DLD 9/22/2006
According to Jon Heyman friends say aspiring actor Zito prefers SoCal, N.Y.
Boras as usual talks his client up:
The Oswalt contract is certainly relevant to what a premium player is worth when he's a year away from free agency. It's not a free agent value.Ok.
Boras wants >$90 million.
And responds the an anonymous Mets executive's assertion that Zito is no Oswalt
One had a big arm, and the other is a dominant control pitcher,'' Boras said. "I guess it's like a Nolan Ryan vs. Greg Maddux debate.So, Zito "leadoff walk" is Ryan? Or Maddux?
Zito as an actor
There are seven TV appearances listed on a Web site I found. In six of them, he plays himself, while in the seventh, an episode of JAG, he plays a Navy pitcher. Apparently, he's a victim of typecasting.Donovan rates the contenders' bullpens.
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frank thomas article in the NY Times
funny moment:
Listening to the television report about the recent Sports Illustrated article on Rodriguez, Thomas sat slack-jawed in the middle of a leather couch. He turned around and opened his mouth, but no words came out. In a different place, in a different year, this might have been awkward.
But in his new clubhouse, it was comical. Nick Swisher, the A's first baseman, stared down a couple of pitchers and yelled in his most sarcastic tone: "You call those hits?" Everybody laughed, including Thomas.
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wtf moment:
"Oakland has a way of bringing out the joy in the game, even for those who might have lost it. Thomas and Swisher keep a running tally of their home runs. Thomas and Bobby Kielty play football in the outfield before batting practice. As Thomas absorbs a pass rush from his younger teammates, he looks like a 6-foot-5, 275-pound jungle gym."
frank thomas playing football??
Auburn
yes
also, the a's offense didn't depend on him staying healthy back then.
Full Contact
I was just stating that he did play in college.
Great
leave it to swish
Great, Great Article
by SportySpice @ Athletics Nation on Sep 22, 2006 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Is it this picture?
*Magic #: MIGGY!*
photo
first hand account
that would explain the sitting from those folks. and i have to say it sure felt good to beat the sox with Big Frank having a big day, and watching the sox fans, who hated Frank, sit dejected, despondent, disconsolate, and disheartened.
oops, meant to reply to HollywoodOz
this is the kind of insight
If they hate Frank Thomas,
by Philip Christy on Sep 22, 2006 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Hate Themselves
by Colorado Fan on Sep 22, 2006 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Feh.
Most of those standing behind them are standing because, otherwise, they can't see over the guy in front of them.
Man
Because you guys know everything...
Thanks to both of you.
Doesn't Steve Kline do it too?
*Magic #: MIGGY!*
Zito 2006 = Kevin Brown 1998??!
IP: 257
Hits: 225
BB: 49
Ks: 257
HR: 8(!!)
18-9 record, 2.38 e.r.a. (160 ERA+)
Brown finished 2nd in the NL in innings pitched, WHIP, e.r.a., and K's. He was 3rd in K/BB ratio (5.24/1) and 5th in BB/9 innings (1.74/9).
The advantage Zito has in this comparison is age: Brown was 33 when he put together this season. But you have to stand, way way back, and squint your eyes up an awful lot to make Zito's 2006 look anything like Brown's 1998. Try again, Scott.
Both NY teams will learn to regret
Freudian slip by Boras
So you can see why Boras might want to throw GMs off the "which free-agent lefty does Zito resemble?" trail...
You know what that story is?
No, this is a story written by a tame journalist, who is giving Boras exactly what he wants - talk of Zito being interested in NY/LA (putting pressure on execs in those towns by increasing fan and media talk), and the framing of Zito as being 'like Maddux and Brown'.
The last few paragraphs are the big giveaway - it's as if Boras wrote them and faxed them in for inclusion.
So what's the writer get in return? Access. Watch for the big "Barry Zito, in his own words" story as soon as the deal is announced.
This is great...
http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=olney_buster#20060922
I'm not an Insider....
(emphasis mine)
Interesting.
Wow
*Magic #: MIGGY!*
Who you calling Uggla?
U-G-G-L... A...
