So the Dominoes Fall
Peter Gammons just said on ESPNEWS that A.J. Burnett is signing with the Toronto Blue Jays for 5 years and $55 million. He said it would be announced in the next hour or so.
That's the domino the A's have been waiting for. Now that Burnett's market has been set, the teams that missed out on him can start chasing after Barry Zito.
I expect things will heat up very shortly.
By the way, for those of you who were wondering why AN was down for close to 12 hours from Friday night/Saturday morning I have an interesting story to share.
Apparently, our server host bought a new building, and had to physically move all the servers over to the new place. It was supposed to take about two hours, Friday night/Saturday morning. It was going to be a small disruption which most people wouldn't notice.
But the NYPD got a bomb threat against the NYSE, and the van with our servers got trapped in the police net. A bomb-sniffing dog checked out the van and apparently some sort of cologne set the dog off. So the police locked down the van all morning until they could ensure that everything was legit.
Now you know. No word on whether or not there was another bomb threat today that caused the servers to go down again for an hour or so.
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By the way...
by Tyler Bleszinski on Dec 5, 2005 3:48 PM PST reply actions
New York City?!
That's the magic of the internet, no?
Yeah but
Correction:
Silicone = fake boobs
Slight difference.
new york city?
Also, my friend Johanna is downn in Dallas for the winter meetings. She's gonna keep a blog of what's going on on her website:
lovemyteam.com
I don't want Barry to leave. Although a big bat or two would be nice.
Buster Onley reporting
Things are so heated up
<grunts, gesticulates>
<smashes denuded thighbone on wild boar skull>
<eyes glint in prehistoric gloaming>
I was going to say...
I remember back in college ...
(I also remember when the drama club performed Ionesco's "1:4:9 obelisk" play.)
I thought 1-4-9
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Dec 5, 2005 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
And yet, he too would look sweet
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Dec 5, 2005 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
Billy Beane appearing Off-Broadway
Headline: BEANE TRADES ZITO FOR GIANT SPACE BABY
The conclusion to this saga has left fans confused and annoyed.
"A giant space baby?," one dusgruntled A's fan was heard to mutter. "Even with Loaiza filling Zito's slot in the lineup, what does that get us? The giant space baby has no major league experience. I seriously doubt he'll give us the right-handed pop our lineup needs. Heck, I don't even know what a giant space baby means? What was this whole Zito plot line about, anyway?"
Defenders of the move note the giant space baby's plate discipline as the factor that moved Beane to pull the trigger on this trade. More sceptical analysts cite rumors that the computer on which Beane relies for his statistical analyses has been badly malfunctioning of late.
Barry Zito could not be reached for comment. He will apparently be spending eternity -- or at least the remaining year on his current contract -- in a strange but opulent bedroom, decorated in Louis XIV style furniture, but lit from the floor.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Dec 6, 2005 9:32 AM PST up reply actions
the last 15 minutes of 2001 ...
He did not say that
God i hope not...
re
Third player
So Blez, can you get your e-mail when the server is down?
For whatever reason
by Tyler Bleszinski on Dec 5, 2005 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
So you shouldn't
Technology is EVIL!
They're either fairly competent or just lucky
Zito to dodgers
by dp48 on Dec 5, 2005 3:54 PM PST reply actions
I was wondering what had happened
by BobbyCrosbysGirl on Dec 5, 2005 4:02 PM PST reply actions
I was afraid
Oh. No. Mister. Bill (not King).
by NomAd on Dec 5, 2005 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly what I thought too!
Team Chemistry....
The Buster article was just rumor feed, nothing more. Zito is still an A.
Hey, the A's are looking for an impact player
Doh!
What a joke?
Manram- Please stay in Beantown. California is not your kind of place.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Dec 5, 2005 4:04 PM PST reply actions
Can you believe Burnett
I hope so
Quick thought here
He also can play CF, enabling us to move Payton while keeping our solid OF defense. I think I'd rather see a Encarnacion/Kotsay/Bradley OF than Payton/Kotsay/Bradley. While it might take $6 million to add Juan, we'd still be money ahead if Zito is dealt for Billingsley, Bradley, Broxton, and Choi (especially if Ginter is included). A younger, more athletic OF, with two RH hitters added.
