AN Sixclusive: Part V of V: A's Manager Bob Melvin
Part I of this series featured Brandon McCarthy, Part II featured Josh Reddick, Part III featured Seth Smith, and Part IV featured Cliff Pennington. In our final installment, after the jump A's manager Bob Melvin addresses the crowded 1B picture, evaluating the young talent in general, leadership on this particularly young team, and his options for closers. The photo below is by our own Optimist Prime.
"I don't like to undermine my own players,
but the fish Cliffy caught was only this far from shore."
Nico: I had a couple questions about the early part of the season. With all these guys who are kind of at "make or break" points in their career - Carter, Taylor - I'm just curious how much you're going to give a long leash, like "give them 2 months and see what they can do" versus, "this is a performance based (level)". That has to be one of the tougher things you're going to have to face in the spring.
Melvin: Especially with the guys we brought in; there's going to be a lot of competition in camp. So, to answer your question: Performance based. It's difficult at times to evaluate in spring training, but it's what we have. I think knowing that as a player going in, "This is an opportunity. This is no longer a scholarship, ‘gimme' thing, I have to earn it," I think you find out what they're made of, I really do. I think there are make or break points for guys over the course of their career and sometimes it comes to this, and you find out truly what they're made of - and they find out for themselves, too.
Nico: What are you going to key in on most in spring training, because spring training's this weird environment where pitchers are on pitch counts, their velocity's not up, you're seeing AA pitchers - so it's kind of hard to figure out, "How good is this pitcher, how good is this hitter?" So what are the things that are going to catch your eye?
Melvin: Well, I said all along towards the end of last year that defense is going to be a priority, and it will be a priority for us. We're going to go over to Papago (the series of back fields right near the stadium) right away and use all the fields. I think last year they probably stayed over in Phoenix and just used those two fields, and I think it's important for us to understand that defense is going to be a priority. When you have pitching depth like we do, you owe it to yourself to play good defense. And we have guys that can play defense: Last year, Scotty (Sizemore) was new at 3B, Jemile (Weeks) comes up 1/4 into the season, Allen's over at 1B and he wasn't with us the whole time. The continuity's going to be important. Getting all these guys together, and making it priority, and staying on top of it alone makes them understand that you're going to have to do well, and perform, to get your reps here.
Question: On the current squad, of these up and coming young guys, who do you see having the potential to be (a leader)?
Melvin: I think that Brandon McCarthy has really taken it to another level, and he's completely reinvented himself. If you look at how he studies the game, he knows the numbers, and he's a different pitcher now. He knows what works for him - the sinker and cutter. He used to be a 4-seam, over-the-top, little bit of movement and breaking ball, and now he's a completely different guy and I think he deserves to have the title of an "example setter" for us this year. I think our younger guys - and we do have a lot of young starters that are going to get good looks this year - if they watch his preparation, they're going to learn something from a guy like that. So I think he has a chance to be, at least on the pitching staff, a leader for us.
As far as position players go, I think Chad (sic) Pennington is quickly becoming a leader too. He's a guy that got some big hits for us last year, and he became a force in the clubhouse. There were times when I wanted something done that I chose him to go send the message, and it was done very well, so I think he looks to be more of a leader.
And I think Kurt Suzuki as well - (he) took a little bit of a step back last year, at least his offensive numbers and struggled a bit defensively for him - (but) recognizing that in his preparation this year, he's in a natural position to lead as well. And then obviously Coco (Crisp), just leads by what he does, just goes out there and does his thing. Weeks will be a guy, but I don't want to put that type of pressure on him now. I just want him to do his thing - he doesn't even have a full year in big leagues yet. But I think the more comfortable he gets, and the more experienced he gets, he's a guy that can lead by example too.
Question: Do you see (Collin) Cowgill filling that role at some point too?
Melvin: Cowgill is my type of player. He comes to play. He sits for the bench for 9 innings, he's gonna find a way to get dirty on the way to the dugout when the game's over.
Question: What's your past experience with Cowgill?
Melvin: I never had him in Arizona, but I'm very close to their manager and he has a lot of good things to say about him - and I like the way he plays the game. So I think he's going to be a guy that's going to be a good fit for our club.
Question: With the closing role, right now it's sort of up in the air. Fuentes has experience closing, but is there a favorite going in?
Melvin: (Fuentes') numbers were good closing last year too. I think his best numbers occurred when he was closing. So certainly he's an option. Certainly Balfour, based on performance, is an option. Whether you want those two guys in more leverage situations in the 7th or 8th is pretty much going to be the decision-maker for me.
If a guy like De Los Santos or Devine, someone like that - you give them a clean 9th, knowing that these guys are going to clean the messes in the 7th and 8th - that's certainly a way potentially you could go. All those options are open, and I think it's going to be a little ways into spring training before we figure that one out.
