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USA Today checks in with the Big Three.

When Tim Hudson found out about Barry Zito's $126 million deal with the Giants, he sent a text message to his former teammate, playfully calling him "moneybags." When Mark Mulder tracked down Zito, he jokingly asked him for a $1 million loan.

Life is never the same after you sign the most lucrative contract ever for a pitcher.

"We knew what we had over there; we understood we had something special," Hudson says. "We were all really young and had a lot of success early in our careers. I look back now and I think, 'How in the world did we not win a World Series?' "

Hudson also cherishes the time he spent off the field with his fellow rotation stalwarts. They drew considerable female attention, and the team marketed that appeal. Listed as 6-1 but closer to 5-10, Hudson liked to joke about being the short, ugly, married member of the Big Three.

"It makes me laugh," Hudson says. "If you look at me, 'big' is one thing I'm never called."

Mulder is playing catch and has begun a throwing program, but he won't set a timetable for his return. He said having the injury diagnosed came as a relief because pitching had become a mental and physical grind as the speed on his fastball diminished from the 91- to 93-mph range to 86 last season.

"Unfortunately it happened my free agent year, but I'm OK with that," Mulder says. "I look at it as I'm still in the big leagues. I was so tired of pitching terribly because of the injury. I was almost excited to find out what was wrong. Now I feel really good. All that matters is I can put my arm in position to throw pitches correctly."

Star-divide

Zito arrived at Spring Training yesterday.

The 28-year-old Zito will be almost as popular a topic as Bonds this spring.

"Ever since the press conference I've been just wearing my Giants hat around everywhere in L.A., just getting used to it and preparing myself to have it be natural," Zito said. "I would just wear it my car, not going out."

Yuck.

Lost in all the Kennedy/Halsey/Gaudin/Windsor back of the rotation hype is the Hawaiian Punchout, who is doing all he can to be a part of the big league pitching staff.

He's been training with 15 or so other Oakland Athletics players in Phoenix for more than a week before camp opens Saturday.

"Right now, I'm not sure what's going to happen, but I'm just going out there, work as hard as I can," Komine said in a telephone interview. "If there's a spot open, I'm going to do whatever I can to try and earn that spot on the team."

Shameless self-promotion

Non-baseball news:
Dear Tim Hardaway, it is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Poll
Which member of the Big Three do you miss the most?
Hudson
94 votes
Mulder
8 votes
Zito
25 votes
All of them
50 votes
I'm glad they're gone
6 votes

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stupid yahoo sports.....
For the past month yahoo has been saying to come back February 15th for Fantasy Baseball. This morning, they say come back Feb. 16th. :(

Booooo!!!

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Feb 15, 2007 8:53 AM PST reply actions  

Speaking of Yahoo fantasy baseball
Has anyone played in one of their pay/premium leagues and how was it?
I played in one of their free leagues once and it was fun but 4 people just never showed up from day one and at the end of the season people were making ridiculous trades.
"Choosing between Milledge and Gomez is like choosing between Mozart and Beethoven" --NY Mets Message Boards

by apilgrim on Feb 15, 2007 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Nope
I haven't done one of the pay leagues, though I know others who have....

My suggestion: get in on one of the AN leagues this year, because you know we're never too far from the computer. :)

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Feb 15, 2007 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

I really want to play fantasy baseball this year
I have never played before. Does anyone have a link of a good league to join? what is the AN league?
"I Will Not Relent, I Am Driven"... Clutch
Bring Back The Bash!!!

by Shippee33 on Feb 15, 2007 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

yahoo won't open leagues til tomorrow
i think threads will pop up then.
"The future's like, who cares?" ~Eric Chavez

by rebus on Feb 15, 2007 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

what sucks about fantasy baseball:
A's players generally make terrible fantasy players.  The exception is maybe Huston Street.

by rickeyrocks on Feb 15, 2007 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know....
Haren is on the fantasy radar,  Dusch is one of the top 5 for holds(if you use them), Harden yearly causes debates on which round this potential Cy Young should go in due to his injury history and Swisher made quite an impact in fantasy circles last year and looks to again this year.  But yea Street is easily the first  pick from the current A's squad.

by Mabster on Feb 15, 2007 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

and crosby
will stick it to you where the sun don't shine.  with the illusion of getting 30+ hr from your shortstop.
"I'd like to reference a brilliant post from Left Coast Lumber today" - notsellingjeans

by methodrampage on Feb 15, 2007 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha ha
Yup, I had today on my mental calander too, but they changed it to tomorrow a few days ago. Ah well.

by Philip Christy on Feb 15, 2007 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

baseballmogul online
anyone ever try this before?  i have and i think it is way better than fantasy sports... u can actually develop your farm team as well and manage your major league team!
The Not-So-Casual Fan

by rktse on Feb 15, 2007 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

baseballmogul
www.sportsmogul.com

id love to be in a league full of ANers!

