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A’s A Bit Fried By Lawrie

So, I'm not sure that Gio Gonzalez pitched better or worse than his line shows, but in five plus innings, it's probably not a good showing when you allow five walks and four runs, no matter the reason. Gio threw a tremendous amount of pitches (60 in the first two innings) and the A's bullpen and offense just couldn't save him. This marks yet another pedestrian outing for Gio Gonzalez.

The real damage in the game tonight was done by rookie Brett Lawrie; all he did in his first week of work was connect with a grand slam to seal the loss for the A's tonight. He was also excited about it, in the way only a 21-year-old can be after THE hit of his early career.

Gio allowed one run in the first inning; the A's would tie the game on a solo homerun by David DeJesus in the fourth. They would also tack on two more on a double by Sweeney and a single by Sizemore, and seemed to be in great shape. Unfortunately, the sixth inning happened. Gio Gonzalez gave up a double and a walk to open the inning, but had a chance to get an out on the bases. However, instead of picking off the runner at second, Kurt Suzuki threw the ball into center field. After another walk loaded the bases, Gio was yanked in favor of Craig Breslow. Keep in mind, the game was 3-1 at this point.

Hide the kids and don't watch the next series of pitches. Breslow gave up an RBI single, would sandwich in a strikeout, and then would give up Lawrie's grand slam. Not so helpful, Bres.

The Jays would tack on another run in the seventh, and another in the eighth, and the A's would put a meaningless Willingham homerun on the board in the ninth; sadly a solo shot, and not the game-tying grand slam. So the A's lose 8-4, and drop Gio under .500 on the season. We play the rubber game tomorrow morning; don't forget!


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"However, instead of picking off the runner at second, Kurt Suzuki threw the ball into center field."

Not sure if you saw it happen, but Suzuki’s throw was there and Pennington just missed it. Tough error to give to the catcher there, not Suzuki’s fault at all.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Aug 10, 2011 7:32 PM PDT reply actions  

This was one of Kurt's better throws lately.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes. Should have been an E6, IMO

And they had Lind dead to rights. Typical “A’s infield 2011” play.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 10, 2011 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw the replay and thought it bounced in front of him.

I was with the scorekeeper, but maybe I should take another look

"Oh who am I kidding? The A's and Giants could stage a pillow fight, and I'd still care who wins." -67Marquez

by baseballgirl on Aug 10, 2011 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

So... We lost?

Darn! I like win streaks

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 7:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Yay baseball!

We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley

by Future Ed on Aug 10, 2011 7:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Much better than football!

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

NONSENSE

I’m ready for some football!!!!

"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford

"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball

by darooster on Aug 10, 2011 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

How very sad for you.

I’m sorry to hear this.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think most fans of both sports would at least put them even with each other

I love baseball, but I don’t think it’s way better than football. If we were rating them from 1-10, Football would be a 9.5 and baseball a 9 for me.

"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford

"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball

by darooster on Aug 10, 2011 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

you are being kind

We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley

by Future Ed on Aug 10, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

+46

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope, you only add to baseball.

There is nothing positive to add to football

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

For me, baseball is a 97 and football is a 32

but a 32 on a cold winter Sunday is better than nothing.

Pabst still makes 32oz bottles, right?

"It's decent.
It’s twisty, which I love."- lynnzgal

by Gaijin_Suketto on Aug 10, 2011 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

They buy the bottles

It’s what they fill them with that you have to worry about.

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Aug 10, 2011 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Football's Cool,

But nothing compared to baseball for me.

by Jason James on Aug 11, 2011 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chess, Cheerleading, and Curling should be between

women’s volleyball( indoor), and football.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 11, 2011 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

You forgot Jiskefet

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Aug 11, 2011 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Isn't he playing OF for us in Sac?

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 11, 2011 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nah

Cesta punta is for sissies, pelota mano is the real sport.

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Aug 11, 2011 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tough guys

Don’t mess with those

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Aug 11, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Curling is better than basketball.

"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Aug 11, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I too feel sorry for you

We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley

by Future Ed on Aug 10, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Terrible headline.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 10, 2011 7:44 PM PDT reply actions  

;-)

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 10, 2011 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can I respectfully take issue with the line
He was also excited about it, in the way only a 21-year-old can be after THE hit of his early career.

One can, in fact, be really excited and pumped up without coming across as a frat boy who has traded all his brain cells for testosterone, as Lawrie did in the dugout. I have zero respect for that crap.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 10, 2011 7:49 PM PDT reply actions  

yknow a lot of 21 year olds actually are in a frat...

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

This.

He’s a kid, and he just hit a go ahead grand slam for the first home run in his hometown. Heaven forbid he show emotion. It’s not like he mooned the A’s on his way around the bases; he was just ridiculously jazzed, as he should be.

by Rebuilding Season on Aug 10, 2011 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm talking about the garbage he did in the dugout

That’s not “showing emotion”. That’s just acting like a f***ing idiot.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 10, 2011 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

i didnt watch,

what did he do exactly?

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

i dont see a problem in that.

especially given the circumstances.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see a problem, but not a big one

he needs to be a little classier, but you give him a pass because of the circumstances.

We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley

by Future Ed on Aug 10, 2011 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

ill concur with that.

its not something that should happen every time, or probably ever again, but a big homerun in a big situation for his first is pretty exciting.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, I get it, but If I was on the team I would say, "kid, cool it"

We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley

by Future Ed on Aug 10, 2011 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh yeah.

a vet should have done that.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll go out on a limb and say I think it was perfectly fine

Heaven help us if we get to the point where we can’t express our excitment at success. It wasn’t like the bowling pin incident (which was truly low class). He did nothing to show up the A’s.

I ask myself what would I have done if I’m a young athlete, bred to competition, I’m in my home country, my first week, the world is at my feet and I hit a grand slam to take the lead in a game? I’m not sure I would have been as behaved as he was.

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Aug 10, 2011 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hell yeah

You want to see classless overdone celebrations, go to football or soccer

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Aug 10, 2011 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I can live without the stupid dances in the end zone

which are pre-planned and orchestrated…not spontaneous.

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Aug 10, 2011 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking about the bowling pin incident.

I’m conflicted on that one. From a strictly spectator view, it was entertaining. But the competitive athlete in me thought it was disrespectful. I do like Fielder’s “sparring” HR celebrations, though.

by player20 on Aug 11, 2011 8:21 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Beating a team thats over 10 games under .500 when your own team is 10+ games out of 1st place in what is therefore a meaningless August game.

Totally uncalled for. Those kind of emotions are only allowed in the playoffs. Lawrie and Harper are two massive douchebags that we are all going to have to get used to if their teams dont force them to learn how to be better people, sigh. Wish there were more ichiro-types, you can get away with being brash if you are also very weird or ominous like he is. He’s essentially the Japanese James Bond at this point.

by PL78 on Aug 10, 2011 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll disagree.

