Guillermo Moscoso's New Pitch
by danmerqury on Aug 23, 2011 7:00 AM PDT
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PrintUpdate (1:30 PM): Kevin Kouzmanoff has been traded to the Colorado Rockies for a player to be named later.
Quick, see if you can name these two A's pitchers:
Pitcher A: 5.32 FIP, 3.47 ERA, 4.53 K/9, 3.47 BB/9, 1.36 HR/9
Pitcher B: 2.97 FIP, 2.90 ERA, 6.39 K/9, 2.32 BB/9, 0.29 HR/9
Pitcher A has a decent ERA, but it's just a mask on top of an atrocious FIP. He has a horrible K rate, and a huge HR rate. Pitcher B, on the other hand, has a tiny HR rate, strikes out a fair amount, and has an excellent ERA and FIP.
They're both Guillermo Moscoso.
A month ago, Moscoso re-added his cutter to his repertoire. Since then? He's been, surprisingly, one of the best pitchers in the Oakland rotation.
Click to enlarge.
The PITCHf/x movement chart on the left is all of his starts this year before July 30th, and the chart on the right consists of the five starts after the 30th. See the new purple set of dots that's below and to the right of the red fastball dots? That's the cutter. His new cutter comes in around 84 mph, a bit faster than his 80 mph changeup, but it's far slower than his 92 mph fastball. Most cutters are only a few mph slower than the fastball, and they tend to have more lateral cutting movement than vertical sink, both of which makes Moscoso's rather unique. If I had to guess without looking at what he calls it, I would have called it a slow splitter, or a splittery slider. It seems to move and act like one.
Whatever it is, it seems to be working. Before the new pitch, Moscoso's peripheral stats set off nearly every single sabermetric red flag in existence (insanely low BABIP, very low HR rate considering his massive flyball tendencies, enormous FIP/ERA differential). After? His BABIP actually regressed a bit to vaguely normal levels (.250), his ERA fell in line with his FIP, but best of all, his ERA and FIP have decreased by huge amounts, because he's striking out almost two more batters per nine innings. His HR rate has decreased to microscopic levels, but I'm uncomfortable drawing any cutter-related HR/FB conclusions due to the tiny sample size.
I don't know if Moscoso is long for the rotation, since he's nearly in the double digits on the SP depth chart, but this new pitch certainly seems to be helping his chances. Brett Anderson and Dallas Braden won't be back from the disabled list this year (and possibly even longer), so Moscoso should probably expect to have until the end of September to prove his worth.
The A's open a three-game series against the Yankees tonight (Brandon McCarthy vs. Bartolo Colon) at 4:05 PM PDT.
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It seems the A's still have the knack of developing/changing pitchers into effective MLB'ers.
He is inexpensive, and well worth having on the staff.
"Trying not to rec a "F**k the Giants" post is like trying not to look at boobs."
Thank you for the observation and the before/after analysis, dan.
"Trying not to rec a "F**k the Giants" post is like trying not to look at boobs."
What I came in to post
Oakland seems to be able to find serviceable MLB starters anywhere it looks for them.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Exactly.
You would think that they could take a hitter who has talent and teach then the patience necessary to increase their OBP, but they don’t. Go figure.
"Trying not to rec a "F**k the Giants" post is like trying not to look at boobs."
What good is a cutter to a thirdbaseperson?
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
Maybe that's the reason for all the errors this season...
They’re teaching cutters to everybody!
Get out the time-fracture wickets, Hobbes! We're gonna play Calvinball!
I have a non-related question.
I can’t find who the A’s moved to make room for Recker on the 40-man.
"Trying not to rec a "F**k the Giants" post is like trying not to look at boobs."
They have not announced it yet
Could be any number of moves. My personal guess is Barton to the 60-day DL.
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 23, 2011 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks, cup
I couldn’t figure out how they could call him up before the move.
"Trying not to rec a "F**k the Giants" post is like trying not to look at boobs."
I still think it's to DFA Doolittle.
by Rebuilding Season on Aug 23, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
No reason to DFA anyone if a 60 man move can be done.
I think a lot of us forgot about Barton once he was sent down then had season ending surgery.
Didn't see this move coming
Athletics
#Athletics select Anthony Recker from Sacramento; transfer Trystan Magnuson to the 60-day disabled list.
I didn't even see how Magnuson was injured
I wonder if it’s truly serious, or just no point in trying to stretch him out to return on September 20th.
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 23, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
weird, I knew he was on the 15 day DL
but they had said it wasn’t serious, just some shoulder tendonitis.
The Great Carnac would have
A Kouzmanoff for the rest of us!
by OptimistPrime on Aug 23, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Informative as always.
Thanks, dan.
It’s crazy how we seem to find guys off the scrap heap and turn them into serviceable pitchers.
