My Nightmare Scenario
"Good morning, gentlemen. Mr. Forst, always nice to see you, Mr. Bradley, welcome, and this must be your agent--nice to meet you, Mr. Levinson--ok, shall we proceed? Mr. Forst, why don't you begin?"
"Thank you. First of all, we really only acquired Mr. Bradley because for all his talent, no one else much wanted him and the Dodgers couldn't wait to unload him--and for good reason. Mr. Bradley is coming off not one but two injuries, so we're not even sure he'll be able to play full-time right away; and if he can, we're not sure he'll be able to perform that well. Plus, the guy is haunted by so much non-baseball related baggage it wouldn't all fit in the overhead bin of a 747. The guy fights with teammates, he fights with fans; heck, the police have his home number on speed dial. The guy's a walking--correct that, a limping--disaster waiting to happen. So we feel--"
"Hang on, Mr. Forst. Mr. Bradley, you need to sit down--Mr. Bradley, SIT DOWN. Mr. Levinson, you need to tell your client to calm down; explain to him that this just is how an arbitration hearing works..."
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Right on Nico
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/story/2005/12/14/105543/83
by salb918 on
Dec 17, 2005 10:13 AM PST
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Excellent writeup, Sal
by Nico on
Dec 17, 2005 10:19 AM PST
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No worries
by salb918 on
Dec 17, 2005 2:00 PM PST
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Thanks, Sal--
by Nico on
Dec 17, 2005 2:19 PM PST
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Cruz Control
by Dig the Long Ball on
Dec 17, 2005 10:25 AM PST
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I recall the A's
by Nico on
Dec 17, 2005 10:37 AM PST
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yes they went to arb with Cruz
He was the only guy last year that they went through arb with, with every one else they were able to avoid the process.
Who knows how much of that has to do with the Cruz results on the field, but for certain there is a darn good reason why GMs want to avoid arb if at all possible.
Agree that we really don't want to go through this with Bradley.
by jakarta on
Dec 17, 2005 11:07 AM PST
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Cautiously optimistic
Of course, I'm also cautiously optimistic that Uncle Miltie will both maintain his cool and his health throughout 2006. Ah, the hopefulness of the holiday season!
by FreeSeatUpgrade on
Dec 17, 2005 10:56 AM PST
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I'm optimistic too,
by Nico on
Dec 17, 2005 11:10 AM PST
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Another thing to remember
I'm laying down my bet now that Bradley's contract issue is resolved without much to do.
by Alien on
Dec 17, 2005 11:22 AM PST
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Good point; I agree.
In other words, it is financially possible for the A's to pay Bradley a little more, and it is financially prudent for Bradley and his agent to accept a little less. The two sides should be able to settle and get off on the right foot.
by Nico on
Dec 17, 2005 11:28 AM PST
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What you are...
by doubleplayer on
Dec 17, 2005 11:59 AM PST
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getting off on the right foot,
Alien, I think you're right. The A's front liners aren't going to be the ones to throw a wet rag on this. They'll give him a fair (and perhaps incentive-laden) contract and make him feel wanted.
I believe he and his wife just had their first child. My hope is that he has a more mature perspective on life. He hinted at this even in the infamous KNBR interview. If this is true, then Billy Beane got him at EXACTLY the right time.
The world hasn't changed so much in a year that Bradley's newfound beatitude won't be challenged by SOMEthing that happens this year, though. I sure hope he can take it in stride when it does. This is very dramatic, stuff, really.
by Brian in 317 on
Dec 17, 2005 11:59 AM PST
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Ok, I thought
One thing that new players have consistantly said about Oakland A's Fans is that they were surprised by how welcoming they are. The minute they walk on the field they know the fans are behind them.
Now is this piece showing Bradley that we, the fans, are behind him? No, it shows that we are fearful and even more fearful of the possiblity of him staying long term. Why would he want to stay with a team long term where the fans treat him that way.
So for myself, I am "keeping and open mind" as Bradley has requested we do for him. On opening day, I am going to cheer just as loudly for him as any other player on the team (with the exception of Bobby, of course!;)) and I am going to WAIT before I judge him.