I dont know about Lawrie, but Harper obviously has that reputation. If they’re good players, i dont think it’s a big deal. ARod’s kind of a big douche, and i doubt you wouldn’t want him on the team.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have decided Lawrie is a massive douchebag

because of one play. Well, okay then.

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Aug 10, 2011 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions   4 recs

Actually, I have too.

But that’s partly because I’ve never seen anyone who acted the way he did in the dugout turn out to be “not a douche”. Plus, it’s sports and the internet and I get to make snapshot judgments of people based on 5 second clips!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 10, 2011 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Could have been worse.

He could have done this.

Q: Who is playing you in the movie about the ESPN book? I think it should be Adam Sandler — you both peaked 12 years ago.
— Timmy, Winchester, MA

- Simmons Mailbag, 8/5/11

by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 10, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

woah, youre alive.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not really.

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Aug 10, 2011 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hello, MO!

How is the big city of Tracy this evening?

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stay undead, my friend.

"It's decent.
It’s twisty, which I love."- lynnzgal

by Gaijin_Suketto on Aug 10, 2011 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Naw, we had that in 2010

But point taken.

Had it been the 1960s, they probably would have popped a greenie and had a Miller High Life in the dugout.

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Aug 10, 2011 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

the threw his helmet, screamed "woo" and such

but a lot. It was gauche, he should’t do it, likely won’t in the future.

You should act like you have been there before, he did not.

We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley

by Future Ed on Aug 10, 2011 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

But he's NEVER been there before!

I will forgive some celebration, but he acted too douchey

"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford

"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball

by darooster on Aug 10, 2011 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn't there a saying

“Show some class, act like you’ve been there before.”?

by PL78 on Aug 10, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but can't you forgive a kid who hasn't been there before, just a little?

I’m just saying in general. We don’t disagree about this Lowrie kid, he overdid it and it pissed me off. But generally I am ok with some celebration and not “acting like you’ve been there before” all the time

"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford

"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball

by darooster on Aug 10, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I asked myself this:

“How did Derek Jeter handle the situation” I hate him as a player but he certainly has class and knows his place. Acting like you cured cancer and won the WS in 1 swing in a totally meaningless game is overdoing it. It just warranted a smile and an “aw, shucks” vibe.

by PL78 on Aug 10, 2011 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was ONE play, dude.

He got excited. No need to judge him on one reaction.

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Aug 10, 2011 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, its a series of things.

Of course I wouldnt judge a person off one incident. I used google before decided he was a db.

by PL78 on Aug 11, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Douchey is a good word to describe it

I don’t care that he was happy, or that he celebrated. He just did it in the most douchey way possible, and way over the top. Lowered my opinion of him a lot.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 10, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

He didn't flip anyone off, or yell at the pitcher,

or do some stupid dance. I could see it being wayyyy more douchey.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guillen?

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

With Weaver?

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

here

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=17526209&topic_id=&c_id=mlb&tcid=vpp_copy_17526209&v=3

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

this has back story though

Weaver was mouthing off to Ordonez. I have no problem with guillen

We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley

by Future Ed on Aug 10, 2011 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

in a vacuum though.

like id be much more upset if someone did that than doing something in the dugout.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes

We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley

by Future Ed on Aug 10, 2011 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

im fine that guillen did it because he was standing up for a teammate.

just i imagine its more of a show up if its on the field than in the dugout.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

THIS

He was backing up a teammate

"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford

"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball

by darooster on Aug 10, 2011 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, just to be clear I have no issue whatsoever

with anything he did on the field. It was the charade in the dugout that bugged me, and I stand by saying that was unclassy frat boy douchery at its unclassy frat boy doucheriest.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 10, 2011 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm talking about that too.

i still see it being much worse.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I find Balfour's open use of foul language much worse than Lowrie's actions.

Kid’s watch these games, and I find Grant very offensive. Mulder’s use of his glove to cover his mouth is much classier.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hmm interesting point.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I find Norberto's actions more offensive than Balfour's

And I’m referring to the action of constantly throwing really terrible pitches.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 10, 2011 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kids are watching!

do you want them to learn how to be terrible pitchers?

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

somtimes a negative model is instructive

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Aug 10, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

STOP MAKING SENSE!

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's my job to be logical and make sense

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Aug 10, 2011 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

and you do it SOOOOO well!

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

IK, R??!~!

;-)

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Aug 10, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

All of you AN hotties keep us boys in line.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Aug 10, 2011 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

...

"It's decent.
It’s twisty, which I love."- lynnzgal

by Gaijin_Suketto on Aug 10, 2011 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Rec'd for being the bestest album evah!

Don't you realise you'll find next monday or next Tuesday/Your golden shoes day

by PDXAthleticsfan on Aug 11, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

agreed.

"I think what baseball projects, and what classical music needs, is the sense that one goes to a live event not to experience greatness, but to experience the possibility of greatness.... Not every game is great but what we go for is the chance that this particular game might be.' —David Lang

by King Richard on Aug 11, 2011 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

what are they gonna do with him???

UGH

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Aug 10, 2011 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm really surprised he was brought straight up to OAK

He is so far from ready. What exactly was the thinking behind putting him in the big leagues instead of at AA or AAA? There are plenty of other options for the A’s bullpen, including Godfrey, if you need a long/extra reliever.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 10, 2011 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

well that's what I was thinking...but I never trust that I know what I'm talking about!

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Aug 10, 2011 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know more than you think

You’re kind of the anti-internet blogger in that way.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 10, 2011 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

well...thanks

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Aug 10, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

HOW many of these sub standard performances do we need to endure?

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Aug 10, 2011 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was really surprised too

Don’t we have anyone left in the bullpen in Sacramento?

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Aug 10, 2011 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

hehehe, I agree whole heartedly with you, Nico.

His performance was sad

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

He hasn't been there before...

for the record, im not a big fan of the phrase. Sports are about having fun, and I feel that players should be able to do that to an extnet.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I fail to see the point

We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley

by Future Ed on Aug 10, 2011 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

not trying to be difficult,

but what point?

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

that he hadn't been there before (sorry that my comment was curt)

it doesn’t matter if you have or haven’t hit a home run for your country’s only team.

I think being happy and stoked is great, but it seemed like he was celebrating for himself, not for the team.

Again, a minor transgression, not a big deal. But fun to talk about

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by Future Ed on Aug 10, 2011 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah it is fun to talk about.

