Felix Scuttles A's Offensive Attack, Mariners Beat A's 4-2
by danmerqury on Aug 2, 2011 10:08 PM PDT
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PrintI'm just going to get to the play this game will be remembered for, since the rest of this was dull, lifeless, and not worth writing much about.
In the first inning, Brendan Ryan hit a slow grounder to the left. SS Eric Sogard had to range far to his left, and while he was able to get to the ball, he had to make a high arcing jump throw that was a bit off-line. Ryan beat out the throw, and 1B Conor Jackson had to move a little off the bag to catch Sogard's throw. But just in case Jackson wasn't able to catch it, 2B Jemile Weeks ran behind Jackson into shallow RF to back him up. Just in case. And then, crazy happened.
Jackson held the ball in his hand and he started to walk toward the mound, when Brendan Ryan realized that not only was SS Sogard out of position after making the throw, 2B Weeks was out of position after backing it up. So he scampered for the uncovered 2B. 3B Scott Sizemore had to run to 2B to cover the bag (too late), and then...would you look at that, no one was covering 3B. Somehow, the closest man to 3B was CF Coco Crisp, and Ryan made it to third with ease. Officially? An infield single and a two base fielder's choice. Two runs ended up scoring in the inning.
Susan Slusser said it best, after she tweeted, "I'm going to call that the worst play by the #Athletics in the 13 years I've covered them full-time. And maybe beyond."
As for the rest of the game, Rich Harden was quite good, matching Felix zero for zero (aside from the first inning debacle) until Casper Wells hit a two-run home run in the 7th. Scott Sizemore followed Casper up in the bottom of that inning with another two-run home run to ruin Felix's shutout, and the A's teased once more in the bottom of the 8th by loading the bases with one out. And then...Kurt Suzuki struck out on a HBP. Don't ask.
The A's look to avoid the sweep tomorrow at 12:40 PM.
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Henry Wofford on the postgame:
“Landon Powell is not a great baserunner, but the guy can hit. He’ll get you a sacrifice fly from time to time.”
Zero this year, two for his career.
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Heh.
It amazes me sometimes, the things that professional sportscasters say. Especially ones like these, that can be so easily checked on the internet in 20 seconds.
I'm gonna say he knows about as much about sports facts and figures as he's good at actually playing sports
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Well technically...
He is right. He does get a SF from time-to-time. He just needs to add a few more “to times”
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by dwishinsky on Aug 3, 2011 5:51 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I must have been watching a different game. When did Powell bat tonight?
I guess what they say about mixing Scotch and Vodka is true.
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
Powell came up with the bases loaded vs. twins...GIDP
coulda used a sac fly there!
Weeks of course followed with a triple.
by Billy Frijoles on Aug 3, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow, Suzuki needs to go
It’s hard watching him hit and even harder watching him try to throw out baserunners
by dashman33 on Aug 2, 2011 10:17 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
That strikeout that hit him was an embarrassment to the game of baseball
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Even if he did make contact, all he could have done is kill the little old lady in the front row, behind the ondeck circle
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Nah, the old lady was safe
It was the Ichiro look-a-like that was in danger, if he wasn’t already ganged up by everyone around him.
And Kuip even said that his last throw (the one that bounced) was one of his better ones.
While I’ve never played professionally (only amateurishly), you get the impression he’s going up to the plate with a completely defensive approach. Two (relatively) hittable pitches zoom zoom. He seems to do his best when he hits (or tries to hit) to right. Why doesn’t he just focus on that?
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
I noticed that too, WDad. His swing looks (almost) perfect for an opposite field attack.
I thought I had been the only one that noticed.
by player20 on Aug 2, 2011 11:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Many have noticed and commented since he came up
Even Suzuki has mentioned it in the past.
by OaklandSi on Aug 3, 2011 5:04 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
This team is looking like the MLB version of the Warriors
Respectable at home (31-24), nearly an automatic loss on the road (18-37).
