Don't Phunk With My Heart
It's one game. Only one game. But tonight's game was absolutely, incredibly painful. Make no mistake about it, I really don't like that team in red. I hate losing to them pretty much more than any other team.
And tonight, every single break went the Halos' way. From the strike out/wild pitch to Ellis botching what would normally be a routine double-play ball for him to the bare-handed Harden attempt at fielding a ball to Vlad dropping a ball and then throwing out Kielty at second.
And we discussed this already, but with an 0-2 count to Coolio, why would they pitch anywhere near the strike zone? Harden got a pitch in the happy zone and boom, game over. I'm still convinced that Harden couldn't grip the ball properly immediately after taking that ball off his bare hand. I guess we'll have to wait and see what he says to our local beat reporters (as I mentioned in the game thread, I'll be avoid the national boys like the plague - Plaschke and Wilbon will be dying to talk about this one).
The top of the Angels order was the reason for the loss. Figgins, Cabrera, Erstad and Guerrero went a combined 8 for 17 with six runs scored and nine runs driven in.
And interesting note. How far has Rincon's stock fallen? He's mop-up duty now with Yabu.
Tomorrow we've got Barry Zito going against Santana's Evil Ways. Let's hope Z brings his A game.
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I hate these nights
by WhiteElephantGuy on Aug 9, 2005 10:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I feel like a dirty Giants fan
by Hit4TheCycle on Aug 9, 2005 10:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rincon
Everyone else is on fire - and I don't recall him doing any evil either. And Yabu hasn't pitched bad. Beane's theory at the start of the year that we needed a great bullpen has come true - in spades.
I think it's mainly that the trade has turned out better than anyone hoped.
Wisasckicif and Kenneday have been very solid arms - and Rincon was never above Duke, Street, or Kiko.
by Zakolantern on Aug 9, 2005 10:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
or did I miss something
by Zakolantern on Aug 9, 2005 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you F#$% high?!
by DeeWayne on Aug 9, 2005 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uhhh, yes it is.
by DeeWayne on Aug 9, 2005 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See my reply
by Zakolantern on Aug 9, 2005 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is true
by burnone on Aug 9, 2005 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey DeeWayne,
by Checkswing HR on Aug 9, 2005 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My boy?
Though, Rincon hasn't been much to write home about recently...
by nycfan on Aug 9, 2005 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummmmmmmmmm
Sure - you may not like Rincon - he makes everone a bit nervous whenever he's out there - but he's clearly been a quite good LOOGIE this season.
For evidence: Right-handers are batting 0.205 against him. That is excellent.
As Korach and Fosse have said, as well as many on these boards - he's scary because he used to only come in with the best right-handed hitters or best parts of the opposing lineup at bat, and usually with men on base - considering that's the role he's had, his actual numbers don't even do him justice.
Other people have less loud thoughts?
by Zakolantern on Aug 9, 2005 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're right about Rincon...
by FoolshGame22 on Aug 9, 2005 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Given that Dee Wayne
So in sum, yes Zakolantern, you ARE high--on the ol' credibility meter. :-}
by Nico on Aug 9, 2005 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
by Zakolantern on Aug 9, 2005 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My whole point about Rincon
by Tyler Bleszinski on Aug 9, 2005 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But also on the same lines...
by Melody on Aug 9, 2005 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why We All Hate Rincon
Garrett career v. Rikky:
7-13, 3 2b, 1 hr, 9 RBI
by OnePointToBuckner on Aug 9, 2005 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's always one guy that's got your number.
by gojohn10 on Aug 9, 2005 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No hate for Macha
I will say, though, that one of the things that's great about this site is how differently all of us that love this team so much can see things. I literally cannot watch when Rincon comes in, but you guys think he's great. I gotta be with DeeWayne (and hopefully I can be as drunk as him soon) on this one.
by OnePointToBuckner on Aug 9, 2005 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a poster who cringes when she
by Checkswing HR on Aug 9, 2005 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I cringe when I see Rincon
by gigglingone on Aug 10, 2005 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I too cringe when I see Rincon warming up
by batgirl on Aug 10, 2005 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
keeping with the stats
Those are mindboggling good numbers.
If I read those and I was Macha...I'd use him too.
