Moneybutt: Quantitative Ass Rating
Okay, this is I believe simultaneously the most brilliant and most moronic thing I have ever accomplished.
Moneyball is all about quantifying the unquantified, right?
So what is the biggest remaining question in baseball? Right, how to rate people's butts. I have written a little program that allows people to rank the attractiveness of players in head-to-head competition. The results are tabulated and each player gets a power rating depending on the quality of the competition they beat. If enough people rate the players, we'll know who the true hottest player is.
I'd like your help collecting data. Please go to The Ass Smackdown Site and vote on a few showdowns. Vote as much as you like. The results are updated instantly.
Also, if you believe (1) there should be a better small picture for a contestant, or if (2) someone new should be thrown into the mix, then provide the URL to a picture that you prefer in the comments thread. I'll add them to the pool when I get around to it...
Don't get mad at me if my program messes up and loses your votes. There might still be some bugs to shake out.
Update [2005-10-7 22:10:8 by Apricot]: Thanks for the HUGE response. I'm going to take the contest down at midnight (Friday night), so get your last votes in tonight. If you have ideas for a future Smackdown, leave them in the comment thread.
Update [2005-10-8 1:22:55 by Apricot]: Thanks again. I closed the vote, and have now put up a FINALS RUNOFF between the Top 10. Please check out that vote at http://www.athleticsnation.com/story/2005/10/8/12116/6781
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this is amazing
i would have kept going all night but i got krod vs bonds and i x'd out. i didn't want to give either of them a win. hahaha
My bizarro version
Awesome job, Apricot.
my first one
recommended
question: why is zito (currently 36-9) one spot behind jaypay (currently 21-20). is it a BCS strength of schedule thing?
you mean
This is pretty awesome; I have to say I like it 100 times more than baby winexp (sp?).
Question--Are we supposed to factor in our previous opinions about which players were the most attractive, or rather are we supposed to react solely to the picture shown? I did the latter, so while I wouldn't necessarily say that Godzilla is better-looking than K-Rod, I thought Godzilla looked sort of cuddly in the picture and voted for him (keeping K-Rod's losing streak alive). Also I voted for Haren over Zito despite previous opinion to the contrary--that picture of Zito is priceless, but I wouldn't call it attractive. I wouldn't want you to replace it ... maybe as people send you additional pictures you could have them supplement rather than replace the old ones, so that there would be a montage of each figure on each side of the screen.
Awesome job, Apricot! Billy Beane and Michael Lewis are somewhere smiling with approval, I think.
thanks
You can use any criteria you want. Free market baby! Where's Lowcountry Joe when you need him?
I guess there could be a montage... I was thinking of cycling pictures in and out.
Do you wake in the morning and think
flaw in the program
Oh... and the pics...


Hopefully someone can come up with better pics. Sorry, but in a rush...
by baseballnut020 on Oct 7, 2005 5:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I was wondering
update
Speaking of which, I added Jennifer's people and photos. Thanks!!
xbox: yes, it's a BCS/chess ELO thing. There's a link on the page to the ranking site. Basically, a backgammon site ranks players and gives more points to those who beat higher ranked players. It is supposed to be calibrated so that if Harden has 1600, Swish has 1550 and Macha has 1500, then since the differences are the same, Harden has the same chance of beating Swish as Swish has of beating Macha. I could just put winning percentage, but I thought it was funnier to use a hardcore rating system.
ps. Y'all are crazy. In the time it took me to write this comment, the system registered about a hundred more votes. I'm glad I put in file locking... I should have put a banner ad on that page. Ho ho.
Seriously...
I don't think I'm going to get anything accomplished today.
I love how...
...Godzilla is ahead of Vlad, K-Rod, Manson and Bonds (in that order)... LOL
And you should add Mr. Under-Everyone's-Radar... ;)
thanks
I'm going out for a couple of hours. Please don't break my server. I note with pride and, frankly, fear, that I'm getting about a hundred votes a minute. And it's not even 9am PST...
Others
Banjo Man
Joe Morgan
Bill King (who?)
Adam
Anthony Recker
Joe Blanton
Hatte
Banjo Man!
(oh, and like Pugs and Manson are players? LOL)
I think Jay-Pay has an extremely unfair advantage, btw... he would probably not be doing nearly so well if he had some clothes on. That's okay, though. By all means... keep the picture as it is... ;)
Agreed about JayPay
Thank you!
Others... because this is awesome:
The hottest man alive
Larry Davis... why not?
Travis Buck, Future A'ss
Pom-Pom Dude
I heart Apricot.
Whoa
Thanks a lot Apricot!
Check your email
wow
Thanks for giving me something to do until Spring Training starts! :)
HMMM...
