How Brandon Allen Will Save The Franchise
by Nico on Aug 1, 2011 9:00 AM PDT
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He won't, but he might be quite good.
Allen appears to be a lot like Chris Carter, only he can play some defense and his trials in the big leagues have not reminded people of a laid-back deer going, "Hey, headlights ... cool, man." In this morning's SF Chronicle, Billy Beane is cited as indicating that Allen will report to Sacramento but will be in the big leagues "very soon". Allen is a 1Bman that Beane notes can also play in the COF, bringing up the question of where Allen will play in Oakland and whose job he will take.
First of all, I believe the writing is on the wall that Daric Barton's future with Oakland is about as bright as most players' who spar with the team through the press. In the one week since Barton made disparaging claims about the A's medical staff and Beane rebutted sharply that Barton had not cooperated with trainers' attempts to help him, the A's have tried to acquire 1Bman Lars Anderson and then acquired Allen, whose primary position is 1B.
Coincidence? Partly. It was trading deadline week and whatever the reason Barton has had a terrible season that calls into question how set the A's are at 1B going forward. But nothing gets you out of Oakland faster than attacking the team through the press.
Meanwhile, COF is starting to look a little better each day with Willingham reiterating his openness to staying in Oakland beyond 2012 and Michael Taylor finally reverting back close to his form of 2-3 years ago. However, Willingham may or may not return and even if he does his best position right now -- and most certainly going forward into his mid-30s -- is DH.
The same is true of Chris Carter and then some. The A's may finally have come to terms with the fact that Carter may or may not be able to mash big league pitching, but he most certainly can't field it anywhere. Carter's only position is DH, and he has struggled enough with the "H" part that his status even there is uncertain.
So here's one formula the A's could follow. They could try to re-sign both Willingham and Coco Crisp, letting David DeJesus go, but slide Willingham into DH duty a lot of the time. They could put Allen at 1B, bring up Taylor, keep Carter at AAA to prove himself and slide in at DH when ready, and roll with this lineup out of spring training:
Weeks - 2B
Crisp - CF
Allen - 1B
Willingham - DH
Sweeney - RF
Taylor - LF
Sizemore - 3B
Suzuki - C
Pennington - SS
Against LHPs, Willingham moves to LF with Sweeney on the bench to come in for late inning defense, and a guy who can hit LHPs well moves into the DH slot. Perhaps that's Conor Jackson, perhaps it's Carter at some point, perhaps it's a "Marcus Thames" type (also known as "the Bobby Kielty role") that is part of your bench.
If Taylor busts but Carter rakes, you have the chance to play Wilingham in LF full time, call up and DH Carter, so at least there are fallback options. Basically, you need one of Taylor or Carter to be good, but not both -- though Taylor busting does mean more Willingham in the OF.
Anyway, just throwing it out there to suggest that the above lineup doesn't look too bad. It would, of course, look better behind Gio, Cahill, and Brett Anderson, but that's for another time. The point is: Brandon Allen shall save our franchise. Especially if the other 24 guys are really good.
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THE A'S WIN THE PENNANT! THE A"S WIN THE PENNANT!!
By the way, you spelled Kouzmanoff wrong.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
That lineup would look a whole lot better without Ryan Sweeney in it.
So, can Allen play the OF in the sort of way that Willingham can play it, or can he actually play it?
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
He made a sweet running catch one time
so frankly he’s better than Carter already.
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My standards are not high.
I’m trying to will anybody and everybody in the A’s farm system who can hit into a corner outfield position. Hell, Barton should even be taking fly balls.
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*cough*THIRDBASE*cough*
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That would be fine with me.
I think the A’s are going to throw him away in an offseason trade, though.
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sad.
but probably correct.
sigh.
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You guys don't think Barton's a candidate for release/DFA?
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by EddieVegas_NRAF on Aug 1, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
He shouldn't be.
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No. No reason to,
as he still has options. He’ll languish at AAA before he’s released or DFA.
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No way.
Even if he’s sold for pennies on the dollar (as would be the case if he was sold now), he’s still worth something.
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A bag of balls
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...called strikes, much to Daric's dismay.
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I know this is directed towards Nico, but
I think the question should be when they play in the future. I expect them to be ready in 2013, which allows plenty of time to tweak the roster to find room for them.