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It's missing the fans blindly showing up though.
by Athletix Man on Aug 2, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I think its an industrial league
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That's hilarious/ridiculous/horrendous.
In other words, marketing at its best.
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
Had it been Crosby AND Ginter, it would be going in my memorabilia collection right now.
Next to my Gabe Gross Jersey.
by player20 on Aug 3, 2011 3:40 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
If GInter's jersey was ACTUALLY used in a game, it would be a rare item indeed
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That Suzuki K was so bad
It appeared he decided he was swinging at that pitch no matter where it was.
Bring back Hammer.
Which is an excellent approach to hitting, I might add:
“I’m gonna hit the 5th pitch this time!!!!!!”
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Thanks for the explanation of that play.
I was glancing at the play-by-play from time to time, and what I saw was that Ryan singled and went to third on defensive indifference. Which, now that I know what happened, is (unfortunately) accurate.
You can tell this was a bad game...2 of us in the lounge
It reminds me of when I used to hang out in singles bars. It was just me and _________. <— Fill in the blank
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
Er, make that one in the lounge.
It reminds me of when I used to hang out in singles bars. It was just me. <— Fill in the blank
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
I'm done
I’ll see ya’ll next spring. This is …..well I’m not really sure what it is.
Maybe I’ll watch the playoffs.
slide! jeremy slide!
I'm going to disagree with the crowd here.
That play was not the worst ever. Even though the overall result was a fiasco and several mistakes were made, no single mistake alone was completely bone-headed. Here’s how I see it:
Sogard: Shouldn’t have attempted the throw, but understandable that was his instinct.
Weeks: Shouldn’t have tried to back up 1B, but understandable that was his instinct.
Jackson: People were complaining about him in the game thread, but in my opinion he’s the one guy who did nothing wrong. He did his job. On the Seattle broadcast they clearly showed him with the ball in hand ready to throw to 2B but there was no one there.
Sogard: If he’d recovered quickly might have covered 2B or 3B, but he was on his butt halfway into LF and understandable that he’d expect those bases to be covered by their respective basemen.
Sizemore: Shouldn’t have left 3B to try to cover 2B, but given that the runner was going for the base and Jackson was ready to make a throw, understandable that he’d try to get there in time.
Everyone else on the field: If one was really alert he probably could have gotten to either 2B or 3B (or at least yelled at someone else who could), so some blame on them too, but it wasn’t primary responsibility for any of them.
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Clearly it was Suzuki's fault
he should have tried to cover third. Oh, wait
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I almost spit my coffee
also on my drive home there is a freeway exchange where graffiti has been put on a retaining wall in white paint. The letters are not ornate, but plain. they say “WHITE HOUSE KILLS CROATIANS” I have no idea what it means, but it has been left up longer than most tags are.
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I mostly agree, but
watching the replay, how many times did you see an A’s player looking at the ground, off in the distance, or anywhere EXCEPT where the runner was? Gotta keep your head in the game at all times. After Jackson got the ball he wandered off the base like it was time to take a break, completely not paying attention to where the runner was. Had he been watching the runner, he wouldn’t have broke for second. Sizemore covers second then promptly wanders away looking at the dirt, had he been as alert as the runner he would have seen the same thing and started for third ahead of the runner. I remember another play from a few years back where a certain Angels pitcher wasn’t paying attention and scrappy A’s catcher scored from third. Gotta pay attention guys. Sigh…what can I say, another bad game during another bad season. Still love my A’s though! We’ll gettem tomorrow :)
by Digitalmonster on Aug 3, 2011 2:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Isn't the pitcher supposed to back up 3B in that instance?
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 3, 2011 3:35 AM PDT up reply actions
He should
But that’s not really the kind of play they practice in ST, I’d guess
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Doesn't appear that the pitchers practiced
Many fielding plays during spring training.
by OaklandSi on Aug 3, 2011 5:05 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Certainly not Harden since he missed most of ST
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 3, 2011 5:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Willingham
He should’ve been sort of in that area ready to field the ball thru the infield that Sogard managed to get to. Easy for him to go to third and cover
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by dwishinsky on Aug 3, 2011 5:55 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
There would have to be a very large penalty for that
Since he was DH. Actually, I did see Matsui coming into the picture late. I agree with digitalmonster, there did seem to be a bunch of guys looking away from the play and I assume that after backing up Sogard, Matsui drifted, as well.
