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Billy Beane Midseason Interview Part I

The Oakland Athletics have had a yo-yo season thus far, sinking to the farthest depths in May and now starting to soar.

Recently, Billy Beane sat down with me.  I don't want to toot my own horn, but since Billy talked with me, the A's have scored 34 runs in four games and won all four. Is this mere coincidence?

Hmmmm...Billy might have to make this a weekly meeting.

Without further ado, here is part one of my conversation with A's GM and now part owner of the Athletics, Billy Beane.

Blez:  Talk about this 2005 team.  Is it more or less what you expected?

Billy Beane:  Yes, in some individual cases.  The thing that we've had to recover from that you can't expect is that injuries just decimated us.  At no point this season have we had the team on the field that we expected starting in spring training when (Chad) Bradford went down.  And now, we won't be able to put that team on the field given Dotel's injury and possibly Durazo.  He's slow to recover.  That being said, we have the majority of the players back and in one individual's case, that being Crosby, I think since he returned we're 15-9.  We felt like when the whole team was on the field it would be a good team and one that developed and would have its ups and downs.  From an individual standpoint, the pitchers have been no surprise with how they've done.  Specifically, Blanton and Haren early in the year.  Their early season ups and downs are exactly what you would expect from young guys.  

Now what you're starting to see is a more consistent level of pitching each time they go out and each one is starting to feed off the other.  Rich's (Harden) injury was huge for us.  I think the Seattle series is a great example.  You start off with Danny continuing with the way he's throwing, then you back that up with Rich Harden and then you've got Zito.  I mean Z has pitched great and he should've won that game.  And then out of nowhere comes Saarloos who is now your fifth starter.  But there was a time when we had to call up Ryan Glynn in an emergency situation.  So you've got a number of guys going back-to-back-to-back where it's very difficult to get anything going.  I mean, Ryan has done a great job under the circumstances as has Kirk.  But we had a stretch there in May where literally every night we were trying to find able bodies to fill in which would explain all the transactions we were doing.  That was coupled with the fact that our Triple-A team was decimated.  Because with (Dan) Meyer and John Rheinecker, who was pitching fantastic, going down it was tough on the organization.

Blez:  What's the prognosis on Rheinecker?

Beane:  You know it's frustrating.  He has a tendon problem in his finger.  He's seen a couple of specialists but still there is no return date in sight.  It's a shame because he was pitching than at any other point in his career.  And quite frankly, he would've gotten an opportunity here and we would've loved to have taken advantage of that.  But I'm pleased.  I'm happy and I'm enjoying what's going on.  When you start to see the team on the field, and still it's not completely there, but it's been a lot of fun.  I've enjoyed seeing the guys, and I've enjoyed seeing Duchscherer's progress.  It's a shame that Bobby (Crosby) missed the first two months of the season because as a second year player, he's been important.

Blez:  He looks a like a completely different player with a great approach.

Beane:  He's going to be a great player.  But watching Duke's progress, Huston Street, and we're just so much further along.  I always compare things to 93.  But we're just so much further along because of the young players we have now and the young players we've got coming.   I'm looking forward to seeing Jairo (Garcia) get a chance here.  We sent him down to make sure he continued to get his innings in but he's making progress at the Triple-A level.

Blez:  So you sent him down to make sure that you had that extra starter still here, or a just in case situation?

Beane:  Yeah, and we didn't want to use Jairo up here as just an emergency-type guy.  Just because there was a chance he could sit for 10 days and not get a chance to pitch.  So we wanted to take advantage of the fact that he's pitching well.  He came up here and threw a good inning, let's get him back down.

Blez:  To help build his confidence up.

Beane:  Yeah, exactly.  He's very young.  He's only 22.  And Calero's injury, it looks like now he's starting to get back to his pre-injury days.  Kiko is still a 2+ player, so the bulk of this team is still incredibly young.  Swish has had some great days, he's had some not-so-great days, but that's to be expected.  So I'm actually pleased, it's been a lot of fun.  

Blez:  Is this the type of season where you try to not look at the wins and losses as much as the progress on the field?  I mean, obviously you want to be competitive, but you're building toward something better here.

Beane:  There's two answers to that.  In the month of May we weren't doing anything except trying to keep our head above water.  There was nothing going on.  We were just trying to put a team on the field, that's how bad the injuries were.  So that interrupted any development.  With that being said, I still think we can develop and be a competitive club at the same time.  That's what you're starting to see now which was always the plan.  The month of May, just throw it off the map, because there is nothing you can learn from that situation.  It was a disaster from an injury standpoint.  It was far too much talent and far too many guys.

Blez:  Is that where the small market classification comes into play?  Because you look at a team like the Red Sox and they have the deeper bench because they have that $100 million payroll.

Beane: It's not just trying to get by with say, losing Rich Harden.  Because we didn't have Crosby, Dotel, Calero and Duchscherer was out for 10 days.  We couldn't put him on the DL because we really had no one to replace him and we knew he was only going to be out about 10 days.  We didn't want to lose him for 15 by putting him on the DL.  You take Bradford out too and he's been an important part of our bullpen these past few years.  One guy you can get by on, but when you're talking about six or seven guys there's no way.  It's not an excuse, it's a fact.  The month of May was just one of those months where you say, let's just get through this thing.  

Now the good thing with all this is that there creates opportunities.  With Octavio going down, Huston Street gets the opportunity.

Blez:  A lot earlier than expected.

Beane:  Exactly.  And so now as we sit here today you can say, well we've wrestled with that closer spot the last couple of years.  Maybe we have been presented the opportunity to have that taken care of.  Duke's been great too.  He went from being a long reliever to a spot starter to now he's closing games.  It's not the ideal role for him, but at least he's proven himself capable.  He's a really valuable guy to us.  But now as the guys start to come back, you can see the development and develop as well as be competitive which is what the whole plan was all along.  I think it's really unfair to judge the month of May.  I mean we went 4-20 at one point.

Blez:  Yet, the team seems to be climbing closer to .500 every day.

Beane:  Yeah, but it's a big hole.  We know why the hole was there and you can't point fingers at anybody.

Blez:  You were talking about starting to build now and be more competitve.  We're getting near the time of year when GMs make the decision about whether they are going to be buyers or sellers at the trading deadline.  Is that something you've already made a decision about?  Or are you going to wait to see how things play out over the next several weeks?

Beane:  That's always an easy question to answer.  We are always both.  There's never been a year that we aren't both.  The goal here is not to have a cute little team that's competitive.  The goal here is to have a team where year after year we are competing for a playoff spot.  That's always the way I think.  We want to be good for a long time.  We're always going to be both.  

Part of the reason we're both and not just buyers is in part because of the market situation we're in.  But it's also healthy (to be both a buyer and seller).  I don't see a change in that.  We've always been involved in the deadline one way or the other.   We will continue to be.  But our goal is to be good here, year after year after year.  So when you look on the field, you see Crosby and say, he's going to be here five years, player X is going to be here five years.  We don't shoot for .500 here.  We never have.  We're not going to do that.  Our goal is something we will attain and we're going to do it as quickly as we can.  It's not this five-year rebuilding plan.

Blez:  You already talked about May and the offense was well...

Beane: We struggled to say the least.

Blez:  Yeah.  Have you ever seen a team go into team-wide funk all at once like this team did?  And how tough was it for you to be patient and not run out and throw a band-aid over it?

