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Bartolo Colon and the Myth of Rotation Depth

Jayson Stark of ESPN now reports it is a done deal: Bartolo Colon to A's on a one-year, pending a physical.

Yesterday Buster Olney of ESPN tweeted that the A's were in negotiation with Bartolo Colon. Then last night Bob Nightengale of USA Today tweeted that Colon had agreed to a deal with a team but won't divulge the club until he passes his physical. Then later yesterday Jon Heyman of CBSSports chimed in with a tweet that said that two teams rumored to be intrigued by Colon - Arizona and the Yankees - were not the clubs he signed with. That left one rumored suitor, your Oakland Athletics.

Colon will be 39 years old this May and spent last season in Yankee pinstripes going 164 1/3 innings with an even 4.00 ERA and better than that 3.83 FIP. While his xFIP was a better 3.57, he really gave up home runs at a similar rate to what he always had during his career (11.4% in 2011, 11.0% for his career). He bettered both his K/9 (7.4 in 2011, 7.0 career) and BB/9 (2.2 in 2011, 3.0 career) rates while matching his HR/9 rate at 1.1 which is somewhat noteworthy because while Colon hasn't played in pitcher's parks for a lot of his career, Yankee Stadium is particularly home run friendly. The 2005 Cy Young Award winner will be 39 so it is unknown just how much gas is left in the tank, and furthermore it is currently unknown not only what club has signed him but how much he has signed for though he received $900K last year from the Yankees. But whether it is Colon or some other veteran starter, do the A's need rotation depth?

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If you read around on the internet, you'd see lots of people who would answer that question with an unequivocal no. The line of thinking is that the A's have a lot of starting pitching depth. But do they really? Not when you look at it. It seems like Brandon McCarthy who was last year's "won the 5th starter job in Spring Training" guy will be the top of the rotation pitcher for the A's. For all my disbelief that what we saw from Guillermo Moscoso last year can be replicated he appears to be the #2 as Dallas Braden another pitcher you could put in either of those slots likely won't be ready by Opening Day but hopefully is sometime in April. So for the sake of this argument let's stick him in as one of the top three and go to #4, is it Josh Outman? Graham Godfrey? Do we go with a new acquisition like Tom Milone or Jarrod Parker? As you can see the decisions start to get more difficult, and remember this is giving a slot to Braden that he may not even be available for.

The point is there is a lot of depth per se, but there isn't a lot of "don't waste your service time, don't get rattled and spooked by MLB hitting" pitching in there. I don't think any A's fans want 2012 to be a make or break year for the likes of Parker or Brad Peacock or even lower-upside Milone. Likewise I don't think any of us want to see that much of Graham Godfrey, and there can be good arguments made that Josh Outman is far from a finished product still despite hanging around a few years. Tyson Ross is a perennial injury risk who has pitched terribly since his return from his last injury, and even looking at the "top" of the rotation, McCarthy is a perennial injury risk and Guillermo Moscoso is one year removed from being DFA'd by Texas and shipped to Oakland for nothing (which could be a major faux pas by the Rangers or could be indicative that he really isn't all that great - speaking of DFA'd don't we all wish we hung onto Phil Humber?).

By signing a Colon, or an Oswalt (Oswalt clearly being the superior pitcher) the A's can gain some additional flexibility with their rotation and not have to force one of the young arms to pitch through trouble. We can let these young arms ripen in Sacramento and blossom into the 2015 American League West Champions we all hope they can blossom into. Furthermore for any of these pitchers the benefit is that it is nearly assured they will be dealt at the line to a contender, providing further bang for the Athletics' limited buck. So I say let's hope we are the mystery team in this low-stakes bidding! Let's see what this old guy has left in his tank, if he can show us what we showed us in person on Memorial Day but wearing our jersey, it'll be icing on the cake.

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I think it helps to have a veteran on the staff

He’s got a lot of experience in high stress situations. Good for us if he goes to the A’s.

by Ran on Jan 15, 2012 9:45 AM PST reply actions  

I'm all for this pursuit and signing because it tells me something positively coming out of the Front Office

They’re not going to rush Parker, Peacock and Gray. While I certainly think Oswalt would be a more logical choice, being that if healthy he’ll actually net something at the deadline, Colon will probably be at least $3-4M cheaper. And if that amount of money is what is needed in order to sign Jorge Soler, then I would take the Colon signing over Oswalt as I’d much rather have Soler then anything Oswalt may bring back in return at the deadline.

by stranahanahan on Jan 15, 2012 9:48 AM PST reply actions  

I think it probably is more than $3-4M, could be more like $5-6 cheaper

If I guess Colon gets like $2-3M with performance bonuses? Oswalt could easily be $7-9M or so? Of course you get what you pay for. There is a difference between the two. I think that Colon if he pitches as he did last year will have value. Let’s not forget the Mariners got Trayvon Robinson in a three-team deal that sent Bedard to the Red Sox.

by dwishinsky on Jan 15, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I could not agree more, dwishinksy

I think the A’s rotation depth organizationally is a myth when you consider the bust rate of young pitchers. Signing Colon, just as a bridge to Anderson or for Parker or Peacock to come up mid-year instead of right away, is a great move IMO.

