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All-Star Game Open Thread

Maya_papi_tiny by Tyler Bleszinski on in News

I figured people might want to talk about the All-Star game here.  Although it doesn't hold that much allure if you're an A's fan.  I just heard on the radio through Marty Lurie that Duchscherer was told he was a "deep reserve" by AL Manager Terry Francona.  So I don't suspect we'll see Duke in the game unless it goes extra innings or something.  But that's actually fine by me.  The less wear and tear on one of our key bullpen guys the better.

The AL lineup looks like this:

Damon
Rodriguez
Ortiz
Ramirez
Tejada
Guerrero
Teixeira
Varitek
Roberts

I wonder if A-Rod will punch Varitek if Varitek strikes out?

The NL lineup looks like this:

Abreu
Beltran
Pujols
Lee
Edmonds
Ramirez
Piazza
Kent
Eckstein

The top of this order is impressive, but I've got to say the AL lineup looks vastly better.  Although the NL pitching is better overall.

Hasn't Fox been saying "This time it counts" for three years now?  Doesn't the "this time" imply it's different from the other times?  I'm just saying, perhaps it's time to come up with a new slogan, folks.

Let's go American League.  (the all-caps and exclamation points are reserved for the A's - sorry)

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Extra innings! Woo!
I think it should go about 16 innings, just to make Selig REALLY cry that even home field advantage can't save him from having to sit through more than 9. Plus, the Duke would be the hero when he's the last guy in the pen, comes out and pitches three straight to take the game to the win.

That wistful hope said, the NL lineup is a joke. Mercy rule may be necessary by the end of the fourth.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." ~Rogers Hornsby

by Kyli on Jul 12, 2005 5:01 PM PDT reply actions  

A's All Stars
While I would love to see me some A's in the game, I think it is good that there are not.
I like our players to be low profile which could lead to less costly.

by easyraider on Jul 12, 2005 5:04 PM PDT reply actions  

AL Vs NL
The AL lineup is so much better because the NL voting was so screwed up. Beltan, Eckstien and Piazza should not be starting. Maybe Eckstien should.Maybe.
Bruce Campbell deserves his own national holiday.

by pbruins92 on Jul 12, 2005 5:06 PM PDT reply actions  

* yawn *
{looks utterly disinterested, even makes occasional disparaging remarks about the All-Star game, watches anyway}
Nico

by Nico on Jul 12, 2005 5:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Strat-O-Matic
Hey, I know this is completely separate but...

I'm breaking in my brand new Strat-O-Matic set tonight in honor of not watching the All Star Game.  (I hate the All Star Game!)  This is my first new set since 1982 or so.

Does anybody have copies of the 1980, 1981, 1989 or 1990 A's?  I can't find these on ebay or anywheres!

Thanks all.  Back to the game...

by KingOfAmerica on Jul 12, 2005 5:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Chavvy the Allstar?
A few days ago on fox I saw an All Star game commercial and I swear Chavez was in the promo. Very Strange..
Bruce Campbell deserves his own national holiday.

by pbruins92 on Jul 12, 2005 5:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Yup.
They film the commercials before the season begins, so it makes sense.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." ~Rogers Hornsby

by Kyli on Jul 12, 2005 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude - I love your signature
Bruce Campbell, does in fact, deserve his own national holiday.  Army of Darkness is a classic.  The whole Evil Dead series.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 12, 2005 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its True
he is great. I have an EVil Dead shirt I wear to school and only 4 people knew what is was.
Bruce Campbell deserves his own national holiday.

by pbruins92 on Jul 12, 2005 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

"deep reserve"?
Is that anything like Matt Cooper's "double secret super background"?
Laugh while you can, monkeyboy!

by monkeyball on Jul 12, 2005 5:10 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL...
Good stuff. Now knock it off before people start yelling at you.

by HigherPie on Jul 12, 2005 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

ss and c
Those are just amazingly weak positions for the NL.
Having better years than Eckstein: Felipe Lopez, Bill Hall.
Having better years than Piazza: Jason LaRue, Michael Barrett, maybe Mike Matheny(!)

Not exactly an inspiring group.

That's their job. The good thing is that I don't care what they write. - BB

by andeux on Jul 12, 2005 5:14 PM PDT reply actions  

I think only his family
clapped for Macha
Bruce Campbell deserves his own national holiday.

by pbruins92 on Jul 12, 2005 5:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Mid game
Well I may still tune in mid-game to see if it's a situation where Duke might get in... Otherwise I'll be doing schoolwork and waiting for Thursday :)
Everything's cocoa and cookies once again--M. Urban, on A's win

by streetfan on Jul 12, 2005 5:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Duke! Duke! Duke!
Awww. He's smiling.

