A’s A Bit Fried By Lawrie
So, I'm not sure that Gio Gonzalez pitched better or worse than his line shows, but in five plus innings, it's probably not a good showing when you allow five walks and four runs, no matter the reason. Gio threw a tremendous amount of pitches (60 in the first two innings) and the A's bullpen and offense just couldn't save him. This marks yet another pedestrian outing for Gio Gonzalez.
The real damage in the game tonight was done by rookie Brett Lawrie; all he did in his first week of work was connect with a grand slam to seal the loss for the A's tonight. He was also excited about it, in the way only a 21-year-old can be after THE hit of his early career.
Gio allowed one run in the first inning; the A's would tie the game on a solo homerun by David DeJesus in the fourth. They would also tack on two more on a double by Sweeney and a single by Sizemore, and seemed to be in great shape. Unfortunately, the sixth inning happened. Gio Gonzalez gave up a double and a walk to open the inning, but had a chance to get an out on the bases. However, instead of picking off the runner at second, Kurt Suzuki threw the ball into center field. After another walk loaded the bases, Gio was yanked in favor of Craig Breslow. Keep in mind, the game was 3-1 at this point.
Hide the kids and don't watch the next series of pitches. Breslow gave up an RBI single, would sandwich in a strikeout, and then would give up Lawrie's grand slam. Not so helpful, Bres.
The Jays would tack on another run in the seventh, and another in the eighth, and the A's would put a meaningless Willingham homerun on the board in the ninth; sadly a solo shot, and not the game-tying grand slam. So the A's lose 8-4, and drop Gio under .500 on the season. We play the rubber game tomorrow morning; don't forget!
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"However, instead of picking off the runner at second, Kurt Suzuki threw the ball into center field."
Not sure if you saw it happen, but Suzuki’s throw was there and Pennington just missed it. Tough error to give to the catcher there, not Suzuki’s fault at all.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
This was one of Kurt's better throws lately.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Yes. Should have been an E6, IMO
And they had Lind dead to rights. Typical “A’s infield 2011” play.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I saw the replay and thought it bounced in front of him.
I was with the scorekeeper, but maybe I should take another look
"Oh who am I kidding? The A's and Giants could stage a pillow fight, and I'd still care who wins." -67Marquez
by baseballgirl on Aug 10, 2011 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
So... We lost?
Darn! I like win streaks
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
NONSENSE
I’m ready for some football!!!!
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
How very sad for you.
I’m sorry to hear this.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
I think most fans of both sports would at least put them even with each other
I love baseball, but I don’t think it’s way better than football. If we were rating them from 1-10, Football would be a 9.5 and baseball a 9 for me.
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
For me, baseball's a 10 while football is a -1.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Aug 10, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
you are being kind
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
by Future Ed on Aug 10, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So baseball is a 56 and Football is a 45?
by Rebuilding Season on Aug 10, 2011 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope, you only add to baseball.
There is nothing positive to add to football
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
For me, baseball is a 97 and football is a 32
but a 32 on a cold winter Sunday is better than nothing.
Pabst still makes 32oz bottles, right?
"It's decent.
It’s twisty, which I love."- lynnzgal
by Gaijin_Suketto on Aug 10, 2011 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
They buy the bottles
It’s what they fill them with that you have to worry about.
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
This comment is perhaps the most perfect thing ever written.
"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."
Baseball>basketball>women's softball>women's volleyball(indoor)>football
by player20 on Aug 11, 2011 8:16 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Chess, Cheerleading, and Curling should be between
women’s volleyball( indoor), and football.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
You forgot Jiskefet
2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too
If I said," all sports unknown, or, not yet invented", would that about cover it?
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Forgot cheerleading! Also add Women's Track and Field (hottest female athletes) and Women's Water Polo.
by player20 on Aug 11, 2011 8:35 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Isn't he playing OF for us in Sac?
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Nah
Cesta punta is for sissies, pelota mano is the real sport.
2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too
Tough guys
Don’t mess with those
2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too
I too feel sorry for you
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
Terrible headline.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Can I respectfully take issue with the line
He was also excited about it, in the way only a 21-year-old can be after THE hit of his early career.
One can, in fact, be really excited and pumped up without coming across as a frat boy who has traded all his brain cells for testosterone, as Lawrie did in the dugout. I have zero respect for that crap.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
yknow a lot of 21 year olds actually are in a frat...
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
This.
He’s a kid, and he just hit a go ahead grand slam for the first home run in his hometown. Heaven forbid he show emotion. It’s not like he mooned the A’s on his way around the bases; he was just ridiculously jazzed, as he should be.
by Rebuilding Season on Aug 10, 2011 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm talking about the garbage he did in the dugout
That’s not “showing emotion”. That’s just acting like a f***ing idiot.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
i didnt watch,
what did he do exactly?
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
He high fived a bunch of people, woo'd a bunch
and then when he had trouble taking off his helmet he just hit it onto the ground and then woo’d a bunch more.
by Rebuilding Season on Aug 10, 2011 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
i dont see a problem in that.
especially given the circumstances.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Link
by Rebuilding Season on Aug 10, 2011 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, no problem at all
i just wish we had a 3rd baseman, home grown, who had his capabilities and enthusiam.
by robertmelvin on Aug 11, 2011 5:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I see a problem, but not a big one
he needs to be a little classier, but you give him a pass because of the circumstances.
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
ill concur with that.
its not something that should happen every time, or probably ever again, but a big homerun in a big situation for his first is pretty exciting.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
yeah, I get it, but If I was on the team I would say, "kid, cool it"
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
heh yeah.
a vet should have done that.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
I'll go out on a limb and say I think it was perfectly fine
Heaven help us if we get to the point where we can’t express our excitment at success. It wasn’t like the bowling pin incident (which was truly low class). He did nothing to show up the A’s.
I ask myself what would I have done if I’m a young athlete, bred to competition, I’m in my home country, my first week, the world is at my feet and I hit a grand slam to take the lead in a game? I’m not sure I would have been as behaved as he was.
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
by WhizDad on Aug 10, 2011 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hell yeah
You want to see classless overdone celebrations, go to football or soccer
2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too
Yeah, I can live without the stupid dances in the end zone
which are pre-planned and orchestrated…not spontaneous.
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
I was thinking about the bowling pin incident.