Beane:  I was patient because you take someone like Chavy.  You know he's going to come around, it's just a matter of when.  And his impact on the lineup is huge.  You knew when he picked it up, well, it's as simple as looking at his good days.  When he has good days, everyone else does.  So you knew he was eventually going to come around.  He's only 27 years old, remember.  The offense, in fairness to them, when guys are hurt, each guys have a tendency of trying to be the hero with each at-bat they have.  We got in a very bad funk there and there's no explanation except to try and be patient.  One of the things that we are severely lacking in, and it's due to the erosion of losing some guys, is the power.  It's an area we need to address going forward.  Not just short term, but long term.  When you don't have power, each game you have is likely to be a close game, even when you win, it's a tight game.  Like the game in Seattle the other night when we won 5-0.  You add power and those games become 7-0 or 8-0 games, as opposed to every game being a 3-2, 4-2 game.  

Power is the great separator.  You can manufacture your butt to one run, but after a while, luck is going to hurt you.  

Blez:  Moving forward then, you'd say power is one area where you'd like to upgrade?

Beane:  Yeah, but it's not easy to find and it's expensive.  That's why we no longer have it.  Because when we develop it, we lose it through free agency.  We lost Jason (Giambi), a 35-40 home run guy and Miguel (Tejada), the same thing.  Now, there's going to be power developed from some of the guys within, like from Crosby.  But he's a second-year player.  You don't expect him to go out and hit 30 homers.  It's going to come over time, but in the short term, waiting for it is going to be difficult.  You go to the team stats of every team and the teams that hit home runs are going to score runs.  The one consistent thing for scoring a lot of runs is getting on base and slugging.  You can have 1,000 stolen bases, but if you don't have power to go along with it you're not going to be bringing those guys home.  And that's why Boston is so deadly.  You look at those two games there.  Home run.  Boom, boom, game over, see you later.  You're never out of a game if you have the ability to hit one over the fence.  

Blez:  You alluded to this earlier.  The offense seemed to awaken when Bobby Crosby came back.  Do you attribute that to coincidence or does he bring something intangible to this group?

Beane:  He is such a critical link.  He's right-handed.  And we tend to be left-handed heavy.  He provides much more depth to the lineup, so I don't think it's coincidence at all.  Marco (Scutaro) has done a spectacular job filling in for him and filling in for two guys the last two years.  But Croz is such a critical link to that lineup.  His presence pushes everyone else down and he's right-handed protection in front of, or behind at some point, Chavy.  So I don't think it's a coincidence at all.

Blez:  With the team's early-season struggles, so many fans and columnists began pointing at Chavy and the decision to sign Chavy to a long-term deal reportedly over Miguel Tejada.  Do you care to respond to the people who said this?

Beane:  First of all, we signed Chavy during last spring training.  Then he goes out and wins another gold glove, leads the league in walks, misses six weeks and hits 29 home runs.  So no one writes anything then.  What they do is they take, out of context, two months of struggling.  We've always said Miguel is a spectacular player.  It would take too long to explain, but the revisionist history of what went on is just wrong.  The fact of the matter is that I'm happy that we have Chavez at third and Crosby at short.  That's my choice.  It will be my choice.  I have absolutely no doubt that it will be the right choice.  But Miguel is a marvelous player and who wouldn't say that?  There was never a choice given at the time.

Blez:  Well, you also had this player who the organization thought highly enough of, ready to step in and take over for Miguel.  A lot of people say it's easy, you just move Crosby over to third.  But asking a 22-year-old to do that isn't as easy as asking someone like A-Rod to do it.

Beane:  Yes, but they are also taking things out of context and I don't even feel like wasting my time explaining it.

Blez:  I think people have selective memories when it comes to making a case in this instance.

Beane:  Again, Miguel is a great player and always has been.  But Chavy and Crosby in our organization, I'm happy with that.  Miguel and Chavy are marvelous players and we have a future marvelous player in Bobby Crosby.

Blez:  It sounds like you get tired of hearing about this, probably more so after the first two months.

Beane:  Actually I don't.  I don't hear it as much.  It's just a ridiculous statement taken out of context.  

Blez:  I get tired of hearing it myself.

Beane:  Well, it's a completely out-of-context statement and they don't have any background as to what went on or anything like that.  It's a completely hindsight, contextual viewpoint.  And there's no understanding as to what went on.  The fact of the matter is that I'm really happy we have Chavy.  He's a 27-year-old who has four consecutive gold gloves and averaged 30 home runs and 100 RBIs over the course of that time and I believe he'll still do it this year, which will make it five.  Over the course of his career, he's going to go down as one of the greatest players in the history of this franchise.  So, no regrets.

Blez:  I don't think you could state that any more plainly.

Beane:  I love Chavy.  He's an absolutely fantastic player.  I am so pleased that we have him.  

Blez:  Do you consider him a leader?

Beane:  Yeah, I do.  He leads with his bat and his glove.  That's what leaders do.  Leaders don't sit in the clubhouse eating Snickers bars and running their mouth.  Leadership is only effective if you're playing the game and leadership comes in different forms.  

Blez:  A lot of people say he's too laid back.

Beane:  No, you know what Chavy is.  He's a guy who has his emotions under control.  Good for him that he does have his emotions under control.  If it would make people happy for him to bust bats and throw helmets, I'm not so sure that would do anything.  It might make people feel better, but I can assure you that no one wears it more than Chavy.  If he goes 0-4, you just know he's internalizing it.  I'm around him all the time.  It might make people feel better, but I can assure you it's bothering him.  The fact that he has some maturity and can control his emotions and not take it out on the field, well, that's an asset.  

Tom Brady with the New England Patriots is a great leader.  You know why?  It's because he's darn good.  Bonds is a great leader because he's a great player.  Leadership is a function of production.  You can't really be a non-producing player and be a great leader.  You can be a guy who's funny and fun to be around in the clubhouse, but that doesn't necessarily make them a great leader.  

Blez:  Well, it's also fans making judgments about someone after watching them on TV.

Beane:  You know what it is.  It's the old John McEnroe versus Bjorn Borg personality.  Is Bjorn Borg any less of a champion in tennis than John McEnroe with a completely different personality?  Bjorn Borg is one of the greatest tennis players of all time.  He and McEnroe are, but totally different personalities.  When McEnroe misses a shot and argues with an umpire, people felt better because they want to do that.  But when Borg didn't, and I'm going back quite a few years for some people, does that mean he doesn't care as much?  They're just different personalities.


Part II of the Athletics Nation midseason interview with Billy Beane will be posted after the game tomorrow.  Beane discusses the new stadium, the Hudson and Mulder deals and Kotsay's future with the team.  Stay tuned.

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Sweet!
The interview! Great job as usual, Blez.
Look behind you

by Squeaky on Jun 29, 2005 4:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Chavez and Tejada
Good interview. He insists it was never either/or, but no one will ever get him to say why he wouldn't even offer a contract to Tejada.
It could be worse, we could be Giants fans.

by vk on Jun 29, 2005 4:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

so far so great
Let the Chavvy/Miggy debate rage! Just kidding, please let's not start that again. I like his comments about real leadership and how it differs from fan perceptions. Didn't he say something along the same lines in one of the previous interviews?
Wasted? What about our staring contests? And the way we always knew what football coaches should have done? - Homer

by andeux on Jun 29, 2005 4:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Stay tuned?
Wherever could we possibly go?

Man, oh man, would I love to get to sit down with BB when he had the time to fully explain all of the nuts and bolts that went into the Miggy v Chavvy decision ...

The next time I slap a guy's ass, can we all just assume it's because I wish I was a baseball player?

by devo on Jun 29, 2005 4:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Xmas came early!
As a fan, I can't tell you how much I appreciate this access of Billy. I wish you could interview him monthly.

