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C.J. Wilson rips A's fans, mound

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"I hate pitching there. The mound sucks, the fans suck. There's no fans there," Wilson said, free-flowing off a question about the ample foul territory at Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum. "It's too bad because the fans that are there are really adamant and they're really stoked on the team and they play drums and they wave flags and that's cool. But, you know, some games you go there and there's like 6,000 people there.

"It's kind of sad because it's a major league team and there's guys out there that are obviously pretty good players -- guys like (Trevor) Cahill and Gio Gonzalez, obviously they are All-Star pitchers -- and I just wish that the fan base supported them a little bit more."

 

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" the fans suck."
and then
“It’s too bad because the fans that are there are really adamant and they’re really stoked on the team”

Its like he is contradicting himself. I guess I understand since no one goes to games. He is obviously sounds like a jackass though.

by MatZt on Aug 10, 2011 8:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes, because there is another team with a nicer place to watch a ballgame within spitting distance of us.

CJ, you don’t have a “I was drunk” excuse to fall back, you are just a moron who doesn’t pay attention to anything.

by PL78 on Aug 11, 2011 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

" The players on their team hate me, whatever; I don’t care."

wtf is this dudes deal?

by MatZt on Aug 10, 2011 8:37 PM PDT reply actions  

He could've easily kept it to that without going into the whole "the fans suck" thing

And “the mound sucks” comes off as him making excuses, which he often does when he loses.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Aug 10, 2011 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Yeah, what he really means is,

“The fans are great. The non-fans suck.”

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 10, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions   5 recs

Exactly

And he’s right about that. Now if only he could articulate that point better…

by guy incognito on Aug 10, 2011 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

I understand why he says the “fans suck” … cause no one comes out to the game!! But I agree with him … I wish others around there went to the game more. If I didn’t live an hour away, I’d go to a lot more games as well.

formerly "what_the_crap"

by Dub_TC on Aug 11, 2011 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lawyerball sucks!!!

At one point in my life I liked Dave Kingman more than Rickey Henderson. I was stupid.

by the_rozeboom on Aug 10, 2011 9:34 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

He's right

I mean, I like it, I always have a good time, but in the context of modern major league baseball, the whole scene kind of sucks.

Of course, for me, the whole modern major league baseball scene kind of sucks with its luxury boxes and ridiculously priced tickets and its 24-hour media culture and its need to make much, much more of this little game than it really deserves.

by RLangford on Aug 10, 2011 9:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Heh.

“straight edge”

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Aug 11, 2011 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I smoked a bowl with Ian MacKaye

He hasn’t been straight edge since the 90s with Fugazi.

by PL78 on Aug 11, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I smoked a bowl on the Coliseum mound.

No, really. It was that Day on The Green with The Who and The Clash. What was that, 1982? Graham’s Blue Meanies were clearing people out after the show, and I was walking right by the mound, and well…“When am I gonna get another chance?”

Interesting to hear ol’ Ian’s loosened up a bit. Minor Threat still sounds awesome after all these years, and never once did I blame them for all those mediocre Straight Edge bands that they inspired. Once you get past them, 7 Seconds and the pre-metal SSD, the genre really goes south.

Sisko: All right Niners, let's hear some chatter!
Kasidy: Hey batterbatterbatterbatterbatter!
Leeta: Hey batterbatterbatter! Batterbatterbatterbatter!
Worf: DEATH TO THE OPPOSITION!!!

by CmdrKhraanik on Aug 11, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm a fan of the second wave too....

Uniform Choice’s LP is still a real rager, Youth Of Today were so over the top, but their energy made them pretty great as well and Judge were good too but pushed the music in too metal a direction for many. After that it kind of just rehashes itself over and over (and still does).

by PL78 on Aug 11, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

CM Punk is Straight Edge

CJ Wilson is a douche.