I’m conflicted on that one. From a strictly spectator view, it was entertaining. But the competitive athlete in me thought it was disrespectful. I do like Fielder’s “sparring” HR celebrations, though.
by player20 on Aug 11, 2011 8:21 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Beating a team thats over 10 games under .500 when your own team is 10+ games out of 1st place in what is therefore a meaningless August game.
Totally uncalled for. Those kind of emotions are only allowed in the playoffs. Lawrie and Harper are two massive douchebags that we are all going to have to get used to if their teams dont force them to learn how to be better people, sigh. Wish there were more ichiro-types, you can get away with being brash if you are also very weird or ominous like he is. He’s essentially the Japanese James Bond at this point.
I'll disagree.
I dont know about Lawrie, but Harper obviously has that reputation. If they’re good players, i dont think it’s a big deal. ARod’s kind of a big douche, and i doubt you wouldn’t want him on the team.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
You have decided Lawrie is a massive douchebag
because of one play. Well, okay then.
Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli
by MissOakland on Aug 10, 2011 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Actually, I have too.
But that’s partly because I’ve never seen anyone who acted the way he did in the dugout turn out to be “not a douche”. Plus, it’s sports and the internet and I get to make snapshot judgments of people based on 5 second clips!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I would do that if I ever hit a Grand Slam in softball
For sure.
by Rebuilding Season on Aug 10, 2011 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I never said you weren't a douche!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Could have been worse.
He could have done this.
Q: Who is playing you in the movie about the ESPN book? I think it should be Adam Sandler — you both peaked 12 years ago.
— Timmy, Winchester, MA
- Simmons Mailbag, 8/5/11
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 10, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
woah, youre alive.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Not really.
Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli
Hello, MO!
How is the big city of Tracy this evening?
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Stay undead, my friend.
"It's decent.
It’s twisty, which I love."- lynnzgal
by Gaijin_Suketto on Aug 10, 2011 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
He was in the dugout already, if it wasn't 2011, with camera's, camera phones, and more mediaq
than should be allowed, we wouldn’t have seen what he did.
by theblackpearl on Aug 10, 2011 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Naw, we had that in 2010
But point taken.
Had it been the 1960s, they probably would have popped a greenie and had a Miller High Life in the dugout.
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
by WhizDad on Aug 10, 2011 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
the threw his helmet, screamed "woo" and such
but a lot. It was gauche, he should’t do it, likely won’t in the future.
You should act like you have been there before, he did not.
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
But he's NEVER been there before!
I will forgive some celebration, but he acted too douchey
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
Yeah, but can't you forgive a kid who hasn't been there before, just a little?
I’m just saying in general. We don’t disagree about this Lowrie kid, he overdid it and it pissed me off. But generally I am ok with some celebration and not “acting like you’ve been there before” all the time
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
I asked myself this:
“How did Derek Jeter handle the situation” I hate him as a player but he certainly has class and knows his place. Acting like you cured cancer and won the WS in 1 swing in a totally meaningless game is overdoing it. It just warranted a smile and an “aw, shucks” vibe.
It was ONE play, dude.
He got excited. No need to judge him on one reaction.
Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli
No, its a series of things.
Of course I wouldnt judge a person off one incident. I used google before decided he was a db.
Douchey is a good word to describe it
I don’t care that he was happy, or that he celebrated. He just did it in the most douchey way possible, and way over the top. Lowered my opinion of him a lot.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
He didn't flip anyone off, or yell at the pitcher,
or do some stupid dance. I could see it being wayyyy more douchey.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
With Weaver?
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
here
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=17526209&topic_id=&c_id=mlb&tcid=vpp_copy_17526209&v=3
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
this has back story though
Weaver was mouthing off to Ordonez. I have no problem with guillen
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
in a vacuum though.
like id be much more upset if someone did that than doing something in the dugout.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
im fine that guillen did it because he was standing up for a teammate.
just i imagine its more of a show up if its on the field than in the dugout.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
THIS
He was backing up a teammate
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
Well, just to be clear I have no issue whatsoever
with anything he did on the field. It was the charade in the dugout that bugged me, and I stand by saying that was unclassy frat boy douchery at its unclassy frat boy doucheriest.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
i'm talking about that too.
i still see it being much worse.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
I find Balfour's open use of foul language much worse than Lowrie's actions.
Kid’s watch these games, and I find Grant very offensive. Mulder’s use of his glove to cover his mouth is much classier.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
by Tutu-late on Aug 10, 2011 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hmm interesting point.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
I find Norberto's actions more offensive than Balfour's
And I’m referring to the action of constantly throwing really terrible pitches.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Kids are watching!
do you want them to learn how to be terrible pitchers?
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
somtimes a negative model is instructive
Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]
STOP MAKING SENSE!
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
It's my job to be logical and make sense
Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]
IK, R??!~!
;-)
Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]
All of you AN hotties keep us boys in line.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
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It’s twisty, which I love."- lynnzgal
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Rec'd for being the bestest album evah!
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by PDXAthleticsfan on Aug 11, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions
agreed.
"I think what baseball projects, and what classical music needs, is the sense that one goes to a live event not to experience greatness, but to experience the possibility of greatness.... Not every game is great but what we go for is the chance that this particular game might be.' —David Lang
by King Richard on Aug 11, 2011 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
what are they gonna do with him???
UGH
Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]
I'm really surprised he was brought straight up to OAK
He is so far from ready. What exactly was the thinking behind putting him in the big leagues instead of at AA or AAA? There are plenty of other options for the A’s bullpen, including Godfrey, if you need a long/extra reliever.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
well that's what I was thinking...but I never trust that I know what I'm talking about!
Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]
You know more than you think
You’re kind of the anti-internet blogger in that way.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
well...thanks
Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]
HOW many of these sub standard performances do we need to endure?
Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]
I was really surprised too
Don’t we have anyone left in the bullpen in Sacramento?
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
hehehe, I agree whole heartedly with you, Nico.
His performance was sad
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
He hasn't been there before...
for the record, im not a big fan of the phrase. Sports are about having fun, and I feel that players should be able to do that to an extnet.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
I fail to see the point
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
not trying to be difficult,
but what point?
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
that he hadn't been there before (sorry that my comment was curt)
it doesn’t matter if you have or haven’t hit a home run for your country’s only team.
I think being happy and stoked is great, but it seemed like he was celebrating for himself, not for the team.
Again, a minor transgression, not a big deal. But fun to talk about
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
Yeah it is fun to talk about.