Ha!
Yes Matsui. This morning I forgot that he was the one in left.
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by dwishinsky on Aug 3, 2011 6:45 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Crisp almost got to 2B, so he must have been alert and hustling
To me the biggest culprit was Sogard for managing not to cover 2B or 3B in the span of Ryan going from 1B all the way to 3B. Pick a base and cover it.
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To me, Sogard was out of the play. At best, he backs up 3rd.
Weeks covers 2nd, and Sizemore covers 3rd. Play over.
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He's between 3B and 2B.
In the time it takes Ryan to run two bases, he can be somewhere. If nothing else, when he sees Sizemore running 80 feet from 3B to 2B he can cover 3B.
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That is true.
But that is in reaction to Weeks’ poor decision. In terms of what was done wrong, Sogard should have backed up 3rd
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I don't think weeks made a poor decision
maybe it was wrong, but not poor.
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yeah, I think it was sogards job to go to third and sizemore's job to be at 2nd.
but like iglew said, not the worst play, but the most hilarious confluence of 3 or 4 boneheaded moves/
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Agree about Sogard
He shouldn’t have made the throw in the first place, but as iglew said, it’s understandable. What’s not understandable was him just walking there between the bases after the throw and not noticing anyone covering 2nd after the initial throw while lowering his head.
Instead, you had Sizemore scrambling to cover 2nd, which he got to too late, but by that time Sogard was already headed to the near outfield. Sizemore lowers his head and off goes Ryan again with no one covering 3rd and Crisp yelling in the background. Meanwhile, Sogard is just trotzing over to third completely unaware of what’s going on. To me, Sogard’s inattentiveness was the primary reason for the play even happening.
And the fact that no one else screamed loud enough to get his attention
On the other hand, maybe he just couldn’t understand what Matsui was screaming.
by Glorious Mundy on Aug 3, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
A's pitchers lead the majors in fielding errors
by OaklandSi on Aug 3, 2011 6:50 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
We got off to an early start, too.
Did we ever relinquish the lead at any time this season?
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Please correct me if things are done different at the MLB level...
but in Little League, we teach the middle infielders to “follow the ball”. Meaning that with a ball hit to the Rt side, the SS moves towards 2nd. On balls to the Lt side, the 2nd baseman covers 2nd. Sweeney should come in to back up 1st base, along with the catcher. By Weeks moving the wrong way, the entire center of the infield was open. If he were covering 2nd, Ryan would have never attempted the move, no matter what Jackson was doing. Jemile owns most of this defensive FUBAR-play. To make matters worse, Scott should not have attempted to cover 2nd. Concede the base, and limit the damage. Sogard, Willingham, and Harden were bystanders who didn’t participate in the play. The only player on the ball, was Coco.
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Willingham was DH (see above)
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 3, 2011 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions
You are correct, sorry.
I forgot Matsui was in left.
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It was harden, that might make him tear a rotator cuff
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Plus, let's be honest
Generally, that play by Ryan isn’t attempted most of the time even when the defensive team has a collective mental lapse.
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by cuppingmaster on Aug 3, 2011 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I am shocked.
I’m going to disagree with the crowd here.
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It shouldn't be Week's instinct to backup plays to the Lt side.
His instinct is to follow the play, which covers 2nd base. He blew it. That happens in the excitement of your rookie season. No one would have noticed, except his teammates made it worse.
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Sogard was never on his butt
He was at most 20 feet from third base the entire time Ryan was rounding the bases. He just had his head down and apparently no one alerted him to what was going on. Ryan getting to second was on Sizemore (or arguably Weeks, although from hearing Melvin’s comments it sounds like Weeks made the correct play), but him getting to third was all Sogard.
by Glorious Mundy on Aug 3, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Ryan getting to 2B was on SIZEMORE?