I prefer to party at Ground Zero
fishbone
..."Make a Movie Star in You..."
are those the lyrics?
by Colorado Fan on Sep 22, 2006 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
If you're speaking of shoe-ins
Rookies aside
That he took a 14 million dollar payroll club
He'll be without a job for precisely...
the marlins have lost their mind. how do you
by larrysgurl on Sep 22, 2006 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Jeffrey Loria
*Magic #: MIGGY!*
Yeah, it's unfortunate, but without him
Jeff Loria is the woman who owned the Indians...
Only he wants to LEAVE Florida, not go there. And he'll do whatever it takes to hurt his team and make that possible - sell all the stars, cut payroll to 1978 levels, and sack the manager that helps them win regardless.
Here's a list of people we'll be inviting to camp
"This guy here is DEAD!"
"Cross him off, then."
*Magic #: MIGGY!*
Heh.
Lou: Gee, I don't know...
Loria: What do you mean, you don't know? This is your chance to manage in the big leagues.
Lou: Let me get back to you, will ya, Jeff? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.
incomplete list
And Jesus....
Don't forget the Special Olympics!
He ESPECIALLY hates
I saw Scarface
This is gonna be sweet.
Not saying that he should be fired
"Not one of the smarter moves of the year," said the source, adding the Marlins' decision makers were "shocked" Johnson returned to the mound that night.
With the Marlins still clinging to wild-card hopes, Johnson tried to stay loose by playing catch with Dontrelle Willis in an indoor batting cage. That Johnson left four innings later with cramping in his forearm and was subsequently shut down for the year with a strained ligament did not help Girardi's case.
No worse than what Dusty Baker does every day.
i'm confused
hell, even loria deserves more credit than girardi, for being a cheap sob, thus making those offseason moves necessary.
That's a little harsh
I agree that
It was he who raped Theo The Boy Wonder , and obtained Hanley Ramirez and Anibal Sanchez.
And while the Marlins are a $15 million team, they traded good players, in some cases superstars for good prospects.
But Beinfest isn't in danger of getting fired!
If you believe the article
Girardi is barely on speaking terms with Beinfest.
Any chance you could avoid using "raped"
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Sep 22, 2006 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
unless discussing the u of colorado football team
I(BF)QOTM!
by baseballgirl on Sep 22, 2006 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm very sorry.
were they really expected to lose over 100?
who predicted they would have fewer than 62 wins? john kruk and the espn gang?
even the betting line was 64.5 to 65.5 wins.
i believe that simulating 8 billion seasons or whatever had them in the mid-70s based on PECOTA and ZIPS, although i can't find a link. i had them at 72 in my predictions at the start of the season. it looks like they'll get to 80.
the difference is due to certain guys (uggla, olsen, etc.) performing much better than expected. should girardi get the credit for that? is that girardi pulling a young team together? was it when olsen got in about three separate fistfights throughout the season?
he can go to the cubs or giants or wherever else is hiring next year, and he'll probably miss the playoffs. meanwhile, the marlins will have a pretty decent team for the next five years.
Stuff I read
So the betting line was (essentially) 65 wins. 65 wins vs. 62 wins still means LOUSY team.
They had no starting rotation aside from Willis, no bullpen, and a line-up of Cabrera and....
They had amazing success with their young players. Kudos to the GM and the scouts, but Girardi was the only one in the dugout with any major league experience. I don't think it's a stretch to say that he helped his young prospects become big league players. Does he deserve all the credit? Nope. But he certainly doesn't deserve to be fired based on the performance of his team.
the betting line is not based on
the best would be the ZIPS and PECOTA projections, but unless somebody posts those, why not instead use the 72 wins i predicted in my diary?
okay, so that's like 8 extra wins assuming they get to 80.
at least a third of that isn't due to anything on the part of either girardi or the front office, but instead due to the marlins starting 2b, pokey reese, mysteriously disappearing at the beginning of the season and having to be replaced by uggla. so... luck.
I don't bet a ton
Moving on.
The Marlins are 76-77, 4 games out of the WC with 10 to play. No one expected them to compete for the postseason after what they did to their roster. Look, Girardi got dealt some good cards but you can't deny that he's played them well. Does he deserve to win the NL Manager of the Year award? Couldn't tell ya, I haven't been paying attention to the other teams in the NL but I can say that his team has been the most surprising to be in the WC race.