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I certainly can agree with this.
I don’t see them on the roster coming out of ST, however. With injuries and such, they will probably get a shot next year.
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I'm assuming if Green makes it, it will be in CF
since 2B is taken and SS is no longer his position (and if the A’s thought he could make it there they wouldn’t have moved him off of SS).
Choice will probably wind up in RF, though at the moment he seems to be succeeding in CF (at least I haven’t heard otherwise). If Choice thrives in CF, and Green succeeds, I think you can always trade Green. Choice as a CF could be a true star.
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I drool even more when it becomes
Weeks
Green
Choice
Carter
Allen
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I was just going to add Allen
And more drooling:
Weeks
Green
Choice
Carter
Allen
Taylor
Sizemore
Suzuki
Pennington
Wait'll you see my real proposed plan for the off-season
You’ll drool in places we can’t talk about.
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I already do.
Remember, I ticked off the Good Witch yesterday.
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You guys keep misspelling K-o-u-z!
hehehe
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Add Allen,
dump Suzuki. It’s Recker/Donaldson time, mates.
by Slip n Slide on Aug 1, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
When you say drool I hope your talking about opposing pitchers looking at that lineup
Weeks is the only hitter a playoff team would want..everyone else would be bench players.
I hope you drool about K's
because a 3-4-5 of Choice-Carter-Allen could easily strike out 550 times a season.
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OMG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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I know, and I've never posted a non-ironinc "Strickouts!!11!" comment
but all of those guys swing and miss a lot. My main worry is that at least one of them, and probably two, will have low enough OBAs as a result that he won’t be a good middle-of-the-order hitter.
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Jack Cust is
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
walks too much
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
You have more chance of winning the lottery than Jack Cust
coming back.
No place for him at the moment
Green probably is a 100 K/year guy too
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more sluggers needed
I’m convinced that the best potential sluggers are football tight ends. Frank Thomas and Matt Holliday are a few for starters. Tight ends are typically big and athletic with tons of raw power. I wonder if there have been any studies done on the cross over from tight end to 1b? Too bad we can’t convince the big guys to play baseball instead of futbol americano.
Falcon Punch!
Those tights ends look good in jeans
…So we’re not interested
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I don't see green playing a day for the A's
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yeah, I mean if the A's catch ahuge break and
are in contention in the next two years he seems like the guy to move.
I don’t know why he is a legitimate centerfielder when he hasn;t played there.
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He's the only legitimate CF in the system AFAIK
I would think they would keep him
Jai doesn’t count btw
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How is he a legitimate CF, when he has been there all of 2 months
by theblackpearl on Aug 1, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
He's legitimate b/c he's expected to hit his weight in the MLB
I’m assuming that as a failed SS, he’d be able to handle the position
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I'm not sure that's a fair assumption
The positions require totally different skills. Maybe he’ll be terrible at tracking a ball hit directly overhead.
Also, his bat is hardly a sure thing. He doesn’t have great strike-zone command, and may not hit with much power in the majors.
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You just explained why he's a prospect and not a MLB player right now
The question really is: who’s a better bet than Green to play in CF?
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No, there are differences among prospects
He has had significant holes in his hitting, and he’s about to play a difficult position he’s never played before. I don’t think your assumption that a mediocre SS can handle major-league CF is valid. He could definitely fail in CF, and there’s not much reason to think his bat will be good enough for COF.
Even if he does well in CF, his bat might kind of crap out if he can’t command the strike zone better than he’s done so far. Overall, he’s a college draftee who has to do more than just follow a nice level-by-level progression (never a sure thing, either, of course) to get to the majors.
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Choice, until he proves otherwise?
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Yeah.
My instinct tells me Green won’t be a very good defensive CF. Choice seems like a better bet to me.
Scouts don't seem to think Choice will cut it at CF
Honestly, I hope you’re right. Choice playing an averagish CF makes him a potentially great player.
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Why does it seem like no system today
Can produce a passable CF, 3B or C? Is the defense so bad in the minor leagues that most of them are destined to be first basemen or corner outfielders?
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Maybe it's just the A's system, then?
It seems like almost every time AN posters talk about players at those positions, they’re going to be moved.
