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Milton Bradley Designated for Assignment

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OAKLAND, Calif. – The Oakland Athletics announced today the club has designated outfielder Milton Bradley for assignment and has selected infielder Kevin Melillo from Triple-A Sacramento.

Bradley is batting .292 with two home runs and seven RBI in 19 games this season. He had three stints on the disabled list due to various injuries. He was most recently placed on the 15-day disabled list retroactive to June 3 with a strained right calf and was activated for Wednesday’s game against Cincinnati. Bradley had five stints on the DL in his two seasons with the A’s. He missed 51 games due to injury this season, 59 last year, 85 in 2005 and 61 in 2003.

Originally selected in the fifth round of the 2004 First-Year Player Draft, the 25-year old Melillo was batting .267 with 21 doubles, six triples, seven home runs and 40 RBI in 67 games for Sacramento this season, seeing all of his action at second base. He also had a .465 slugging percentage and a .368 on-base percentage.

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WTF?
"San Jose A's of Fremont" validates the Halo's stoopid name

by ArakSOT on Jun 21, 2007 9:41 AM PDT reply actions  

Whaaaaaaaa
The game represents... the checkered journey of life. - Milton Bradley

by mikeA on Jun 21, 2007 9:41 AM PDT reply actions  

link?

by Alien @ Athletics Nation on Jun 21, 2007 9:42 AM PDT reply actions  

OaklandA23

works for the A's I think.

The game represents... the checkered journey of life. - Milton Bradley

by mikeA on Jun 21, 2007 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I would assume this is a joke coming from anyone else, but OaklandA23 has consistently posted press releases just before they showed up on the official site.

So I have to echo ArakSOT's WTF?

What stank flatulist.

by andeux on Jun 21, 2007 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I heard this on MLB radio

6 minutes before he posted it... check my posting in the other thread on the main page, but I don't think it appeared online anywhere so he definitely has immediate access to press releases.

Flatten Your Thirds.

by LawDaddy on Jun 21, 2007 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you, OaklandA23

and the whole organization for having respect for this site and the fans for posting team press releases on AN as well as the mainstream sites.

"The problems in the world today are so enormous they cannot be solved with the level of thinking that created them."- A. Einstein

by The Pilots Dared Me To Die on Jun 21, 2007 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

That explains...

...why he threw two chairs down the stairs on his way out of the clubhouse yesterday.

"Should I Stay or Should I Go???"

by tonyarmas50 on Jun 21, 2007 9:43 AM PDT reply actions  

wow, must have gotten hurt again
when he started limping.

I can see it from Billy's eyes - why keep this guy on the 40-man when he'll be gone at the end of the year and we need the room to protect our young players.

Bravo for having the balls to do it.

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 9:47 AM PDT reply actions  

either that

or he did something to wear out his welcome

by Alien @ Athletics Nation on Jun 21, 2007 9:48 AM PDT reply actions  

If you can't DFA a player who's on the DL

then the A's probably felt they had to cut bait.

"The worst day on a ball field is better than the best day in any office." - David Wright

by kkdaz on Jun 21, 2007 9:49 AM PDT reply actions  

In a hurry

that is.

"The worst day on a ball field is better than the best day in any office." - David Wright

by kkdaz on Jun 21, 2007 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here's something from todays CC Times...

Bradley back

Milton Bradley was activated from the 15-day disabled list and started in right field after being sidelined since June 2 with a strained right calf. The A's optioned infielder J.J. Furmaniak to Triple-A Sacramento to make room for Bradley on the 25-man roster.

Bradley went 0-for-3 with a walk. He took a called third strike in his final at-bat and appeared to have some heated words for home plate umpire Tim Timmons until Geren came out to pick up the discussion.
Bradley was still upset about something as he left the clubhouse after the game. As he climbed the stairs just outside the clubhouse, Bradley threw a couple of plastic chairs down the stairs and shouted expletives. Asked about the incident, general manager Billy Beane said he and Bradley had a discussion but described it as a "private thing."

"He wasn't that upset when he left (the meeting)," Beane said. "You just never know. We'll check on him (today)."

Bradley wasn't available for comment.

"Should I Stay or Should I Go???"

by tonyarmas50 on Jun 21, 2007 9:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Looks like from that article in the other thread

he flipped out for some reason, and the A's did a Jose Guillen on him.

The game represents... the checkered journey of life. - Milton Bradley

by mikeA on Jun 21, 2007 9:51 AM PDT reply actions  

over a few plastic chairs?

you'd think beane of all people wouldn't mind.
maybe if he also got hurt once again, but if he is finally healthy and able to contribute, i don't get this at all.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 21, 2007 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

well

over something we don't know about.

The game represents... the checkered journey of life. - Milton Bradley

by mikeA on Jun 21, 2007 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow.

this is a sudden, huge move if true.

"The future's like, who cares?" ~Eric Chavez

by rebus on Jun 21, 2007 9:52 AM PDT reply actions  

agreed

unless it's way worse than the reported chair throwing.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 21, 2007 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

who else would you put on waivers

since Chavy got hurt?  Needed to call up someone to play 3B and Murphy and Furm aren't eligible.  Chavez basically cost Milton his job.

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

i thought we (or rather, sal) established

that's not the way it works, and that if chavez goes on the DL, we could call up murphy or jjf?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 21, 2007 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chavez won't go on the DL

That's the problem - need a 3B for a few days

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

scutaro?
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 21, 2007 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, i don't think melillo will be at 3rd
"The future's like, who cares?" ~Eric Chavez

by rebus on Jun 21, 2007 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mel wil be backup 3B
Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Doesn't have the arm.

Scoot will play 3rd, Melillo will cover the middle if needed.

The Kendall Shift: 6 infielders and 2 catchers.

by Ozzz on Jun 21, 2007 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

i'm sure he'll be the new scutaro

with scutaro at 3b if chavy is hurt.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 21, 2007 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

With Crosby's history

I guess Beane wants extra infield insurance.

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

ok

but it still didn't need to be at the expense of Bradley

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

basically

do you risk losing your best outfielder for infield insurance...?

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

or rather

guarantee losing your best outfielder

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Free agency looms...

..and he can't stay on the field for longer than two days.

Though I'd like to see them DL him and let him heal for a change, rather than throw him out there as soon as he can hobble.

The Kendall Shift: 6 infielders and 2 catchers.

by Ozzz on Jun 21, 2007 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

best outfielder?

have you seen him play much this year or last?  wasn't going to be here next year whereas all the other young outfielders have a much better chance to stick.

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

this isn't next year

Stewart's not going to be here in 2008, either.

And no I haven't seen him play all that much, no one has.

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

How much say-so does the player have?

It's well known that Chavez doesn't want to go on the DL, but can he block it in a similar way that a player with a no-trade clause can block a trade?  Not that I'm aware of.