Any thoughts on this?
The Marlins offered him arbitration?
Oh no
Why is it that
Because of...
by BobbyCrosbysGirl on Dec 5, 2005 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
Couldn't tell ya
Can we please leave . . .
agreed....
i'd say yes
Ugh
by Czech Micah on Dec 5, 2005 4:11 PM PST reply actions
Dobre Den!
Now, onto baseball.
Ahoj
Wow, a fellow Czech I hope on AN! Fantastic. Havel is truly an inspiration, a man whose brilliance and courage a man such as myself can only hope to emulate? If I may ask, what works have you read by Havel and where did you first become introduced to his wonderful writing?
by Czech Micah on Dec 5, 2005 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
Billingsley??? nah!
vr, Xei
by xeifrank @ Athletics Nation on Dec 5, 2005 4:15 PM PST reply actions
I just saw this on RotoWorld
Athletics acquired RHP Chad Gaudin from the Toronto Blue Jays for a player to be named.
It figured that someone would want him, and it's not much of a surprise that it's J.P.'s old boss. The A's probably won't have room for Gaudin at the start of next year, but he'll be an option in middle relief or maybe at the bottom of the rotation later on. Dec. 5 - 7:22 pm et
who gots the 4-1-1 on this guy?
Called It
He's a good fit - young and cheap.
mad props
It looks like the A's had an extra spot on the 40-man roster to take him, and the Jays didn't (in fact, they'll need to dump someone else to make a spot for Burnett, if those rumors are true). His major league numbers so far are nothing to get excited about, but at worst he's a warm body for Sacramento of the Etherton/Glynn/Serrano type
Gaudin
AAA 9-8 3.35 ERA 23 GS 150.1 IP 140 H 35/113 BB/K
MLB Total: 4-5 5.46 46 G/ 10 GS 95.2 IP 127 H 38/65 BB/K
Looking up a report on his stuff...
didn't he pitch against us this year?
Am I overanalyzing? Is there such thing as overanalyzing on AN?
More on Gaudin
90 MPH FB, slider and change. 5'11 165 lbs. R/R
we knocked him around in june
The A's have removed John Baker from the 40 man
Urban on mlb.com radio
I'm hoping they'll post it...
Someone wrote in about Barry in Redsocks...Urban says Redsox fans might like that, doesn't know about A's fans...and Redsox don't really have anybody to trade.
Billy thinks (so do we) that if Harden and Crosby are healthy we win the west last season
More possible to package Saarloos/Kennedy/Ginter maybe in a deal for Bradley..
Did Dan Johnson push Hatteberg out of 1st base..yeah, but Scott really fell off last season, and AL Managers voted Johnson for a Topps award (???)
Urban raved about Huston STreet, not only his pitching (and he thinks he could be even better next season - not as much throwing over winter. And Huston gets stronger as season progresses)but, his attitude (Urban wants to sit down with Huston's parents and ask them how they raised a kid like that)
New ownership may mean more $$ and the fact that Wolff offered BB ownership, is smart..
"All good news when it comes to Oakland" whether or not Billy moves Zito
And as Blez said earlier...Billy is the belle of the ball at winter meeting and he is loving it.
Good interview,although nothing really new if you are on AN, hope they post it and we can hear it again.
One big question
Are those Billy's words (paraphrased perhaps) or is that Urban's opinion?
Billy is always the belle of my ball. :-)
Yeah, and Billy LOVES it.
Maybe
Was DePo the only one that carried his laptop
Man
by Tyler Bleszinski on Dec 5, 2005 5:14 PM PST reply actions
Rosenthal
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5141070
Are you a Direct TV Subscriber?
Check it before you wreck it.
I think this is an XM Radio simulcast
Thanks for the info!
Gaudin
Sounds good to me...
My thoughts
In terms of the Zito situation, Obviously, Zito for Bradley flat is not good enough, but as I said before I love Bradley and think he would be great in Oakland.