(And I assume you meant righties not lefties - since Rincon and Witasick are both better against righties not lefties)
by Zakolantern on Aug 9, 2005 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I meant lefties in that
by Tyler Bleszinski on Aug 9, 2005 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
a great stat
Rincon has a 1.03 WHIP and a .171 BAA with RISP against him - again a big part of his job has been coming in with RISP, and he has CLEARLY excelled in that role since you asked me for stats.
by Zakolantern on Aug 9, 2005 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at Rincon's ERA.
by DeeWayne on Aug 9, 2005 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In an effort
All of the articles I have read from reputable stats sources (examples are www.baseballprospectus.com or www.hardballtimes.com ) one and all say that ERA is one of the least meaningful statistic for a pitcher.
And especially in this case.
Why?
Because the runners that are on base when a relief pitcher comes in will not count against his ERA. So if you're looking at how good Rincon is at keeping inhereted runners from scoring, his RISP ERA is totally meaningless.
AN: PLEASE someone comment to make sure that what I just said was right - I'm feeling nervous about blanket statements after my foot-in-mouth about LOOGYs.
by Zakolantern on Aug 9, 2005 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think OPS against is the
Rincon has a .762 OPS vs. lefties this year, which is about league average. He can do better.
by Checkswing HR on Aug 9, 2005 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What zako said...
The CGV is knocking at your door right now =P.
by WhiteElephantGuy on Aug 9, 2005 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should add
by Zakolantern on Aug 9, 2005 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also
by WhiteElephantGuy on Aug 9, 2005 10:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Game 160
by CrazierthanYOU on Aug 9, 2005 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This game is more proof
Sometimes the young guys will play young and the vets aren't that much better. Tomorrow's game is one that (on paper) the A's should win: Zito against their rookie Santana. Unfortunately, this rookie is much more stellar at night, so hopefully the A's make him work tomorrow.
I'm keeping my pinkies and toes and everything else crossed that today was the accumulation of all the negative karma we had coming our way and that it's all out of our system.
by nycfan on Aug 9, 2005 10:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Angels have more talent, hands down.
by FoolshGame22 on Aug 9, 2005 10:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is that
by Checkswing HR on Aug 9, 2005 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, Chavvy and I...
by FoolshGame22 on Aug 9, 2005 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
correct me if I am wrong
The only mistake the A's will make is if they start Blanton over Sarloos in game 3, give the guys an extra days rest, it is still a long season.
Tonight was a wake up call, the players have been reading too much about how good they are, needed a nice sound trouncing, good for the soul.
by china bob on Aug 9, 2005 10:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They are starting Blanton
by nycfan on Aug 9, 2005 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Los Kirk
13 ER in 16 IP this year.
by OnePointToBuckner on Aug 9, 2005 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
The Angels were better Tuesday night. They got all the breaks. That's fine; just reload and go back at it the next day as if the loss never happened. This will prove as much about the A's as anything else they've been through in 2005.
by crosis on Aug 10, 2005 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at 3 key plays:
- Ellis' error
- Harden bobbling squeeze bunt
- Harden trying to barehand comebacker
The breaks didn't go our way, but we were thoroughly outclassed--maybe a good thing for a team that might have been getting cocky (and who could blame them).
Nothing a little Zito and Blanton, and a deep, rested bullpen can't solve. The A's are in great shape, with an important reminder in the bank all for the price of one loss: it ain't gonna come as easy as it might have seemed the last 2 months.
by Nico on Aug 9, 2005 10:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Like I said
by Tyler Bleszinski on Aug 9, 2005 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I rather have a 4 game sweep
by WhiteElephantGuy on Aug 9, 2005 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 Key Plays
by gdubb925 on Aug 10, 2005 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was at the game
I felt the same way as Blez on Vlad's 4th pitch in the 2nd; "Throw him junk!" i screamed. That he got a pitch to hit (albeit he hits almost anything) really shocked me.
I think a lot of air just left the park at that point, I've never seen the Coliseum go into such a state of shock. Nobody's seen Harden do that, nobody, it was truly baffling.
Go get em today boys, its another day, and the series is still yours for the taking!
GO A's!!!!!
by popcornjames on Aug 10, 2005 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
High Sock Alert!
