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A's Sweep M's Retain Top Spot in Alphabet

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The A's won this afternoon 8-5 over the visiting Seattle Mariners to cap a sweep. While numerous times the A's attempted to give back the lead after scoring first when Kurt Suzuki drove home Brandon Allen in the second they never looked back. Trevor Cahill who has oftentimes looked lost this year cobbled together five innings of work, allowing one earned run on five hits and two walks, while striking out four. Despite a relatively low pitch count (83), Bob Melvin elected to remove him (no word if this is injury related, but my guess is it was a "he was beginning to labor, let's let him leave with the win type psychological boost/we do have an expanded roster right now" variety move) and a parade of Josh Outman, Fautino De Los Santos, Brian Fuentes, Grant Balfour and Andrew Bailey came in to secure the victory.

One of those pitchers, Brian Fuentes, who was being used properly to face the left-handed Dustin Ackley gave up a two run bomb that narrowed the score to 4-3. Perhaps the key play in the game came in the bottom half of the inning, when Ryan Sweeney hit a two run triple just past the reach of Trayvon Robinson to score two and make the score 8-3. The M's would counter with two more runs, but that play essentially sealed the deal on what otherwise would have been a ballgame with less room for error.

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All in all it was a good performance by the Green and Gold who went 5-for-14 with men in scoring position, while likewise the A's pitchers limited the Mariners to just a 2-for-11 mark in the same situation. 

One interesting thing was the absence of Michael Taylor in the lineup today. Copenhagen noticed a Joe Stiglich post regarding the omission

"You’ll notice no Michael Taylor in the lineup for the A’s. Manager Bob Melvin mentioned Friday that Taylor would start in right field today, but said this morning he had a change of heart. "I put my foot in my mouth on that one," Melvin said with a smile. "I’ll ease him in against left-handers. He’ll get to play some. I jumped the gun on that one. There’s a chance he could get in there (Monday). He’s not here to sit, that’s for sure."

At the risk of starting a debate anew here, I'd prefer we keep DeJesus in as much as possible to secure his Type-B status. That said, I do also like the idea of getting Taylor some time in and am confused why Bob Melvin didn't use a game like this (where we at one point had an 8-3 lead) to get some guys in, even if it was just some time in the outfield or pinch-running. With the expanded rosters and with the A's out of contention, there is no need for our starters to constantly play nine innings. For guys like DeJesus (and Coco Crisp as well) there is a value in having them stay out there and earn that status (I omit Hideki Matsui because I worry he would accept arbitration and therefore the A's should not offer it rendering his status irrelevant unless they've negotiated a gentlemen's agreement beforehand that he will not accept in which case he too should be included). But in a game like this, we can still have DeJesus get a few at bats, do things to maintain the status and have Taylor (or others) come in nonetheless. Same thinking applies to Balfour pitching the eighth. I am not sure if there were others warming in the bullpen (there should have been - you do have two mounds, use them both) but if you have a guy warming for a close game, and another warming in case it becomes a blow out, you can get a chance to see what guys like Carignan and Wagner have to offer. Why use Balfour with a five run lead?

Those are my thoughts on this one. Good game regardless of my nit-picking! GO A'S! The Major League Baseball Players Association wishes you a Happy Labor Day weekend!


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sorry

But Fuentes couldn’t even carry BRANDON ALLEN’S jock let alone shine his shoes.

A Kouzmanoff for the rest of us!

by OptimistPrime on Sep 4, 2011 5:23 PM PDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

But Play Taylor...

Melvin had to eat his words on this one. Gives you a pretty good hint of who is really making the play or sit decisions.

by turkey3a on Sep 4, 2011 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it Beane's move?