Why can't the team say "Dude, You need to get healthy so we can win, and you're a huge part of that.  You're on the DL to get healty.  Deal with it.".

by UncleLeo on Jun 21, 2007 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

No player's can't block

a DL move.  The team can ask their opinion, but ultimately the decision resides with the club.

by IndianaAsfan on Jun 21, 2007 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I thought.

Sure, you don't want to give a player a bad attitude, but it's the team's ultimate decision, as it should be.

by UncleLeo on Jun 21, 2007 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

The A's had other options

Right now the A's have 13 pitchers on the staff. They could easily have swapped Mellilo for Lewis or Flores, and sent the other one down for Harden. That would have bought an extra few days before Piazza is activated to make some kind of move.

This decision was made about Bradley, not about numbers.

by richwol on Jun 21, 2007 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure

where I mentioned numbers.  I was answering a question about putting a player on the DL>

by IndianaAsfan on Jun 21, 2007 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

at least he can play

whereas if Bradley tweaked that hammy again and was going to need to sit for a few days, I can see Beane going ballistic on him.

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, but

it's not like we're down to our last man, health-wise.  May seem like we are, granted, but...Bradley/Stewart, Kotsay, Swish, Buck, DJ, Cust for OF/DH/1B.  Even Scutaro/Kendall in a pinch...plus, they could call up Piazza at any time.

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't believe it with out a link

and since there is no link, I'm calling shenanigans!

by Zonis on Jun 21, 2007 9:54 AM PDT reply actions  

well i think most of the rest of us

will choose to believe OaklandA23 over anything you have to say on this or any other matter.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 21, 2007 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ouch.
The Kendall Shift: 6 infielders and 2 catchers.

by Ozzz on Jun 21, 2007 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is a fucking disaster.
The game represents... the checkered journey of life. - Milton Bradley

by mikeA on Jun 21, 2007 9:55 AM PDT reply actions  

...poor BBG
"San Jose A's of Fremont" validates the Halo's stoopid name

by ArakSOT on Jun 21, 2007 9:57 AM PDT reply actions  

poor BBG...

what about my poor fantasy team?!

"The future's like, who cares?" ~Eric Chavez

by rebus on Jun 21, 2007 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

HFS!
"Kots went yard. With a pink bat. Stud."

by Jennifer on Jun 21, 2007 9:57 AM PDT reply actions  

high f'ing socks?
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 21, 2007 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

HOLY. FUCKING. SHIT.
"Kots went yard. With a pink bat. Stud."

by Jennifer on Jun 21, 2007 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

HTTP File Server
Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm here...what?

Oh wait, you said HFS...sorry.

"Former Huntsville Star Eric Chavez..."

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jun 21, 2007 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Slusser has no info

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfga...

The game represents... the checkered journey of life. - Milton Bradley

by mikeA on Jun 21, 2007 9:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Line up impact....

Get ready for Cust in left, Buck in right, Swisher at first and Piazza at DH. Big Mike won't catch a game for the A's.  Stewart is the # 4 outfielder.

by Dr Pez on Jun 21, 2007 9:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Stewart better be the 4th OF...

but you never know...

"The future's like, who cares?" ~Eric Chavez

by rebus on Jun 21, 2007 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

MLB Radio saying

some lower team will claim him, then Beane will work out a trade for his contract.

Flatten Your Thirds.

by LawDaddy on Jun 21, 2007 9:58 AM PDT reply actions  

meanwhile we're stuck with shannon stewart?
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 21, 2007 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

less than 10 days i'm guessing
"The future's like, who cares?" ~Eric Chavez

by rebus on Jun 21, 2007 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

right.

i'm really hoping that's the case, that Beane felt prospective deals for Bradley were taking too long and, to speed up the process, designated him.

the meeting between he and Bradley might have been informing him that he was being shopped and could be designated in the process. couldn't have been an easy discussion.

"The future's like, who cares?" ~Eric Chavez

by rebus on Jun 21, 2007 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

think about the trade to oakland

we traded a AA outfielder who most saw as a potential #4/AAAA guy for Bradley AND Perez, back when Perez was a serious prospect.  How much does that say about how he's viewed in the league?  He's worn out his welcome in a few places.  

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ned Coletti...

was clearing house of DePodesta guys, and Milton was the most obvious place to start.  To everyone else that was a steal for us.

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

how'd that work out again?
Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

but why didn't he clear out brad penny
wasn't trading away loduca depo's worst move?
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 21, 2007 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn't that a Big Black song?

"...just a brad penny, I always come back to you... shoulda known you couldn't trust me... as far as you can throw me... Throw Me!"

Too bad Steve Albini's a White Sox fan...

"The problems in the world today are so enormous they cannot be solved with the level of thinking that created them."- A. Einstein

by The Pilots Dared Me To Die on Jun 21, 2007 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whoh

I was just listing to it RIGHT NOW.

Songs About F...ing,
a wall of sound.

by MobiusKlein on Jun 21, 2007 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

notice how similar that link is

to the text of OaklandA23's diary?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 21, 2007 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, I know

Its just that these sort of things get posted all the time, and w/o a link...

by Zonis on Jun 21, 2007 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, but

they don't have a fucking byline.  This was unofficially official.

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not by OaklandA23

Everything s/he has posted has been on the money.

by green star oakland on Jun 21, 2007 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

I'd like to thank OaklandA23 for all the delicious scoop.

"Kots went yard. With a pink bat. Stud."

by Jennifer on Jun 21, 2007 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

ditto.
"The future's like, who cares?" ~Eric Chavez

by rebus on Jun 21, 2007 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bradley won't accept a trip down

Obviously, so...

a trade in the next couple days? It certainly seems that DFA'ing a guy would lessen his trade value. Why not hush up any clubhouse problems and try to get a reasonable return? The guy was hitting .300...

by Alien @ Athletics Nation on Jun 21, 2007 10:00 AM PDT reply actions  

cover up

cc times reported on the clubhouse problems:
http://www.contracostatimes.com/athl...

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 21, 2007 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

swap for Dukes

to maintain at least a minimum level of malcontentedness in the TB lockeroom.  

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

heh

every media outlet would have a field day with that.  Including AN

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

oh gosh...

If Billy's getting rid of Bradley because of his attitude, then so be it...

However, if he's getting rid of Bradley because of his hamstrings, then that shows that he's still okay with attitude adjustment reclamation projects, and Dukes has the upside to be a superstar if somebody can just teach him how to behave like a reasonably civilized human being...

Hmm....

"The problems in the world today are so enormous they cannot be solved with the level of thinking that created them."- A. Einstein

by The Pilots Dared Me To Die on Jun 21, 2007 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

So much for a quiet, boring off day

I think that's part of the reason why I follow the A's so closely.  The DRAMA!

What would deem him DFA worthy? Had to have been worse than the Halsey bitch fest.  