As a young athlete, we’re kind of taught that a lot of times its more about ourself and not the team. So im not saying i like fully support it, but i at least understand cuz ive been there.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think there is little room between our opinions

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by Future Ed on Aug 10, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably.

just talking. Not disagreeing.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

it seems like it's amplified

cuz he’s Canadian and their big prospect and all, that’s what I saw… the fans went wild, they showed the Jays’ GM was it? going all ecstatic, it was a big deal. Was it his first HR?

"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto

by emperor nobody on Aug 10, 2011 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm pretty sure it was.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

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by Future Ed on Aug 10, 2011 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah it was his first in Toronto

I see the big deal, he’s a big hope for them and he did good, I didn’t feel he showed Breslow up — the big celebrationals are in the dugout, it’s not like he Jeff Leonard Cadillac-flapped it around the bases or anything.

"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto

by emperor nobody on Aug 10, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

I think i actually have more of a problem with the Guillen thing, but even that i somewhat understood.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

He’ll look back on that moment for the rest of his life, and I’m sure he didn’t mean disrespect; he was just really really happy with himself.

by Rebuilding Season on Aug 10, 2011 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah it's just an outflow of emotion

he worked his whole life to get to the point where he could hit a GS in the majors, I have no issue with his exuberance at all.

"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto

by emperor nobody on Aug 10, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

It lasted a long time

I understand it was the first one – but he really went over the top.

by longtimeasfan on Aug 10, 2011 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

It lasted longer than most of my relationships. Which, granted, isn’t saying much.

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by Nico on Aug 10, 2011 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

He hit the ball pretty good, but I reasonably sure it stayed in Ontario.

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by Future Ed on Aug 10, 2011 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not like if Brandon Allen had it it

Would have landed in British Columbia.

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Aug 10, 2011 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but I don't have to sit and watch them act like idiots.

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by Nico on Aug 10, 2011 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would you have cared if we were so far ahead in the game, that it didn't count?

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by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, actually.

And had it been one of our players I would have been embarrassed for us.

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by Nico on Aug 10, 2011 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok. I'm like Whizkid. I never saw what happened.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was more embarrased by Him Who Shall Not Be Named...

Staring at called thirds all game long.

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Aug 10, 2011 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

true.

but by saying that, you also have the option of turning it off…

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lawrie's a douche.

Total bro, but whatever that’s baseball. A lot of these guys are alpha bros, but you can’t really hold it against them.

That said… Brett Lawrie has lyrics to “Lose Yourself” by Eminem tattooed on his arm. No seriously, and it’s a big tattoo.

by BWH on Aug 10, 2011 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reminds me of the dudes in college

who would show up to parties at 1:30 am and aggressively stare down every other guy in the room as they scoped out the drunkest girls they could find.

Yep, Brett Lawrie reminds me of a date rapist.

by BWH on Aug 10, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you're going a bit overboard with this now

We get it – he’s an immature kid.

WHAT A SURPRISE!

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by Flashfire on Aug 10, 2011 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't say

he’d commit date rape. I just said he reminds me of certain dudes who have proclivities towards possibly being date rapists, meaning douchebags.

by BWH on Aug 10, 2011 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, entirely.

Based on guys I’ve been around before. Also, there’s a difference between “looking like a partier” and what I’m describing.

Also, if you get that tattoo, you are by definition a d-bag. No way around it.

by BWH on Aug 10, 2011 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not a partier at all and I have no tattoos whatsoever

But this is all coming off as a bunch of childish complaining and judging of someone we wouldn’t even have given a second thought to had he not celebrated a little over-exuberantly in the dugout.

Most people aren’t going to give a crap that he partied and drank – like a ton of people in college – as long as he performs on the field, and they shouldn’t. I’d love to see some of the excuses people make here if it’s one of our players who wasn’t a saint.

Some of you need to get over yourselves.

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by Flashfire on Aug 10, 2011 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

+46!

or whatever the number is supposed to be.

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by MissOakland on Aug 10, 2011 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

You got it right, MO

BOTTOM LINE!

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by Tutu-late on Aug 11, 2011 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you.

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by MissOakland on Aug 10, 2011 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

As a guy in his early 20's

I feel I have a decent read on other guys in their early 20’s. And he sets off my douche-radar big time. And I have a very good radar (that, or I’m really judgmental). In fact, I’d bet most people concluding that he’s a douche are fellow dudes between 18-26. We have an inherent sense of these things.

It doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be in MLB. It just means he’s unlikeable.

by BWH on Aug 10, 2011 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he looks like a douche

And he probably is one. Big deal.

But the rest? He “reminds me of a date rapist?”

Come on.

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by Flashfire on Aug 10, 2011 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I use "date rapist" as an interchangeable term

for douche bag. Brett Lawrie is 19 months younger than I am. I think it’s ok for me to dislike him. I know a lot of guys who take pictures like that and have tats like that, and 100% of them are dudes I hate. I think it’s ok for me to hate on him. I didn’t say it matters on the field, he just reminds me of something I really hate, in a big way. As a guy who partied and drank through college very recently, I have a much different view of 21 year old douche bags than you do.

by BWH on Aug 10, 2011 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

douche bag

and date rapist aren’t the same thing. So don’t try and “interchange” them.

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Aug 10, 2011 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

There's plenty of overlap.

I mean, if you commit a date rape, you’re a douchebag.

by BWH on Aug 10, 2011 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, if you commit date rape, you're a date rapist

If you’re a douchebag, you aren’t a date rapist.

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by Flashfire on Aug 10, 2011 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever, I view it as semantics

just something I picked up on based on experiences in college.

by BWH on Aug 10, 2011 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then you must have had some truly screwed up experiences

There are a lot of people I’d call a douchebag, but never once has the thought crossed my mind to liken them to date rapists just because they may be douchebags.

That’s fucked up. Really. Maybe when you’re a little older you’ll understand why.

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by Flashfire on Aug 10, 2011 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think we disagree

on the definition of the word “douchebag”.

by BWH on Aug 10, 2011 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, just on what it encompasses by default

People can be douchebags for a number of reasons including date rape, but being a douchebag doesn’t mean someone would be a date rapist.

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by Flashfire on Aug 10, 2011 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel very comfortable

making a blanket statement on dudes who commit date rape. They are hyper-egotistical and narcissistic and “crush it” with their bros. They are typically in their late teens and twenties. So when I see an egotistical dude with tats and testosterone who is around my age, I immediately make sure no woman I care about is near him in any way. That’s just my nature. I think you are much more detached from the world of date rape than I am.

Also, here.

by BWH on Aug 10, 2011 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

a date rapist can be a douchebag

a douchebag is not always, if ever, a date rapist

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Aug 10, 2011 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the...hell?