More importantly, he doesn't deserve to be fired for his performance on the field. You can't gut a team, fill it with 20+ rookies, hire a 1st year manager and then be upset when he has the team at or near .500 with 10 games to play. If Girardi gets fired after the seas its because his owner, Jeff Loria, doesn't like him. Which would be a stupid reason to fire an effective manager.
fired...
as far as manager of the year is concerned, it just goes to whichever manager's team had significantly more wins than expected. how can anyone say that overachievement is due to the manager?
ozzie won it last year, right? chicago's starting pitchers did much better than expected. if that's under ozzie's control, how come the starting pitching isn't as good this year even though they added vazquez?
what's the main reason the marlins are winning this year? starters willis, johnson, olsen, nolasco, and sanchez. maybe the pitching coach should win manager of the year.
same thing applies to the tigers. it's all about the pitching, so why does leyland get the credit?
So the manager is a non-entity?
Because that's exactly what you're saying. Girardi has led that team because there was no else in the dugout who could do so. He created an atmosphere that allowed his players to play to their full potential, maybe even beyond their potential. I couldn't tell you about his in-game strategies because I haven't watched a single Marlins game all year. OK, I saw a couple innings when they played the Braves back at the beginning of the year but I don't think that's enough to go on. About all I could tell you from that experience was he had everyone dressed in the same colored jersey.
The A's probably have the least independent manager in the game, and even Ken Macha (love him or hate him) has a profound impact on the whether the A's win or lose. Why should we assume less of a manager with more latitude?
But let's cut to the chase and make this simple. Who do you think should win the NL Manager of the Year award?
how about bobby cox?
the answer to that question is that i don't care because i don't think it matters. it's only slightly more important than who wins mascot of the year.
Well thank you oaktoon II
okay....
perhaps it's that you shouldn't be an a's fan at all, if you agreed with john kruk that chone figgins is the most valuable player in the AL, if you thought the a's were doomed if they didn't add players at the deadline, if you think of harden as fool's gold, etc.
OK, let's play
I did think the A's were doomed if they didn't get outside help because. 1) I didn't think Stoneman would be stupid enough to stand pat. 2) I knew Crosby wasn't going to mount much of a second half and the A's needed an offensive boost and the most logical place for the boost was the middle infield. I did not expect Crosby to go down and for Scoot to be an offensive improvement. My bad. But the only person who was making that call was oaktoon. 3) I didn't expect Kendall to have the bestmonth of his career in August.
Now, let me call bullshit on you right now if you were predicting either #2 or #3 to happen.
As for Harden, he's made all of 26 starts in the last two seasons. That is unacceptable. He is having the same oblique problems that have side tracked Tim Hudson for years. That's a problem. I won't have any problem if the A's trade a player they cannot count on for equal or better value talent wise.
If you're going to came after me you better wait until you get healthy, because this isn't even making me work up a sweat.
well...
i don't remember what it was exactly and i probably couldn't find it. so you didn't say he was the MVP (exaggeration on my part), but it was a level of praise for chone figgins that i found quite disturbing. and of course you did draft him in the first round of the AN fantasy baseball league.
06 a's
angels:
you made it pretty clear that you thought the a's would finish well out of first place. we'll say that means 3 games even though that's not very much.
what brilliant move would stoneman make that would mean the angels gaining around 10 games on the a's over the last 45 days?
the angels are already 28-19 (.600) in august and september after being stupid enough to stand pat.
scutaro:
scutaro has hit well over the last 1 1/2 months, but his defense is clearly inferior to crosby's, and that has been costly in a few games.
kendall in august/september:
august 01: .337 .396 .525
september 02: .320 .400 .400
august 03: .368 .456 .500
september 03: .364 .373 .424
september 04: .400 .454 .482
september 05: .324 .389 .392
august 06, aka the best month of his career: .358 .402 .425
maybe there's a pattern here...
At least your trying
And if you'll recall, the standings were much closer at the end of July then they are now. Hell, Colon was still pitching back then but his absence may have been a blessing in disguise for the Angels. The A's and Angels were seperated by, what, 2 games max? You don't think the Angels would be closer than 7 games back if they had added a bat like Lee or Soriano to their line-up? C'mon, you used to be better than that.
I stand corrected on Kendall. August 03 was the best month of his career. How silly of me not to have suspected that 36 months later he'd have the 3rd best month of his career. (Sorry, I'm not going to consider August 01. He hit 5 HR that month, he's hit 4 HR in the last 3 years. The power isn't there for a repeat performance.) But then again, his 358/402/425 of August was a far cry from the 265/350-ish he was posting at the end of July.