The Not-So-Casual Fan

by rktse on Feb 15, 2007 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

*sniff*
those big three days will always be some of my favorite years as an A's fan!

by gotgreen on Feb 15, 2007 9:04 AM PST reply actions  

Can you pass a kleenex?
Huddy mentions always make me a bit weepy.
Kettlecorn! Swishercorn!

by TurnTwo on Feb 15, 2007 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Sorry, Thunderbutt used them all up on ''Lost''
I got tired of my last signature. Quick, somebody inspire me.

by Poppy on Feb 15, 2007 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

OT: So I'm a lightweight
I got all weepy again watching that scene in repeat. Actually, I wasn't even watching it. I was in the next room listening to it. You people must all be golems.

But that jewelry store scene was a personal favorite.

"San Jose A's of Fremont" is a sad sign of the times

by ArakSOT on Feb 15, 2007 9:05 AM PST reply actions  

OMG
last night's episode was one of the best episodes in a looong time!

by gotgreen on Feb 15, 2007 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I have to watch again on tape...
I was so tired last night I started dropping off during the last ten minutes or so...  :\
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by Poppy on Feb 15, 2007 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Holy crap, brotha.
I loved that episode.
"i was not told that this blog would involve math."

by Jennifer on Feb 15, 2007 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

...poor Charlie
We should start a pool. Smokey? Polar Bear? Crazy French chick trap?
"San Jose A's of Fremont" is a sad sign of the times

by ArakSOT on Feb 15, 2007 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Trichinosis?
I got tired of my last signature. Quick, somebody inspire me.

by Poppy on Feb 15, 2007 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

OD!
"San Jose A's of Fremont" is a sad sign of the times

by ArakSOT on Feb 15, 2007 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

good episode
desmond is probably my favorite character, i'm glad he has a bigger role now.

how do i do white text?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Feb 15, 2007 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

white text
<$div style="color: #FFFFFF">TEXT<$/div>

remove the $'s.

by gotgreen on Feb 15, 2007 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

do NOT read this article
if you have not watched last night's episode of lost yet!

E! Online

by gotgreen on Feb 15, 2007 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

WHAT!?!?!
"Monaghan's Hawaii-based love affair with Evie"

Pass the kleenex.

"San Jose A's of Fremont" is a sad sign of the times

by ArakSOT on Feb 15, 2007 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

haha yeah!
the hobbit has been dating "kate" for a while now!

by gotgreen on Feb 15, 2007 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

jebus... keep up, would you?
I got tired of my last signature. Quick, somebody inspire me.

by Poppy on Feb 15, 2007 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Well
So much for feeling bad for Charlie. Now I suspect his demise might well involve a jealous stalker.
"San Jose A's of Fremont" is a sad sign of the times

by ArakSOT on Feb 15, 2007 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

the one thing that didn't make any sense

from this episode, not the 457 things that haven't made sense over the last three years:
so desmond and charlie are a mile from the beach before desmond runs to the beach, swims out and saves claire.
in the alternate reality, charlie somehow gets to the beach (he obviously wouldn't immediately run there b/c he doesn't know claire is drowning at the time), swims out to rescue claire, and drowns in the process.  
desmond says claire doesn't die, so she is then rescued by someone else.
how exactly does claire NOT die?  does she have gills?
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Feb 15, 2007 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

recall that

this was the universes back-up plan for Charlie. Prseumably, if Charlie died from the lightning stroke like he was supposed to, Claire's swim session would have gone unremarkably, or perhaps not have happened at all. I suppose in the original back-up plan where Charlie drowns, he might not have even gone into the jungle with Hurley and might have been on the beach all along. Anybody else could have saved Claire in this scenarion, or she might even have saved herself.

What I want to know is why the jewelry store lady, and apparently only her, knows the big picture. What makes her different?

"San Jose A's of Fremont" is a sad sign of the times

by ArakSOT on Feb 15, 2007 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

How cool was Charlie singing Wonderwall
On the street when Des saw him in the flashback.....

Because maybe, You're gonna be the one who saves me?