My guess is that the A's wont do a big trade until perhaps the last day or later. Just like last year. Im not sure if people remember but a lot of people including myself were despressed lack their of a better word, that the A's had not done a trade and the meetings were closing down.
Hopefully Billy pulls some magic.
Less than Zito
I'll leave it to others to present data to the point, but I'd have to imagine Payton, Kotsay and Bradley to be one of the best defensive outfields in the game -- perhaps it wouldn't be the "A" lineup, but it's an alignment we'd see frequently.
And -- if it turned out that Swish was destined to see most of the innings at first -- is Bradley a good enough center fielder that moving Kotsay to right (which he has described as his favorite outfield position) would be considered?
Gettin' ahead of things, but I'd welcome Bradley -- and it shouldn't take Zito to get it done.
by Hot Corner on Dec 5, 2005 7:04 PM PST up reply actions
Very true.
That'd be sweet
Salaries are about equivalent, yes?
sports talk radio is hilarious
No, it's not Steiner.
Burnett to Jays not assured
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2248966
here it is
though it is speculation like everything else
by sctr76 on Dec 5, 2005 7:44 PM PST up reply actions
says -- just one writer's opinon
by Rangla on Dec 6, 2005 1:05 AM PST up reply actions
this guy says Bradley for Saarloos and Mario Ramos
I dunno, it sounds too specific to be BS. thats just my opinion though.
Well, for what it's worth...
We'll see...
Mychael Urban, that is.
I'd take that one, too
If true..
This guy says the same
and he claims his source is in Sacramento (wonder if it's EIO? btw I can't access tha latter's website at the moment.)
Bob's link
uhm..
And I can get onto EIO. Weird.
well that's the internet for you
btw I didn't assume that "Jerry" was the source in Sacramento, even thought that's possible.
I would have liked for
by Ben25 on Dec 5, 2005 7:25 PM PST reply actions
too many interesting rumors...
ay caramba
Kent part: who cares? Pregnant wife beating: UGH. I can't root for this guy in the green and gold.
Please let it be someone else.
Fair point
The nature of the A' budget requires them to take chances in order to find value. Maybe they can keep him in line for one year. I want them to win so badly that I may be able to tolerate this one.
Beane should be attacking Coletti, Omar, Daniels and the Red Sox consortium. He should stay away from Shuerholtz.
Beane
But just for the record, Daniels and the Red Sox office aren't bad. They're actually above average. The jury is still out on Coletti, though I think DePo was a better GM. Omar is throwing money left and right, and who knows? it might buy him a WS just like it bought the Yankees a WS or two.
Correction
It would be a grudging
We all rooted for David Justice!!!
by saint @ Athletics Nation on Dec 6, 2005 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
Seriously. :-/
Trading Kirk "I love my mom" Saarloos for him? ...Seems like with Kirktastic's performance last season we could get someone slightly less PSYCHO.
Word!
Plus, from reading Moneyball, it seemed like Beane's first criteria, before any stat, was character. I know it was more 'will play and not hold out' character, but still. We need only look as far as TO to see how one psycho can cause the dominoes to fall that bring a whole team down.
by blueconversechucks on Dec 6, 2005 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
no...
I'm not a boo-er, especially not against anyone in green & gold (or even formerly in green & gold) -- but I'm definitely going to sit on my hands and stay quiet if Bradley is ever introduced as an Oakland Athletic.
Saarloos and Mario Ramos for Bradley
Milton Bradley could be on his way to the A's for right-hander Kirk Saarloos and left-hander Mario Ramos.
Rumors are floating that it's a done deal. The A's official site says only that the team has offered Saarloos and another player to the Dodgers for Bradley. If the A's get Bradley, they could play Nick Swisher at first base and use Dan Johnson as a DH. Another option would be to trade Jay Payton or Mark Kotsay and continue to pursue a designated hitter.
I feel like I'm going in circles...
haha sorry
< deleting saarloos, ramos, bradley comment >
Don't apologize.
If that's the deal
So we're basically getting Bradley for free.
