The Ads! The Ads!
They're driving me crazy, to be honest.
Expirimenting with new ads gone haywire, and honestly I am hoping none of them stay.
A top banner ad doesn't fit on the site layout design. And an ad at the end of each diary is very annoying as well-more likely to result in people disliking the company imo.
I don't mind ads on the sides, as that is the layout of the site, but please: enough with the flashy ads in distracting places. Please?
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I second that.
:/
by Boonee on Nov 7, 2006 5:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm fine with them
by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 5:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Zonis--are you up for
<disclaimer: I have no actual first-hand knowledge of how the finances on AN work, just knowledge of how finances work in business in general>
by Nico on Nov 7, 2006 5:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You don't have to be so threatening about it.
It's plain to anybody paying attention that AN will soon offer a subscription package for those who don't care to see the ads, just like DailyKos. While I don't blame Blez for making money off a venture he's worked hard to create, the site users have every right to bitch and moan about changes. Why? Because Blez isn't the only thing that keeps people coming back to AN. Many of AN's unique features are brainchildren of the users who spend their time here: monkeyball's poetry, grover's trade diaries, everybody's link dump, Alameda Greg's Rules 101, saint's enthusiasm.
Blez has worked hard to build this site and I am appreciative of that fact. He can do what he wants with the layout. But the reason that stuff like this prompts strong reaction is because the site users feel like this site partially belongs to them. They are justified in feeling that because they helped build this community. Comments like yours are plain old lame.
by salb918 on Nov 7, 2006 6:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well said.
by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 6:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Comments like his are also right.
Anyone actually paying attention to dKos will notice they added a top banner ad this month as a means of bringing in more revenue. Clearly that's what Blez is toying with here.
And rather than getting all uppity about it, perhaps we should be embracing the fact that for a milisecond of our eye time, the site will get bigger, better, and have more upgrades down the road.
by Ozzz on Nov 7, 2006 6:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I Disagree
People will purchase convenience.
OTOH, I'm all for capitalism, and I like it when idealists realize that.
So here's to a paid subscription (be it through banner ads or PayPal), and here's to market competition to SBN.
by Dan_Honolulu on Nov 7, 2006 6:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm.
by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 6:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course not.
by salb918 on Nov 7, 2006 7:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not limited to AN.
by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 7:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough.
by salb918 on Nov 7, 2006 7:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Did I say he did?
by Ozzz on Nov 7, 2006 7:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
salb, I don't know what's up
by Nico on Nov 7, 2006 7:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh come on Nico...
by DMOAS on Nov 7, 2006 7:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I fail to see the humor
Hey, you're right!
by Nico on Nov 7, 2006 8:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want a snarkfest with you either.
Simple: we used to talk about things that you and I agreed upon. Now we don't. Doesn't mean I don't enjoy most of your thoughts and comments. And I'm certainly not trying to pick a fight with you.
by salb918 on Nov 7, 2006 8:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
by Nico on Nov 7, 2006 8:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's it.
by salb918 on Nov 7, 2006 8:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, I don't love the A's.
by salb918 on Nov 7, 2006 8:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
101101011101,
OK, that last thing was a bit over the top. Possibly a CVG. Sorry. But I totally stand by "101101011101".
by Nico on Nov 7, 2006 8:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
<whacks sal with a cricket bat>
by monkeyball on Nov 8, 2006 9:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not threatening, perhaps.
by jeepers on Nov 8, 2006 7:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
While I certainly want Blez to get stinkin rich ..
It would be much better if it were moved up or the comments were moved up and text was wrapped around it so it looks like a normal ad in a newspaper or something.
by devo on Nov 8, 2006 10:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
if this site
by skwid on Nov 8, 2006 11:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Richard Tarrant, maybe?
by monkeyball on Nov 8, 2006 12:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bernie!!!!
(Went to grade school with one of Tarrant's daughter. Yeah...I got a piece. So what?)
by capper3 on Nov 8, 2006 4:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
VT is SUCH a small state!
by monkeyball on Nov 8, 2006 5:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think
I don't really have a problem unless we get click-through ads or ESPN style ads.
by mikeA on Nov 7, 2006 6:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The ones that jump in front of you
by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 6:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And believe me
by Tyler Bleszinski on Nov 7, 2006 6:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm all for you making as much money ...
I just wish the ads were better integrated into the site so that they don't create huge white blocks.
by devo on Nov 8, 2006 10:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
flat-out nieve
by monkeyball on Nov 8, 2006 10:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The truth is that
We're trying to make them as unobtrusive as possible, but we can't move the top banner ad. That's the one advertisers are paying the most for right now. We're going to try and make it more seamless in the coming weeks and less obtrusive, but for now, it's going to stay the way it is. As for the ads in the middle of the post, well, I thought those were pretty obscure and advertisers also love those for some strange reason.
Just have some patience, people. Please.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Nov 7, 2006 6:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the information.
It's no surprise to me that they love the placement of the diary ads so much. They get seen very easily; your eye thinks it's part of the content of the diary.
by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 6:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's OK
We're going to try and make them less obtrusive, but these might be what we're stuck with for a little while. We're hoping that the funds from the advertising will allow us to completely revamp our sites once again and really make them even better.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Nov 7, 2006 6:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Understood.
