Billy Beane Midseason Interview Part I
The Oakland Athletics have had a yo-yo season thus far, sinking to the farthest depths in May and now starting to soar.
Recently, Billy Beane sat down with me. I don't want to toot my own horn, but since Billy talked with me, the A's have scored 34 runs in four games and won all four. Is this mere coincidence?
Hmmmm...Billy might have to make this a weekly meeting.
Without further ado, here is part one of my conversation with A's GM and now part owner of the Athletics, Billy Beane.
Blez: Talk about this 2005 team. Is it more or less what you expected?
Billy Beane: Yes, in some individual cases. The thing that we've had to recover from that you can't expect is that injuries just decimated us. At no point this season have we had the team on the field that we expected starting in spring training when (Chad) Bradford went down. And now, we won't be able to put that team on the field given Dotel's injury and possibly Durazo. He's slow to recover. That being said, we have the majority of the players back and in one individual's case, that being Crosby, I think since he returned we're 15-9. We felt like when the whole team was on the field it would be a good team and one that developed and would have its ups and downs. From an individual standpoint, the pitchers have been no surprise with how they've done. Specifically, Blanton and Haren early in the year. Their early season ups and downs are exactly what you would expect from young guys.
Now what you're starting to see is a more consistent level of pitching each time they go out and each one is starting to feed off the other. Rich's (Harden) injury was huge for us. I think the Seattle series is a great example. You start off with Danny continuing with the way he's throwing, then you back that up with Rich Harden and then you've got Zito. I mean Z has pitched great and he should've won that game. And then out of nowhere comes Saarloos who is now your fifth starter. But there was a time when we had to call up Ryan Glynn in an emergency situation. So you've got a number of guys going back-to-back-to-back where it's very difficult to get anything going. I mean, Ryan has done a great job under the circumstances as has Kirk. But we had a stretch there in May where literally every night we were trying to find able bodies to fill in which would explain all the transactions we were doing. That was coupled with the fact that our Triple-A team was decimated. Because with (Dan) Meyer and John Rheinecker, who was pitching fantastic, going down it was tough on the organization.
Blez: What's the prognosis on Rheinecker?
Beane: You know it's frustrating. He has a tendon problem in his finger. He's seen a couple of specialists but still there is no return date in sight. It's a shame because he was pitching than at any other point in his career. And quite frankly, he would've gotten an opportunity here and we would've loved to have taken advantage of that. But I'm pleased. I'm happy and I'm enjoying what's going on. When you start to see the team on the field, and still it's not completely there, but it's been a lot of fun. I've enjoyed seeing the guys, and I've enjoyed seeing Duchscherer's progress. It's a shame that Bobby (Crosby) missed the first two months of the season because as a second year player, he's been important.
Blez: He looks a like a completely different player with a great approach.
Beane: He's going to be a great player. But watching Duke's progress, Huston Street, and we're just so much further along. I always compare things to 93. But we're just so much further along because of the young players we have now and the young players we've got coming. I'm looking forward to seeing Jairo (Garcia) get a chance here. We sent him down to make sure he continued to get his innings in but he's making progress at the Triple-A level.
Blez: So you sent him down to make sure that you had that extra starter still here, or a just in case situation?
Beane: Yeah, and we didn't want to use Jairo up here as just an emergency-type guy. Just because there was a chance he could sit for 10 days and not get a chance to pitch. So we wanted to take advantage of the fact that he's pitching well. He came up here and threw a good inning, let's get him back down.
Blez: To help build his confidence up.
Beane: Yeah, exactly. He's very young. He's only 22. And Calero's injury, it looks like now he's starting to get back to his pre-injury days. Kiko is still a 2+ player, so the bulk of this team is still incredibly young. Swish has had some great days, he's had some not-so-great days, but that's to be expected. So I'm actually pleased, it's been a lot of fun.
Blez: Is this the type of season where you try to not look at the wins and losses as much as the progress on the field? I mean, obviously you want to be competitive, but you're building toward something better here.
Beane: There's two answers to that. In the month of May we weren't doing anything except trying to keep our head above water. There was nothing going on. We were just trying to put a team on the field, that's how bad the injuries were. So that interrupted any development. With that being said, I still think we can develop and be a competitive club at the same time. That's what you're starting to see now which was always the plan. The month of May, just throw it off the map, because there is nothing you can learn from that situation. It was a disaster from an injury standpoint. It was far too much talent and far too many guys.
Blez: Is that where the small market classification comes into play? Because you look at a team like the Red Sox and they have the deeper bench because they have that $100 million payroll.
Beane: It's not just trying to get by with say, losing Rich Harden. Because we didn't have Crosby, Dotel, Calero and Duchscherer was out for 10 days. We couldn't put him on the DL because we really had no one to replace him and we knew he was only going to be out about 10 days. We didn't want to lose him for 15 by putting him on the DL. You take Bradford out too and he's been an important part of our bullpen these past few years. One guy you can get by on, but when you're talking about six or seven guys there's no way. It's not an excuse, it's a fact. The month of May was just one of those months where you say, let's just get through this thing.