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by Nico on Jan 15, 2012 10:01 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

And we don't want to force that bust rate

By having someone get eaten alive and then have no choice but to leave them in the rotation.

by dwishinsky on Jan 15, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I like that this gives us the benefit of not having to count on Braden

And Anderson while also keeping the young guys developing at a reasonable rate in aaa

John 3:16
"If they want to pay me like Mike Gallego, I’ll play like Gallego." - Rickey Henderson

by A'sFanDFW on Jan 15, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

just one note of caution

Colón seemed to run out of gas later in the season. In fact, towards the end of September there were multiple reports of a significant diminishing of his fastball velocity, and that he was in danger of being left off the postseason roster. In 2012 he will be a year older, so it’s reasonable to suppose that he’ll have less in the tank and will run out of gas sooner.

by OaklandSi on Jan 15, 2012 10:04 AM PST reply actions  

flip him earlier

Just need to flip him earlier. Ten starts into the season, start looking to move him. If he is gone after 15 starts, that is likely long enough to allow of the the AAA young kids to come up

by dougald1 on Jan 15, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

This

Even if we can’t flip him for anything of value, this still makes sense

John 3:16
"If they want to pay me like Mike Gallego, I’ll play like Gallego." - Rickey Henderson

by A'sFanDFW on Jan 15, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

That is a very good point.

The A’s could conceivably go with a 6-man rotation also to see what they have as opposed to using a Josh Outman or Tyson Ross as a swingman. That’d aid everyone perhaps in a non-contending year.

by dwishinsky on Jan 15, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

This

I remember a few years ago when we rolled the six man briefly. Anderson was dominant consistantly hitting 97.. I think a Harden injury ended my dream(as was often the case).. Would rather we do it sans Fatolo though…

by Tony Nochelino on Jan 15, 2012 5:57 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

That's all nice.

but his value for the A’s runs out well before the 150 inning point in 2012.

Nick Swisher and Johnny Giavatella deserve treats in the Kaufmann parking lot.

by ChrisCEIT on Jan 15, 2012 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

Ok with plan….but not sure you should end with the word cake, let alone icing on cake. This is Colon we speak of

by dougald1 on Jan 15, 2012 10:06 AM PST reply actions  

That's what I thought of when reading this post!

I’m just not a fan of Bartolo Colon. I like the move to add depth to the rotation but I just have a hard time looking at the guy….I know, it’s shallow of me but he isn’t the most attractive fella. Will we go out and get Oswalt, too now?

Go A’s!

"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."

-John "Blue Moon" Odom

by mrod on Jan 15, 2012 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

i cannot and will not root for Shrek.

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by stm72 on Jan 15, 2012 10:55 AM PST reply actions  

Not even if he eats up all those innings?

"Feel so bad, feel like a ballgame on a rainy day"-Lightnin' Hopkins

by justANotherAsFan on Jan 15, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I know that this is probably not the place to ask this question...

But what is the deal with Dusty Coleman? How come he doesn’t show up on “prospects lists” (i.e. Sickels most recent)? Does he suck?

At one point in my life I liked Dave Kingman more than Rickey Henderson. I was an idiot.

by the_rozeboom on Jan 15, 2012 11:05 AM PST reply actions  

Thanks.

At one point in my life I liked Dave Kingman more than Rickey Henderson. I was an idiot.

by the_rozeboom on Jan 15, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

They had decent mlb ready pitching depth with back rotation upside

But not in the minors basically consisted of gray (still a bit far away), godfrey, banwart, in the upper levels.

by J.J. Miller on Jan 15, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

the cynic in me says this is just to avoid the wrath of the MLBPA union.

no way a 39 year old pitcher (unless his name is Ryan or Moyer) will do much to help out the A’s avoiding an utterly embarrasing season. At least if they go with all juniors, they would have an excuse.