Question: Where do you see Tyson Ross fitting into this whole scheme?
Melvin: You've got McCarthy, Colon, Braden will be back but not right away, and then you've got all these other guys (presumably referring to Milone, Parker, Peacock, Ross).
Question: You're thinking starting, or relieving?
Melvin: I think starting. He had a really good Fall league. I mean, last year was a tough year for him. He's a very talented guy, and if you look at his volume of work early in the season, at times he was as competitive as any pitcher on the staff. So the talent is there. I think he's looking forward to just getting a fresh start, and an opportunity to win a job. And I think in his position, that's all you can ask for.
Question: Similar to the "(pitching) rotation" question, you have the "1B rotation" question, 4-5 guys. Going into spring training, do you have a ranking in your head?
Melvin: Yeah, but I'm not going to tell you guys! (laughter, snapping of fingers) We have some options there; we definitely have some options. Brandon Allen, in my opinion, is a terrific talent that has never been able to work through a slump at the big league level. You look at his minor league numbers, gets to the big leagues, does well, as soon as he does poorly someone has already taken his job. So I think if he's able to work through a slump, I think that's going to be a big turning point for him. Now I'm not saying that's the direction I'm going - I'm leading with him.
Daric Barton is another guy who had a tough year last year, physically, all the way around. Now he's healthy, and I know he profiles into our system: He's an "on base guy," he's a good defender and so forth, and I know he's looking forward to re-proving himself again too. So we can start with those two guys. And the Carters, and Kila, are certainly in the mix. I haven't seen them as much as I've seen the other guys, but we'll have plenty of competition at that slot, and I think that's a good thing.
Question: You had mentioned how the 7th and 8th innings could be higher leverage situations, which is really not in tune with the "conventional wisdom," which is that the 9th inning requires a certain kind of fortitude -
Melvin: I think there's both sides to that. I really do. There are certain guys, like Jose Valverde, who is an unbelievable closer. If you brought him in the 7th or 8th I don't think you'd see near the success that he's had. He needs a little bit of leeway, to walk somebody; he's a "clean inning guy" that will get out of his own mess. So we'll see where it goes. We feel like we have some options, and we'll see where we go with that...
...Boy you guys are good! Get me away from these guys - I can't bulls**** my way through it! (And with that, they did get Melvin away from us: Newbob left to make way for Newjosh and Awesomebrandon, Ol' Pennington and Newseth, whose interviews comprised parts I-IV of this series.)
We hope you enjoyed the five installments of "sound bytes from FanFest". Now stay tuned for a very special episode of "The Golden Girls," as Dorothy, played by Bartolo Colon, runs for city council against Blanche and hijinks ensue.
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This was hilarious
Boy you guys are good! Get me away from these guys – I can’t bulls**** my way through it!
"Oh who am I kidding? The A's and Giants could stage a pillow fight, and I'd still care who wins." -67Marquez
This? Not so much
and I like the way he plays the game
Seriously…this expression. If I was to ever use the reverse (“I hate the way he plays the game”), I’d be referring to a player who can’t hit, field, tie his shoes, walk to the outfield, catch the ball…etc. I like the way he plays the game? Um…hopefully he hits and fields. I like that.
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I'm trying to understand this mysterious idea of "playing the game the right way":
I’m pretty sure, from this interview, that it has something to do with soiling oneself in an unspeakable fashion after sitting nine innings without actually playing. Perhaps someone with more experience in this self-soiling can speak further on this matter? Or is it an “initiate-only” sort of thing?
by paris7 on Feb 8, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I've always taken the right way to mean...
Someone who runs out grounders and therefore turns a bobble into a time on base as opposed to a bobble and close out. Someone who hits the cut off man, throws to the right base, hits it to the right side when you need it hit to the right side. Sort of the selfless acts that end up paying dividends over the course of the year.
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Thank you, and I have more questions.
- Whose grounder does Cowgill run out? I hope not Colon’s, cause nobody likes seeing a colon run out. (This is part of the unspeakable soiling, right?)
- Why did he hit the cutoff man? Was he making a pass at his girlfriend or something? Or is it somethign about how he wears his jeans?
- Who gets the dividends? Do they go to poor Chad, who is apparently “sic”? Did he soil himself, too?
Am I starting to get this?
The problem is when the phrase is applied to a guy like Steve Lyons
who “gets his uniform dirty” (and sometimes pulled his pants down on the field in an effort to clean up) but isn’t actually any good.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
I always get my uniform dirty at games.
Mustard, relish, beer… You name it!
I meant to note that this is the key mystery:
He sits for the bench for 9 innings, he’s gonna find a way to get dirty on the way to the dugout when the game’s over
The only reason I'm okay with that in this circumstance
ist that the guy who played the game the right way also hit 350 in AAA last year.