Now the good thing with all this is that there creates opportunities. With Octavio going down, Huston Street gets the opportunity.
Blez: A lot earlier than expected.
Beane: Exactly. And so now as we sit here today you can say, well we've wrestled with that closer spot the last couple of years. Maybe we have been presented the opportunity to have that taken care of. Duke's been great too. He went from being a long reliever to a spot starter to now he's closing games. It's not the ideal role for him, but at least he's proven himself capable. He's a really valuable guy to us. But now as the guys start to come back, you can see the development and develop as well as be competitive which is what the whole plan was all along. I think it's really unfair to judge the month of May. I mean we went 4-20 at one point.
Blez: Yet, the team seems to be climbing closer to .500 every day.
Beane: Yeah, but it's a big hole. We know why the hole was there and you can't point fingers at anybody.
Blez: You were talking about starting to build now and be more competitve. We're getting near the time of year when GMs make the decision about whether they are going to be buyers or sellers at the trading deadline. Is that something you've already made a decision about? Or are you going to wait to see how things play out over the next several weeks?
Beane: That's always an easy question to answer. We are always both. There's never been a year that we aren't both. The goal here is not to have a cute little team that's competitive. The goal here is to have a team where year after year we are competing for a playoff spot. That's always the way I think. We want to be good for a long time. We're always going to be both.
Part of the reason we're both and not just buyers is in part because of the market situation we're in. But it's also healthy (to be both a buyer and seller). I don't see a change in that. We've always been involved in the deadline one way or the other. We will continue to be. But our goal is to be good here, year after year after year. So when you look on the field, you see Crosby and say, he's going to be here five years, player X is going to be here five years. We don't shoot for .500 here. We never have. We're not going to do that. Our goal is something we will attain and we're going to do it as quickly as we can. It's not this five-year rebuilding plan.
Blez: You already talked about May and the offense was well...
Beane: We struggled to say the least.
Blez: Yeah. Have you ever seen a team go into team-wide funk all at once like this team did? And how tough was it for you to be patient and not run out and throw a band-aid over it?
Beane: I was patient because you take someone like Chavy. You know he's going to come around, it's just a matter of when. And his impact on the lineup is huge. You knew when he picked it up, well, it's as simple as looking at his good days. When he has good days, everyone else does. So you knew he was eventually going to come around. He's only 27 years old, remember. The offense, in fairness to them, when guys are hurt, each guys have a tendency of trying to be the hero with each at-bat they have. We got in a very bad funk there and there's no explanation except to try and be patient. One of the things that we are severely lacking in, and it's due to the erosion of losing some guys, is the power. It's an area we need to address going forward. Not just short term, but long term. When you don't have power, each game you have is likely to be a close game, even when you win, it's a tight game. Like the game in Seattle the other night when we won 5-0. You add power and those games become 7-0 or 8-0 games, as opposed to every game being a 3-2, 4-2 game.
Power is the great separator. You can manufacture your butt to one run, but after a while, luck is going to hurt you.
Blez: Moving forward then, you'd say power is one area where you'd like to upgrade?
Beane: Yeah, but it's not easy to find and it's expensive. That's why we no longer have it. Because when we develop it, we lose it through free agency. We lost Jason (Giambi), a 35-40 home run guy and Miguel (Tejada), the same thing. Now, there's going to be power developed from some of the guys within, like from Crosby. But he's a second-year player. You don't expect him to go out and hit 30 homers. It's going to come over time, but in the short term, waiting for it is going to be difficult. You go to the team stats of every team and the teams that hit home runs are going to score runs. The one consistent thing for scoring a lot of runs is getting on base and slugging. You can have 1,000 stolen bases, but if you don't have power to go along with it you're not going to be bringing those guys home. And that's why Boston is so deadly. You look at those two games there. Home run. Boom, boom, game over, see you later. You're never out of a game if you have the ability to hit one over the fence.
Blez: You alluded to this earlier. The offense seemed to awaken when Bobby Crosby came back. Do you attribute that to coincidence or does he bring something intangible to this group?
Beane: He is such a critical link. He's right-handed. And we tend to be left-handed heavy. He provides much more depth to the lineup, so I don't think it's coincidence at all. Marco (Scutaro) has done a spectacular job filling in for him and filling in for two guys the last two years. But Croz is such a critical link to that lineup. His presence pushes everyone else down and he's right-handed protection in front of, or behind at some point, Chavy. So I don't think it's a coincidence at all.
Blez: With the team's early-season struggles, so many fans and columnists began pointing at Chavy and the decision to sign Chavy to a long-term deal reportedly over Miguel Tejada. Do you care to respond to the people who said this?