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Also, we do have plenty of guys
in the farm who can handle the positions defensively. They just don’t hit well enough to be real MLB prospects.
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It's the normal progression
Just about every major leaguer was an SS/1SP in highshool. As they move up the ranks the competition for the upper defensive positions get tougher and guys move down the defensive spectrum.
This is why scouts love athletic players who play the hard positions. They have more chances to make it. If their fielding develops then they can make it. If their hitting develops then they can make it.
For example, a college 1B has to succeed with his bat only so it has to be really special for anyone to be interested.
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I've never quite been clear on why not
He seems to be really fast, and a lack of speed is one of the biggest considerations for why someone might not cut it in CF but might be fine in COF. I wonder what scouts feel will cause him to lack the skills to stick in CF.
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Perhaps because his body type will lend itself to getting bigger as he ages
leading to losing a step
That’s about the only thing I can think of.
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IIRC, it's his body.
He’s already got huge legs, and they expect him to get bigger. They think he’ll grow himself off the position. For now, I see no reason to move him, though.
Interesting.
Sounds more like he could be a CFer for a few years and then shift over to RF, which is really no prob.
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Supposedly he doesn't react well to the ball
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I guess you can hide that better in the COF
But it’s still kind of fundamental aspect of being an OFer. If you can’t do it, you can’t really be good anywhere.
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The speed can make up for bad routes
But maybe not to the point that you would be good enough in CF
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Are we still talking about Rajai Davis?
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Worked for Byrnsie!
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HAHA
My brother was talking about how he misses Byrnes (he’s 16), reasoning that because he made all those great diving catches, he was a great OFer. I told him that BECAUSE he had to make all of those great diving catches, he was a horrible OFer.
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I liked Byrnes. He didn't take shit too seriously and had fun.
I didn’t like him after he left and turned into a Giants hack and basically turned his back on the A’s, even though he would use A’s teammates as on air guests all the time.
Sorta like FP Santangelo.
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In Byrnesie's defense,
he was born and raised in Giants territory (Peninsula), and he lives there again now.
Not so unusual for a player who played with several teams to return to the one that’s local to his original home.
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Also
The link dwishinsky posted to this tater that Allen hit earlier this year bears reposting. That’s one hell of a tater.
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I posted it first! :-X
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Duly noted.
It’s still fun to watch. Like over and over again. Have to wonder if it was fair, though.
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it was 400 feet over the foul pole.
It was fair. The umpire was afraid to call it foul, due to fear that Allen would crush him like a bug.
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Height doesn't really matter
The foul pole continues up, invisibly, to an infinite height. All that matters is which side of this invisible line the ball is on when it passes the pole.
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Brandon Allen hit a ball over the foul pole that reaches to an infinite height.
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It never actually went over the pole
It approached asymptotically until it reached near earth orbit and became a part of the space junk that orbits the earth.
The ump admitted he’d never seen anything like it and declared the “Allen Rule” that any struck ball that never returns to earth is a home run.
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Holy y=1/x!!!!!
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AWW YEAH.
Also, breaking news, and it’s true because I’m putting it in Block Quotes.
Brandon Allen’s home run of Yovani Gallardo finally landed. This morning.
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Hit Tracker Online has that HR at 457 ft.
Our longest this year is Josh Willingham’s second deck 446 a few weeks ago.
is it really?
HA! unreal. didnt know that
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Yeah, it's insane.
He first extrapolates out the distance, based on how far the ball would have traveled if there wasn’t any seats in the way. Then, he adjusts it for atmospherics, based on temperature and humidity and air pressure and stuff. Crazy.
It is pretty impressive
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His wife is an underwear model
It’s also possible that I just made that up
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Yeah
I figured the no seats aspect was simple. I didn’t know he takes into account the other crap. Wonder what Canseco’s 89 HR in Toronto wouldve been
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Longest homerun I've seen since Frankie T!
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TOO LATE. YOU HAVE THAT REPUTATION NOW, GUY.
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What is so impressive is the power that he generated with accompanying bat speed
aside from the fact he also HIT THE LIVING PISS OUT OF THE BALL.
Seriously though, that bat just whipped right through the zone. I think I have a new A’s man crush.
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people keep mentioning bat speed
I wish I knew how to measure that
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His swing looked pretty OK on that bomb he hit.
but I did read somewhere that he has trouble catching up to high fastballs.