I am shocked
I’ve been critical of Moscoso just being the luckiest guy on earth but you’ve “unearthed” something here. Great work
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Interesting finding dan.
What are the IP numbers for the before/after comparison?
Get out the time-fracture wickets, Hobbes! We're gonna play Calvinball!
By the way, I usually put this in the post as a little primer, but just in case:
Those charts are movement charts. Each dot represents a pitch that Moscoso threw. The coordinates correspond not to location, but deflection (in inches) from a perfectly spinless ball (ignoring gravity). The color is scaled to velocity, with red the fastest and blue the slowest. For example, the big red blob is the fastball. Since a fastball is thrown with backspin and a little bit of sidearm (as in, not completely vertical in terms of arm angle), Moscoso’s fastball deflects upward by 10 inches and tails laterally by 5 inches, all relative to a spinless pitch.
Wonderful post
and fully explains how he induced so many pop-ups last game. That cutter really ran in on righties.
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- Simmons Mailbag, 8/5/11
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 23, 2011 10:02 AM PDT reply actions
Lefties?
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 23, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Those graphs are from the pov of the catcher.
Cutters from RHPs cut away from RH batters, and run into lefties. It’s his changeup that tails into a RH batter.
Ah... well, that changeup did well last game too. :)
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— Timmy, Winchester, MA
- Simmons Mailbag, 8/5/11
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 23, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
He's a keeper... maybe?
It’s really hard to figure pitchers from year to year (or even month to month). Cayhill and Gonzalez figured to be all-star candidates (well, Gio made it actually) and contend for the Cy Young, but now towards the end of the year, they are arguably the two worst pitchers in our rotation. And we sent down a guy (Outman) who was pitching better than either of them have in the last couple of months. I guess that’s why you have to put a really high premium on guys who can do it year after year, rather than the one year (or half-a-year) flash in the pans.
You really thought Cahill and Gonzalez would contend for the Cy Young like Felix, CC or Verlander?
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 23, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Because Felix, CC, and Verlander are better
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 23, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
If Gonzalez ever gets a handle on the BBs, yes
Cahill’s first 8 games had me questioning my dismissal of him, so yes, I can see them contending for CY Young in the future
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
The Cy Young is about results
If Gio hadn’t really tanked after August 1st, his ERA and W-L record would’ve put him in the Cy Young longshot category, no matter who is better. It’s not a question of the best pitcher, but which pitcher had the best year.
Fair, but if you had to go by peripheral stats and predict it at the beginning of the year
Those would be the AL CY frontrunners.
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 23, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Frontrunners, sure, but that doesn't mean it was unreasonable to think that Cahill or Gio could have been in contention.
It depends on how you define “contending.”
If you take it to mean “having a strong argument for winning,” then not many thought Cahill and/or Gio would contend.
If you take it to mean “deserving to be in the discussion,” then that’s another story.
Get out the time-fracture wickets, Hobbes! We're gonna play Calvinball!
by UrgentMirth on Aug 23, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The former is what I meant
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 23, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
If Moscoso became a genuinely reliable Major League Pitcher
that would be pretty awesome.
by Rebuilding Season on Aug 23, 2011 10:49 AM PDT reply actions
The way our injuries pan out, it's probably best to plan for him being in the rotation to start the season
He’s probably better than Outman at this point, and unless Ross keeps replicating his last start’s performance, it’s not clear he’s any better than the Moose Costco.
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 23, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I really don't expect either Anderson or Braden to be back for 2012, sadly
We hope Ross will get it together and remain healthy, but that’s a question mark. Hopefully Outman will be healthy and effective for the starting rotation….
The A’s may sign either McCarthy or Harden (or both) to incentive-laden contracts. But no one should expect either to pitch a full season….so Moscoso looks like he’s worth keeping around.
it was pointed out to me that McCarthy has a year of team control left
so He will be back
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
except that he did sign a one year contact with the A's in December 2010
according to numerous websites, including this one.
Still need to accrue 6 years service time to become a full FA
absent being removed from a teams 40 man roster
most pre free agent contracts are for one year
then at the conclusion of the year, the team can decide to tender an contract or not. If they tender a contract, then the team and player can agree on one, or go to arbitration.
or a team can non-tender the player (not offer a contract) and the player is a free agent.
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
Very nice graph, Dan
did you do it with R?
2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too
I love how everyone is trying to extrapolate why Moscoso is having the success he's had since he's come up.
You may not like his methods, but he eats innings and gets results. He’s the A’s equivalent of Jack Bauer.
by player20 on Aug 23, 2011 1:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Sorry, According to JANE LEE.
I apologize for my brain.
by LoneStranger on Aug 23, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok, SuSlu just posted it so I guess I'm in the clear now.
by LoneStranger on Aug 23, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
You JUST started apologizing for your brain??
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. —Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
It was having such problems, I was finally able to wrest control away for long enough to make that statement.