"...no one wears it more than Chavy."

"Look what we did!"

by ArakSOT on Jun 29, 2005 4:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes!!
thanks Blez, for getting the first part in.

Bjorn Borg vs. John McEnroe, a classic duel. I love Chavvy being compared to Borg, "a guy who has his emotions under control." Not a bad thing.

I'm the guy with the Carney/Jared Lansford jersey

by gojohn10 on Jun 29, 2005 4:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Considering it's Wimbledon time...
...and the 25th anniversary of that classic final...that's about as perfect an illustration as you can have of fiery vs. quiet and yet both so good.

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jun 29, 2005 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Will there be a part III
that discusses the recent draft ?

by green star oakland on Jun 29, 2005 4:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The recent draft AND
the change in ownership from Schott to Wolff.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Jun 29, 2005 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boy, he sure is high on
Duke.  He mentioned him several times.  

Great interview, thanks!  Can't wait for Part II.

Nature's first green is gold...

by prana160 on Jun 29, 2005 4:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

As always
This was well worth the wait.

Thank you so much Blez.

by Swisherfor05ROY on Jun 29, 2005 4:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

BLAH BLAH BLAH
Great intereview Blez !!!

Chavy has no heart though and billy knows it, but it would be pure stupidity for him to admit that.

by novaoakland on Jun 29, 2005 4:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Chavy? No heart?
What did I miss? I think it must be something huge...I didn't think my head was in THAT big of a bubble.
Look behind you

by Squeaky on Jun 29, 2005 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Either that
or BB actually holds a different opinion than yours, his being from the inside, of course.
Nico

by Nico on Jun 29, 2005 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Inside?
As in... someone who actually knows Chavy, works with him every day, sees how he interacts with the other folks on the team.  That kind of "inside?"
"Holy Manama!" ~Bahrain, 5,000+ miles east of Toledo :-)~

by NomAd on Jun 30, 2005 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't be silly, NomAd--
I meant the kind of "inside" that comes from being capable of spinning inflammatory drivel onto an internet blog. That takes some koh-NECK-shuns!
Nico

by Nico on Jun 30, 2005 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So freaking ridiculous...
Like u have more of a clue than Beane if Chavez has heart....My god.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jun 29, 2005 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Snickers bar?
Who is Beane ragging on with that comment? I mean, that's just too oddly specific to be a random detail, right?

by monkeyball on Jun 29, 2005 4:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking the same thing ...
hey all you ANers with cameras, get to work on this Snickers no-leadership guy.

by oaktownmario on Jun 29, 2005 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that was a
pretty funny statement ... directed I guess at the hordes of fans who have been demanding that Chavy sit in the dugout more eating Snickers bars.  Maybe he was using reverse psychology--maybe Chavy SHOULD eat more Snickers bars.  After all, they are packed with peanuts ...

by rubin sierra on Jun 29, 2005 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmm
don't know who he means

but I got a couple of ideas ("team captain" #22 maybe?)

"Let's see, for breakfast Rickey will have bacon and eggs, and grits if I can get 'em." --Rickey Henderson (I LOVE Rickey!)

by Alien on Jun 29, 2005 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No snickers for #22
he's more of a green m&m kind of guy ;-)

by green star oakland on Jun 29, 2005 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly
That's what I was thinking...either that, or he was talking about AN Member:  Foolshgame22
Let's Go Oak-Land!

by Colorado Fan on Jun 29, 2005 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dont' think its 22
I doubt he's gonna harsh on someone inside the organization like that.

by BruceBochte on Jun 29, 2005 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

packed with PEANUTS
It's Stomper. That bastard.

by monkeyball on Jun 29, 2005 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big deal...
REAL leaders eat Kit Kats!

Hmmm...Kit Kats...

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jun 29, 2005 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HAS to be byrnes
declaring himself team captain and putting a "C" on his jersey.  

learn how to hit a slider first, byrnsie...

by xbhaskarx on Jun 29, 2005 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, no, no.
The Dominicans gave him that nickname. He's just having fun with it.
"You are Marine kids and can chew nails while other kids are sucking cotton candy!"...The Great Santini to his children.

by sf drift king on Jun 29, 2005 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remember "Captain America?"
Look at me! I'm blog-pimping too! http://7thinningstretch.blogspot.com

by secret ASian man on Jun 29, 2005 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fan-
Tastic!
CA-Gov: Angelides 46%, Arnold 42%

by Parklife on Jun 29, 2005 4:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

my favorite line
where he's talking about Chavy being the first to "wear it"

WEAR IT A'S FANS! WE'RE DAMN GOOD!

by popcornjames on Jun 29, 2005 4:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

As one who has questioned that decision
I wonder what his repeated references to "out of context" mean:
  1. The "true" age difference;
  2. the 2004 payroll, since Miguel's contract would have come up first;
  3. Something else about Tejada that Beane will obviously never tell us about??
  4. Or simply Chavez' start this year-- and I wish Blez you had simply said, "but Billy, when your anchor franchise player hits 200 for two months, can you simply wave that kind of performance away as "out of context"? Blez-- Chavy's slump cost this team games;
I am not questioning here, Billy-- you have always had more information than the rest of us. I'm just wondering out loud.
oaktoon

by oaktoon on Jun 29, 2005 4:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My presumption,
in decreasing order of likelihood, is 2,3, 1, 4. Basically, I think he means 2--timing is everything, and if Chavy's contract had come up a year before Miggy's, and Crosby had been a 3Bman, things MIGHT have been different.
Nico

by Nico on Jun 29, 2005 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

two-month slump
Good point ... It's bizarre, Chavy seems better than ever now, but that was a slump so hideous that it had to raise ominous feelings in even Eric's most loyal supporters--even in Billy.  

by rubin sierra on Jun 29, 2005 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chavy
was even better last year after his injury.
"You are Marine kids and can chew nails while other kids are sucking cotton candy!"...The Great Santini to his children.

by sf drift king on Jun 29, 2005 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about what Miggy was really
asking for initially and what the market was like back then?  That could be it.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Jun 29, 2005 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

but Blez..
I thought that was the offseason where the market clearly had peaked-- Giambi and Delgado got their money after 2001; ARod after 2000;-- by 2003 it was coming more under control for position players. Maybe Miggy asked for too much-- but was he wrong to do that? And has he not justified the request since??
oaktoon

by oaktoon on Jun 29, 2005 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miggy
Maybe I'm thinking of another year, but I believe Miggy did the same thing before he exploded in his MVP season....but there was one year when he was slumping like Chavy this year.

by hoyos on Jun 29, 2005 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was the year after his MVP year...
When Schott said he wasnt going to re-sign him..Had a horrid first 6 weeks.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jun 29, 2005 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chavy's slump cost this team games?
EVERYONE'S slump cost this team games. May was definitely a complete team effort.