New rookie Anthony Reyes rocking the garish and IMO kick-ass Cardinals high-socks.
by JLaff on Aug 9, 2005 10:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
love them socks!
by LLawbug on Aug 9, 2005 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't mind blowout losses
Sorry for the derail [I'm good at this] but I'm really making the "I visited AthleticsNation..." shirt for Mychael Urban, but does anyone know what size I shirt I should get? Because I have absolutely no clue how men's shirts are sized and I'd like to not be completely off base. I know Urban's a big guy though, if I remember correctly he's either 6'4 or 6'6 [and a lefty too].
by Melody on Aug 9, 2005 10:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't worry about morale--
by Nico on Aug 9, 2005 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This was a "money" game
The A's have to adopt that attitude from this loss. They have to remind themselves that they have a kick-ass team and that the loss came from getting psyched out. They can't dwell on the fact that their #1 starter pitched like Brett Tomko.
by Checkswing HR on Aug 9, 2005 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It gives you a glimpse
by Nico on Aug 9, 2005 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good teams ' Rise to the occaison"
The A's have benefitted to a great degree from teams that just didn't take them seriously over the last two months. The Angels knew better.
by Rob on Aug 9, 2005 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that's the case, then
Beckett said Bonds was "just another batter."
by Checkswing HR on Aug 9, 2005 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fortunately...
Sometimes, at least in the regular season, I think too much is made out of the result of the opening games of big series, forgetting that the next two games can change everything. The A's, as with any good team, can have a klunker at any time -- and unfairly or not, they're magnified when the game is against a division rival you're trying to take down.
I'd rather analyze whether or not these A's aren't ready for prime time until after the series ends.
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Aug 10, 2005 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's closer to 6'6"
by Tyler Bleszinski on Aug 9, 2005 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
my dad is that size
by LLawbug on Aug 9, 2005 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you need to get a 2XL
by burnone on Aug 9, 2005 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where am I going to find that? :(
by Melody on Aug 9, 2005 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you need...
by LLawbug on Aug 9, 2005 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big and Tall?
by Melody on Aug 9, 2005 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I hearing
by WhiteElephantGuy on Aug 9, 2005 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On AN Day, the High Socks Crew
by Checkswing HR on Aug 9, 2005 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be a good photo
by Checkswing HR on Aug 9, 2005 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually
by gojohn10 on Aug 9, 2005 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We could make him
by Tyler Bleszinski on Aug 9, 2005 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
isnt
by NYC on Aug 10, 2005 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Macha's probably saying to Rincon:
by Checkswing HR on Aug 9, 2005 10:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
In fact,
by Nico on Aug 9, 2005 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting Opinion
Kennedy was warming (according to the radio) in the second inning for if Macha decided to yank Harden (good thing he left him in).
An amazing thing about our bullpen: We have THREE people who would be great as a LOOGY - most teams barely have one.
by Zakolantern on Aug 9, 2005 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frankly,
by Nico on Aug 9, 2005 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I don't understand the difference between in Macha's mind between Yabu and Kennedy - Kennedy has looked great since joining the A's, but that is too small a sample size for any stats I could quote to mean anything - in general, I personally find them pretty interchanable - the "long relief guy"
by Zakolantern on Aug 9, 2005 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rincon, Kennedy, and ... who?
by Checkswing HR on Aug 9, 2005 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just got back from the game
by burnone on Aug 9, 2005 10:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
spill beer on them...
by FoolshGame22 on Aug 9, 2005 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOOGYs? Versus Righties
Witasick: 0.82 WHIP .176 BAA - unreal
Rincon: 1.32 WHIP, .205 BAA - quite good
Kennedy: 1.90 WHIP, .332 BAA - LOUSY numbers, but partly compiled at Coors where he was pitching horridly.
My opinion: obviously Nico and I were mistaken on paper at least - Kennedy doesn't look like Loogy material. The other two are both quite good at the role.
by Zakolantern on Aug 9, 2005 10:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LOOGYs
by Nico on Aug 9, 2005 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just looked it up:
by Nico on Aug 9, 2005 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Skewed upward, of course, by the
by Checkswing HR on Aug 9, 2005 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but...
by Zakolantern on Aug 9, 2005 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stand corrected
In exchange for my mistake: here is a facinating article on the origin and use of LOOGYs:
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/a-history-of-the-loogy-part-one/
Well worth your time.
by Zakolantern on Aug 9, 2005 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LeftOOGY
by Furious George on Aug 9, 2005 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm confused
- Witakick is a right handed pitcher. He's not a loogy
- These are LOOGY stats vs. righties? and if so
by gojohn10 on Aug 9, 2005 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Witasick is a righty
by Tyler Bleszinski on Aug 9, 2005 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was mistaken about
and got it a bit mixed up.
