher and Payton?
by DC on
Jan 25, 2006 4:26 PM PST
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Swisher
- May the best man win
- May the worst man get dealt
by Colorado Fan on
Jan 25, 2006 4:45 PM PST
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So what you're saying
Call me crazy, but I'll see what's behind door number two.
by walk off bunt on
Jan 25, 2006 5:20 PM PST
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Competition
I understand BB strokes Swisher as much as any GM to player in the history of baseball, but Payton is better than Swisher (this coming season). Defensively and Offensively...
Frank Thomas was signed to help this team win it all THIS SEASON. Why not play your best 9 players the majority of THIS SEASON?
It needs to be considered, IMO.
by Colorado Fan on
Jan 25, 2006 6:53 PM PST
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Defensively, yes
2005 Swisher - .236 .322 .446 .768
2005 Payton - .269 .302 .451 .753
2004 Payton - .260 .326 .367 .693
In fact, Payton has only topped Swisher's rookie OPS while playing for the Rockies.
Payton is a great 4th OF. He plays good defence, and will pop the occasional HR, but his lack of plate discipline limits his usefulness to a backup role.
by MrIncognito on
Jan 26, 2006 6:31 AM PST
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I'm not saying that Payton...
Payton Lifetime OPS = .773
by Colorado Fan on
Jan 26, 2006 9:07 AM PST
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Payton better than Swisher in '06?
OPS:
Swisher .768
Payton .749
by boilerdan on
Jan 26, 2006 6:53 AM PST
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Payton
Payton Lifetime: .773 OPS
So Payton doesn't deserve a chance to start? Swisher should be "handed" the LF starting job?
by Colorado Fan on
Jan 26, 2006 9:01 AM PST
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Swish is in his ealry to mid 20's
by EastCoastA on
Jan 26, 2006 2:13 PM PST
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Its going to be Swish
by DC on
Jan 25, 2006 5:21 PM PST
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Future
Who's going to be the better player in 2006? Swisher or Payton? History says Payton.
AN is so used to thinking about the future of our ballclub. Well friends, the future is right in front of us. Play the best 9 ballplayers!
by Colorado Fan on
Jan 25, 2006 6:56 PM PST
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Look at their birthdates
by EastCoastA on
Jan 26, 2006 2:14 PM PST
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You haven't been paying any attention to BB for...
by robertmelvin on
Jan 25, 2006 6:20 PM PST
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Awesome
by MoneyManWilliam on Jan 25, 2006 2:51 PM PST 0 recs
correction (not a huge deal, just saying)
Thomas, a two-time American League MVP who has been slowed by injuries in recent years, can make an additional $2.6 million in bonuses based on plate appearances and not hurting his left foot.
by rungood on
Jan 25, 2006 2:59 PM PST
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Still...
by kaweahkaweah on
Jan 25, 2006 3:03 PM PST
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Oh, I know!!
I'm sooo excited about having the Big Hurt for so cheap, and I think it's preposterous that other teams didn't risk taking a flier on him for even a bit more. I mean, $3.1mil (max) is less than his buyout from the Chi-Sox!!
PS: Sorry Hatte, it's no contest.
by rungood on
Jan 25, 2006 3:37 PM PST
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"bigger upside"?
by monkeyball on
Jan 25, 2006 4:27 PM PST
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don't forget backside
by batgirl on
Jan 26, 2006 12:57 PM PST
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ah, but ...
by monkeyball on
Jan 26, 2006 1:31 PM PST
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Not according to Sir Mix-a-lot
by batgirl on
Jan 26, 2006 3:38 PM PST
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still cheap
by BashBrothers89 on Jan 25, 2006 3:03 PM PST 0 recs
agree
by pickinmachine on
Jan 25, 2006 3:11 PM PST
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I dunno
by nothinlikethetown on
Jan 25, 2006 3:19 PM PST
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the more we pay, the better the player
by Brian in 317 on
Jan 25, 2006 5:46 PM PST
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I really like the contract
It's a great contract. From the AP:
Thomas can earn $1.4 million in roster bonuses if he is on the active major league roster or not on the DL related to a left foot injury. He would get $325,000 each on May 1 and June 15, and $375,000 apiece on July 15 and Aug. 15.
He also can earn $1.2 million in performance bonuses: $200,000 each for 300, 350, 400, 450, 500 and 550 plate appearances.
So, even if he's healthy, he's still under $3 million. That seems like a bargain for a player of Thomas's ability.
The danger is if he is playing, but nagging injuries and age diminish his skills. Seems worth the risk.
by kirbyk on Jan 25, 2006 3:04 PM PST 0 recs
Well
by OaktownTribesman on
Jan 25, 2006 4:07 PM PST
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It would have to be hopeless for the
by A s Eh on
Jan 25, 2006 10:17 PM PST
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Payton vs Kielty
As some have written, this is a nice predicament to have; however, it could be bad in terms of how it affects the clubhouse. Payton showed in Boston that he is not one to sit on the bench and be nice about it. Kielty on the other hand, though he too would not be happy, would be more patient and less vocal about his displeasure.
