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Link Dump 2/23: Because No One Else Took the Time to Create One

It is with a heavy heart and profound sadness that I post today's DLD.  The reason for my distraught feelings?  As of 11:30am PST, no one had posted a DLD.  What happened?  Where are the dependable dumpers?  Why have those trusted names and dedicated souls let us down?  Why has it been left to me, a lurker who posts a comment less than once a month, to post the DLD?  Shame on you.

On to my shabby list o' links...

It's early, but Susie says Zito and Harden are in fine form.

Zito is in sensational shape and his velocity is up, according to the two men who have caught him, while Harden's recovery from surgery on his left (non-throwing) shoulder is rapidly becoming a non-issue.
Only one tangentially-related A's question in Neyer's chat this morning:
Dan (Stirling, Scotland): Rob, Do the Cardinals sign Mark Mulder to an extension, just to not get completely embarassed from the Haren/Barton deal? The thought of signing Mulder to a long-term deal given his downward trend in peripherals scares the heck out of this Cardinals fan.

Rob Neyer: Depends on the $$$ in the long-term deal. My guess is that Mulder and his agent will be thinking All-Star money . . . but Mulder's really not that good any more. He's still a good pitcher, so he's worth $8-$10 million per season. But I don't think the Cardinals can get him for that. And yes, they're going to miss Haren and Barton.

Wow, is it a slow news day.  Guess I'll mention that Dan Meyer had a tough season last year.  (Where was I?)
Meyer's year was a nightmare. He injured his left shoulder working out in spring training, didn't tell anybody, got hammered in the Cactus League and the first five weeks of the regular season at Triple-A Sacramento, then finally told the truth about the injury.

"If I could do it again, of course, I would say something earlier," Meyer said. "But it's a new team, a high-profile trade. There was some pressure. I wanted to show what I can do. I kept pressing, and I pressed too hard. That's the type of competitor I am. I didn't want to be that person. I did everything I possibly could to battle through it."

The A's weren't thrilled Meyer took so long to come clean about the injury, but felt a sense of relief because it explained why Meyer was suddenly so ineffective. Meyer never had an ERA above 2.87 at any level in the minors, yet his ERA was 6.62 when he went on the disabled list May 11.


Extremely off-topic, somewhat self promotional, and a possible violation of AN guidelines: I'm training for a triathlon and raising money for the good people at the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society.  If you'd like more info, here it is. (I apologize in advance for the blinding photo.)

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BA top 100
Baseball America has released their Top 100 prospects for this year.
Daric Barton comes in at number 28, with a listed ETA of 2006, though I don't see him making more than a token appearance with the A's this year.
Farther Down Javier Herrera is 74th (ETA 2008) and Cliff Pennington is 83rd (ETA 2007).
As a tribute to Jimi Hendrix, I'm going to light my tapir on fire and choke on my own vomit. - monkeyball

by andeux on Feb 23, 2006 11:38 AM PST reply actions  

Angels
Everybody loves their guys, hopefully they blow it developing them like they have with McStrikeout or else keepiing up with them will be tough.
"If you throw at someone's head, it's very dangerous, because in the head is the brain." -- Pudge Rodriguez

by niallmack on Feb 23, 2006 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

OK
If I understand that correctly,
a)Scioscia says the Angels offense is built on BARISP and BARISP w/2outs
b)there are no stats to prove that these stats are predictable
c)even though there are no stats that are known to prove it, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist
conclusion: I'd rather build an offense on something that is predictable rather than relying on some "magic" stat which may or may not exist.
"If you throw at someone's head, it's very dangerous, because in the head is the brain." -- Pudge Rodriguez

by niallmack on Feb 23, 2006 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

is Rob the most popular name on AN?
Rob
Robb
White Rob

Where's Darth Rob when you need him?

News from the Bleachers!
Dangeresque: Private Eye, Crooked Cop, Secret Agent and Celebrity Pharmacist

by Zonis on Feb 23, 2006 11:51 AM PST reply actions  

utter hotness himself takes to the airwaves
Your AL Rookie of the Year discusses Texas football, looking out for his little brother, and wearing a bathrobe in the afternoon. Skyrockets in flight, indeed!
"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King

by batgirl on Feb 23, 2006 12:35 PM PST reply actions  

I knew it!
"...Put on something I can barely feel."