Nature's first green is gold...

by prana160 on Jun 21, 2007 10:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Damnit

Beane is going to lie off his ass about it too, and we'll never know what the fuck happened.

The game represents... the checkered journey of life. - Milton Bradley

by mikeA on Jun 21, 2007 10:02 AM PDT reply actions  

so true

and he'll smile the whole time he's doing it.  
"bradley's a great guy.  we all love him, and wish him the best of luck in KC/tampa."

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 21, 2007 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tired act.
The Kendall Shift: 6 infielders and 2 catchers.

by Ozzz on Jun 21, 2007 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

not knowing will kill me
"San Jose A's of Fremont" validates the Halo's stoopid name

by ArakSOT on Jun 21, 2007 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

well...

i think it will probably get out, actually.

  1. it seems to have been pretty public.  beane might not say, but some player will talk.
  1. the reporters may already know (cc times story) and just not have reported the whole thing yet (assuming it's worse than just the chair throwing).
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 21, 2007 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Call me a dummy, but...

What does "Designate for assignment" mean anyways?  That basically he's been released???

"Should I Stay or Should I Go???"

by tonyarmas50 on Jun 21, 2007 10:04 AM PDT reply actions  

from the wikiworld:

Designated for assignment is a contractual term used in Major League Baseball. When a player is designated for assignment, he is immediately removed from the club's 40-man roster. This gives the club 10 days to decide what to do with the player while freeing up a roster spot for another transaction, if needed. After designating a player for assignment, the club must make one of the following contractual moves.

those 3 moves: place him on waivers, trade him, or release him.

"The future's like, who cares?" ~Eric Chavez

by rebus on Jun 21, 2007 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

they're going to turn him into a woman

No, wait -- my bad. I'm thinking of "Designated for reassignment."

Shit! Kendall's catching. ~grover @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 21, 2007 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

They're going to set him up with Flava Flav.

No, wait, that'd be Flava of DFA.

The Kendall Shift: 6 infielders and 2 catchers.

by Ozzz on Jun 21, 2007 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Will you miss him?

He had a great playoff series for us last year, but other than that, he's been pretty worthless.  Would you rather have Ethier back now?

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 10:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Byrnes
Flatten Your Thirds.

by LawDaddy on Jun 21, 2007 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha!

Haven't you seen the outfield wall in Arizona since he joined them?

The Kendall Shift: 6 infielders and 2 catchers.

by Ozzz on Jun 21, 2007 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL!

He was a kick when he was here in Sac.  We get a little more access to the players here, and was absolutely a great guy to talk to.  I wish him well where ever he destroys walls.

Flatten Your Thirds.

by LawDaddy on Jun 21, 2007 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

OK

Rickey

Flatten Your Thirds.

by LawDaddy on Jun 21, 2007 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

you miss

the <120 games he played in a year and a half?  His numbers weren't particularly good or bad, but he'll be on his 5th team soon, which is generally a bad sign when you possess his skill set.</p>

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

His numbers were good.

Do you want to DFA Harden? He plays even less.

My last sig was about Doyle.

by mikeA on Jun 21, 2007 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

if we're going to DFA injury prone players

we'd have no team left.  well, jason kendall.  it's always the dude with the .400 ops that manages to stay healthy.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 21, 2007 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

just kidding

Rickey says Rickey is always ready

Flatten Your Thirds.

by LawDaddy on Jun 21, 2007 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

819 and 818

last year and this...most excting position player on the A's...yeah, I'll miss him

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

i agree he's exciting

I like watching Milton, but I don't get the shock of DFA'ing a player who hasn't stayed healthy his entire career and was probably headed for his 4th DL trip this year.  I'd like to have a healthy Milton on my team as a solid CF, but not what Milton has become.  Would he be DFA'd if we didn't have a serious roster crunch looming?  No.  Would he play 50 games the rest of the season?  No.  

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

there are lots of fringe roster guys...

to choose from.  Milton's a core player when healthy.  

I'd rather see Chavez DFA'ed frankly.

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

that's ludicrous

I agree that DFA'ing Milton is WTF-y, but Chavez would have significant trade value.

Shit! Kendall's catching. ~grover @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 21, 2007 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes, he would

and we could work out a trade once we DFA'ed him

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're off your rocker

Once you DFA a player you can surely work out a trade, but you have 0 leverage. The other team can just say "We don't want to give up what you're asking for and if you don't like it then you can just lose him to the waiver wire."

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin, Seattle Mariners

by Helloooo 1st on Jun 21, 2007 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but...

...I'm not convinced Chavez is doing the team any great favors by doing that.  Sure, they still get his defense, and that's no small thing, but maybe it would be better to bite the bullet now and get him healthy so he can be all that much more effective on both defense AND offense later when it's "crunch time".

by UncleLeo on Jun 21, 2007 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Type of injury?

Just thinking out loud, but for Chavez it's his wrists, for Bradley it's his hamstrings.  I would think that would make a difference between sitting and playing through.

"Former Huntsville Star Eric Chavez..."

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jun 21, 2007 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

"when healthy"

That qualifyer is more telling than many people want to think.

by UncleLeo on Jun 21, 2007 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

not really

It doesn't matter if Stewart is healthy or not, because if he's hurt, there is no dropoff...he's the prototypical replacement player.  Bradley is an actual upgrade over who would otherwise be playing

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

and yeah

that's ignoring the point that it actually ISN'T about the roster crunch...

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

well, sure i'd rather have ethier than nothing

but ethier had a .766 ops in the second half last year, .742 this year.  
when healthy bradley has given us a pretty consistent .280/.370/.445, but obviously the key part of that statement is "when healthy"...

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 21, 2007 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

we don't know that we've gotten

nothing for MB yet.

"The future's like, who cares?" ~Eric Chavez

by rebus on Jun 21, 2007 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Worthless?

How many .300 hitters do you see on this team?

The Kendall Shift: 6 infielders and 2 catchers.

by Ozzz on Jun 21, 2007 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

how many runs has he created?
Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

None...

...playing on a regular basis.

by UncleLeo on Jun 21, 2007 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did you forget AN Day? He hit a walk-off HR in

one of the most dramatic come from behind wins of the year. I'll miss that.

Foo-huck. I bet Swish will miss him.

"It is very important while building a toy of chaos to include a light." - margret@live-evil.com

by McFood on Jun 21, 2007 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

Makes sense now.  Damn, I liked Milt.  Swish is probably pissed too.  Who's gonna "Get on the train" with him now?  I guess Scutaro was practicing all this time for a reason, huh?

"Should I Stay or Should I Go???"

by tonyarmas50 on Jun 21, 2007 10:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Et Tu Scutaro?