John 3:16
"If they want to pay me like Mike Gallego, I’ll play like Gallego." - Rickey Henderson
Very Good except Bob makes himself look a little silly
when he said Fuentes had good numbers closing last year.
LOOGY-land
That made me cringe. Fuentes was the losing streak all by himself. At least as I remember it.
Anyway, i don’t ever want to see him as anything but a LOOGY.
Nico - you omitted my q re: Jackson and Matsui :(
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DWish I have taken the liberty of copying and pasting it here, from your blog
Q: I’ve read in quite a few places that you’re a very big fan of both Conor Jackson and Hideki Matsui both of whom struggled last year – Jackson has struggled for a few seasons and Matsui is looking like he’s at the end of his career. What is it that makes you say, "hey I know they’ve had a bad year, or maybe more than one bad year but this is someone that I want to be a part of this club"?
A: You know they’re intangible guys. When you set a philosophy – you know Conor’s been with me for a while he was with me in Arizona and here and he knows what I’m all about – he is an example setter when he goes out there. I think if you really look, Conor after his sickness and some injuries never really got the momentum going like he had earlier in his career. It really was kind of a setback for him. If you look at his numbers in the second half last year until Brandon Allen got there it really looked like he was on the upswing to where he was starting to replicate some of his numbers from previous years. I just think it took him a while to get over one: the illness and two: some injuries and three: all of the sudden not being a starter anymore and having to deal with a different role. Conor brings a lot of intangibles. You say Matsui had a down year, for him, you look at his overall numbers. The time I got there to the end of the season he was pretty good. Now maybe not in his world but you creep a little bit older and the numbers are going to go down some. But he’s another presence guy who is just a winner. He is a guy that even if he is 0-for-10 and he’s up there in a situation where you want somebody taking that big at bat in the game, even if he is struggling a little bit you still feel good about him based upon his preparation and knowledge and all of those things. And he is a leader by example.
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by Billy Frijoles on Feb 8, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
I only omitted it because Jackson has signed elsewhere and Matsui isn't in the picture either.
(In other words, it was a lot more relevant at the time than it is today.)
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Fair enough! Haha
My reasoning for asking the question was this: I knew the answer would be “intangibles”, and surprise among all surprise it was the first thing said. What I was hoping for was sort of what that means, and while I didn’t exactly get it, it seems like the fact that they seemingly work hard don’t give up, run out stuff (the basic stuff I wrote above re: play the game the right way) and also I was curious if this was just a manager comfort thing, which indeed it was. I was hoping to get more out of it, like some sort of skill that Jackson or Matsui had that we just weren’t aware of, some specific they passed along to someone else or something but I didn’t get that.
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good ol' Chad. Chaddy. The Chad-meister.
Chadarino.
Fuentes.
Anybody but him as closer. He makes my whole body hurt. Surely Melvin jests.
I might have to do some emergency interventions
with some of my season ticket colleagues if Fuentes is closing games.
nice job! some quick thoughts (not deep, I'm playing a minute of hooky from work)
with all due respect to Melvin, with few exceptions you need to earn scholarship, and you have to perform well to keep them.
as for Cowgill: I know plenty of fans who come to sit in the stands every game, but you just know that before the game ends they’ll get their uniforms dirty too! ;-)
OT - In case you haven't looked at the Astro's starting lineup recently
here’s a link. It’s possibly more ridiculous than when Sweeney was our entire outfield.
John 3:16
"If they want to pay me like Mike Gallego, I’ll play like Gallego." - Rickey Henderson
We're Never Going To Get the #1 Pick!
Dag, that’s a bad team.
Why did the A’s have to build another 74 win team? I just want a ding dang top ten pick, dammit.
Yeah I think we could potentially even better last year's 74 if things break sort of right
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Me, too. Still, isn't this the case for just about any team?
I can imagine pretty much any fanbase thinking their team can have a .500 year if some longshots come through, some regressions head to the mean, and some umpires blow a few calls. Or am I wrong?
Yeah every team can point back to a critical point in the season where it could have gone there way.
The Pirates I’m sure could remember the point where there season could have gone a different way, but that’s just how it plays out sometimes. As far as our A’s, any way we want to put it, we have a completely different team from last year, especially last year opening roster. A different roster could have different results. Who knows how Reddick Smith Sizemore Weeks do playing an entire season. Suzuki can’t(hopefully) be worse then last year, and then the wildcard of having Carter and Allen with all their potential. The pitching of course is downgraded, but we didn’t have Braden last year, McCarthy was hurt for a couple of weeks, and Cahill didn’t have a very good season after going 8-0. So the pitching can hold its own. Its a big mystery to me the expectations for this new group of players, but like McCarthy said, we could be a 60 win team or a 90 win team.