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Yes, according to Melvin
When a ball is hit deep in the hole between short and third like that, and the 3B starts to his left but the shortstop gets the ball, Melvin apparently wants the 3B to continue to his left to cover second, while the SS takes responsibility for covering third. Not sure if everyone does it that way, but apparently Melvin does.
by Glorious Mundy on Aug 3, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I know, but that's a very poor rotation IMO
For reasons that should now be apparent.
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why? that is where everybody's momentum is taking them
it seems right to me
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I think it's too much movement to have your 3Bman cover 2B,
and then leave someone else to move and cover 3B. There’s no reason the SS can’t get to 2B before the runner. Why have a bunch of people move when you can have just one guy move?
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Because the SS is already going towards 3B, and the 3B is already going toward 2B.
It’s easier to just keep going instead of stopping and reversing direction.
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It would take more effort to do it your way
both players would have to stop, turn around and run more than half the distance to their bases.
In this case Sizemore was no more than 45 feet from 2nd and running towards it, and Sogard was no more than 40 feet from third and heading away from second.
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Perhaps so.
All I know for sure is that had he been at 1B, Brandon Allen would have reached out 89 feet and tagged Ryan out himself.
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Allen
would have turned it into an inning ending double play.
"To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities." - Grand Master Bruce Lee
Think of it as a version of the wheel play on bunts
Weeks probably went to back up first if the throw was wide of Jackson and got by, but the RF should have been coming to cover as well.
With Sogard making the throw and his momentum carrying him toward third, Sizemore should have been on his way to second and Harden or Sogard should have been backing up third.
But, if Jackson doesn’t start by taking his eyes off the runner in assuming the play was over, the rest of the dominoes don’t fall. Even if he threw the ball to Sizemore, left of second, that probably keeps the runner there. The rest was just bad.
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Honestly, I think a better rotation
is to have Weeks shift over to 2B, and Sizemore stay anchored to 3B. Possibilities for backing up 1B include the RFer, the C, or “don’t make a throw if you can’t get it to the bearded hobo”. But 2B needs to be covered in a less bizarre way than the 3Bman abandoning 3B.
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That's better, yeah, but with Weeks going over toward 1B that throws it off
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Which is why I don't understand Weeks doing it.
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If they practice doing things that way then its fine.
The problem was just that nobody was paying attention to what was going on. The problem was not one of planning, it was execution.
by Billy Frijoles on Aug 3, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
And frankly a tremendous, heads-up play by Ryan.
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yeah, instead of talking to the 1B coach, like most players that hit an infield single, his head was still in the game!
by Billy Frijoles on Aug 3, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
He's scrappy.
That’s why Kennedy tried to take him out later in the game. He won’t relinquish the title that easily.
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You had to see it to believe it.
I saw it and I still don’t believe it.
by player20 on Aug 3, 2011 4:57 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
well, I was thinking about going to the game today, taking off early....but
I got better things to do with $ as I am a little short. Will check out the HBP K when I get home on the mlbtv archive.
ack-A
The pitch was just to fast to properly judge the trajectory
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LEG BEFORE WICKET!!!!!
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Which reminds me
Everyone needs to read this awesome Posnanski piece on that man and long jumping.
I don’t care if you don’t like track and field. It’s Posnanski at his best, which is enough.
by Glorious Mundy on Aug 3, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
It is
And he was my big idol when I practiced track. Experience that has me cast some doubt on the authenticity of that story about the 30ft jump, at least on the narrative – if you foul on your first three jumps you don’t get to jump any more.
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Yeah, that whole 30ft jump thing reeks of BS
But I still love the piece.
by Glorious Mundy on Aug 3, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
That Goldschmidt HR (off Lincecum) was an absolute BOMB (considering that the game was in SF).