Could it be Scutaro manipulated the entire situation so that he could replace Milton in the Swisher/Bradley homerun celebration?

by whyareyou on Jun 21, 2007 10:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Can DFA-ing be used

simply to clear a roster space for 10 days, at the end of which the DFA-ed player is put back on the roster ?

by green star oakland on Jun 21, 2007 10:14 AM PDT reply actions  

No

has to be put on waivers first, and he won't clear waivers.

My last sig was about Doyle.

by mikeA on Jun 21, 2007 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Milton will clear Waivers

I wouldn't be too sure about that.  I'd could see Milton clearing waivers.  He's injury prone, a head case, and he's a Free Agent in 90 Games.

by Colorado Fan on Jun 21, 2007 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would be shocked

if no team wanted him.

My last sig was about Doyle.

by mikeA on Jun 21, 2007 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

i gotta think some poor AL team

will take a flyer. if not to just spoil Beane.

"The future's like, who cares?" ~Eric Chavez

by rebus on Jun 21, 2007 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

he's owed

like $2MM the rest of the year, so not a free prospect.

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

c'mon

that's like, two Jay Paytons for half the price! (and half the playing time)

"The future's like, who cares?" ~Eric Chavez

by rebus on Jun 21, 2007 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

i don't think so.

i think it's trade, waivers, or outright release.

"The future's like, who cares?" ~Eric Chavez

by rebus on Jun 21, 2007 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

You can have him.

I see this as a grand plan to make room for DOYLE!

The Kendall Shift: 6 infielders and 2 catchers.

by Ozzz on Jun 21, 2007 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

hmm...

if we could just attach Snelling's hamstrings to Bradley's knees, we'd have one hell of an outfielder, and one pile of broken mess to clean up.

"The problems in the world today are so enormous they cannot be solved with the level of thinking that created them."- A. Einstein

by The Pilots Dared Me To Die on Jun 21, 2007 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

DFA the broken mess!

Or trade it, Ruddy Lugo and a cheese sandwich for Pujols!

Aft Yank Sadist

by oblique on Jun 21, 2007 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

ChuckyT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

...is comin' back!

One thing about HRs, ...they don't stop for defenders.

by A s Eh on Jun 21, 2007 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

They'll sell better

than the Langerhans jerseys.

Flatten Your Thirds.

by LawDaddy on Jun 21, 2007 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

The ones with blood stains

will sell well...

Flatten Your Thirds.

by LawDaddy on Jun 21, 2007 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Word!

The photo Barrett clocking P. should greet visitors to some area of Cooperstown!

It's not as if fighting hasn't been part of the game.    I recall reading a story in Baseball Digest, where a catcher was grumbling about the plate umpire's calls of balls and strikes all game long.  A close play at the plate, and the ump called the runner out.  The catcher got back in his crouch, and muttered,

"Figures.  That guy was safe.  You couldn't even get that call right."

At which, the ump threw the catcher out of the game. At which, the catcher wound up and clocked the ump, knocking him out...COLD!!

I don't think the catcher even got a suspension!

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by One won lost won on Jun 21, 2007 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Obvious
Those fans will have 10 days to trade, throw away, or transfer the jersey another team.
I'd like to eat my lunch, but Billy just kicked me out of my office.

by BlameChannel53 on Jun 21, 2007 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

who cares about bradley jerseys

what's going to happen to the bradley bobbleheads?

are they now worthless or will they skyrocket in value?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 21, 2007 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

They're worth less than a Paul Splittorf bobble

now.

"It is very important while building a toy of chaos to include a light." - margret@live-evil.com

by McFood on Jun 21, 2007 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know when you see a documentary on Africa...

..and in some part of the world you've never heard of before, the rebel soldiers are all wearing Nike gear and T-shirts that say "Denver Broncos, 1987 Superbowl Champions" and "XFL 4 Life"?

That.

The Kendall Shift: 6 infielders and 2 catchers.

by Ozzz on Jun 21, 2007 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

heh

I've always wanted to track down a Buffalo Bills Super Bowl champions shirt from any of the years from 1990-1993...I'd definitely trade in a lot of new clothes to the city mission for one of those.

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rotoworld Take

Athletics designated outfielder Milton Bradley for assignment.

Bradley had to have done something to really upset management and/or his teammates. Sure, the club was at least a little frustrated about his frequent injuries, but he was playing pretty well when he was able to take the field, batting .292/.373/.446 in 65 at-bats. Maybe the A's will be able to trade him for some relief help, though he'll have little value left now that the team has to move him.

by Zonis on Jun 21, 2007 10:19 AM PDT reply actions  

I was going to say, doesn't this seriously

decrease his value? I wonder if we can get anything meaningful for him?

by OldhamA on Jun 21, 2007 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

not necessarily.

if BB has a couple of deals to choose from, it may just speed up the rate at which things happen.

"The future's like, who cares?" ~Eric Chavez

by rebus on Jun 21, 2007 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Melillo

I stated in another thread that i felt like Suzuki has the next couple of weeks to be showcased for a trade. For some reason i think Melillo is too. If he's nto being showcased, then why not just bring Piazza back now as DH, since the glut in the outfield has been reduced by one. Cust can play left. Please trade Dan Johnson!!!

"Imagine all the Hebrews goin dumb"-Tell Me When To Go

by ohad on Jun 21, 2007 10:21 AM PDT reply actions  

Is there a deal to be had with

one of the non cellar teams of the AL?

Here are the ordered standings:

BoSox
LAAngels
Indians/Tigers

the A's would be here.

Seattle Mariners
Minnesota Twins
Toronto Blue Jays
Tampa bay Rays
Baltimore Orioles
ChiSox
Kansas City
Texas

"The future's like, who cares?" ~Eric Chavez

by rebus on Jun 21, 2007 10:22 AM PDT reply actions  

My god man... WHERE ARE THE YANKEES!?
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin, Seattle Mariners

by Helloooo 1st on Jun 21, 2007 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm going to say a little prayer for him

and pat him on the bobblehead when I get home.

I hearted Milton, but this situation reeks of self-destruction; why would Milton be unhappy in Oakland? He's probably just frustrated he can't play, but it must be bothering him to a point where Beane and Co. are seeing major red flags.

"He could run for mayor of Oakland! I hope he never wakes up" -Korach on Cust's GW 3 run HR

by popcornjames on Jun 21, 2007 10:23 AM PDT reply actions  

I was wondering if it maybe had something to do

with his rehab work?  Maybe he wasn't following doctor's orders to come back and stay healthy and Billy called him on it?

Nature's first green is gold...

by prana160 on Jun 21, 2007 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Build Up

I'm sure it was a couple things:

  1. Always being hurt - Not helping team
  1. Not wanting to go to Sacramento to rehab
  1. Delaying his activation until yesterday
  1. Re-Injuring himself?
  1. Losing it yesterday.