AND ... we still have Kennedy and Cruz as SP trading chips. Sounds good to me.
this deal
<crossing fingers>
by pickinmachine on Dec 5, 2005 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
I'd Rather...
Saarloos could be a very effective arm out of the bullpen...dude rolls DP's like it's nothing.
I agree...
by MichiganAsFan on Dec 5, 2005 11:50 PM PST up reply actions
Plus, Saarloos is a better 6th
by blueconversechucks on Dec 6, 2005 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Bradley's contract situation
good to know...
I think he has this year
Last year bfore FA...
by FireballerHARDEN on Dec 5, 2005 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
ugh..
what makes you think that?
by FireballerHARDEN on Dec 5, 2005 8:44 PM PST up reply actions
Rotoworld?!
by rsquared on Dec 5, 2005 8:50 PM PST reply actions
Bradley first came up after allstar break 2000
So 2006 will be his last season before becoming eligible for free agency.
Payton and Bradley
It'd be unfortunate if Dan Johnson got crowded out of a position entirely, which in theory could happen if the A's have Payton, Bradley, and Kotsay in the outfield, move Swisher to first, and pick up a DH (instead of Johnson DHing).
He only had problems with Francona
by SuperDingus on Dec 6, 2005 7:08 AM PST up reply actions
With all the injuries the past couple years
by blueconversechucks on Dec 6, 2005 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
Nice deal...
by Little Rickey on Dec 5, 2005 9:12 PM PST reply actions
"Bradley is likely
Just as long as
I thought that story sounded familiar
Here's the deal...
Ha Ha Ha
by Charlie Brown on Dec 5, 2005 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
rumor
Barry Zito for Kevin Mench
by Czech Micah on Dec 5, 2005 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
Zito for Mench
* The Ford C. Frick Award is announced tomorrow *
by Colorado Fan on Dec 5, 2005 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
C'mon--
It's just a rumor,
by OaktownRajah on Dec 5, 2005 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
it's KNBR...
Alas, we'd still be able to hear them in Idaho.
Not that there's anything wrong with Idaho...
Don't be so sure
by Furious George on Dec 6, 2005 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
kotsay or payton?
that's kind of what i was imagining...
http://www.athleticsnation.com/comments/2005/12/5/234738/265/38#38
come on, folks
Mueller is a free agent
Sounds a little off
Bradley
vr, Xei
by xeifrank @ Athletics Nation on Dec 5, 2005 10:18 PM PST reply actions
where did you get that from?
i don't buy it
by Ryan Armbrust on Dec 5, 2005 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
Bradley source
and the Sacto station mentioned earlier in the thread. Bradley is a very good hitter, very good on defense, underpaid, but has the temper thing to deal with. I'd say when you throw in Ethier the trade evens out. Saarloos, Kennedy and Ramos is a joke! vr, Xei
by xeifrank @ Athletics Nation on Dec 5, 2005 10:33 PM PST reply actions
keep in mind,
So unless someone else (Phils?) have offered more, it's gunna be Saarloos and Ramos.
forget the temperment...
by balldood on Dec 5, 2005 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
no deal imminant
Do you think he is not tipping his hand or that there is no deal?
by sctr76 on Dec 6, 2005 8:46 AM PST reply actions
Just thinking out loud
Arizona.
you know who else could use a good SP?
Wow, just imagine bringing in Quentin, Jackson, Nippert and Enrique Gonzalez
How bout
by Dig the Long Ball on Dec 6, 2005 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
what the who now?!
by dpetri2000 on Dec 6, 2005 10:29 AM PST reply actions
for the right price ...
nice pickup?
by sctr76 on Dec 6, 2005 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
this is like what happens ...
"Look -- a squirrel! Hey, my nuts itch. Oh -- a car! I'm hungry. I wonder what that smells like. Look -- a squirrel!"
I'm very confident....
Yes, I could get a hit of David Wells, of this I am sure.
A's fans, you don't want him on your team. Now Kenny Rogers, at least from a pitching stand-point, is a whole different story...
by Czech Micah on Dec 6, 2005 4:38 PM PST up reply actions

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