As a young athlete, we’re kind of taught that a lot of times its more about ourself and not the team. So im not saying i like fully support it, but i at least understand cuz ive been there.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
I think there is little room between our opinions
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
Probably.
just talking. Not disagreeing.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
it seems like it's amplified
cuz he’s Canadian and their big prospect and all, that’s what I saw… the fans went wild, they showed the Jays’ GM was it? going all ecstatic, it was a big deal. Was it his first HR?
"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto
by emperor nobody on Aug 10, 2011 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
i'm pretty sure it was.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
First HR in Toronto
Safe to say the biggest hit of his career.
by Rebuilding Season on Aug 10, 2011 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah it was his first in Toronto
I see the big deal, he’s a big hope for them and he did good, I didn’t feel he showed Breslow up — the big celebrationals are in the dugout, it’s not like he Jeff Leonard Cadillac-flapped it around the bases or anything.
"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto
by emperor nobody on Aug 10, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah.
I think i actually have more of a problem with the Guillen thing, but even that i somewhat understood.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Exactly
He’ll look back on that moment for the rest of his life, and I’m sure he didn’t mean disrespect; he was just really really happy with himself.
by Rebuilding Season on Aug 10, 2011 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah it's just an outflow of emotion
he worked his whole life to get to the point where he could hit a GS in the majors, I have no issue with his exuberance at all.
"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto
by emperor nobody on Aug 10, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Like maybe a dream he had as a child growing up in Canada perhaps...
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
It lasted a long time
I understand it was the first one – but he really went over the top.
by longtimeasfan on Aug 10, 2011 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions
He hit the ball pretty good, but I reasonably sure it stayed in Ontario.
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
Not like if Brandon Allen had it it
Would have landed in British Columbia.
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
Yes, but I don't have to sit and watch them act like idiots.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Would you have cared if we were so far ahead in the game, that it didn't count?
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Yes, actually.
And had it been one of our players I would have been embarrassed for us.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Ok. I'm like Whizkid. I never saw what happened.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
I was more embarrased by Him Who Shall Not Be Named...
Staring at called thirds all game long.
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
true.
but by saying that, you also have the option of turning it off…
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Lawrie's a douche.
Total bro, but whatever that’s baseball. A lot of these guys are alpha bros, but you can’t really hold it against them.
That said… Brett Lawrie has lyrics to “Lose Yourself” by Eminem tattooed on his arm. No seriously, and it’s a big tattoo.
Reminds me of the dudes in college
who would show up to parties at 1:30 am and aggressively stare down every other guy in the room as they scoped out the drunkest girls they could find.
Yep, Brett Lawrie reminds me of a date rapist.
I didn't say
he’d commit date rape. I just said he reminds me of certain dudes who have proclivities towards possibly being date rapists, meaning douchebags.
...based on looking like a partier, having some lame tattoos, and getting overly excited about his first home run in Toronto being a grand slam that gave his team the lead?
Okay.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
Yes, entirely.
Based on guys I’ve been around before. Also, there’s a difference between “looking like a partier” and what I’m describing.
Also, if you get that tattoo, you are by definition a d-bag. No way around it.
I'm not a partier at all and I have no tattoos whatsoever
But this is all coming off as a bunch of childish complaining and judging of someone we wouldn’t even have given a second thought to had he not celebrated a little over-exuberantly in the dugout.
Most people aren’t going to give a crap that he partied and drank – like a ton of people in college – as long as he performs on the field, and they shouldn’t. I’d love to see some of the excuses people make here if it’s one of our players who wasn’t a saint.
Some of you need to get over yourselves.
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by Flashfire on Aug 10, 2011 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+46!
or whatever the number is supposed to be.
Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli
You got it right, MO
BOTTOM LINE!
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Thank you.
Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli
As a guy in his early 20's
I feel I have a decent read on other guys in their early 20’s. And he sets off my douche-radar big time. And I have a very good radar (that, or I’m really judgmental). In fact, I’d bet most people concluding that he’s a douche are fellow dudes between 18-26. We have an inherent sense of these things.
It doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be in MLB. It just means he’s unlikeable.
Yeah, he looks like a douche
And he probably is one. Big deal.
But the rest? He “reminds me of a date rapist?”
Come on.
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by Flashfire on Aug 10, 2011 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I use "date rapist" as an interchangeable term
for douche bag. Brett Lawrie is 19 months younger than I am. I think it’s ok for me to dislike him. I know a lot of guys who take pictures like that and have tats like that, and 100% of them are dudes I hate. I think it’s ok for me to hate on him. I didn’t say it matters on the field, he just reminds me of something I really hate, in a big way. As a guy who partied and drank through college very recently, I have a much different view of 21 year old douche bags than you do.
douche bag
and date rapist aren’t the same thing. So don’t try and “interchange” them.
Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli
by MissOakland on Aug 10, 2011 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
No, if you commit date rape, you're a date rapist
If you’re a douchebag, you aren’t a date rapist.
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Then you must have had some truly screwed up experiences
There are a lot of people I’d call a douchebag, but never once has the thought crossed my mind to liken them to date rapists just because they may be douchebags.
That’s fucked up. Really. Maybe when you’re a little older you’ll understand why.
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No, just on what it encompasses by default
People can be douchebags for a number of reasons including date rape, but being a douchebag doesn’t mean someone would be a date rapist.
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I feel very comfortable
making a blanket statement on dudes who commit date rape. They are hyper-egotistical and narcissistic and “crush it” with their bros. They are typically in their late teens and twenties. So when I see an egotistical dude with tats and testosterone who is around my age, I immediately make sure no woman I care about is near him in any way. That’s just my nature. I think you are much more detached from the world of date rape than I am.
a date rapist can be a douchebag
a douchebag is not always, if ever, a date rapist
Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli
by MissOakland on Aug 10, 2011 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Under my definition of douchebag,
dudes who are douchebags share a LOT in common with the typical profile for date rapists (and there IS a typical profile for date rapists). I re-quote myself:
I didn’t say he’d commit date rape. I just said he reminds me of certain dudes who have proclivities towards possibly being date rapists, meaning douchebags.
I feel very comfortable saying that date rapists have a distinct general profile, whether or not those who share that profile actually would commit such a heinous crime. Which is why I use it as a descriptive term, despite the fact that it may be offensive to some who are not in my demographic.
And yet, the point still remains that while date rapists are douchebags,
douchebags are not necessarily date rapists.