I'd be interested to hear what Brad Ziegler had to say about Milton Bradley's presence in Sacramento.  I'm sure he wasn't happy about doing time there, and took it as a slap in the face... and the downward spiral started from that point.

by Colorado Fan on Jun 21, 2007 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm in your boat.

I think he was feeling sensitive about all the outfielders, rushed his rehab (even if Beane was delaying his return on purpose), didn't want to be in Sacto, felt "disrespected" in comparison to guys like Kotsay, Kielty, and especially Buck - Buck was the reason Beane felt he could trade Ethier in the first place, and now that he's on the team, contributing regularly, and proving himself constantly that he's ready for the big leagues, I think Milton felt he had to force the situation, and nobody forces any situation on Billy Beane! He's too savvy to let players push him around.

I see DJ and Bradley getting traded, a la T-Long and Ramon Hernandez not too long ago; a liability plus a sacrifice, let's see who we get.

"He could run for mayor of Oakland! I hope he never wakes up" -Korach on Cust's GW 3 run HR

by popcornjames on Jun 21, 2007 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't they lose every game he played in?

0-7 or something like that?

"I see Milton Bradley being the Oaktown player that breaks out this year." breaks out... breaks out of where? jail?

by gdub171 on Jun 21, 2007 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brad is way too discreet

to tell us anything juicy about Milton Bradley.

He's real open with friendly chatty stuff and what life is like as a baseball player -- and that's great to read -- but when has he ever dished dirt on anyone? Never that I remember. Whenever he's invited to, he politely dodges the question. He's just not that kind of guy.

"...but we're also always open to hearing about other sandwiches if it can make our lunch better." -- Nico, channeling Billy Beane

by iglew on Jun 21, 2007 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's a good thing.
Yep, I totally agree.  Wouldn't hurt to ask, though.

by Colorado Fan on Jun 22, 2007 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

The man's nice enough to give us a glimpse

of his life as a ballplayer... We shouldn't be asking him to smacktalk, too.  That's what we're here for!

"The problems in the world today are so enormous they cannot be solved with the level of thinking that created them."- A. Einstein

by The Pilots Dared Me To Die on Jun 22, 2007 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I grew to like Bradley...

...I really did, but I don't mind this move at all.  For all the talk of how well he plays and how well he was hitting... when does he really do this?  It's not often enough to justify his presence on the roster, IMHO.  If you're truly concerned with winning, at some point you have to put the best team on the field, and Bradley wasn't there often enough, and his entire history indicates that he probably never will be.

by UncleLeo on Jun 21, 2007 10:23 AM PDT reply actions  

I will ask you this too:

Should we DFA Harden?

My last sig was about Doyle.

by mikeA on Jun 21, 2007 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm in favor of trading him

not the same thing at all.

My last sig was about Doyle.

by mikeA on Jun 21, 2007 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well there's obviously something we don't know.

Which has taken it from a trade situation to a DFA situation. They're not really comparable.

by OldhamA on Jun 21, 2007 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Probably wise to follow the Brad Lidge rule:

No matter what, never trade away stuff that nasty.

The Kendall Shift: 6 infielders and 2 catchers.

by Ozzz on Jun 21, 2007 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great

Tag line

One thing about HRs, ...they don't stop for defenders.

by A s Eh on Jun 21, 2007 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since when are these things linear?

They're not.  Individual circumstances.

But, in answer to what I believe is the intent of your question... should the A's get rid of Harden?... I wouldn't DFA him, but I'd seriously entertain trade offers, yes.

Harden still has serious potential trade value, partly just because he's a pitcher.  Bradley I would think has some, but not as much as Harden would.

by UncleLeo on Jun 21, 2007 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well said.

A pitcher with Harden's skill set is a lot harder to find than a hitter with Bradley's skill set.  Comparing the two is apples to oranges.

by IndianaAsfan on Jun 21, 2007 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly my thinking

it's not a linear thing.

What applies to Bradley does not apply to Harden.

Either you do everything for the team, or you're out.  So far, I see Harden saying he'd do anything, carry the ball buckets, etc.  to help.  Bradley, he must have been told to do something, struck out on purpose at Sacto, then bragged about it, whatever.  Anyway, as Beane said when Jose Guillen made noise:

" I traded Mark McGwire.  If Jose Guillen thinks he can (paraphrasing here>) posture and leverage his position by comments and action, he is very mistaken about who he is..."

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by One won lost won on Jun 21, 2007 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

good points

...but it was a rhetorical question

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's not about the roster spot

If the A's just wanted to clear a spot on the 40-man roster for their backup backup infielder Melillo, they could have moved Piazza or Street to the 60-day DL (neither will be back before 60 days are up), or traded/DFA's one of several fungible relievers (Marshall, Lewis, Lugo, even Calero at this point). Any one of those moves would make more sense than dumping an above-average starting position player - even one who is injury prone.

So clearly there's something else going on here, and sadly, the most likely scenario is some kind of clubhouse fight or meltdown.

Regardless, this is very disappointing, as Bradley has been one of my favorite players for the last two years.

What stank flatulist.

by andeux on Jun 21, 2007 10:25 AM PDT reply actions  

iawtp
"The future's like, who cares?" ~Eric Chavez

by rebus on Jun 21, 2007 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

you are correct
My last sig was about Doyle.

by mikeA on Jun 21, 2007 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

going to have to clear multiple spots

in the 25-man in the next few weeks

Piazza
Duke
Harden
Doyle?

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

even if it was about roster spots...

I'd put Piazza on waivers any day before Milton.

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

in an absolute-value sense, yes

Piazza's utterly worthless as a trading chip.

Milton is now.

Shit! Kendall's catching. ~grover @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 21, 2007 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

not just as a trading chip

Piazza has no spot in our lineup right now...not the way I see it, anyway.

Bradley does, or did.

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

We don't know that about Bradley

He may be hiding a serious injury.

Maybe his discussion was about what was intimated on the radio broadcast, that Bradley still did not look 100%.  Perhaps Beane told him he had to get healthy and stay at Sacto until he did??

We just don't know.

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by One won lost won on Jun 21, 2007 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agree completely with andeux

This has nothing to do with a temporary roster crunch or Chavez' owies.

I don't really think it has too much to do with frustration over his injuries, either. Remember, last year was very much like this year: the first half of the season saw multiple trips to the DL, and Bradley didn't play that well when he did play. But after the all-star break he stayed healthy for months and was a damn big part of the A's second-half run and was pretty much our whole offense against Detroit in the ALCS. It's hard to be patient when a guy is repeatedly hurt week in and week out, but the A's are rational enough to know that there's a whooooole lotta season left, and no real reason to think Bradley couldn't have a long stretch of high production.

So I agree. Something must have happened... I wondered why he was on the A's bench the past few days rather than continuing to get at-bats in Sacto, when he so clearly hadn't got his timing back yet. I wonder if that plays into the story somehow.