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Feb 15, 2007 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

awesome!!
i didn't even think about the lyrics!

by gotgreen on Feb 15, 2007 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Me neither too!
I got tired of my last signature. Quick, somebody inspire me.

by Poppy on Feb 15, 2007 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude.
<head explodes>
"i was not told that this blog would involve math."

by Jennifer on Feb 15, 2007 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of getting all weepy....
oh my.... Grey's tonight. Ugly crying.
"i was not told that this blog would involve math."

by Jennifer on Feb 15, 2007 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I really wanted to
watch it with the lights off so my friends couldn't see me starting to cry. What do you think about next week and the "devastating" conclusion??

by whiteshoes40 on Feb 15, 2007 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

<sob>
I was doing okay until Addison and Sloan rushed in all worried about things. It was nice to see Sloan not acting like a complete ass.

And then

Denny showing up?
...  Blegh. Never liked that story.... but I totally called it.

WARNING

Do you really think they'd kill off Mer?

I know..... SPOILER

.... well, if I remember correctly, two people die, one actually stays dead. That kind of sounds like maybe she (or someone) comes back to life.

END

END

It's going to be interesting to see how everything turns out.

And I did not enjoy Izzie's "I believe" rambling... it just felt like the wrong time.

"i was not told that this blog would involve math."

by Jennifer on Feb 15, 2007 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Well...
No, I don't really think they'd kill off Meredith. The show's named after her, after all. The ending was weird though, all sad, and all of a sudden it's kind of comic, with that bomb guy from way back when, and Denny.

It was hard to watch McDreamy so sad and pathetic looking... and then when Addison saw him sitting in the hallway, and to think how far they'd come-- I think I generally forget that Derek and Addison were ever a couple. I guess this doesn't really need to be in white text, since I know no spoilers...

I can't believe Izzie told off George like that. She needs to learn some timing.

And it's kind of funny (at least to me) that the only things I've been posting on AN lately have to do with Grey's. But hey, it's the offseason, what can I say.

by whiteshoes40 on Feb 15, 2007 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

does anyone know where to find the text of it?
I had a coughing fit during Izzie's speech, so I missed much of what she said to George. Anyone know where it is so I can read the whole thing?
There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Feb 15, 2007 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

AGREE!
I'm glad that Izzie is back to "normal" and feeling good about saving lives and such... but that was NOT a good time to go off on George. WTF I was like wow Meredith could be DYING right now and you are yelling at George for something that has nothing to do with anything? UGH! STOP TALKING!

Other than that I loved the episode haha
Can't wait for next week! WOO!

"I never saw a hooligan I did like. They're like left-handed pitchers, they all have a screw loose somewhere." - The Asphalt Jungle

by drmmerchk on Feb 15, 2007 11:07 PM PST up reply actions  

got coins?
I love the fact that they did an article on new coinage, and went to the casino for quotes....  link
There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Feb 15, 2007 9:18 AM PST reply actions  

And how about those
"First Spouse" coins? What will they do when they get to bachelor president Buchanan?  Surely they won't have the balls to put out a coin with Sen Wm R King on it.
"...but we're also always open to hearing about other sandwiches if it can make our lunch better." -- Nico, channeling Billy Beane

by iglew on Feb 15, 2007 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Holy CRAP, Barry.
"I look forward to exceeding those expectations, and my goal is at one point for people to talk about me and say I'm underpaid."

How the hell would anyone ever consider Barry Zito to be underpaid?  Maybe if he gets an actual fastball (you know, a fast one), racks up complete games and starts OPSing, say, 1.500... while also working on the grounds crew?

I got tired of my last signature. Quick, somebody inspire me.

by Poppy on Feb 15, 2007 9:22 AM PST reply actions  

he's in the NL now
so he also needs to hit lots of home runs. at least two per game.
There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Feb 15, 2007 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

THEN he needs to go out to the cove and retrieve
I got tired of my last signature. Quick, somebody inspire me.

by Poppy on Feb 15, 2007 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

If he manages all those things...
..you just know he's become friends with Bonds.

Or, more aptly, Bonds' supplier.

"Kotsay is 31... Kotsay's back is 127." - Jeepers

by Ozzz on Feb 15, 2007 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Here is what Starks said about his signing, which
he says is the most outrageous. Now I know strikeouts doesn't mean success, but Casey Fossum.

Three most outrageous contracts
1. Giants throw $126 million, over seven years, at Barry Zito -- even though (we hate to break it to them) since his Cy Young season, he owns fewer wins than Jeff Suppan and a worse strikeout ratio than Casey Fossum.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2007/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2763402

by theblackpearl on Feb 15, 2007 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Hawaiian Punchout is a pretty good nickname
But I still think The Ayatollah Komine resonates better.  Plus it helps people learn to pronounce Shane's last name correctly.
"If your athame is a spork, you might be a Discordian."