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by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 11, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll give it up for YOT

I saw them rip it up at an all-ages matinee at Satyricon in Portland, Winter of ‘88. The other band on the bill was Angry Samoans. Bizarre. I remember these punker girls trying to scam on the YOT guys, who were not playing along. "No, you can’t get in the van. It’s a boys-only clubhouse, just like that Brady Bunch episode." Now that I think about it, that UC album was pretty good. Honorable mention to Scared Straight, featuring Scott Radinsky and Brian Walsby, who presumably is still waiting for Kev Seconds to send him a royalty check for all that Walk Together Rock Together merch 7 Seconds has moved over the years…

Sisko: All right Niners, let's hear some chatter!
Kasidy: Hey batterbatterbatterbatterbatter!
Leeta: Hey batterbatterbatter! Batterbatterbatterbatter!
Worf: DEATH TO THE OPPOSITION!!!

by CmdrKhraanik on Aug 11, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha! So true! Radinsky was awesome...

You Drink You Drive You Die was a really hard hitting record. I love how back in the day I read in Sports Illustrated this article about how he’d get flustered on the mound and Piazza would come up there and sing Angry Samoans songs to him to calm him down.

by PL78 on Aug 11, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

In the rich, storied history of Major League Baseball,

I’m pretty sure that Radinsky’s the only guy who made the cover of MRR. Likewise, I bet Piazza’s the only guy to appear on That Metal Show. We’ve come a long way from the days of Jim Walewander getting shit from his teammates for being a Dead Milkmen fan! I have Radinsky’s rookie card, which contains this priceless blurb on the back: “Scott has his own Rock band, called ‘Scared Straight’.” Damn right he does! That baby is tucked inside their Mystic 7". Getting Scott to sign both those items is somewhere on my bucket list.

Sisko: All right Niners, let's hear some chatter!
Kasidy: Hey batterbatterbatterbatterbatter!
Leeta: Hey batterbatterbatter! Batterbatterbatterbatter!
Worf: DEATH TO THE OPPOSITION!!!

by CmdrKhraanik on Aug 11, 2011 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thoughts?

I think CJ Wilson is a douche.

Next?

"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Aug 10, 2011 11:05 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Oh where is the old.....

+1

It’s too bad we weren’t playing by NL rules this Friday……

by HRH on Aug 10, 2011 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

y'alls are relentless!!!

;-0

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Aug 11, 2011 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

rec'd

the artist formerly known as inbillywetrust

by stm72 on Aug 12, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, the park really is a terrible stadium. The mound comment seemed really unnecessary and childish though

by Cup Noodles on Aug 10, 2011 11:57 PM PDT reply actions  

yeah - esp when we have a GRREAT groundskeeper from all I hear

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Aug 11, 2011 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, What He Says Is True

But only up to a certain extent. Still, you don’t go out and drop bombs on a stadium in an interview even if you have good reason to.

by Jason James on Aug 11, 2011 1:15 AM PDT reply actions  

Thoughts?

Fuck C.J. Wilson.

Play and shut up.

This. Team.

by Boonee on Aug 11, 2011 1:42 AM PDT reply actions   3 recs

C.J. Wilson the sXe douche

A straight edge is a punk movement from the 1980’s where they abstain from drugs and alcohol. (Sorry to insult people who know what Straight Edge means). Just from personal experience Straight Edge people are super extreme,righteous and intense about their beliefs a.k.a. Totally Boring Assholes. Plus it seemed like Wilson was all over the map with his comments, saying great things and not so great things. About the attendance, Wolff PLEASE get rid of those Upper Deck tarps it will bring a extra chunk of fans.

by hotpuff415 on Aug 11, 2011 5:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Removing the tarps won't have any real effect on attendance, sorry

Not unless we’re talking about games against the Giants, maybe a few against the Yankees and Red Sox.

But games where they’ve only sold about 12,000 tickets? Nah.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Aug 11, 2011 5:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

These days the don't even sell out ny or Boston

so not even those games would you get a boost anymore.

by Athletix Man on Aug 11, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah and at some point the "cheap seats" so devalue your product

That it actually makes the situation worse. They’re finding that all across MLB as other teams have discounted their tickets to fill seats suddenly their season ticket rolls are getting smaller as people drop them due to lack of need. Why have season tickets when you can cherry pick good seats to any game?

by athletics68 on Aug 11, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dallas won't be happy. It is his mound after all.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Aug 11, 2011 5:12 AM PDT reply actions   5 recs

Plucky little twat isn't he.