Beane: First of all, we signed Chavy during last spring training. Then he goes out and wins another gold glove, leads the league in walks, misses six weeks and hits 29 home runs. So no one writes anything then. What they do is they take, out of context, two months of struggling. We've always said Miguel is a spectacular player. It would take too long to explain, but the revisionist history of what went on is just wrong. The fact of the matter is that I'm happy that we have Chavez at third and Crosby at short. That's my choice. It will be my choice. I have absolutely no doubt that it will be the right choice. But Miguel is a marvelous player and who wouldn't say that? There was never a choice given at the time.
Blez: Well, you also had this player who the organization thought highly enough of, ready to step in and take over for Miguel. A lot of people say it's easy, you just move Crosby over to third. But asking a 22-year-old to do that isn't as easy as asking someone like A-Rod to do it.
Beane: Yes, but they are also taking things out of context and I don't even feel like wasting my time explaining it.
Blez: I think people have selective memories when it comes to making a case in this instance.
Beane: Again, Miguel is a great player and always has been. But Chavy and Crosby in our organization, I'm happy with that. Miguel and Chavy are marvelous players and we have a future marvelous player in Bobby Crosby.
Blez: It sounds like you get tired of hearing about this, probably more so after the first two months.
Beane: Actually I don't. I don't hear it as much. It's just a ridiculous statement taken out of context.
Blez: I get tired of hearing it myself.
Beane: Well, it's a completely out-of-context statement and they don't have any background as to what went on or anything like that. It's a completely hindsight, contextual viewpoint. And there's no understanding as to what went on. The fact of the matter is that I'm really happy we have Chavy. He's a 27-year-old who has four consecutive gold gloves and averaged 30 home runs and 100 RBIs over the course of that time and I believe he'll still do it this year, which will make it five. Over the course of his career, he's going to go down as one of the greatest players in the history of this franchise. So, no regrets.
Blez: I don't think you could state that any more plainly.
Beane: I love Chavy. He's an absolutely fantastic player. I am so pleased that we have him.
Blez: Do you consider him a leader?
Beane: Yeah, I do. He leads with his bat and his glove. That's what leaders do. Leaders don't sit in the clubhouse eating Snickers bars and running their mouth. Leadership is only effective if you're playing the game and leadership comes in different forms.
Blez: A lot of people say he's too laid back.
Beane: No, you know what Chavy is. He's a guy who has his emotions under control. Good for him that he does have his emotions under control. If it would make people happy for him to bust bats and throw helmets, I'm not so sure that would do anything. It might make people feel better, but I can assure you that no one wears it more than Chavy. If he goes 0-4, you just know he's internalizing it. I'm around him all the time. It might make people feel better, but I can assure you it's bothering him. The fact that he has some maturity and can control his emotions and not take it out on the field, well, that's an asset.
Tom Brady with the New England Patriots is a great leader. You know why? It's because he's darn good. Bonds is a great leader because he's a great player. Leadership is a function of production. You can't really be a non-producing player and be a great leader. You can be a guy who's funny and fun to be around in the clubhouse, but that doesn't necessarily make them a great leader.
Blez: Well, it's also fans making judgments about someone after watching them on TV.
Beane: You know what it is. It's the old John McEnroe versus Bjorn Borg personality. Is Bjorn Borg any less of a champion in tennis than John McEnroe with a completely different personality? Bjorn Borg is one of the greatest tennis players of all time. He and McEnroe are, but totally different personalities. When McEnroe misses a shot and argues with an umpire, people felt better because they want to do that. But when Borg didn't, and I'm going back quite a few years for some people, does that mean he doesn't care as much? They're just different personalities.
Part II of the Athletics Nation midseason interview with Billy Beane will be posted after the game tomorrow. Beane discusses the new stadium, the Hudson and Mulder deals and Kotsay's future with the team. Stay tuned.
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Sweet!
by Squeaky on Jun 29, 2005 4:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Chavez and Tejada
by vk on Jun 29, 2005 4:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
so far so great
by andeux on Jun 29, 2005 4:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Stay tuned?
Man, oh man, would I love to get to sit down with BB when he had the time to fully explain all of the nuts and bolts that went into the Miggy v Chavvy decision ...
by devo on Jun 29, 2005 4:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Xmas came early!
"...no one wears it more than Chavy."
by ArakSOT on Jun 29, 2005 4:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes!!
Bjorn Borg vs. John McEnroe, a classic duel. I love Chavvy being compared to Borg, "a guy who has his emotions under control." Not a bad thing.
by gojohn10 on Jun 29, 2005 4:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Considering it's Wimbledon time...