Regarding
The Pirates I’m sure could remember the point where there season could have gone a different way
maybe a certain 19-inning game that ended with a horrifically bad call?
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Great game, bad call.
That took the air out of the entire city of Pitsburg. Who knows if that momentum could have taken them to the playoffs. Although Pirates and Playoffs don’t always seem to come to mind,it looked possible for a while early in the year. I proclaim the A’s will be the Pirates of last year, just without that down hill drop off a cliff. Ah wishful thinking must mean spring training is around the corner.
I was rivited by that game,
just because the Pirates were still hanging in there, they were a great story, and it was an epic game — and then to have it end on such a clear umping blunder was really deflating. And the Pirates clearly never recovered.
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Wonder how they will do this year
A Pujols less Cardnials (even tho they still have a really good team) and A Fielder less Brewers could open the door a little more for the Pirates if they come back like the 1st half team and also to the Reds. Should be interesting to see how that division works out.
Very fine
interview. On point questions with on point answers.
Did Bob tell you guys, “hey, underline this word when you put it in print.”
ack-A
Häägëñ Dääs
Actually, he angled himself a little funny when he wanted something italicized.
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Are you calling me fat?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Great interview with Melvin,
He had me laughing with that last comment. 1B looks like the big position battle of spring training. Since Barton won’t be full ready from the start, and Melvin appearing to already be leaning to him a bit, It could be that Allen will be our opening day 1st baseman. I like Allen’s potential and hope he can put a productive season. Melvin seem to indicate that he hasn’t been given much of a chance to play consistently, so maybe he is saying that he will get that chance now.
Thanks for the kind words, and I was really pleased that Melvin seemed to think
Allen needed to have a team bear with him through a slump. He’s a guy I have either an irrational belief in, or a “good instinct” belief in, and because he can play defense and run the bases a bit he’s a guy that if he does put it together could be a very valuable player (whereas Carter still has some built-in limitations, and for that matter same with Kila). I really hope the A’s will stick with Allen, but we’ll see.
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I have serious doubts about him
he certainly better make adjustments this year as last year he couldn’t hit a barn door that was 50 feet wide.
If it’s true they were shopping him, then that tells us what they think of him.
I hope he does get it together because he can hit the ball 10 miles.
I was suprised when the rumor came up
I’m not completely sure why they would want to trade him. I know he still needs development, but he is what they were looking for because he is a guy that has the middle of the lineup potential we have been missing for a long time, and the other questions is what could we really get for him in return? Apart from that, I agree that he needs to make some adjustments to become a better hitter.
Yes. I can be serious for a moment.
It seems like Allen has the biggest potential upside of all the question marks between LF and IB and DH. Why shop him? What do Pirate fans think about Jose Bautista, by the way?
Exactly.
He’s not the guy you trade in a rebuilding year. He’s a guy who COULD go Jose Bautista on the league, where others have limitations on what they can be even if they do excel.
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Allen is worth something to get excited about
When we first got him in the Ziegler trade, and saw that video of the bomb he hit in Arz, my jaw dropped. I couldn’t wait to see him in the A’s lineup, but the first thing that actually stood out to me was his defense. He seemed really comfortable and played like he belonged there. I guess after seeing CoJax play 1st base the previous couple of months could make anyone look like a great first baseman, but Allen really did hold his own at 1st base. If he could use that power effectively, then I think we got something good here.
Excellent stuff Nico
really well done by you and the rest of the AN group. Thank you!
by Tyler Bleszinski on Feb 8, 2012 7:52 PM PST reply actions
pitching depth?
What pitching depth? It seem like two tacos and a burrito compared to last year.
I've never heard that expression. Two tacos and a burrito seems like a lot of depth to me.
I mean you could go for the burrito and have a full lunch, or you could opt for the two tacos and still be satisfied.
Daric Barton "is an on-base guy"
That’s my new favorite euphemism for lack of power.
I’ll be wearing my Barton jersey first weekday of spring training (20th) and pulling for you, Daric.
great interviews
all have been really great to read – love it.
totally agree on the idea of letting Allen play through a slump; prodigious power and speed considering the size…yeah. however, i’d like to see barton back and putting up the numbers he did (and then some?) when he wasn’t injured…tough call there.
"I saw a curveball, that’s about it," Rangers’ manager Ron Washington said. "You can’t take anything away from the kid; he went seven innings, but it wasn’t any shutout stuff." - Ron Washington on Gio's performance and the 7 k's.
Thank you!
I hope people enjoyed them. They didn’t get a ton of comments, but I also realize interviews don’t always generate comments — they’re just hopefully “good reads”. I’ve lined up to do a few one-on-ones (exact players still TBD) down at spring training, so I’m jazzed about that.
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