The Closer Battle Between T-Rex and The Mad Aussie
The A's traded Andrew Bailey in the off-season and now have a huge hole at closer. Oakland's FanFest last weekend did not generate any answers, so fans are left wondering who is going to finish games for the A's in 2012.
First, some of the guys left on the free agent market:
Jason Isringhausen showed some promise of reviving his career last year with the Mets. He finished the season with 7 saves, a 4.05 ERA and 1.286 WHIP. He is supposed to be healthy and ready to pitch. Coming back to Oakland would bring him full circle back to the team where he made his first All-Star team and a stadium he pitched great in.
Mike Gonzalez is considered by many to be the top available free agent reliever. He hasn't had a winning record or ERA under 4.00 in three of the past 4 seasons, but when he's good, he's great. His career whip is under 1.25 while his SO/9 sits at a lofty 10.3 (and would be a lot closer to 11 if he hadn't thrown up an 8.6 in 2011). He is also a lefty, which the A's have preferred to stockpile the last few seasons.
Among the other reliever possibilities out there, Scott Linebrink, Luis Ayala and Damaso Marte could all be good fits for Oakland. Ayala had a great year last year with the Yankees (2.09 ERA, 1.27 WHIP), but has no real closing experience (18 total saves in 7 seasons). Linebrink is 35 years old and has fallen off in recent years, but might fit if the A's are looking for a veteran RHP. Dámaso Marté missed all of 2011 but might be a cheap option provided he can pitch again in 2012.
Internally, the A's might have hope Sonny Gray and his 0.45 ERA at AA Midland in 2011, is their star of the future, but he's a ways off and could be kept in the minors until he's ready for the rotation. Joey Devine had a great 2008 with Oakland, but has never topped 50 innings in a season and only has one career save. Devine most likely still has to prove he can stay healthy to get a shot at closing. Fautino De Los Santos is another option. He has top tier stuff, but has struggled with his command of the strike zone at times. Most of the other younger arms in the system still need time to develop consistency, which leaves the two A's veterans as the most viable options.
It is probably going to come down to Brian Fuentes or Grant Balfour.
Before Andrew Bailey returned last season, the A's turned to Brian "T-Rex" Fuentes. Rex posted a 1-8 record and an ERA around 5.00, while struggling with his role. Then, under Melvin, Fuentes turned it completely around. He went undefeated after the All-Star break with an ERA under 1.75. Fuentes led the AL in saves with the Angels as recently as 2009 (48 saves) and would probably be the clear favorite if it weren't for Balfour's outstanding 2011.
Balfour turned in a solid 2011, with a 2.40 ERA and 59 strikeouts in 62 innings. He only has 10 career saves, with 14 blown saves, but he has the grit and pitching ability most teams look for in a closer. He picked up 26 holds last season and has had some amazing WHIPs over the past 4 seasons: 0.891, 1.366, 1.084, and 1.032 in 2011. Balfour has also endeared himself to fans in Oakland as the "Mad Aussie," and takes his role very seriously.
Even though Balfour has the better numbers and is a bit younger (34 to Fuentes' 36), I think Fuentes should start 2012 as the A's closer. Balfour is a great setup man and should be comfortable staying in that role. Fuentes has a lot more experience and showed during 2011's second half that he still has the quality stuff that made him a 4-time All-Star.
If anything breaks down, the A's know they have options in their system, but hopefully they will add another arm before the 2012 season gets underway. Hopefully, whomever the Athletics choose stays healthy and provides a consist presence in the bullpen that the A's have lacked in recent seasons. Otherwise, fans could be in for another bumpy ride during those close, grind-em-out ballgames.
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I'd have thought they would prefer Sonny Gray as a starter
He projects as a middle of the rotation starter, don’t know why they’d give that up for a closer
Left out of the conversation is De Los Santos
but he has “closer stuff” and if he starts the season strong could wind up closing before too long.
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My same thoughts
They will leave the spot open until mid season when De Los Santos takes over. Beane has already said he is the guy they are looking at to be their future closer.
He's actually my vote for the start of the season.
I think he should have the opportunity to win it in Spring Training.
by OnlybuyBeaneJerseys on Feb 4, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
+1
why not give it a try out of the chute. other than further sharpening up his command, he has nothing to prove. He can get very good major league hitters out, often via strikeout. That’s the type of guy I want. He has 2-3 more seasons of non contention to build up the traditional “Bulldog/Killer” closer attitude on the mound – but he’s competitive and he has awesome stuff, with where this team is in it’s rebuilding, why not give him the closer’s spot? What do they have to lose? either he’s a closer or he’s a middle reliever. Might as well find out now!
Good Point on DLS
I was more thinking DLS is our 7th inning guy, but his stuff is killer when he commands it. As for Gray, I could definitely see him spending time in the majors as a reliever or closer before we work him into the rotation down the line. His stuff is too good to wait on.