And I really, really wish you’d step away from this because oh my god there are no fucking words for how offensive it is to see overly-douchey-dugout-celebration being equated with date rape. It’s a poor choice of words on your part and it seems to be making light of date rape quite frankly and I just… seriously, man. Seriously. You are not going to win this one, I promise you.
"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."
by Kyli on Aug 10, 2011 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
Finally,
I refer to this classic FJM post. That features this classic paragraph:
Bra. Seriously, bra. Fuck these nerds. For serious. True story, bra — I’m at the game yesterday. I’m wasted. Seriously, bra, I’ve had like eleven brews. I’m there with my boy Donnie — awesome guy. Solid guy. The papers call him the “Laundry Room Rapist.” So Donnie’s like, “Bra, you want another one?” And I’m like, “Shitchyea, dude! I ain’t driving!” And Donnie’s all, “Bra, you are driving, remember?” And I was like, “Ohhhh shit!” And we high-five, right?
Ken Tremendous describes a d-bag, and implies that said d-bag is close with a date rapist. Like it or not, douchebags and date rapists sharing similarities is a bit of a stereotype, so it’s not like I’m some lone Neanderthal with my views.
I think I could have lived my life without reading this
and not missed a thing
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
You know what else overlaps with date rapist?
Being a guy. So you know, you being a guy…
2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too
I think "douche" is a sexist term
and “Date rapist” is just a description of a jerk.
I would rather see Date rapist.
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
Really, there is no connection whatsoever between someone being a douchebag and a date rapist
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I'm hoping that some of the folks reading this won't get the wrong impression of what date rape is compared to what this celebration is
Date rape illegally and immorally violates a woman. It is SERIOUS CRAP. This “kid” was a bit exhuberant. I think it’s perfectly fine to say that you didn’t like his celebration. That’s cool. If you want to think he’s a douchebag, that’s your right.
The analogy should stop there. I personally find it in poor taste and inappropriate and showing a complete lack of understanding.
I’d prefer if we could get back to baseball…heck, even football…or even the Warriors, though I don’t follow hockey.
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
by WhizDad on Aug 10, 2011 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
This actually sums up my take quite well:
He sets my “douche radar” off big time. Outside of that, I have no more really to say about my 5-minute snapshot of a guy who got a big hit.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Dallas Braden shows lots of emotion
He has tattoos.
Is he a douchebag?
"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King
Nope, my radar doesn't go off.
There’s more to reading a douche than tats and emotion. Some of it can’t be explained. It’s a sixth sense we 20-ish guys seem to posses almost exclusively.
You're talking to a 24 year old
"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King
Great!
Hope your radar is as good as mine! That, or you’re just less judgmental than me (which is likely). There’s a reason why sites like Hot Chicks With Douchebags are popular, and that’s because a lot of people just know it when they see it.
I just don't have a lot of evidence against Lawrie
If I hit a grand slam in my first month or so in the majors in front of the home crowd and it gave my team the lead… I’m going to be ecstatic. We just have different douche-dars. Whereas someone like Bryce Harper has had several documented incidents of his douchiness, you’re offering a picture (that hell, could be a parody) and the fact that he’s got Eminem lyrics tattooed on his body as water-tight proof that he’s a douchebag. Choirboy, he may not be, but I don’t see 100% douchebag.
And I don’t visit hot chicks with douchebags.
"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King
I love me some HCWDB
but then, I love to hate. Also, Lawrie’s had just as many make up questions as Harper, maybe more. All of which I knew about before tonight, and influence my opinion of his douchieness.
From here:
Attitude: This is the big knock on Lawrie and one of the reasons (it is said) that the Brewers were willing to trade him… There are all kinds of stories/rumors about Lawrie’s personality and antics
And then of course we have the Deadspin article from a few months back that details this: Here, and take a look at the first comment as well.
What's interesting to me is that I had no idea about any of that
I had never heard he had noted attitude issues or incidents in his past. But what I saw last night pretty much would have made me assume he probably did. People who behave the way he did last night rarely do so in a vacuum. Score one for the “douche radar”.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
That
and I’ve kinda stopped caring about douchebags.
"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King
I was 24 ten years ago
I’m pretty sure what makes someone a douchebag doesn’t change all that much in ten years.
I’m just not as judgmental, that’s for sure.
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But don't you feel honored to know that God is on AN tonight?
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
You should cash in on your extraordinary talents
2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too
Cirque du Soleil?
2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too
ooooo! I like it! We could get a troupe of twelve 20-something mimes to dance around him and maybe some midgets playing pan flutes.
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 10, 2011 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
and a complimentary
guess-the-date-rapist-in-the-audience stunt
2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too
In case you didn't know, a LOT of non-A's fans think Dallas Braden is a huge douchebag
And that’s based on how he generally comes off. We know he’s more intelligent and well-spoken than he seems at first glance, but it took some of us hearing that to know. But the 209 tattoo? The mini-fro he had a few years ago? Some of his general actions? You could definitely see some douchebag in him.
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I agree
I’m not a huge fan of Dallas either. This might be a generational thing though, I was taught about respect growing up, and was spanked when I did something bad. To my knowledge (AND to make a generalization), these two things are no longer a cornerstone of modern parenting, and it shows in the current generation of 15-25 year olds. Have you heard about this rap group Odd Future? They are the poster children of this.
I was gonna say, this Lawrie kid looks as if he doesn't need any more, um, seasoning in the minors.
"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto
Just to re-iterate, we were beaten by this douchebag tonight.
What a tool. No wonder the Brewers traded him.

That seems like a perfectly appropriate picture after seeing how he acted tonight
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
Yeah, kind of like Brett Anderson's picture of him with $1 bills in his hands, and each arm around a girl.
AN considered that just fun.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
classy.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Ok, but come on. This photo looks stupid, granted
But look at Lawrie’s and all the things it includes from the douchebag, frat boy handbook: Shirt off, forty in hand, sideways baseball cap, goofy ass facial expression. You wanna punch that guy.
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
His face is incredibly punchable
UP THE PUCKS!
"This is a good time to come together and raise our middle finger in the air." - Dan Boyle
by TheSoundOfHockey on Aug 10, 2011 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, I find it funny that this is the first return on a google image search for brett anderson baseball:

by Rebuilding Season on Aug 10, 2011 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah i dont wanna be too judgemental
considering we didnt view Brett Anderson’s like that.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
You have to realize that Brett is "Our guy".