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jun 29, 2005 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chavez Rules!!!
Where in the world is this "Chavy has no heart" BS coming from? Chavy has always been a streaky hitter, he can't control that. One day he'll come up huge in a crucial situation and all that nonsense will come to an end. People used to say that Bonds had no heart and that he couldn't do it when it counted. Miggy had "heart" and he never did it for us when it counted either. I just don't buy into this heart/no heart nonsense. Guys either consistently or in bunches and to a certain extent the situations surrounding those hits are incidental. As a fan you get disappointed when a star doesn't deliver on command but as Bonds struggles in the playoffs show even the best players can't deliver all the time every time in baseball. Yeah I was frustrated when Chavy was struggling mightily but he's always been very streaky so I pretty much accepted he would come out of it. Chavy is our guy and I for one am behind him 1000%

by As89 on Jun 29, 2005 5:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree heartily
except to say that I think consistency is important, and that it should be the one thing Chavy most strives for. As an unbelievably talented 27 year old, he may well have 10 highly consistent years in the ML; let's hope.
Nico

by Nico on Jun 29, 2005 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great point
Chavez is not far from where you would want him this time of year, but how you get there matters.  The team would be in a better position if he hit .270 with 4-5 homers each month rather than struggling for two months and going crazy for one.

by boilerdan on Jun 29, 2005 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Blez......Great Work
This access is much appreciated.
Now THIS is Billy Ball

by Masaryk on Jun 29, 2005 5:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Blez
This is one of the features that truly separates AN from the rest--great interviews, unparalleled access.
"Let's see, for breakfast Rickey will have bacon and eggs, and grits if I can get 'em." --Rickey Henderson (I LOVE Rickey!)

by Alien on Jun 29, 2005 5:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wear It
Is BB getting a cut of t-shirt sales for everytime he uses the phrase "Wear It"???  Hey, if it helps keep Kotsay around, I'm all for it.

Also, OK-OK, I get it.  Chavez is going to be a better player than Tejada - Time will tell...

Great Interview.  I hope you took a couple AN'ers up on their willingness to transcribe this stuff for you.

Cheers to you,

Let's Go Oak-Land!

by Colorado Fan on Jun 29, 2005 5:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

did anyone else hear the ominous organ
when Billy said

One of the things that we are severely lacking in, and it's due to the erosion of losing some guys, is the power.  It's an area we need to address going forward.  Not just short term, but long term.

I wondered, what the heck does that mean?  We're not going to get it through free agency. He says the market is valuing power well, so it's tough to trade for it. Are we just going to start promoting only those guys who can hit homers? Where's Jack Cust?

by Apricot on Jun 29, 2005 5:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

well realistically
(and btw, the BBC is showing the Mets and Phils live as I speak. I think it was supposed to be the Yanks and Orioles-- but they are in a rain delay-- wonder what the cricket fans think of this?. And now they're switching to the Halos-Rangers!!!)

He's not upgrading at SS, 3B or C. Barton and Johnson might make a good 1B-DH combo. There aren't many 2B prospects with power.

SO.... it's OF that he's talking about. And he has no great power prospects... meaning..

Kotsay will probably be dealt. and one or two other deals will involve the A's acquiring some power prospects.

oaktoon

by oaktoon on Jun 29, 2005 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

good thinking
Sounds like a sound line of reasoning.
I think Bill King and Ken Korach are fantastic broadcasters.

by rich on Jun 29, 2005 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Byrnes?
If may make more sense to get power out of the left side of the outfield.  Keep Kotsay, and leave Swish out in right.

by scampiv on Jun 29, 2005 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obviously ...
... it means we're going to trade for Cuban prospect Tony Montana!

by monkeyball on Jun 29, 2005 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope we're going to trade for Jonny Gomes...
The kid is a smasher, young, inexpensive, On Base Machine and from the Bay Area

by Olijerez77 on Jun 29, 2005 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But ...
... can he handle a machine gun?
You can't spell "monkey" without "money"

by monkeyball on Jun 30, 2005 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's very nonviolent actually
Next time you see him, say hello to his little friend.

by Apricot on Jun 30, 2005 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But what about Rebenga?
You can't spell "monkey" without "money"

by monkeyball on Jun 30, 2005 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's a sweetie
He's the guy who says, "Enjoy yourself -- every day above .500 is a good day."  We'll know that feeling pretty soon.

by Apricot on Jun 30, 2005 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spare tickets for Friday
Not sure if it's cool to post this here, but I have some great tickets for Friday that I have to get rid of.  Face value, plus a free parking pass.

http://www.craigslist.org/eby/tix/81696538.html

by achiappanza on Jun 29, 2005 5:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Blez: Thanks so much...
Stuff like this makes this site just exceptional.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jun 29, 2005 5:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Beane seemed to dislike talking about Tejada
but he sure kept going on about it.

I still stand firm that if the A's had an infield of Chavy, Miggy, Crosby and Johnson at the same time right now, it would kick the Ranger's IF's ass.

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by Zonis on Jun 29, 2005 5:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

and it would cost
a lot more than their infield. Blalock and Young and Texiera are all still young enough to be cheap.
I think Bill King and Ken Korach are fantastic broadcasters.

by rich on Jun 29, 2005 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blez Did a Great Job ...
... of keeping the Tejada topic on the table without being obnoxious. The longer it was out there, the more little pieces Billy let out.

In terms of the "context" Billy was referring to, I'm guessing he meant ... relative age, time of contracts expiring and an emerging Crosby.

But how does the timing of the contracts fit in? Was it the pitchers? If Billy knew he wasn't going to try to re-sign Hudson or Mulder do you think the timing matters less?

It seems to me that Billy simply made the judgement that Chavez has a higher ceiling than Tejada and that Chavez would be more productive for a longer period of time. He made his choice and he certainly seems willing to "wear it."

As with all judgements of players, it was an educated guess.

by Eck on Jun 29, 2005 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good Stuff
Well worth the wait.  Thanks Blez!

Now I cant wait to see what BB has to say about a new stadium and the ownership.

by pickinmachine on Jun 29, 2005 5:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Blez!
You. The. Man.

These interviews you do are totally choice (yes, I'm getting my latest catch phrase from the commercials run during A's games -- you all are the only ones who will understand!!!).

I think Bill King and Ken Korach are fantastic broadcasters.

by rich on Jun 29, 2005 5:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Another Good Interview
It's awesome that Billy gives these interviews.  And once again, you come through with a great one Blez.

Thanks.

"This is supposed to be a happy occasion! Lets's not bicker and argue about who killed who.... "

by JLeverenz on Jun 29, 2005 5:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

great interview ...
always insightful and once again proves AN head n shoulders above the rest.

it would be interesting to hear if bb's voice matches the same voice i hear when i read the interview. i had him standing up when talking about chavez.

btw, is there a link around here somewhere to buy aces from amazon?  or does anyone want to sell their used copy?

by mookyee on Jun 29, 2005 5:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Great job!
Looking forward to Part 2

by OaklandSi on Jun 29, 2005 6:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

woohoo..
nice interview, Blez.  Thanks for yet another special treat.

looking forward to part II...

by high street on Jun 29, 2005 6:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Excellent Part I! Thanks!
I don't want to toot my own horn, but since Billy talked with me, the A's have scored 34 runs in four games and won all four. Is this mere coincidence?

Hmmmm...Billy might have to make this a weekly meeting.

Considering how long it took you to transcribe this, are you sure you want to make it weekly? :)

As Dana Carvey would say in his impersonation of the late, GREAT Johnny Carson, "This is some weird wild shtuff. I did not know that."

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jun 29, 2005 6:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Question:
What do you think Billy's motives for giving these interviews are?  

I mean, it is more than slightly exceptional.  How many GMs are there that communicate like this with the fan base?

by BruceBochte on Jun 29, 2005 6:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Simple.
It lets him get his message out to the fans, unaltered, unfiltered, and without any other agendas coming into play.

Basically, it lets him say what he wants, exactly how he wants to, to the people who matter the most (the fans).

