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Around SBN: An Indy 500 Rookie's Impressions

AN Confessional

Post your sins and receive your penance!

Star-divide

(Stolen from AAR's "Liberal Confessional")...

At Saturday's game, I found myself near a pair of idiotic A's haters -- guys who are sure that Kendall's gone next year due to his contract, no one was any good because Rogers and the Rangers were in the process of winning their one game out of four, and the whole team was going to be lifeless and sluglike due to the lack of Eric Byrnes. (Never mind Payton's homer, dammit, he also had a GIDP. Sheesh.)

Between the heat, the idiocy, and the score...

I wound up leaving the game early, before the big comeback. All so that I could get to an earlier showing of "Willy Wonka" with my kid. And for this, I need closure.

I can't imagine that I'm the only who has sinned against the A's. Does your soul cry out for absolution from your bandwagon jumping? Do you switch off to the Giants game when the score isn't close? Have you coveted your neighbor's free agents?

Confess and be cleansed!

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I text everyone I knew
when Harden had a perfect gem going that Harden was throwing a no-hitter.  Then Soriano came up to bat.

I also secretly wish the A's would stop getting pretty white boys to play a man's game.  Even if those boys are fricking awesome at it.

Change is for the better. For both the A's and in life.

by WhiteElephantGuy on Jul 18, 2005 12:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Your penance is...
to spend 7 and 1/3rd innings of the next A's game in total silence from your fellow fans.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I did
and by the time I could say something, all they did was lose the lead and the game 5-2.  Depressing.
Change is for the better. For both the A's and in life.

by WhiteElephantGuy on Jul 19, 2005 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry,,,
but the individual penance of A's fans can never be assumed to be so great as to change the mojo for the team.

However, neither can we really afford to take the chance...

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 19, 2005 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

one minor sin with immediate punishment
The wife and I were at the Ramon walk-off-bunt Boston Game 1. As soon as he did it, we jumped out of our seats screaming! Then we realized, holy cow, there are going to be 50,000 fans running for BART at the same time, let's make a break for it. So we bolted up the stairs and were running around the oval, totally pumped up, and we realized that we were so revved up we ran the wrong direction, the way you can't get to BART. Doh. So we ended up caught in the big jam anyway and we missed the huge on-field celebration and pile-up for nothing.

by Apricot on Jul 18, 2005 1:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Penance waived.
In the opinion of this neutral observer, you missed no part of the actual game, so your sin was marginal at best.
"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 1:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

thanks
yeah, talk about your instant karma...

by Apricot on Jul 18, 2005 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

re
I thought the A's were done in May, and I wrote about it every day in my (loose) journal of the season.

I feel so bad about that now, seriously.

by 31Boots on Jul 18, 2005 1:07 AM PDT reply actions  

A common sin -- lack of faith.
One in which we all grapple.

Fitting penance would include a re-reading of "Moneyball", or working up your own fresh VORP calculation for all parties the Hudson and Mulder trades. Choose whichever would make you feel more at peace.

Now go, and sin no more...

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 1:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I guess
I don't participate in much baseball discussion besides fangirl stuff because I'm afraid of being shot down by men. I've been heavily into baseball since I was a kid and now I'm in my 20's and I am still afraid of participating in Real baseball discussion, even though I know I could hold my own. I'm just not a stathead and I don't have the memory for being a fan so I become discouraged. I feel like I'm letting girls down by not doing my part.

In May, I gave up hope. I feel really awful about that.

There's still that part of me that fears we'll never make it past the first round of the playoffs whenever we make the playoffs.

I hate Rincon and I can't be convinced otherwise. I feel like a traitor to the team but I just despise him and Keith Ginter.

I don't give new guys a chance very easily.

There's no crying in baseball but I've broken that rule many times.

Sometimes when we're down by a lot, I give up on games. I never turn them off, though. I think I've been converted to optimism by the last 2 games and Fosse.

I think Adam the ballboy is ugly.

This list is getting long so I'm going to stop.

by rookieoftheyear on Jul 18, 2005 1:10 AM PDT reply actions  

dont worry
i think adam is ugly too. lol.
California here I come, right back where I started from, Californiaaaaa, Californiaaaaa, here I coooooome (June 24th). (OC, i was inspired)

by ohad on Jul 18, 2005 1:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

The most serious sin...
is to allow intimidation by males, whether it is actual or theoretical, to limit your enjoyment.

You're not responsible for your gender, and your opinions are valid even if you're not a stathead or memory freak.

Your penance is a month of reading Susan Slusser.

Now go, and sin no more...

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 1:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

a brief guide to men
Keep your head up rookie!
  1. Men (not boys) in general find women who are real baseball fans very attractive. Real means getting upset when a team loses, not knowing everyone's Win Shares.
  2. Most men (especially boys) talk out of their butts about everything. Studies show (no kidding) that men consistently overrate what they know about topics and women consistently underrate. Notice on AN how many men talk with definitiveness about stuff they have no way of knowing. (Key phrases: "I guarantee...", "Write it down...", "You all haven't accepted yet that...", "None of you realize that...")
  3. And notice how often they are COMPLETELY wrong. And notice how they very rarely go back and assess, and instead go forward by making another outrageous claim. Because the guiding principle isn't saying what you know, it's who can yap the loudest and most outrageous way.
  4. To compensate for #2, most men deal with conventional opinions, and the only variation is in how much enthusiasm and obnoxiousness and fake definitiveness they use.
So it's up to you whether to engage with male discussions, but don't be kidded that they know as much as they pretend.

I should save a copy of this note for my daughter when she gets older!

(For the purposes of this note, assume that I'm not blowing smoke myself, otherwise you get into weird logical paradoxes.)

by Apricot on Jul 18, 2005 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

yep
maybe someday you'll let her take a ride on your llama?

by Apricot on Jul 18, 2005 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

She is adorable!
Aw! I want a baby!

Not really. :P Maybe for a few hours, then I'd send it back to the parents.

by Jennifer on Jul 18, 2005 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

maybe some
frozen custard can smooth the way...

by Apricot on Jul 18, 2005 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

You and the custard! :P
Custard won't keep you warm at night! (Unless the frozen custard is covering Travis Buck. Then he'd keep you warm... but then it would also keep up all night!)

by Jennifer on Jul 18, 2005 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey
Thanks a lot. :) I still haven't found any of those men who appreciate women who like baseball but I'll keep looking. Seems they appreciate girls in not much clothing who are wondering how the team just scored a "point" a lot more, but whatever.

Nice advice and you should definitely give a note to your daughter. That's cute. :)

by rookieoftheyear on Jul 18, 2005 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

(Hint: there's a site full of 'em here.)
"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 19, 2005 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Absolution
Recite this prayer and your transgressions against the Oakland Church of Baseball will be absolved.
"so what was it? the pork chop or the booty???" -rly723

by secret ASian man on Jul 18, 2005 1:33 AM PDT reply actions  

I HATED listening to Bill King as a teen
Granted, I haven't listened to him call a game in over 15 years, so I can't be sure if he's changed and, come to think of it, it's been a long time since committing this sin...though I still had yet to confess it until now.

Bill King had the annoying habit of making the opponents deep drives over the fence sound as though they'd be routinely caught at the warning track.  At the last moment he'd tell us it was gone by using a tone that can only be described as though he was scratching his head while contemplating, "how in the world to that one leave the yard".  To make matter worse, he used to make the Athletics' players fly balls to the outfield sound as though they were being mashed.  I recall many a night (some days, too) leaning into the radio to hear the call of one of our beloved players going yard only to have the ball reeled in by one of the opposing outfielders near the wall...Bill King was maddening!

Different sin

There was this one game where I went with a group of friends and we sat in the bleachers.  We were getting rowdy and I threw some ice at one of the guys who I was with.  Bad move!  Even though we were joking around and it was all good-natured fun, the coliseum security guy, standing about fifty feet away and watching, did not share our amusement.  I, alone, was punted from the game and had to meet up with my friends later.  I can't remember if the game was tied or if the Athletics were losing, all I remember is that I watched Oakland's Billy Beane rope a rare double off the centerfield fence and it helped (or maybe just did) win the game - I saw it all through the wood-slotted chain-linked fence by near the BART walkover bridge.  Back in those days, the phrase, "in Billy we trust" would have been laughable.

http://www.cafehayek.com ~ a blog for classical liberals

by LowcountryJoe on Jul 18, 2005 3:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Failure to recognize the King gets you...
3 innings of listening to Hank Greenwald do a road game in Texas, without the benefit of caffiene. (It might have been more, but I'm sure that King's gotten better with time.)

As for getting punted, no penance. As so frequently happens in baseball, the game meted out rough justice quickly.

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I left a game early
It was the game in Seattle last year that ended in Duke's so-called balk.  I was beginning to think the game was not going to end and had to get up in a few hours, so I watched the end on tv.  Somehow I think that if one more A's fan was there, they might have won.  :(

by lexi on Jul 18, 2005 6:09 AM PDT reply actions  

For the sin...
of incomplete fealty, you are required to mock Ichiro's stretching exercises at a future A's-Mariners game. Hopefully, on camera.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I cry your pardon!
Back in spring of 2002, I left a game early so I could be on time meeting my girlfriend for dinner in the city.  The A's were down by two runs going into the bottom of the ninth, with Percival ready to mow down the bottom of the A's lineup.

Watching the game with two of my buddies, they slung some predictable names at me as I was leaving (with some whipping sound effects thrown in).  Turns out, the bastards were right: Greg Myers slammed a 3-run homer off Percy to win it in the bottom of the ninth.