Hitler was a douchebag. Not all douchebags are Hitler. Get it?

by danmerqury on Aug 10, 2011 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Under my definition of douchebag,

dudes who are douchebags share a LOT in common with the typical profile for date rapists (and there IS a typical profile for date rapists). I re-quote myself:

I didn’t say he’d commit date rape. I just said he reminds me of certain dudes who have proclivities towards possibly being date rapists, meaning douchebags.

I feel very comfortable saying that date rapists have a distinct general profile, whether or not those who share that profile actually would commit such a heinous crime. Which is why I use it as a descriptive term, despite the fact that it may be offensive to some who are not in my demographic.

by BWH on Aug 10, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Finally,

I refer to this classic FJM post. That features this classic paragraph:

Bra. Seriously, bra. Fuck these nerds. For serious. True story, bra — I’m at the game yesterday. I’m wasted. Seriously, bra, I’ve had like eleven brews. I’m there with my boy Donnie — awesome guy. Solid guy. The papers call him the “Laundry Room Rapist.” So Donnie’s like, “Bra, you want another one?” And I’m like, “Shitchyea, dude! I ain’t driving!” And Donnie’s all, “Bra, you are driving, remember?” And I was like, “Ohhhh shit!” And we high-five, right?

Ken Tremendous describes a d-bag, and implies that said d-bag is close with a date rapist. Like it or not, douchebags and date rapists sharing similarities is a bit of a stereotype, so it’s not like I’m some lone Neanderthal with my views.

by BWH on Aug 10, 2011 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I could have lived my life without reading this

and not missed a thing

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Aug 10, 2011 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know what else overlaps with date rapist?

Being a guy. So you know, you being a guy…

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by elcroata on Aug 10, 2011 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think "douche" is a sexist term

and “Date rapist” is just a description of a jerk.

I would rather see Date rapist.

We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley

by Future Ed on Aug 11, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping that some of the folks reading this won't get the wrong impression of what date rape is compared to what this celebration is

Date rape illegally and immorally violates a woman. It is SERIOUS CRAP. This “kid” was a bit exhuberant. I think it’s perfectly fine to say that you didn’t like his celebration. That’s cool. If you want to think he’s a douchebag, that’s your right.

The analogy should stop there. I personally find it in poor taste and inappropriate and showing a complete lack of understanding.

I’d prefer if we could get back to baseball…heck, even football…or even the Warriors, though I don’t follow hockey.

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Aug 10, 2011 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions   4 recs

This actually sums up my take quite well:

He sets my “douche radar” off big time. Outside of that, I have no more really to say about my 5-minute snapshot of a guy who got a big hit.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 11, 2011 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dallas Braden shows lots of emotion

He has tattoos.

Is he a douchebag?

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Aug 10, 2011 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope, my radar doesn't go off.

There’s more to reading a douche than tats and emotion. Some of it can’t be explained. It’s a sixth sense we 20-ish guys seem to posses almost exclusively.

by BWH on Aug 10, 2011 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're talking to a 24 year old

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Aug 10, 2011 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great!

Hope your radar is as good as mine! That, or you’re just less judgmental than me (which is likely). There’s a reason why sites like Hot Chicks With Douchebags are popular, and that’s because a lot of people just know it when they see it.

by BWH on Aug 10, 2011 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just don't have a lot of evidence against Lawrie

If I hit a grand slam in my first month or so in the majors in front of the home crowd and it gave my team the lead… I’m going to be ecstatic. We just have different douche-dars. Whereas someone like Bryce Harper has had several documented incidents of his douchiness, you’re offering a picture (that hell, could be a parody) and the fact that he’s got Eminem lyrics tattooed on his body as water-tight proof that he’s a douchebag. Choirboy, he may not be, but I don’t see 100% douchebag.

And I don’t visit hot chicks with douchebags.

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Aug 10, 2011 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love me some HCWDB

but then, I love to hate. Also, Lawrie’s had just as many make up questions as Harper, maybe more. All of which I knew about before tonight, and influence my opinion of his douchieness.

From here:

Attitude: This is the big knock on Lawrie and one of the reasons (it is said) that the Brewers were willing to trade him… There are all kinds of stories/rumors about Lawrie’s personality and antics

And then of course we have the Deadspin article from a few months back that details this: Here, and take a look at the first comment as well.

by BWH on Aug 10, 2011 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

What's interesting to me is that I had no idea about any of that

I had never heard he had noted attitude issues or incidents in his past. But what I saw last night pretty much would have made me assume he probably did. People who behave the way he did last night rarely do so in a vacuum. Score one for the “douche radar”.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 11, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

That

and I’ve kinda stopped caring about douchebags.

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Aug 10, 2011 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was 24 ten years ago

I’m pretty sure what makes someone a douchebag doesn’t change all that much in ten years.

I’m just not as judgmental, that’s for sure.

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by Flashfire on Aug 11, 2011 5:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

But don't you feel honored to know that God is on AN tonight?

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Aug 10, 2011 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is???

HI BRANDON!!!!!!!!!!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 11, 2011 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

You should cash in on your extraordinary talents

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by elcroata on Aug 10, 2011 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cirque du Soleil?

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by elcroata on Aug 10, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

While lighting their farts on fire

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Aug 10, 2011 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

and a complimentary

guess-the-date-rapist-in-the-audience stunt

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by elcroata on Aug 10, 2011 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

In case you didn't know, a LOT of non-A's fans think Dallas Braden is a huge douchebag

And that’s based on how he generally comes off. We know he’s more intelligent and well-spoken than he seems at first glance, but it took some of us hearing that to know. But the 209 tattoo? The mini-fro he had a few years ago? Some of his general actions? You could definitely see some douchebag in him.

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by Flashfire on Aug 11, 2011 5:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

I’m not a huge fan of Dallas either. This might be a generational thing though, I was taught about respect growing up, and was spanked when I did something bad. To my knowledge (AND to make a generalization), these two things are no longer a cornerstone of modern parenting, and it shows in the current generation of 15-25 year olds. Have you heard about this rap group Odd Future? They are the poster children of this.

by PL78 on Aug 11, 2011 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was gonna say, this Lawrie kid looks as if he doesn't need any more, um, seasoning in the minors.

"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto

by emperor nobody on Aug 10, 2011 8:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Ooh, sounds spicy!

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

That seems like a perfectly appropriate picture after seeing how he acted tonight

"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford

"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball

by darooster on Aug 10, 2011 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, kind of like Brett Anderson's picture of him with $1 bills in his hands, and each arm around a girl.

AN considered that just fun.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

classy.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, but come on. This photo looks stupid, granted

But look at Lawrie’s and all the things it includes from the douchebag, frat boy handbook: Shirt off, forty in hand, sideways baseball cap, goofy ass facial expression. You wanna punch that guy.