Speaking of which, did you happen to notice that one of Kendall's worst months, if not the worst of his entire career, was August 05? 202/268/228. Ouch.
As for Scutaro. The A's have pitching and defense to spare. As July came to a close they were desperate for offense. What, you thought the A's could get something for nothing? Other players picked up their game, which I called but then again most people were expecting it to happen, but Scoot filled the hole that had been Crosby's place in the line-up.
what?
yes, the standings were close in july. but the angels are now 7 back despite playing .600 ball since then. yet you blame stoneman for not making a move. and then you say i used to be better than that?
if the angels added either lee or soriano (at a very high cost in terms of prospects), how many games closer would they be to the a's? four or five games behind instead of seven?
the bottom line, as you very well know based on my previous post, is that every year kendall has either a great august, a great september, or both.
Hold on
And yes, I still think the Angels would be a lot closer in the standings if they had added Soriano or Lee. Worse case scenario they'd be 3-4 games out with 7 head-to-head match-ups. Zito pitching lousy, Blanton pitching lousy and Haren not exactly qualifying for stud status?
And if it wasn't for Loaiza's startling turn around the deficit might have been in the Angels' favor!
worst case scenario?
how many extra wins do you think adding soriano would mean over a month and a half?
i think i was being generous in giving a .600 team 2-3 extra wins.
you're saying 3-4 extra wins is the worst case scenario??
actually...
not the third best month of his career.
of augusts and septembers between 2001 and 2006.
Well, i've only got monthly splits
and the greater point is
there are plenty of baseball teams with organizational philosophies that are more in line with yours if you don't appreciate what the a's are doing.
and in the AL...
-for having the good sense to manage a team with a $200 million payroll.
-for having the intuition to add bobby abreu for nothing at the deadline.
-for dealing with all the personalities and egos that an all-star team will inevitably have.
and yet torre will probably win
If folks thought like you
Besides, I think the AL MOY should go to someone in the AL Central.
jim leyland will win
so credit leyland for the tigers trading for jeremy bonderman a few years ago, signing kenny rogers, magglio ordonez suddenly being able to stay healthy, chris shelton hitting like barry bonds for two weeks, verlander and zumaya being drafted, and robertson and maroth forgetting that they're mediocre pitchers for a few months?
what does leyland actually control? todd jones with an ERA that is bigger than his k/9 as their closer, over zumaya and rodney.
Seriously
But what do you care? You think the award is bogus, which is perfectly fine with me, yet you've spent so much time complaining about it. Makes no sense to me.
But what bothers me is this idea you seem to have that the manager is unimportant. That's just wrong. I think the manager does have an impact on how well a team does. You want to give all the credit elsewhere. Sorry, but I remember one time when everyone's favorite automaton Art Howe made a managerial decision that helped the A's win a road game. So managers do have an impact on the the W-L column in spite of what you may think.
i'd compare you to oaktoon
yes, the tigers were mediocre last year.
yes, leyland took over as manager this year.
yes, they're much better this year.
that does not prove leyland is the reason they're better. same goes for girardi.
if the 06 tigers were the same as the 05 tigers in terms of personnel and how each player performed, and if every other team was the same as well, we could attribute the improved outcome of the 06 tigers to leyland.
Well lucky you
Oaktoon would be proud.
that would be the best way to prove it
but you've offered no proof whatsoever. all you've got is the "they sucked before but now they're good" correlation.
Quit typing, start reading.
Girardi has helped his young team play well. Yes, his players have talent. But the our very own Bobby Crosby has proven that having talent does not mean being able to play up to that talent. Girardi and his coaching staff deserve credit for that and you refuse to acknowledge their contribution. Excuse me, you'll admit that a pitching coach can help the pitchers, but his boss has no influence on how the pitchers perform.
And by the way, you shouldn't be so quick to heap all the success on their pitching. They've given up 717 runs (understandable considering their youth) while scoring 724. That's 6 more runs than the A's have scored despite Oakland's natural advantage of having a DH.
But I suppose the hitting coach gets all the credit for that.
how do you know?
how do you know this?
you said girardi pullled a young team together. olsen has been involved in two or three fistfights with teammates this year.
one of the marlin's main improvement was pokey reese disappearing so uggla got the second base job.
if girardi kidnapped pokey reese, i'll admit he deserves to be manager of the year.