New town, New team, New life, New fans, New Reputation!
by BobbyCrosbysGirl on
Dec 17, 2005 12:00 PM PST
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Don't worry
Other than a couple of people, this site has been a lot more welcoming of Bradley than I'm sure he'd expect.
I also doubt he reads this, but still...
by SeanR on
Dec 17, 2005 12:28 PM PST
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Presactly--
I think MB might, and I truly hope he does, have a great experience in Oakland--and I have a lot of compassion for the circumstances that have produced this interesting man with a penchant for angry outbursts.
But all this doesn't mean I will refrain from (hopefully) humorously referencing his history, because I am, however slightly, in the "entertainment industry". In fact, though, I'm rooting wholeheartedly, and somewhat optimistically, for his success.
by Nico on
Dec 17, 2005 2:18 PM PST
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Just a thought...
Just a thought.
by NomAd on
Dec 18, 2005 11:36 AM PST
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Two years
by grover on
Dec 17, 2005 12:20 PM PST
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Damn straight.
by Kyli on
Dec 18, 2005 11:16 AM PST
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Nightmare Flashback
Well, after we all were able to breathe again (AN to the rescue)..just look at the season we had in 2005!
So I am still in line for the Kool-aid: In Billy We Trust.
And I am very optimistic and excited about next season, springtraining can't come soon enough.
by LongTimeFan on
Dec 17, 2005 2:14 PM PST
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Maybe I'm in the minority
Message to MB if he peruses this site. Hit the ball, catch the ball, run the bases, hit for power and average. All else is forgiven....if there was ever anything to forgive. Do those things well and I'll cheer. Stink it up and I might.....just might....boo. If I do it will be from somewhere far away.....you won't even hear it.
by alox on
Dec 17, 2005 2:37 PM PST
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Well said alox ...
It will be nice to see a player show some emotion ... hopefully it will rub off on some of the other guys. His meltdown with the bag of balls last year was classic.
Question Nico: other than the Jeff Kent thing (which certainly wasn't Kent's first run-in and won't be his last,) which teammates has Bradley had it out with? I'm thinking this "aspect" of his reputation is overblown. I've never read one thing about him being a "bad" teammate or a problem in the clubhouse.
by Vacafan on
Dec 17, 2005 3:55 PM PST
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My recollection
The point of the diary, though, if it wasn't clear to some, was that in arbitration the team must paint the bleakest picture possible and must do it in front of the player (which is a rule I don't personally agree with, but that's the rule). My "words from Forst" have no bearing on my opinion, or even what I think Forst's opinion is, but rather on the way the Forsts have to speak about the Bradleys in an arbitration hearing.
by Nico on
Dec 17, 2005 4:24 PM PST
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Your scenario was
I was pointing out that I really don't care what Bradley has done in the past. As an A's fan I am interested in his future....and not much else. I actually enjoy the "on the field tirades". I took my kids to see the D-rays a couple seasons ago....and true to form, Lou did not disappoint. Loved it.
I enjoyed your scenario, but I guess all the stuff I've been reading about MB being a head case who will destroy our "team chemistry" (whatever that is) has started to get annoying. Sorry if it seemed I was capping on you....I wasn't.
by alox on
Dec 17, 2005 11:25 PM PST
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meltdowns
by Lodifan on
Dec 17, 2005 6:27 PM PST
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very poor comment IMO Nico.
We've done the same before here in Oakland, why can't we welcome this guy with love and open arms--positive attitude for what he might contribute.
don't be a NY sports writer Nico! let's support this team. It could be such a magical team if things fall together.
by alamedaman on
Dec 17, 2005 10:06 PM PST
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wait
by ohad on
Dec 17, 2005 10:20 PM PST
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thanks, no I didn't understand the post.
by alamedaman on
Dec 20, 2005 8:01 AM PST
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oh give me a break
secondly, the A's are not going to want to drop the hammer on a player they just acquired. especially considering the fact that he already feels so persecuted, i'm sure they'll want to make him feel welcome and wanted.
and thirdly, although he's temperamental and emotional, milton bradley is a smart guy. i'm sure he knows what arbitration hearings are like, and even if he doesn't, his agent will likely explain it to him.
anyway, as you described it, this isn't even a "nightmare" scenario. it's completely implausible, and i don't even see the point of bringing it up in the way you did.
by vishal on
Dec 17, 2005 10:34 PM PST
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This is Satire People, Satire!