"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford

"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball

by darooster on Aug 10, 2011 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

His face is incredibly punchable

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by TheSoundOfHockey on Aug 10, 2011 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

TBH,

Both guys look stupid in their pics.

by Jason James on Aug 11, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah i dont wanna be too judgemental

considering we didnt view Brett Anderson’s like that.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have to realize that Brett is "Our guy".

Lowrie isn’t

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh i totally understand.

just trying to be fair.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was being sarcastic. I think both actions are wrong. Brett's is worse, IMO

[ because of innuendo]

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah.

yeah. sorry i didnt pick up on the sarcasm

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I missplaced the font.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice going.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

You'll get old, one of these days.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

We'll see about that!

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

True

You may not live that long, especially if you don’t show respect to the elderly.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Screw old people!

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dream on, kid.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

cougar hunter?

"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford

"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball

by darooster on Aug 10, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brett's are not worse because its clearly posed

Lawrie was going to look like that no matter what, that 40 is taped to his hand btw. Dude was raging like a fratboy.

by PL78 on Aug 10, 2011 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

But weren't they just above average girls

Not hot girls? That makes a slight diff. It was comical, because it seemed so weird for BA.

"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford

"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball

by darooster on Aug 10, 2011 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still just a young kid acting out.

I sure don’t teach my boys this is proper.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always felt

given the girls’ expressions in BA’s pic and the $1 bills that Brett was trying to make a joke, a parody of these kind of pix.

"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto

by emperor nobody on Aug 10, 2011 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I'm saying

"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford

"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball

by darooster on Aug 10, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

you are way too hung up on this.

give the kid a break, jeez.

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Aug 10, 2011 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I find this

… funny :-)

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Aug 10, 2011 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

good for you

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Aug 11, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meh

I don’t watch baseball to see high moral class; I watch it to see excellent physical specimens perform athletic feats.

(insert joke about the A’s being such people)

by Rebuilding Season on Aug 10, 2011 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

awesome to judge someone based off one picture he had as a 19 or 20 year old.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

So we can't judge you until we see a picture of you in like 4 years?

"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford

"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball

by darooster on Aug 10, 2011 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh, he is just being pre-emtive

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by Future Ed on Aug 10, 2011 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't see much of a problem with this picture

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by Future Ed on Aug 10, 2011 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just don't understand taping the forty to your hand

That would get your beer warm quick

"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford

"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball

by darooster on Aug 10, 2011 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

happens when you roommat is F******* sick of you asking where your beer is.

not that I would know or anything

We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley

by Future Ed on Aug 10, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh

I guess once you get to that point, you couldn’t care less if the beer gets warm

"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford

"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball

by darooster on Aug 10, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

perhaps he can not keep his beer in hand elsewise.

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Aug 10, 2011 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

that sounds very diplomatic.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have heard that about myself before...

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Aug 10, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

This IS how I interpreted the picture.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why is the emphasis on is?

"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford

"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball

by darooster on Aug 10, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because that was how I saw the pic.

I didn’t see anything wrong with the picture at all.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just thought you would emphasize I instead of IS

Cuz I read it like this:

"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford

"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball

by darooster on Aug 10, 2011 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

not me

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by Future Ed on Aug 10, 2011 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Edward 40-hands.

The point is you tape two forties to your hands and have to finish both before you’re allowed to use your hands to do anything. More specifically, before you’re allowed to use your hands to urinate.

by BWH on Aug 11, 2011 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

And a jerky HR celebration in a meaningless game!

And after searching google, it appears he is a tool. So, judgement is in: Lawrie’s an immature douchebag. Hopefully he can learn what class is and not inspire other people to be douchebags too….

by PL78 on Aug 10, 2011 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT - you wanna talk douchbags?

CJ Wilson – I hope we hand it to him on a platter on Fri

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Aug 10, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

ME TOO!

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

LAWYERBALL!

Bring up the first witness!

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by Nico on Aug 10, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

THIS.

"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Aug 10, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not trying to be confrontational,

but for someone who doesnt want people to judge them from stuff on the internet, you seem to be doing a lot of that.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm here to talk about baseball and the public figures who get paid millions associated with it.

Because its my right to as a fan. I am not here to talk about my personal opinions on other people who have opinions on baseball. I am also not a public figure, nor do i make the money they do, nor am I involved with baseball….and hey, Lawrie can always, yknow, not do what he did. That would effect my opinion on him.

by PL78 on Aug 10, 2011 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

i dont think that was relevant at all.

and he doesn’t make millions. he makes league minimum. He’s been in the minors for the last 3 years, so he’s been making somewhere between 40k and 80k a year from what i understand.

Also, you completely avoided what i was saying.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't even know what youre saying.

Do you understand that players get millions for signing as bonuses?

Are you saying that because I one time called a player a db for something he did one time, that equals “a lot” now? And also that I researched him on google and I’m not the first person to ever throw around the term with him?

Its like I have a sweater that is my point, but there’s like, one loose thread and instead of looking at the sweater and saying “Oh yeah, I understand thats a sweater” you instead find the loose thread, and pull at it. No one wins and you only make the sweater look shitty, but its still a sweater. That’s what people who pick a pretty inconsequential part of my point to try and rip apart my posts on AN do. You are digging me for a fight here, and I really dont care about talking about myself, so see that road up there? I’m on it.

by PL78 on Aug 11, 2011 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

The vast majority of them don't get much of a bonus at all

The only ones who get a lot of money to sign are the high picks that aren’t graduating college.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Aug 11, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

he is lucky he is canadian (drinking age 19)

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by Future Ed on Aug 10, 2011 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh, eh, eh

M-A, M-A-R, M-A-R-K, Ell-is!

by Englishmajor on Aug 10, 2011 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

AA

Alex Anthopoulos

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by Future Ed on Aug 10, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

OH SHIT

a college age kid played a drinking game he’s obviously not going to be a good person1

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Aug 10, 2011 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

hee.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. —Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Aug 10, 2011 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh and it's legal for him.

OH NO

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

IS this with the new coach?

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Aug 10, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did not see it.....what game was this?

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Aug 10, 2011 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

friendly vs mexico

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by stm72 on Aug 10, 2011 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh.....some of those games have been tough in the past.

how did I not know about this!?? OH……this is a BASEBALL site, huh.

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Aug 10, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

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by stm72 on Aug 10, 2011 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

SOOO much better.

Ref sucked, but that was great.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

you mean yellow?

yeah there was some real bs. But Shea really impressed me, despite his stupid hair, and agudelo looked good.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah it really should have been.

im shocked it wasnt. and that we didnt get at least one PK

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep.

oh well. FIFA sucks.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

The ref was just awful

Donovan even said that the ref wasn’t up for the game. Giving a yellow card on the play on Rogers really was ridiculous – that was about as clear a red card as there can be.

by longtimeasfan on Aug 10, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

seriously.

btw… you know youre handle almost reads as long time ass fan?