Huston totally bakes in the nude.

by Jennifer on Feb 23, 2006 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmm...
I thought that was more of a Jeff Weaver/Rex Hudler kind of thing.
A Beane in the hand is worth $60M in payroll

by jeepers on Feb 23, 2006 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Frank Thomas
I did not care for this bit of Slusser's report:
[Frank Thomas] might not be allowed to hit for some time, much less run, putting his availability for Opening Day in serious doubt. Davis said there is no timetable for Thomas to hit.

No wonder he came cheap.

by matthias on Feb 23, 2006 12:46 PM PST reply actions  

The good news is that DJ can
more than capably fill in for FT.  
"Macha, Howe...whatever." --salb918

by BruceBochte on Feb 23, 2006 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

not surprising
he's getting paid $500,000. that's barely over legue minimum. incentives kick in only if he can actually play.

by OaklandSi on Feb 24, 2006 3:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Looook what I found.... :)
ANtics Extra: Zito's Zen Routine

http://www.louisgray.com/live/

Best Coliseum promotion of the year? 2005 Oakland A's baseball.

by baseballgirl on Feb 23, 2006 1:39 PM PST reply actions  

ST pix!
the big huuuuuurt!

macha and haren!

crosby! STAY HEALTHY!

milton bradley! first time seeing him in the green and gold!

utter hotness!

loaiza and Z!

I LOVE THIS TEAM!!

"you know it's way cooler to be an A's fan" - billy beane to larry krueger

by gotgreen on Feb 23, 2006 1:40 PM PST reply actions  

pictures courtesy of yahoo! sports.
you can see them here.
"you know it's way cooler to be an A's fan" - billy beane to larry krueger

by gotgreen on Feb 23, 2006 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Great shots, but I have a question....
Why did Ken (Gillooly) Macha knock Haren in the knees?
"Put a Milo on him." -Billy Beane

by kaweahkaweah on Feb 23, 2006 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Saarloos hired him
He really wants to start.
I've seen the error of my ways... MaElLuvR

by Poppy on Feb 23, 2006 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Macha's really...
...laying down the law this year...
"(Insert favorite AN quote here.)" -- Some ANer
AN Census

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Feb 23, 2006 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

A smile from Bradley.
That's nice.
"Any shots that I'll be callin' will be to the bartender!" -- Band Camp

by Sharon on Feb 23, 2006 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I have been missing this...
our guys lookin' good in green and gold.
Thanks for posting.
"Listen, my attitude is a whole lot better when we win..." Our favorite GM

by LongTimeFan on Feb 23, 2006 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

damn Bradley looks fat
and I guess Macha is filling in for the Genovese family...
I need a cigarette

by As Man on Feb 23, 2006 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

is it just me, or ...
... does the photo of Bradley grinning look an awful lot like Tony Gwynn?
it was the crazy-people underestimation @('.')@

by monkeyball on Feb 23, 2006 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

ya,
I think the middle one does too.  Maybe he's Gwynn's clone and they just f'd up the personality a little bit?
I need a cigarette

by As Man on Feb 23, 2006 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

::ahem::
New article at BtB re: run distributions.  Ahem.

http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/story/2006/2/23/164417/484

Copernicus felt the same way about the geocentric crew.

by salb918 on Feb 23, 2006 1:50 PM PST reply actions  

"Smyth-patriot model"?
No, no, no, Sal -- in ep3 of season 2 of the original Star Trek, it's the "Smithee-Xenophobe projection" that enables Kirk to outrun the Klingon battlecruiser even though Scotty had ejected half of the dilithium crystals into space.
it was the crazy-people underestimation @('.')@

by monkeyball on Feb 23, 2006 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

A film by Alan Smithee
The Smyth Patriot model is not quite as attractive as the SI Swimsuit model.  But almost as useful.
Copernicus felt the same way about the geocentric crew.

by salb918 on Feb 23, 2006 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

hooray!!!!!!
I just won 20 bucks? How? Well there is this little gambling thing here in Israel called "Winner" where you bet on different sports games. Mostly soccer, with EuroLeague b-ball and NBA as well. It's got ratios and all the good stuff. I just made 20 dollars out of 2!!