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jun 29, 2005 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will there be a part III
by green star oakland on Jun 29, 2005 4:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The recent draft AND
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jun 29, 2005 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boy, he sure is high on
Great interview, thanks! Can't wait for Part II.
by prana160 on Jun 29, 2005 4:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
As always
Thank you so much Blez.
by Swisherfor05ROY on Jun 29, 2005 4:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
BLAH BLAH BLAH
Chavy has no heart though and billy knows it, but it would be pure stupidity for him to admit that.
by novaoakland on Jun 29, 2005 4:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Chavy? No heart?
by Squeaky on Jun 29, 2005 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either that
by Nico on Jun 29, 2005 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Inside?
by NomAd on Jun 30, 2005 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't be silly, NomAd--
by Nico on Jun 30, 2005 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So freaking ridiculous...
by OaktownPower on Jun 29, 2005 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This Chavez=no heart thing
by batgirl on Jun 30, 2005 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Snickers bar?
by monkeyball on Jun 29, 2005 4:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the same thing ...
by oaktownmario on Jun 29, 2005 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was a
by rubin sierra on Jun 29, 2005 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm
but I got a couple of ideas ("team captain" #22 maybe?)
by Alien on Jun 29, 2005 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No snickers for #22
by green star oakland on Jun 29, 2005 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
by Colorado Fan on Jun 29, 2005 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont' think its 22
by BruceBochte on Jun 29, 2005 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
packed with PEANUTS
by monkeyball on Jun 29, 2005 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big deal...
Hmmm...Kit Kats...
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jun 29, 2005 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAS to be byrnes
learn how to hit a slider first, byrnsie...
by xbhaskarx on Jun 29, 2005 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, no, no.
by sf drift king on Jun 29, 2005 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember "Captain America?"
by secret ASian man on Jun 29, 2005 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fan-
by Parklife on Jun 29, 2005 4:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
my favorite line
WEAR IT A'S FANS! WE'RE DAMN GOOD!
by popcornjames on Jun 29, 2005 4:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
As one who has questioned that decision
- The "true" age difference;
- the 2004 payroll, since Miguel's contract would have come up first;
- Something else about Tejada that Beane will obviously never tell us about??
- Or simply Chavez' start this year-- and I wish Blez you had simply said, "but Billy, when your anchor franchise player hits 200 for two months, can you simply wave that kind of performance away as "out of context"? Blez-- Chavy's slump cost this team games;
by oaktoon on Jun 29, 2005 4:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My presumption,
by Nico on Jun 29, 2005 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
two-month slump
by rubin sierra on Jun 29, 2005 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chavy
by sf drift king on Jun 29, 2005 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about what Miggy was really
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jun 29, 2005 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but Blez..
by oaktoon on Jun 29, 2005 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miggy
by hoyos on Jun 29, 2005 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was the year after his MVP year...
by OaktownPower on Jun 29, 2005 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chavy's slump cost this team games?
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jun 29, 2005 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chavez Rules!!!
by As89 on Jun 29, 2005 5:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree heartily
by Nico on Jun 29, 2005 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great point
by boilerdan on Jun 29, 2005 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Blez......Great Work
by Masaryk on Jun 29, 2005 5:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Blez
by Alien on Jun 29, 2005 5:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wear It
Also, OK-OK, I get it. Chavez is going to be a better player than Tejada - Time will tell...
Great Interview. I hope you took a couple AN'ers up on their willingness to transcribe this stuff for you.
Cheers to you,
by Colorado Fan on Jun 29, 2005 5:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
did anyone else hear the ominous organ
One of the things that we are severely lacking in, and it's due to the erosion of losing some guys, is the power. It's an area we need to address going forward. Not just short term, but long term.
I wondered, what the heck does that mean? We're not going to get it through free agency. He says the market is valuing power well, so it's tough to trade for it. Are we just going to start promoting only those guys who can hit homers? Where's Jack Cust?
by Apricot on Jun 29, 2005 5:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
well realistically
He's not upgrading at SS, 3B or C. Barton and Johnson might make a good 1B-DH combo. There aren't many 2B prospects with power.
SO.... it's OF that he's talking about. And he has no great power prospects... meaning..
Kotsay will probably be dealt. and one or two other deals will involve the A's acquiring some power prospects.
by oaktoon on Jun 29, 2005 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good thinking
by rich on Jun 29, 2005 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Byrnes?
by scampiv on Jun 29, 2005 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously ...
by monkeyball on Jun 29, 2005 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope we're going to trade for Jonny Gomes...
by Olijerez77 on Jun 29, 2005 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But ...
by monkeyball on Jun 30, 2005 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's very nonviolent actually
by Apricot on Jun 30, 2005 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But what about Rebenga?
by monkeyball on Jun 30, 2005 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's a sweetie
by Apricot on Jun 30, 2005 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spare tickets for Friday
by achiappanza on Jun 29, 2005 5:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Blez: Thanks so much...
by OaktownPower on Jun 29, 2005 5:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Beane seemed to dislike talking about Tejada
I still stand firm that if the A's had an infield of Chavy, Miggy, Crosby and Johnson at the same time right now, it would kick the Ranger's IF's ass.
by Zonis on Jun 29, 2005 5:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
and it would cost
by rich on Jun 29, 2005 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blez Did a Great Job ...