Look at Ross his first time up (and Anderson too, for that matter). Bringing up a “too-young” pitcher hasn’t hurt the A’s in the past (it’s Ross’ injury-comeback that’s been bad, sure).

by rollierollieOxenfree on Jan 15, 2012 11:15 AM PST reply actions  

News tidbits

Colon turned down dbacks offer. I wouldnt do more than 1.5 mill + incentives.
Any mention of bringing back harden? Oswalt still wants 8-10 mill, so probably a bit too expensive for a short term pickup. Believe it or not, Ben Sheets has looked healthy and throwing in the low 90’s, how about him on a minor league deal?

Also Gio has signed a 5 yr extension with nats.

by J.J. Miller on Jan 15, 2012 11:19 AM PST reply actions  

I'm fine with any of those ideas.

I’m curious to see the particulars re: the Gio deal.

by dwishinsky on Jan 15, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Good for Gio

I haz a sad now….

:(

"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."

-John "Blue Moon" Odom

by mrod on Jan 15, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Yes, I miss him

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"i guess i just like beer"-stm

by Tutu-late on Jan 15, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd only consider milone and godfrey among the "mlb ready" group

No reason to rush parker, peacock, or gray. I also wouldnt be surprised if banwart gets some chances too

by J.J. Miller on Jan 15, 2012 11:48 AM PST reply actions  

Opening Day rotation

McCarthy
Colon
Outman
Moscoso
Milone

The top of that rotation resembles spaghetti and meatballs.

by BWH on Jan 15, 2012 11:55 AM PST reply actions  

I agree with your rotation.

(Hope this isn’t a reply fail.) Colon will get dealt at the deadline, and then you can slot in Anderson and Braden when they’re ready.

"You're all like big, fat failure turtles." - Edge

by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 15, 2012 12:02 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Injury risk and all

Probably a bit too risky to net much even if he performs well. He is an innings eater + an appeasement to the MLB good squad wanting us to field something close to an mlb team.

Baja been here

by bajablue on Jan 16, 2012 8:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd have Outman at 5

But otherwise looks good to start with Braden pushing Outman into a swingman when he is ready

by dwishinsky on Jan 15, 2012 12:15 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Is that a rhetorical question?

At one point in my life I liked Dave Kingman more than Rickey Henderson. I was an idiot.

by the_rozeboom on Jan 15, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe

Maybe the A’s can get him to work out with the Red Sox starting staff over the next few weeks…..as I recall Wade Boggs had some chichen with ever meal thing, maybe the Sox starters just upped it to include Beer?

by dougald1 on Jan 15, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

we're going to hear reports

that he’s in the best shape of his life!!!

When we played softball, I’d steal second base, feel guilty and go back.
- Woody Allen

by rhymeswithelephant on Jan 15, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Everyone is everyyear.

One day in the not-so-distant future it will be, everyone is in the best shape possible and that year everyteam will play to 81-81 everyone will share batting and pitching titles and sports will become obsolete.

by dwishinsky on Jan 15, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, a post about baseball!

Even if it is about Colon.

JJ Martin
The best way to catch a knuckleball is to wait until the ball stops rolling and then pick it up. ~Bob Uecker

by JJ Martin on Jan 15, 2012 12:19 PM PST reply actions  

He won't be flipped, most likely...

Unless he is put on waivers, or someone wants him September 1st, and then he goes for nothing.

By mid-season, the A’s should have Anderson back, and a couple of the younger pitchers may be ready to tackle the major leagues. But in April, everything is uncertain and Colon hopefully will be as he was last spring — strong and rarin’ to go. In some ways it’s the perfect signing, assuming he passes the physical and can pitch well coming out of spring training.

by richwol1 on Jan 15, 2012 12:28 PM PST reply actions  

He could be...

…but usually that means that the person won’t slip through waivers later on. Given Colon’s 2011 stats, I doubt anybody would rush to trade for someone who is 39 and whose stats fell off a cliff during the final two months of the season. That’s why I think he’s more likely to be a late summer trade (if he doesn’t fall off a cliff) than a trading deadline trade.

by richwol1 on Jan 15, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would he need to slip through waivers later on if he was dealt at the deadline?

I just don’t see anyone counting on him suddenly falling off a cliff. Especially given the cost isn’t high. He wouldn’t be dealt for a super-star. Look the Red Sox neared a deal for Bruce Chen for ONE START to end the year last year.

by dwishinsky on Jan 15, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Again, it's a question of what happened last year

Why would someone want to trade for him at the deadline considering how he fell apart the last two months of last season? Why not wait and take the plunge a month later?

by richwol1 on Jan 15, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Because teams get desparate

Erik Bedard – didnt pitch much of anything in 2010 (11 combined innings for the M’s A and AAA teams). Yet he landed the M’s Trayvon Robinson at the deadline.

by dwishinsky on Jan 15, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

However...