This is speciesist!
hmm
True reason for Macha 'non-renewal'
VORA = -8.6 (Value Over Replacement Ass)most managers don't have the Ass action, but we still have standards.
CSIP = 0.00001 (Camera Shots per Inning Played)
Gah!
Or All-Star love?
Or future manager love?
Or LOOGY love?!!?
Oh yes, and: GREATEST. INVENTION. EVER.
by Nimvee on Oct 7, 2005 11:34 AM PDT reply actions
This is beyond awesomeness!
Jack Wilson...
Is he really hot?
This is SO cool!
How 'bout
Manny being Manny
Derek Jeter
AROD
Jim Mecir
Rickey Henderson
Ray Fosse
Kenny Rogers
by Alien @ Athletics Nation on Oct 7, 2005 12:19 PM PDT reply actions
LINKS!
Cliff Penninton
Eric Byrnes
Daric Barton
Kevin Melillo
Derek Jeter
A-Rod
Jason Kendall
Marco!
Milhouse
Frank Menechino
Mark Teixeira
Rickey Henderson
Kenny Rogers
Manny Ramirez
David Ortiz
All the photos are of the actual people listed this time. :)
if
by Alien @ Athletics Nation on Oct 7, 2005 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Brilliant!
by the way
Name <tab> URL.
Love the pictures, though.
Thank GOD!
<thud>
Jeff Larish http://www.asuwebdevil.com/images/issues/Psports-Larish.jpg
Mo Vaughn http://images.art.com/images/-/Mo-Vaughn--C10107319.jpeg
Mark Teahan http://ar.news.yahoo.com/050716/ap/idts10507170319.royals_tigers_dts105.jpg
Paul Byrd http://media.canada.com/cp/sports/20050726/s072650a.jpg
Josh Beckett http://mlb.mlb.com/images/2003/10/25/2CsGdkZI.jpg
Albert Pujols http://herbie.mlblogs.com/photos/uncategorized/pujols.jpg
Mariano Rivera http://2000magazine.com/websightsthree/yankeesmagazine/NEWPAGES2/pictures/mariano%20rivera.jpg
Buck Showalter http://images.art.com/images/products/large/10107000/10107692.jpg
Bobby Valentine http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/si_online/QandA/2003/0519/valentine.jpg
Randy Johnson http://www.augustasports.com/images/headlines/082799/randy_johnson__mug_.jpg
Curt Schilling http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Reuters_Photo/2005/04/11/1113248515_3647.jpg
Derek Lowe http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2004/10/31/1099232870_8078.jpg
Joe Torre http://espycollection.shazamm.net/images/photo_joe_torre.jpg
another one for Lowe
Derek Lowe http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/PHO/AAGA040.jpg
more...
Michael Lewis http://themorningnews.org/images/mlewis-1.jpg
John Lackey http://www.ocregister.com/newsimages/sports/2005/03/0319angels.jpg
How about...
Mickey Mouse
Ren
Stimpy
Homer Simpson
OJ Simpson
Vincent Price
John Steinbeck
Telly Savalas
Go find your own pictures. I don't have time for that sh....BOOM!
speaking of Syndrome ...
<barf>
Note to self...
Do not google the word "syndrome" ever again. Must put something with it.
<shudder>
<gasp>
Heed Jennifer's advice when she says not to google syndrome.
uh...
you can now call him ...
boooooo!!!!
we really need
by Alien @ Athletics Nation on Oct 7, 2005 1:52 PM PDT reply actions
Do you have Wash?
more
Lance Berkman http://homepages.ius.edu/KRIGGINS/auJpzDLC.jpg
Grady Sizemore http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/writers/james_quintong/03/30/spring.winners/t1_sizemore_all.jpg
(FYI- football)
Jason Taylor http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/siforwomen/2001/may_june/swimsuit/taylor/taylor_lg-01.jpg
Seriously?
You can have him after Sharon is finished. :)
Bat Flip
johnny d
by Alien @ Athletics Nation on Oct 7, 2005 2:02 PM PDT reply actions
more
Paris:
http://www.sushigallery.com/celeb/images/paris-hilton-x0026.jpg
Anna Benson
http://www.rubyfilmz.com/sitebuilder/images/Anna_Benson_9_-189x151.jpg
Kotsay couple:
http://www.headlightmarketing.com/sdsaturntimes/1630/images/Kotsay-couple.jpg
For me:
http://netsports.baseball.com/images/baseball/mlb/allsport/florida/willis_dontrelle2.jpg
by Alien @ Athletics Nation on Oct 7, 2005 2:05 PM PDT reply actions
hooray for alien!!!!