I had to watch that three times.
by player20 on Aug 3, 2011 5:17 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
no wonder Allen was disposable
That kid is gold buried at the bottom of the river (8th round draft pick)
Falcon Punch!
My hope is that this is the beauty of Allen:
He isn’t a meh prospect, he was just expendable.
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As always, love Jeff's summary
The A’s loaded the bases with one out in the top of the eighth, looking to get back into the game. The first guy they sent up in that situation struck out on a pitch that hit him in the back shoulder. The second guy they sent up in that situation was wearing glasses.
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For once, I'm actually glad I stopped watching early
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by cuppingmaster on Aug 3, 2011 6:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I swear, Sogard audited my taxes last year.
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That Suzuki At-Bat with the Bases loaded....wow. I really like Suzuki as a person
But it is time to give someone else a chance. Send Powell down to Sacramento and bring up Recker or Donaldson; bench Suzuki. I guess it would be Donaldson, because I believe he is on the 40-man roster and Recker isn’t.
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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Aug 3, 2011 8:04 AM PDT reply actions
I don't see how Donaldson is any better than Suzuki
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 3, 2011 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Because he is different.
We already know what we get with Suzuki. He has gone downhill almost every year. Time to move on, and give players with possible upside a shot. Sound familiar?
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I guess even if Donaldson's equally bad, you might trade Suzuki for something of value
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 3, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
can he potentially throw the ball all the way to second base?
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Suzuki's thrown out 27% of base-stealers this year, which matches his career average
This season Donaldson’s thrown out 40%, in line with his MILB career. Recker’s thrown out 27%, down from a 34% career.
Suzuki threw out 40% in the minors too, though.
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I've seen Donaldson's arm and it's very good (strong, accurate)
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Wasn't his main problem injuries early in his career?
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
The reason I ak, is that I thought he was supposed to be a better prospect than Suzuki.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Donaldson's had an odd minor league career arc
When the A’s got him he was (AFAIK) healthy but batting just .217/.276/.349 in A-ball with a really low BABIP. He hit .330/.391/.564 the rest of the A-ball season for the A’s.
He then hit .270/.379/.415 in AA followed by .238/.336/.476 in AAA, but with BABIPs that keep fluctuating as wildly as I’ve seen. So it’s hard to know what’s luck, what’s skill, and what his true level is.
The one thing he’s always done is BB … but the one thing he isn’t especially doing this season (.269/.344/.479) is BB.
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I don't know what's up with Suzuki but it's ridiculous
His season % is buoyed by a strong start. Lately, he mostly bounces throws, often to the 3B side, and can’t be better than about 8 for his last 40. And only Cahill is bad at holding runners, IIRC.
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This is what I thought, tuu
He threw out his first 2-3 runners, right? I remember thinking that he got back on track.
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This is what I thought, tuu
He threw out his first 2-3 runners, right? I remember thinking that he got back on track.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Hmm, not sure if there are month-by-month breakdowns on that to see the trends
But I see people have stolen 74 bases on him in 87 games started now (88 total). Last year people stole 66 in 121 starts (123 total), 81 in 132 starts (135 total) the year before that.
If the SB + CS equals every time people have run on him and doesn’t include anything like pickoffs, here’s the breakdown for his career:
07: 36 attempts in 66 games (19% CS)
08: 87 in 141 (37% CS)
09: 108 in 135 (25% CS)
10: 85 in 123 (22% CS)
11: 102 in 88 (27% CS)
People are running allllll over him and it looks like 2008 was the exception for him in terms of success.
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I'd be interested to know what his last 40-45 or so attempts look like
I’d be surprised if he’s at 20%.
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Hmm
It looks like the CS% does include pitcher pickoffs. BB-Ref has another field called “CScatch” which is where the catcher registers an assist.
Going by that, the CS this year goes from 28 to 16. That’d muddy things a little further just trying to find a straight success rate for Suzuki going by game to game, but if you take out pitcher CS on pickoffs that suggests Suzuki’s thrown out 16 of the 90 people he may have actually had a chance to.