But the stats are still interesting - :-) - just with a different term to the pitcher.
by Zakolantern on Aug 9, 2005 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
by Tyler Bleszinski on Aug 9, 2005 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go to bed
by DeeWayne on Aug 9, 2005 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Career
For example last year:
vs lefties:
.200 BAA
.92 WHIP
Career vs lefties:
.208 BAA
1.02 WHIP
So this year could be argued to be the exception.
by Zakolantern on Aug 9, 2005 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go to bed
by DeeWayne on Aug 9, 2005 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's only one game
by gojohn10 on Aug 9, 2005 10:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And struck out nine!
I think the effects of that comebacker on his hand -- if any -- were minor and temporary.
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Aug 10, 2005 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More breaks
Regarding Rincon, do we know if Beane shopped him around at the deadline? He's a free agent so a deal would have made sense unless Beane wants to save him and get the draft pick(s) at the end of the season. Draft picks are great, but we all know how that worked out as far as Dotel and Durazo go though.
by Furious George on Aug 9, 2005 10:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
well....
by the way, a special thanks to gdubb925 in section 218. a foul ball of ernsted glanced off his hands and into mine, got my first game ball since i caught a canseco bomb in 1988
lets go zito!!
by oak in nam on Aug 9, 2005 11:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
foul ball!
by gojohn10 on Aug 9, 2005 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad I met you!
by gdubb925 on Aug 10, 2005 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm drinking an alcoholic beverage right now...
by gojohn10 on Aug 9, 2005 11:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
baseballgirl...
by Tyler Bleszinski on Aug 9, 2005 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
$40 worth of beer
by gdubb925 on Aug 10, 2005 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tough loss, indeed
Why?
Because Harden DID NOT PITCH POORLY. His only real mistake was the Vlad homer (of course), but if you look at his peripherals, he pitched very well! 9 K's in 6 innings. SHUT DOWN the Angels after 2. And the homer? He never should have been pitching to Vlad in that particular situation. How many things had the go wrong to set up that matchup?
In the first two innings, Harden and the A's were the victims (as they often are in big games) of the most atrocious luck imaginable. In the first, if Ellis turns 2, the Angels very likely score 1 and that's all. In the second, without the wild pitch on the K, the inning likely looks like this:
- Finley K's (1 out)
- Kennedy singles
- Figgins flies out (2 outs)
- And then you have the Cabrera play, the error, which allowed Finley to score. If Finley isn't on 3rd to begin with, perhaps the play is made, or at worst, no run is scored on the error.
- Erstad may never come up ... as a result, Vlad may never come up, or if he does, it isn't with the bases loaded and 1 out, already down 3-0.
That's why this hurts. Harden didn't get "shelled." The Angels didn't bury the A's with "small ball." One or two errors, unlucky plays, gave away the game, put Vlad in the position to blow it open, and he did.
This all being said, Lackey pitched so well that we may not have won even if Harden only gave up 1 or 2 runs. That's the only consolation I can take from this game.
I know it sounds like sour grapes, but when you watch every game this carefully, every play becomes magnified. A loss is never just a loss.
by Crosbino on Aug 9, 2005 11:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, except:
The A's are quick learners, so one "youth-related" loss worth a valuable education = not a horrible night, really.
by Nico on Aug 9, 2005 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, Nico
I know you can't take the bad plays away, and you have to give the Angels credit ... I just don't want to see us get bashed on ESPN for getting killed. We didn't play that poorly. It just didn't go our way.
You must admit, though, those kind of "freak" plays have become a hallmark of this team in big games. Let's hope we break that habit.
by Crosbino on Aug 9, 2005 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I wouldn't
And Harden didn't pitch badly, but he fielded really badly, and as luck would have it, that affected us as much as bad pitches would have.
by Nico on Aug 9, 2005 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, not a horrible night
by gojohn10 on Aug 9, 2005 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harden did just about everything wrong
- WP
- E
- Slammer
Maybe it's good for Harden to fail in this acid test of a game. He hasn't pitched in a lot of big games, so maybe this experience will toughen (harden?) him up a bit.
by Brian in 317 on Aug 10, 2005 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ummmm...
by FoolshGame22 on Aug 9, 2005 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
If Harden was getting "hammered," Macha would have pulled him after 2. His stuff was okay, and once the crazy plays stopped, Harden dominated again.
Again, just sayin ...