  Is beane wanting to keep DeJesus as a B FA and offer him arbitration? For a player to pass through waivers I doubt he would reject arbitration offer. I just don’t see teams lining up to sign him for next year.

by Arcman on Sep 4, 2011 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

per

cots these are the outfielders eligible for free agency in 2012

Bobby Abreu LAA *
Rick Ankiel WAS
Carlos Beltran NYM
Milton Bradley SEA
Pat Burrell SF
Mike Cameron BOS
Coco Crisp OAK
Michael Cuddyer MIN
Jack Cust SEA
Johnny Damon TB
David DeJesus OAK
J.D. Drew BOS
Kosuke Fukudome CHC
Jonny Gomes CIN
Gabe Gross OAK
Vladimir Guerrero BAL
Scott Hairston NYM
Willie Harris NYM
Raul Ibanez PHI
Conor Jackson OAK
Andruw Jones NYY
Austin Kearns CLE
Jason Kubel MIN
Ryan Ludwick SD
Hideki Matsui OAK
Nate McLouth ATL *
Jason Michaels HOU
Laynce Nix WAS
Magglio Ordonez DET
Juan Pierre CWS
Juan Rivera TOR
Cody Ross SF
Grady Sizemore CLE *
Matt Stairs WAS
Nick Swisher NYY *
Marcus Thames LAD
Josh Willingham OAK

The injured and option available Grady Sizemore is clearly the best player there, but David DeJesus is the most complete player not named Sizemore. Also I think the A’s have 3 of the top 7 outfielders on the list. Dejesus and Willingham should expect multi year deals this offseason.

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by Future Ed on Sep 5, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

it's probably verboten to mention it

But Grant Brisbee has a good article wrapping up the Giants season over at McCovey Chronicles.

He uses the Giants as a case against the idea of a 5 team playoff (two wildcards and a one game playoff between two wildcards) and he’s probably right.

by 4-6-3 on Sep 4, 2011 5:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Fuck the Giants.

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by mikev on Sep 4, 2011 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions   5 recs

this needs to be green ... and GOLD

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by doctorK on Sep 4, 2011 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

meh--

I’m nuetral towards the Giants… :] (I think).

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by anduriliam on Sep 4, 2011 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry to be late, mikev.

REC’D!!!!!

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by Tutu-late on Sep 6, 2011 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

by me summarizing it here, you don't have to go there to read it

And if you don’t want to hear it at all, just move on down to Nico’s post.

by 4-6-3 on Sep 5, 2011 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

and the reason to summarize a Giants' blog on the A's postgame wrap thread was?

if you really feel the need to direct people here over there, you could do a fanshot.

by OaklandSi on Sep 5, 2011 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

perhaps

not sure since the poster acknowledged that it might not be appropriate in a thread discussing the A’s game. That’s why I suggested a fan shot link. Linking it in a a DLD is another option.

by OaklandSi on Sep 5, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

maybe you're right there are other ways to do it

I’ll look at the FanShot thing, I’m not familiar with it.

What’s a DLD?

It seems strange to me I have to create a link to front for another link just because some don’t like the domain name the story is at. The guy wrote a good article. He deserves the credit not me anyway.

by 4-6-3 on Sep 5, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's not necessary to create something special to say "Hey, Grant over on McC wrote something good"

Frankly, if someone doesn’t want to bother they can just ignore the mention and it actually takes up less “space” than it would in a FanShot. It doesn’t have to be left for the DLD (daily link dump) post either.

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by Flashfire on Sep 5, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

That guy is an amazing writer

The main writers at McCovey Chronicles are fantastic—and I HATE the Giants. I rarely go over other than to take joy in their misery.

Still, there’s nothing at all wrong with directing people to good writing anywhere, and anyone complaining about that is being ridiculously petty and small.

by RLangford on Sep 5, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love the 5-team playoff

It creates pennant races. The only race still going on, really, is between the Angels and Rangers. Everything else is determined, as it usually is in a league featuring the Yankees and Red Sox and their money.

If you have a one-game playoff for the wild-card, suddenly the Yankees and Red Sox start fighting desperately for the top East spot, plus a whole bunch of teams are still in the race for the other wild card slot. It also means the Ray, Jays and Orioles don’t have to kick extra butt to get to the post-season.

by richwol1 on Sep 5, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think we'll see a lot of arguments like yours

With no real wild card or pennant races this September many will argue that means the system is broken and should be changed. The 5-team system would indeed mean there were post-season spots up for grabs still.

