The Ads! The Ads!
They're driving me crazy, to be honest.
Expirimenting with new ads gone haywire, and honestly I am hoping none of them stay.
A top banner ad doesn't fit on the site layout design. And an ad at the end of each diary is very annoying as well-more likely to result in people disliking the company imo.
I don't mind ads on the sides, as that is the layout of the site, but please: enough with the flashy ads in distracting places. Please?
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I second that.
:/
I'm fine with them
Zonis--are you up for
<disclaimer: I have no actual first-hand knowledge of how the finances on AN work, just knowledge of how finances work in business in general>
You don't have to be so threatening about it.
It's plain to anybody paying attention that AN will soon offer a subscription package for those who don't care to see the ads, just like DailyKos. While I don't blame Blez for making money off a venture he's worked hard to create, the site users have every right to bitch and moan about changes. Why? Because Blez isn't the only thing that keeps people coming back to AN. Many of AN's unique features are brainchildren of the users who spend their time here: monkeyball's poetry, grover's trade diaries, everybody's link dump, Alameda Greg's Rules 101, saint's enthusiasm.
Blez has worked hard to build this site and I am appreciative of that fact. He can do what he wants with the layout. But the reason that stuff like this prompts strong reaction is because the site users feel like this site partially belongs to them. They are justified in feeling that because they helped build this community. Comments like yours are plain old lame.
Well said.
Comments like his are also right.
Anyone actually paying attention to dKos will notice they added a top banner ad this month as a means of bringing in more revenue. Clearly that's what Blez is toying with here.
And rather than getting all uppity about it, perhaps we should be embracing the fact that for a milisecond of our eye time, the site will get bigger, better, and have more upgrades down the road.
I Disagree
People will purchase convenience.
OTOH, I'm all for capitalism, and I like it when idealists realize that.
So here's to a paid subscription (be it through banner ads or PayPal), and here's to market competition to SBN.
Hmm.
It's not limited to AN.
Fair enough.
Did I say he did?
salb, I don't know what's up
Oh come on Nico...
I fail to see the humor
Hey, you're right!
I don't want a snarkfest with you either.
Simple: we used to talk about things that you and I agreed upon. Now we don't. Doesn't mean I don't enjoy most of your thoughts and comments. And I'm certainly not trying to pick a fight with you.
Fair enough
Also, I don't love the A's.
101101011101,
OK, that last thing was a bit over the top. Possibly a CVG. Sorry. But I totally stand by "101101011101".
Not threatening, perhaps.
While I certainly want Blez to get stinkin rich ..
It would be much better if it were moved up or the comments were moved up and text was wrapped around it so it looks like a normal ad in a newspaper or something.
if this site
Bernie!!!!
(Went to grade school with one of Tarrant's daughter. Yeah...I got a piece. So what?)
VT is SUCH a small state!
I think
I don't really have a problem unless we get click-through ads or ESPN style ads.
The ones that jump in front of you
And believe me
by Tyler Bleszinski on Nov 7, 2006 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
I'm all for you making as much money ...
I just wish the ads were better integrated into the site so that they don't create huge white blocks.
flat-out nieve
The truth is that
We're trying to make them as unobtrusive as possible, but we can't move the top banner ad. That's the one advertisers are paying the most for right now. We're going to try and make it more seamless in the coming weeks and less obtrusive, but for now, it's going to stay the way it is. As for the ads in the middle of the post, well, I thought those were pretty obscure and advertisers also love those for some strange reason.
Just have some patience, people. Please.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Nov 7, 2006 6:14 PM PST reply actions
Thanks for the information.
It's no surprise to me that they love the placement of the diary ads so much. They get seen very easily; your eye thinks it's part of the content of the diary.
That's OK
We're going to try and make them less obtrusive, but these might be what we're stuck with for a little while. We're hoping that the funds from the advertising will allow us to completely revamp our sites once again and really make them even better.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Nov 7, 2006 6:22 PM PST up reply actions
Understood.
I think part of the reason people reacted today is that people don't like surprises. Without warning, they saw the ads and starting thinking:
- Oh my GOD! Blez has sold out to teh MAN!
- Don't make me get an AN chip implant?? OK?????
- Blez is trying to make me teh librul.
- Nico has hacked the site so he can promulgate his goat-wing agenda.
Re #2
It's rich with cupcake goodness.
Chocolate Chip Cookies
by Amnesiac727 on Nov 7, 2006 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
You should slit grover's wrists.
That's one way to lose weight
Cut off your head.
:P
The surprise factor
I just hope the top banner ad will stop screwing up the formating of the site on my browser. :-/ Damn you, IE!
"No. It's Oakland."
I really don't like the big box post ad
A slim banner ad that centers itself and doesn't distort the page, under the post.
And please, in those slots, do not do moving or flashy ads. They are especially distracting when right where you usually read.
If you used Firefox, you can turn the ads off.
Firefox
So there is an easy solution, and, as HollywoodOz points out, it comes with significant other benefits too :-)
by green star oakland on Nov 7, 2006 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
significant other benefits?
been meaning to check that one out
Haven't seen Rome.
I'm just killing time until Shield s5 comes out
We've just done the first season of Rome
by green star oakland on Nov 8, 2006 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
I rather enjoyed Rome
It was OK
And it has to compete - in my mind - with I, Claudius, which is up with the best of what the BBC used to be able to do.
by green star oakland on Nov 9, 2006 9:24 AM PST up reply actions
Like the lesser-known BBC series
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Nov 9, 2006 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
hence, being an A's fan
Agree
Incidentally, as a Netscape user..
I didn't want to complain either,
What BURGER KING ads NIKE on MSNBC.COM a.n.?
Once the ads take hold
by Tyler Bleszinski on Nov 7, 2006 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
easy there, big fella
And quite frankly, if this evening keeps progressing in the "real world" as the projections are indicating, you could shutter AN and I wouldn't care. :)
Hmm...I'm pretty sure
<Gay adverbs
<Shamelessly brings politics to AN on a glorious evening.>
I'm str8tarrow...
I'm so easily confused
Blez, I love the site and I don't mind you putting ads in to make a buck. I don't click on any of them because I don't care about the products and/or they aren't showing enough skin. If you start charging admission I'm fuckin' gone. I can't be any more fair than that.
Love,
grover
I think we realize that
by Tyler Bleszinski on Nov 7, 2006 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
admission: no
Can someone help me out?
Thanks, sorry blez...
Just go to preferences
by green star oakland on Nov 7, 2006 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
Firefox add-on for flash ads
General comment for anyone who might be uncomfortable with installing Firefox add-ons: If they cause you any trouble, just go to Tools-->Add-Ons to temporarily disable them or to uninstall them.
by beachbum98 on Nov 7, 2006 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
Upgrade to FireFox 2.0
Blocking the ads is not
Not sure what ad model
Makes sense.
Also...
Same with Flashblock which I mentioned above; in that case you right-click on the blocked flash content to disable for that site. Flashblock does block some legitimate content, such as the lead story on oaklandathletics.com, as well as ads.
by beachbum98 on Nov 8, 2006 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
Form vs. function
don't mind the ads
by ucla kid on Nov 8, 2006 12:04 AM PST reply actions

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