In terms of the "context" Billy was referring to, I'm guessing he meant ... relative age, time of contracts expiring and an emerging Crosby.
But how does the timing of the contracts fit in? Was it the pitchers? If Billy knew he wasn't going to try to re-sign Hudson or Mulder do you think the timing matters less?
It seems to me that Billy simply made the judgement that Chavez has a higher ceiling than Tejada and that Chavez would be more productive for a longer period of time. He made his choice and he certainly seems willing to "wear it."
As with all judgements of players, it was an educated guess.
by Eck on Jun 29, 2005 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Stuff
Now I cant wait to see what BB has to say about a new stadium and the ownership.
by pickinmachine on Jun 29, 2005 5:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Blez!
These interviews you do are totally choice (yes, I'm getting my latest catch phrase from the commercials run during A's games -- you all are the only ones who will understand!!!).
by rich on Jun 29, 2005 5:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Another Good Interview
Thanks.
by JLeverenz on Jun 29, 2005 5:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
great interview ...
it would be interesting to hear if bb's voice matches the same voice i hear when i read the interview. i had him standing up when talking about chavez.
btw, is there a link around here somewhere to buy aces from amazon? or does anyone want to sell their used copy?
by mookyee on Jun 29, 2005 5:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Aces link
by MychaelUrban on Jun 29, 2005 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
woohoo..
looking forward to part II...
by high street on Jun 29, 2005 6:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Excellent Part I! Thanks!
Hmmmm...Billy might have to make this a weekly meeting.
Considering how long it took you to transcribe this, are you sure you want to make it weekly? :)
As Dana Carvey would say in his impersonation of the late, GREAT Johnny Carson, "This is some weird wild shtuff. I did not know that."
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jun 29, 2005 6:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Question:
I mean, it is more than slightly exceptional. How many GMs are there that communicate like this with the fan base?
by BruceBochte on Jun 29, 2005 6:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Simple.
Basically, it lets him say what he wants, exactly how he wants to, to the people who matter the most (the fans).
Whether or not that's a good thing for the fans is another question altogether. ;-)
by Inquisitor on Jun 29, 2005 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would agree
by ogallalabob on Jun 30, 2005 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
great job Blez!
by gigglingone on Jun 29, 2005 6:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Funny
by Alien on Jun 29, 2005 6:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe because he's
by green star oakland on Jun 29, 2005 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most of the garbage posted about how BB should
Those who love Tejada may not want to hear it but Miguel opted for the megabucks the O's offered rather than have his agent sit down with BB to convey, "The A's saved Miggy from a life of poverty, so Miguel is willing to settle for ONLY $7-8 million to stay in Oakland."
Anyhow, I agree that Crosby could not have been easily converted to third base and that at SS, he will soon make A's forget everything about Tejada except his bonehead failure to run home vs Boston.
by reztips on Jun 29, 2005 6:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
so because he grew up poor
What did Chavez settle for, anyway? Sure as hell wasn't 7-8 million.
That's ludicrous to call him mercenary-- he did nothing that any other player-- repeat any other player, whether they grew up wearing shoes or not-- would have done. In the same shoes.
by oaktoon on Jun 29, 2005 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and let's kill the Red Sox thing, OK??
Without Mulder and with Hudson ailing, do you think we had any chance against the Yankees?
And Byrnes' mistake was worse;
And Macha's moves were worse;
Your anti-Tejada diatribes are growing tiresome.
by oaktoon on Jun 29, 2005 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
can't let Tejada off the hook that easily
by rich on Jun 29, 2005 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But the biggest WILL ALWAYS be
by Masaryk on Jun 30, 2005 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't Take Cheap Shots at Miggy!
Tejada has a ton of heart and truly loved the A's. Had the A's made reasonable offer, my gut tells me he would have taken it -- even if it was for less than what other teams were offering. It's not fair to judge him harshly for taking what he's worth ... especially when he didn't have a choice.
by Eck on Jun 29, 2005 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beane
As for Tejada I do not blame him for taking the biggest contract he could find, he grew up poor, he is supporting his family and he needs to do what he believes is best.
by ogallalabob on Jun 30, 2005 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting interview Blez
In one of the future interviews, I think that the stathead faction of AN (OK, me) would love to hear some questions regarding the front office's use of statistics to evaluate players, prospects, approach the draft, etc. Moneyball only goes so far, and embellishes quite a bit in any event. It would be interesting if you could coax out of him where he feels the organization's offensive, pitching, and fielding metrics are comparted to a) other organizations and b) independent investigators like Baseball Prospectus, Bill James (pre-Red Sox), Lee Sinins, etc.
Once again, great job!
by salb918 on Jun 29, 2005 6:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Forst
The last thing I want to hear is an interview w/ Billy Beane covering a new formula intertwined with the new revelations of sample size.