Have at it.

That rug really tied the room together...

by Streams Of Whiskey on Aug 11, 2011 6:37 AM PDT reply actions  

The mound, like the rest of the field, suffers a lot during football season

Pitching on a dismantled and rebuilt mound probably is a PITA.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Aug 11, 2011 7:10 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Hadn't even considered that

When was the last time he pitched in Oakland? If it were during football season the mound very well may suck.

by athletics68 on Aug 11, 2011 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

CJ Wilson's career stats at the Coliseum

0-2, 4.00 ERA, 1.83 WHIP. He hates the mound in Oakland because he hasn’t won there.

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Aug 11, 2011 7:13 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Serves his ass right...he's pitching 24 hrs after a Raiders game.

"We get two outs, and I was sure, and I had a plan, and I shook Tek off," Schilling said. "And I get a big 'What if?' for the rest of my life."

by Imaseasonticketholder on Aug 11, 2011 7:35 AM PDT reply actions  

The truth hurts

I have no objection with anything he said. The fans that do come are great of course as he says. But at the same time our fans overall do suck right now. 6,000 a game is pathetic. And we can make all the excuses in the world, doesn’t change the fact that on many weekdays under 10k are showing up (reality not announced attendance).

As for the mound, he’s entitled to his opinion.

by athletics68 on Aug 11, 2011 9:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Also truth

San Jose, Oakland, Fremont doesn’t matter. They’d draw more in a new downtown or faux downtown park anywhere in the Bay Area that ISN’T in an industrial wasteland. Sadly the most likely location and most advanced proposal in San Jose remains in perpetual limbo thanks to Bud.

by athletics68 on Aug 11, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I still think we're waiting on the VC EIR.

I keep thinking that since we haven’t heard a peep (and we should have seen a draft a month or two ago) there must be something that is complicating matters that may shoot Oakland’s chances down. I think MLB is giving them some time to figure it out. If they can’t figure it out, MLB can say, “look, we really, really tried to keep them there.”

by LoneStranger on Aug 11, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

You may be right

The dragging of feet on the Oakland EIR is bad news no matter how you cut it. Particularly since this is the draft not the final.

by athletics68 on Aug 11, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

what he said is right

it is sad to see an empty stadium. and even worst when an opposing player sad something bad

i wonder how the players on the team feel :3

Haters Gonna Hate

by Wreckonized on Aug 11, 2011 10:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Why CJ?

I’m already 35, single, with a dead end job. Now CJ Wilson is picking on me too? What’s the point CJ, I haven’t done anything to you!

by tinez14 on Aug 11, 2011 10:45 AM PDT reply actions  

What a loudmouth

I don’t disagree with the substance, just the self-righteous, I’m-so-better-than-you tone he always takes when his gums get to flappin’. Ten fingers, no rings.

"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto

by emperor nobody on Aug 11, 2011 10:51 AM PDT reply actions  

I agree on some points (although he could have worded it better)

It IS sad to have 6000 fans, no argument there about having a crappy stadium. However, the whole “the mound sucks” statement is blasphemy, as that is dissing Clay Wood and warrants retribution in my mind.

by Kaiser99 on Aug 11, 2011 11:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Isn't CJ from Orange County?

Or am I projecting SoCal douche onto him?

by jackterrier on Aug 11, 2011 2:09 PM PDT reply actions  

CJ sucks. Nice backtracking job after telling us we suck

fuck you man. Seriously I hope a seagull flies down and claws your eyes out tomorrow.

by Billy Frijoles on Aug 11, 2011 2:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Yet another reason to like McCarthy
“He seems to talk about us a lot,” McCarthy said. "I think the easiest way to quiet somebody is to beat him, and beat him well, to the point where there’s just nothing left to say. That needs to be our goal from now through the rest of September.

Don't you realise you'll find next monday or next Tuesday/Your golden shoes day

by PDXAthleticsfan on Aug 11, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes!

Even though that probably means 4 years of pitching.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 11, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but the value of his Tweets Above Replacement Tweeter (TART)

should make up for those lost 6 years.