Anyway, I should have known that I could have kept quiet and Susan would tweet something similar within a minute.
by LoneStranger on Aug 23, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
He spends time out there in the offseason, or so Jane tells me.
So I bet he already knows the good ones.
by LoneStranger on Aug 23, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Surprised it took this long to offload him
Looks like he’s going to Colorado Springs, not Denver.
Don't you realise you'll find next monday or next Tuesday/Your golden shoes day
by PDXAthleticsfan on Aug 23, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Chance card? Go directly to COL.
by player20 on Aug 23, 2011 1:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Still in Colorado, still in the rockies org
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
Now does LaRoche get the majority of time at 3B in Sac now or perhaps Parker gets bumped for a
brief AAA cameo.
Why not? It may be the only shot for a while.
"Trying not to rec a "F**k the Giants" post is like trying not to look at boobs."
Huh, Parker's been quietly holding his own in AA.
2010 high-A: 116 wOBA+
2011 AA: 104 wOBA+
Not great, but better than I had thought. Silly Cal League.
So, he's on track for about an 80 wOBA+ in the majors
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 23, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
there was a good article the other day (I think I put it in a DLD)
About how PCL stats are really inflated. We need to start playing our MiLB guys in a subterranean stadium or something.
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 23, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
well salt lake, colorado springs, Albuquerque
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
We still haven't gotten our PTBNL for Ellis, right?
So now we get two of ’em, or a better one than we would have gotten before?
Don't you realise you'll find next monday or next Tuesday/Your golden shoes day
by PDXAthleticsfan on Aug 23, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Slusser says PTBNL, so if she's right, a notch more than jack shit.
Don't you realise you'll find next monday or next Tuesday/Your golden shoes day
by PDXAthleticsfan on Aug 23, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
What does "future considerations" usually mean?
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. —Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
you're on it.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. —Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
Do I don't get this
If I’m selling someone an old pickup truck, and I give them the deed and the keys in exchange for future considerations or a car to be named later, there’s no way I’ll get anything valuable back, because they already got my truck. How does this work any differently. I know sometimes a car-to-be-named-later has actually already been decided on, it just can’t be sold because it’s at the mechanic’s, but otherwise…
FIRE ILIKEIKE
by ilikeike on Aug 23, 2011 2:15 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Not only that, but they probably agreed on the parameters for the completion of the transaction.
"Trying not to rec a "F**k the Giants" post is like trying not to look at boobs."
Oops: SO I don't get this
FIRE ILIKEIKE
by ilikeike on Aug 23, 2011 2:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Often times, the buyer will provide the seller a list of players
and the seller will pick among them. If the seller doesn’t like any options he can say, how about $25,000 or $50,000 or something.
Don't you realise you'll find next monday or next Tuesday/Your golden shoes day
by PDXAthleticsfan on Aug 23, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
That makes some sense actually
FIRE ILIKEIKE
by ilikeike on Aug 23, 2011 2:19 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
there are also rules that prohibit certain players from being moved before certain dates
But mostly it works because there are only 30 teams that can trade among each other, really its the honor system
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
That, and, in this case,
it’s two teams that seem to have a good working relationship, given their trade history in the last five years.
Don't you realise you'll find next monday or next Tuesday/Your golden shoes day
by PDXAthleticsfan on Aug 23, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
And, actually?
I wouldn’t be surprised one bit if Kouz had a nice year in Colorado. Pitches don’t move as much up there.
There goes my 2012 promo idea
“Kevin Kouzmanoff free meatloaf night.”
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 23, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Somewhere Tutu cries himself quietly to sleep
Official Athletics Nation Rotating Tagline Editor - Pam liked my old sig better.
My thoughtful watermelon is easily mistook for an early American catapult.
DURRRR THEY’RE TOO OLD, BABIP IS TOO HIGH, TOO MANY Ks, DURRRRRR
hehehe. Naw, just lets me have fun keeping you guys updated on his play in the NL.
I really don’t take all this that seriously.
"Trying not to rec a "F**k the Giants" post is like trying not to look at boobs."
Bingo! I had never heard of him before rumors had the A's looking to trade for him.
"Trying not to rec a "F**k the Giants" post is like trying not to look at boobs."
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. —Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
completely.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. —Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
Don't mock my sadness.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. —Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
good point.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. —Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
Are you going to light a candle?
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 23, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
there there, cope.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. —Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
maybe he thought we would get claimed on waivers without the beard
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
I think it's ironic he shows up at Yankee Stadium, of all places, and decides to shave
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 23, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe he's trying to tell them that he'd fit in there?
by LoneStranger on Aug 23, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
walked into the wrong locker room and Cashman told him to shave
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 23, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow. I remember where I was when I heard CoJack shaved his beard.
by player20 on Aug 23, 2011 1:46 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
ken korach said that conor would shave before they got to the humidity of the north east
the artist formerly known as inbillywetrust
i remember the call: “is it hair or foul…? it is foul hair and it is GONE.”
by AV on Aug 23, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Next thing we know Suzuki will start throwing runners out
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
Someday, when I get younger, I want to be just like you dAN
This is awesome, thank you and I threw you a rec.