I learned my lesson though, I'll never leave another baseball game early, no matter how in-the-bag it seems.

by nickolai on Jul 18, 2005 7:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Penance waived.
"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Blez me father, for I have sinned
  • I have ruined two -- count 'em, two -- Saag's "Got Green"/"Got Gold" rally towels cleaning up common (and uncommon) household spills
  • I have expressed admiration for Alex Rodriguez as a baseball player and as a human being
  • I have never thrown a chair in anger
  • I have coveted my neighbor's Extra Innings package
  • I have taken Billy Beane's name in vain (I broke into his mailbox, stole a MasterCard pre-approval application, sent it in with his name and my address, and used the card to order the "Outfielders With Extreme Platoon Splits Gone Wild" videotape; when the tape arrived, the feds arrested me for identity theft)
Laugh while you can, monkeyboy!

by monkeyball on Jul 18, 2005 7:27 AM PDT reply actions  

A lot to get through here.
  1. Rally towels that bear the names of sponsors are not truly holy in the eyes of this fan. Having said that, I do hope that you burned them in a respectful manner.
  2. As A-Rod has rarely caused the A's any significant grief, and is emblematic of an era of failure for the Yankees, admiration is a minor sin. If your soul cries out for succor, place a baseball in your left hand, and slap it out of your grip with your right hand, until the shame passes.
  3. No one wins with domestic furniture abuse.
  4. The path to true fandom does not require Extra Innings packages. For penance, you must stare at your computer screen while MLB Gameday fails to update during an A's game, without cursing.
  5. Taking BB's name in vain is a grave sin indeed. For penance, you must repeat the act, but with Billy Bean, the ex-MLBer who has admitted his homosexuality. Then, you must make full amends to the Bean family, all while repeatedly saying, "Not that there is anything wrong with that."
Now go, and sin no more!
"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

So what you're saying is ...
... I can throw imported chairs?
Laugh while you can, monkeyboy!

by monkeyball on Jul 18, 2005 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Depending on where the chair is made.
"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here we go...
I own more Yankee paraphernalia than I do A's.

I didn't really like Eric Byrnes.

I've never heard Bill King call a game.

Finally...

Huston Street isn't my favorite pitcher.

by Jennifer on Jul 18, 2005 7:38 AM PDT reply actions  

How is it possible
that you've never heard Bill King call a game? If you're an A's fan, that IS a sin. You must not live out here, but now you've got no excuse.  Use your computer to listen to the game.  If you always watch on TV turn off the sound and listen to King and Korach.  I go to 40 or more games a year, and listen to the rest because I don't have a TV.  Give the radio a chance. Bill's a lot of fun to listen to, and Ken is the best in the business (IMO).

by Brian in 317 on Jul 18, 2005 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's sad.
I don't live in CA, and I'm too cheap to purchase both MLB audio and EI.

<runs to hide from the people carrying torches>

by Jennifer on Jul 18, 2005 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

mlb audio
I don't know how long this has been going on, but you can get free mlb audio if you apply for a free trial offer from SI. You can cancel anytime during the trial offer, and keep the mlb audio.

You have to listen to King.

by Sharon on Jul 18, 2005 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

no! :(
Bill King is so awesome...

by Sharon on Jul 18, 2005 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think it would work...
... on my computer at home anyway. When you say "broadband" to our ISP guy, he thinks it's someone that plays both Lynard Skynard and Bob Seger tunes.

by Jennifer on Jul 18, 2005 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

mlb audio will work fine
if you don't have broadband.

I'm sending you an email very soon.

by Sharon on Jul 18, 2005 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

and by the way
Huston Street isn't my favorite pitcher either.

Funny. But he is my favorite phenom rookie closer.

:P

by Sharon on Jul 18, 2005 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Easily absolved
Send a money order to my A's Evangilical Org to support my work in the frontier and fund homegame visits.

by ak_A on Jul 18, 2005 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ahem
I think I have almost the exact sin line as you.

I own more Yankee parphernailia than I do A's.

I liked Byrnes, but wasn't ga-ga over him and thought he was somewhat ugly.

I've never heard Bill King call a game.

I've never seen the A's play live.

And Huston Street is only ONE of my fav players.

Jennifer...he ISN'T? I would NEVER have guessed. Seriously. Who is, then? :D

by Squeaky on Jul 18, 2005 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

As the earlier replies show...
only the lack of fealty to the King is a major offense, though the Yankee paraphenalia is a serious matter than will need to be dealt with, especially in the event of an upcoming playoff.

For penance, take measures to hear the King. If you fail to do this within one month's time, you must endure nine innings of Hank Greenwald, without caffeine, while remaining awake.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

For Shame, For Shame...
My favorite pitcher isn't on the A's. Worse he is on the Sox. Tim Wakefield throws a knukleball
and I love knukleballs. Bradford was a close second but now he is on the Sox too...

I also have never heard Bill King. (for the same reasons as Jennifer)

I don't own anything A's related other than some old baseball cards and my copy of Moneyball. This will change soon though :)

Bruce Campbell deserves his own national holiday.

by pbruins92 on Jul 18, 2005 8:46 AM PDT reply actions  

partial penance
you must become a Steve Sparks devotee for a year. Find a Sparks bobblehead. If you cannot find one, you must make one.

ps. I think knuckleballers are cool too.

by Apricot on Jul 18, 2005 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

you knuckleball fans
There was a fantastic article in the New Yorker around May of 2004 about knuckleballers.  It was a really good read.  Check your local library archives.
"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King

by batgirl on Jul 18, 2005 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

what is this 'library' you speak of
I found parts of the article online: original article and Online-only Q&A.

GREAT tip. Thanks!

by Apricot on Jul 18, 2005 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome Article
thanks for the link
Bruce Campbell deserves his own national holiday.

by pbruins92 on Jul 18, 2005 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your sin is...
that you respect process more than results. True A's fans respect the former, but revere the latter.

As penance for this and your lack of A's items, you must obtain an A's jersey with CANDIOTTI on the back, in "honor" of the man's 250 mostly unsuccessful innings with the team.

The shirt should not be comfortable.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I had to eat dinner with my girlfriend's parents
after the 7th inning of Zeeeeetoooeeee's no no.  These people aren't the type to huddle around the TV for dinner.
"This," Kendall said, "is why I catch."

by carp on Jul 18, 2005 8:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Penance waived.
Justice was meted out that evening, alongside the entree. And justice is a dish that does not allow the use of condiments.
"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Penance
I left the following games early because they were night games and I was cold:

--against the ChiSox earlier this year when the A's were down 7-4 (came back and won)
--opening night of '04 with the A's down by two late (came back and won)

I also left game five of the 02 divisional series after Koch gave up the blast. Oh well, the A's lost anyway.

In general, I can't bear to watch the A's lose, so I'll turn off a game if they are down to far (and sneak peaks)

I don't ever wear A's gear except to games because I think its a little wierd (at least for a girl).

I wouldn't be caught dead at an autograph signing.

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -- Gil Meche

by Alien @ Athletics Nation on Jul 18, 2005 9:07 AM PDT reply actions  

HAHA
"I don't ever wear A's gear except to games because I think its a little wierd (at least for a girl)."

That's why everyone thinks I'm a lesbian. ;( because I DO wear my A's gear outside of games.

by rookieoftheyear on Jul 18, 2005 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

exactly
In HS I'm pretty sure everyone thought I was a lesbian. Its funny how its okay for a girl to want to watch baseball to look at ass (just an added bonus), but its not okay for us actually to like baseball as a sport
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -- Gil Meche

by Alien @ Athletics Nation on Jul 18, 2005 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

exactly!
it pisses me off so much! i tell people i'm a huge a's fan and they're like, okay... but if i add - for the judgmental person's benefit - that they're hot, suddenly it all makes sense to them. but this also degrades me - and all female fans. so basically, either way, we're misunderstood.

and then it doesn't help that guys especially seem to think that we're all only interested in baseball because of the hot guys. i've had multiple times where i'm at a game with a friend (male or female) and maybe i'll be explaining something about the game, or just be talking about baseball, etc., and a man in front of us will turn around and say to me, "Wow, you know a lot about baseball." And at first I'm really happy, because someone recognizes that I know the game. But then I just become upset, because why should that be a surprise? If I was a guy, they wouldn't be surprised.

it just pisses me off.

"...the plate won't move. The mound is going to feel the same. The strike zone, with slight variations, is going to be right where it has always been." -Huston

by sabriel on Jul 18, 2005 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

No penance.
But please consider the possibility that the straight guys are just annoyed that they don't get the added benefit of titillation that you do.
"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wish I could do that
even. I usually try and explain stuff but always make it sound dumb by being like "I'm not sure, but..." or "My Dad would know, but here's what I think..." just because I'm so afraid. Lame!!

I don't ever mention liking the hotness but I usually try and explain I grew up around the sport. If someone else brings up the hotness, I don't deny it. :P

by rookieoftheyear on Jul 18, 2005 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've been out of HS
for a few years and everyone still thinks I'm a lesbian because apparently baseball or sports fan who is female = automatic lesbian! Who knew? Ugh.

by rookieoftheyear on Jul 18, 2005 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

i went to an all-girls high school
so try going to college and telling people you went to an all-girls school and you're a baseball fan. yeah.

on the other hand, i've made some of my really close guy friends because of baseball, simply because no baseball fan ever turns down an opportunity to talk baseball. and as you get to know each other, they'll figure out that you're straight AND you know what you're talking about, and voila, you have another friend. ;-)

i'm not very articulate today, but yeah.

"...the plate won't move. The mound is going to feel the same. The strike zone, with slight variations, is going to be right where it has always been." -Huston

by sabriel on Jul 18, 2005 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some penance here.
But not for avoiding autograph sessions. True fandom does not require personal interaction.

The lack of A's gear is also a minor sin, but only if you have back-up totems (aka, lucky shirts, you were something that's green or gold, or maybe a hat). If you do not have such an item, acquire one, and track it's win-loss percentage. If it fails you, you may need to replace it.

For the sin of incomplete faith and overreacting to losses, you must acquire a highlight tape of any the A's championship seasons, and watch it until you can truly visualize the A's winning it all. Only then will you have the serenity to know that any defeat is temporary, and the eventual victory will be made all the sweeter by withstanding occasional bitterness.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I might get the award for most recent sin.
My mom is visiting from Southern California.  She enjoys the A's and we'd been to all four games of this homestand.  We'd made plans to meet my cousin for dinner in San Mateo at 5:00.  At 4:30 I made the decision to leave the ball park, even though it was breaking my heart.  I never leave early, and I mean never.  We drove over the San Mateo bridge, listening to the game, and when we exited the freeway in the 14th inning I told my mom I'd have to stay in the car and listen (even though we were already 10-15 minutes late for dinner).  Well, I don't have to tell you that, just as we were pulling into our parking space at the restaurant, Kielty did his thing.  What perfect timing!  So, I decided I'm already absolved.  And I promise I'll never do it again.  

by skigurl on Jul 18, 2005 9:13 AM PDT reply actions  

penance
to make up for the hour you missed, you must go two hours early to a game and watch batting practice. At said game, you must find a way to deliver a note composed by AN to one A's player. Then you must buy garlic fries for your family and not eat any yourself.