Erik Bedard isn’t on the cusp of age-related retirement; Colon is past that. Bedard’s health may be an issue, but not his stamina.

by richwol1 on Jan 15, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Bedard

maybe he should be on the cusp of retirement, due to not being good. He did nothing for the Sox, after the got him last year

by dougald1 on Jan 15, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

But if he pitches well all first half. I don't see why teams would suddenly say

He fell off a cliff at the end of 2011 oh no! Yet would ignore Bedard’s past recent performance… those are incongruent.

by dwishinsky on Jan 15, 2012 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

cheap

Colon will cost very little money wise. A team picking him up will not have to give up a big prospect. I would be happy having Colon start 15 games, allowing for other pitchers to get healthy (Anderson, Braden) and keep the young guns in the minors. If the A’s get a high ceiling, high risk A-ball kid in return, great. Likely the team getting Colon, will love the idea of them not having to pay much money and they do not have to give up a top prospect. If the Red Sox were going to give up two prospects for Harden and all his injury history, then the A’s can get one such prospect for Colon.

by dougald1 on Jan 15, 2012 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Try flipping him and you'll see.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jan 15, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

A man could throw his back out, trying to flip him.:)

"Trying not to rec a "F**k the Giants" post is like trying not to look at boobs."-anonymous
"i guess i just like beer"-stm

by Tutu-late on Jan 15, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

heh!

"Feel so bad, feel like a ballgame on a rainy day"-Lightnin' Hopkins

by justANotherAsFan on Jan 15, 2012 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

2 million

On MLB.com the the write up says that the deal is around 2 million.

If so that is a movable number come June or July!

by dougald1 on Jan 15, 2012 12:32 PM PST reply actions  

I thought you had to do that somewhere right around ST

tko bira, masturbira -- Croatian proverb quoted by elcroata

by WaddellCanseco on Jan 15, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah the more I think about it the mroe that sounds right.

Which also explains why there were taken off the 60-man at the end of the year. Though, if I recall correctly wasn’t Devine on it all offseason long?

by dwishinsky on Jan 15, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Mid March

Went on Transcation fotm MLB.com for last year, and the earlies I found was March 13th. So kinda looks like there is a set date that MLB allows the move.

by dougald1 on Jan 15, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Good move, possible trade bait.

But one of the most un-athletic looking to wear Athletics across the front of his jersey.

Off Topic- Screw ESPN they have the Moneyball movie on their ESPN shop listed under the giants and not the A’s.

by Athletix Man on Jan 15, 2012 3:28 PM PST reply actions  

Matt Stairs?

He’d be on that list too I think.

That is pretty b.s. re: ESPN.

by dwishinsky on Jan 15, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't forget, Sabey-Sabester does have an off-camera appearance

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by Englishmajor on Jan 15, 2012 6:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, Royce Clayton is in the cast.

Baseball is a stupid-making enterprise in that nobody wants to be singled out or say something dumb. —Michael Lewis

by iglew on Jan 16, 2012 12:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice write up! Is there any reason not to be in favor of this?

I can’t think of one.

tko bira, masturbira -- Croatian proverb quoted by elcroata

by WaddellCanseco on Jan 15, 2012 3:46 PM PST reply actions  

Thanks man.

I think this one is pretty non-controversial.

by dwishinsky on Jan 15, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Somewhat OT: Gio signed a 5 year $42M deal with 2 options for a total of $65M

Great deal for both sides IMO

tko bira, masturbira -- Croatian proverb quoted by elcroata

by WaddellCanseco on Jan 15, 2012 3:53 PM PST reply actions  

The Nats got a bargain

And Gio can officially say “I’m rich bitch!!!!!”

"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."

-John "Blue Moon" Odom

by mrod on Jan 15, 2012 4:24 PM PST reply actions  

Yes

tko bira, masturbira -- Croatian proverb quoted by elcroata

by WaddellCanseco on Jan 15, 2012 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Seems perfectly acceptable

aShould provide some innings to fill out the rotation and provide cover for the youngsters so that they aren’t forced into a big league spot before they are ready. Also not enough of a commitment that there is any danger of blocking any of the A’s pitching prospects should they dominate in AAA.

On a similar note, should the A’s consider going after Francisco Cordero as a closer? He’s been kind of left out of the closer carousel and could probably be signed on a one year deal somewhere in the $4M-6M range. The A’s already have a lot of money committed to the bullpen with Balfour and Fuentes but so long as it doesn’t affect the budget for acquiring amateur talent I wouldn’t mind the A’s bringing in Cordero to see if they could flip him at the deadline.

by OkayJay81 on Jan 15, 2012 4:44 PM PST reply actions  

And then have FDLS close?