Didn't you read the article
Quotes like:
"And, it's true, all the rookie manager has done is help the Marlins to a surprising season"
and
"The players will be angry over Girardi's firing. You'd hope so, too. He worked, played, bonded and surprised with them over this season."
That wasn't the first time I'd heard positive things about Girardi's handling of the club.
If you think the MOY award is a joke that's fine with me. What I don't agree with is your assertion that the manager has no influence over how his team plays.
just because i agree with the general point
there are plenty of popular managers out there, that doesn't mean they're effective.
you're anti-macha, would you think he was a good manager if the players liked him? if he "worked, played, bonded and surprised with them"?
so you agree
Hmm...
Bias, maybe?
it's one thing to believe
that doesn't mean the author of the article can properly judge the job girardi has done with the team.
As for Macha
Furthermore, Girardi is a popular manager and he has been effective. The Marlins' sudden bounce back after the fire sale proves that to anyone who believes that the manager has an influence on the outcome of his team's play.
This is a phenomenon that has been proven time and again, like when Eric Wedge left Cliff Lee in to face Bobby Kielty with the bases loaded just the other day. Or when Art Howe had T-Long steal 2B against Mike Williams of the Pirates, putting him in position to score the winning run when the batter hit a single.
So there are two examples of a manager having an effect on the outcome of a game, one win and one loss. And since you have already acknowleged that the Marlins have played well, based on both personal performances and team record, than I assume we can put this farce to bed.
the wedge and howe examples
and i don't even think one can say that just because a particular managerial decison worked out or not, that it was the correct or incorrect decision, meaning based only on the outcome.
but as far as girardi or leyland are concerned, you have provided no evidence that the teams wouldn't do just as well (or better) with dusty baker or nico's goat as manager.
Evidence?
So sit there in your unassailable belief. But know this. Any arguement or position that cannot be tested for accuracy is considered inherently false. The burden of proof is on you from here on out. You are in the minority here. It is your position that flies in the face on Conventional Wisdom. Funny thing about CW, it's not always wrong. But if you want to challenge the system be my guest. But it's up to you to prove otherwise, and if you can't, then you need to drop the subject now.
also, until recently
They've played a bunch of kids!
An article
and it answers the firing question
Again
he will be replaced
Gee, I hope Macha doesn't get canned
Lousy read, actually
Look, you can't tell your boss to fuck off and get away with it. Usually. But if Girardi gets the boot it will have been over a personality clash and not because of his performance as manager of the Marlins. Because that work has been fine.
Telling your boss to f*** off
Let's say Macha is barely on speaking terms with Beane, would you keep him?
Too easy
Look, Loira can fire and hire whomever he wants. If he wants to fire Girardi because he doesn't like him than so be it. I think it's a stupid reason to can someone but sometimes that's all it takes. But that's not what is happening in Florida, is it? You're own link says otherwise. They're trying to build a case to fire him because of his on field decisions. Well, 76-77 while playing 20+ rookies gives the middle finger to the legitimacy of that plan.
Look,
But both articles do hint at least that Girardi has a very bad working relationship with his bosses.
Hard to imagine
Look, if Loria wants to fire Girardi after one year because the two don't like each other... fine. But it's not asking too much for Jeff to suck it up and be honest about why he wants Joe gone. Instead he's being coniving.
Simply put, Girardi has done nothing on the field to warrant getting canned. And I can't blame the guy for wanting to tell an asshole like Loria to shut his mouth.
Beinfest
and beinfest
I just have one question
Yeah, yeah
Kinda like...
by LD on Sep 22, 2006 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
So you agree then
Believe me, I can prove that theory wrong without too much trouble.
No, I don't agree with that.
by LD on Sep 22, 2006 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
If you don't agree, then why are you
Point is, today, on this topic, I'm not wrong. You said so yourself! Tomorrow, on another topic... that might not be the case.
Ahhh...
Moving on now to more enjoyable topics...
by LD on Sep 22, 2006 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh!
OK. Yeah, that's me. It doesn't usually come out until the 3rd or 4th volley but I do pull it out on occasion. And it doesn't even have to be a special occasion. I mean, we're talking about the Marlins! I don't care about the Marlins. But it seemed fitting for the occasion.