Go forth and rock on.

by Apricot on Jul 18, 2005 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Passing a note
...could be pretty easy since I sit in 116 (hi skwid and jlaff).  So, start composing and I'll try to deliver.  As to the garlic fries, I love garlic but can't even stand the smell of those fries.  The only thing worse in the Coliseum is that fish and chips -- nasty!  

by skigurl on Jul 18, 2005 9:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Mmmm....Garlic
I love Garlic Fries.  But I swaer the Garlic Fries at SBC park are better than the Garlicn Fries in Oakland.  Perhaps that is my confession.

When I was a kid (around the '89 series) I was a "fan of both teams."  Forgive me.

After the strike I stopped following baseball altogether.  Forigive me.

When I started to return to the fold, A's games were only an excuse for me to get sloppy drunk.

But back to the topic of garlic.  The garlic bread I make is just awesome.  Bread with garlic spread, garlic and garlic salt on it.  It is awesome.

"so what was it? the pork chop or the booty???" -rly723

by secret ASian man on Jul 18, 2005 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

For the sin of using the A's...
as a cover for alcohol abuse, you must serve as a Designated Driver at a future A's game. But what's more, you must also go stand in line to buy the beers, tasting none for yourself. Only then will your soul be cleansed.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was at the A's
twentieth consecutive win and didn't see it.  We actually got there late, and I think the A's were already ahead 9-0 in the second inning when we got there.  Then, we sat through a horrible seven innings in which the Royals chipped and chipped away at our lead.  

I was still holding out hope that we'd win 11-10, with a save for Koch--but when he allowed that 11th run in the top of the ninth, I couldn't take it anymore.  "Let's go" I said to my non-baseball-fan companion, and we made our way over the BART pedestrian walkway to where my car was parked.  By the time we got there, the game was already over, history had been made.  Doh!

by rubin sierra on Jul 18, 2005 10:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Penance waived.
Baseball is the ultimate deliverer of justice.
"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Another sin...a cardinal sin
I have to confess - and it pains me to do so - that Gibson's 'bridge piece' off of Eckersley in '88 World Series was the most impressive and dramatic bit of baseball history that I have ever witnessed live as it was happening.  Though the conspiracy theorist in me is still telling me that Gibby's bat was corked.  Frame by frame that footage (if you can stomach it) and watch just how quickly that ball jumps off of the bat for what a feeble swing put into it!
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by LowcountryJoe on Jul 18, 2005 10:27 AM PDT reply actions  

This one is quite serious.
First, you must work to minimize the mythology of the moment in your mind. Watch Joe Carter's Series-ending home run. Become familiar with Bill Mazeroski's series-ender against the Yankees. And remember that as brutal as the Gibson homerun was, it was only Game 1. The devil will trick you into thinking that Gibson's homerun was the entire series. It was not.

Secondly, you must embrace Eckersley. He did win a WS with the team, and was the dominant reliever of his era. Acquire an Eckersley jersey, and if you ever have the opportunity, wear it to a game against the Dodgers (Giants game permissible). Do this until the Dodgers lose. Once they do, bury the Eckersley jersey in a respectful manner, toasting it with a valued beverage of your choice. Only then will your soul be cleansed.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Will someone tell ESPN that?
Maybe they wouldn't show that stinkin' homer so much... :P

But I do embrace the Eck. I had tears during Eck's Hall of Fame speech. He simply rocked.

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by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 18, 2005 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fr. Shooter,...
And remember that as brutal as the Gibson homerun was, it was only Game 1. The devil will trick you into thinking that Gibson's homerun was the entire series. It was not.

...with all respect to your judgment, and maybe it's just the devil inside me talking, this particular shot was one of those types of moments that can kill the spirit for the remainder of the series.  In fact, Father, these things of this maginitude can be deadly.  I have no doubt that you have studied meticulously at the seminary...do you recall the account of the Angel Donnie Moore?

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by LowcountryJoe on Jul 18, 2005 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Donnie Moore...
ended the series, and the Angeles' season. Gibson, as devastating as it was, gave the Dodgers a one game lead.

The biggest problem for the A's in that series was that it was the yar Orel Hershiser had sold his soul to the devil. His hell is known to all.

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Orel's penance:...
...Orel Hershiser had sold his soul to the devil. His hell is known to all.

...forever serve as the pitching coach for the Texas Rangers!  Yes, I do see now how the Lord works in his mysterious ways.

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by LowcountryJoe on Jul 19, 2005 5:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

That makes
ESPN the Devil
Bruce Campbell deserves his own national holiday.

by pbruins92 on Jul 19, 2005 5:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't have that many sins...
I've only ever left a game early once: and we were winning by a lot, and it was a really hot Sunday. I'd brought my sister, and she doesn't get baseball at all, and she was burning up and bored beyond belief, so we left after the bottom of the 8th and the A's won it of course. Of course, as we were waiting for bart, the game ended, so I made sure she knew we could have stayed for the 9th and still made the train.

I do have a few player sins though -

I passionately hated Justin Lehr and was glad when he was traded. At last year's Photo Day, I told him to keep up the great work (it was shortly after he'd been brought up and he'd been doing well), and he looked at me and said, "You don't even know who I am, do you?" I was too shocked and insulted to even respond, which I beat myself up for after. But I've hated him ever since.

I hate Rincon, and there's no way anything can change my mind. If possible, I blame every A's loss on him. I also know horror stories about him as a person, though I won't disclose them here.

Do those count as sins?

I have also broken the "there's no crying in baseball" rule multiple times.

"...the plate won't move. The mound is going to feel the same. The strike zone, with slight variations, is going to be right where it has always been." -Huston

by sabriel on Jul 18, 2005 10:56 AM PDT reply actions  

cynical Lehr and treacherous Rincon
After responding like that to a compliment, you really should've pretended that you had indeed mistaken him for, say, the Duke.  I'm glad he's done nothing for Milwaukee to make him think that he's becoming recognizable.  

As for Rincon, you've got my interest now.  Feel free to trust Cutthemullet and AN as a whole with any dirty little secrets that will make us cheer for a deadline exchange of LOOGYs.

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by Cutthemullet on Jul 18, 2005 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

please please
tell us the Rincon dirt!
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -- Gil Meche

by Alien @ Athletics Nation on Jul 18, 2005 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

since you insist ;-)
My friend (who couldn't care less about baseball and the A's) told me this story:

She has a friend is kind of a party girl. Somehow or other (she knew his brother-in-law or something), this girl ended up hanging out with Rincon and people (not A's people) in a hotel room. It ended up just being her, Rincon, and lots of booze, cocaine, and other drugs, etc. (Clearly, I'm up on the drug scene. hahaha) She maintains that she only drank. Whatever happened, Rincon tried to put the moves on her. (Remember, he's married with kids, apparently.) I don't remember whether or not anything actually happened, but he tried.

Afterwards, he called her all the time. He wanted to buy her expensive jewelry, and anything else. And he called incessantly. Did I mention that he called a lot? She finally had to change her cell phone number so he wouldn't call her anymore.

Don't know about you, but that doesn't exactly paint a nice picture for me, regardless of what this girl did.

"...the plate won't move. The mound is going to feel the same. The strike zone, with slight variations, is going to be right where it has always been." -Huston

by sabriel on Jul 18, 2005 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Penance waived.
And true fans know that there is crying in baseball, because baseball is life, and there is crying in life.
"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes
Especially after Singleton and Long struckout there most certainly is.

by Larry E on Jul 19, 2005 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

This has been bothering me for days
Last Thursday I went to the Coliseum to meet a friend who had tickets to the game.

I got there early and as I walked across the BART bridge, I thought, "My friend better not be late because I want to sit down before the first pitch. I like showing up early. You never know if you're going to watch a perfect game. And you'd want to see it from the beginning. I was never late for a Huddy start because, you never knew. Harden's pitching tonight. He could pitch a perfect game. He has it in him..."

I waited for 40 minutes. It was already 7:10 PM and I decided to line up for a ticket myself. All the other stragglers at the end of the BART bridge got in line and there was a lot of us.

I could hear the first inning end over the loudspeakers.

I overheard the guy behind me say, "By the time we get in, it'll be the fifth inning."

I hate going to games late. To me, it doesn't count if you're late.

So I walked away. Left my place in line, hopped on a BART train, and went home.

Where I caught up with the 5th inning on TV and Rich nursing a perfect game.

This is my sin:  when Soriano broke the perfect game, I was relieved.

Please forgive me!

I have faith.

by BillybUcko on Jul 18, 2005 11:22 AM PDT reply actions  

A grave sin.
You compounded your sin of pride (real fans try very hard not to be late, but are able to recover when circumstances do not allow this) with the sin of rooting against history for personal gain.

Your penance is to come to the next 5 games late. You may be in the stadium, but you are not to view the first pitch -- not even on a TV screen in the concourse area.

If at the end of the 5 games, you still feel that you would repeat the sin, you must do this for another 5 games.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, but I've watched a lot of movies.
"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

And stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night
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by lansfords1 on Jul 18, 2005 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

My sins
I watch the last out of every game I go to from the concourse area so I don't get caught up in the crowd

I think Bill King is a bad announcer (he calls plays so wrong)

For a year when I was seven, I was a Giants and Yankees fan

I think the Cardinals have the best uniforms in all of sports.

That's all I can think of; forgive me for my sins.

"Power is the great separator. You can manufacture your butt to one run, but after a while, luck is going to hurt you. " - Billy Beane

by Roscoe Parrish on Jul 18, 2005 11:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Mostly minor transgressions.
A's fans can appreciate that other team's laundry may be pleasing to the eye, and that the sins of children are less grave than the sins of adults.

Watching from the concourse is still watching, and if the practice is more often attached to an A's win, possibly a good-luck totem for you.