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you talking to

the eas fan named Tim who is well endowed?

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by Nico on Aug 10, 2011 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

never thought of that

you’re right it almost does – probably wouldn’t really work very well on any site other than an A’s site.

by longtimeasfan on Aug 10, 2011 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's not a bad thing, fwiw.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brek Shea, Agudelo, Donaven, Dempsey, and Stuart Holden all need to see the field together.

On another note, Michael Bradley needs to never be an attacking Mid ever again. Castillo, should probably quit playing soccer. And I thought Ricardo Clark was, rightfully, gone forever.

by Pop N' Locktapus on Aug 10, 2011 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh.

davies would be a nice addition. rogers was fun to watch.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

dude has wheels. need moar speed.

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by stm72 on Aug 10, 2011 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

always.

i love speed. May not be the most necessary, but it sure is fun to watch.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

i cant wait for the day we're actually good at soccer.

now that im really starting to get into it.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

woo!

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by stm72 on Aug 10, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm really excited for Arsenal to start playing again.

I think they might be exciting this year.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd love to see us also have a precision passing game....

I am amazed at this when I see Spain playing.

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Aug 10, 2011 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously.

Spain is just soo good.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

umm hmm....my dtr LOVES them and she is a good judge.

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Aug 10, 2011 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

our game is more open field, slashing runs and through balls. that's why i covet speed.

remember the core of the spain team plays together as a club team too. they get more practice together than any other team. it’s a style they can play. the us cannot, yet.

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by stm72 on Aug 10, 2011 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Something like 6 starters on the national team is on Barca.

They have ridiculous chemistry.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

definitely.

my plan would have the MLS just serve as like a minor league system for the EPL and La Liga, and have like two or 3 teams that play a lot of the americans together.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's not elite enough, but i hear ya

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by stm72 on Aug 10, 2011 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well hopefully it would bring the level of play up.

I’m talking like real partnership with those leagues. I think it could be mutually beneficial.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Finally, a discussion I can sink my teeth into here: Auto racing!

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Aug 10, 2011 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Link below

Sonoma Race

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Aug 10, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not a big open-wheeler, but I've sorta paid more attention the past couple years.

I was debating going to check out the Indy cars at Sonoma. I have no idea if I have scheduling conflicts though.

by LoneStranger on Aug 10, 2011 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Open wheelers are fun

But one of the support races is Acuras versus Camaros and Mustangs…and I own an Acura (albeit a 2004) so I have to root for them!

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Aug 10, 2011 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ooh, sounds like fun.

I’d have to root for the Mustangs though.

by LoneStranger on Aug 10, 2011 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

WRONG ANSWER

Though I believe they’re leading in the series. Odd pairing V8s against V6s.

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Aug 10, 2011 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

You mean like...

The Yankees, RedSox, and Phillies? Sounds about right.

by Colorado Fan on Aug 11, 2011 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not a Rogers fan, but I like Davies.

Also, would like to see Teal Bunbury get a call.

by Pop N' Locktapus on Aug 10, 2011 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

anybody but buddle and altidore. please.

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by stm72 on Aug 10, 2011 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

one guy i follow on twitter loves Buddle apparently.

Those are safe guys, like the Conor Jackson type i feel.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, im fine with that.

agudelo really is our future at forward, if we have one. he needs to see as much action as possible.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed about Buddle.

He’s just not very good. I also really want to see them go with 2 strikers. I would mind seeing Agudelo and Dempset, with Donovan, Holden, Torres and maybe Shea or Bradley in midfield.

by longtimeasfan on Aug 10, 2011 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

That wouldnt be awful.

Torres hasnt impressed me too much.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought he was good tonight

in the first half, one of the few who impressed me. He just didn’t really have anyone to pass or cross to.

by longtimeasfan on Aug 10, 2011 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didnt get to watch the first half unfortunately.

But he did make a few nice plays later in the second.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

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by stm72 on Aug 10, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

YUP

Looking forward to seeing Chandler and Lichaj at Right Back and Left Back.

by longtimeasfan on Aug 10, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can i get some info on those guys?

never really heard of them

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

They are both Defenders

Chandler generally plays Right Back – he’s an 18 year old from Germany – father was in military I believe so he is eligible to play for US. He played in some games in the Spring and in my opinion was really impressive – he gets forward very well – but had a long season and has been a bit injured.

Lichaj is also fairly young, and can play RB or LB – I thought he was impressive in the Gold Cup – again got forward very well and crossed the ball in well. Its good to have these guys coming up as Cherundolo, Bocanegra, and Gooch are aging.

by longtimeasfan on Aug 10, 2011 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is he the guy that was in that horrible accident?

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Aug 10, 2011 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Davies?

yeah. car accident, right?

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

last time i heard, it was something like that.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes, good knowledge

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by stm72 on Aug 10, 2011 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did not realize he was playing again.

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Aug 10, 2011 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

he's playing in mls again. haven't heard whether he's at full strength and speed yet.

he and donovan have worked well together in the past.

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by stm72 on Aug 10, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

IIRC - he was awesome.

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Aug 10, 2011 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

awesome is a big word, but he was clearly one of our better attackers before he got hurt.

a guy like dempsey would do better if we had multiple guys that required defensive attention too.

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by stm72 on Aug 10, 2011 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where was dempsey tonight?

And yeah Davies just is a nice fit on the team.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

dunno. hurt?

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by stm72 on Aug 10, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Premiership starts this weekend

I think Klinsman probably decidied would be better for him to stay in England and be prepared for the start of the season. Same with Lichaj I think whose trying to get in at Aston Villa. For Dempsey – I think Klinsmann knows what he has in him and was ok keeping him off this time. i’m sure he’ll be in the September games.

by longtimeasfan on Aug 10, 2011 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

ok thanks

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

this sub thread is a good reason for the powers that be to open a ct thread

We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley

by Future Ed on Aug 10, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

FOR REALS

"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford

"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball

by darooster on Aug 10, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just had to ask some questions....sorry to hijack the BB talk!

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Aug 10, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

i thought about it,

glad you started.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't blame you I would be excited too

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by Future Ed on Aug 10, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

woo!

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by stm72 on Aug 10, 2011 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

so you're saying we will never know when we are gonna cash in......

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Aug 10, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

...

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 10, 2011 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

big picture is big.

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

the img-height-nazi must be having a day off

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Aug 11, 2011 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't think it would be readable at 200 or whatever the "rule" is.

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by Nico on Aug 11, 2011 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're right

The black part might have become illegible

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Aug 11, 2011 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do we have a lounge yet?