I for one advocate trading Kielty, keeping Payton, and bringing up Charles Thomas or Watson to serve as an emergency OFer of late inning baserunner. Payton is more versatile, can play CF if necessary, and IMO more consistant at the plate (Kielty seems to only produce at the plate when he is in the line-up day in and day-out - not a great attribute for a bench player). It would be easier to give Payton enough PT to keep him happy if that PT is not split with another deserving player such as Kielty.
The only downside is that Kielty will not fetch as much on the market as Payton. Looking at our young crop of players in our farm system, however, I'd say we could survive without obtaining a prized future talent. Maybe some cash and a decent young prospect.
by Captain on Jan 25, 2006 3:06 PM PST 0 recs
Payton v. Kielty
- Payton has a bigger market value than Kielty right now
- Payton makes $4 million in '06 vs. $1.85 million for Kielty
- Payton is 33 years old on opening day, while Kielty's only 29
- Kielty is a switch hitter, Payton bats only Righty
- Kielty's got some good A's mojo-- when he hit that walkoff and fluffed up his hair as he rounded 3rd, everyone started smacking him on the head and he got the team all fired up. Payton, on the other hand, while he embraced his arrival in Oakland, whined in Boston about PT and could be a problem in 2006.
- On the stats side, Payton's line (BA/OBP/SLG/OPS) reads: .267/.306/.444/.750. Kielty's: .263/.350/.395/.745. That's an OPS of -.005 for Kielty, which is negligible. With the addition of Frank Thomas, I'd much rather have Kielty's high OBP than Payton's high SLG%.
by rungood on
Jan 25, 2006 3:19 PM PST
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you forgot
by pickinmachine on
Jan 25, 2006 3:22 PM PST
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you're right about the overall defense, but
Now, I don't know if Beane trades either, and I'm not advocating this. In fact, I think that unless Beane gets a deal that he can't refuse from a team he doesn't mind giving a solid player to, he doesn't trade either guy and keeps the current depth. Our lineup is great right now, so I stand pat if I'm Beane. But if he does trade one, I think it should be Payton.
by rungood on
Jan 25, 2006 3:33 PM PST
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You also forgot
by jeepers on
Jan 25, 2006 3:57 PM PST
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If Kots and MB get hurt at the same time.....
by capper3 on
Jan 25, 2006 3:58 PM PST
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definetly catch your drift
by pickinmachine on
Jan 25, 2006 6:45 PM PST
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I agree Capt.
by IM4Oakgal on
Jan 25, 2006 7:39 PM PST
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wow
by nickatt7 on Jan 25, 2006 3:08 PM PST 0 recs
If Frank gets 400 At-Bats in 2006
150 ABs, and I'll just be woozy.
by Mission1929 on
Jan 25, 2006 4:14 PM PST
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Frank Thomas is eleventh all time in OPS
by SuperDingus on Jan 25, 2006 3:11 PM PST 0 recs
Intimidating...
Go A's!!
by LongTimeFan on Jan 25, 2006 3:25 PM PST 0 recs
Another aspect of this signing
by nothinlikethetown on Jan 25, 2006 3:33 PM PST 0 recs
Hatte is gone.
by Sharon on Jan 25, 2006 3:34 PM PST 0 recs
awww
- Beane signed the contract even though Thomas still doesn't have medical clearance to play, apparently worried that someone else would tempt Thomas with a bigger offer once that happened
- Thomas, for his part, was willing to give up a shot at that bigger contract, instead taking almost no guaranteed money to come to a team that values his approach and has a good chance to win.
by andeux on
Jan 25, 2006 3:48 PM PST
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Oh no!
by Kyli on
Jan 25, 2006 10:15 PM PST
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I love this move
Kendall C
Kotsay CF
Chavez 3B
Thomas DH
Bradley LF
Crosby SS
Swisher RF
Johnson 1B
Ellis 2B
Ellis and Kendall could be switched, but I really think Chavez needs to bat in front of Thomas whether Thomas is 4th or 5th...i.e.
- Bradley
- Chavez
- Thomas
by johnspaz7 on Jan 25, 2006 3:37 PM PST 0 recs
Chavez will have a legitimate
by Blez on
Jan 25, 2006 3:43 PM PST
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god i love the look of that.
i think i prefer Ellis because he shined in the leadoff spot last year and Kendal pulling up the rear because his AVG with reunners in scoring possition was freekn' sweet last year..... and i dont think it unreasonable, with there power, to expect Swish and DJ to make it to second.
oh man im exited.
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