I know we can't change it.
by Crosbino on Aug 9, 2005 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
But it's still a loss.
by Zakolantern on Aug 9, 2005 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Macha left Harden in...
by FoolshGame22 on Aug 9, 2005 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, good for Rich
by Nico on Aug 9, 2005 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To his credit...
by FoolshGame22 on Aug 9, 2005 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still gave up 9 hits thru 3 innings...
It happens, live and learn.
by OaktownPower on Aug 9, 2005 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In other words...
The very young Rich Harden that got lit up in the first couple of innings ... and the Rich Harden that the rest of the American League casts a weary eye toward.
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Aug 10, 2005 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't worry
Z goes tomorrow.
Life will be fine 24 hours from now
by oaktoon on Aug 9, 2005 11:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Harden has been more than good enough to grant a mulligan for tonight, although his 0-2 efforts are a little stubborn. Turn the tables tomorrow, scratch one out on Thursday and move on. If the playoffs started tomorrow the A's would be in - as long as we can say that everything is fine.
by southofcruiseamerica on Aug 9, 2005 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Postive note
He's always a great interview in my mind, and I really like this one.
by Zakolantern on Aug 9, 2005 11:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think if they boxed for it...
by FoolshGame22 on Aug 9, 2005 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
GO Cupcakes GO
by Zakolantern on Aug 9, 2005 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah, he'd tired to quickly
by gojohn10 on Aug 9, 2005 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Johnson would have a chance...
by FoolshGame22 on Aug 9, 2005 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Extra Innings
by JLaff on Aug 9, 2005 11:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
usually the Field Irish Pub...
by FoolshGame22 on Aug 9, 2005 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tonights game
Its just depressing to see them come out before such a big crowd and put up that kind of performance.
This one loss doesn't mean much, but the A's have to come out tomorrow and show that they can recover from it.
Its true that getting swept wouldn't drop them out of the race--we know they theoretically could make up three games---but what would it do for their morale?
by Alien on Aug 9, 2005 11:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and
by Alien on Aug 9, 2005 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am stoked
Now DeeWayne will say I've had one too many bong hits. ;)
by Checkswing HR on Aug 9, 2005 11:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
pass the bong...
by FoolshGame22 on Aug 9, 2005 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd ask for a hit
by Zakolantern on Aug 10, 2005 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are all under arrest...
by MemphisA on Aug 10, 2005 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm "confiscating" this contraband...
by ArakSOT on Aug 10, 2005 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ummmmm.....
by burnone on Aug 10, 2005 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All your bong...
by McFood on Aug 10, 2005 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a pretty obscure reference, McF
by ArakSOT on Aug 10, 2005 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I was there.
Once again, it was Chavy providing the few sparks. Hopefully he had something to say to the gang in the locker room. That game was embarassing. I came home to find out FSN had broadcast it in all its gory detail in HD. Yikes.
Sure, a couple of balls almost went out by a few inches. And sure, the Angels appeared to be getting all the breaks. But damn. I hope my 2/3 prediction for the series outcome still holds up.
by El Payo on Aug 9, 2005 11:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah I agrre with you,
Never seemed like the got loose.
Reminded me of the I think it was game one agains't Min. a few years ago.
by Mike Heath on Aug 10, 2005 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The perils of youth
Harden was simply too amped up early, the defense was poor, Vlad was Vlad, and we weren't hitting anyway.
The Angels did what they can do - put pressure on the defense with their speed, deliver the knockout blow with their superstar, and get excellent pitching. They're a veteran team, and it showed tonight.
Unless the A's are swept, I think they will be fine. The team probably needed a reminder that they need to mind their Ps and Qs.
by bear88 on Aug 10, 2005 12:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
BOBBLE BALL.
It was not a pretty sight tonight.
Ellis bobbles a ball, a sure double-play.
Harding bobbles a play at the plate.
Not a pretty sight.
The boys in green 'n gold did not look like golden boys, but they sure looked a little green.
Harding was throwing hard. Except for the grand salami, not very many of his pitches were hit all that hard.
The game just seemed to bobble along, lots of red crossing the plate; not my favorite all-time game, that's for sure.
I think the day game crowd, generally speaking, seems to be more into the game than the night game crowd. It's just an observation; one that annoyed me like around the fourth inning.
Most of these so-called fans seem more concerned about getting their hot dogs and beers than they are about watching the actual game. From where I sat, most of them just sat there, stuffing their faces, chewing the fat, figuratively and literally.