I think part of the reason people reacted today is that people don't like surprises. Without warning, they saw the ads and starting thinking:
- Oh my GOD! Blez has sold out to teh MAN!
- Don't make me get an AN chip implant?? OK?????
- Blez is trying to make me teh librul.
- Nico has hacked the site so he can promulgate his goat-wing agenda.
by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 6:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Re #2
by Jennifer on Nov 7, 2006 6:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's rich with cupcake goodness.
by jeepers on Nov 7, 2006 6:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Chocolate Chip Cookies
by Amnesiac727 on Nov 7, 2006 7:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Too late
by grover on Nov 7, 2006 7:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
<slits wrists>
by Jennifer on Nov 7, 2006 7:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You should slit grover's wrists.
by salb918 on Nov 7, 2006 7:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's one way to lose weight
Cut off your head.
:P
by grover on Nov 7, 2006 7:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The surprise factor
I just hope the top banner ad will stop screwing up the formating of the site on my browser. :-/ Damn you, IE!
"No. It's Oakland."
by Kyli on Nov 7, 2006 11:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I really don't like the big box post ad
A slim banner ad that centers itself and doesn't distort the page, under the post.
And please, in those slots, do not do moving or flashy ads. They are especially distracting when right where you usually read.
by Zonis on Nov 7, 2006 6:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you used Firefox, you can turn the ads off.
by Ozzz on Nov 7, 2006 6:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Firefox
So there is an easy solution, and, as HollywoodOz points out, it comes with significant other benefits too :-)
by green star oakland on Nov 7, 2006 7:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
significant other benefits?
by monkeyball on Nov 8, 2006 9:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
<moves to Utah>
by monkeyball on Nov 8, 2006 12:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Buys "Big Love" Season 1 on DVD.
by salb918 on Nov 8, 2006 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
been meaning to check that one out
by monkeyball on Nov 8, 2006 5:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Haven't seen Rome.
by salb918 on Nov 8, 2006 6:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just killing time until Shield s5 comes out
by monkeyball on Nov 8, 2006 6:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We've just done the first season of Rome
by green star oakland on Nov 8, 2006 7:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I rather enjoyed Rome
by ArakSOT on Nov 9, 2006 7:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It was OK
And it has to compete - in my mind - with I, Claudius, which is up with the best of what the BBC used to be able to do.
by green star oakland on Nov 9, 2006 9:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like epics about historical suckers.
by salb918 on Nov 9, 2006 11:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Like the lesser-known BBC series
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Nov 9, 2006 11:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hence, being an A's fan
by ArakSOT on Nov 9, 2006 11:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
by DMOAS on Nov 7, 2006 6:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Incidentally, as a Netscape user..
by Ozzz on Nov 7, 2006 6:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't want to complain either,
by Boonee on Nov 7, 2006 6:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
What BURGER KING ads NIKE on MSNBC.COM a.n.?
by monkeyball on Nov 7, 2006 6:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Once the ads take hold
by Tyler Bleszinski on Nov 7, 2006 6:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
easy there, big fella
And quite frankly, if this evening keeps progressing in the "real world" as the projections are indicating, you could shutter AN and I wouldn't care. :)
by monkeyball on Nov 7, 2006 7:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"actually literally"?
Can you figuratively see the ads?
by mikeA on Nov 7, 2006 8:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm...I'm pretty sure
by Nico on Nov 7, 2006 8:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
<Gay adverbs
<Shamelessly brings politics to AN on a glorious evening.>
by mikeA on Nov 7, 2006 9:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm str8tarrow...
by str8tarrow on Nov 8, 2006 10:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm so easily confused
Blez, I love the site and I don't mind you putting ads in to make a buck. I don't click on any of them because I don't care about the products and/or they aren't showing enough skin. If you start charging admission I'm fuckin' gone. I can't be any more fair than that.
Love,
grover
by grover on Nov 7, 2006 7:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think we realize that
by Tyler Bleszinski on Nov 7, 2006 9:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
admission: no
by monkeyball on Nov 8, 2006 9:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Can someone help me out?
Thanks, sorry blez...
by OaklandInvader on Nov 7, 2006 9:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Just go to preferences
by green star oakland on Nov 7, 2006 9:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Firefox add-on for flash ads
General comment for anyone who might be uncomfortable with installing Firefox add-ons: If they cause you any trouble, just go to Tools-->Add-Ons to temporarily disable them or to uninstall them.
by beachbum98 on Nov 7, 2006 11:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Upgrade to FireFox 2.0
by eamb on Nov 8, 2006 7:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Blocking the ads is not
by salb918 on Nov 8, 2006 8:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure what ad model
by eamb on Nov 8, 2006 8:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Makes sense.
by jeepers on Nov 8, 2006 8:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also...
Same with Flashblock which I mentioned above; in that case you right-click on the blocked flash content to disable for that site. Flashblock does block some legitimate content, such as the lead story on oaklandathletics.com, as well as ads.
by beachbum98 on Nov 8, 2006 9:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Form vs. function
by slobberknocker on Nov 7, 2006 9:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
don't mind the ads
by ucla kid on Nov 8, 2006 12:04 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
could care less about the ads
by batgirl on Nov 9, 2006 1:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Christ, what an [this space for rent].
by McFood on Nov 9, 2006 1:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
by TheCatch on Nov 9, 2006 2:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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