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no doubt he looked good on that pitch
it wasn;t meant as a comment to darooster, but just in general. People talk about bat speed a lot and I have yet to see any numbers. I would like to.
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He’s seen all he needs to see!
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Supposedly you can measure it with a radar like a pitch
I wish that info was made public
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Rangers offer for bailey
Of course, clubs value players differently; beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The Rangers, according to one source, offered Beane a strong package for closer Andrew Bailey, one believed to include Class AA lefty Robbie Erlin, Class AA righty Joe Weiland and Class A shortstop Leury Garcia.
Erlin and Weiland are the two pitchers whom the Rangers traded to the Padres for right-handed setup man Mike Adams.
Bailey is under club control through 2014. Whatever the Rangers’ offer was, Beane thought it was not sufficient enough.
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If they exchanged Garcia
for Sardinas or Odor…
This is a decent baseline to start working on a deal…
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No Profar, no deal.
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Or Perez.
Martin Perez needs to not be a Ranger. Glad we didn’t do that deal though Bailey is worth way more than a tiny SS who cant hit over Adams. He’s worth Profar. Or Perez.
There's no way I would have traded Profar or Perez for a reliever. If we're going to wait
for someone to trade a B+/A- prospect for Bailey, we’ll probably be waiting a very long time, unless some GM is really dumb.
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Unfortunately they have no B+/A- prospects
Unless you’re counting Jonathan Singleton, who’s not nearly the prospect that either Perez or Profar are
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Then, we don't trade Bailey
and I’m ok with that. I wouldn’t trade him just to trade him, especially within the division. So, unless the Rangers were willing to overpay then I’m glad we didn’t do it.
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What good is a good closer on a bad team?
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I'd see your point if he wasn't team-controlled for a while
That’s worth a good deal, too.
Isn’t Mike Adams on a one-year deal that was signed to avoid arbitration?
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He's under control thru 2012
The fact that Beane didn’t trade Bailey for that package plus the recent college heavy draft, plus the trades for Anderson and Allen make me think he’s trying to win in 2012. I admire his moxie and spunk, but…..
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
How will he fill the gap left by Brett Anderson's injury?
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Moxie and spunk?
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Is Moxie the left-hander?
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LOVE!
“What good is a good closer on a bad team?” is in my baseball ten commandments equivalent
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But that's true for any player, not only closers
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You think so? It's the same to not trade a starting SS for prospects as
to not trade a closer? I think it’s much harder to make a closer a core member of a rebuilding process.
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I am not talking about rebuilding
just about the statement itself.
If a team sucks, a good player at any single position is not really worth much.
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I mostly agree, but one difference is that "closer",
unlike say “center-fielder”, is defined by a certain situation which may or may not come up in a game. And if the team is bad, that situation will come up less often.
(I suppose by that logic you could also say a closer is useless on a really really awesome team, since they’ll rarely be less than three runs behind.)
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Even the bad teams win 60-70 (mostly contested) games
and closers top around 70 appearances
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While it is true for any team
I think it is more true of closers being a “luxury”. A good first baseman lets say is someone you hang onto and build around. You don’t start your building a team around a shutdown closer
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I don't really disagree but...
Bailey would have probably saved a lot of those games Fuentes blew early in the year…and we would be a bit closer to the top of the division. And if Bailey was still out, we’d be quite a bit further out.
Check that
Fuentes saved the majority of his actual save situations early in the year. He was bad in the tied, non-save spots.
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Nice catch
Sure seemed like more but looking back you are right.
And while Bailey would have played in some or most of those tie games, the offense would not have scored for him so probably same result as Fuentes.
I would have taken that package in a heartbeat
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Me too.
I’ve said this before, but while Profar would be awesomely awesome, I’d be just as happy to take some Texas pitching prospects instead. It’s already a top 10 pitching staff. If it gets much better it’ll pretty terrifying. Glad to see somebody took some of them though.
Only Garcia is the supposed difference between Bailey and Adams? I'm glad we said, "Fuck you" and hung up.
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I'm sure Billy felt like he could do better during the off-season
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that's my impression too.
If someone goes to him asking about Bailey, he can say “Mike Adams” got _, so I need this much more. Leury Garcia is less than the “this much more.”
