DLD 12/26/07 Christmas Hangover?
Well I hope everyone had a wonderful Holiday, whichever one you celebrate, or if you don't celebrate, just enjoyed a day off with the family. There isn't much going on in A's ville, but Mark Prior did sign with the Padres, and it seems he only signed for 1 Million, with incentives to bring it up to possibly 3 Million. I think the A's should have made a run at him for that.
Prior receives a one-year major league deal with a $1 million base salary. The contract, which doesn't include an option, contains incentive clauses that could take the total value of the deal to over $3 million.
But unless they don't use a mound anymore, who cares if he throws off of flat ground.
He has been throwing on flat ground, and to date, has been free of pain since his surgery.
Prior's lifetime record in the big leagues is 42-29, with a 3.51 ERA.
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Jim Callis chat
Dan Haren trade:
More quantity than quality. Oakland's farm system has really, really thinned out to the point where it was one of the worst in the game, and this deal will replenish is. But considering that a) Haren's contract makes him a bargain and b) the only blue-chip guys they got for him were Brett Anderson (whom I love) and Carlos Gonzalez (whom I believe is somewhat overhyped), that's not good enough. Haren's contract should make him as desirable or more than Santana, and what the A's got doesn't stack up to the rumored Santana packages.
Potential Blanton trade with Mets:
I'm not the biggest Gomez fan. That seems like quantity over quality for me, though there are people high on Gomez. Blanton is a proven innings eater, and I don't think that deal is too far out of whack.
The one thing, among many, that bothers me about
guys like Callis, they look at who can throw the hardest, run the fastest, or hit the ball the farthest, they never take into account, some people just succeed where others fail. I also don't see how he feels Haren should net anywhere near what Santana would. I guess Cy Youngs, and being the best pitcher in the game, don't mean anything. If Haren and Santana had the same amount of years, the package would not be the same, and most GM's are offering what Haren would be worth had they both been available. No way Haren should have netted what Santana would.
by theblackpearl on Dec 26, 2007 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
Haren and Santana
had wildly different values to different teams. To a small-market team, Haren was far more valuable. To a large-market team, Santana was more valuable.
It's like comparing apples and mainframe computers. Which one should I buy? It's an illogical question on the face of it, because different people/companies will want different things.
BA has a tools fetish, we already know that.
I can't fathom where he's getting that it doesn't measure up to the Santana packages. It's literally nonsensical to me.
A's on BA's Top 50
Bo (Honlulu, HI): Did any of the A's make the top 50?
SportsNation Jim Callis: Before the trade, no. But I have Brett Anderson at No. 21 and Carlos Gonzalez at No. 28.
by faninphilly on Dec 26, 2007 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
So how many top 50 players should the A's have
received, if 2 of them are in his top 50, Cargon is overhyped, but he is in his top 30.
by theblackpearl on Dec 26, 2007 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
If Anderson is #21,
Cahill is at least #20...
Also, Daric Barton says hi.
I'm not sure why it is but,
A's prospects tend to be undervalued. I can speculate that it has something to do with the A's farm system having a "thinned out" reputation, a lack development system of hype thanks to living int he Giants shadow, and aggressive graduating causing a player to never stay in one place long enough to put up inflated Brandon Wood type numbers, but other then that I'm at a loss.
I seem to remember Huston Street being 2/3rds of to way down most people's top 50 list before he won rookie of the year too.
by Threepwood XX on Dec 26, 2007 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
Its the four guys he doesn’t address
that intrigue me the most, because they each (Smith perhaps the lone exception) have the potential to become special players. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Carter and Cunningham show up on a lot of top 50 lists next offseason.
by pinkfloyd @ Athletics Nation on Dec 26, 2007 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
They won't be using a mound any more,
starting in 2008. Dirt steroids are being banned, so all parts of the infield will be level.
Finally. All we ask is a level playing field.
Are Boston sports fans racist?