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Feb 15, 2007 9:37 AM PST reply actions  

How is it pronounced?
I always thought it was koh-me-NAY
"My conclusion is that sportswriters just fucking love food." - Fire Joe Morgan

by JLaff on Feb 15, 2007 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, that's right
Which is closer to the original Ayatollah's kho-MAY-knee than it would be if Shane were known as ko-MINE (the Barbarian).
"If your athame is a spork, you might be a Discordian."

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Feb 15, 2007 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Canary in a Ko-MINE?
Whoops. Wrong DLD.
Astronauts wear diapers during launch and re-entry. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Feb 15, 2007 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

so thats
koh-me-nay  (as in you and me)

or koh-may-nay?  If its the second one it does sound alot like the Ayatollah.

"Choosing between Milledge and Gomez is like choosing between Mozart and Beethoven" --NY Mets Message Boards

by apilgrim on Feb 15, 2007 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

You say po-tay-toe, I say po-tah-toh
Going back to the original Japanese, it would be Koh-me-NEH. It might be pronounced differently in Hawaii, though.

by PositionPlayerProd on Feb 15, 2007 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

too bad we didn't sign ...
... Mark Mullah to a bin(centive)-laden contract ...
Astronauts wear diapers during launch and re-entry. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Feb 15, 2007 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Mulder hates America?
"[Frank's] a big battler. He's the mother of battleships."

-Nick Swisher

by kaweahkaweah on Feb 15, 2007 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

And also helps people learn
to pronounce Khomeini's name incorrectly.
"...but we're also always open to hearing about other sandwiches if it can make our lunch better." -- Nico, channeling Billy Beane

by iglew on Feb 15, 2007 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Does anyone else think Zito looks crappy
in that semi-uniform?
"[Frank's] a big battler. He's the mother of battleships."

-Nick Swisher

by kaweahkaweah on Feb 15, 2007 9:40 AM PST reply actions  

Those slipping shorts...
Maybe he's also auditioning to be the clubhouse plumber.
I got tired of my last signature. Quick, somebody inspire me.

by Poppy on Feb 15, 2007 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes--that's it
it's the whole plumber's crack thing.

Reminds me of a time my brother was working on a construction site and one of his co-workers leaned over, exposing his crack.  Mr brother got a shovel full of sand and dumped it down his crack.  I'm surprised he didn't kill my bro.

"[Frank's] a big battler. He's the mother of battleships."

-Nick Swisher

by kaweahkaweah on Feb 15, 2007 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Tim Hardaway thinks his plumber is trying to
seduce him.
I got tired of my last signature. Quick, somebody inspire me.

by Poppy on Feb 15, 2007 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Probably needs to be snaked.
I got tired of my last signature. Quick, somebody inspire me.

by Poppy on Feb 15, 2007 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

snook?
I got tired of my last signature. Quick, somebody inspire me.

by Poppy on Feb 15, 2007 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

snerk
Astronauts wear diapers during launch and re-entry. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Feb 15, 2007 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Wearing the Giants cap...
...everywhere in L.A.?  Is that really a good idea, Barry?
"So, whatever, Ozzie." -- Nick Swisher

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Feb 15, 2007 9:50 AM PST reply actions  

A good way to get SF fans behind him, tho!
Yes, Billy, "it would be nice to go to Europe for a month and know that your team is in its mid-20s and locked in for the next five or six years."

by LAXile on Feb 15, 2007 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Tim Hudson:
"I look back now and I think, 'How in the world did we not win a World Series?'"

Barfights the night before big games?

Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Feb 15, 2007 10:23 AM PST reply actions  

You know what they say...
Oblablique, oblablaque, life goes on.
"[Frank's] a big battler. He's the mother of battleships."