Whether or not that's a good thing for the fans is another question altogether. ;-)

by Inquisitor on Jun 29, 2005 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would agree
I do not think Beane likes a lot of the reporters speculation and statements coming out of the the media, this gives him an outlet to the Fans that he can control.  Like the Hudson and Mulder trades, the media blasted him for those moves, he then comes on AN and says that what you read is not accurate the A's are going to be competitive this year etc.
ogallalabob

by ogallalabob on Jun 30, 2005 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

great job Blez!
Thanks to you and to Billy Beane for giving us this AN exclusive!!
There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jun 29, 2005 6:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Funny
Beane mentioned how Croz would be hitting behind Chavvy at some point--and he's batting cleanup tonight.
"Let's see, for breakfast Rickey will have bacon and eggs, and grits if I can get 'em." --Rickey Henderson (I LOVE Rickey!)

by Alien on Jun 29, 2005 6:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe because he's
6/11 with 2 HR against Franklin

by green star oakland on Jun 29, 2005 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most of the garbage posted about how BB should
have kept Tejada instead of Chavvy is predicated upon the MANUFACTURED notion that the A's would have made no offer to Tejada. I believe it's reasonable to say that BB spoke with Miguel's agent and had a realistic sense that the A's could have never met Tejada's price. And the fact that Tejada chose to sign with the never-likely-to contend O's (no, they will not contend in 2005-they'll be out of it by Aug.) shows just how mercenary Miguel was and is.

Those who love Tejada may not want to hear it but Miguel opted for the megabucks the O's offered rather than have his agent sit down with BB to convey, "The A's saved Miggy from a life of poverty, so Miguel is willing to settle for ONLY $7-8 million to stay in Oakland."

Anyhow, I agree that Crosby could not have been easily converted to third base and that at SS, he will soon make A's forget everything about Tejada except his bonehead failure to run home vs Boston.

by reztips on Jun 29, 2005 6:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

so because he grew up poor
he's supposed to settle for 7-8 million? As a former MVP?

What did Chavez settle for, anyway? Sure as hell wasn't 7-8 million.

That's ludicrous to call him  mercenary-- he did nothing that any other player-- repeat any other player, whether they grew up wearing shoes or not-- would have done. In the same shoes.

oaktoon

by oaktoon on Jun 29, 2005 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and let's kill the Red Sox thing, OK??
The Sox were a better team.

Without Mulder and with Hudson ailing, do you think we had any chance against the Yankees?

And Byrnes' mistake was worse;

And Macha's moves were worse;

Your anti-Tejada diatribes are growing tiresome.

oaktoon

by oaktoon on Jun 29, 2005 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

can't let Tejada off the hook that easily
He didn't run home when he was supposed to. He stood there arguing instead. Both his and Byrnes' mistakes were huge.
I think Bill King and Ken Korach are fantastic broadcasters.

by rich on Jun 29, 2005 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But the biggest WILL ALWAYS be
Giambi's non-slide into home, THAT more than Miggy or Byrnes mistakes will be seared into my mind....
Now THIS is Billy Ball

by Masaryk on Jun 30, 2005 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't Take Cheap Shots at Miggy!
The A's didn't make an offer because they realized they weren't willing to pay anywhere close to Tejada's market value. A fine defensive short stop with power is a very valuable commodity!

Tejada has a ton of heart and truly loved the A's. Had the A's made reasonable offer, my gut tells me he would have taken it -- even if it was for less than what other teams were offering. It's not fair to judge him harshly for taking what he's worth ... especially when he didn't have a choice.

by Eck on Jun 29, 2005 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beane
I think the A's are competitive because they find bargains and guys under value.  It was clear that Tejada was going to sign for top dollar (no dicount), there is no way the A's can play that game with the big market teams.  If you are blaming Beane for not being a major bidder in the freeagent market then why not add in the fact that the A's did not acquire Vlad, Pedro, Beltran and RJ.

As for Tejada I do not blame him for taking the biggest contract he could find, he grew up poor, he is supporting his family and he needs to do what he believes is best.

ogallalabob

by ogallalabob on Jun 30, 2005 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting interview Blez
Thanks a bunch!  How many fans get to hear their GM in a halfway-candid setting?

In one of the future interviews, I think that the stathead faction of AN (OK, me) would love to hear some questions regarding the front office's use of statistics to evaluate players, prospects, approach the draft, etc.  Moneyball only goes so far, and embellishes quite a bit in any event.  It would be interesting if you could coax out of him where he feels the organization's offensive, pitching, and fielding metrics are comparted to a) other organizations and b) independent investigators like Baseball Prospectus, Bill James (pre-Red Sox), Lee Sinins, etc.

Once again, great job!

Fearing Mecir since 2000.

by salb918 on Jun 29, 2005 6:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Forst
How about an interview w/ Forst to answer those types of questions?  Or, an interview with the dude they hired who crunches numbers...I can't remember his name, but I'm sure Stat-Heads like yourself know whom I speak of.

The last thing I want to hear is an interview w/ Billy Beane covering a new formula intertwined with the new revelations of sample size.

Speaking of Sample Size, is Tom Brady not a good QB yet because he's only started 70 Games or so???  I'm not sure how that works.

Let's Go Oak-Land!

by Colorado Fan on Jun 29, 2005 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Farhad Zaidi
aka my hero.
Fearing Mecir since 2000.

by salb918 on Jun 29, 2005 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dotel Really Screwed the A's
What a shame Octavio Dotel decided to ignore the advice from some of the best arm MD's on the planet and opted for surgery while collecting $3 mil plus from the A's for one month of truly lousy work. Had he rehabed, BB would have had the bargaining chip to trade for what BB acknowledged the A's most need, a power hitter.

With Durazo also on the shelf, the A's only chips left are Kotsay--if BB determines he can't be signed for a reasonable sum, or prospects like Garcia. BTW, fans of ByrnesBum, if Kotsay is traded--believe me--you don't want to see your fairhaired brainless boy embarrassing himself in CF. Pray he won't play there.

oakTuna, you are in error: Chavvy did sign for a hometown discount of $8 mil because he wanted to stay with Oakland. Tejada obviously did not.

One more thing, oakTuna: always the laughingstock of AN, you call my posts tiresome after you created diary after diary dumping on the A's and Billy Beane. If, as you say, you have become more positive, at least thank me as the theraputic approach I suggested to cure your masochism, a dominitrix, must be paying some dividends. :-)>

by reztips on Jun 29, 2005 7:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

stop it...
seriously...

ok, we've debated the Tejada/Chavy thing to death.  Just accept Beane's answers and move on.  

Yes, Dotel's situation screwed us in the trade market, but it wasn't Dotel's fault.  They actually said after they did the surgery that he really did need it.  And he was pitching crappy before.  Something was wrong.  He needed to fix it, so he did.  Yes, it sucks that our prime trading chip is gone, but we can't blame him for trying to get better.  He did what he had to do.

And Kotsay, I hope we resign him.  We need him.  But if he has to go, we better get some power.

Oh, and Byrnes won't be THAT bad in center.  He may make some bonehead plays from time to time, but it wont be the difference between competing or not.

"I have an Alka Seltzer bat. You know, plop plop fizz fizz. When the pitcher sees me walking up there they say, 'Oh what a relief it is.'" -Andy Van Slyke

by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 29, 2005 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Swisher
I have heard from several writers (Gammons being one) that if Kotsay is traded Swisher would play CF, why does everyone assume on this board that it will be Brynes?
ogallalabob

by ogallalabob on Jun 30, 2005 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What do you get when you divide $66 million
by six years? Eric Chavez's average salary over the course of his contract.