Lowrie isn’t
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
oh i totally understand.
just trying to be fair.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
I was being sarcastic. I think both actions are wrong. Brett's is worse, IMO
[ because of innuendo]
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
ah.
yeah. sorry i didnt pick up on the sarcasm
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Sorry, I missplaced the font.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Nice going.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
You'll get old, one of these days.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
We'll see about that!
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
True
You may not live that long, especially if you don’t show respect to the elderly.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Screw old people!
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
cougar hunter?
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
Brett's are not worse because its clearly posed
Lawrie was going to look like that no matter what, that 40 is taped to his hand btw. Dude was raging like a fratboy.
But weren't they just above average girls
Not hot girls? That makes a slight diff. It was comical, because it seemed so weird for BA.
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
Still just a young kid acting out.
I sure don’t teach my boys this is proper.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
I always felt
given the girls’ expressions in BA’s pic and the $1 bills that Brett was trying to make a joke, a parody of these kind of pix.
"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto
by emperor nobody on Aug 10, 2011 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
That's what I'm saying
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
you are way too hung up on this.
give the kid a break, jeez.
Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli
good for you
Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli
Meh
I don’t watch baseball to see high moral class; I watch it to see excellent physical specimens perform athletic feats.
(insert joke about the A’s being such people)
by Rebuilding Season on Aug 10, 2011 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Jogging around the bases yelling like you just won the WS isnt an athletic feat.
I agree with you otherwise though.
awesome to judge someone based off one picture he had as a 19 or 20 year old.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
So we can't judge you until we see a picture of you in like 4 years?
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
heh, he is just being pre-emtive
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
I don't see much of a problem with this picture
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
I just don't understand taping the forty to your hand
That would get your beer warm quick
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
happens when you roommat is F******* sick of you asking where your beer is.
not that I would know or anything
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
Heh
I guess once you get to that point, you couldn’t care less if the beer gets warm
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
perhaps he can not keep his beer in hand elsewise.
Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]
that sounds very diplomatic.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
I have heard that about myself before...
Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]
This IS how I interpreted the picture.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Why is the emphasis on is?
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
Because that was how I saw the pic.
I didn’t see anything wrong with the picture at all.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
I just thought you would emphasize I instead of IS
Cuz I read it like this:

"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
Pretty sure it's a frat party game or whatever
I’ve seen people with beers taped to both hands and they have to finish them.
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Edward 40-hands.
The point is you tape two forties to your hands and have to finish both before you’re allowed to use your hands to do anything. More specifically, before you’re allowed to use your hands to urinate.
And a jerky HR celebration in a meaningless game!
And after searching google, it appears he is a tool. So, judgement is in: Lawrie’s an immature douchebag. Hopefully he can learn what class is and not inspire other people to be douchebags too….
OT - you wanna talk douchbags?
CJ Wilson – I hope we hand it to him on a platter on Fri
Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]
by Berry Jo on Aug 10, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
ME TOO!
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
LAWYERBALL!
Bring up the first witness!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Not trying to be confrontational,
but for someone who doesnt want people to judge them from stuff on the internet, you seem to be doing a lot of that.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
I'm here to talk about baseball and the public figures who get paid millions associated with it.
Because its my right to as a fan. I am not here to talk about my personal opinions on other people who have opinions on baseball. I am also not a public figure, nor do i make the money they do, nor am I involved with baseball….and hey, Lawrie can always, yknow, not do what he did. That would effect my opinion on him.
i dont think that was relevant at all.
and he doesn’t make millions. he makes league minimum. He’s been in the minors for the last 3 years, so he’s been making somewhere between 40k and 80k a year from what i understand.
Also, you completely avoided what i was saying.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
I don't even know what youre saying.
Do you understand that players get millions for signing as bonuses?
Are you saying that because I one time called a player a db for something he did one time, that equals “a lot” now? And also that I researched him on google and I’m not the first person to ever throw around the term with him?
Its like I have a sweater that is my point, but there’s like, one loose thread and instead of looking at the sweater and saying “Oh yeah, I understand thats a sweater” you instead find the loose thread, and pull at it. No one wins and you only make the sweater look shitty, but its still a sweater. That’s what people who pick a pretty inconsequential part of my point to try and rip apart my posts on AN do. You are digging me for a fight here, and I really dont care about talking about myself, so see that road up there? I’m on it.
The vast majority of them don't get much of a bonus at all
The only ones who get a lot of money to sign are the high picks that aren’t graduating college.
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he is lucky he is canadian (drinking age 19)
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
Eh, eh, eh
M-A, M-A-R, M-A-R-K, Ell-is!
by Englishmajor on Aug 10, 2011 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
OH SHIT
a college age kid played a drinking game he’s obviously not going to be a good person1
Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli
oh and it's legal for him.
OH NO
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
OT - how good did USA soccer look in the 2nd half with the younger midfielders and forwards!! awesome!
the artist formerly known as inbillywetrust
IS this with the new coach?
Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]
yes, we played some young up and comers and they looked deadly. now mexico didn't have their best team on the field, but they had chance after chance.
if the ref calls the penalty on the donovan run, we win 2-1. awesome.
the artist formerly known as inbillywetrust
I did not see it.....what game was this?
Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]
Oh.....some of those games have been tough in the past.
how did I not know about this!?? OH……this is a BASEBALL site, huh.
Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]
SOOO much better.
Ref sucked, but that was great.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
again, usa screwed by fifa. the red card at the end of the game on the robbie rogers run? c'mon. that was bs.
the artist formerly known as inbillywetrust
you mean yellow?
yeah there was some real bs. But Shea really impressed me, despite his stupid hair, and agudelo looked good.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
yeah it really should have been.
im shocked it wasnt. and that we didnt get at least one PK
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
the first one was okay to play on. the donovan run was a clear PK
the artist formerly known as inbillywetrust
yep.
oh well. FIFA sucks.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
The ref was just awful
Donovan even said that the ref wasn’t up for the game. Giving a yellow card on the play on Rogers really was ridiculous – that was about as clear a red card as there can be.
by longtimeasfan on Aug 10, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
seriously.
btw… you know youre handle almost reads as long time ass fan?
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Are you talking to
the eas fan named Tim who is well endowed?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
never thought of that
you’re right it almost does – probably wouldn’t really work very well on any site other than an A’s site.
by longtimeasfan on Aug 10, 2011 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
it's not a bad thing, fwiw.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Brek Shea, Agudelo, Donaven, Dempsey, and Stuart Holden all need to see the field together.