P.S. It's allowed for 16 and overs, and i'm 15 1/2, i hope nobody reports me. I'm happy!

RIP Bill King "By the Beard of Zeus!" "I don't know if you heard me counting. I did over a thousand"

by ohad on Feb 23, 2006 1:59 PM PST reply actions  

I just reported you to CGV.
So there.
Copernicus felt the same way about the geocentric crew.

by salb918 on Feb 23, 2006 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Figures.
"Any shots that I'll be callin' will be to the bartender!" -- Band Camp

by Sharon on Feb 23, 2006 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

You, too.
So don't get smart.
Copernicus felt the same way about the geocentric crew.

by salb918 on Feb 23, 2006 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't gooooo changin' ...
it was the crazy-people underestimation @('.')@

by monkeyball on Feb 23, 2006 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I report you everyday.
"Any shots that I'll be callin' will be to the bartender!" -- Band Camp

by Sharon on Feb 23, 2006 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Apropos of nothing
is there a community guideline against being a poopyhead?
As a tribute to Jimi Hendrix, I'm going to light my tapir on fire and choke on my own vomit. - monkeyball

by andeux on Feb 23, 2006 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think so.
And until there is, my attorneys have advised me to continue my poopyhead ways.
Copernicus felt the same way about the geocentric crew.

by salb918 on Feb 23, 2006 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I reported him to Rev. Halofan
He'll pray for you.
"Put a Milo on him." -Billy Beane

by kaweahkaweah on Feb 23, 2006 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

and he'll get "ohad" tattooed on his ass
I've seen the error of my ways... MaElLuvR

by Poppy on Feb 23, 2006 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha! Hilarious
The Rev.  My vote for "#1 Comic Relief on the Net."
"Macha, Howe...whatever." --salb918

by BruceBochte on Feb 23, 2006 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Ginter
I believe this was requested yesterday:

Now is the Ginter of our discount tent.

"(Insert favorite AN quote here.)" -- Some ANer
AN Census

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Feb 23, 2006 2:07 PM PST reply actions  

<Annika sorenstam venereal disease>
it was the crazy-people underestimation @('.')@

by monkeyball on Feb 23, 2006 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

UH? What?
What are you talking about MB?  Did she get it from her clubs?
"Macha, Howe...whatever." --salb918

by BruceBochte on Feb 23, 2006 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Psst...Bruce...
It's his way of saying "golf clap." But humor him and laugh as if you knew all along.
"(Insert favorite AN quote here.)" -- Some ANer
AN Census

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Feb 23, 2006 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I actually took the time...
...to search for its origins before saying anything, because today I learned I should do comment searches before I say anything to monkeyball...  ;)
I've seen the error of my ways... MaElLuvR

by Poppy on Feb 23, 2006 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I admit...
I did too. ;)
"(Insert favorite AN quote here.)" -- Some ANer
AN Census

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Feb 23, 2006 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I was going to say...
You know you have been on AN a long time if you got that...even from monkeyball.

by easyraider on Feb 23, 2006 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

you don't have to have been on AN a long time
to get the clap from me!

<scrambles into underbrush>

it was the crazy-people underestimation @('.')@

by monkeyball on Feb 23, 2006 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

yes, please
Humor Me
it was the crazy-people underestimation @('.')@

by monkeyball on Feb 23, 2006 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Doh!
MB, considered yourself "humored"!
"Macha, Howe...whatever." --salb918

by BruceBochte on Feb 23, 2006 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

= "golf clap"
Sorry if that was unclear. I've been using that sporadically for a couple weeks now.
it was the crazy-people underestimation @('.')@

by monkeyball on Feb 23, 2006 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

But seriously...
What does Sorenstam's VD have to do with a golf clap?
"Macha, Howe...whatever." --salb918

by BruceBochte on Feb 23, 2006 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