Disrespecting the King is more troublesome. While he does make mistakes (no one is perfect), his heart is pure and his excitement is genuine. For penance, you must listen to nine innings of Hank Greenwalt doing a road game, without the benefit of stimulants.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Minor transgression?
And you're condemning him to nine innigs of Hel... I mean, Hank?
"Look what we did!"

by ArakSOT on Jul 18, 2005 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Forgive me Shooter
At the Angels/A's penultimate game of last season, I was in a skybox full of Angels fans (except myself and my companion).  When Mecir came into the game, I groaned and shook the hand of the Angels fan next to me and wished them luck in the playoffs.

At spring training this year, after failing to get Rich Harden's autograph on my first attempt, I sent my girlfriend in for all the other autographs.  Out of guilt, I wedged myself in and blocked for her.

"Everyone was saying, 'Swisher, you suck!' and I was like, 'OK, we've established that.' "

by oblique on Jul 18, 2005 11:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Complicated sins, these.
If your heart was attempting to counter-jinx Mecir's appearance, there is no penance.

If you were truly defeatist, you have sin in your heart and must atone. Please reply back with your answer.

As for the autograph transgression, again, more knowledge is needed. Did your girlfriend share your fondness for Harden? If so, there is no penance. If not, you have comissioned another to do what you would not.

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

sob...sob....
I had no hope in my heart that fateful afternoon; I lost faith not only in the Team and the Nation but also in the power of the counterjinx.  My congratulations and well wishes, were, alas, as genuine as the groan.

The autograph transgression is more complicated.  My girlfriend is enamored with Harden, and with the other players that signed for her (Jermaine Clark, Nick Swisher, and -- OH please forgive me -- Eric Byrnes).  But she is much more enamored with Eric Chavez.

Which brings up another sin:  During Harden's masterful performance last week, I turned the television toward the couch, causing the largest layer of the Eric Chavez babooshka doll (which I'd gotten for my girlfriend for her birthday) to fall to the floor and shatter.

And one more:  When we got the Eric Chavez babooshka doll, we both thought it looked a lot more like Durazo.

"Everyone was saying, 'Swisher, you suck!' and I was like, 'OK, we've established that.' "

by oblique on Jul 18, 2005 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Understood.
I'll dismiss the autograph and tcotcke out of hand. Unless the Chavez doll was believed by you to have mystical powers, it is only a trinket.

As for Mecir... you must strive to root as a child, without reservation, with hope instead of experience, with joy instead of dread.

Jim Mecir's purpose is finally made clear: he was here to test our faith. And we failed that test, as surely as he failed his.

Your penance to the Nation must be strong to match your lack of faith. I want you to obtain one of those hateful Rally Monkeys, but only if the acquisition does not profit the LAAAAA organization. If you can not do this, you must make one.

Next, you must fashion a crude club, in the form of a foot, to symbolize the feet of Jim Mecir.

Next, you must crush the Rally Monkey with the Mecir club. The use of a pestle is acceptable for this task. The goal is to acquire a fine powder.

Mix the powder with fertilizer, and use it to plant spring flowers in the off-season. Water them well, and see that they come to fruition. If they do not, you must repeat the task until successful.

As you see the fruits of Jim Mecir's symbolic victory over LAAAAAA poke through and bloom, so too will your soul be restored.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funny as hel...er, sin!
LMAO!  "A" representing "Absolution", of course.
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by LowcountryJoe on Jul 18, 2005 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sin of Omission
My major sin is not a specific action, but rather a lack of action: I do not do enough to Athleticize the lost souls of the Yankee/Red Sox-worshipping pagans that surround me here in upstate NY.  Opportunites are plentiful, but I have failed to take advantage of them in many ways.  I do not wear A's clothing in their presence.  I have yet to have convinced anyone else to read Moneyball.  When the two despised rivals square off, I put on a halfhearted display of cheering for the Red Sox without bothering to explain the Moneyball justification to the unenlightened.  Never do I do the truly honorable thing, acting indifferent to the outcome, as the true A's fan should hate both teams alike, Theo Epstein/Bill James/John Henry notwithstanding.  Worse, before the poker game began last night, I did deny the A's three times, when I cheered for each baserunner as the Red Sox attempted their futile rally in the bottom of the ninth.  Have mercy, DMT  
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by Cutthemullet on Jul 18, 2005 11:41 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm troubled for your A's soul, my son.
True baseball fans do not welcome those of little faith into their midst. You are not only not showing fealty to your team, you are also cheapening the experience for fans of others.

You should not attempt to actively convert others to your team while you are in the land of the enemy. Nor should you deny your true nature. Wear your A's gear when you want, and discuss Moneyball for the reason that any baseball fan should -- that it's just a great baseball book.

As for penance, you know what you must do -- come out to your friends and family as an A's fan. Until you do, you shall have no relief.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Recent Sins
  1.  At last Thursday's game, although I didn't say anything specifically about the potential perfect game, I turned to my friend after the first out of the 8th and said, "this is really getting exciting!"  Obviously, my excitement was dampened by the next at-bat.
  2.  I very grudgingly left the game after the 12th inning yesterday because I was on the verge of becoming a crispy critter after baking in the sun for 5 hours.  At least I heard the walk-off on the radio, though....

by LD on Jul 18, 2005 12:21 PM PDT reply actions  

The latter is more troubling.
You could have watched from any number of shady spots, but did not.

For the sin of uncreative fandom, you must write, design, and display a humorous sign at  your next home game.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, well..
I left out the part that I was already half an hour late for a poker game that I had organized.  At least I put that off to stay through the 12th!

by LD on Jul 18, 2005 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Help Me!
Forgive me, DMS, for I have sinned. It has been MANY years since my last confession. These are my sins:
  1. I thought bad thoughts.
  2. I did bad things.
That's about it... oh, except for the Yankees shirt and hat I bought while visiting familly in NY last year... and I let my girlfriend watch Lifetime while an A's game was on once - but she's really hot so it kind of was worth it. Oh, and I bailed out of MLB.com yesterday in the 13th inning and fell asleep on the couch while watching Bos/NY on ESPN.

Crap... this is worse than I thought. I probably shouldn't mention anything about the thoughts I had of becoming a Giants fan when the A's were close to leaving a few years ago. Does it help if the only Giants cap I own is worn mostly for painting ceilings?

Would it do any good if I painted my neighbor's dog green and gold? He's a Giants fan (the neighbor, not the the dog) and I never really liked him anyway (the dog, not the neighbor.)

As you can see, DMS, I'm in pretty bad shape. Ever since Byrnes didn't touch home plate... and Miggy stopped to argue the call... oh, and Jeremy failing to slide - that too. Ariel Prieto instead of Todd Helton. Then there's Mickey Hatcher back in the La Russa days... Kirk Gibson... Steve Boros and Jackie Moore... damn.

I need help.

Harden = Canadian for "Effin' awesome, eh?" -jlaff

by tmail on Jul 18, 2005 12:24 PM PDT reply actions  

I see that you are troubled, my son.
> Why did you buy the Yankee shirt, and do you still have it?

> Letting your girlfriend watch something else is permissible, provided you continued to monitor the game. The Web is a wonderful thing.

> Choosing BOS/NYY over an extra inning game is very troubling. Are you, in fact, a closet NYY fan?

> The Giants will tempt you, with their fancy ballpark and their constant media exposure. Do not fall for their siren call. They will lead you into madness and despair.

> Vandalizing the neighbor or his dog is a crime, and true fans do not commit crimes.

> Cataloguing the team's bad moments shows that you spend too much time obsessing over the negative, and not enough time treasuring the positive. This is a common sin.

For penance, you should:

  1. Dispose of the Yankee shirt and the Giants hat, preferably in a non-respectful manner
  2. Purchase and display a large A's flag on your property, in plain view of the Giants fan neighbor
  3. Write a diary on AN detailing your favorite 50 moments of being an A's fan. If you do not have 50 moments, you must begin a diary until you acquire 50.
Now go, and sin no more!
"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

My sins:
During Zito's no-hit bid, I called my brother (who supposedly doesn't like the A's), and actually bragged about Zito.  He said Zito won't get the no-no.  Four batters later, Buckethead homered.  Please forgive me!!!

I think A-Rod is cute.  (But I hate him because he's a Yankee).

I think Lou Seal is better than Stomper.  I know this is a horrible crime, but I'm guilty.

I also think SBC Park is beautiful.  Please don't hate me.

I find Krukow and Kuiper (the OTHER Kuiper) entertaining.

GO A's!!!

by AsGirl on Jul 18, 2005 12:50 PM PDT reply actions  

i agree about SBC
though i usually forget they changed the name and call it Pac Bell, so i think that makes up for it.
"...the plate won't move. The mound is going to feel the same. The strike zone, with slight variations, is going to be right where it has always been." -Huston

by sabriel on Jul 18, 2005 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have sinned against the One True Barry.
A-Rod and SBC are permissible if not encouraged, since they are of no real consequence to the A's.

Mascots are not baseball; they are sideshows for children. True baseball fans do not concern themselves with them.

Krukow and Kuiper... well, you're pushing it, since both are McCarver Light homers who are part of the Vast Media Conspiracy to deny the A's their rightful due... but we'll let that pass for now.

No, the true transgression is that you Broke The Mojo for Barry, so much so that he lost his no-hitter and his shutout in one cruel pitch. For this, you must atone.

In Barry's next start, you should watch the game alone, and try to channel his thought process until he either gives up a run or leaves the game.

You will do this by speaking in tongues to the best of your ability, to get more in touch with the inner monolouge that is Barry's gift and Barry's bane.

To prepare, you can read Mychal Urban's "Aces" or watch Barry in an interview as he discusses pitching. If neither option is available, you should watch the A's brand commercial with him and the younger pitchers until you have committed it to memory.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kruk & Kuip Skism
AsGirl, I urge you in the name of all that is Holy Toledo to reject the heresiarch DMtShooter's counsel regarding the sub-deities Kruk (that's "KROOK," not "Kruhk") and Kuip.

While they do not sit in the company of the Chosen Ones King and Korach, they are suitable minor eminences to whom offerings may be made.

Laugh while you can, monkeyboy!

by monkeyball on Jul 18, 2005 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Zito's "special" game sin
Here's my recent sin, which I posted in a game day thread, way after the game was over...

"Oakland ace Barry Zito was pitching a no-hitter Friday night when Catrina (aka Streetfan) left her seat looking for cotton candy. This immediately caused Texas to hit a homerun. Nearby A's fans in 125 teased her mercilessly until the end of the game. Streetfan deeply regrets her error."