Also, the guy's name is oaktoon. You misspelled it a couple of times.

by orange2299 on Jun 30, 2005 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

According to Susan Slusher..
When they went in and did surgery on Dotel's elbow they came back and said "you were right, it was pretty bad in there you were right to have surgery"

Sometimes a teams goals run counterproductive to what a players body says.  I think this was one of those times.  The A's would have obviously liked Octavio to stay pitching if at all possible so they could either use him or trade him for something useful.  Neither came to pass, but I'm betting that the rest of Octavio's career is better because of what he did.

The A's team doctor frequently comes and sits near my seat.  I think next time I'll ask him about Dotel and see what he says.

by skwid on Jun 30, 2005 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly--
Dotel was vindicated and fans still want to criticize his decision, passing judgment over what somebody should do in the best interests of his own body and health.

Look at all the retired athletes who "did what they needed to do to help their team" and are now semi-crippled. Kudos to Dotel for putting his health first, and shame on anyone who puts their own desire for their team's success over the health of a human being.

Nico

by Nico on Jun 30, 2005 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In Billy We Trust
Great interview Blez!
"You are Marine kids and can chew nails while other kids are sucking cotton candy!"...The Great Santini to his children.

by sf drift king on Jun 29, 2005 8:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Awesome interview start there...
I'm excited to see what else was said!  With this young team achieving right now, Beane is looking smarter by the day.  I, of course, never doubted him, and I'm glad he made the moves he did.  They needed to be made.  He seemed a little irritated over the whole Tejada/Chavy thing, and I don't blame him.  Can't really fault a guy for keeping a young, gold glove 3rd baseman who averages 30 HRs and 100 RBIs.  

Keep it coming Blez!  Your fans crave more! :D

"I have an Alka Seltzer bat. You know, plop plop fizz fizz. When the pitcher sees me walking up there they say, 'Oh what a relief it is.'" -Andy Van Slyke

by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 29, 2005 8:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Tejada/ Chavez
I would agree, besides I think one mistake people make is that they compare thier numbers straight across and with Tejada in a hitters park and Eric in a pitchers park that is not a fair comparrison.  

Also people assume that the A's had the choice between the 2 players, if I recall correctly Tejada pretty much said he was looking for a huge contract, to take care of his family.  There was no home team discount coming, while I think Chavez did take less then he would have gotten on the free agent market.

Pluss given their ages, I think the A's made the right % play at the time, we will see in 3-4 years if it plays out.

ogallalabob

by ogallalabob on Jun 30, 2005 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

bump!
I'm the guy with the Carney/Jared Lansford jersey

by gojohn10 on Jun 29, 2005 9:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think what I like so much about Beane...
...is that he just keeps putting a team on the field to win, not a flashy, high-priced team, but a talented one. So many of us have said that they would trade 5 seasons of playoff ball for one World Series victory, but I don't know if I agree with that.

I don't know how I'd feel if the A's mortgaged their future as so many clubs have done to win that one big series. I would argue that knowing your team will have a chance EVERY year is what makes the A's so special...that and the fact that they have the most amazing draft/farm systems.

I LOVE this team. And I think BB has been a big part of why.

...you wonder when it's time to start thinking about saving a season that seemed lost.

by baseballgirl on Jun 29, 2005 9:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

WS title
In reality, you have a better chance to win the WS if you field a good team every year rather than if you risk everything for one great year. Even the mightly fall (see yankees last four years).
I'm the guy with the Carney/Jared Lansford jersey

by gojohn10 on Jun 29, 2005 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow...
Never expected a tennis referense from BB. And yes, he dating himself with the Bjorn Borg/McInroe comparisons.

Why doesn't he just talk about the Dropkick Murphys and sound young? <jk>

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by secret ASian man on Jun 29, 2005 10:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

All in all,
good interview.  I'd love to see his take on the stadium situation, since you know, he is part of the ownership group now.
Look at me! I'm blog-pimping too! http://7thinningstretch.blogspot.com

by secret ASian man on Jun 29, 2005 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great interview!
Only you could get such an insightful and in-depth interview to clear up so many of assumptions and preconceptions that all of us have harbored for such a long time. [Wow that was an awkward sentence.] What I mean to say is, it's really great that you could get so much information out of the GM himself, and it's nice to finally be able to set the record straight about things. And it couldn't have come at a better time either; the A's are playing GREAT ball now. But that only makes me wonder what the tone of the interview would have been like had the A's continued down the road to the place where the sun doesn't shine very much at all.

Good luck on getting the next two parts up! I look forward to reading it, especially the part about the draft!

by Melody on Jun 29, 2005 11:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The "Buyers/Sellers" Conversation ...
... Was Telling.

By refusing to say the A's won't be sellers, my guess is Billy is saying he's going to trade away one of his big chips. That could only be Kotsay or Zito.

Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but it sounded to me like Billy was trying to justify trading away someone popular to acquire some offensive pop.

If Kotsay signs an extension, that means Zito goes. If Kotsay is not signed in the next two weeks -- which is more likely -- he's off to the Cubs or Yankees.

by Eck on Jun 29, 2005 11:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Eck, I think
you may be reading too much in, because BB's statement was a general one, not about this year.

His point, I think, was that the A's approach EVERY year as a "contending/reloading" year and approach EVERY trade deadline as "both buyers and sellers," because that is how teams contend and reload at the same time.

At least that's my interpretation.

Nico

by Nico on Jun 29, 2005 11:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Granted, Nico ...
... that a good deal that helps the future of the franchise always has to take precedence over taking a one-year shot, I think Billy might be saying something more.

The way he went back to the importance of power sounded to me a little like he was trying to justify something. Maybe that AAA power hitter from the Phillies?

Of course, it's certainly possible I'm reading too much into this.

But I think Billy might be trying to keep perspective that -- despite the team's current fantastic run -- the A's are a longshot to make the postseason this year. I think he was saying that he's willing to give up someone popular who helps the team in 2005 for a bit more power in 2006, '07 and '08.

by Eck on Jun 29, 2005 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I think Eck is correct
HR power is available to the A's in only one manner: young prospects with pop.  The only way to get such highly coveted commodities is to trade equally coveted commodities, such as starting pitching.  

I'll miss Barry.

by calvin on Jun 29, 2005 11:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm starting to be convinced.
What other way could BB have meant? I see big trades of Zito and Kotsay for AAA prospects with high SLG, possibly even with so-so OBP.  Beane will say, "I wanted to set up the team's power needs for the next 5 years. Word to your mother."

by Apricot on Jun 29, 2005 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not saying
there won't be any trade involving Kotsay or Zito--I don't know--but frankly I think y'all are overreacting a bit, interpreting a statement that I think BB would have said, in the same words, last year and would say, in the same words, next year. That's my point.
Nico

by Nico on Jun 29, 2005 11:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Possibly, Nico.
And last year and next year and the next year, he's also likely to have to trade a popular player.

I think when Billy comes on AN he's trying to explain moves that might come across as controversial. He's trying to make his case to some of his most educated core supporters -- folks likely to give him the benefit of the doubt.

When he trades Kotsay or Zito for a AAA slugger, we can all say, "It was part of Billy's plan. He said so on AN."