"clap" = chlamydia
it was the crazy-people underestimation @('.')@

by monkeyball on Feb 23, 2006 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

OK, I am officially AN's thickest member
<exiles self to Halos Heaven>
"Macha, Howe...whatever." --salb918

by BruceBochte on Feb 23, 2006 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

<BruceBochte turns purple>
Oh, and: "thickest member"? BaNNeD!
it was the crazy-people underestimation @('.')@

by monkeyball on Feb 23, 2006 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

oh no
Do I have to laugh my ass off at this again? I just got it reattached.
I've seen the error of my ways... MaElLuvR

by Poppy on Feb 23, 2006 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm sorry...
I'll buy you a new one.

Wait...

"(Insert favorite AN quote here.)" -- Some ANer
AN Census

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Feb 23, 2006 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

does the ass follow the 5-second rule?
it was the crazy-people underestimation @('.')@

by monkeyball on Feb 23, 2006 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Fine, since all y'all like pictures!
Best Coliseum promotion of the year? 2005 Oakland A's baseball.

by baseballgirl on Feb 23, 2006 2:09 PM PST reply actions  

louismg!
I'm outraged that this wasn't posted here first!

by ArakSOT on Feb 23, 2006 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Tell me about it!
Best Coliseum promotion of the year? 2005 Oakland A's baseball.

by baseballgirl on Feb 23, 2006 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Excuses, Excuses
Arak, wouldn't you rather see NEW ones for 2006 instead of the older ones that stunk last year, and stink now? :-)

There's more "director's cut" ANtics that may sneak in now and then. But we're planning on making 2006's ANtics consistently and to your liking.

So... that's my excuse. No reason to fill up AN with my rough drafts.

More ANtics and other nonsense: http://www.louisgray.com/live/

by louismg on Feb 23, 2006 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

OT: Slime Mold Incites Motion in Robot
FWIW, I think this is much cooler than the alligator-toothed chicken embryo. [No offense intended, MrIncognito.]
it was the crazy-people underestimation @('.')@

by monkeyball on Feb 23, 2006 2:49 PM PST reply actions  

what's its OPS?
I've seen the error of my ways... MaElLuvR

by Poppy on Feb 23, 2006 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

how about
the quantum computer that works while it's off.
As a tribute to Jimi Hendrix, I'm going to light my tapir on fire and choke on my own vomit. - monkeyball

by andeux on Feb 23, 2006 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Darn fuzzy science journalism
Anyway, wouldn't that lead to too many science-fiction nightmare scenarios?  

"Why are the slime-bots still coming toward us? I thought you said you turned it off?"

Copernicus felt the same way about the geocentric crew.

by salb918 on Feb 23, 2006 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Another computer Joe Morgan will never use
They send a photon into a system of mirrors and other optical devices, which included a set of components that run a simple database search by changing the properties of the photon.

The new design includes a quantum trick called the Zeno effect. Repeated measurements stop the photon from entering the actual program, but allow its quantum nature to flirt with the program's components - so it can become gradually altered even though it never actually passes through.

I believe they modeled the photon bombardment on Zito's curveball and its relation to umpires' imaginary strike zones.

"A non-running computer produces fewer errors"

Are all of you stathead brainiacs glassy-eyed Kool-Aid-drinking Beaneac zombies?

it was the crazy-people underestimation @('.')@

by monkeyball on Feb 23, 2006 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Bombardment is a product of...
that which does not bombard.

Vince Lombardi is a a product of that which does not this.

Ha ha! Looking for a link?

Fooled again!

"Keep the juices going by jangling around gently as you move." - Satchel Paige

by McFood on Feb 23, 2006 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh dear
International Journal of Unconventional Computing

Oh dear.

Copernicus felt the same way about the geocentric crew.

by salb918 on Feb 23, 2006 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

"Unconventional Computing"
Would that be, like, a single-use Turing machine?
it was the crazy-people underestimation @('.')@

by monkeyball on Feb 23, 2006 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

OT: AN Question
In my profile options there is a section under Display Prefrences labled "Boxes".