Sorry guys. I promise not to move next time!

Everything's cocoa and cookies once again--M. Urban, on A's win

by streetfan on Jul 18, 2005 12:54 PM PDT reply actions  

More sins against the One True Barry.
For your penance, you must purchase a stick of cotton candy before Zito's next start, then burn it in an offering to Barry's Mojo.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pleasure penance?
So what if I buy the cotton candy, but have to give it to Barry and watch him eat it? No, I guess that would be pleasure for me, not penance!

To make matters worse, I never did find any as the food places were closing down and had to go running to an open view spot after I heard screams of anguish from the crowd when TEX got the damn hit :(

Everything's cocoa and cookies once again--M. Urban, on A's win

by streetfan on Jul 18, 2005 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guilt ridden since '86
Oh Father Shooter, relieve me of my long standing guilt... I had 2 tickets, 2 rows up from 3rd base, oh so close to Carney. I chose to make out with a girl during a game, which distracted Alfredo Griffin so much he committed 2 errors and caused the A's to be down 10 runs by the 3rd inning. We then left the game by the 5th inning and went to Malibu Grand Prix. The A's lost badly and I can't even remember the girl's name. Her parents hated me though.
I stand ready to receive my penance. Relive me of this long term guilt!
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by lansfords1 on Jul 18, 2005 1:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Holy cow...
You must have been really getting it on to distract a Major League Baseball player...yowza!
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by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 18, 2005 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think they put us on Diamond Vison!
I was pretty smooth back then... had a "rebel without a clue" thing going on that attracted the girls. 19 years later the act has worn really thin.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by lansfords1 on Jul 18, 2005 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lust will distract you from The Path.
This sin haunts you because, in your heart, you know that making out at a game prevented you from devoting your all-powerful Concern Rays to the game.

A man can not serve two masters. Mojo can not be split or shared. And love at the park is always best saved until after the game is over, when you are both mature enough to handle it.

For your penance, you must remember the girl's name, and then find her current address (luckily, the Web is a stalker's best friend).

If the woman is still in the area, you must send her two tickets to a game, in an envelope with no note or return address. You are not to attend that game.

In so doing, you will serve to unify your faith once more, and atone for your youthful indiscretions.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHA!!!!
Nice post DMT!!!

As fans filed out in the top of the 8th I just laid my head down on my drum for a second then realized, "Hey, they can do this!!!" Pom Pom man behind me was saying to people leaving, "Don't leave before the miracle!"

So, in the bottom of nine with Mellhuse hitting for Chavy, we began a "Millhouse" chant and I turned to the people behind me and said that Millhouse would get it started. Did I believe that the team would come back? Honestly, no, but I hoped.

The funniest thing was when a woman sitting next to me who'd cursed Ginter all day, got on her knees and started praying for a hit. Which he complied to with a double!!!

Those moments made the day for me. If I'd have left early:

a) I would have been a terrible fan. Can you imagine the drummers in LF leaving with thier drums before the game is over?

b) I would have only witnessed a 10-3 thrashing instead of a very memorable sign of how great this team is RIGHT NOW!

I Mean, they brought the tying run to the plate in the bottom of the 9th when they'd been trailing 10-3 at the outset.

They made Cordero throw pitches on back to back days, perhaps setting up the 9th on Sunday.

Also, Millhouse was on deck when Crosby ended it. I can just imagine what the place would have done when Mellhuse came up as the winning run. In my mind he would have ended it in our favor with a 3 run jimmy jack.

Faith Oakland Faithful, Faith!!!

by saint @ Athletics Nation on Jul 18, 2005 1:32 PM PDT reply actions  

saint...
i saw you Friday night in LF and shouted out but the Zi-to chants were too loud i guess...  you guys were bumpin' by the way...way to keep the rhythm!

by high street on Jul 18, 2005 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sweet...Thanks...
Friday night was absolutely electric for me. Everything was so full of elation and togetherness in the bleachers that some of my friends who "Only sit in the good seats" ;) were jumping for joy and dancing in the parking lot after having experienced, what they termed, "the real fans"...Sweet!

Duke and I'll be out there Monday and Tuesday of next week banging our drums as the A's take on the team that has the father of the drum, Cleveland.

Bring it AN and Let's Go A's!!!

by saint @ Athletics Nation on Jul 18, 2005 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw you...
Thursday, sprinting past me towards the bathroom ;)  I would have said hi, but your quest was obviously urgent and I was headed back to my seats.

I also could have swore I saw you holding up a sign near the visiting bullpen.  What did it say?

by LD on Jul 18, 2005 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Texas Ragers - Bush League Brocail
Buck's Bush Leaguers
Spank the Texas Ragers - Go Harden

Yeah, that was me.

by saint @ Athletics Nation on Jul 18, 2005 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

confession
i was supposed to go to the game on the 14th, when Harden threw 7+ no-no innings...  i had my tickets and everything.  but an imprompto family gathering for my mother's/auntie's birthdays prevented me from getting anywhere near the ballpark.  i settled for watching the game on tv (thank god momma has cable), and watched anxiously as Harden dealt.  i knew if he threw a no hitter i'd never be able to forgive myself for missing the game.....and when he didn't, i was relieved....ah! forgive me!

by high street on Jul 18, 2005 1:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Putting yourself ahead of the team. Shameful.
If Harden had thrown the perfecto, he would have gained national attention for the A's, and increased attendance at A's games from the notoriously front-running Bay Area spots fans.

Your relief is not within your integrity as a fan, and causes you pain. For penance, you must get right with Harden by honoring his Canadian heritage in a selfless fashion.

Before his next start, prepare a pound of fine Canadian back bacon and purchase a six-pack of fine Canadian beer. Bring both items to the Coliseum parking lot and distribute them freely to fellow A's fans, in a random act of kindness.

If your fan soul is still not relieved, explain the reason why you are doing this.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 19, 2005 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

i've thought of my real sin
and i'm sure it's one many of you share.

thanks to sslinger's new diary about attendance, i remembered:

Much as I would love our team to have more money, I love the fact that we don't have as many fans as most other teams. I love that we basically never sell out games.
I love these things because it means I know I can always get really good last minute seats. I love these things because they mean that I can be more selfish about the A's being "mine."

I also love them because it means we are not The Man the way the Yanks and Sox are, but I think the other two are actual sins.

"...the plate won't move. The mound is going to feel the same. The strike zone, with slight variations, is going to be right where it has always been." -Huston

by sabriel on Jul 18, 2005 2:05 PM PDT reply actions  

I, too, share in this sin.
The only penance is attendance, and to do as all real A's fans do -- root with the strength and passion of ten persons.
"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sigh...
I followed the A's hard from 1987 to 1993.

I have been following the A's hard from the second half of 1999 to today.

But 1994 to early 1999 is mostly a blur.

I did not forsake the A's for any other team. I lived in Huntsville, Alabama (Braves territory), and it was before MLB Audio, GameDay or Extra Innings (or before I knew of such things). And when people asked, I always said my favorite team is the Oakland Athletics and collected A's stuff.

But frankly, I don't remember much about those teams at all. And I feel guilty, for I fear that I be the bandwagoner.

Please forgive me, Father DMtShooter!

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by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 18, 2005 2:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Understandable.
Those were dark times. And I'm not sure exactly what you could have done to increase your fandom during those days.

Since the drop seems to be causing you pain, your penance is to go to Baseball-Reference.com and study the forgotten years.

Once you are able to name ten non-McGwire/Giambi players from this era, your conscious should clear. If, however, you still do not feel absolved, it is your mission to acquire a Geronimo Berroa game jersey.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

sins
during a's games i am very likely to switch to uther channels in the first couple id innings..

nad when the a's were 15 games below .500 i gave up onthem, i told myself that the a's were going to have a bad season

"I think there's some closet sickos on this team, just waiting to bust out. Even Huston (Street); you can't be a closer and not be a little off." Zito said.

by Dwainsays on Jul 18, 2005 2:30 PM PDT reply actions  

"uther channels"
Those would be the ones showing continual reruns of KING ARTHUR and EXCALIBUR, right?
Laugh while you can, monkeyboy!

by monkeyball on Jul 18, 2005 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

TiVo
or some such similar thing. It makes baseball games way more efficient, and it's great for little things that don't get replayed officially. Like when the wife says, hey who is that in the dugout? No idea, we rewind then deduce.

The only, and I mean only, downside to TiVo is that you can't participate in the AN game threads since to get the most out of TiVo, you need to start watching the game about an hour in, so you can skip commercials, pitching changes, injury breaks, etc.

by Apricot on Jul 18, 2005 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Common sins.
If you can't work your way up to viewing the game in the early innings, I recommend getting Tivo, and speeding through later. It's also a great option if you've got family obligations to attend to.

Giving up on your team is a stronger offense. Even for those of us who wrote off any chance at playoffs, there was the Dan Johnson sightings, the chance to see the young pitchers mature. Stepping out for the bad times diminishes your joy when the good times arrive.

For your penance, I suggest re-reading AN game entries from May, to see what you've missed. If that's not possible, find old game accounts and/or Ray Ratto columns. This is a harsh penance, but the next time the team goes on a downturn, your faith will be the stronger for it.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weakness
It was a moment of weakness.  The hated Red Sox were in town earlier this year, for the only time of the season.  But it was that month after April and before June that shall not be mentioned, and the Sox are the defending WS champs, and there would be many of their fans crowing in the stands.  And I had a flight to catch early the next morning.  And...I just couldn't bear to go.  I left my seats empty.  For shame (though I did redeem them as dead tickets for later game).  There, it is out for all to see.

by sslinger on Jul 18, 2005 2:35 PM PDT reply actions  

This is a heavy burden, my son.
I, too, have felt the temptation to avoid games when my team needed me most, when the enemy was bringing in their own reinforcements. I, too, have shyed away from selecting those games, for fear of exposing my child to those elements.

Games like that are not for the faithless. The enemy will test you, taunt you, long to celebrate in your misery. You must rise above them, even if the A's do not.

For in the final analysis, there is but one thing to remember: we are A's fans, and they are not.

We are the fans of the team of extremes -- 9-time world champions that have moved twice, the team that traded away Rickey Henderson in his prime and got him back again, the fans that can laugh at Mount Davis in one moment and cry about it the next.