Speaking of Sample Size, is Tom Brady not a good QB yet because he's only started 70 Games or so??? I'm not sure how that works.
by Colorado Fan on Jun 29, 2005 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Farhad Zaidi
by salb918 on Jun 29, 2005 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dotel Really Screwed the A's
With Durazo also on the shelf, the A's only chips left are Kotsay--if BB determines he can't be signed for a reasonable sum, or prospects like Garcia. BTW, fans of ByrnesBum, if Kotsay is traded--believe me--you don't want to see your fairhaired brainless boy embarrassing himself in CF. Pray he won't play there.
oakTuna, you are in error: Chavvy did sign for a hometown discount of $8 mil because he wanted to stay with Oakland. Tejada obviously did not.
One more thing, oakTuna: always the laughingstock of AN, you call my posts tiresome after you created diary after diary dumping on the A's and Billy Beane. If, as you say, you have become more positive, at least thank me as the theraputic approach I suggested to cure your masochism, a dominitrix, must be paying some dividends. :-)>
by reztips on Jun 29, 2005 7:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
stop it...
ok, we've debated the Tejada/Chavy thing to death. Just accept Beane's answers and move on.
Yes, Dotel's situation screwed us in the trade market, but it wasn't Dotel's fault. They actually said after they did the surgery that he really did need it. And he was pitching crappy before. Something was wrong. He needed to fix it, so he did. Yes, it sucks that our prime trading chip is gone, but we can't blame him for trying to get better. He did what he had to do.
And Kotsay, I hope we resign him. We need him. But if he has to go, we better get some power.
Oh, and Byrnes won't be THAT bad in center. He may make some bonehead plays from time to time, but it wont be the difference between competing or not.
by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 29, 2005 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Swisher
by ogallalabob on Jun 30, 2005 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you get when you divide $66 million
Also, the guy's name is oaktoon. You misspelled it a couple of times.
by orange2299 on Jun 30, 2005 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to Susan Slusher..
Sometimes a teams goals run counterproductive to what a players body says. I think this was one of those times. The A's would have obviously liked Octavio to stay pitching if at all possible so they could either use him or trade him for something useful. Neither came to pass, but I'm betting that the rest of Octavio's career is better because of what he did.
The A's team doctor frequently comes and sits near my seat. I think next time I'll ask him about Dotel and see what he says.
by skwid on Jun 30, 2005 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly--
Look at all the retired athletes who "did what they needed to do to help their team" and are now semi-crippled. Kudos to Dotel for putting his health first, and shame on anyone who puts their own desire for their team's success over the health of a human being.
by Nico on Jun 30, 2005 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In Billy We Trust
by sf drift king on Jun 29, 2005 8:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Awesome interview start there...
Keep it coming Blez! Your fans crave more! :D
by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 29, 2005 8:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tejada/ Chavez
Also people assume that the A's had the choice between the 2 players, if I recall correctly Tejada pretty much said he was looking for a huge contract, to take care of his family. There was no home team discount coming, while I think Chavez did take less then he would have gotten on the free agent market.
Pluss given their ages, I think the A's made the right % play at the time, we will see in 3-4 years if it plays out.
by ogallalabob on Jun 30, 2005 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
bump!
by gojohn10 on Jun 29, 2005 9:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think what I like so much about Beane...
I don't know how I'd feel if the A's mortgaged their future as so many clubs have done to win that one big series. I would argue that knowing your team will have a chance EVERY year is what makes the A's so special...that and the fact that they have the most amazing draft/farm systems.
I LOVE this team. And I think BB has been a big part of why.
by baseballgirl on Jun 29, 2005 9:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
WS title
by gojohn10 on Jun 29, 2005 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow...
Why doesn't he just talk about the Dropkick Murphys and sound young? <jk>
by secret ASian man on Jun 29, 2005 10:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
All in all,
by secret ASian man on Jun 29, 2005 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are we going to do for power? Trade for...
by calvin on Jun 29, 2005 10:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Great interview!
Good luck on getting the next two parts up! I look forward to reading it, especially the part about the draft!
by Melody on Jun 29, 2005 11:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The "Buyers/Sellers" Conversation ...
By refusing to say the A's won't be sellers, my guess is Billy is saying he's going to trade away one of his big chips. That could only be Kotsay or Zito.
Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but it sounded to me like Billy was trying to justify trading away someone popular to acquire some offensive pop.
If Kotsay signs an extension, that means Zito goes. If Kotsay is not signed in the next two weeks -- which is more likely -- he's off to the Cubs or Yankees.
by Eck on Jun 29, 2005 11:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Eck, I think
His point, I think, was that the A's approach EVERY year as a "contending/reloading" year and approach EVERY trade deadline as "both buyers and sellers," because that is how teams contend and reload at the same time.