Dusty
Since their movie comes out today....
http://www.spawn.com/toys/movies/wg6inch/wallace1/images/wg6inch_wallace1_photo_01_lg.jpg
Gromit:
http://www.dodds.net/~harmoney/pics/017.jpg
and some friends from the past...
Feathers McGraw:
http://www.bloogs.com/papino/archives/pics/wallace_gromit2.jpg
Shaun:
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00067Y2HY.03.MZZZZZZZ.jpg
Preston:
http://www.cinema-bio.ch/FILMS/KinoMomes/WallaceGromit/film3_preston.jpg
more
http://sfgate.com/c/pictures/2005/07/25_t/ba_wolff02042_ckh_t.gif
stomper
http://www.crittersbythebay.com/yippee/cr-stomper.jpg
crazy crab
http://www.sfist.com/attachments/sfist_jon/Crab_in_Action.jpg
Jeff Kent
http://static.userland.com/images/jake/DCP02607.jpg
Ray Ratto
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/images/sports/july-dec04/1206sp_ra2.jpg
by Alien @ Athletics Nation on Oct 7, 2005 2:25 PM PDT reply actions
how could you like a team that endorses the crazy
by JJ on Oct 7, 2005 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
this thing is hillarious!!!
Sticking with hot sports people
http://www.informationleafblower.com/blog/archives/mitts.jpg
some notes
- Holy crap you all are insane.
- I've been avoiding the female hotties this round. Maybe next round we can have cute sports couples, since this seems to have been a hit.
- You've all lost your minds. The voting peaked a few minutes ago at 88 votes per MINUTE. It's returned to the slightly less absurd 30-40 votes per minute.
- Some of you have very sweetly sent me actual pictures. However, I can't really host any pictures on my server because it is about to explode from the traffic. If I were serving actual pictures, that would be doom. If you uploaded them somewhere like photobucket, or whatever people use, I might be able to use them.
- I fear you all.
I must misunderstand the methodology
Also, you really need to think about adding some sort of "I cannot in good conscience pick one" button, because every time I'm faced with a Scioscia vs Showalter type decision, I feel sick to my stomach.
yah
As for the nasty choices... well it's more fun that way isn't it?
whoops, should've re-freshed
Now it's organized by %
SAT score
if you're going to have depo
http://media.canada.com/cp/sports/20050714/s071436a.jpg
or david forst:
http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper369/stills/124495p3.jpg
or bill james:
http://www.business.ku.edu/gen/bschool_generated_bin/images/communication_module/redsox_2377.jpg
bobby kielty
http://www.johnwilliams713.com/misc/syndrome.jpg
jeff kent = woody rueter?
ps. You are all still crazy.
yeah
by Alien @ Athletics Nation on Oct 7, 2005 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
here's kent
by Alien @ Athletics Nation on Oct 7, 2005 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
i'm always right
A kind word of advice
Sorry to be a killjoy, since this is probably the best creation since sliced bread, but seeing all the stolen links makes me cringe.
fascist
If that is the case,
agree it's a problem
The main problem is that it's so annoying to have to assemble all the pictures to one place that it's almost not worth the trouble to do it.
The way I rationalize it is that no one picture has received more than 750 hits, most far fewer. Say it's 1000 hits by the time this is done. If you have a 50K picture up, that's 50MB of bandwidth used up. My own website it turns out has 12000MB of bandwidth per month which I pay less than $15/mo for. I don't come close to using that.
So while I agree in principle about leeching, I'm not sure this ass contest has quite the impact one might think, especially if we keep it brief.
But I do think it's worth thinking of longer-term solutions. Like maybe a group photobucket account for AN, since this is a problem in general for pictures in popular threads.
keepin' it "brief," or keepin' it boxer?
Thank you for addressing this :)
The group photobucket account is a good idea, since it's remotely hosted and then everyone can use it :)
More pics?
Jairo Garcia http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a24/jlaff21/jairo3.jpg
Duke of LF http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a24/jlaff21/duke.jpg
Kurt Suzuki http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a24/jlaff21/suzuki2.jpg
R.A. Dickey http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a176/jlaffLMC/RA1.jpg
Joe Kennedy http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a176/jlaffLMC/P8300128.jpg
Mychael Urban http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a176/jlaffLMC/urban2.jpg
Blez http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a176/jlaffLMC/P8062376.jpg
Arthur Rhodes
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a248/jlaff/P7201874.jpg
Kiko Calero http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a248/jlaff/P62116662.jpg
Ron Flores http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a248/jlaff/P62116162.jpg
Awesome game!
I'm enjoying the irony...
maybe next round?
I'd like to try this again some time, but I'm not sure what the pool should be...