But I just don’t agree that just because you don’t have any races right now means the system is broken. It’s a long season, your record over it means a lot. In my opinion the teams that aren’t in have shown they don’t deserve to be in. And giving them a chance just because it makes September more perilous wouldn’t be just.

by 4-6-3 on Sep 5, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I should mention that's why I found the article noteworthy

Because if there was any group who would feel most strongly that the postseason should be expanded to keep more teams in, it would be fans of the teams that would be in under the expanded system. So to find a person in that position who doesn’t succumb to that is notable and when he explains himself well, doubly so.

by 4-6-3 on Sep 5, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

It figures to hurt NYY and BOS the most

That’s enough for me to say, “What a great idea!!!!111”

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by Nico on Sep 5, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think its spot on

why do we want to have bad teams play for one last spot in the playoffs. It like the NBA where the 8 seed never* wins a series.

*DOn’t bother correcting me if an 8 seed has one, I don’t care

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by Future Ed on Sep 5, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

i don’t know much about NBA, but i do remember having fun one year watching my then-home team. so, on the argument for “fun,” i give you the ‘99 knicks. they’ve had the best run as an 8-seed to date (i think), reaching the finals before getting shut down by the spurs. it was a fantastic run of 4 series, some tougher than the others. but i do think the best team won in the end. and that, perhaps, is the one thing to be said about long playoffs: less of a crapshoot. i may be proven wrong via mathematics on that point, but i do think in straight elimination, more rounds are a way to sift for the best team. this is me, finally getting to my point.

my proposition would be not to add a team to the elimination rounds, but to change the format that the 4 teams play toward the WS. i think a basic, fatal flaw in the current format is that it’s completely possible for a weak team to hide under the cover of favorable matchups, get lucky on a couple games to eliminate better teams, or having other teams eliminate better teams for you, and reach the WS without really deserving it. i mean, how fair is this?: out of the 4 teams going into the post-season in each league, 3 don’t ever see each other (in a bracket of A-plays-B, C-plays-D, and A-C both go to the next round, A never sees D, B never sees D, and B never sees C).

i’d make it so 4 go in and every team faces each other in 5-game series. instead of 3 eliminations series to arrive at a WS contender, you have 6 series played round robin. yes, that doubles the number of series, but it doesn’t extend the time-line that much, and timeline is really the only problem i see with the NBA championships—so while the current MLB format lasts through one 5-game series and then a 7-gamer (12 possible games); my proposed would take as long as a 5er, then a 5er, then a 5er (15 games). it DOES increase the number of games by a lot (but who’s against that?, not the fans, not the owners selling tickets… maybe the teams/players if they’re worried about attrition, but hey, it ain’t easy being a gladiator-millionaire). it DOES avoid the issue of having crappier teams join the party. and finally, and perhaps the best aspect, it DOES do greatly reduce the crapshoot aspect.

by AV on Sep 5, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

i like that

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by Future Ed on Sep 5, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

A couple thoughts...
  • Taylor could have started in RF with DeJesus in CF, helping DDJ pursue Type B status while playing the rook.
  • Good decision, IMO, by Robinson to go all out for Sweeney’s line drive — two runs were going to score no matter what if he didn’t try, and he actually had a chance to catch it.
  • Melvin continues to use the bullpen intelligently, even if it doesn’t always pay off. I like that he had Bailey up for Ackley in the 8th, but didn’t panic and go to him for Gutierrez’ AB, giving Balfour one more hitter to get out of the inning.
  • Man, when he hits the ball Allen really hits it hard. I continue to be excited about him as a hitter, but also as a 1Bman and as a baserunner. He was ready to go for 3 on his doubles if there was so much as a slight bobble or missed cutoff man.
  • De Los Santos needs to use his fastball more. It’s overpowering and mostly he’s getting hurt with sliders that speed up hitters’ bats. Yes, bury the slider and occasionally steal a strike with it, but remember that your main pitch is your fastball and it’s a good one.

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by Nico on Sep 4, 2011 6:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Completely right on the point about Robinson's dive

I heard them say something on the broadcast about how he might have been better off playing it as a single and I thought, “Why? The runners would be scoring anyway.”

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by Flashfire on Sep 4, 2011 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

the mariners announcers got it right

They noted the runners would have scored anyway.

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by PDXAthleticsfan on Sep 4, 2011 8:26 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

He also had a shot at it

It wasn’t some “try to make a play that isn’t makeable” deal. He just didn’t quite get it.

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by Nico on Sep 4, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes. He's also a very alert baserunner.