-Nick Swisher

by kaweahkaweah on Feb 15, 2007 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

That was oblascure.
"Kotsay is 31... Kotsay's back is 127." - Jeepers

by Ozzz on Feb 15, 2007 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Anyone know when the TV schedule is coming out?
I keep checking for the TV schedule and it's not there.  It seems really late this year.

by Dr Pez on Feb 15, 2007 10:37 AM PST reply actions  

Yeah, and you didn't even get to that
exposed pale back
"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King

by batgirl on Feb 15, 2007 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

then I'm like...
the least hot girl ever. :( thanks.
"Dick Cheney sitting down with Fox News is like Mrs. Butterworth sitting down with the Pancake Channel." -Jimmy Kimmel. (TRADE HARDEN FOR KAZMIR IN '07!)

by Christine on Feb 15, 2007 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Your syntax is wrong
Should be:

black shoes + black socks + pale legs != hot

Yeah, I'm a dork...

by RickeySteals on Feb 15, 2007 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Must be soooooo happy
to be out of the horrendous white shoes.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Feb 15, 2007 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey, shut up.
White shoes rule all.
"Kotsay is 31... Kotsay's back is 127." - Jeepers

by Ozzz on Feb 15, 2007 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

A's agree to terms on 1-yr contracts w/ 8 players
Catcher Jeremy Brown; left-handed pitcher Ron Flores; outfielder Ryan Goleski; outfielder Javier Herrera; infielder Dan Johnson; infielder Donnie Murphy; right-handed pitcher Shane Komine; and right-handed pitcher Dan Shafer.

press release

by gotgreen on Feb 15, 2007 10:43 AM PST reply actions  

Zito in Bonds's chair
link
When Barry Zito checked into camp Wednesday, he plopped his gear on the carpet and himself into a chair to sign some documents. It was not his chair, but Barry Bonds'. Told that nobody besides Bonds ever sat in that chair, Zito said, "I probably don't know any better yet."

"Chairs are the product of that which does not sit."

Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Feb 15, 2007 10:47 AM PST reply actions  

Mark Sweeney told him to sit there.
I got tired of my last signature. Quick, somebody inspire me.

by Poppy on Feb 15, 2007 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Tim Hardaway refused to sit there.
Cos sharing seats is all gay n'stuff.
"Kotsay is 31... Kotsay's back is 127." - Jeepers

by Ozzz on Feb 15, 2007 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

He probably should have guessed...
..based on the fact that, as soon as he sat down, he got Cream (TM) all over his pants.

But hey, if you walked into an office and sat down in a seat for a second to sign a document, and someone said, "Hey, Bob sits there. That's Bob's seat, nobody sits there but Bob" wouldn't you just shrug and say, "Bob better learn to deal"?

What sort of asshole doesn't want other people to use his precious seat when he's not around?

Oh yeah - the biggest asshole in ball.

"Kotsay is 31... Kotsay's back is 127." - Jeepers

by Ozzz on Feb 15, 2007 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

sort of related
kind of related to what you were saying there, but when I was working overseas a long time ago. A couple of the French guys bought their own chairs for the office area instead of using the cheapos we had.
Invariably, when we had visitors, they would sit in the "French chairs".
It was kind of funny to watch these French people absolutely livid that people would sit in their chairs.
We would constantly remind them of their 1998 World Cup win to placate them.  
"Choosing between Milledge and Gomez is like choosing between Mozart and Beethoven" --NY Mets Message Boards

by apilgrim on Feb 15, 2007 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Ugh.
My goal in life is to have so much fucking money and so little ambition that I obsess for hours every day about whether someone sat in my seat when I wasn't around.
"Kotsay is 31... Kotsay's back is 127." - Jeepers

by Ozzz on Feb 15, 2007 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Zito should've farted in it
"[Frank's] a big battler. He's the mother of battleships."

-Nick Swisher

by kaweahkaweah on Feb 15, 2007 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Until he got the turtle head.
"Kotsay is 31... Kotsay's back is 127." - Jeepers

by Ozzz on Feb 15, 2007 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes.
Which is different from the spider legs.
"Kotsay is 31... Kotsay's back is 127." - Jeepers

by Ozzz on Feb 15, 2007 10:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Bonds chair
Does anyone have a picture of this chair? Does it have "Barry" written on it? Is it different from any other chair in the club room?

I'm wondering if this is a kind of running joke for the new guys:
"Hey man, thats Barry's urinal" or "Hey don't use that one, thats Barry's vcr/monitor" or "Don't read that one, thats Barry's copy of Plutarch's Lives of the Noble Grecians and Romans" etc.

"Choosing between Milledge and Gomez is like choosing between Mozart and Beethoven" --NY Mets Message Boards

by apilgrim on Feb 15, 2007 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Yea, it is different
He has a huge leather recliner at his locker.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Feb 15, 2007 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

A huge leather recliner at his *five* lockers
I think everyone else has the standard stool.
Kettlecorn! Swishercorn!

by TurnTwo on Feb 15, 2007 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Wait...
They don't want to have to take blood samples to test for HGH, but they're evaluating players' stools now?
I got tired of my last signature. Quick, somebody inspire me.

by Poppy on Feb 15, 2007 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I would hope
that players wouldn't leave stools in the lockers. They don't pay the clubhouse people nearly enough for that.
Kettlecorn! Swishercorn!

by TurnTwo on Feb 15, 2007 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

To be fair...
...one locker is for his baseball gear, the second is for his 'stash', and the other three are for his helmet.