Or, perhaps better phrased, are they more palpably racist than fans in other cities? Boston Magazine says no. I mean, yes. I mean, there's an awful lot of perception, so maybe it's more than just a baseless bad rap.
Article quotes folks like Bonds, Gary Matthews Jr, Bill Russell, Dee Brown, Michael Wilbon, Steven A. Smith, and more. A's fans might remember Terrence Long having similar words to say. Very interesting stuff. For instance, did you know that Bill Russell, author of a dozen championships and contender for title on best hoopster of all time, once had vandals break into his Boston-area home just to shit in his bed?
Couple of other interesting pull quotes:
Bud Collins, the legendary sportswriter who started out at the Herald in the 1950s, was once scolded for even suggesting that someone at the paper write about the Sox and racism. In his brilliant, brutally honest book Shut Out: A Story of Race and Baseball in Boston, ESPN’s Howard Bryant, who grew up here and worked as a sports columnist for the Herald, details the rebuke Collins received from his bosses: "‘They told me I had a lot to learn about their town,’ Collins remembered."
In 1973, during spring training in Winter Haven, Florida, (BoSox outfielder Tommy Harper) and other black players were not invited to dinners his white teammates attended at a segregated local club. Twelve years later, while working as a member of the Sox coaching staff, he described the incident to the Globe. Within a year he was fired. He eventually brought a discrimination lawsuit against the club that resulted in a settlement. Not long afterward, Jim Rice—for years the lone black Sox player—supposedly told a young Ellis Burks to leave the city as fast as he could.
(As a rookie Dee Brown) was driving through Wellesley when he was pulled from his car by the police and held face-down on the pavement at gunpoint. The cops were looking for a bank robber. A black man.
And yet, like K. C. Jones, Brown doesn’t want anyone to get the wrong idea: He loves Boston. "One incident happens and people dwell on it. It happens in every city, but Boston is stigmatized by it," Brown says. He repeatedly tells me that he has nothing but fond memories of playing here, that he wishes people would know the whole story before so quickly judging the city. "If you go back in history, especially with the Celtics, they had the first black player. The first black coach. There are a lot of things people forget to put in there. There are racial problems in every city. You go to the wrong neighborhood in any city and you’re black or you’re white or Hispanic or Italian or Irish, you might be in the wrong place."
Despite defending Boston to anyone who will listen, and especially to me, Brown acknowledges that altering the perception of the city is a difficult task. He knows because he’s tried, making his case to players and journalists alike. He hasn’t gotten very far. Most of the bitterness toward Boston is so deeply rooted now that it feels almost impossible to change anyone’s mind.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Dec 26, 2007 12:11 PM PST reply actions
my fantasy football team this year:
the boston racist cheaters
We couldn't have gotten Prior
especially for that price.
Prior went to the Padres because its his home town, an EXTREME pitchers park, in the National League, and a winning team. We arn't any of those right now.
Very True
It seems like a very calculated move by Prior. He's putting himself in the best situation for success next year. He definately could have gotten more money somewhere else but he's mainly trying to prove he's healthy while attempting to pad his stats as much as possible in order to cash in '09 with a multi-year deal.
Either way this is one hell of deal for the Padres, even at a $3 million base and upwards to $9 million after incentives would still seem like a decent gamble for some teams.
by methodrampage on Dec 26, 2007 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
Weither it is true or not
I think he's also trying to show that he isn't greedy, by taking a deal that is very, very cheap compared to other injured or oft-injured pitchers trying to come back (Mulder). Kind of reminds me of Frank Thomas, cept in this case, a dozen teams were vying for Prior instead of only us and Minnesota for Thomas (and we all know that Minnestoa would have been terrible for Thomas that year, playing on turf while coming back from a severe foot injury).
Greed has nothing to do with it.
If Prior feels he's truely healthy greed has nothing to with him signing for some cheap with the Padres. Sure he could have signed a two year deal with a team for more money but it's likely that situation (playing in the NL, pitcher's park, winning team) wouldn't have been as benefitical as San Diego. I find it hard to believe that he's just giving San Diego a huge home town discount for shits and giggles, he's setting himself up for a major contract in '09.
by methodrampage on Dec 27, 2007 9:31 AM PST up reply actions
Prior Deal
It looks like the deal is for $1 million base and up to an additional $4.5 million in incentives.