I liked Milton as a player, and rooted hard for him to overcome his problems and succeed as a person, and it seemed from a number of interviews that he was clearly more capable of thoughtful reflection and self-criticism than most guys. So this situation makes me sad. Damn it.

by Faust on Jun 21, 2007 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

it came down to resource management

Larry Davis had run out of Milton's blood type.

Shit! Kendall's catching. ~grover @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 21, 2007 10:32 AM PDT reply actions  

hmm

LArry DAvis. LAw DAddy.

"San Jose A's of Fremont" validates the Halo's stoopid name

by ArakSOT on Jun 21, 2007 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

My wife

just checked me into the Larry Davis Picture Posters clinic.  I'm saved now.

Flatten Your Thirds.

by LawDaddy on Jun 21, 2007 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think we'll all reserve judgment

on the "saved now" part!

I suspect it is only a dodge, to do more dirty work!

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by One won lost won on Jun 21, 2007 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

however

he doesn't take the best self-portraits

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

From the wiki

Once a player is designated for assignment, he may be traded. Some teams have been known to designate players for assignment to increase interest in the player, especially among teams that are not at the top of the list for waivers. For example, in May 2006, Rangers reliever Brian Shouse was designated for assignment, and was traded to the Milwaukee Brewers 4 days later. The Brewers could have waited until Shouse was placed on waivers so they would not have had to give up a player in a trade, but according to the waiver rules, the other 13 AL teams would have preference in claiming him.

I don't understand this. If you wanted to trade for a player, couldn't you do it directly without them having to pass waivers (pre July 31st obviously) ?

by green star oakland on Jun 21, 2007 10:33 AM PDT reply actions  

Shouse

would have been available to all AL teams first, then NL teams in reverse order of the standings.

"The future's like, who cares?" ~Eric Chavez

by rebus on Jun 21, 2007 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Understood,

if he had been put on waivers. But why couldn't the Brewers just have traded for him directly before he hit the waiver wire ? How did DFA-ing help ?

by green star oakland on Jun 21, 2007 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

by effectively advertising a public sale

you increase competition. it may decrease value, but it's an educated guess on expected returns.

"The future's like, who cares?" ~Eric Chavez

by rebus on Jun 21, 2007 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

The DFA-ing might have

just been the Rangers need to open a spot on the 40-man roster.  As others have said, it also means that if you have interest in the player, you better speak up now, or forever hold your peace.

Similar to what the Jays did with Hillenbrand last year, and ended up getting a good reliever from the Giants for him.

Which all basically means that if we want to get a good return for Bradley now that he has been DFA'd, we better hope Sabean is interested.

by AsFanInLA on Jun 21, 2007 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

but not once a player has been designated for assignment and thus exposed to waiver claims made by intraleague teams with worse records than the team making the DFA decision

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

You shouldn't

Buck's emergence made this move easier to make.

by IndianaAsfan on Jun 21, 2007 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

"safety" =

I don't want Milton to come after Trav and strangle him in his sleep... and kill his puppy.

"Kots went yard. With a pink bat. Stud."

by Jennifer on Jun 21, 2007 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Every one knows that

he was bonin beane's wife.. must have just gotten caught. okay i made it up but might as well have fun with it.. I'll miss the guy

by NYC on Jun 21, 2007 10:38 AM PDT reply actions  

unleashed speculation

I understand that Melillo's up to be the new Scutaro of the middle infield only -- but if his arm's not good enough to play 3B, is it really adequate to back up at SS?

I'm thinking Ellis is on his way out via trade, perhaps packaged with Bradley.

Shit! Kendall's catching. ~grover @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 21, 2007 10:39 AM PDT reply actions  

I just semi-answered a ? about DFA rules...

now I ask one...can you add another player to a trade along with the one that has already been designated for assignment?

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ellis ?

Traded this season? I don't see that happening. I would be very surprised. The Bradley thing makes sense. We have a lot of outfield options. But Ellis saves many runs with his great glove. They would be foolish to trade him this season. We need every game to get that wildcard and to be johnny on the spot if the Halos falter.

by IM4Oakgal on Jun 21, 2007 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

No Way Ellis get Traded.

Ellis is the anti-Milton.  Plus, he's one of the only guys who has never let Beane down.

by Colorado Fan on Jun 21, 2007 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol, i need to make that line my sig.

do you have a link to that quote?

"The future's like, who cares?" ~Eric Chavez

by rebus on Jun 21, 2007 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly-Ellis= gold

Since his child was born, he's been unequalled in batting and playing 2nd in the entire MLs.

Why would we want to mess up our club, just because the Dodgers did via Beane's protege?

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by One won lost won on Jun 21, 2007 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

plus he can turn a rabid unicorn on you
Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

really? seems like a rash decision.

it would have to be a f'n A trade for this season and the long term... and I can't even imagine what the deal would be or what hole it would fill.

"The future's like, who cares?" ~Eric Chavez

by rebus on Jun 21, 2007 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

infield shortage with Chavez's injury=trade Ellis. Makes sense.

My last sig was about Doyle.

by mikeA on Jun 21, 2007 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

infielder coming back in trade
Shit! Kendall's catching. ~grover @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 21, 2007 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's not such a bad idea

but it's a strange inference.

My last sig was about Doyle.

by mikeA on Jun 21, 2007 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

sorry again, grover
That's not such a bad idea ... but it's a strange inference. ~ mikeA @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 21, 2007 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

nooooo!

i don't even want to think about ellis being gone too!

by gotgreen on Jun 21, 2007 10:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Good luck to Milton

He furnished us with a lot of good memories..but let's face it ..his injury status and salary make him a liability. He will get picked up by another team I am sure. Thanks Gameboy.

by IM4Oakgal on Jun 21, 2007 10:41 AM PDT reply actions  

so basically bradley's done in oakland?

from what the rules seem to say, he's either going to be traded, placed thru waivers, or released. if he somehow clears waivers (which seems very unlikely), we still can't take him back, right? dammit...something better be seriously screwed up (clubhouse issue, injury issue) or we have a pretty reasonable trade in place for us to dump milton like this.

"welcome to ME, motherf*^*er!" - tim hudson

by guy incognito on Jun 21, 2007 10:41 AM PDT reply actions  

so there's a chance he stays an A?

maybe (i hope) billy somehow knows milton will clear waivers, needs more rehab time, and knows we need the roster spot with chavez possibly being injured? if reports had him limping during the game, he's clearly not 100% - which begs the question, why in god's name do we keep bringing him back up before he's healthy???

"welcome to ME, motherf*^*er!" - tim hudson

by guy incognito on Jun 21, 2007 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Reports on TV and radio

detected him limping.  Said he didn't look 100%.  Also said he was upset at having to go to Sacto instead of instant re-activation.