"I'm telling you, that's one huge noggin! It's like Sputnik - spherical, but quite pointy in parts."

"Kotsay is 31... Kotsay's back is 127." - Jeepers

by Ozzz on Feb 15, 2007 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh God, those
new ST caps are horrific.
"The hard... is what makes it great."

by Jjjsixsix on Feb 15, 2007 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

New threads
Any word on whether the MLB BP tops will be different this season? I did notice there's a new line of game cap (not many pictures on minorleagues.com, unfortunately).

The site also listed a 2007 alternate on-field A's cap, so I wonder if that'll be black & green again or a new style.

by PositionPlayerProd on Feb 15, 2007 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I know everyone's getting new caps...
they all have the ear, and they all look that bad... A's one.

There are new BP/ST jerseys too, I think.  IIRC, they have piping, and they also don't look so good.
here's a link for all 30 teams. They look bad, esp. the Mets, Pirates, Tigers, two-tone piping stuff.

"The hard... is what makes it great."

by Jjjsixsix on Feb 15, 2007 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe it's just me,
but it basically looks like a massive extension of the ear.  The ones that are okay are usually the ones that keep the same colour on both sides of the ear, but the ones like the Reds caps above disturb me.
"The hard... is what makes it great."

by Jjjsixsix on Feb 15, 2007 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah...
...thanks for the link.

Squinting at the picture late at night/early in the morning, the new design kinda looks like one's dad's old bowling shirt.

Interesting that some teams have home and road versions. I somehow didn't think that the Yankees wore ST/BP jerseys, though.

by PositionPlayerProd on Feb 16, 2007 2:49 AM PST up reply actions  

It's odd ...
I don't like thinking of Tejada as an Oriole, Rice as a Seahawk/Raider, Richmond as a King ...

But "retired Miami Heat Guard Tim Hardaway," all of a sudden has a really nice ring to it.

by devo on Feb 15, 2007 12:01 PM PST reply actions  

LOL
"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King

by batgirl on Feb 15, 2007 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

He doth protest too much....
He just hates being in the locker room and thinking "Hardaway, damnit, Hardaway!"

by mikeA on Feb 15, 2007 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Joke #2 from elsewhere:
As part of Run TMC (Tim, Mitch, Chris),
posted by williamyard on 2007-02-15 12:23:53 [warn tnr] [respond]  
which also included Mitch Richmond and Chris Mullin, Hardaway never learned to appreciate a big man with good hands who can work the low post.

by mikeA on Feb 15, 2007 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

OH, THANK GOD!!!
I was losing sleep, wondering, worrying.

{weeps copious tears of relief}

I got tired of my last signature. Quick, somebody inspire me.

by Poppy on Feb 15, 2007 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm with you
{weeps co-pious tears of relief}
Kulfi

by Ice Cream on Feb 15, 2007 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Zito's
ergonomic honeymoon has come to an end.

by mikeA on Feb 15, 2007 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

"ergonomic honeymoon"
That conjures up all kinds of strange images.
I got tired of my last signature. Quick, somebody inspire me.

by Poppy on Feb 15, 2007 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

That Komine Photo Looks Like Yabu:
It would not be the first time that someone got confused.

In fact on the A's site they still Have Jason Kendall as Mark Kendall from last year's spring training photos.

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/

by saint @ Athletics Nation on Feb 15, 2007 1:22 PM PST reply actions  

that's really komine
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Feb 15, 2007 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Tim Kawakami on Z's new style
http://www.mercextra.com/blogs/kawakami/2007/02/15/zito-changes-his-pitching-motion-a-yowza-moment-a t-giant-camp/#more-343

Kind of interesting. Z doesn't seem to believe in the whole "ain't broke, don't fix it" thing.

Kettlecorn! Swishercorn!

by TurnTwo on Feb 15, 2007 2:14 PM PST reply actions  

hmm, maybe not
Seems to me, from Kawakami's framing of the issue, that Z recognizes that something is, in fact, broken (as evidenced by his rise in WHIP and drop in K rate), and that this is an attempt to fix it before it impacts his more conventional stats.
Astronauts wear diapers during launch and re-entry. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Feb 15, 2007 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I suppose.
Clearly, I haven't seen it, but Kawakami's description makes the new style seem like a somewhat violent action.(Maybe it's just the word choice of the article.)