Ha. Love the response to Kenny Rogers.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." ~Rogers Hornsby

by Kyli on Jul 12, 2005 5:22 PM PDT reply actions  

wow...
Rogers got the hell booed out of him
Never play leapfrog w/ a Unicorn!

by smith1051 on Jul 12, 2005 5:23 PM PDT reply actions  

oh thank goodness they booed kenny rogers....
anyone going to go see him pitch on thursday in oakland?
There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jul 12, 2005 5:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Damn.
The sparks/fireworks didn't set A-Rod or Manny on fire. There goes the only hope for the game.

This is still better than ESPN's been today. I've seen Kirk Gibson's HR three times today while flipping past it -- that's what I got the joys of waking up to this morning.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." ~Rogers Hornsby

by Kyli on Jul 12, 2005 5:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Just wondering,
shouldn't there be a Pre-All-Star game to determine who has home-field advantage for the All-Star game?
Nico

by Nico on Jul 12, 2005 5:28 PM PDT reply actions  

I think...
The winner of the World Series should have home field for the All-Star game. That way, the Series will mean something.

by HigherPie on Jul 12, 2005 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

no kidding!
Otherwise, why play the world series?? Once you win, that's it! Nothing else! No more games, no more suspense, you have to go home for the next few months until spring training starts! At least make it worthwhile!!!

*sheesh*

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jul 12, 2005 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

That sure didn't sound...
like the British national anthem
Never play leapfrog w/ a Unicorn!

by smith1051 on Jul 12, 2005 5:32 PM PDT reply actions  

I didn't think so either.
But this is coming from the person who gets "O' Christmas Tree" and "O' Canada" confused.

by Jennifer on Jul 12, 2005 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL
It sounded like "My Country Tis of Thee"
Never play leapfrog w/ a Unicorn!

by smith1051 on Jul 12, 2005 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

it was, we took their anthem and changed the words
I took a torpedo through the lower abdomen while on patrol in the north Atlantic. They replaced my entire bowel with hemp. Clogs easily. -Loyd Bridges

by robber23 on Jul 12, 2005 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just looked it up...
and you are right - thanx for clarifying that.

How pathetic are we to take somebodies national anthem and change the words?

Never play leapfrog w/ a Unicorn!

by smith1051 on Jul 12, 2005 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well
It was our anthem, too, before we split off in 1776.

By the way, according to Wikipedia, "The same melody is the national anthem of Liechtenstein and has served as an anthem for Denmark, Germany, Russia, Sweden and Switzerland."

Popular tune.

by iglew on Jul 12, 2005 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate FOX.
Just start the game!!

Good choice on the Anthem!

<shivers>

by Jennifer on Jul 12, 2005 5:34 PM PDT reply actions  

yea duke looked good
I took a torpedo through the lower abdomen while on patrol in the north Atlantic. They replaced my entire bowel with hemp. Clogs easily. -Loyd Bridges

by robber23 on Jul 12, 2005 5:39 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm confused
What does the All Star game have to do with the movie Fantastic Four?
There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jul 12, 2005 5:40 PM PDT reply actions  

$$$$$$$, remember the spiderman bases
I took a torpedo through the lower abdomen while on patrol in the north Atlantic. They replaced my entire bowel with hemp. Clogs easily. -Loyd Bridges

by robber23 on Jul 12, 2005 5:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Why is Macha ...
... batting Hatteberg cleanup again?

Whoops! Damn. Forgot to turn my autoblogger off.

Laugh while you can, monkeyboy!

by monkeyball on Jul 12, 2005 5:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I hate
Scooter
Bruce Campbell deserves his own national holiday.

by pbruins92 on Jul 12, 2005 5:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah
Holding a bat is just like playing a piano
"Baseball is dull only to dull minds."
Red Barber, announcer

by Furious George on Jul 12, 2005 5:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow.
Who is this Tejada guy? He's good.

by Jennifer on Jul 12, 2005 5:48 PM PDT reply actions  

I think he is a...
a rookie or something.  
Never play leapfrog w/ a Unicorn!

by smith1051 on Jul 12, 2005 5:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Naw
I think he is a pitcher for the Phillies

by easyraider on Jul 12, 2005 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm totally uninterested in the ASG
And lots of guys I don't like are playing. That said, I shall be watching the whole thing. <sighs>

by Squeaky on Jul 12, 2005 5:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Ditto.
There is so much I could be doing.

BUT WHAT IF A-Rod and Albert Pujols get into a fight?!? I would miss it!!

by Jennifer on Jul 12, 2005 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet Pujols would have
A-Rod tapping out before anything really interesing happened.

by Jennifer on Jul 12, 2005 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

No doubt.
I would LOVE to see that. (A-Rod tapping out) I think it would make my year.

by Squeaky on Jul 12, 2005 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Buehrle sucks so bad,
he usually can't even last 6 innings. Like tonight, for example--just watch...
Nico

by Nico on Jul 12, 2005 5:53 PM PDT reply actions  

He'll be knocked out before the third
... is my prediction.

by orange2299 @ Athletics Nation on Jul 12, 2005 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Johnny Damon...
... probably the least deserving of the Red Sox All-Star starters, promptly grounds out.

by orange2299 @ Athletics Nation on Jul 12, 2005 5:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Red Sox batters
generate all three outs for the AL in the first inning.