At one point in my life I liked Dave Kingman more than Rickey Henderson. I was an idiot.

by the_rozeboom on Jan 15, 2012 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

How much would Balfour's stock gain by saving a few games?

I think Balfour’s value as a solid bullpen arm has already been established over the last few years, and I think that any team that puts extra emphasis on “closer experience” would still view Balfour as more of a set up man, even if he managed a few saves in April and May.

So I guess I feel like Balfour’s value will be roughly equal whether the A’s use him in the 8th or the 9th, but Cordero has enough experience closing games that a desperate team who still worries about having a guy who can handle the mental aspect of closing would be more likely to trade for a guy like Cordero.

Besides why not have two experienced bullpen arms to deal at the deadline instead of one?

by OkayJay81 on Jan 15, 2012 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

We had a slew last of experienced bullpen arms last year to deal but didn't

Bullpen arms don’t fetch much. Balfour might gain a little extra value from being perceived as a closer and used as a set-up man (Kerry Wood going from Cleveland to New York comes to mind, or Brian Fuentes’ Angels to Minnesota trade) Its minimal extra value but something. Middle-relief set up guys just dont fetch much of anything.

by dwishinsky on Jan 15, 2012 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Anything to keep Parker down

They really scared me with that “he’ll compete for a job out of spring training” bullshit.

by laserbeams on Jan 15, 2012 8:26 PM PST reply actions  

Same.

I don’t mind if someone is truly ready, but with guys where injuries or age/experience suggest that a 1/2 season in AAA wouldn’t hurt then it’s just self-destructive to trade a year of service time in a non-contending season for…what? And with both Parker and Peacock, it seems like starting at AAA would make more sense. Go with:

McCarthy
Colon
Moscoso
Milone
Outman —> Braden

and let others like T. Ross compete for a spot.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jan 15, 2012 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I dunno....

I think there is intrinsic value in a player “feeling” as though he has the opportunity to make the show based on nothing more than his performance. To me, it’s better that players always feel that if their talent rates the Show, then the A’s will certainly send them up.

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by alox on Jan 15, 2012 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree, but when there are clear reasons it makes sense anyway to wait a couple months,

such as “you’re coming off surgery” or “you’ve barely pitched in AAA” or “you’re only 20” then I think it’s just common sense to “err” in that direction. I think Milone should get a spot if he looks ready, because he’s 25 and probably as ready as he’ll ever be. To me, Peacock is the most borderline but I say “why not let him light it up for 2 months at AAA and then come up?”

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jan 15, 2012 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Well said

I don’t like service time games. If a guy is truly ready, I’m all for bringing him up even if it’s a noncompetitive season. Parker just had a medium AA season after TJ and hasn’t played in AAA. Rushing a guy when you don’t expect to be good (I do think this squad will approach .500, but they’re unlikely to be truly competitive even if there is a 5th playoff spot) is silly.

by laserbeams on Jan 15, 2012 10:31 PM PST up reply actions  

We need to remember that the goal is to be competitive in 2015

"Trying not to rec a "F**k the Giants" post is like trying not to look at boobs."-anonymous
"i guess i just like beer"-stm

by Tutu-late on Jan 15, 2012 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha ha, you're so dyslexic

But yes, the goal is to be competitive in 2051.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jan 15, 2012 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

5102?

the artist formerly known as inbillywetrust

by stm72 on Jan 15, 2012 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Now you're just being ridiculous.

5201.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jan 15, 2012 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

"In the year... 8585..."

" We thought the team, just might be alive"

"Trying not to rec a "F**k the Giants" post is like trying not to look at boobs."-anonymous
"i guess i just like beer"-stm

by Tutu-late on Jan 15, 2012 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, I AM old! :)

"Trying not to rec a "F**k the Giants" post is like trying not to look at boobs."-anonymous
"i guess i just like beer"-stm

by Tutu-late on Jan 15, 2012 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

It Helps

I’m not overly excited about this, but Colon is a veteran pitcher who adds experience to the staff as well as flexibility so that we don’t have to push young guys like Peacock or Parker.
Needless to say, the point you make about rotation depth is certainly a valid one. McCarthy may have pitched well last year, but the truth is he was an injury-prone pitcher for the White Sox and Rangers and never amounted to anything. Before last year, most people hadn’t even heard of Moscoso and Outman is also injury-prone and a guy who doesn’t have experience as a full-time starter in the majors.

by Sean Fortuna on Jan 16, 2012 8:19 AM PST reply actions  

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