Not that there's anything wrong with that. I have no problem with either a potential trade or the PR work he's doing to win support.

by Eck on Jun 30, 2005 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

now that the cold war is over...
AN needs to hire an unemployed kremlinologist to decipher beane's every utterance.  

while we're on the subject, where are the beane propaganda shirts, blez??

by xbhaskarx on Jun 30, 2005 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice quote Billy
"Leadership is a function of production" -That is exactly what Chavvy is to me.

by mwla25 on Jun 29, 2005 11:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

buying and selling
This offseason's moves are a perfect example of what Beane means by being both a buyer and a seller - in the Mulder and Hudson trades, expensive stars were traded for younger and cheaper players, while in the Kendall trade he acquired an old and expensive player at a different position. And while the Hudson and Kendall trades both look bad, in isolation, right now, the overall plan seems to be coming together: the A's are contenders (albeit barely) this year, and in much better shape for the future than they would be had they tried to make one last run at it with the big three. Whatever move he makes this year will be along those same lines - Kotsay or Zito for someone major-league ready, not a pure "rebuilding" move for a package of marginal prospects like Carlos Beltran for Wood/Teahen/Buck.

There's a new Rosenthal column out, mostly about Adam Dunn being on the trading block. It sounds like the price - both the prospects that Cincinatti wants, and the salary that Dunn will command for the next couple of years - is beyond Oakland's means, but in light of Beane's comments about wanting to add power I'm still dreaming a bit that it might happen. He also mentions that the Phillies are asking a lot for Ryan Howard. I'd be nervous about giving up too much there. He could be a legit slugger, but he could also be the next Jack Cust or Calvin Pickering - guys who have great power with only the minor problems of not being able to hit major league pitching or field their positions.

Wasted? What about our staring contests? And the way we always knew what football coaches should have done? - Homer

by andeux on Jun 30, 2005 12:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

or more simply
in a trade, you can't sell without buying and you can't buy without selling.  that's why it's a "trade"...

by xbhaskarx on Jun 30, 2005 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

a little too simple
In the literal sense, of course, that's true. But we all know that in baseball parlance "buying" and "selling" usually refer to trades between contending and non-contending teams, where the commodity being bought and sold is established star players usually close to free agency, and the currency is prospects and sometimes cash. What I'm expecting, based on Beane's comments and the other rumors flying around, is something like one good player for another one: Mark Kotsay goes to the Cubs or Yankees, and in return Adam Dunn magically appears in the heart of our order, or something along those lines.
Wasted? What about our staring contests? And the way we always knew what football coaches should have done? - Homer

by andeux on Jun 30, 2005 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's ok
I'm half drunk. Or, if you're a pessimist, half sober.
Wasted? What about our staring contests? And the way we always knew what football coaches should have done? - Homer

by andeux on Jun 30, 2005 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i know this sounds crazy..
but i wouldn't be shocked to find Sheff in our backyard before the deadline. The Yanks would take Kots and XXXX and probably a good prospect and we'd get Sheff and some $$. Now, I know this is unlikely but if Sheff keeps complaining I could see it happen.
"Don't you play the flute, Huddy?"

by capper3 on Jun 30, 2005 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sheff not a chance
There is no way we acquire Sheff.  Especially after his tirade which scared the Mets off of him.  No I could see Dunn, maybe Kearns, or some younger power hitter but it is not going to be Sheff unless he can unload Kendall.  Heh Sheff, Kendall and Cahvez would be our whole payroll, not going to happen.
ogallalabob

by ogallalabob on Jun 30, 2005 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, you're right.
it annoys me when people suggest ridiculous transactions such as this one. I'm sorry i got a little shortsighted and got caught in the rumor mill.
"Don't you play the flute, Huddy?"

by capper3 on Jun 30, 2005 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Posada
There's been a lot of talk that the Yankees are looking to move Posada.

I personally would pull the trigger on Kotsay + Kendall (+ Ellis?) for Sheffield + Posada (+ Cano?) + $$$. I'd even be tempted to do the straight-up 2-2 (3-3?) trade without the money.

Sheffield's addition at the plate would more than offset the defensive dropoff from Kotsay to Byrnes or Thomas (and, quite frankly, Byrnes might be an offensive upgrade over Kotsay oin a daily basis; even $2 Chuck might be, if he's truly capable of hitting anywhere near as well in the bigs as he's shown at Sacto).

And Posada would be an immense  upgrade over Kendall offensively, and probably a wash defensively. And Posada's contract also ends a year earlier.

You can't spell "monkey" without "money"

by monkeyball on Jun 30, 2005 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're assuming...
...Sheffield would be trying if he gets here. I don't trust him.

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jun 30, 2005 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is that to consider
Sheff's always been a hothead with an inability to shut up when a reporter asks him a provocative question.

I don't think that Sheff-to-the-A's is going to happen anyway, so we probably don't need to worry about it ...

And in the game of which-jackass-who-can-hit-the-snot-out-of-the-ball-and-throw-peas-from-RF-would-you-rather-have, I would take Sheffield over Guillen, even with the contract disparity.

Laugh while you can, monkeyboy!

by monkeyball on Jun 30, 2005 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Billy Beane gets it
"But Miguel is a marvelous player and who wouldn't say that?... Miguel and Chavy are marvelous players and we have a future marvelous player in Bobby Crosby."

Thanks to Billy Beane, we now understand that is is possible to simultaneously believe that 1) Tejada was and is a terrific player, 2) Chavy is a terrific player, and 3) Crosby will likely be a terrific player in the future. One does not actually have to stop believing 1) in order to believe either 2) or 3).

by orange2299 on Jun 30, 2005 1:16 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Interpreting Beane
While I agree with Nico that Beane's comments shouldn't be read too literally (i.e. Kotsay's going to be traded for a power hitter), I also think he drops hints about his thinking.  The comment about power hitting is an example.  Anyone knows that's a problem area, but the fact that Beane put such an emphasis on the importance of acquiring such hitters does tell us something about his priorities, and what he might be willing to give up.

Beane has said, repeatedly, that he won't trade Zito this year.  He could always change his mind, of course, if a team offers him the moon.  But let's take him at his word.  What does that mean?  It means he won't trade Zito during this season.  It doesn't mean he won't trade him in the offseason, and if the young starters continue to perform well, it's possible he will deal Zito to get the right-handed power bat the team needs in 2006 and beyond.

But is this the right idea?  If he's going to trade Zito, wouldn't his value be higher at the deadline - when a trade partner would get Zito for this season and next season?  I don't know why Beane is so insistent on this point, unless he just wants to cool the rumor mill.

As for Kotsay, it seems likely that the game of "chicken" will continue between Beane and Kotsay's agent.  But I also don't know whether Kotsay is part of Beane's 2006-2008 plan for the team, or if he hopes to deal him in exchange for the aforementioned power bat.

A lot of the interview went over the Tejada/Chavez thing, and we won't really know the whole story on that one.  I doubt there is some big secret, though.  Beane had an up-and-coming shortstop to replace Tejada, so he "chose" the younger Chavez.  The problem, thus far, is that while Chavez has been a good player for the A's, Tejada has been a tremendous player for the Orioles.  

That said, the decison - if one accepts the budgetary restrictions as a given - was hardly irrational.  I'm less sold on Chavez as the franchise cornerstone than Beane, but I might have done the same thing in his position.

by bear88 on Jun 30, 2005 1:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

sweet interview Blez
Is it just me, or did anyone else think that the part about Chavvy/Miggy was kind of funny in an odd sort of way?  Ohh, and I love it how Beane mentioned Tom Brady; he managed to talk about my favorite baseball player and football player all at once :)

QUOTE IT:
Beane:  I love Chavy.  He's an absolutely fantastic player.  I am so pleased that we have him.  
My sentiments EXACTLY!!  

by ChavysGrl3 on Jun 30, 2005 1:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

wow
i've waited all week to read this, wonderful interview blez. and theres more fun to come!
ohio roots

by nickatt7 on Jun 30, 2005 3:24 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If the A's can't sign Kotsay
for a reasonable sum, BB might be able to swing a trade either directly with the Mets or a three way involving Kotsay and Cameron. In Cameron, the A's would get another gold glove CF who can hit for far more power than Kotsay.