Blah blah blah, gulp gulp gulp, burp, burp, burp ...
Hey, there's a game going on down there on the field!
But no, everybody's either blabbering or adding more blubber.
Okay, Wednesday is Zito. The Halos don't have a prayer.
Especially if Hatteberg is back.
Maybe Kotsay, too? (Let's all bow our heads and pray.)
Time to kickass, A's.
And the ass I want you to kick is Angelic.
Win BIG!
by Edwinwinwin on Aug 10, 2005 12:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That's it!
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Aug 10, 2005 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe...
by MemphisA on Aug 10, 2005 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
rich harding
by burnone on Aug 10, 2005 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i have never
by CrosbysGirl510 on Aug 10, 2005 12:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
no big deal
i saw a guy with an AN shirt at the game, i didn't say anything because last time i did it was someone who barely even knew what AN was.
we regulars need a secret handshake.
by xbhaskarx on Aug 10, 2005 2:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Clearly
by doublehustle22 on Aug 10, 2005 2:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Defeats
by redruin on Aug 10, 2005 2:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I for one am not worried
Blez is right about the fact that certain media people are going to soak this game up and run their mouths. It was just one game. That's it, one game!
I'd rather have lost this way than to see Street/bullpen blow a late lead.
I think we needed a game like this. A game where we played our worst baseball in several months. Tonight (thank God on ESPN) we'll see what this team is made of. I think we'll bounce back tonight. The hitters need to make Santana work, unlike the last time they faced him.
Let the anti-A's media people bask in their glory for this one day. For as quickly they will open their mouths, Z can close them after tonight!
Remember everyone...it was just ONE game!
by Unuscione on Aug 10, 2005 4:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So...
Harden didn't let the Vlad slam faze him and came back strong with four shutout innings. Shows how quickly he has matured right before our eyes.
We have Zito out there tonight so I feel extremely confident we'll force a rubber game Wednesday afternoon. Hopefully the breaks will go our way the rest of the series and I look forward to us being in sole possession of first place when we welcome the Twinkies to town on Friday.
Let's put on a show for the nation tonight and show em who's the best out West.
As they say, payback's a bitch. Win big boys, win big.
Go A's!!!
by baseballnut020 on Aug 10, 2005 4:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The tv is off this morning
by ak_A on Aug 10, 2005 7:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sugar, we're going down swinging...
This was a kRaZeE game I'd like to forget.
<slits wrists>
by Jennifer on Aug 10, 2005 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I won't even read the game recaps.
Today is No Media Day.
by Sharon on Aug 10, 2005 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh...
Don't look at ESPN!
I really thought Rich was going to pitch out of the mess in the second. :(
DON'T PUT YOUR HAND UP!
by Jennifer on Aug 10, 2005 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And is it just me...
by Jennifer on Aug 10, 2005 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not just you. I've noticed too.
by ak_A on Aug 10, 2005 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they say it's b/c
by Sharon on Aug 10, 2005 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we get someone to replace him?
by Jennifer on Aug 10, 2005 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
bring back sandy!!!
by burnone on Aug 10, 2005 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
there now are guys that
by captainamerica on Aug 10, 2005 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Inconsistent is an understatement...
I would also like to comment on the the umpires themselves. A lot of them seem to be severely overweight & moldy oldies... Does anyone agree that umpires should at least be semi-fit & no older than 50 or so?
& a few questions... Who holds these umps accountable for their mistakes? Does it just not matter how many blown calls they make? Are they regularly tested for the ability to make correct calls? If they are tested on a consistent basis, then that's where the problem is... The test must be very easy to pass because the umps just plain suck. They suck so bad that I was shocked when Michael Young was called OUT on that Kendall play. I expected the ump to blow it.
by Quiet1 on Aug 10, 2005 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think age and weight
I don't want to sound like Ron Gardenhire or Larry Bowa, but some of the umps seem like they are just looking for a reason to toss people.
Again, I'm not just talking about calls for or against the A's.
A little note about Bruce Froemming umpiring Saturday's KC game. Not ONCE did he wipe off home plate. Even after Swish completely covered the dish sliding home, he didn't brush it off. John Buck had to kick the dirt off half-assed with his cleats. I don't know if this is my OCD kicking in or what, but isn't being able to see important?
by Jennifer on Aug 10, 2005 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to disagree...
I'm sure that certain umps DO look for trouble. It must make them feel important & powerful to toss someone.