I feel the opposite about Gray
He’s a potentially excellent SP who just needs minor league time to refine his command/stuff until he’s ready to join the major league rotation.
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agreed
unless he pulls a Bailey and derails as a starter forcing the A’s to consider him as a reliever, I don’t know why they wouldn’t keep him on his current path towards the big league club’s rotation.
I don't want to but Fuentes into the closer position
so that we can better use him when we need him. He showed last year that he doesn’t do well when overworked. He needs to be a 3 appearance/week guy, used as a Loogy.
I’d much prefer Devine, Balfour, or FDLS as the closer.
John 3:16
"If they want to pay me like Mike Gallego, I’ll play like Gallego." - Rickey Henderson
if we want to get anything of relative value back for Fuentes in a trade
it might not hurt to let him start the season closing some games, assuming he can do it (big ASSumption) – of course, that could come back to kick us in the ass if he blows up and further depletes himself of any remaining trade appeal. I guess if they deal him, it’s a straight salary dump anyhow, and we shouldn’t expect anything back.
Except "manager's job"
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Don't worry man
I think the 3 votes for Fuentes came from family members.
by OnlybuyBeaneJerseys on Feb 4, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
Because that always works so well.
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I dont see why it shouldn't.
And I say that in all sincerity.
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I don't either, yet it was once pointed out to me
that there are almost no examples of successful “closer by committee” efforts. My assumption is that the reason is simply “You don’t try ‘closer by committee’ unless you only have several meh options instead of one good option.” So it’s probably less that the concept is flawed and more that if you’re trying it, it’s because you have a group where you are going to fail no matter what you try.
Which makes sense: If DLS emerges as a worthy closer, he’s going to become “the guy” and there won’t be a “closer by committee,” but if he falters then he’ll be part of a committee — specifically a part that contributes to its failure (because he’s struggling). Basically if no one emerges as the “you’d want him every time” guy, then you’re going to wind up with a bunch of “You don’t really want him but…” guys trying to close.
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Another way to look at it is this:
You never have “3 equally good options” for closer because no one has “3 Andrew Baileys”. If you don’t have a worthy closer, then what you have is “3 equally bad options” — everybody has that.
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If Devine could get his command back
he would be hands down better than any of the others to close. IFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Fuentes should be the closer, and we should stick with him no matter what.
We want a top 5 pick don’t we?
Also we should have him pitch right handed.
WHAT!??!?!?!?!?!?!
The way he throws, he actually looks like he might be right-handed and just needs reminding
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He's planning a Princess Bride moment in his age 36 season.
“Why are you smiling”
“Because I know something that you do not…”
I think DLS and Balfour
would be more valuable in high-leverage innings
by sam8235 on Feb 4, 2012 5:38 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
I like the idea of Fautino De Los Santos becoming the closer.
He should be pretty good, and so maybe someone will overvalue him simply because of saves. FDLS could become a valuable trade piece next offseason.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 5, 2012 10:22 AM PST reply actions
With DLS,
He is definitely a possibility for the closer role, and even if he starts out the season as a set-up man or middle reliever, I envision him raking up a few saves here and there and eventually taking the closer role for his own. The kid has electric stuff.
Actually, if Fuentes bounds back to put up good numbers in 2012, he could be a nice piece of trade bait for the July trading deadline, for a team looking for a late-inning star to aid their playoff run (look at the Rangers and Uehara and Gonzalez last year).
Didn't even think of that.
Maybe use Fuentes or Balfour, see if they succeed, if they do, trade one (or both). Then move DLS into the role for the 2nd half of the season to see if he can handle the pressure situations going into 2013. Great idea.
I think Fuentes makes the most sense
I dislike him as much as the next guy, but I think he showed something during the second half and may have a sliver of trade potential left. Let him start the season as the closer and ship him out for a C+/B- prospect and let DLS take his spot.
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Sheesh. You don't even have to shoot yourself for a little old carpet stain.
I’ve disappointed myself and my other fan.
I figured you had at least six fans.
Specifically, parises 1-6.
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What, those old broken-down clones?
I had them recycled for scrap years ago. 2008 tech is a vast improvement. Still, they say upgrades will be available sometime in 2013 or later!
This made me think of "broken down clowns"
which made me sad. ;-(
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Upgrades or tricycles?
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Tyson Ross
as closer? He’s imposing, he has the attitude and the stuff. He’s really more effective as a 2 pitch pitcher. Other than his command, he’d be a perfect fit.
If he can’t hack it as a starter (health wise) why not? We have plenty of depth coming up at the SP position that should be here in a couple years – why not re-allocate Ross to the pen like so many pundits thought we should have after we drafted him?
also
Ryan Cook might be the type of guy that really benefits from the scenery change. If he threw more strikes, he’d be a candidate

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