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by One won lost won on Jun 21, 2007 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

The being upset at

having to rehab points to the A's wanting to ensure he was 100%.  It also says Milton felt he was 100%, and the A's were NOT rushing him back.
The fact that he was limping doesn't mean he wasn't 100% either.  The guy is fragile.  

by IndianaAsfan on Jun 21, 2007 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

DFA-minors

I believe he can refuse the assignment to the minors and become a free agent.

by David Fucillo on Jun 21, 2007 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, with 5+ years in the bigs

but if he did refuse the assignment the team can still choose to keep him on the roster instead, I believe.

by green star oakland on Jun 21, 2007 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

something tells me

that, even if he did clear waivers, Bradley isn't the type of guy to accept a minor league assignment, even grudgingly like Kielty.

"The future's like, who cares?" ~Eric Chavez

by rebus on Jun 21, 2007 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nope.

Bradley is gone.  They would have released friggin' Lugo if this was the case.

by Colorado Fan on Jun 21, 2007 10:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Trade Partner

If the Angels could get Juan Rivera & Maicer Izturis for Jose Guillen, who could Billy get from Bowden & the Washington Nationals?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6531863/

They had more time than Billy does, but you never know.  Dmitri Young & Milton Bradley could be a potent linuep in D.C.  Now that would be fun to watch!

by Colorado Fan on Jun 21, 2007 10:52 AM PDT reply actions  

guzman!

j/k.

church!  and laaangerhaaaans!

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 21, 2007 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

WOW

I'm completely saddened by this!
I had grown to be quite a big Bradley fan, and I believe he grew to be quite a big fan of all of us.  Like he had finally found home here.
I don't know if I will ever understand this one, not completely!

Dammit, I am REALLY going to miss Milton.  I will be wearing him proudly on the next homestand, and then I guess I will hang him up next to my Byrnes jersey.

*Nick Swisher is good. He is home-run-beltin', sideburn-wearin', nonstop-talkin', bear-hug-dispensin', self-proclaimin' good.*

by Swisherfor05ROY on Jun 21, 2007 10:56 AM PDT reply actions  

I reserve my opinion...

until I hear from Mychael Urban.  Isn't he like Bradley's Pedro Gomez?

I didn't even get the chance to showcase my "Islets of Langerhans" bleacher sign...thanks Billy!

by franks a lot on Jun 21, 2007 10:57 AM PDT reply actions  

urban should just re-run the tired act story

word for word.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 21, 2007 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bradley

no longer has Macha around to "enable" him.

What stank flatulist.

by andeux on Jun 21, 2007 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol
My last sig was about Doyle.

by mikeA on Jun 21, 2007 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wish Milton could have stayed on the EL
That's not such a bad idea ... but it's a strange inference. ~ mikeA @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 21, 2007 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

man...

I tried sleeping on the EL train once, and it ain't easy.  I'd spring for a cheap Chicago flophouse before staying on the EL anyday...

"The problems in the world today are so enormous they cannot be solved with the level of thinking that created them."- A. Einstein

by The Pilots Dared Me To Die on Jun 21, 2007 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do not have the words

to express the utter sadness this makes mw feel. I trulyfelt that Milton had found a home in Oakland, despite his injuries.....

Fuck.......I just keep shaking my head over this.

Maybe this is some sort of blessing in disguise for the A's???????

I'll miss ya Milton. Best of luck!

by mrod on Jun 21, 2007 10:59 AM PDT reply actions  

i'm with you

sigh.  no idea wtf just happened, but i don't like it.  i had really come to like bradley.  though, i wouldn't mind a trade (a real trade not a "i HAVE to trade this guy" trade).  i just don't get it.  i'm worried this is a pissing contest between player and GM and the GM has to win that one, so there it is.  i don't like it, but i'm also being emotional about it.

by Eric in Atlanta on Jun 21, 2007 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think it was drugs

guy has a drug problem.. gave him chances to quit.. lied said he was clean, got caught then cut

by NYC on Jun 21, 2007 11:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Interesting premise

fits with the comment by Beane about a "private" conversation.

Ah, the world is an interesting place.  At least I'm not playing "poker" with a million-dollar salary.

...wonder what that is like!??

Rename Fremont, CA, to Philadelphia, CA. All East Bay printing cos. support this idea!

by One won lost won on Jun 21, 2007 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

do you have ANY evidence for this

or are you just making shit up?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 21, 2007 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I said I think

but if that translates to making shit up then yes I totally fucking made the fucking shit out of that shit that got made fucking up out of fucking shit.

by NYC on Jun 21, 2007 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

Milton's the one with the drug problem....

My last sig was about Doyle.

by mikeA on Jun 21, 2007 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

maybe NYC is his dealer?
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 21, 2007 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I get called out for this

and guy who says ellis is next or trade for pujols gets away with it come on people!

by NYC on Jun 21, 2007 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know why...

We could get Luis Pujols easy.

"The problems in the world today are so enormous they cannot be solved with the level of thinking that created them."- A. Einstein

by The Pilots Dared Me To Die on Jun 21, 2007 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Bradley gets DFA'd for exploding

What happens when Pujols does?

He's not going to try to kill you, I'm just going to try to doink you. -Rex Hudler

by JediLeroy on Jun 21, 2007 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

dude

at least you said you were joking in your other post...

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

i'm not joking

that is what i think could be the reason.. roster move doesnt solve it.. throwing 2 plastic chairs doesnt solve it.. drugs would.. any other guesses.. dont give me the urban story either.

by NYC on Jun 21, 2007 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

well

he's had anger management issues through his entire career.  I don't think his tantrums are drug-induced, I think some rumor would've leaked by now.

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

so what was the straw that broke the back?

it definately wasnt 2 plastic chairs. they knew that he had issues they were willing to put up with them.. something catastrophic must have happened

by NYC on Jun 21, 2007 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

we're waiting to (maybe) find out

but for drugs...remember what league this is.  I know you're not referring to steroids, but if you're going to talk to someone about putting down the pipe, it isn't going to be immediately after a game

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

beane hasnt been known to give a reasonable heads

to any players. piazza was like "thats weird, well i think i'm still on the team"
I dont know.. i want to know. spend alot of time on the dl maybe you need to recreate.

by NYC on Jun 21, 2007 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

no, can't deny it was short notice

been known for that since Mike Magnante.  Can't rule out your idea, but it is just complete speculation.  My thought is though, if the A's had zero tolerance for every drug user...the roster would be even more depleted as it has been when we've seen Kendall in left field.