 Your Hotlist
 Who's online
 External Feeds
 Poll

I have each of the corresponding boxes checked, but cannot see any of the features. Where should they show up?

"Every year I'm asked if we're buyers or sellers, and every year we're both. Just once, it would be nice to buy without selling."-Beane

by pbruins92 on Feb 23, 2006 5:28 PM PST reply actions  

those are vestigial reptilian features
They should only show up on mutant chicken embryos. Or slime-mold-incited robots.
it was the crazy-people underestimation @('.')@

by monkeyball on Feb 23, 2006 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

and if you soak them in betadine...
Actually, I want to know (or maybe I don't) what "Signature Behavior: Sticky" means.
I've seen the error of my ways... MaElLuvR

by Poppy on Feb 23, 2006 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

my signature behavior is ...
<flings poo>

Depending on the Nacho Runs, that may or may not be "sticky," I guess.

it was the crazy-people underestimation @('.')@

by monkeyball on Feb 23, 2006 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

No music for you!
Well, not really. Grady Little will limit pregame music to headphones only.

BORING!

I can't see the A's adopting this rule.

"Any shots that I'll be callin' will be to the bartender!" -- Band Camp

by Sharon on Feb 23, 2006 6:22 PM PST reply actions  

Interesting coming from ex-Red Sock
The clubhouse Cone of Silence is a Yankee thing, along with short hair, no beards, and banal repartee (recovering Swinging A's exempted).  Gotham poster boy Joe Girardi is imposing these pinstriped pincers in Tampa this year too.
"Beane would suck TJ's face off a nickel, crap out pennies and collect `em to sweeten the next deal." --Stomper

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Feb 23, 2006 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

starting pitcher ratings
found this on http://www.ondeckbaseball.com

interesting that for starting pitchers they have them listed by numbers' 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 - and all of the A's pitchers are listed as either numb.1's, or 2's - Loiza, Haren, and Saarloos are the number 2's.

can't wait for the season to start.!

by catfish hunter on Feb 23, 2006 7:21 PM PST reply actions  

Top 100 BA Prospects - Callis comments
Thought that Jim Callis' chat-wrap discussion about the Moneyball draft should be shared, if it hasn't been already...

Q:     Dave from Third Avenue, Manhattan asks:
Jim, what is your take on the Moneyball draft, four years out. Swisher and Blanton seem to be doing just fine. Who else bears watching? Jeremy Brown?

 A:    
Jim Callis: Geez, the Ed Rogers questions must be next. Given the number of picks the Athletics had in 2002, their Moneyball draft looks pretty average to me.......(continued)

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/chat/060224callis.html

by catfish hunter on Feb 23, 2006 7:27 PM PST reply actions  

Baseball Genes / A's Pics
Looking at the A's Spring training pics, doesn't it make any of you A's Nation readers envious of these guys? Talk about having a great life. It looks like their all having a fantastic time at a Country Club/ Baseball Fantasy Camp. Beautiful Arizona weather & the adulation of thousands of fans. My eight year son wants to be a professional baseball player. Not because of any prodding from me, or trying to have him live my dreams through him. He just loves the game & really enjoys it. Any of you guys out there have any tips on how to best help your kid out?  
Right now, he's got an excellent set of wheels, is well coordinated, & likes to train religiously on his pitchback. I also play catch with him every chance I get. He is only in the pitching machine group of Little League. The only thing that screws us up, is the cold weather we have here in BFE Nevada. The kids in So Cal & some sections of the South do truly have a better circumstance in terms of weather. Any thoughtful tips from the A's Nation would be appreciated.      
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball".-Jacques Barzun

by bambikiller on Feb 23, 2006 9:27 PM PST reply actions  

Tell him to not throw curveballs
until he is in HS. That, or have him do Long Toss EVERY day.
News from the Bleachers!
Dangeresque: Private Eye, Crooked Cop, Secret Agent and Celebrity Pharmacist

by Zonis on Feb 24, 2006 2:15 AM PST up reply actions  

teach him
to change speeds and location but please no curveballs till HS
ohio roots

by nickatt7 on Feb 24, 2006 2:30 AM PST reply actions  

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