Amazingly, had they traded for A-Rod, that would have been an all Red Sox top four...

by orange2299 @ Athletics Nation on Jul 12, 2005 5:58 PM PDT reply actions  

White shoes
A-Rod looks awful in those bright white shoes.
"Baseball is dull only to dull minds."
Red Barber, announcer

by Furious George on Jul 12, 2005 5:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Duke
Looked very happy. I'm very happy FOR him. :)

by rookieoftheyear on Jul 12, 2005 6:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Quick question
Suppose Manny Ramirez comes to the plate in the bottom of the 9th (for some reason he's still in the game) with the bases loaded and nobody out, with the AL trailing by one.  What do you want him to do?
  1. Get the game-winning hit.
  2. Drive in the tying run with a sacrifice fly.
  3. Pop out, allowing someone else to win the game for the AL.
  4. Ground into a triple play.

by orange2299 @ Athletics Nation on Jul 12, 2005 6:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Grand Slam!
oh wait, this game has no affect on my fantasy team....

by OAKobsession on Jul 12, 2005 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

3
Though complete humiliation would be nice...I'd rather the AL win by someone else.

by Squeaky on Jul 12, 2005 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

go miggy!!!
oh wait, I'm not watching this game...
There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jul 12, 2005 6:11 PM PDT reply actions  

miggy!!!!!
yeah! now the only thing remaining on my list, is fatolo to blow it

by OAKobsession on Jul 12, 2005 6:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah Miggy!
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." ~Rogers Hornsby

by Kyli on Jul 12, 2005 6:12 PM PDT reply actions  

this is the one time a year, Miggy can be on
our team again.
I took a torpedo through the lower abdomen while on patrol in the north Atlantic. They replaced my entire bowel with hemp. Clogs easily. -Loyd Bridges

by robber23 on Jul 12, 2005 6:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Roberts!

by orange2299 @ Athletics Nation on Jul 12, 2005 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Totally confused...
Marco...Roberts? <does not compute> lol

by Squeaky on Jul 12, 2005 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I miss you Miggy !
sometimes you can't just root for laundry.
It could be worse, we could be Giants fans.

by vk on Jul 12, 2005 6:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Whew! Done putting up dots for the day...
Now I can sit back and watch...this...I guess... :)
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by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 12, 2005 6:23 PM PDT reply actions  

I think
One of Colon's thighs is equal to my whole body. ;)

Go AL!!

by rookieoftheyear on Jul 12, 2005 6:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Same.
Probably same measurement around his thigh as my hips. :D

by Squeaky on Jul 12, 2005 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah
Sheesh. I bet we could stand in a pair of his pants. One of us in each leg. HAHA!! With room to SPARE. Wow.

AL up 3-0!! YAY!

by rookieoftheyear on Jul 12, 2005 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is a kid
in my school who unfortunatelt looks nearly identical to Colon
Bruce Campbell deserves his own national holiday.

by pbruins92 on Jul 12, 2005 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's so scary.
::shudder::
"I think there's some closet sickos on this team, just waiting to bust out. Even Huston; you can't be a closer and not be a little off." Zito said.

by GreenNGoldGirl on Jul 12, 2005 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah.
If I saw someone who looked like Colon I'd run the opposite direction.

by Squeaky on Jul 12, 2005 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

HHRYA
They really can't figure it out?  They're the ones talking about the Chevy HHR that can be won if a home run hits one of those signs.  Morons
"Baseball is dull only to dull minds."
Red Barber, announcer

by Furious George on Jul 12, 2005 6:29 PM PDT reply actions  

what?
explain... the reason its confusing is because it looks handmade, and they put it over the chevy poster.

by OAKobsession on Jul 12, 2005 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clemens warming up...
Remember the year Zito was booted off the All-Star team so that Clemens could have one last chance?

Who would have thought that Clemens would pull through and pitch for another five decades?

by orange2299 @ Athletics Nation on Jul 12, 2005 6:31 PM PDT reply actions  

zito got revenge
remeeber the cy young, cy old?

by OAKobsession on Jul 12, 2005 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was annoying.
I couldn't believe they did that. MLB should never be forgiven for pulling that kind of stunt on a player, I felt so bad for Zito. At least he's got a rule made because of him now.

If only MLB had known... Though I suppose the Yankees would have rather known, before they bought the Hummer.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." ~Rogers Hornsby

by Kyli on Jul 12, 2005 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

rule?
what was the rule that was made? sigh sad memories of what they did to zito.

by Devina on Jul 12, 2005 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another RBI for Tejada
If the AL holds on from here, does he get the MVP?

by orange2299 @ Athletics Nation on Jul 12, 2005 6:35 PM PDT reply actions  

no
duke will get it, watch

by OAKobsession on Jul 12, 2005 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

arrrrgggggggghhhhhhhh
i missed the start and didnt get to see duke. that really sucks! :( i wonder if they'll have pictures.

by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on Jul 12, 2005 6:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey
I just found out that Mychael Urban is hosting on KNBR tonight if anyone wants to call in and talk some A's baseball.  It isn't often that station features anything A's-related.