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by thewhizkid on Aug 10, 2011 8:41 PM PDT reply actions  

lulz

astros just flubbed the fake to third go to first move. Whiz’s new first place team scored a run on the play

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by Future Ed on Aug 10, 2011 8:43 PM PDT reply actions  

oops, sorry gnats

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by stm72 on Aug 10, 2011 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

So many Brett Lawrie comments above

I agree with all who think he is a tool. I remember when he was traded and reading an article about him, I immediately couldn’t control my judgments. Having grown up in a college town (SLO) I was able to do a social study throughout my life, and while some tools are nice and just misguided, Brett Lawrie seems to be toolish and proud. Here is the link.

http://www.millerparkdrunk.com/baseball/milwaukee-brewers-baseball/brewers-get-marcum-from-toronto-for-brett-lawrie-lawrie-revealed-as-tool/

My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Aug 10, 2011 9:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Although, the dugout celebration didn't bother me at all.

My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Aug 10, 2011 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I checked Sacramento

Um, not much in the way of a bullpen. As the pastor said in Blazing Saddles: You’re on your own kid.

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Aug 10, 2011 11:11 PM PDT reply actions  

It's a nice bullpen... well constructed and easily visible to fans on the berm.

Too bad nobody with any talent is currently sitting in it.

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It’s twisty, which I love."- lynnzgal

by Gaijin_Suketto on Aug 10, 2011 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, they seem to think that high WHIP is a good thing

Right above the thigh perhaps…

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Aug 10, 2011 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blatant attempt to out do The WhizKid in FanPost comments

Take the poll on my fanpost about a “6 man rotation”. Vote early and vote often!

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Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Aug 10, 2011 11:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow

Some game. Gio was OK, but Breslow completely failed, and the runs were put on Gio’s line. It might be one of the worst games we’ve played on this road trip; then again, some have been so bad…..

by Jason James on Aug 11, 2011 1:12 AM PDT reply actions  

I can't consider Gio's performance OK in any way, shape or form

He threw about 110 pitches and recorded 15 outs. Walked 5 on top of that. Unacceptable to require your bullpen to be used so early.

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by Flashfire on Aug 11, 2011 5:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn't there some issue in the first that the ump kinda blew that caused him to have to throw more?

I wasn’t paying that much attention, but I thought I heard the announcers say that a 3-0 count should have been strike 3.

by LoneStranger on Aug 11, 2011 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

That he only gave up one run in the 1st 5 innings was lucky

He was all over the place and giving up a lot of fly balls.

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by cuppingmaster on Aug 11, 2011 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I Guess

Still, what’s wrong with Gio? Mechanical issues? Hidden injury? It’s weird.

by Jason James on Aug 11, 2011 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

It seems to me, that since he was lit up by the Rangers, ( they refused to swing at his curve in the dirt),

he has gotten away from throwing it as much. He needs to get back to using it more.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 11, 2011 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

His Curve Is Great

It helped him be at the top of his game. It would be a bit like Zito giving up his curve when he was working on a Cy Young campaign.

by Jason James on Aug 11, 2011 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Young players acting way out of line?

Perhaps better look here (no Pams)

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by elcroata on Aug 11, 2011 7:27 AM PDT reply actions  

to be fair, watching from the CF angle on milb.com

that pitch was WAY outside…

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by King Richard on Aug 11, 2011 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heh

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by elcroata on Aug 11, 2011 7:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Back to the Game

Why was Breslow called upon the pitch to Hill, Arencibia, LAWRIE, Davis, and Escobar (and then Bautista)… FIVE consecutive RH Batters??? Doesn’t it seems like a time to use one of our RHP? We’ve argued managers decisions a lot this year. This has to be at the top of the list, no?

Anyone have the Pitches Gio threw in the sixth inning? Was Gio getting squeezed?

Late.

by Colorado Fan on Aug 11, 2011 8:03 AM PDT reply actions  

IIRC, Breslow's splits are reversed

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by cuppingmaster on Aug 11, 2011 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

This was the first game where the loss of Ziggy was truly felt

Bases loaded, no outs, 3-1 lead too early for Balfour/Bailey, and 5 RH batters due up. If we keep the damage to 1 run we probably win, and Ziggy would have had a good chance to do that.

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by Nico on Aug 11, 2011 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

True

Then again, with the struggles he’d had, maybe he would have choked as well.

by Jason James on Aug 11, 2011 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Because when professional athletes do not perform to the bloggers’ likings, they “choke”.

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by elcroata on Aug 11, 2011 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I demand perfection!

Why should the players be different than the Umpires?

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 11, 2011 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think we played worse games in that freakin Seattle series.

Yesterday we were playing with fire with all the baserunners. We got burned hard. (And lost!)

by player20 on Aug 11, 2011 8:50 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

It's not about how well they played

I have an issue with the (over)use of word choke, as it implies that players had their diapers full. It accuses them of being unable to perform under pressure, whereas the ones we accuse of it have succeeded in such situations thousands times more then those who write about them. Every time a pitcher faces a batter, one of them will win. But that’s not because the other one has “choked”.

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by elcroata on Aug 11, 2011 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

Someone must come out on top in every play. Most of the time, the other guy just beats you. If he came in and threw the pitch into the stands.. that is choking. This isn’t in that category.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 11, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I only said that because someone said yesterday's game was the worst on the road trip.

I just think the Seattle games are worse only because I expected the A’s to play a lot better than they did. You can’t give a lineup like Toronto extra opportunities.

by player20 on Aug 11, 2011 9:07 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

It's Not About What About What I Want

What should I have said. If Ziegler had gone out there, he would have had one mission: to prevent the Jays from scoring. Difficult, but his job isn’t easy. If he had had gone out there and given up a grand slam, would that have been a job well done? No. Though, perhaps choke is too harsh a word.
I mean, he’s messed up before. Take the Tampa Bay game, where he came out and struggled with his control to mess up big time. What would you call that? What would you call Jeremy Giambi’s failure to slide in the ALDS (apart from stupid)?

by Jason James on Aug 11, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why so obnoxious the past two weeks?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 11, 2011 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not you, elcroata

Seems like he’s gone from being really pleasant for years, to having a bee in his bonnet and a snarky comment to all about everything, the last couple weeks. Very odd.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 11, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tired from the dog-days of summer?

This year seems to be dragging on me as well.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 11, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Woof.

Certainly the season hasn’t put any of us in a terrific mood! Thank God Brandon Allen is coming to save the franchise. Or should I say, thank Allen that He’s coming?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 11, 2011 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seems the same to me

"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli

by cuppingmaster on Aug 11, 2011 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes

same guy indeed

"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli

by cuppingmaster on Aug 11, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Someone made a statement I disagree with

I responded in a sarcastic manner. I then further explained why my opinion differs.