I have to admit, I also get a bit compulsive about a clean plate. It is... well... It SHOULD BE important to keep it clean.
by Quiet1 on Aug 10, 2005 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both of you
by McFood on Aug 10, 2005 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure,
by Jennifer on Aug 10, 2005 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, evenly stacked and once that is
by ak_A on Aug 10, 2005 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
was that
by tankerraid on Aug 10, 2005 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To Left Field denizens:
by captainamerica on Aug 10, 2005 7:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
BOOM......THUD......CRASH....
by BleacherDave on Aug 10, 2005 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's why we got Kendall
by davestewart on Aug 10, 2005 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's only ONE game!!
About last night's game: besides the errors on the A's part, I don't think the ump calling looking strike-outs on the A's helped either. Suddenly they were out of their game because they couldn't take pitches and wear down Lackey. Instead the ump was calling all this crap strikes so they had to start swinging. Offensively I thought the UMP helped to take the A's out of their game.
by Durden on Aug 10, 2005 8:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm less concerned with the 9 than the 2
Regardless of how good our pitching may be, we can't assume that 2 runs will ever beat the other team.
by kimnjerry on Aug 10, 2005 8:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The "O"
You take away the first two innings, and the A's didn't play that poorly. Of course, you can't just do that---but they ARE a young team, they were over-amped. Zito will calm them tonight---let Ervin Santana make young pitcher mistakes.
by Alien on Aug 10, 2005 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Potpourri
There is still nearly a third of the season to go. So even losing two out of three here, putting us but one game back, is not the worst thing in the world. Even being swept would hardly eliminate the A's from fighting for the division--but it obviously would hurt.
I started a diary saying that the Indians had the best chance for the wildcard because they played 40% of their remaining games--20 games--vs the two worst teams in the league: KC and Tampa. And last night underscored why Cleveland was in the driver's seat. Going into the 9th inning, KC was ahead by five runs and Cleveland scored 11! KC contributed three errors in the inning and had two out when still ahead 7-4. I think KC is the worst team (even poorer than Detriot of two years ago who, at least, had some good young prospects) I have seen in a couple of decades and I believe the Indians will cut through the Royals like butter in the numerous games they have left with one another. Hence, it would be best for the A's to take their division and not count upon winning the wild card.
Finally, since I also have been on the receiving end of someone asking to "ban" me, in seeing another poster have to deal with this may I remind members of AN that Blez has set up a committee to enforce community standards. If that committee determines a poster is in violation, I'm certain that said poster will be delivered "a strike" as Blez outlined. Apparently, some posters believe they should take this function on themselves. They remind one of a little kid crying for his mother because he claimed he was being abused by his big brother.
In sum, would those not on the enforcement committee kindly stop playing Community Standards Cops on this board? Blez has already set in motion the appropriate apparatus to handle this issue...
by reztips on Aug 10, 2005 9:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't ban Rez!
by BruceBochte on Aug 10, 2005 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
count me in..
by davestewart on Aug 10, 2005 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
any specific reason?
by xbhaskarx on Aug 10, 2005 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the other hand,
by ArakSOT on Aug 10, 2005 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the plus side
by Alien on Aug 10, 2005 10:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
In a glutton for punishment mood
Now, I don't know if the person who posted this was even AT the game last night, but they had this to say:
"Bay Area
Their #1 industry is tourism - more of us there then them."
Now, am I on drugs or are they? While I saw some red, heard cheering after the GS, and saw copious amounts of those horrid thundersticks, I think A's fans (genuine and curious) far outstripped the Angels fans...
by tankerraid on Aug 10, 2005 10:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the sea of red
by burnone on Aug 10, 2005 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's out of his mind
by batgirl on Aug 10, 2005 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Today is a new day
by pachydermOAFC on Aug 10, 2005 10:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Go Red Sux!!!
by capper3 on Aug 10, 2005 10:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it was the weather..
by davestewart on Aug 10, 2005 11:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good news thus far on Wednesday
by bear88 on Aug 10, 2005 1:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
an amazing three
by Zakolantern on Aug 10, 2005 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only explanation for yesterday
by Englishmajor on Aug 10, 2005 2:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
downtown SF bar w/game?
by miguel on Aug 10, 2005 5:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Shoot.....No Kots AGAIN
by OaktownPower on Aug 10, 2005 6:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought he was supposed to
by AsGirl on Aug 10, 2005 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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