For your penance, you must watch the "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" Red Sox episode, and not fast-forward through any second of it. When you are tempted to stand back from their fans again, you will remember this moment, and your resolve will be as steel.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

My sin
I used to be a Yankees fan (I grew up in SW Connecticut).  

I moved to the Bay Area in 1998. Despite being a huge baseball fan growing up (from 1982 on), I never really saw a lot of games live, because there was little interest in baseball in my house (father is German and a soccer fan), and because the ballpark wasn't nearby.  My fandom was cultivated through hundreds of hours of reading baseball encyclopedias and other baseball books.  

That said, I was certainly a big Yankee fan, and cheered loudly when they won the WS in 1996 (after 14 years of suffering).  

Starting in 1998, I began attending 20 or so A's games a year, and fell in love with the A's.  I loved their patient approach, their youthful enthusiasm, and how clearly better run they were than every other organization in baseball.  Indeed, a bit of resentment for the team I grew up rooting for began to foment--how was it fair that this great team had so much less resources at their disposal?

My true preference was tested in 2000, when I went to all of the A's-Yanks playoff games at the Coliseum.  The early innings of Game 1 were tough--I nearly remained silent.  But as the game wore on, the A's part of me won out, and I began openly rooting against the Yanks.  I pumped my fist, jumping up and down screaming, when Izzy dropped in that dazzling curve for the final out of the first game.

Since then, I've made the A's my one and only baseball allegiance, referring to ending that earlier period of time in my life as "my baseball divorce."  I've continued to go to 20 games a year up until this year (when I moved to Sac, although I've still made it to 7 thus far).  I'll bleed green and gold until the day I die, no matter where I move (yes, even if back to CT).

Please forgive my sin of supporting the Yankees' quest to destroy baseball in my past life.  

Then again, maybe I haven't sinned at all--in fact, I've been saved?

Or I've just sinned against the Yankees.  But, hey, screw the Yankees.  LET'S GO OAKLAND!

A Beane in the hand is worth $60M in payroll

by jeepers on Jul 18, 2005 2:39 PM PDT reply actions  

in my opinion
being a Yankee fan in the 1980s is enough penance, and not really that evil, as they stunk enough to shake off all the bandwagoners.

by Apricot on Jul 18, 2005 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Penance waived.
You have seen the light that is A's Fandom. Cue the organ music!
"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't forget get the choir...
...and the light shining on thee.

Choir: AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!

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by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 18, 2005 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have twice gone for the bobblehead
but not stayed for the game.

Once I immediately left - I had an event that I had to go to.

The other I stayed for four innings, but, as the good guys were dominating and I was miserable because I was covered with poison oak, I went home.

The next time I slap a guy's ass, can we all just assume it's because I wish I was a baseball player?

by devo on Jul 18, 2005 2:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Worshipping the graven bobblehead!
You already know where the penance is going here, don't you, my son?

You must relinquish the totem, if only for a little while. Hide the bobblehead from thine eyes for the same number of days that you have owned it. When the days have gone out, you may once again display it with pride, for you will have earned it.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

sin or not a sin?
I had to turn off Barry Zito's episode of "J.A.G." because I thought he was just a horrible, horrible actor. Likewise his horrible, horrible singing on "The Chris Isaak Show." Provided that I continue to appreciate The Almighty Z's prowess on the baseball field, and that I have never blasphemed with "What's wrong with Barry?" when he gives up one bad inning, may I be forgiven for thinking he should just put away the guitar and set his TV agent free?

by Poppy on Jul 18, 2005 3:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes.
It's all about what's between the lines. No penance.
"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do we have to become mature?
Bless me, Shooter, for I have sinned.  My last confession was sometime in the springtime of 1988.  

My mortal sin--- I actually committed a sin by daring to cuss the Eckersley name after the Gibson homer... mainly because my best friend was a Dodgers' fan and he was chiming obscenities in my ear for hours after the game.  I have always felt terrible for dissing the man who reached near perfection as a closer and who is one of my favorite players of all-time.

The venial sin--- I used to take off work for every A's day game and it got to the point where my company would wait for me to "pull some more b.s." on gameday but none of them were actually fooled.  A few of them used my own A's schedule to determine when there were day games... mainly because I wasn't sitting in my chair anyway!  The sin is that I have matured (and invested in MLB radio) to the point where my employer sometimes rates above the A's and I swear money/career would never rule my life!!  

I forgot the prayer afterwards...

by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 18, 2005 4:22 PM PDT reply actions  

We must discuss.
Cursing the Eck in a moment of weakness, provided it was limited to the WS game and wasn't in the 5 to 10% of the time that the man otherwise failed... well, you're not expected to be perfect in your fandom. And if you had reacted to it with nothing but a sad smile, your conviction to the cause would be more in question. It sounds to be that you have already more than served your penance.

As for what you consider a venal sin... as we get older, career and other obligations changes our fandom, but the changes do not have to be painful ones.

Yes, you make more money now... so you have access to more games. And when you go, you can probably afford better seats. You're not doing the team any favors by being a pauper.

Now, the more important question is this: do you care less? Will you still attend a day ALDS game? And when you go, are you checking your Blackberry or cell phone constantly for work-related activity?

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I must clarify--
I'm not from the Oakland area but I can GUARANTEE that I will never miss a day game of the playoffs on TV.  During the 20-game winning streak a few years ago... I begged a bar owner in my hometown to fire up the "old" satellites and find the damn A's game somehow because I couldn't miss it.  It was the one where the A's were up like 10-0 over the Royals and won 11-10 and he put it on at the bar, which had to be against the law.  I GUARANTEE that when the A's reach the WS... I will be there for all home games, though, because I already have a fund set aside for the trip.  It's called a CREDIT CARD!

Let me clarify... cussing the Eck was limited to the one and only WS game but it still hurts every time I see the frickin' clip on TV.  Can Fox Sports play something else once in awhile because it seems to always be on??  I am actually starting to remember that horrible feeling I had in my stomach and my heart was already beating like a drum BEFORE the homer!  

by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 18, 2005 4:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Penance waived.
And pay no attention to Fox. They will deceive, no matter what the subject matter.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I put my interests ahead of the Nation's
Last month when there were rumblings that Zito would be traded to Philly (where I live), for a fleeting (big emphasis on "fleeting") moment I thought of how awesome it would be to see my favorite baseball player in person all the time. I still feel awful that the thought even entered my mind.
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

by day-to-day on Jul 18, 2005 5:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Not necessarily.
It is quite possible that if Zito were to be traded to the Phillies, that this would work out in the long-term for the A's.

For verily I sayeth unto you, that the Phillies wander like blind men in the desert, incapable of knowing what is a good trade if it were to biteth them in the nether regions.

As I have said unto you previously, they are like children who ride in a bus that is not of normal length, but is smaller, and with more padding.

If thou still feels ill at ease with thy fandom, perform the penitent act of obtaining a Philadelphia A's jersey, and Wear It to your next Phillies game. Inform any that you meet that the wrong team left town. They will most likely agree with you.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

"nether regions"
Do you realize that if Lew Wolff were to sell the team to a consortium of businesspersons from the Netherlands who relocated the team to their home country, the team would then be the Holland A's?
Laugh while you can, monkeyboy!

by monkeyball on Jul 18, 2005 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't get saucy with me, monkeyball!
"Everyone was saying, 'Swisher, you suck!' and I was like, 'OK, we've established that.' "

by oblique on Jul 18, 2005 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Forgive me DMt
This has been bothering me since I did it...

I gave up on the A's in May. Oh, and I mean gave up. I retired all my A's jerseys, all the goodies off my wall, I even locked FSN from my digital cable. I thought that maybe if I gave them up, they would do better.

I too, like R.O.Y. dont like to get into big baseball talk with guys for fear of them knowing more than me and calling me out, even though I know I know my stuff. And I also feel like Im letting down some girl fans.

I fell asleep during the Rivercats game that was aired over here. I felt like I let down some future A's players.

I accidentally broke a little ity bity part of my Reggie Jackson figurine and didnt bother to fix it, even thought I loved that figurine, and I threw it away.

I really really dont like Rincon. And I feel even more guilty cause Im not supporting a fellow Latino.

I dont really want to meet any of the A's players because I think Id just freeze and not do anything, and I kind of want to just keep thinking of them as these immortal awesome people, and I think meeting them would somewhat ruin that. At the same time, I really do want to meet them.

Oh, and last season, as much as I hated the Angels, I had a secret crush on Eckstein.

by ElephantLove on Jul 18, 2005 5:02 PM PDT reply actions  

The last one is the greatest
sin of all.  You must be banned for it!
:P
GO A's!!!

by AsGirl on Jul 18, 2005 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey , forgive the girl!
She thought he was Eckersley's 12 year old son!
Picker of Nits since '63. Or so I thought until I discovered AN. Now I feel like a nitpiker.

by McFood on Jul 18, 2005 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understand, my child.
Owning up to your failure in faith is to Wear It, and your shame in doing so is admirable. Remember it the next time that the team tests your faith.

And while this view is not shared by all clergy in the Nation, it is the view of this parson that minor league baseball is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord, since it does not really matter who wins and who loses.

The Reggie totem is easily mended, via the wonders of eBay.

Supporting A's based on their race is a weak faith. Root for Rincon as a child, and keep the faith that if things get bad, BB will ensure that the offending reliever shall prove injured.

Fandom does not require personal interaction, but if you do wish to meet them, you need to separate the men from their actions. They're just guys, after all.

As for your secret crush on Eckstein, it is understandable. As your priest in this matter is of less than average height, I am well aware of the extraordinary temptation that men of my stature present to the fairer sex. Now that Eckstein toils in St. Loius, your crush is mostly harmless.

As for your penance, by far the most aggregious misstep was denying them in May. In doing this, you only hurt yourself, but to ensure that it does not happen again, I recommend that you go and re-read game threads from those dark days for not less than one hour.

Only by accepting the losses of May shall you overcome them, and see that in that manure, flowers did bloom.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 18, 2005 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Former Dodger Fan
Padre nuestro, que estas en el cielo,
santificado sea tu nombre....