Besides
You have indeed
by LD on Sep 22, 2006 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't forget
Professionalism, maybe?
Didn't affect the team's performance much, did it?
I'll say it again. If the Marlins want to can Girardi for personal reasons so be it. But this bullshit about trying to justify their action based on Girardi's performance as manager is just that... bullshit.
Sure it's bullshit,
Again, if you believe the articles, Girardi barely speaks to Beinfest. This goes beyond "not great".
I just disagree with the portrayal by some people of Girardi as a saint who walks on water.
Look, the situation the Marlins are in is lousy; whatever they do, they're <censored>.
Well, if I suggested sainthood
All I'm saying, and your article describes what is happening, is that the Marlins trying to defend this impending firing by pointing to Girardi's performance on the field is ridiculous. It is not based on any sort of logic that I or most people would recognize. Taking a $15 million dollar roster with 20+ rookies and having them compete for the playoffs is the stuff movies are made about.
Well, I don't follow the Marlins
-Nick Swisher
by kaweahkaweah on Sep 22, 2006 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
i never said he should be fired
Didn't we do the same a few weeks back
Loaiza, right?
be afraid!
Aww... teaminess
Union-MLB seeing progress
http://money.cnn.com/2006/09/22/commentary/sportsbiz/index.htm?cnn=yes
-Nick Swisher
C'mon, Bud
The Yankees at $220 million (and climbing) is just nuts.
by Checkswing HR on Sep 22, 2006 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Here's a nice little wrap up....from short hops
"I don't know how they are in the playoffs, and I'm pretty sure they don't know how they are in the playoffs."
Well, actually John we haven't made the playoffs, YET.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?page=shorthops_060921
did you catch this lil gem?
that must have been a helluva scene.
by popcornjames on Sep 22, 2006 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
So who's the dominant control pitcher?
Victor Zambrano?
Some team is going to be sorry
He has also logged many games, never missing a start, that may not last, that is an unknown at this point.
by china bob on Sep 22, 2006 9:30 AM PDT reply actions
Carsnick Chat
Jerry Crasnick: (12:21 PM ET ) Alex,
Consider it acknowledged.
Moar
Jerry Crasnick: (12:30 PM ET ) Patrick,
Based on his performance yesterday, sure. But given Harden's injury history and his late start, the A's are going to have to monitor him closely. I don't see him pitching more than 5-6 innings per start in the postseason.
Did he used to play 3b back in the '80s?
-Nick Swisher
by kaweahkaweah on Sep 22, 2006 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Can you bring me my carsnick?
But my lips hurt real bad!
I enjoy listening to
-Nick Swisher
by kaweahkaweah on Sep 22, 2006 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought "carstalk" ...
yes...
-Nick Swisher
by kaweahkaweah on Sep 22, 2006 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
when grover thinks about Jeff Loria ...
sal, I thought o it first, you just typed it first
Don't get all carsnicketty with me!
Carroll on Harden:
The news isn't so good for Bobby Crosby. The shortstop hasn't made much progress and is likely out for the season. The A's are also watching Eric Chavez closely. He's having more problems with the hamstring that has plagued him all season long. He's out for the weekend, at least, and will be re-evaluated next week.
Please don't start perezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I've never seen a more terrible player in my entire life. Everything about him is bad - especially his body language.
D'Angelo Jimenez should be playing 3B for Chavvy.
by Colorado Fan on Sep 22, 2006 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Batting 9th at 3rd base....
Pinch Hitting for Perez' needs in the bottom of the 8th, Dan Johnson's wants.
Yay!
I'd rather have no new stadium...
by Philip Christy on Sep 22, 2006 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow.
"Three friends of Barry Zito..."
No no no no
They played a concert of his a couple of years ago during a rain delay in Texas & both Texas announcers, me, my friend, her dog and cat were trying to make it stop.
by baseballgirl on Sep 22, 2006 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Gotta agree there...
Oh dear Lord...
by baseballgirl on Sep 22, 2006 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Not kidding
2003 linky
I'd have paid a lot to see that... LOL (supposedly Mark Ellis did the benefit in 2002... I would have paid even more to see that...)
Okay.

The crazy costumes, the botched choreography -- it's all for kids and no one knows that better than Barry Zito.