Actually, I was thinking (this also answers Melody's issue) that we could have an AN photography contest. People could submit links to their own A's photos (scaled down to some sane amount), and we could run it using this Moneybutt hack. The point wouldn't be to win so much as to get exposure to some of the best pictures of the year taken by ANers.
What do you think?
As long as you rig it so...
by Nimvee on Oct 7, 2005 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
deal
Maybe Moneybutt isn't the best forum for it, but I've thought for a while that we should have a photo contest.
In a sense
by Nimvee on Oct 7, 2005 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh it's on...
I ran away screaming
What happened to your other toy?
[http://www.athleticsnation.com/story/2005/9/5/507/09602]
Thanks for the hint that Yahoo has text-based play-by-play, ...now for a little perl...
by ContrarianBettor on Oct 7, 2005 5:17 PM PDT reply actions
works pretty well
I figured if I ever had time to refine baby winexp to deal with retrosheet data, I would power through the data and make it available somehow, and maybe write a couple of articles about it at Beyond the Boxscore or Hardball Times.
Then life took over.
But given the choice between posting about winexp where maybe 20 people on AN would care about it and doing Diego and ass contests, I get way more positive feedback for the latter two, so since I don't have that much free time for AN...
Ok, Totally Awesome!
A couple of things though...
- How is Mark Ellis Winning over Bobby, when I have not seen Mark at all and I have seen Bobby like 10 times!?
- I thought I was going to die when I had to choose which was worse, Kenny Rogers or Mark Texieria!?
- I thought I was going to die when you made me choose between Mark Mulder and Rich Harden!!
- OH LORD! I have to choose between K-Rod and Rincon? Are you kidding me??!
- OH NO!! Battle of the 20's Mulder vs. Huston! What is a girl to do!?!?
- That pic of Chavey is WAY hot!!
- Randy Johnson vs Charles Manson - Now that's a match up!!
- Ok, I seriously need to stop now!
by BobbyCrosbysGirl on Oct 7, 2005 6:50 PM PDT reply actions
I love it
by LLawbug on Oct 7, 2005 8:33 PM PDT reply actions
need photos help
Bobby Crosby
Mark Kotsay
Huston Street
Justin Duchschererer
Eric Chavez
MARCO!
Rich Harden
Barry Zito
Mark Ellis
Mark Mulder
Can people provide me with links to one nice picture of any of these players that you are hosting yourselves? Best would be to list one line:
Name URL
for each.
I like the Duke one that you're already using...
by Nimvee on Oct 7, 2005 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I can try...
Huston Street http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a248/jlaff/P7101552.jpg
Eric Chavez http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a24/jlaff21/P8142579.jpg
MARCO! http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a24/jlaff21/P8142531.jpg
Rich Harden http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a248/jlaff/TigerGame/RS_P7241974.jpg
Barry Zito http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a248/jlaff/TigerGame/RS_P7241977.jpg
Just a few! Hope this helps!
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/9-19-05/P9190142.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/9-19-05/P9190140.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/P8130218.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/9-25-05/P9250201.jpg
Mark Kotsay -
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/9-25-05/P9250193.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/9-6-05/P9060091.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/9-25-05/P9250195.jpg
Huston Street -
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/P7310203.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/P7300089.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/P7310238.jpg
Justin Duchschererer -
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/9-27-05/P9270150.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/9-27-05/P9270152.jpg
Eric Chavez -
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/9-24-05/P9240040.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/9-3-05/P9030147.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/9-6-05/P9060135.jpg
MARCO! -
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/9-3-05/P9030098.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/9-6-05/P9060137.jpg
Rich Harden -
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/9-25-05/P9250128.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/9-25-05/P9250126.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/9-25-05/P9250250.jpg
Barry Zito -
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/9-24-05/P9240029.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/9-4-05/P9040149.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/9-19-05/P9190146.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/9-19-05/P9190137.jpg
Mark Ellis -
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/9-3-05/P9030144.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/9-3-05/P9030102.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/9-3-05/P9030093.jpg
Mark Mulder -
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/Mulder.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/Mulder2.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/Mulder3.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/Blondi2550/Baseball/Mine/Mulder4.jpg
Let me know if you need any more, I have a ton! (as if you couldn't tell that!)
by BobbyCrosbysGirl on Oct 7, 2005 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
A few NL hotties...
A few more to add to the list...admittedly a bit weighted towards the Padres:
by sdgirl on Oct 7, 2005 9:18 PM PDT reply actions
I'll keep these around for the next open round...
But tomorrow I do want to do a quick run-off round-robin between the ten I listed above to settle the question of who is the A's Ass Master. Margaret Cho will host the awards ceremony.
You'd better!
by LD on Oct 8, 2005 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions

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