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It's probably even more complicated than that
A “pickoff” (a la Braden), in which the runner is tagged trying to get back to 1B, is not a “caught stealing,” whereas a pickoff in which the runner breaks for 2B and is thrown out (at 2B or in a rundown), is a “caught stealing”.
Granted my memory might be slightly selective, but 16% sounds more likely to me than 27%, with 18%-20% being what I would guess.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Oh hey, from A's game notes:
Opponents have been successful in 61 of their last 69 (88.4%) stolen base attempts off him (since May 6)…has tossed out just 16 of 90 (17.8%) for the season and the 74 stolen bases allowed are the most in the AL…allowed just 66 stolen bases all last year.
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And there you go
My memory estimates FTW!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Yeah, and it's nice that there's a spot on BB-Ref that tracks it based on catcher assists
That way you know it’s really the catcher who actually threw the guy out and you can compare to the SB from there (though obviously the catcher can’t be blamed for someone getting a great jump on the pitcher).
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BB-Ref = Awesome.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Oh yes
And for his career, it looks like Suzuki has actually thrown out just 66 runners, with 305 stolen bases against him. That’s 17.8% – the same ratio he’s at this year.
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And for Powell
Has tossed out 5 of 16 (31.3%) attempted base stealers this year and 18 of 57 (31.6%) in his career.
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yes, thanks for the work
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I don't care about percentages
I care about who is trying to steal on him. If its Ellesberry, fine, Adam Kennedy, meh, but if its a slowere person thinking they can make it, that’s when the red flag is too late.
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
He's not, but if he's comparable then an off-season trade of Suzuki
could be a great move. I still think Suzuki has trade value because so many teams are not satisfied with their catcher and Suzuki has an excellent reputation around the league. If you could get a decent young pitcher for him, along with perhaps 1-2 “high upside” A ballers, it might be a win for the A’s.
Potential contenders that might be looking for a catcher would include MIL, COL, FLA, NYY, LAA, KC, TB (depending on Jaso’s health), and CHI (if they’re finally sick of AJ). Not sure about BOS anymore.
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I'm all for this
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 3, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
+1!
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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Aug 3, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
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trying to assign blame for the Ryan debacle, came up with this for number 4 :
4. Harden: Couldn’t he have done something with himself on the play? Covered second? Covered third? Tackled Ryan?
Now THAT I would have liked to see….
If he had tried to do that, they'd still be picking up the glass shards from the infield.
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by PDXAthleticsfan on Aug 3, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
And we'd have seven MORE years of bad luck.
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Dumbasses on the A's flagship station
Just agreed among the three of them that the A’s got swept in the 1988 World Series. I mean, come on.
it's just a disinfo channel at this point
“Nothing is true, everything is permitted.”
I just watched the bonehead play and read some of the humiliating comments on SF Gate, wow. This is truly a franchise that is in the business of finding a new bottom every day right now. I wonder if Lew Wolff will own the Dodgers by the end of the week and they’ll just cancel the rest of our team’s existence, hmm.
"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto
by emperor nobody on Aug 3, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Wolff may well own the Dodgers at some point, although I'm not sure why anyone thinks
he’d be good at it. As far as the evisceration of the A’s, I’m not sure what’s going to happen. That’s a good one.
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 3, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
It doesn't seem like he wants to own anything right now, based on ML's interview
It wouldn’t surprise me if he passed on the reigns to his son right after a stadium decision.
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 3, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
wolff should just assume control of the dodgers
and immediately petition to move them to sj
"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto
by emperor nobody on Aug 3, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Carter hit a HR last night
Line for last 10 games: .405/.489/.838
Kouz HR’d too. I like that the A’s are giving Sizemore an extended look and that Kouz is probably there for insurance, but it seems like they should be doing something with the guy.
Meanwhile, Brandon Allen decided that he did not want to seem like a showoff on his first day and humbly went 0-4 with a GIDP.
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by PDXAthleticsfan on Aug 3, 2011 12:23 PM PDT reply actions
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