On another note, Michael Bradley needs to never be an attacking Mid ever again. Castillo, should probably quit playing soccer. And I thought Ricardo Clark was, rightfully, gone forever.
by Pop N' Locktapus on Aug 10, 2011 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
bring back davies too. i liked rogers speed. no more buddle. please. seriously.
the artist formerly known as inbillywetrust
heh.
davies would be a nice addition. rogers was fun to watch.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
always.
i love speed. May not be the most necessary, but it sure is fun to watch.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
creates chances, which this team needs. gives donovan guys to pass to.
the artist formerly known as inbillywetrust
i cant wait for the day we're actually good at soccer.
now that im really starting to get into it.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
I'm really excited for Arsenal to start playing again.
I think they might be exciting this year.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
I'd love to see us also have a precision passing game....
I am amazed at this when I see Spain playing.
Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]
Seriously.
Spain is just soo good.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
umm hmm....my dtr LOVES them and she is a good judge.
Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]
our game is more open field, slashing runs and through balls. that's why i covet speed.
remember the core of the spain team plays together as a club team too. they get more practice together than any other team. it’s a style they can play. the us cannot, yet.
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Something like 6 starters on the national team is on Barca.
They have ridiculous chemistry.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
indeed. club soccer is way better than national team soccer, so that's their big leg up.
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definitely.
my plan would have the MLS just serve as like a minor league system for the EPL and La Liga, and have like two or 3 teams that play a lot of the americans together.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Well hopefully it would bring the level of play up.
I’m talking like real partnership with those leagues. I think it could be mutually beneficial.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Finally, a discussion I can sink my teeth into here: Auto racing!
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
You're probably being sarcastic, but I really could sink my teeth into an auto racing discussion.
Especially NASCAR.
by LoneStranger on Aug 10, 2011 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
A) I was and B) you're on but can we talk about the Acura race in Sonoma this month instead?
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
I'm not a big open-wheeler, but I've sorta paid more attention the past couple years.
I was debating going to check out the Indy cars at Sonoma. I have no idea if I have scheduling conflicts though.
by LoneStranger on Aug 10, 2011 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Open wheelers are fun
But one of the support races is Acuras versus Camaros and Mustangs…and I own an Acura (albeit a 2004) so I have to root for them!
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
Ooh, sounds like fun.
I’d have to root for the Mustangs though.
by LoneStranger on Aug 10, 2011 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
WRONG ANSWER
Though I believe they’re leading in the series. Odd pairing V8s against V6s.
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
You mean like...
The Yankees, RedSox, and Phillies? Sounds about right.
by Colorado Fan on Aug 11, 2011 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Not a Rogers fan, but I like Davies.
Also, would like to see Teal Bunbury get a call.
by Pop N' Locktapus on Aug 10, 2011 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
one guy i follow on twitter loves Buddle apparently.
Those are safe guys, like the Conor Jackson type i feel.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
no love for those two. maybe bench guys, but not starters
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yeah, im fine with that.
agudelo really is our future at forward, if we have one. he needs to see as much action as possible.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Agreed about Buddle.
He’s just not very good. I also really want to see them go with 2 strikers. I would mind seeing Agudelo and Dempset, with Donovan, Holden, Torres and maybe Shea or Bradley in midfield.
by longtimeasfan on Aug 10, 2011 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions
That wouldnt be awful.
Torres hasnt impressed me too much.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
I thought he was good tonight
in the first half, one of the few who impressed me. He just didn’t really have anyone to pass or cross to.
by longtimeasfan on Aug 10, 2011 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I didnt get to watch the first half unfortunately.
But he did make a few nice plays later in the second.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
that's the problem. we have too many black holes on the team for the good guys to flourish. sub in davies, rogers, shea, dempsey and i think you'll see bradley/donovan/torres become monsters.
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Its why I get so frustrated
every time they play just one guy up – it just doesn’t work with this team. Especially when its someone like Buddle up front.
by longtimeasfan on Aug 10, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
that's why i'm so excited. i finally see possibilities. and there is a side benefit to our defense from being able to score.
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I'll also add Chander to that list of players I want on the field.
by Pop N' Locktapus on Aug 10, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
YUP
Looking forward to seeing Chandler and Lichaj at Right Back and Left Back.
by longtimeasfan on Aug 10, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Can i get some info on those guys?
never really heard of them
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
They are both Defenders
Chandler generally plays Right Back – he’s an 18 year old from Germany – father was in military I believe so he is eligible to play for US. He played in some games in the Spring and in my opinion was really impressive – he gets forward very well – but had a long season and has been a bit injured.
Lichaj is also fairly young, and can play RB or LB – I thought he was impressive in the Gold Cup – again got forward very well and crossed the ball in well. Its good to have these guys coming up as Cherundolo, Bocanegra, and Gooch are aging.
by longtimeasfan on Aug 10, 2011 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Is he the guy that was in that horrible accident?
Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]
Davies?
yeah. car accident, right?
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
what's going on with onyewu? is he basically done at this point?
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last time i heard, it was something like that.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
I did not realize he was playing again.
Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]
he's playing in mls again. haven't heard whether he's at full strength and speed yet.
he and donovan have worked well together in the past.
the artist formerly known as inbillywetrust
IIRC - he was awesome.
Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]
awesome is a big word, but he was clearly one of our better attackers before he got hurt.
a guy like dempsey would do better if we had multiple guys that required defensive attention too.
the artist formerly known as inbillywetrust
Where was dempsey tonight?
And yeah Davies just is a nice fit on the team.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Premiership starts this weekend
I think Klinsman probably decidied would be better for him to stay in England and be prepared for the start of the season. Same with Lichaj I think whose trying to get in at Aston Villa. For Dempsey – I think Klinsmann knows what he has in him and was ok keeping him off this time. i’m sure he’ll be in the September games.
by longtimeasfan on Aug 10, 2011 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
ok thanks
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
this sub thread is a good reason for the powers that be to open a ct thread
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
FOR REALS
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
Just had to ask some questions....sorry to hijack the BB talk!
Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]
i thought about it,
glad you started.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
I don't blame you I would be excited too
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
yep.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
so you're saying we will never know when we are gonna cash in......
Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]
...