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I never said zero tolerance. i said a drug prblm

since we know nothing.. everything is speculation.. what the hell else would we write about

by NYC on Jun 21, 2007 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

okay..

just to be clear. this was speculating.. definately in the top ten reasons that people get cut. but my first sentence might be confusing.. its just in the realm of the plausible

by NYC on Jun 21, 2007 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

BB will speak

A's vice president and general manager Billy Beane were to discuss the Bradley move in a conference call with reporters at 1 p.m. PT.

link

by gotgreen on Jun 21, 2007 11:16 AM PDT reply actions  

he's going to announce

that Milton had joined Al Qaeda and was plotting to blow up Mt. Davis.  Well, at least that is as accurate as what Beane will actually say.  

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

excuse me mister jub

do you have a link for this?

by NYC on Jun 21, 2007 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

www.dailykos.com
Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

haha

dont you mean www.foxnews.com

by NYC on Jun 21, 2007 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

i think it's

www.sourgrapes.org

"The future's like, who cares?" ~Eric Chavez

by rebus on Jun 21, 2007 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

both filled with crazies

the only real news comes from www.theonion.com

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

now thats a link

your claim is officially backed up

by NYC on Jun 21, 2007 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm shocked, and a little sad. Milton

always being hurt was frustrating, but I really liked him. no more Swisher/Bradley homerun dance. :(

"Very nice day in the Oakland A... Oakland A's? What's this stadium called again?" Nick Swisher on TWIB.

by larrysgurl on Jun 21, 2007 11:18 AM PDT reply actions  

LOL. it won't be the same though. the best

part of that dance was Scutaro doing it with them.

"Very nice day in the Oakland A... Oakland A's? What's this stadium called again?" Nick Swisher on TWIB.

by larrysgurl on Jun 21, 2007 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing

and what's worse is Bradley ending up with the Angels. That would suck! What a way to get back at your former team..

I think religion is a neurological disorder that prevents people from thinking on their own.--B. Maher

by sf drift king on Jun 21, 2007 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

we're going to need...

as many Milton threads as we need game threads for the typical A's-Angels matchup

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 11:21 AM PDT reply actions  

At McCovey Chron

they want him

http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/sto...

"San Jose A's of Fremont" validates the Halo's stoopid name

by ArakSOT on Jun 21, 2007 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

they both like Jeff Kent

so, maybe he could introduce them as a mutual friend

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG THAT is funny!

"Esteban Loaiza and Rich Harden have made as many appearances on the mound this season as Paris Hilton has spent nights in jail." - Blez

by 510inDenver on Jun 21, 2007 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

well

Today is my birthday, so I can't stay on AN and mourn the loss of Milton all day...I'll do a shot in his honor...any suggestions?

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 11:29 AM PDT reply actions  

A Harvey Wallbanger
Flatten Your Thirds.

by LawDaddy on Jun 21, 2007 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Forgot - Happy B-Day

and call ELo, he'll know what to order

Flatten Your Thirds.

by LawDaddy on Jun 21, 2007 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Flaming Moe
"San Jose A's of Fremont" validates the Halo's stoopid name

by ArakSOT on Jun 21, 2007 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you're going to bother with Tussin...

make sure you hit at least the third plateau...

Then you can melt pennies with your mind!

"The problems in the world today are so enormous they cannot be solved with the level of thinking that created them."- A. Einstein

by The Pilots Dared Me To Die on Jun 21, 2007 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

crack vial?
Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

wait that's Dukes
Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

NYC

hack into your account?

by Cutthemullet on Jun 21, 2007 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

ha

seriously, happy bday

if you were born on the solstice, does that make you king of the druids?  

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jun 21, 2007 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Genny Cream Ale

Happy Birthday

What stank flatulist.

by andeux on Jun 21, 2007 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

haha scream ale

havent had that in a while.

by NYC on Jun 21, 2007 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Worst Beer Ever

Well, maybe not, but worse than anyone should drink.

Hi ho.

by danh on Jun 21, 2007 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

worst beer ever=

Red Elephant.

I used to hate Rainier Ale too, until I tried it again and realized that I just had bad taste in beer when I was a teenager.

"The problems in the world today are so enormous they cannot be solved with the level of thinking that created them."- A. Einstein

by The Pilots Dared Me To Die on Jun 22, 2007 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

giants, braves

who else??
there are some teams who could use an outfielder with some pop - problem is, they probably don't trust him to stay on the field either.  just trade him to a team we won't play this year - i have a feeling he'd go wild and hit about 4 bombs and take out both crosby and ellis if we play against him this year.

i must say i am not that surprised here.  milton had great talent but there was obviously some things brewing with his comments the last couple days and he must have gone over the edge of billy just said f it and pulled the trigger anyway.

by Backspin on Jun 21, 2007 11:52 AM PDT reply actions  

STICK WITH YOUR PLAYERS

I don't know exactly what everyone has said about this move, sorry but I'm not going to read all 319 of everyone's entries, but I must say this does coem as a surprise, being that Bradley seemed very happy with the A's. Last year he got along great with former coach Gerald Perry and did not seem to cause havoc in the clubhouse either, unlike his last two stints with the Indians and Dodgers. It doesn't make much sense that the only player who hit well during the 2006 ALCS is no longer with the team. Bradley even had two homers in one of those games. What grinds my gears the most was the situation that they got him in. At the begining of the 2006 season the A's traded young prospect Andre Ethier to Los Angeles for Bradley. At first I was very upset with Billy for trading a jewel in the farm system for a player with lots of baggage. But I turned out to be wrong, as Bradley was able to put the baggage aside and have a decent 2006 season and even better postseason. Ethier has since become a stable force in the Dodger lineup, but hey a trades a trade and you have to give up a little to get a little.
But this was not the case, now Bradley's been designated for assignment and the player the A's got for promising Andre Ethier will soon be gone. I know of his injuries, but since when do you designate someone away because of injuries? If that were the case, Rich Harden, Mark Prior, and Kerry Wood would no longer be with their teams. Bradley was just coming off the DL to and had not chance to prove himself. This was a very foolish thing for the A's to do. When you trade a young promising player like Andre Ethier you could at least STICK WITH YOUR PLAYERS, especially when they are performing like Bradley had for the A's.

"His kind of baggage makes Bradley's look like a Hello Kitty backpack." - Mychael Urban on Sammy Sosa

by Mulderfan on Jun 21, 2007 1:02 PM PDT reply actions  

i REALLY liked having bradley on this team

and i'm sad to see him go but i highly doubt the A's released him just because of injuries. there HAS to be more to this story but we may never know everything.

by gotgreen on Jun 21, 2007 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would have liked having him on the team

if he could just have stayed healthy.

"The problems in the world today are so enormous they cannot be solved with the level of thinking that created them."- A. Einstein

by The Pilots Dared Me To Die on Jun 22, 2007 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well said Mulderfan

I just can't believe "The Gamer" is gone.

*Nick Swisher is good. He is home-run-beltin', sideburn-wearin', nonstop-talkin', bear-hug-dispensin', self-proclaimin' good.*

by Swisherfor05ROY on Jun 21, 2007 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

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