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by Nico on Sep 5, 2011 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like the way he plays all aspects of the game

even when he’s not getting hits, he doesn’t appear to take that into the field. Melvin made a point of how he doesn’t get too high or low, and just keeps working.

by OaklandSi on Sep 5, 2011 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

And frankly, as slumps go

I’ll take a handful of hard hit outs scattered amongst some Ks and routine outs. If that’s him in a slump, I’ll be quite the happy camper.

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by Nico on Sep 5, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's killing there.

Let’s face it, the big argument at 1B recently has been the old saw “Barton would have got that”. Well, we don’t hear that much anymore.

If Allen has any deficit in range something he’s sure working hard to do everything he can to mitigate it. He’s play so well at first base already. Imagine what he’ll be like after a few straight months at 1B?

It’s nearly impossible to imagine how the As have anyone in their system (or will soon) that could challenge what Allen can do for us as a 1Bman (at the plate, between the bags and in the field). The guy is a slam dunk.

I just want to mention again how amazingly right the guys at fangraphs look right now and how astonished I am the D-backs let him go so easy.

by 4-6-3 on Sep 5, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yup.

Which is why Barton needs to convert to third base if he wants to salvage his career with Oakland.

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by mikev on Sep 5, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Terrific comments

as pretty much yours always are.

by RLangford on Sep 5, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yay! Thank you.

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by Nico on Sep 5, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cahill was shaky throughout his start

in the stands we sighed with relief when Outman came out to pitch in the top of the sixth.

by OaklandSi on Sep 4, 2011 9:34 PM PDT reply actions  

I think dwishinsky hit the nail on the head:

I suspect Melvin thought, “Better to pull him after 5 IP, 1 ER and build on that than to have to go get him in the 6th when he’s in trouble.” Similar to the start at NYY, this was a step forward of sorts but not to be confused with a strong performance.

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by Nico on Sep 4, 2011 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

This was the best game ever!

If only because this was the first game I’ve been to this year that was a win.

by Joss on Sep 4, 2011 10:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Definitely one of the highlights of the season.

No one loves a sweep more than me. This particular sweep was made better because of how Seattle has been playing us this season.

by player20 on Sep 4, 2011 10:28 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

ok
He’s not here to sit, that’s for sure

except…that’s exactly what he’s done the past two games.

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by hero66 on Sep 4, 2011 11:02 PM PDT reply actions  

They did it to Carter, too.

Thankfully, injuries forced them (Melvin, Beane, Forst, Larry Davis?, etc.) to play Weeks and Allen and the team has benefited.

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by franks a lot on Sep 5, 2011 5:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

this year, they did it to Carter this year

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by Future Ed on Sep 5, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

He might have stood up, we don't know.

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by Nico on Sep 5, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good Game

It’s nice to finally get a sweep. Last time we swept was 6/17 – 6/19 against the Giants.

by Jason James on Sep 5, 2011 7:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Agree about Taylor, not Balfour

DeJesus has no future on the club, and watching him play is, frankly, boring. I want to see what Taylor can do. I want to see what Recker can do. After the AAA playoffs end, I’d like to see what Miller, Cardenas and Carter can do.

In terms of the bullpen, it really doesn’t matter if a relief pitcher gets into a game or not. This has nothing to do with next year’s team, or future teams. Getting MLB experience in the fall says nothing about how a reliever will fare come the next year. So play Balfour if he’s the best guy you have for a particular situation.

But DeJesus, and Crisp to a lesser degree? What’s the point???

by richwol1 on Sep 5, 2011 10:49 AM PDT reply actions  

I like DDJ and hope they resign him

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by Future Ed on Sep 5, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't like him and hope they don't re-sign him

As opposed to Suzuki, Pennington, Matsui and (to a lesser degree) Willingham, I have seen absolutely no change in his hitting performance from the first half of the year to the second. He doesn’t get on base enough, doesn’t get enough base hits, and doesn’t have enough power, to be anything but a lead weight to the batting order. In other words, he was given sufficient time to return to “the mean,” and well, at least in Oakland, this IS the mean.

by richwol1 on Sep 5, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Of course, maybe you actually know him personally

I don’t know any baseball players personally, but I know a number of writers. I still won’t read most of them, even if I like them as people.

by richwol1 on Sep 5, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

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