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Aug 10, 2011 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
big picture is big.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
the img-height-nazi must be having a day off
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I didn't think it would be readable at 200 or whatever the "rule" is.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
You're right
The black part might have become illegible
2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too
Do we have a lounge yet?
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
lulz
astros just flubbed the fake to third go to first move. Whiz’s new first place team scored a run on the play
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
So many Brett Lawrie comments above
I agree with all who think he is a tool. I remember when he was traded and reading an article about him, I immediately couldn’t control my judgments. Having grown up in a college town (SLO) I was able to do a social study throughout my life, and while some tools are nice and just misguided, Brett Lawrie seems to be toolish and proud. Here is the link.
My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time
by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Aug 10, 2011 9:37 PM PDT reply actions
Although, the dugout celebration didn't bother me at all.
My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time
by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Aug 10, 2011 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Your soup strainer is tickling deliciously near the privates of thousands of ribald thrillseekers.
Oh wait… you’re on a BART ticket?
So that’s NOT you on the O’Farrell Theater marquee and booth ticket pack?
This is the lounge, right?
"It's decent.
It’s twisty, which I love."- lynnzgal
by Gaijin_Suketto on Aug 10, 2011 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
That's great!
How fun LS! Thanks for the pointer!
I checked Sacramento
Um, not much in the way of a bullpen. As the pastor said in Blazing Saddles: You’re on your own kid.
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
It's a nice bullpen... well constructed and easily visible to fans on the berm.
Too bad nobody with any talent is currently sitting in it.
"It's decent.
It’s twisty, which I love."- lynnzgal
by Gaijin_Suketto on Aug 10, 2011 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, they seem to think that high WHIP is a good thing
Right above the thigh perhaps…
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
Blatant attempt to out do The WhizKid in FanPost comments
Take the poll on my fanpost about a “6 man rotation”. Vote early and vote often!
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
Wow
Some game. Gio was OK, but Breslow completely failed, and the runs were put on Gio’s line. It might be one of the worst games we’ve played on this road trip; then again, some have been so bad…..
I can't consider Gio's performance OK in any way, shape or form
He threw about 110 pitches and recorded 15 outs. Walked 5 on top of that. Unacceptable to require your bullpen to be used so early.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
Wasn't there some issue in the first that the ump kinda blew that caused him to have to throw more?
I wasn’t paying that much attention, but I thought I heard the announcers say that a 3-0 count should have been strike 3.
by LoneStranger on Aug 11, 2011 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions
That he only gave up one run in the 1st 5 innings was lucky
He was all over the place and giving up a lot of fly balls.
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 11, 2011 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions
It seems to me, that since he was lit up by the Rangers, ( they refused to swing at his curve in the dirt),
he has gotten away from throwing it as much. He needs to get back to using it more.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
His Curve Is Great
It helped him be at the top of his game. It would be a bit like Zito giving up his curve when he was working on a Cy Young campaign.
Young players acting way out of line?
Perhaps better look here (no Pams)
2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too
to be fair, watching from the CF angle on milb.com
that pitch was WAY outside…
"I think what baseball projects, and what classical music needs, is the sense that one goes to a live event not to experience greatness, but to experience the possibility of greatness.... Not every game is great but what we go for is the chance that this particular game might be.' —David Lang
by King Richard on Aug 11, 2011 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Back to the Game
Why was Breslow called upon the pitch to Hill, Arencibia, LAWRIE, Davis, and Escobar (and then Bautista)… FIVE consecutive RH Batters??? Doesn’t it seems like a time to use one of our RHP? We’ve argued managers decisions a lot this year. This has to be at the top of the list, no?
Anyone have the Pitches Gio threw in the sixth inning? Was Gio getting squeezed?
Late.
IIRC, Breslow's splits are reversed
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 11, 2011 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
This was the first game where the loss of Ziggy was truly felt
Bases loaded, no outs, 3-1 lead too early for Balfour/Bailey, and 5 RH batters due up. If we keep the damage to 1 run we probably win, and Ziggy would have had a good chance to do that.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Yeah
Because when professional athletes do not perform to the bloggers’ likings, they “choke”.
2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too
I demand perfection!
Why should the players be different than the Umpires?
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
I think we played worse games in that freakin Seattle series.
Yesterday we were playing with fire with all the baserunners. We got burned hard. (And lost!)
by player20 on Aug 11, 2011 8:50 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
It's not about how well they played
I have an issue with the (over)use of word choke, as it implies that players had their diapers full. It accuses them of being unable to perform under pressure, whereas the ones we accuse of it have succeeded in such situations thousands times more then those who write about them. Every time a pitcher faces a batter, one of them will win. But that’s not because the other one has “choked”.
2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too
by elcroata on Aug 11, 2011 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
Someone must come out on top in every play. Most of the time, the other guy just beats you. If he came in and threw the pitch into the stands.. that is choking. This isn’t in that category.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
I only said that because someone said yesterday's game was the worst on the road trip.
I just think the Seattle games are worse only because I expected the A’s to play a lot better than they did. You can’t give a lineup like Toronto extra opportunities.
by player20 on Aug 11, 2011 9:07 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
It's Not About What About What I Want
What should I have said. If Ziegler had gone out there, he would have had one mission: to prevent the Jays from scoring. Difficult, but his job isn’t easy. If he had had gone out there and given up a grand slam, would that have been a job well done? No. Though, perhaps choke is too harsh a word.
I mean, he’s messed up before. Take the Tampa Bay game, where he came out and struggled with his control to mess up big time. What would you call that? What would you call Jeremy Giambi’s failure to slide in the ALDS (apart from stupid)?
I watched the replay about 40 times. I'm not convinced Posada actually tagged Giambi.
by player20 on Aug 11, 2011 8:56 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Why so obnoxious the past two weeks?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Not you, elcroata
Seems like he’s gone from being really pleasant for years, to having a bee in his bonnet and a snarky comment to all about everything, the last couple weeks. Very odd.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Tired from the dog-days of summer?
This year seems to be dragging on me as well.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Woof.
Certainly the season hasn’t put any of us in a terrific mood! Thank God Brandon Allen is coming to save the franchise. Or should I say, thank Allen that He’s coming?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Seems the same to me
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 11, 2011 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
yes
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 11, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Someone made a statement I disagree with
I responded in a sarcastic manner. I then further explained why my opinion differs.
What part of it makes me odiously or disgustingly objectionable : highly offensive ? The fact that I have a differing opinion? The fact that I acted on it and wrote a response? Or (probably) that my response was written in sarcastic font?