At least that's my interpretation.
by Nico on Jun 29, 2005 11:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Granted, Nico ...
The way he went back to the importance of power sounded to me a little like he was trying to justify something. Maybe that AAA power hitter from the Phillies?
Of course, it's certainly possible I'm reading too much into this.
But I think Billy might be trying to keep perspective that -- despite the team's current fantastic run -- the A's are a longshot to make the postseason this year. I think he was saying that he's willing to give up someone popular who helps the team in 2005 for a bit more power in 2006, '07 and '08.
by Eck on Jun 29, 2005 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I think Eck is correct
I'll miss Barry.
by calvin on Jun 29, 2005 11:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm starting to be convinced.
by Apricot on Jun 29, 2005 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying
by Nico on Jun 29, 2005 11:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Possibly, Nico.
I think when Billy comes on AN he's trying to explain moves that might come across as controversial. He's trying to make his case to some of his most educated core supporters -- folks likely to give him the benefit of the doubt.
When he trades Kotsay or Zito for a AAA slugger, we can all say, "It was part of Billy's plan. He said so on AN."
Not that there's anything wrong with that. I have no problem with either a potential trade or the PR work he's doing to win support.
by Eck on Jun 30, 2005 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
now that the cold war is over...
while we're on the subject, where are the beane propaganda shirts, blez??
by xbhaskarx on Jun 30, 2005 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice quote Billy
by mwla25 on Jun 29, 2005 11:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Awesome first installment!
by anomaly_kat on Jun 30, 2005 12:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
buying and selling
There's a new Rosenthal column out, mostly about Adam Dunn being on the trading block. It sounds like the price - both the prospects that Cincinatti wants, and the salary that Dunn will command for the next couple of years - is beyond Oakland's means, but in light of Beane's comments about wanting to add power I'm still dreaming a bit that it might happen. He also mentions that the Phillies are asking a lot for Ryan Howard. I'd be nervous about giving up too much there. He could be a legit slugger, but he could also be the next Jack Cust or Calvin Pickering - guys who have great power with only the minor problems of not being able to hit major league pitching or field their positions.
by andeux on Jun 30, 2005 12:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
or more simply
by xbhaskarx on Jun 30, 2005 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
a little too simple
by andeux on Jun 30, 2005 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was half joking
by xbhaskarx on Jun 30, 2005 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know this sounds crazy..
by capper3 on Jun 30, 2005 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sheff not a chance
by ogallalabob on Jun 30, 2005 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, you're right.
by capper3 on Jun 30, 2005 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Posada
I personally would pull the trigger on Kotsay + Kendall (+ Ellis?) for Sheffield + Posada (+ Cano?) + $$$. I'd even be tempted to do the straight-up 2-2 (3-3?) trade without the money.
Sheffield's addition at the plate would more than offset the defensive dropoff from Kotsay to Byrnes or Thomas (and, quite frankly, Byrnes might be an offensive upgrade over Kotsay oin a daily basis; even $2 Chuck might be, if he's truly capable of hitting anywhere near as well in the bigs as he's shown at Sacto).
And Posada would be an immense upgrade over Kendall offensively, and probably a wash defensively. And Posada's contract also ends a year earlier.
by monkeyball on Jun 30, 2005 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're assuming...
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jun 30, 2005 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is that to consider
I don't think that Sheff-to-the-A's is going to happen anyway, so we probably don't need to worry about it ...
And in the game of which-jackass-who-can-hit-the-snot-out-of-the-ball-and-throw-peas-from-RF-would-you-rather-have, I would take Sheffield over Guillen, even with the contract disparity.
by monkeyball on Jun 30, 2005 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Billy Beane gets it
Thanks to Billy Beane, we now understand that is is possible to simultaneously believe that 1) Tejada was and is a terrific player, 2) Chavy is a terrific player, and 3) Crosby will likely be a terrific player in the future. One does not actually have to stop believing 1) in order to believe either 2) or 3).
by orange2299 on Jun 30, 2005 1:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Interpreting Beane
Beane has said, repeatedly, that he won't trade Zito this year. He could always change his mind, of course, if a team offers him the moon. But let's take him at his word. What does that mean? It means he won't trade Zito during this season. It doesn't mean he won't trade him in the offseason, and if the young starters continue to perform well, it's possible he will deal Zito to get the right-handed power bat the team needs in 2006 and beyond.
But is this the right idea? If he's going to trade Zito, wouldn't his value be higher at the deadline - when a trade partner would get Zito for this season and next season? I don't know why Beane is so insistent on this point, unless he just wants to cool the rumor mill.
As for Kotsay, it seems likely that the game of "chicken" will continue between Beane and Kotsay's agent. But I also don't know whether Kotsay is part of Beane's 2006-2008 plan for the team, or if he hopes to deal him in exchange for the aforementioned power bat.