A Kouzmanoff for the rest of us!
"Do I have a hit in my teeth?"
A Kouzmanoff for the rest of us!
by OptimistPrime on Aug 23, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
That would be Suzuki.
"Trying not to rec a "F**k the Giants" post is like trying not to look at boobs."
So Suzuki's the anti-Allen.
“Suzuki got hit in the ribs to start off the sixth. Not surprisingly, the opposing team managed to turn it into a double play.”
by player20 on Aug 23, 2011 2:08 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
.
joestiglich Joe Stiglich
Chavez gets a start against his former team, replacing A-Rod in #Yankees lineup. #Athletics
…ohhhhkay, I don’t think I’m going to be able to watch this game now. I’ve made it this long without seeing my dear Chavy in THAT uni… I can hold out a little while longer.
So, you're saying the Evil Empire did this deliberately?
Those Dastards!
"Trying not to rec a "F**k the Giants" post is like trying not to look at boobs."
It does, however, put a fatal chink in their lineup.
"Trying not to rec a "F**k the Giants" post is like trying not to look at boobs."
NO.
Nonononononononono. No.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. —Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
...yeah. I don't want this to sully my image of Chavy.
For instance:
by whiteshoes40 on Aug 23, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
For some reason, he doesn't do a thing for me.
Go figure.
"Trying not to rec a "F**k the Giants" post is like trying not to look at boobs."
but the woman in the foreground is a different story.
what a nice, um, shoulder.
Don't you realise you'll find next monday or next Tuesday/Your golden shoes day
by PDXAthleticsfan on Aug 23, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
That's much better.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. —Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
You girls and your toys!
"Trying not to rec a "F**k the Giants" post is like trying not to look at boobs."
I wish.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. —Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
Yes?
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. —Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
You're a bot, so you are probably battery operated, right?
"Trying not to rec a "F**k the Giants" post is like trying not to look at boobs."
My wife said she was about to become a Yankee fan.
They got all the good looking A’s, like Swisher and Chavy. Sounds like a fight’s a brewing when she gets home.
"Trying not to rec a "F**k the Giants" post is like trying not to look at boobs."
Kouz is gone,
I’ve already lost today.
"Trying not to rec a "F**k the Giants" post is like trying not to look at boobs."
You got that right, bro.
She is bringing home pizza, so I’ll cool off by that time. She knows how to take care of me.
"Trying not to rec a "F**k the Giants" post is like trying not to look at boobs."
And they look hot on him.
IN THAT PICTURE.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. —Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
like a certain uniform? is that what you’re saying?
by AV on Aug 23, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
i wasn’t zinging!!! i was trying to figure out what DM meant. really!
by AV on Aug 23, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
hey, when i zing, you will know it.
(it’ll be like your heatstrings as you start for huntington dell.)
by AV on Aug 23, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
[sobs]
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. —Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
i just explained a team option to my mom. yes mom, he's being paid $3 mln to not play for the a's this year AND $1.5 mln to play for the yankees. she's not happy.
the artist formerly known as inbillywetrust
HAH!
I love your mom.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. —Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
i also explained that because he's played at least one game for the Yanks that he's entitled to a World Series ring should they win. he doesn't need to be on the playoff or World Series roster. that got her more steamed up.
my parentals are the awesome.
the artist formerly known as inbillywetrust
right??!
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. —Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
good idea.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. —Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
i’m relieved frankly. the other option was that you were saying vert stripes weren’t helping him look as slim as he could.
by AV on Aug 23, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Pennington poised for a 2012 breakout?
At least according to this fangraphs article, he is:
The stolen base rate has fallen off for Cliff in the majors, but it’s hard to put too much stock into stolen base rates for Oakland A’s, if you catch my drift.
Dude, look up a fricking team leader board for stolen bases for the last two seasons. The A’s are third in stolen bases. Also, look up Pennington’s CS rate this season. It’s ugly.
Don't you realise you'll find next monday or next Tuesday/Your golden shoes day
by PDXAthleticsfan on Aug 23, 2011 3:10 PM PDT reply actions
Someone on FB thinks calling up Stassi would be a good idea
Which would be amazing since he is out for the year after shoulder surgery.
you’re saying… facebook: not reliable for factualness?
by AV on Aug 23, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
They should have called up KOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUZ!
"Trying not to rec a "F**k the Giants" post is like trying not to look at boobs."
They disappear from our memories so quickly...
"Trying not to rec a "F**k the Giants" post is like trying not to look at boobs."
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