That has to be one of the most scattered idea'd
by theblackpearl on Dec 26, 2007 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
I'm a little mystified too by the column
But I think the bottom line is, if you're John Fisher, the reason you spend $1 million to buy a 3 percent stake in the soccer team is because you think it would be cool and fun to be a part owner of the club. $1 million is a tiny piece of his investment portfolio, so it's certainly not about return on investment. It's like one of us going out and buying a new bicycle or a pair of skis or something like that...basically, it's a new toy.
Dermot Desmond
You know, that does sound like a wizard's name....
I was typing the URL for FJM.com into my browser.
and as I started to type "www.firejoemorgan.com", the auto-fill thingy assumed I wanted to type "www.firefoxtutor.com". And my first thought was, "Who the hell is Fox Tutor?"
I volunteered to be a fox tutor
when I was in high school in the 1980s.
Will Paris Hilton have to do a Kfed impression
The Hilton Matriarch, is donating a whopping 97% of his fortune to charity, because Paris has sullied the Hilton name. He couldn't just change the sheets on this mess.
Jerry Oppenheimer, who profiled the Hilton family in his 2006 book "House of Hilton," has said Barron Hilton is embarrassed by the behavior of his socialite granddaughter Paris and believes it has sullied the family name
For you math whizzes, what is 3% of 2.3 Billion, and how many people will it be split with.
3% of 2.3 Billion
is about $70 million.
Don't know how many heirs we're talking about here, but that's not exactly chump change.
JUST IN: Paparazzi photo of Briggs Ellis birth

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Dec 26, 2007 5:55 PM PST reply actions
I never noticed before
but why is Mary so thin? She just had a kid for Christ's sake!
Maybe she does Pilates?
should that be "does" or "did"?
Either way, it's a scandalous assertion.
More Nativity in the news ...
Absurd broom-wielding confrontation of the day here.
I think Jesus might have handled the situation a bit differently (and I know Mark Ellis would have).
When Greek Orthos and Armenian Apostolics collide
it's ON, man!
Palestinian police formed a human cordon to separate the battling dark-robed and bearded priests and deacons, said to number about 80, so that cleaning could continue.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Dec 27, 2007 9:58 AM PST up reply actions
What would Mark Ellis do?

Worthy of a separate diary for discussion
Thank you for being more obsessive than me.
I knew I'd seen that somewhere before, but I lost patience with trying to find it.
Well, if I have to copy someone
FSU is a good model.
I didn't see the previous post here. I saw the WWUD picture ages ago, but never had occasion to post it.
Giants restocking the farm system
I guess its sort a loose interpretation of the word "restocking", but nevertheless.
I can't get worked up into a vent,
but I'll start with a kvetch: There's a headline on sfgate.com that says "There May Be Snowflakes"... and that made me think "They Might Be Giants"... and you can guess what happened in my head after that.
:(
That's one thing I'm pissed about:
Snow.
It snowed last week. Then it was in the 50s. It snowed again yesterday. It's supposed to snow again today and tomorrow.
I'd be okay with snow if it didn't make the ground wet. Then I have to walk through mud to get to my car... more mud when I get home. My car is like a giant block of muddy salt. Every goddamn pair of shoes I own are a mess. The rugs at the back door, too. And don't get me started on how muddy the dogs are.
Then the shit refreezes and I bust my ass walking outside.
And there is NO FUCKING SUN!
You got me beat.
Things that annoy me:
- People that say or write, "At the end of the day..."
- bullet points.
Ray Fosse interviewing:
"Ice Cream, how annoying is it when people say or write, 'At the end of the day...'?"
"Not as annoying, Ray, as people who say or write
'People that...' --like I did in my previous post!"

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