A lot of the interview went over the Tejada/Chavez thing, and we won't really know the whole story on that one. I doubt there is some big secret, though. Beane had an up-and-coming shortstop to replace Tejada, so he "chose" the younger Chavez. The problem, thus far, is that while Chavez has been a good player for the A's, Tejada has been a tremendous player for the Orioles.
That said, the decison - if one accepts the budgetary restrictions as a given - was hardly irrational. I'm less sold on Chavez as the franchise cornerstone than Beane, but I might have done the same thing in his position.
by bear88 on Jun 30, 2005 1:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
sweet interview Blez
QUOTE IT:
Beane: I love Chavy. He's an absolutely fantastic player. I am so pleased that we have him.
My sentiments EXACTLY!!
by ChavysGrl3 on Jun 30, 2005 1:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
by nickatt7 on Jun 30, 2005 3:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If the A's can't sign Kotsay
Understand, I think highly of Kotsay. But if he is not viable economically, the likes of Cameron would be a welcome alternative. While Kotsay probably won't mind playing RF for the Mets, Cameron is said not to be happy stuck in RF in NY.
'Course, Kotsay says he wants to play for a winner and with a big budget and a few more additions, the Mets might provide that (in a relatively weak division) for Kotsay in the seasons to come. And at least the Mets no longer have Art Not Smart Howe at the helm for Kotsay to laugh at.
Come to think of it, the A's should toss Bumblin Byrnesy into any trade mix. Just get his pathetic ByrnesBrain out of town, whatever it takes...
by reztips on Jun 30, 2005 7:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Do you have a bet going...
I was just starting to agree and like some of your comments above.
by baseballgirl on Jun 30, 2005 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A little interpersonal skill
by Nico on Jun 30, 2005 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's not as strange as when he randomly bashes
by xbhaskarx on Jun 30, 2005 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's kind of like RBIA
by Nico on Jun 30, 2005 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ITNTIWU
by baseballgirl on Jun 30, 2005 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, he said random!
by baseballgirl on Jun 30, 2005 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WSOIEQKFR!
by xbhaskarx on Jun 30, 2005 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forgive you--
by Nico on Jun 30, 2005 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
is that what those pills
by xbhaskarx on Jun 30, 2005 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good stuff
That answer from Beane exemplifies everything that is good about being an A's fan.
I also liked how he said "there is no 5-year plan", which gave me the sense that the A's will keep winning now and not 06' like many have claimed "is the plan".
Plans are for jerks. This team is built to win now, today, tomorrow, and forever. Believe it or not, they will give the Angels a run for their money.Go A's!
by Force on Jun 30, 2005 8:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
OT: request for Blez
We now return to your regularly scheduled Mike Cameron rumor.
by Apricot on Jun 30, 2005 8:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I have a philosophy
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jun 30, 2005 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Faith and vision
Seems like such a short time ago that everybody (media, fans) were questioning the philosophy. Now that the team is so much fun to watch again, we return to the faith.
Why is Ellis not playing? Why Ginter and not Hatty at DH?
Blez: Were you sitting front row behind the plate last night??
by kimnjerry on Jun 30, 2005 8:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
New drinking game!
But seriously, I totally understand his frustration... what a pain in the butt to have to keep answering that.
And thanks, Blez! Looking forward to the rest of it! :-D
by Poppy on Jun 30, 2005 9:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
excellent interview, Blez.
by Sharon on Jun 30, 2005 10:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Snickers
by AlwaysSweatin on Jun 30, 2005 11:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Blez
by NomAd on Jun 30, 2005 11:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Awesome interview Blez!
by A'sfansince1970 on Jun 30, 2005 11:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you soooo much, Blez!
Great interview. I love Billy's description of what a leader is, or is not. I agree with him completly. It's not about a guy who just has a big mouth and throws tantrums.
by AsGirl on Jun 30, 2005 11:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
beane's comments on power
looks like giambi screwed the a's for years by "developing" power...
by xbhaskarx on Jun 30, 2005 12:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Crosby at cleanup
by monkeyball on Jun 30, 2005 12:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Love it
And I love the insight into his thoughts on power, leadership, and why Chavy over Miggy. For once and for all, can we let BB have the last word and no more talk about Miggy.
Other goodies:
"From an individual standpoint, the pitchers have been no surprise with how they've done. Specifically, Blanton and Haren early in the year. Their early season ups and downs are exactly what you would expect from young guys."
I was on the brink of asking for Blanton's head back in May. I don't know how many of us forgot that we should be patient with the young guys.
"The month of May, just throw it off the map, because there is nothing you can learn from that situation."
Yes, sir!
"The goal here is not to have a cute little team that's competitive. The goal here is to have a team where year after year we are competing for a playoff spot. That's always the way I think."
With all due respect, Mr. Beane, that's a damn cute team you got there. Haren, Crosby, Swisher, Street...
by BillybUcko on Jun 30, 2005 1:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Throw May off the map
And I'll add, thanks Blez!
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