Understand, I think highly of Kotsay. But if he is not viable economically, the likes of Cameron would be a welcome alternative. While Kotsay probably won't mind playing RF for the Mets, Cameron is said not to be happy stuck in RF in NY.

'Course, Kotsay says he wants to play for a winner and with a big budget and a few more additions, the Mets might provide that (in a relatively weak division) for Kotsay in the seasons to come. And at least the Mets no longer have Art Not Smart Howe at the helm for Kotsay to laugh at.

Come to think of it, the A's should toss Bumblin Byrnesy into any trade mix. Just get his pathetic ByrnesBrain out of town, whatever it takes...

by reztips on Jun 30, 2005 7:34 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Do you have a bet going...
...where you have to bag on Byrnes EVERY post?

I was just starting to agree and like some of your comments above.

...you wonder when it's time to start thinking about saving a season that seemed lost.

by baseballgirl on Jun 30, 2005 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A little interpersonal skill
can go a loooong way.
Nico

by Nico on Jun 30, 2005 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's not as strange as when he randomly bashes
oafc.  i didn't even know what that was for the first month or so...

by xbhaskarx on Jun 30, 2005 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's kind of like RBIA
(Random But Intriguing Acronym)
Nico

by Nico on Jun 30, 2005 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ITNTIWU
...you wonder when it's time to start thinking about saving a season that seemed lost.

by baseballgirl on Jun 30, 2005 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

WTH?
"Look what we did!"

by ArakSOT on Jun 30, 2005 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, he said random!
...you wonder when it's time to start thinking about saving a season that seemed lost.

by baseballgirl on Jun 30, 2005 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

WSOIEQKFR!
i'm sorry, that was rude, i apologize...

by xbhaskarx on Jun 30, 2005 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I forgive you--
it was obviously the DPCWEH talking.
Nico

by Nico on Jun 30, 2005 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

is that what those pills
jennifer gave me are called?

by xbhaskarx on Jun 30, 2005 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good stuff
"That's always an easy question to answer.  We are always both.  There's never been a year that we aren't both.  The goal here is not to have a cute little team that's competitive.  The goal here is to have a team where year after year we are competing for a playoff spot.  That's always the way I think.  We want to be good for a long time.  We're always going to be both."

That answer from Beane exemplifies everything that is good about being an A's fan.

I also liked how he said "there is no 5-year plan", which gave me the sense that the A's will keep winning now and not 06' like many have claimed "is the plan".

Plans are for jerks. This team is built to win now, today, tomorrow, and forever. Believe it or not, they will give the Angels a run for their money.Go A's!

Lord Vader... ...yesss massster? ...RISE!!!

by Force on Jun 30, 2005 8:21 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

OT: request for Blez
Not to sound like an ungrateful chair-hucker, but the next time you post a big juicy interview, could you just post the summary and link to the rest?  Otherwise, it's nearly impossible to get to the threads underneath it.

We now return to your regularly scheduled Mike Cameron rumor.

by Apricot on Jun 30, 2005 8:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually, I have a philosophy
about that.  I see it like a jump in a newspaper.  Not everyone follows it...so that's why the interview is broken up into three parts.  So I can put the interview on the front page.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Jun 30, 2005 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Faith and vision
Billy definitely puts the season in perspective. I'm still not entirely sold on the Miggy v. Chavy rationale (In addition to the stats, Miggy is healthy as a horse) ...but I trust the GM.

Seems like such a short time ago that everybody (media, fans) were questioning the philosophy. Now that the team is so much fun to watch again, we return to the faith.

Why is Ellis not playing? Why Ginter and not Hatty at DH?

Blez: Were you sitting front row behind the plate last night??

by kimnjerry on Jun 30, 2005 8:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

New drinking game!
Ask Billy a question about signing Chavy vs. Miggy, and drink a shot every time he says "out of context"   ;)

But seriously, I totally understand his frustration... what a pain in the butt to have to keep answering that.

And thanks, Blez!  Looking forward to the rest of it!  :-D

by Poppy on Jun 30, 2005 9:22 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

excellent interview, Blez.
Billy said some great things about what leadership really is.

by Sharon on Jun 30, 2005 10:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Snickers
I guess my strategy of trying to be a leader in my office by eating snickers bars and running my mouth is badly misguided.

by AlwaysSweatin on Jun 30, 2005 11:16 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Blez
As always, a great job. I'm really looking forward to Part II with some discussion of the new stadium. Cuz without that (according to the Powers That Be) Oakland A's Baseball as we know it could soon be history. And then what would we all do? Get an actual life? I'd hold my breath til I turned Green (with Gold highlights) before I did that!.
"Holy Manama!" ~Bahrain, 5,000+ miles east of Toledo :-)~

by NomAd on Jun 30, 2005 11:22 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Awesome interview Blez!
And hey all of you A's fans! When are we all going to get used to this team being a second half team? Chavy and everybody else needs to heat up, right? Isn't that how it's always been? Now let's sweep the M's and prove our worth against the Chisox! How cool would it be if we swept them too! Then everybody would have to take our team seriously, yes? Go A's! And to back up BB, Chavy is playing with tons of heart now!

by A'sfansince1970 on Jun 30, 2005 11:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you soooo much, Blez!
You rock!  :)
Great interview.  I love Billy's description of what a leader is, or is not.  I agree with him completly.  It's not about a guy who just has a big mouth and throws tantrums.
Fear not for the future, weep not for the past. --Percy Bysshe Shelley

by AsGirl on Jun 30, 2005 11:54 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

beane's comments on power
anyone else think of that michael lewis article in the new york times magazine when they read that?  

looks like giambi screwed the a's for years by "developing" power...

by xbhaskarx on Jun 30, 2005 12:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Crosby at cleanup
I found it very interesting that, coincidentally, the first game Crosby hits cleanup behind Chavez is the same day Blez posts the interview with Billy making a point of indicating that Cros would/should be hitting behind Chavez at some point in the future.
You can't spell "monkey" without "money"

by monkeyball on Jun 30, 2005 12:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Love it
Thank goodness for the interview. Such bon mots straight from the horse's mouth.

And I love the insight into his thoughts on power, leadership, and why Chavy over Miggy. For once and for all, can we let BB have the last word and no more talk about Miggy.

Other goodies:

"From an individual standpoint, the pitchers have been no surprise with how they've done.  Specifically, Blanton and Haren early in the year.  Their early season ups and downs are exactly what you would expect from young guys."

I was on the brink of asking for Blanton's head back in May. I don't know how many of us forgot that we should be patient with the young guys.

"The month of May, just throw it off the map, because there is nothing you can learn from that situation."

Yes, sir!

"The goal here is not to have a cute little team that's competitive.  The goal here is to have a team where year after year we are competing for a playoff spot.  That's always the way I think."

With all due respect, Mr. Beane, that's a damn cute team you got there. Haren, Crosby, Swisher, Street...

I have faith.

by BillybUcko on Jun 30, 2005 1:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Throw May off the map
I was going to say that is my fave quote from the interview too. Probably how we all felt: just forget that May ever existed :)

And I'll add, thanks Blez!

by streetfan on Jun 30, 2005 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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