Don't you realise you'll find next monday or next Tuesday/Your golden shoes day

by PDXAthleticsfan on Aug 11, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus, his spouse-adjusted AMANDA+ rating is through the roof

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 11, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

srsly

I’m pretty sure the attention she has gotten this ballclub is worth his contract even before he ever pitched a ball.

Don't you realise you'll find next monday or next Tuesday/Your golden shoes day

by PDXAthleticsfan on Aug 11, 2011 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

That just means more time for twitter.

"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Aug 11, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or CJ Wilson Memorial

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 11, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

nothing he said was really provocative

overstock is a depressing stadium and baseball fans have shifted their allegiances for a variety of reasons. people should be angry at the giants organization for preventing the a’s from relocating and building a new stadium in san jose.

by tanarus on Aug 11, 2011 10:07 PM PDT reply actions  

It's not about whether or not "what he said was right/wrong"

it should be about why he said it. It’s glaringly obvious to me that something happened when Texas played here – either to him, his wife, perhaps, maybe a family member. He’s pissed off because of it … let’s face it, it’s not as if the A’s have been very relevant for a while, now. Why would he single out the A’s (and it’s clear to me that he has some sort of agenda) “out of the blue”? Oakland’s not in contention – there really isn’t much of a rivalry … nope, Wilson’s taken something personal and he’s attempting to get even (I have no doubt he was the “unnamed AL West pitcher” who criticized the A’s in a recent ESPN Magazine article.
All that is well and good … but here’s my issue … just be man enough to admit it. Just come out and say, “Look, XYZ happened when we played here once, and I’m angry about it.” That way everyone is clear what the issue is, and we can get rid of this whole “these are just random observations about another team” facade.

I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.

by Vacafan on Aug 12, 2011 7:22 AM PDT reply actions  

The Rangers’ attendance figures are nothing to be proud of . . . they just went to the World Series and they aren’t going to his the 3,000,000 mark in attendance despite the fact that their stadium holds over 50,000 fans . . I can only imagine what will happen to attendance figures once the Cowboys’ preseason is in full swing. Haha.

While having 10,000 fans in attendance is absolutely terrible, I know that the A’s have excellent fans (I live in Berkeley) and they will show up once a new venue is built and/or it looks like ownership is at least trying to win in the interim. I just hope MLB can figure out a way to keep the A’s in Northern California, because if they were to leave, it would be a tragedy.

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by AndyHogan14 on Aug 12, 2011 3:24 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

They're on pace for about 2,940,000

So it’s a couple games off at their pace of 36,332 a game.

If we’re scoffing at a team drawing over 35,000 a game…come on.

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by Flashfire on Aug 12, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

They went to the WS and they aren't going to hit 3,000,000

and their stadium seats over 50,000 . . . the figures were around 30,000 when the Mavs were making their run and I can only imagine the hit their figures will take when people start focusing on the Cowboys again. In DFW: Cowboys > Mavs > Rangers > Stars.

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by AndyHogan14 on Aug 12, 2011 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

So what?

We know high school football is bigger than most other sports in Texas. 35,000+ is 35,000+.

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by Flashfire on Aug 12, 2011 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am just saying that he’s complaining about attendance in Oakland (a team in a terrible stadium situation that has had a woeful product for quite some time) when his own team could be doing much better . . .

I absolutely abhor everything to do with Texas sports and their awful bandwagon fans (look at Cowboys attendance figures in the late 80s/early 90s), so perhaps I am just finding ways to criticize them. Haha.

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by AndyHogan14 on Aug 13, 2011 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

This came up on Twitter as well, so I looked some things up

The lowest attendance they’ve averaged in the “new” place (now in its 18th season) was about 24k, and they’ve at least been in the lower half of AL attendance (easier to check quickly on BB-Ref) just three times over that span. On top of that, they’ve averaged 30k or more (60%) 11 of those years. Right now they’re on pace to just barely miss their all-time attendance record, set back in 1997.

I get hating Texas sports, but Wilson’s attendance complaints about the A’s should have been kept to himself. It’s nothing new. Over on Twitter, he didn’t even know the A’s are trying to build a new stadium.

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by Flashfire on Aug 13, 2011 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow . . .

they don’t think the A’s have plans for a new stadium? What rock have they been living under?? Haha.

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