That photo... with that caption.
I'm still looking for a 2002 photo...
I actually saw the one in 2003
I'm a dancer and Nutcracker is just starting up for me right now. I have no free Saturdays for three months.
Old school Hal Bodley
'Gold Glove third baseman
<ahem>
...
Win the whole f'in thing.
by baseballgirl on Sep 22, 2006 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow...
Which one did you think?
Probably
:)
bwaha!
The Canadian Gambler thread?
I was thinking of the *thread* that bothered you
LOL
I'm so confused.
Link
What about the krazee DLD?
That was hilarious.
AN search request
One
http://athleticsnation.com/story/2005/7/25/04754/4704
And for the record...
I don't remember any more.
oh...THAT one!
Yeah...so?
I have to come up with something worse?
If you want it to sting...
lame.
C...... C....... C..........
{sniffles in dainty self-disappointment}
I was wracking my brain
I don't know why I bother to try and remember things anymore.
Oh, shut up!
I really like that sig line of his...
Here:
It has fewer comments now, but it was threaded. Comments were deleted because 1) people were banned, 2) people decided to leave (oaktoon and AsLAX or something, for example).
you know
All My Children's Asses
While Your Ass Was Out
hee hee.
I'm surprised I missed out on this
Desperate Ass Housewives (The stuff that happens when the A's go on a 15 day, 4 city road trip)
Extreme Ass Makeover (Hurt takes Scutaro under his wing and turns him into a bulked up home-run slugging piece of man-candy)
Ass-swap (Jay Witasick and Californiagirl)
C-Ass-I (What's wrong with Chavy's)
Celebrity Ass Poker (nuf said)
At the rate that grover/xbx debate is going
their colloquy above ...
LOL
<flings obloquy on their colloquy>
I had to look that up.
the anti-fremont crowd has gone too far
Even more!
Please Explain
She's cheating on Crosby!
Melody!!!!
by baseballgirl on Sep 22, 2006 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait...that's right!
Man, Athleticsgirl24 is gonna be pissed
I heard that too
by oaklandbbfan on Sep 22, 2006 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I've seen a camera girl there that's HAWT!
Harden on BBTN
Ravitch: What were your biggest concerns going into the game?
Rich: My biggest concern was how my off-speed pitches feel. My fast ball has been feeling great lately. I didn't know how my arm would feel throwing my change and my split, because that's the pitch I hurt myself on. I felt good throwing that pitch, and that's why it's definitely positive today.
Ravitch: How's your head? Are you confident now that you can go forward?
Rich: Yeah it definitely helped today. I threw my change and my split and I was pain-free. I threw my FB and had some good velocity. A lot of it is in the head getting over that mental hump, having that confidence in your arm again and letting it go. It's too easy to change your mechanics, do things like that ... it felt great.
A lot of people asked if I was nervous, and it wasn't about how I was going to pitch again, it was how my elbow is going to feel. My elbow felt the best it has in a year, year and a half.
*******
Rich also said that he threw a splitter yesterday, in the bullpen before the game, for the first time since before he hurt his elbow. That must have been a nerve-racking moment.
On the radio, somebody (I think it was Vince Cotroneo) said that Curt Young holds his breath every time Rich throws a slider. If that's the case, how's about we not have Rich throw a slider until further notice?
by Checkswing HR on Sep 22, 2006 1:12 PM PDT reply actions
I really really don't understand that
WTF?!!
Neither do I
Ok, so I have to ask
by BobbyCrosbysGirl on Sep 22, 2006 3:02 PM PDT reply actions
me too, all I think about is our A's
by gilaASfan on Sep 22, 2006 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Me 3
-Nick Swisher
by kaweahkaweah on Sep 22, 2006 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
How can you wet your pants
by Checkswing HR on Sep 22, 2006 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
There is HOPE!!!
PLEASE RICH, DO IT!!!
If Rich follows through on this ...
My sentiments exactly.
What's next, Crosby re-evaluating his fanatical devotion to his swing?
though, really, doesn't every guy ...
Big Hurt 's big comeback
"10. The Big Hurt: After an acrimonious departure from Chicago, and three years removed from his last healthy season, the A's took a chance on Frank Thomas. The big DH has responded with 38 homers, 107 RBIs in what will probably earn him the AL's Comeback Player of the Year."

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