Ralph Barbieri was literally asking how to pronounce Duchscherer today.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 12, 2005 6:42 PM PDT reply actions  

When?
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." ~Rogers Hornsby

by Kyli on Jul 12, 2005 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

DID YOU HEAR MCCARVER?
"all those hair salons on the west coast"

WHAT A DOUCHEBAG

I cant stand these losers on fox...it's like baseball for 5 years old.

by SwisherSweet33 on Jul 12, 2005 6:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Why did he say flied?
I am sure Brian Roberts FLEW out not FLIED out. Fox is baseball for 5 year olds.
Bruce Campbell deserves his own national holiday.

by pbruins92 on Jul 12, 2005 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

'Flied out'
is correct.  Any dictionary will support that, but the dictionaries are just reflecting empirical use.

In The Language Instinct, Steven Pinker uses "flied out" as a primary example of how the mind parses grammar.  (See <http://pinker.wjh.harvard.edu/articles/media/2000_03_landfall.html>)

If you say Brian Roberts "flew out", then you'd be saying he sprouted wings and got off the ground. (Only Eric Byrnes, super-hero, can do that!)

The prevalence of "flied out" is testament to the fact that most speakers of the language parse it as a noun-derived verb, not a verb per se.  The fact that an increasing minority, including you, is comfortable with "flew out" suggests that the noun association is fading.

by iglew on Jul 12, 2005 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Comments
Okay, I gotta weigh in with some things...
  1. Tim McCarver has that... ANNOYING... cadence of PAUSING... and EMPHASIZING... the most inane... details. Drives me nuts.
  2. Fox's dirt cam? Who in their right mind ever thought it was a good idea to look up at the batter and catcher from a bug-eyed gopher's point of view? Worse yet, this is the 2nd year they're using it - didn't they learn from the first time it was used?
  3. AL lineup just looks more daunting than the NL... it has for a couple of years now.

by tmail on Jul 12, 2005 6:50 PM PDT reply actions  

If the AL holds on, it'll be...
...what, eight in a row?

Despite it's unique status, it is one game where anything can happen. But I wonder why it's lended itself to long winning streaks by one team. There's times when the AL wins several in a row, then the NL wins several in a row. Is the AL that much better right now? Or is it just an amazing coincidence...

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by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 12, 2005 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Joe buck
comes xross to me like he is lecturing.   who ever said fox baseball was for 5 year olds......pretty darn close.....or the senile.

by ak_A on Jul 12, 2005 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

FOX IS BASEBALL FOR FIVE YEAR OLDS
ill take the credit where credit is due.....if any of you have been unfortunate enough to watch an Angels broadcast that's all Rex Hudler does, when he's not making a stupid comment, is talk about when he played.  I always think - dude, you're rex freakin hudler...just shut up.

But regardless of how you all feel about Joe Morgan I generally try to turn off the sound on the TV and either watch with no sound or find a radio feed that is somewhat synchronized with the television image.  These fox guys are ridiculous.

BUCK is the same moron who went off on MOSS for "pantsing" the Green Bay fans.

WHO ARE YOU JOE BUCK except for the son of jack buck and a horrible announcer on the side.

FOX BLOWS as does fox news, but no need to start on that....

by SwisherSweet33 on Jul 12, 2005 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

More
4.  Must they take up half the screen with the players name and stats?  And do they have to use stupid sound effects to alert us to when they're using the annoying, oversized graphics?
"Baseball is dull only to dull minds."
Red Barber, announcer

by Furious George on Jul 12, 2005 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

FOX Dirt Cam
Should be on the NFL games on cheerleaders plus  FOX would go there. Then their rating would double.

by pachydermOAFC on Jul 13, 2005 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hate the dirt cam.
Well. Instead of watching Macha look corpselike on the bench, we get to watch his ass?
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." ~Rogers Hornsby

by Kyli on Jul 12, 2005 6:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Ha Ha...looks like NL needs new thread Mojo!!!
Everyone should want Larry Davis as their boss...there would never be a timetable on anything.

by Unuscione on Jul 12, 2005 6:56 PM PDT reply actions  

as much as i hate the sox
i really like francona.

by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on Jul 12, 2005 7:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Me too...
He can be a rather funny guy. Kind of the anti-angst Boston had (and perhaps needed) before they won it all.
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by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 12, 2005 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's definitely cool.
Man, I wish he wasn't in Boston. He seems like such a good guy. But with all he's gone through, the dude deserves a great job.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." ~Rogers Hornsby

by Kyli on Jul 12, 2005 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Totally agree
I met him during Spring Training the year he was the A's bench coach, and he was super-nice and down to earth.

by sarajune13 on Jul 12, 2005 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

on the other hand
tony larussa i DONT like.

by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on Jul 12, 2005 7:10 PM PDT reply actions  