I grew up in L.A. and a dodgers fan.  I still get chills when Vin Scully's voice announces the precense of Gibson and I see the entire pitch count.  I did not know the A's at the time.  Life sent me a curve ball and dumped me in Oakland for a while.  Rooting for the Giants would be a sin in my book.  Having no other choice, I turned to the A's.  Today, I listen to Bill King and the rest of the cast on the radio when I can't make it to the park.  

However, I still get chills when I see that clip and it's become a guilty pleasure of mine when I see and hear it unexpectedly.    

by DaThirdDeck on Jul 18, 2005 5:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Begrudgingly, you get no penance.
But you better get out of my pew before I change my mind.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 19, 2005 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Help me father, I am about to sin.
I have to root for either the Yankees or the Rangers this week.  Do I root for Texas, to push NYY out of the wild card race a bit, or pull for NYY to help us create space between us and the Rangers?  I feel that rooting for the Yanks is a quite possibly the original sin, but pulling for a division rival isn't much better.  

by gatling on Jul 18, 2005 6:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Root fo a split.
Then their wins cancel each other out.
Green and Gold since '73. #1712

by kent1 on Jul 18, 2005 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can't, they play 3 games.
Can't decide what will be more helpful to us.

by gatling on Jul 18, 2005 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

D'oh!
Sure, I can read schedule.  Yeah, right.
Green and Gold since '73. #1712

by kent1 on Jul 18, 2005 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

You do not have to sin.
Rooting for either team is pointless, for the A's shall make both irrelevant in due time.

Instead, concentrate your concern like a laser on the A's as they battle the creeping menace of LAAAAAAAAAAA.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 19, 2005 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Have I sinned?
I am an A's fan first last and always.  But I also root for the Giants - not against the A's - but against all others.  I grew up in the Bay Area, and I root for ALL the Bay Area teams.  I was not aware this was a sin until I joined AN this past spring. I like Kruk and Kuip and I like SBC Park (can't afford to go there too often).  That said, There is no other place I'd rather be than the Coliseum watching the A's.  Is it a sin to also like the Giants?
Btw, this is one of the best diary threads I've read yet.
Green and Gold since '73. #1712

by kent1 on Jul 18, 2005 6:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Just as there were good men...
fighting for an unjust cause in any number of wars in human history, so too there are good fans rooting for an unjust team in the Bay Area.

Some of my fellow parsons say that there is room in the heart for two leagues and two teams, so long as one team is always prime in your heart. Some feel that casting aside half of the available baseball is to cheat oneself of the full glory that is baseball. And some would go further, and say that by cleaving so strongly to one team over the other, that we encourage divisiveness and strife in our Bay Area, as if we were nothing more than New Yorkers.

And yet verily I say unto you, why would you choose to patronize the accursed Giants? The organization that gave you Jeff Kent, Barry Bonds, and Alex Sanchez? The team that traded Joe Nathan for AJ Pyrzinski? The team that treats draft choices and young talent the way that an allergy sufferer treats tissues?

We are what we do, and who we roll with. Choose well, my children. Your very fandom is at stake.

And finally, we thank for your support of the AN Confessional. Please be sure to fill the collection plate when it comes by.

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 19, 2005 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

i confess
when i was a little kid growing up in the east bay, my favorite teams were the red sox (boggs and clemens) and the angels (jim abbott).  

i used to get annoyed every time stew beat clemens because my parents were big a's fans.

now it just makes my hatred of the red sox and the angels that much greater, to compensate.

please don't hurt me!!

by xbhaskarx on Jul 18, 2005 6:29 PM PDT reply actions  

This priest never hurts children.
You do not need to overcompensate for your childish rebellions against the light, my son.

Your penance is to apologize to your parents for this behavior, if you have not already done so, and to take them to a game. At this game, you will treat them to whatever sugary snack you can get them to accept.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 19, 2005 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

i owe an apology to mark kotsay
for underestimating his ability to stay out of the double play.
Having recently seen a Baseball Prospectus list of 'top 5 AL rally killers by NetDP' (in which Jason Kendall comes in second)(grr) I looked up the whole team, and was surprised to find the following (negative numbers are very good) (yeah chavy!):
[with apologies for the formatting]

#    NAME    TEAM    LG    YEAR    DP_OPPS    DP    DP%    NETDP
1.    Eric Byrnes    OAK    AL    2005    52    1    1.9%    -5.72
2.    Eric Chavez    OAK    AL    2005    87    6    6.9%    -5.24
3.    Mark Kotsay    OAK    AL    2005    80    8    10.0%    -2.33
4.    Daniel Johnson    OAK    AL    2005    40    4    10.0%    -1.17
5.    Adam Melhuse    OAK    AL    2005    9    0    0.0%    -1.16
6.    Nicholas Swisher    OAK    AL    2005    54    6    11.1%    -0.98
7.    Charles Thomas    OAK    AL    2005    7    0    0.0%    -0.90
8.    Mark Ellis    OAK    AL    2005    45    5    11.1%    -0.81
9.    Marco Scutaro    OAK    AL    2005    43    5    11.6%    -0.55
10.    Matt Watson    OAK    AL    2005    9    1    11.1%    -0.16
11.    Bobby Crosby    OAK    AL    2005    42    6    14.3%    0.57
12.    Erubiel Durazo    OAK    AL    2005    36    6    16.7%    1.35
13.    Bobby Kielty    OAK    AL    2005    66    11    16.7%    2.47
14.    Keith Ginter    OAK    AL    2005    32    7    21.9%    2.87
15.    Scott Hatteberg    OAK    AL    2005    72    15    20.8%    5.70
16.    Jason Kendall    OAK    AL    2005    74    16    21.6%    6.44

by captainamerica on Jul 18, 2005 6:29 PM PDT reply actions  

I Have Sinned, Like A Televangelist
I need penance...
  1. I feel vaguely depressed over the awful Giants season.
  2. I have followed Braves pitchers for 30 years, though not always the team on the whole.
  3. I do not like Kendall's inability to smoke a base-stealer.
  4. I really like Macha's style and if my boss wasn't such a great guy, I'd work for Macha anytime.

by Dan_Honolulu on Jul 18, 2005 8:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Minor transgressions.
But if your soul cries out for penance, who am I to deny you?
  1. Depression over the Giants season is a natural reaction to an old and decrepit team playing old and decrepit baseball. Your penance is to get an Alex Sanchez jersey, and to use it to change your car's oil.
  2. Following another team's pitchers is mostly pointless, but 30 minutes of Leo Mazzone-style rocking, preferably in a public place, will put you to right.
  3. It's only natural to be disappointed in any catcher that doesn't gun down baserunners. But you are chastising Kendall for something that he can no longer improve.
Your penance is to go to the A's speed gun in the Kid's Zone on 5 different occasions for the rest of this year, and to see if you can improve your MPH ranking over the course of your visits.

If you can not, you must accept that Kendall is doing all he can, and move on to a fresher target for your ire.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 19, 2005 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thank You
Thank you, DMtShooter, and bless you.  I kiss the ends of your frock.  I kiss your bishop's ring!  I will do as you say and sin no more!

by Dan_Honolulu on Jul 19, 2005 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

My turn.
My A's sins, at least that come to mind, are relatively few. I never leave games early, even if the outcome seems to definitely be decided. But the first game of the A's-Braves series, I was listening to it on my way home from work, and after we were down early I got frustrated and stopped listening. I was elsewhere that night, but could have heard us get the lead. I also stopped listening during Saturday's loss, and only came back to check the score towards the end of the 9th inning rally.

I have never attended batting practice. Is that a sin?

I only started following baseball and the A's during the 2002 season, so I missed the two previous good years of baseball (thankfully along with their painful endings). But now I have seen the light and have followed the A's faithfully ever since.

by whiteshoes40 on Jul 18, 2005 9:06 PM PDT reply actions  

not a sin
but I suggest you go see Ichiro in BP when seattle's in town. For such a chippy hitter, the guy can rake.

by Apricot on Jul 18, 2005 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Batting practice is not baseball.
Therefore, to miss it is not a sin. It is a choice.

As for the sin of incomplete faith, you must spend one week of turning off highlights of A's wins on any sports clip show, before the highlights are finished. If you can not manage the bad moments, you have not truly earned the good ones.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 19, 2005 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eric Byrnes
I've just to put to rest this Byrnes-Peyton comparison.  In EVERY SINGLE STAT, except strike outs and errors, Byrnes is better this year.  Let's look at their career numbers:

Byrnes:  
162 485 81 131 32 6 16 61 40 86 13 2 .271 .336 .461 .797

Payton:
162 530 74 150 25 4 18 68 36 67 5 5 .283 .333 .443 .776

Byrnes has a better OBP, SLG and OPS as well as more stolen bases and a better success rate at stolen bases.  The only advantage Payton has is 2 more homers in 35 more at bats.  Byrnes kicks his ass!

by bringbacktejada on Jul 19, 2005 1:09 AM PDT reply actions  

For the sin of posting in the wrong diary...
you must post an AN Diary that has something embarrassing from some other part of your life -- a love note, poetry from your teenage years, your worst bandwagon jump post from Darkest May. This will teach you to better judge your posts.

As for your analysis of Byrnes and Payton, there is more in this baseball world then is dreamt of in your philosophy. I believe it's called "defense."

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 19, 2005 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Father Shooter you must confess...
you're enjoying your newly found calling in the AN way too much.
For the laughter (and relief of my guilt) you've given me, may the A's bless you with a World Championship in the next 3 years.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by lansfords1 on Jul 19, 2005 7:15 AM PDT reply actions  

ditto
I'm trying to remember the last time I returned to a diary to read every single one of the hundred or so comments that got posted since the last time I read it, and I have never read one that cracked me up as much as this one has! :)

by Poppy on Jul 19, 2005 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

ditto that ;-)
"...the plate won't move. The mound is going to feel the same. The strike zone, with slight variations, is going to be right where it has always been." -Huston

by sabriel on Jul 19, 2005 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love my flock.
The pay is fantastic, and I can't complain about my sudden popularity with the female members of AN. They just can't resist the collar.

Of course, if and when someone performs their penance, this gig will get even better...

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 19, 2005 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

don't
love your flock too much. That's where the law comes into it.

Very creative and appropriate penances!