I'm not the biggest Zito fan, but I would hate to see pitching's version of an Iron Man get injured by making an ill-advised, and possibly unneccesary, adjustment.

I'd be interested in seeing this hop into the wind-up thing. The image doesn't look good in my imagination.

Kettlecorn! Swishercorn!

by TurnTwo on Feb 15, 2007 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but it's risky
Even minor changes in mechanics can lead to pretty large changes in effectiveness, or, worse for someone whose value is so tied to his durability, an arm injury. Even though Zito says that his old delivery was "all arm" and that he's trying to generate more power from his legs, which you'd expect to reduce injury risk, this is still the kind of thing that should make GM's and coaches nervous.
In the stands the home crowd scatters For the turnstiles

by andeux on Feb 15, 2007 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

oh, i agree entirely with that
There's also the fact that, if Z's new delivery doesn't work well and he puts up (even-)less-than-impressive numbers through May/June, he'll be under immense pressure to switch back midseason, with the attendant risks of going from one extreme to the other -- and then back again, all within a relatively short time frame.

Generally, I give Barry the benefit of the doubt when it comes to his own health/mechanics; but, yes, in the abstract, this whole process is cause for concern.

Astronauts wear diapers during launch and re-entry. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Feb 15, 2007 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

unless, of course ...
... Z has decided to avail himself of his namesake's horse liniment, and (a) he thinks the mechanical change plus the musculature/bulk change will add significant zip to his fastball, and (b) he won't have to worry about nagging muscle strains or extended recovery times.

Z's about the last guy I'd suspect/accuse, but the logic of the situation certainly presents itself ...

Astronauts wear diapers during launch and re-entry. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Feb 15, 2007 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Namesake? You mean...Barry Sweeney?
"[Frank's] a big battler. He's the mother of battleships."

-Nick Swisher

by kaweahkaweah on Feb 15, 2007 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

BULKY namesake
clearly he meant barry white.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Feb 15, 2007 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

big risk
Any type of mechanics change could land him on the DL.

Even if he adds a little zip to his fastball, the negative effect on his curve isnt worth the risk IMO.

This is definetly interesting, can't wait to see how this plays out.

"...we don't score six, seven runs. We score three, four runs and play defense and pitch" - Eric Chavez

by pickinmachine on Feb 15, 2007 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

as long as Z remembers to eat
a balanced breakfast in the morning he'll pitch fine.  that along with attacking the zone and not being to fine with his pitches.
"Length matters, and if anyone tells you otherwise they're just trying to spare your feelings."-green star oakland

by F171615 on Feb 15, 2007 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

when Barry wasn't
Fearless In The Zone, was he Scared In The Zone; and then he'd tell Macha that he's given it all he's got and it's time to hand it over to the bullpen while he SITZ?
"Length matters, and if anyone tells you otherwise they're just trying to spare your feelings."-green star oakland

by F171615 on Feb 15, 2007 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Hank Schulman weighs in
Here's the Chron beat writer's description:

In Oakland, Zito had a very controlled, upright delivery. When he threw Thursday, he started with a little crouch, as if leaning on the back of a chair. As he turned to begin his windup he reared backward, the most radical change. Then, he took a longer stride toward the plate.

The idea is to generate more thrust with his legs and less with his arm, which not only should preserve the arm and allow him to throw more innings, but also create later and more powerful movement on his pitches, including the fastball and curveball.

"I just felt constricted, really, the last few years, like I was throwing all arm," Zito said, "so it's about using the core of your body, the center of your mass, instead of your arm."

Anyone else reminded of a left-handed Huddy delivery?

Astronauts wear diapers during launch and re-entry. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Feb 15, 2007 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Z's new pitching coach is not happy
Zito has a longer stride with his new delivery, and the Giants don't seem pleased about the changes he's made. "That'll wear him down. He's going to over-stride," pitching coach Dave Righetti said. "It's going to be tough on him. He's a good athlete and he got himself in shape for it. Maybe it's all tied in together and he felt he had to do something. To me, it'll be about making his pitches. If he loses the curveball, which he could because he'll be throwing from a different angle now -- we'll see how sore his groin is tomorrow."

link

by gotgreen on Feb 15, 2007 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

panic time for giants fans
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Feb 15, 2007 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

who cares about zito's delivery
"I'm wondering how much of the new Zito delivery was caused by his oft-cited hittability the last few years-and the infamous WHIP (walks + hits/innings pitched) that stat gurus (and me) believe is the most important and telling number in baseball."

the biggest news here is that WHIP is the most important and telling number in baseball.
who are these stat gurus?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Feb 15, 2007 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

The $126 million experimental delivery
He's starting his experiment after signing that $126 million guaranteed contract, instead of experimenting before becoming a free agent -- guess Zito isn't as "flaky" as people say.