LaRussa...
wanted to bet that the NL would score in this next inning. Hmmmm... wonder if he was that confident in the WS last year?

by tmail on Jul 12, 2005 7:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh my, a thread for the ASG
Never crossed my mind.  What a treat....for some AN sarcasim.

by ak_A on Jul 12, 2005 7:13 PM PDT reply actions  

A's talk on KNBR
I'm hosting tonight from 7-10p.m. Feel free to chime in

by MychaelUrban on Jul 12, 2005 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow
It's after 7pm and you're not only HOSTING but you're POSTING... what a stud!

by tmail on Jul 12, 2005 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you, Mr. Urban
for giving us something else to do other than this game! Ugh.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." ~Rogers Hornsby

by Kyli on Jul 12, 2005 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hahahahaha
Urban is now my hero for shooting down the Giants fan who's bitching about the A's calls.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." ~Rogers Hornsby

by Kyli on Jul 12, 2005 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Typical
Giants fan whining about something he hasn't a CLUE about.

by tmail on Jul 12, 2005 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great At Bat
Teixeira vs. Willis... 9th pitch HR will Willis really bringing it in there. That was good.

by tmail on Jul 12, 2005 7:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Strange too
That's his first HR of the season batting right handed.
"Baseball is dull only to dull minds."
Red Barber, announcer

by Furious George on Jul 12, 2005 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's mid-game
Peeking to see if any relievers... ahem, Duke.... are in yet. Nope! Just a big 7-0 for AL.
Ehh, maybe I'll look in later....
Everything's cocoa and cookies once again--M. Urban, on A's win

by streetfan on Jul 12, 2005 7:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Rogers is in soon
You can watch him get booed again?
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." ~Rogers Hornsby

by Kyli on Jul 12, 2005 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, comes in great over the net.
too bad i don't get this audio quality for Buan's show or the A's game on mlb.

by ak_A on Jul 12, 2005 7:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Rogers coming in to pitch
Ugh. I'm going to lose a lot of respect for Francona. He's on the squad, but there's no reason the manager has to let him play.
That's their job. The good thing is that I don't care what they write. - BB

by andeux on Jul 12, 2005 7:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Seriously.
He should be the LAST pitcher brought in, if at all.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." ~Rogers Hornsby

by Kyli on Jul 12, 2005 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not Francona's job...
...to be the judge and jury of Kenny Rogers.
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by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 12, 2005 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have to agree with this....
Rogers was voted in by the players. Sure, it was before the incident, but he was voted in nonetheless. If the players all called Francona and said "Don't play him", that would be one thing. But the guy earned his trip.

With that said, I hope the NL team ties up the game here against him. GO NL!!! :)

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jul 12, 2005 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe he earned his trip
but Francona's doesn't have any obligation to play him.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." ~Rogers Hornsby

by Kyli on Jul 12, 2005 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

He also has no obligation to punish him either.
He's just the manager of an All-Star team, not the administer of punishment for Major League Baseball.
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by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 12, 2005 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's the manager.
If you player acts like an ass, it's not out of line to bench him. I think given that he has a number of guys who won't be getting into the game, it's not necessarily unfair for him to pick a different guy to get into the game. Francona has to pick SOMEONE to pitch, but why does it have to be Rogers?
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." ~Rogers Hornsby

by Kyli on Jul 12, 2005 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because he's there!
And as I said before, the matter is not in Francona's jurisdiction. Rogers is an available pitcher, so Francona will use him. That's all.
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by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 12, 2005 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

sure
He earned the trip, and Francona can't kick him off the team. But there's no requirement that he play, especially now in the "this time it counts" era where some of the pitchers won't get used. Rogers gets to play and Duchscherer doesn't? BS.
(Nice to see him getting lit up.)
That's their job. The good thing is that I don't care what they write. - BB

by andeux on Jul 12, 2005 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rogers doesn't deserve to be part of the ASG.
At some point, athletes have to start accepting the consequences of their actions.  It's ridiculous what they get away with.
Green and Gold since '73

by kent1 on Jul 12, 2005 7:36 PM PDT reply actions  

He's such an ass.
It boggles my mind that they think letting him go to the game is a good idea. I just don't get why Selig doesn't get that THIS is the problem with the damn game.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." ~Rogers Hornsby

by Kyli on Jul 12, 2005 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Athletes get a free ride in this country.
If you can run fast or hit a ball, you can get away with murder (O.J.).  Is it any wonder that hey have such a sense of entitlwement?
Green and Gold since '73

by kent1 on Jul 12, 2005 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's why A's fans...
... take great pride in watching our competitive $60 Million payroll thrive, while the Yankees and their All Star $200 Million payroll struggles to win.

In a nation where "money talks," we watch the A's and are gratefull!