How is it that there hasn't yet been a sleazy reality show where they put a camera in the confessional (hiding the confessor)...?

by Apricot on Jul 19, 2005 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Last night...
I pulled out one of my HS yearbooks to try and remember the girl I made out with at the game... I'm actually going to pay my penance; it's too funny.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by lansfords1 on Jul 19, 2005 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

i left the game
right after i got the rich harden bobblehead... i didn't even wait until the first inning. =[

by anA on Jul 19, 2005 9:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Now that's a sin!
Tell me you didn't then sell the bobblehead on Ebay...
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by lansfords1 on Jul 19, 2005 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

No!!!!
I made a Rich Harden movie with it. :)

by anA on Jul 19, 2005 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just a suggestion...
but I think you should at least post the movie as part of your penance so the AN may critique your directing skills.
Does your movie also star Z's bobblehead? If Cpt Carney's in it, of course I'd give you 5 stars.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by lansfords1 on Jul 19, 2005 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

If it has Zito in it...
...can Catherine Bell be in it, too? I'd give TEN stars for that! :D

(By the way, I felt bad for Zito in JAG. Not one scene with Catherine. I'd have a SERIOUS talk with my agent.)

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by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 19, 2005 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

okay, you have to show us the movie ;-)
"...the plate won't move. The mound is going to feel the same. The strike zone, with slight variations, is going to be right where it has always been." -Huston

by sabriel on Jul 19, 2005 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not exactly a movie
like a slideshow of Rich the bobblehead doing everyday stuff like drive a hummer, feed the fish and no Zito wasn't it but Reggie Jackson and Ramon Hernandez were... anyway I had it in my Myspace for a while but I took it out so I no longer have it, It'd be fun to do a sequel though =D

by anA on Jul 19, 2005 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Byrnes
The movie be better with Byrnes, even though I haven't seen it yet.
-foolshgame22
Bruce Campbell deserves his own national holiday.

by pbruins92 on Jul 19, 2005 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

The community has spoken.
For your penance, you must put the movie online, and suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous criticisms.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 19, 2005 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome, hilarious diary.
During the second game of the playoffs against the Twins I left work early and went to the game. I didn't have tickets so I drove around the pay lot until I saw some yuppie types that looked like they might have good seats. They said they had a couple of friends that were no shows, so I bought a ticket from them. I asked the guy to give me price break because I didn't have a lot of cash and I wanted some beer money. He reluctantly agreed, and the seats were awesome! First base side about 10 rows up just past the dugout, right behind the guys who had sold me the ticket. When I went to get beer I discovered you could pay with a credit card so I used mine and saved my cash. I felt like I should have bought the guy a beer for giving me such a deal on the ticket but I didn't. I thought "Hey, screw it, I'll never see these guys again". I still feel a little bit guilty to this day.
Picker of Nits since '63. Or so I thought until I discovered AN. Now I feel like a nitpiker.

by McFood on Jul 19, 2005 9:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Selfish fandom. Bad mojo.
Our congregation must be as one, unified in our desire to push the A's forward. Your act may have helped to pollute the karma of the day, and should never be repeated.

To atone for your misdeed, you must perform a random act of kindness at some future game, preferably one that's at least in the pennant race.

If your finances allow, get a couple of extra tickets for a game that you'll be attending. Size up the line for tickets, and find someone who appears to be in your situation during that ALDS. Hand them the tickets, and refuse payment. If they will not accept your kindness, explain to them that you are repaying a debt. Your penance is not complete until you succeed in giving away the tickets without receiving compensation.

If you're truly strapped for cash, a beer inside the stadium can be substituted for the ticket. Again, you can not receive compensation for the act.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 19, 2005 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Young sinners.
One of my earliest memories is being a 5-year-old Phillies fans, and learning that the team had traded away my favorite player, a first baseman by the name of Willie Montanez. I cried my head off.

Montanez twirled his bat stylishly in the batter's box before stepping in, and he had a good year for the Phils. To my 5-year-old eyes, he was also Willie The Philly, and his perfect nickname meant that he would always be on the team.

The team traded Montanez for Garry Maddux, who provided the team with exceptional CF defense for the better part of a decade. I learned then that heroism is fleeting, and directly related to one's laundry.

I also learned later that when Montanez twirled his bat, it was because he was spitting tobacco juice on it, and splattering the catcher and umpire. Needless to say, Willie's career didn't last as long as Maddux's...

As for your penance, research the games in question that you rooted for Rickey's Jays over your A's. If possible, print the boxscores from each game in question.

Then, in a loud and clear voice at a setting of your choice, announce "(A's Player Name Here), on the date of (Insert Date Here), I wrongly rooted against you. For this, I am truly sorry." Repeat until you have completed the task for every A's player who participated in the game, and for every game in which you did this.

Only then will your soul be truly cleansed.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 19, 2005 10:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Please Forgive me
I am honestly a die hard A's fan.  I NEVER miss a game unless I absolutely can't prevent it.  I have never left a game early unless I was forced to.  I never gave up on this team even once during this season when many people had written them off.   In fact, in all the years that I have been an A's fan, I have NEVER given up on them. That said, I have committed some horrible sins:  
  1. I thought that Miggy was over rated.  This atrocious thought occurred during the 2001 season.  During the "Tejada!" drum cheer, I would say "Over Rated!"  I soon came to my senses and realized I was wrong, but I am still deeply ashamed of my thoughts.
  2. I never really liked Durazo.  One time he struck out, and I clapped.  That was a very low moment for me.  I reminded myself that I must root for the front of the jersey, not the back.
  3. I've been to PacBell Park and wore a Giants sweatshirt.  I was wearing my A's shirt underneath and took the sweatshirt off.  But wearing the sweatshirt at all is still a sin.
  4. I am not sure if this is a sin, but I wanted the Giants to win the World Series when they played Anaheim.  I mean they are both evils, so does it really matter that I preferred if the Giants won?
What must I do to be resolved of these sins?

by Devina on Jul 19, 2005 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Tricky work, this.
Some would say that since Miggy is no longer with the A's, and Durazo is out for the year, that you are absolved of your past transgression. But this cheapens fandom to a revisionist standard.

For Miggy Absolution, you must enter an AN game thread the next time that the A's are down, and attempt to pump up your fellow fans in a particularly heated and animated fashion. You must do this until the A's come back or the game ends.

To get right by The Holy Flail, view your next A's game through the eyes of a designated hitter -- i.e., do not move a muscle while the A's are in the field, and pace relentlessly when non-DHs are hitting.

Wearing enemy colors in the enemy park, even while keeping the A's closer to your heart, is a serious offense. To make amends, you must dispose of the Giants sweatshirt.

Finally, there were no good choices in the 2002 WS, so your prefence is not a sin. Having said that, it is still better for the A's that the Giants gagged up the game, if only for the sight of Dusty Baker getting what he deserved from Karmic Retribution for giving his starter a game ball before the game was over.

Now go, and sin no more!

"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 20, 2005 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

My dark and stained soul...
  1. I will bitch and complain and send hatred towards Ricardo Rincon when he's warming up (and not for luck-related/superstitious purposes), despite the fact that he wears the green and gold and therefore should not receive my scorn regardless of what he does. I just really, really don't like him.
  2. When the game is on and our pitcher is struggling early on, I'll change the channel during that half of the inning and only watch the A's hit for a few innings, simply because I cannot stomach watching the other team succeed.
  3. If the A's are getting blown out and I'm just watching on TV, I'll stop watching the game on TV in the 8th or 9th and just leave up the Gameday on my computer where I just check occasionally.
  4. I do not always place my faith in Beane. I questioned the Ramon/Kotsay trade, I questioned the Hudson/Mulder trades, I question the Byrnes/Bradford trade. No matter how many times I must eat crow, no matter how often I find myself wrong, I continue to question His Beaneness out of the sheer horror even when I know that he will be right in the end.
  5. I don't read the Sports section the day after an A's loss out of sorrow.
  6. When we aren't playing the Mariners, I kinda like Moyer and Ichiro.
  7. My close association with Giants fans has led me into a life of sin, where I occasionally watch the Giants games for reasons other than mocking them and giggling with glee at the bullpen meltdowns. I kinda like it when Noah Lowry wins, and I have a respect for Marquis Grissom and an affection for JT Snow despite my hatred for 80% of the team. The Giants fan in my life gave me a JT Snow bobblehead as a gift, and I have sinned by incorporating it into my A's bobblehead collection.
  8. I left early for the first time last season, during the 8th inning to get on BART when we were losing in an ugly fashion to the Royals, and while I like to think that the number of extra inning games I have been to since are the A's giving me penance, I cannot be sure.
"While I was there, it didn't always seem perfect, but when I look back on it I just might think it was perfect." --Eric Byrnes

by Kyli on Jul 19, 2005 2:32 PM PDT reply actions  

I got a DVR before this season...
and I fast forward through the opponents half of the inning too unless the A's pitcher gets a strikeout or a great defensive play is made, then I rewind and watch them at normal speed. If the A's get too far behind I'll do 30 second skip forwards until they get men on base.

I completely understand your not being able to watch the other team succeed. Sometimes I have to watch the Giants game to just enjoy baseball because I don't have so much emotional investment in the outcome.

Picker of Nits since '63. Or so I thought until I discovered AN. Now I feel like a nitpiker.

by McFood on Jul 19, 2005 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see much sin, my child.
1) Ricardo Rincon is here to test your faith. Welcome him into your hearts, and show the Devil that your faith in the A's is stronger than Rincon's struggles to justify it. True fandom is neither easy nor convenient.

Penance: Research Rincon's record of allowing inherited runners to score, and compare it to other non-closer lefthanded relief pitchers. You may find Ricardo is more lovable than previously known.

  1. You live in a world where the A's only succeed when they score runs, not when they prevent them. Please remember that when the other team struggles with RISP woes, their faith is being tested the same as yours.
  2. You question BB despite ample evidence of his genius, and yet your fandom is not total due to your unwillingness to Wear a loss. Consider the injustice, and strive to regain a childlike joy in baseball, that big deficits are just opportunities to make history, and that even the darkest defeat an be made lightger with time and perseverance.
  3. Not reading the sports section is fine. It is all too often filled with bandwagon liars anyway.
Your priest is weary, and will complete this task tomorrow.
"Yucky Head Bad Guy!" - my 5-year-old daughter to Manny Ramirez. She got ice cream immediately afterward.

by DMtShooter on Jul 20, 2005 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

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