Sorry for sounding like bossy School Marm Sue, but ...
So what is the timeline here? When do they need to reach a contract before arbitration kicks in?
by SportySpice on
Dec 18, 2005 10:09 AM PST
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yeah
by vishal on
Dec 18, 2005 10:32 AM PST
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Well, technically, this may
Nico needs to learn to be less subtle, I guess. :-)
by Kyli on
Dec 18, 2005 11:22 AM PST
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um, lighten up
Vishal: It's completely implausible. You're right. That's why it's his frikkin nightmare scenario. This whole thing is a joke designed to give us something to laugh at on a slow news day.....
by ohad on
Dec 18, 2005 12:40 PM PST
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Now there's someone
by Nico on
Dec 18, 2005 1:38 PM PST
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I may have had too much too drink...
Nice work.
by Czech Micah on
Dec 17, 2005 11:29 PM PST
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cool quote
by tdwclark on
Dec 18, 2005 7:24 AM PST
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Tough crowd, Nico
by grover on
Dec 17, 2005 11:52 PM PST
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Sense of Humor....
by PosterNutbag44 on
Dec 18, 2005 1:29 AM PST
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To quote The Family Guy...
"But, you can't do anything."
"Well, then, I guess I'll have to develop a sense of humor..."
by TravelingAsFan on
Dec 18, 2005 7:07 AM PST
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LOL, no worries--
In the meantime, I'm working with AN's tech guy to install closed captioning for the humor impaired. I'm hoping the software arrives next Sunday...strapped to the saddle of my pony!
by Nico on
Dec 18, 2005 10:43 AM PST
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Now you've gone too far
No no no no no no no no no no no no no...
That's just wrong.
by grover on
Dec 18, 2005 11:01 AM PST
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I'm not offended by "Blezzie"
by FreeSeatUpgrade on
Dec 18, 2005 12:37 PM PST
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Offended? No. Disgusted? YES!
Why not just call him Snuggle Bunny and get it over with?
by grover on
Dec 18, 2005 1:23 PM PST
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We agreed we wouldn't
by Nico on
Dec 18, 2005 1:35 PM PST
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Don't you love me,
by salb918 on
Dec 18, 2005 3:41 PM PST
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i'm not humor-impaired!
by vishal on
Dec 18, 2005 11:19 AM PST
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Will do, V...
by Nico on
Dec 18, 2005 11:24 AM PST
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there you go.
by vishal on
Dec 18, 2005 11:29 AM PST
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you certainly can't
by alox on
Dec 18, 2005 1:17 PM PST
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Needed a better closing hook
by FreeSeatUpgrade on
Dec 18, 2005 11:27 AM PST
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LOL. Awesome, dude.
Great nightmare. Hopefully, there'll be a contract done through his arb years-- I'm still wary about Bradley (thawing greatly towards him, though, after his KNBR call), but I dislike arbitration even more.
by Kyli on
Dec 18, 2005 11:32 AM PST
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I think it's a terrible system--
by Nico on
Dec 18, 2005 11:35 AM PST
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But if you were subject to this
It is, after all, a process between you and the club. As in a court of law, you may send your representative to do battle, as may the club - but you do have a constitutional right to hear the proceedings.
by salb918 on
Dec 18, 2005 11:52 AM PST
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I think it's fine
by Nico on
Dec 18, 2005 12:02 PM PST
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Agreed, it's a barbaric
by A'sfansince1970 on
Dec 18, 2005 11:50 AM PST
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Lets all chant...
Oh wait, that was for the 49ers blog...
I meant...
BRAD-LEY! BRAD-LEY!
Yeah, thats the ticket.
Has spring training started yet? God, I'm sick of football.
by ChickenStanley on
Dec 18, 2005 2:03 PM PST
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Ahah!!! The Cruz treatment!!!
by saint on
Dec 19, 2005 9:27 AM PST
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Big difference between
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Dec 20, 2005 12:30 PM PST
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