"We're on a mission, a mission from God." -Jake and Elwood Blues

by BillyBall 81 on Jul 12, 2005 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Devil's advocate
The Yankees do have a better record than us right now, so we can't act quite so cocky yet.
"Baseball is dull only to dull minds."
Red Barber, announcer

by Furious George on Jul 12, 2005 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Time for a NL comeback!
...Let Rogers blow it, just as he did by "walking in" the winning run during the playoffs for the NY Mets!!!

A HR... RIGHT ON, let's go NL!

"We're on a mission, a mission from God." -Jake and Elwood Blues

by BillyBall 81 on Jul 12, 2005 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looks like no Duch tonight...
Gotta think Francona goes Nathan or Ryan 8th, then Mo 9th
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jul 12, 2005 7:36 PM PDT reply actions  

i hoping rodgers gets rocked
the game gets tied 7-7 and Duke gets to pitch the 10th!

by wilyc on Jul 12, 2005 7:39 PM PDT reply actions  

that's a start
or karma (via A Jones) depending on how you look at it.

by wilyc on Jul 12, 2005 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Welcome Kenny
Holy shit Andruw killed that
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jul 12, 2005 7:39 PM PDT reply actions  

andruw jones rocks
i love him. take that kenny effing rogers.

by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on Jul 12, 2005 7:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Awesome.
Man, Andruw Jones is a freakin' monster. Love it!

Time to catch up, NL! Make the dreams of Duke the Hero come true.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." ~Rogers Hornsby

by Kyli on Jul 12, 2005 7:41 PM PDT reply actions  

I think Kenny Rogers and Jeff George...
...are brothers from different leagues.
"We're on a mission, a mission from God." -Jake and Elwood Blues

by BillyBall 81 on Jul 12, 2005 7:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Great Call
Hillarious!
"Rebuild This"

by JSCHWAN on Jul 12, 2005 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was flipping through stations the other day
and Full House was on. I swear the Jesse character looked just like Swish!!! I did a double take for a second.
Everyone should want Larry Davis as their boss...there would never be a timetable on anything.

by Unuscione on Jul 12, 2005 7:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Two comments:
  1. Watching Kenny Rogers give up a titanic HR was fun.
  2. "Rarely does a trade benefit both leagues." That comment is stupid, even for Tim McCarver.
Nico

by Nico on Jul 12, 2005 7:45 PM PDT reply actions  

McCarver's what? About 105?
The game has past him by.  Why do the networks think we want to listen to aging athletes gripe about how much better it was back in the old days.
Green and Gold since '73

by kent1 on Jul 12, 2005 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

they should get
Jim Gray to interview him
That's their job. The good thing is that I don't care what they write. - BB

by andeux on Jul 12, 2005 7:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Ha!
More punches thrown.
Green and Gold since '73

by kent1 on Jul 12, 2005 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I might let Brad Lidge
pitch for the A's, if he asked nicely.
Nico

by Nico on Jul 12, 2005 7:53 PM PDT reply actions  

I can't believe ...
... I just answered the latest poll question with "A's will win the West."  But hell, that's how good they've looked.  Another, all-star related poll question might be:  how many A's on the 2006 All-Star team?

by rubin sierra on Jul 12, 2005 8:04 PM PDT reply actions  

that seems awfully optimistic
Chavez, Crosby, Harden, Street are legit all-stars if they don't get hurt or slump. Maybe Haren too.
But I can't see Swisher or Kotsay making it next year. There are just too many outfielders who mash, not to mention those who get in on reputation.
That's their job. The good thing is that I don't care what they write. - BB

by andeux on Jul 12, 2005 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

And...
...the A's better be beating other team's brains in throughout the first half.
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by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 12, 2005 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily who will be in, but
who deserves to be.
Green and Gold since '73

by kent1 on Jul 12, 2005 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is anyone else annoyed that they're remaking
"Bad News Bears"?  One of the best baseball movies ever.  How do you improve on a classic?  In an unrelated note, looking back on my posts, I seem to be unusually cranky tonight.  Must be the heat.
Green and Gold since '73

by kent1 on Jul 12, 2005 8:05 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm annoyed that they're remaking...
...just about EVERYTHING.

It's as if no one in Hollywood has an original idea AT ALL anymore.

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by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 12, 2005 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

You said it.
Green and Gold since '73

by kent1 on Jul 12, 2005 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES
I say this all the time.  There are no new ideas, just remakes and reality shows.
I think the new BNB will be funny.  It looks like Bad Santa with baseball.  Billy Bob can be a pretty funny guy.
"Baseball is dull only to dull minds."
Red Barber, announcer

by Furious George on Jul 12, 2005 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha!
Get used to it, kid.  Is '73 your birth year?  That would add up.

Here's how it works.  When they remake an old movie, that's cool. But when they remake a movie you actually remember watching when it was new, then it's annoying.

The older you get, the more old movies there are that you actually remember.  If you were born in 1973 then you're just reaching the age where they're going to start remaking movies from your childhood.  Someone who is 14 now isn't annoyed by it at all.

by iglew on Jul 12, 2005 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

i have it on mute
I'm listening to the KNBR web feed and watching the game in case Duke comes in or if there's a bench-clearing brawl or something like that...