So is use of sarcasm a sin for which the only justly punishment is a personal insult?
I also find it very interesting that out of all the opportunities that presented themselves in this thread, you felt that my comment was the one that needed lecturing on.
2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too
Hey, not trying to start a fight
Just noticing a weird pattern the last couple weeks from someone who has been utterly awesome for years. Hope you’re ok.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
dan, you graduated with a degree in Chemical Engineering, correct?
What field/ industry do you plan on going into? I’m not trying to get too personal, just wondering…
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Ok. Is there something special you want to accomplish?
Like a low cost fuel alternative? Do you hope to remain in California? I just don’t know much about the field in general.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Cool. Good luck with your research.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
[AN will be expecting inside investment tips when you get close to THE breakthough]
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Probably not.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
So
you have now called me pathetic and obnoxious in the span of, what, 40 hours? If you are preparing ground to ask me out for a dinner, I think you are doing it wrong.
2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too
I was thinking lunch.
I’m at a place in my life where I can’t really commit to dinner.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Great observation, Nico
It was a good move for us, but we have to expect the loss of Ziggy to hurt us in the short-term.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Hopefully, Not Long Term
If Allen and Norberto struggle, while Ziegler pitches well, then that trade would not have gone well.
I don't see it that way.
BB must do something to address our offensive problems. Just because they may not work out, doesn’t mean it is a bad move. Sitting on his hands, bemoaning the stadium situation would be bad.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Well, Yeah
It is a move that looks good, and a move that needed to be made. We need offense. Still, it would be nice to see results.
I expect Ziegler to pitch well. He's going to the NL! He should have an advantage.
Now hitters coming from the NL to the AL? They usually struggle.
by player20 on Aug 11, 2011 9:15 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
In honor of "Col." Cobb, Nico, I propose "General" as Brad Mills' nickname.
by player20 on Aug 11, 2011 8:51 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Versus Specific Moscoso.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Ops, I made a boo-boo.
I thought you were talking about the Brad Mills, manager of the Astros. Raised in Exeter, and lives in Visalia.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
How about that Bryce Harper eh?
To be 18 and act like you can do this to a grown up man, is thoroughly disrespectful. I don’t think Harper’s parents ever gave him a spanking when he was bad growing up, because he clearly has no idea what respect is. The way he got in the umps face made my blood boil. You can tell this kid has the most ridiculous sense of entitlement. He’s going to be the most hated player since Bonds if he keeps this up.
He'll be the baseball equivalent of LeBron James
which is a sad thing.
Q: Who is playing you in the movie about the ESPN book? I think it should be Adam Sandler — you both peaked 12 years ago.
— Timmy, Winchester, MA
- Simmons Mailbag, 8/5/11
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 11, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions
He'll get his humble pie, I'm sure
As Lawrie may, today.
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 11, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions
meh, people are what they are.
Sweeney is considered by some as being too mellow, and not showing enough fire. Pete Rose was 10X as bad as Lowrie, yet many want him in the HOF. I don’t, because of his behavior. This all boils down to personal preference.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
All things being equal, I'd rather have a mellow player than a fired up one
That said, Rose has few equals and should be in the HOF, no questions asked.
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 11, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree about liking mellow player more.
The rap on them is that they don’t play with enough intensity. I think they do, they just don’t show it.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
I don't think Rose is an apt example though
Because he only got more in-your-face as he got older/more apparent he was a star. As a rookie he wasn’t trying to fight everyone and generally wasn’t as corny as Lawrie was the other night, it was only when the 70s started that Rose became the celebrity and got more hot headed….which also may also have something to do with the prevalence of cocaine in the 70s with baseball players (watch the documentary about Bill Lee to see how loose it was back then).
Did I see we batted around twice in one inning todaY??
Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]
While I agree that the kid has some growing up to do,
I disagree with your premise that giving a spanking =/= teaching respect. There are plenty of other ways to go about it.
Don't you realise you'll find next monday or next Tuesday/Your golden shoes day
by PDXAthleticsfan on Aug 11, 2011 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, its how I learned it.
I know there are other, arguably better ways, but when I was a 7 year old brat and got in the face of someone older than me and showed disrespect, my dad gave me a few across the butt and even though I cried, I learned my lesson and also, no permanent (or even semi-permanent, the red marks went away after an hour or so) was done. But I didn’t want to experience that pain again, so I didn’t disrespect my elders.
I know my generation was one of the last ones where that was common, and most stopped because “teaching violence” but guess what, humans are violent and need violence to teach them a lesson. Even in my 20s when I got in fights in bars or whatever and have gotten my butt kicked, there really was that moment when on the way home I thought “You know what, I kind of did cross a line there, I kind of deserved that” (comedian Bill Burr has a bit about this too) We are now learning that children act like animals if they don’t have to suffer any consequences for their actions. Sweeping generalization, but the current younger generation of kids dont respect anything or anyone, and Harper is a shining example.
Meh...
That is a sweeping generalization, and for every Harper, there are many who aren’t brought up with a sense of entitlement. We just notice the ones that act as such. I can’t name one A’s prospect or youngster that seems to have the same attitude.
Don't you realise you'll find next monday or next Tuesday/Your golden shoes day
by PDXAthleticsfan on Aug 11, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
{Ian Krol}
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
OK, so one...
Don't you realise you'll find next monday or next Tuesday/Your golden shoes day
by PDXAthleticsfan on Aug 11, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Sadly,
as much I as wish and hope the youth wouldn’t be dbags, they really are, more often than not. Hey, I hope they prove me wrong. But wow, it hasn’t been this bad before….this experiment of punishing kids “with love” that has become the norm since the 90s, has been a failure. We ended up raising an entire generation of entitled, vapid, disrespectful people. Its a bad scene. Lets hope it gets better, but it probably wont.
Ever seen the film Idiocracy before? It is truly the future.
I'm going to leave it at agreeing at disagreeing
because I disagree.
Don't you realise you'll find next monday or next Tuesday/Your golden shoes day
by PDXAthleticsfan on Aug 11, 2011 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm all for respect, but the elders sometimes blow it all out of proportion.
For example,
“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”
This quote is attributed to Socrates. Whether or not he actually said it doesn’t matter. Parents have been concerned about the wild youth for a LONG time.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Heh. Plato must have been a handful.
Don't you realise you'll find next monday or next Tuesday/Your golden shoes day
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