What part of it makes me odiously or disgustingly objectionable : highly offensive ? The fact that I have a differing opinion? The fact that I acted on it and wrote a response? Or (probably) that my response was written in sarcastic font?

So is use of sarcasm a sin for which the only justly punishment is a personal insult?

I also find it very interesting that out of all the opportunities that presented themselves in this thread, you felt that my comment was the one that needed lecturing on.

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by elcroata on Aug 11, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, not trying to start a fight

Just noticing a weird pattern the last couple weeks from someone who has been utterly awesome for years. Hope you’re ok.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 11, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

.

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by elcroata on Aug 12, 2011 2:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

dan, you graduated with a degree in Chemical Engineering, correct?

What field/ industry do you plan on going into? I’m not trying to get too personal, just wondering…

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 11, 2011 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chemical Physics.

And looking in the energy industry, right now, at least.

by danmerqury on Aug 11, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ok. Is there something special you want to accomplish?

Like a low cost fuel alternative? Do you hope to remain in California? I just don’t know much about the field in general.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 11, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Probably not.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 11, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

So

you have now called me pathetic and obnoxious in the span of, what, 40 hours? If you are preparing ground to ask me out for a dinner, I think you are doing it wrong.

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by elcroata on Aug 11, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking lunch.

I’m at a place in my life where I can’t really commit to dinner.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 11, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great observation, Nico

It was a good move for us, but we have to expect the loss of Ziggy to hurt us in the short-term.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 11, 2011 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully, Not Long Term

If Allen and Norberto struggle, while Ziegler pitches well, then that trade would not have gone well.

by Jason James on Aug 11, 2011 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't see it that way.

BB must do something to address our offensive problems. Just because they may not work out, doesn’t mean it is a bad move. Sitting on his hands, bemoaning the stadium situation would be bad.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 11, 2011 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, Yeah

It is a move that looks good, and a move that needed to be made. We need offense. Still, it would be nice to see results.

by Jason James on Aug 11, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I expect Ziegler to pitch well. He's going to the NL! He should have an advantage.

Now hitters coming from the NL to the AL? They usually struggle.

by player20 on Aug 11, 2011 9:15 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Accepted!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 11, 2011 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

General Mills?

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 11, 2011 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Versus Specific Moscoso.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 11, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ops, I made a boo-boo.

I thought you were talking about the Brad Mills, manager of the Astros. Raised in Exeter, and lives in Visalia.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 11, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

How about that Bryce Harper eh?

To be 18 and act like you can do this to a grown up man, is thoroughly disrespectful. I don’t think Harper’s parents ever gave him a spanking when he was bad growing up, because he clearly has no idea what respect is. The way he got in the umps face made my blood boil. You can tell this kid has the most ridiculous sense of entitlement. He’s going to be the most hated player since Bonds if he keeps this up.

by PL78 on Aug 11, 2011 9:18 AM PDT reply actions  

He'll be the baseball equivalent of LeBron James

which is a sad thing.

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- Simmons Mailbag, 8/5/11

by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 11, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

He'll get his humble pie, I'm sure

As Lawrie may, today.

"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli

by cuppingmaster on Aug 11, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

meh, people are what they are.

Sweeney is considered by some as being too mellow, and not showing enough fire. Pete Rose was 10X as bad as Lowrie, yet many want him in the HOF. I don’t, because of his behavior. This all boils down to personal preference.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 11, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

All things being equal, I'd rather have a mellow player than a fired up one

That said, Rose has few equals and should be in the HOF, no questions asked.

"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli

by cuppingmaster on Aug 11, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree about liking mellow player more.

The rap on them is that they don’t play with enough intensity. I think they do, they just don’t show it.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 11, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think Rose is an apt example though

Because he only got more in-your-face as he got older/more apparent he was a star. As a rookie he wasn’t trying to fight everyone and generally wasn’t as corny as Lawrie was the other night, it was only when the 70s started that Rose became the celebrity and got more hot headed….which also may also have something to do with the prevalence of cocaine in the 70s with baseball players (watch the documentary about Bill Lee to see how loose it was back then).

by PL78 on Aug 11, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did I see we batted around twice in one inning todaY??

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by Berry Jo on Aug 11, 2011 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

While I agree that the kid has some growing up to do,

I disagree with your premise that giving a spanking =/= teaching respect. There are plenty of other ways to go about it.

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by PDXAthleticsfan on Aug 11, 2011 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, its how I learned it.

I know there are other, arguably better ways, but when I was a 7 year old brat and got in the face of someone older than me and showed disrespect, my dad gave me a few across the butt and even though I cried, I learned my lesson and also, no permanent (or even semi-permanent, the red marks went away after an hour or so) was done. But I didn’t want to experience that pain again, so I didn’t disrespect my elders.

I know my generation was one of the last ones where that was common, and most stopped because “teaching violence” but guess what, humans are violent and need violence to teach them a lesson. Even in my 20s when I got in fights in bars or whatever and have gotten my butt kicked, there really was that moment when on the way home I thought “You know what, I kind of did cross a line there, I kind of deserved that” (comedian Bill Burr has a bit about this too) We are now learning that children act like animals if they don’t have to suffer any consequences for their actions. Sweeping generalization, but the current younger generation of kids dont respect anything or anyone, and Harper is a shining example.

by PL78 on Aug 11, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meh...

That is a sweeping generalization, and for every Harper, there are many who aren’t brought up with a sense of entitlement. We just notice the ones that act as such. I can’t name one A’s prospect or youngster that seems to have the same attitude.

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by PDXAthleticsfan on Aug 11, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

{Ian Krol}

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 11, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK, so one...

Don't you realise you'll find next monday or next Tuesday/Your golden shoes day

by PDXAthleticsfan on Aug 11, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sadly,

as much I as wish and hope the youth wouldn’t be dbags, they really are, more often than not. Hey, I hope they prove me wrong. But wow, it hasn’t been this bad before….this experiment of punishing kids “with love” that has become the norm since the 90s, has been a failure. We ended up raising an entire generation of entitled, vapid, disrespectful people. Its a bad scene. Lets hope it gets better, but it probably wont.

Ever seen the film Idiocracy before? It is truly the future.

by PL78 on Aug 11, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm going to leave it at agreeing at disagreeing

because I disagree.

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by PDXAthleticsfan on Aug 11, 2011 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm all for respect, but the elders sometimes blow it all out of proportion.

For example,

“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”

This quote is attributed to Socrates. Whether or not he actually said it doesn’t matter. Parents have been concerned about the wild youth for a LONG time.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 12, 2011 6:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heh. Plato must have been a handful.

Don't you realise you'll find next monday or next Tuesday/Your golden shoes day

by PDXAthleticsfan on Aug 12, 2011 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

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