Do we have to wait until Thursday to play? Can't the A's play tomorrow???

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jul 12, 2005 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same here....good multi task combo
knbr sreamed through the big speakers, ASG on mute, BBQ on the deck, fixing salad, swilling diet coke.

by ak_A on Jul 12, 2005 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think most of the folks at Comerica...
...think so too. I've hardly heard any cheering all day.
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by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 12, 2005 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I don't think he breaths
His voice is so monotone........I'm sleeeeepppy.
Now THIS is Billy Ball

by Masaryk on Jul 12, 2005 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Could you imagine...
...if the announcers representing the team of the batter did the announcing for the at bat?

I say this with Konerko up. <shudder>

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by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 12, 2005 8:08 PM PDT reply actions  

I hate the All Star Game
I have to wait 47 more hours before the next A's game.  SIGH.

GO A's!!!
Go Duke!!!

Oh yeah, FIRE MACHA NOW.

GO A's!!!

by AsGirl on Jul 12, 2005 8:09 PM PDT reply actions  

LaRussa trying to get all his pitchers in
i wish francona would give duke at least an out. split the last 3 between mo, ryan, and duke or something.

i just want duke to have an all-star moment! :(

by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on Jul 12, 2005 8:10 PM PDT reply actions  

I want Duke to come in...
... just to hear McCarver pronounce his name.

by Jennifer on Jul 12, 2005 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL
Dush.... umm, Duck....err, Dusherereeer ?!
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by streetfan on Jul 12, 2005 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably won't...
..but if so, put in Duchscherer for the first out. Then I can go to sleep. :)
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by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 12, 2005 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really wished
duke came into the game

by Oaktown Kid on Jul 12, 2005 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Geez, Pudge wearing so much bling,
the field mics were picking up the jingle.
Green and Gold since '73

by kent1 on Jul 12, 2005 8:16 PM PDT reply actions  

i really hope
chavez doesnt stink up the start of next season as well. i'd love to see him in the ASG.

by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on Jul 12, 2005 8:16 PM PDT reply actions  

wickman??
is there a single meaningful stat in which wickman is outperforming duchscherer?

by xbhaskarx on Jul 12, 2005 8:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Franco......get Duke in the damn game
I really don't like Hick-man
Now THIS is Billy Ball

by Masaryk on Jul 12, 2005 8:19 PM PDT reply actions  

If I were there, I'd be chanting
WE WANT DUKE! WE WANT DUKE!
There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jul 12, 2005 8:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Well...
...at least Joe Buck pronounced Duchscherer right...
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by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 12, 2005 8:20 PM PDT reply actions  

BOO
WE WANT DUKE! WE WANT DUKE!

will francona bring in mo? he knows the sox will face him soon. doesnt want to seem like he's tiring him out. mo wasn't even throwing.

by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on Jul 12, 2005 8:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Have they been mentioning who's warming up?
They haven't said who's warming up in the bullpen very much, if at all. At least I can't remember if they had.
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by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 12, 2005 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow
the game is so boring, i fell asleep even though i was well rested!!  i cant remember the last time i fell asleep while watching baseball.

by Devina on Jul 12, 2005 8:21 PM PDT reply actions  

YAY!
go NL!

more outs! more relievers!

bring in duke terry!

by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on Jul 12, 2005 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

How old is Gonzales
Geez, that looked like the 00' WS
Now THIS is Billy Ball

by Masaryk on Jul 12, 2005 8:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Rivera up.
What about Duke?!?!
Green and Gold since '73

by kent1 on Jul 12, 2005 8:22 PM PDT reply actions  

this is not fair
bj ryan is NOT better than duke.

$#($)@#*$@

torre doesnt even WANT mo in the game.

by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on Jul 12, 2005 8:23 PM PDT reply actions  

RIVERA?
NOooooooooooooo DUKE
Now THIS is Billy Ball

by Masaryk on Jul 12, 2005 8:24 PM PDT reply actions  

me!
its funny how i am rooting for the AL when i hate so many players on the roster.

by Devina on Jul 12, 2005 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is such bull
fire macha! kenny, why not pull for your guy???

torre ASKED francona NOT to pitch mo if possible.

i dont like you anymore terry.

by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on Jul 12, 2005 8:24 PM PDT reply actions  

i hate to say it
but when is duke going to the ASG again? probably not. meanwhile, mo has been to more than his share.

bitter bitter. more reason to hate the ASG.

by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on Jul 12, 2005 8:26 PM PDT reply actions  

come on ensberg!
DO something.

by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on Jul 12, 2005 8:26 PM PDT reply actions  

ryan and rivera are understandable
they deserve to be in the all star game.  

duchscherer's numbers are like 100X better than wickman's.  why couldn't he have started the inning?  i bet he wouldn't have walked his batter.

by xbhaskarx on Jul 12, 2005 8:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Text message?
Does anyone have Macha's cell phone in the dugout? Message him to put in Duke!
Everything's cocoa and cookies once again--M. Urban, on A's win

by streetfan on Jul 12, 2005 8:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Chad
Bradford has it.
"Baseball is dull only to dull minds."
Red Barber, announcer

by Furious George on Jul 12, 2005 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Francona, you suck!!