By the way, Z, if you're gonna sit in that big leather chair, be careful for any syringe needles that might have been left in there...

MJB

by MJB on Feb 15, 2007 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Flaky, No.
Selfish...Yes.  Irresponsible...I think so.

He would not even consider making these changes in the final year of a contract.  He knows it would be too risky.

Have fun, Giants!

by Colorado Fan on Feb 15, 2007 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Much ado about nothing.
It's not like he forgot his old delivery.  Maybe this one will work better, maybe it won't.  I think it's pretty cool he still wants to get better.
"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Feb 15, 2007 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Cubbies downfall begins
"MESA, Ariz. (AP) -- Oft-injured Kerry Wood is out again -- this time because of a flub in a hot tub.

The Chicago Cubs pitcher is not expected to throw off the mound for a few days after he slipped this week getting out of a hot tub at home. Wood landed on his stomach and chest."

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-cubs-wood-hottub&prov=ap&type=lgns

It's the beginning of another "here we go again" season for the Cubbies.

"To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other." - Jack Handey

by JJ on Feb 15, 2007 2:21 PM PST reply actions  

AGAIN?!?!?!?
wow, i thought your link was a joke!!

by gotgreen on Feb 15, 2007 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

More ST news...
Do you think Jon Lieber is trying to compensate for something?
"My conclusion is that sportswriters just fucking love food." - Fire Joe Morgan

by JLaff on Feb 15, 2007 3:17 PM PST reply actions  

all that cash invested
and it's only making 300hp?  Wuss.
death to myspace!

by malikot on Feb 15, 2007 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

So Huddy? we should have
won a World Series?  Give that any thought when you were in the scuffle at the bar during the playoffs?
rip 2006, it was nice while it lasted.

by ak_A on Feb 15, 2007 8:19 PM PST reply actions  

I am glad
that AN did not exist when that episode was reported. Blez talked of a need for a "support group" after that failure, but I think reading AN during and after that series would have been completely intolerable.

I would say that that series ranks in the top 5 of most-horrifically-crushing-moments in sports history.

by mikeA on Feb 15, 2007 8:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah,
but the comments from Joe Morgan's cup and Huddy's oblique would've been entertaining.
"i was not told that this blog would involve math."

by Jennifer on Feb 15, 2007 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Joe Morgan
wears a cup in the broadcast booth? And it talks?

by mikeA on Feb 15, 2007 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

West coasters:
go watch Grey's. Now. (And by "now" I mean 15 minutes from now.) It's a doozy (is that even how you spell "doozy"?)...

by whiteshoes40 on Feb 15, 2007 8:45 PM PST reply actions  

OMG!!!!!!!
I CANT BELEIVE THIS!!!
"We got the best of him"

by iloveoakland on Feb 15, 2007 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel like I've committed some sort of crime
I've never seen Lost, Grey's Anatomy, CSI, or like any of those prime-time shows.
"My conclusion is that sportswriters just fucking love food." - Fire Joe Morgan

by JLaff on Feb 15, 2007 10:45 PM PST up reply actions  

CGV
JLaff looses all his posting priviliges.  off to the land that took oaktoon for you.
"Length matters, and if anyone tells you otherwise they're just trying to spare your feelings."-green star oakland

by F171615 on Feb 15, 2007 10:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I just can't plan it
I can't say "Okay, every Wedneday at 7pm, I'll watch 'Show X'." I'll be busy or actually studying one night and miss an episode, and then two, and then I just forget about it all together.
"My conclusion is that sportswriters just fucking love food." - Fire Joe Morgan

by JLaff on Feb 15, 2007 11:26 PM PST up reply actions  

OH MY GAWD!
this is soooo crazy!!
i'm glad you people are as excited about the new presidential dollars as i am!
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Feb 15, 2007 11:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm holding out
for the $3 bill. Just don't tell Tim Hardaway.

by boilerdan on Feb 16, 2007 6:07 AM PST up reply actions  

QOTM!
"...sometimes I can't tell the difference between baseball and magic."- salb918 "Ellie plowed into him like an evil, pink unicorn."-ArakSOT

by McFood on Feb 16, 2007 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

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