WE WANT DUKE! WE WANT DUKE!!

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jul 12, 2005 8:28 PM PDT reply actions  

FIRE MACHA!
come on kenny!!! why not stand up for your player?!??!

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on Jul 12, 2005 8:29 PM PDT reply actions  

So, was Duke the ONLY player on either team that
didn't play.....I think the A's got the shaft again.  At least Macha got some T.V. time.  I spotted the GG cap a few times.....

Next year: Crosby, Chavez, Street, and Harden

Now THIS is Billy Ball

by Masaryk on Jul 12, 2005 8:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Booo
But I hope he had fun... ?
Everything's cocoa and cookies once again--M. Urban, on A's win

by streetfan on Jul 12, 2005 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think so
maybe ONE other guy? Anyone know for sure? I lost track.

by rookieoftheyear on Jul 12, 2005 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Baez of Tampa didnt get in either...
I think those are the only 2 in the AL (i wasnt following the NL)
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 12, 2005 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

No
Danys Baez, Tampa Bay's rep, never came in either.

by OaktownTribesman on Jul 12, 2005 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

the NL
had a couple as well. isringhausen...did brian fuentes pitch? also billy wagner.

relievers always get screwed anyway.

by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on Jul 12, 2005 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think
Jason Bay got a chance either

by Oaktown Kid on Jul 12, 2005 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Woo-hoo!!!
The A's have home-field advantage in the World Series!!! Woo-hoo!!!
Nico

by Nico on Jul 12, 2005 8:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Good company, eh?
Oakland and TB players dont get in...but they put in Rivera, who's manager asked that he NOT pitch.  Ah well, at least Miggy got the MVP!  That's awesome.  We're gonna need Duke in the Texas series, maybe better he didn't pitch.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 12, 2005 8:34 PM PDT reply actions  

good point though
if Torre asked Francona not to pitch Mo, it's entirely possible that Macha (standing next to terry) just said, "hey, i only have 3 guys in my bullpen that i can trust and he's one of them."

by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on Jul 12, 2005 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's true
(We need Duke ready).
Hurray for Miguel :)
Everything's cocoa and cookies once again--M. Urban, on A's win

by streetfan on Jul 12, 2005 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmm
i love miggy and all and am so happy he got the MVP, but why do they give free cars away to PEOPLE WHO HAVE SO MUCH MONEY ALREADY?!? Miggy can go out and buy one of those himself.  why not give one of those away to someone in need?

by Devina on Jul 12, 2005 8:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Congrats Miggy!
That's awesome....Sweet ride too.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jul 12, 2005 8:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Given that
the RedSox are about to play the Yankees, and given the rivalry between them, wouldn't it have been funny if Francona had put Rivera in for the top of the 2nd and let him go the last 8 innings?
Nico

by Nico on Jul 12, 2005 8:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I can hear Tim McCarver now
 Tim (accenting the wrong syllables): Who would have believed that the Oakland Athletics, a TEAM so lightly regarded they didn't get a single PLAY-er into the All-Star Game, are in the World Series.
 Joe Buck: It is quite a surprise and Tony LaRussa I know is very delighted to be facing his old team in the World Series.
 Joe Morgan: I'm on another network, but I just wanted to butt in to tell you all that Oakland shouldn't be there and wouldn't be there except that they had Scutaro bunt in the seventh game of the playoffs and if the Red Sox had Foulke closing it wouldn't have happened.
It could be worse, we could be Giants fans.

by vk on Jul 12, 2005 8:54 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL
Awesome. I can definitely see that.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." ~Rogers Hornsby

by Kyli on Jul 12, 2005 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

harold reynolds: a's make playoffs
harold reynolds just said something along the lines of
"you might think i'm crazy but i think the a's will make the playoffs, they're 6.5 out of the...and 5.5...but it's the second half and not only do they have a bunch of young players but they have a bunch of young and talented players."

on espn???

by xbhaskarx on Jul 12, 2005 9:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Just checked in to say...
I don't mind not seeing Duke pitch in the AS Game.  

And Miggy was named the MVP -- WOOHOO!  :D

GO A's!!!

by AsGirl on Jul 12, 2005 9:31 PM PDT reply actions  

just got back from the game
my seats were right behind the NL bullpen and i was lucky to talk to former A, Jason Isringhausen.  He was so cool and so were all the other guys... the game was AMAZING to see in person

i took a lot of pictures so im hoping to get them on here soon so everyone can see the game from the stands! :)

yeah AL!!!  hopefully the A's will benefit from this whole home field advantage thingy... ;)

Living in the mitten is second best to being Canadian...

Lets go GVSU!

by Alisa on Jul 12, 2005 9:58 PM PDT reply actions  

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