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Don't forget Grieve/Long/Stairs
That was a playoff outfield, to boot.
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Who's at 1b?
I wouldnt mind a lesser deal this offseason again for lars anderson
WRONG ANSWER
Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli
I'd rather he played.
Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli
(Look at the "duh", and you will see the sarcasm, MO)
I want no part of CoJack, much less at 1st base.
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Your sarcasm is not funny,
and I agree on the second sentence.
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We forgive you.
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That would be Landon Powell, obviously
Assuming we’re going strictly for weight.
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Or maybe a bigger deal with Anderson as a part of the package.
At least we know he’s a target now. Beane will probably get him, he seems pretty depressed knowing he will never be the RS everyday 1B unless both Adrian+Youk get hurt. That’s gotta suck knowing youre never gunna get a shot.
He doesn't know he's never gonna get a shot.
He hasn’t been playing up to his early billing lately. If he does he’ll boost his trade value and force the Sox to either find room for him or (more likely) trade him.
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I don't mind Anderson as a AAA fallback, but I'm not excited about him as a starting 1B
I don’t see him as even at the level of Barton
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not convinced he would be. Jackson is now an average major league hitter, which
is bad for a 1B, but I’m not sure Anderson would even be that.
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
An Anderson/Jackson platoon might be pretty decent
But no better than a Barton/Barton platoon.
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It might be adequate, but I doubt it would even be league average
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Holy crap, I didn't realize Conor had hit 100 wRC+.
Wow. The last two weeks really changed some things.
He still sucks.
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As a bench guy who can play all the corners
I think he’s plenty valuable
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, he wasn't a starter at the beginning of the season
He’s only at first every day b/c of Barton’s fail
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And Melvin's mancrush
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by Helloooo 1st on Aug 1, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
He is a beautiful man, I'll admit
Before the beard. Kinda looks like a hobo now.
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Lumberjackson™
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haha!
love the trademark.
Don't let your alligator mouth bite off more than your humminbird butt can back up. Dr. Phil.
They tell me it's MO's.
I know it’s not mine.
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Yeah.
I’m still surprised nobody else came up with it
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no one else cares that much.
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Thanks pam
Someday her tombstone will read,
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I think Jackson is one of the more interesting stories for rest of year
Is he the big bag of suck of the past year and a half, or the 2006-2008 jackson (roughly 360 wOBA). Personally, I find his story that he is finally regaining his timing/form after a long term debilitating illness to be plausible. So does he sustain the past couple of weeks, or fall back?
Trouble (to me) is that he isn't especially good defensively,
and he doesn’t have much power. So at best he’s going to “get on base more than average while playing meh defense.”
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not much power? WTF?
I’d like to see you hit a ball 280 feet!
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I would but my Valley Fever is acting up again
Check back with me in 2014.
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I thought Cindi was the one with Valley Fever
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Valli Fever
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at least with that lineup they could stand at home plate and watch their majestic home runs. who's gonna throw at anbody on our team in retaliation?
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getting rid of Barton for whining isn't sound business
In fact, in this case it’s about the worst reason to get rid of him.
Barton is hurt. And he’s facing the possible end of a career he’s looked forward to most of his life (and his mother has wanted for him his entire life). So he’s going to be on edge.
I know whining about the staff when hurt isn’t a good thing, but instead of dumping him for it, how about getting him healthy. If he gets healthy and returns to 2010 form, the As will be glad to have him and you probably won’t see him whining about his health either.
If the As trade him away for whining and then he returns to his former glory at another team, we’ll all be bitching about another bad Beane trade.
The best way to avoid this issue is just to work with the guy. Get him back to health. Then he either helps out the team, or we get more in a trade for him that a guy hitting .200 in AAA would and everyone goes away happy.
I know team morale does matter, but we also need performers, so let’s not work out of spite here.
Now, on top of that I want to say that perhaps the biggest factor with Carter is the defense, as Nico mentions. If the guy had better defense he would get more opportunities to get better at the plate and the level of production at the plate considered sufficient for his position would also be closer to where he currently is performing.
Even if he becomes a career DH, at current figures he won’t be one for long. Sure the team would be glad to have him for a few years at those cheap apprentice rates, but as he gets older he’ll age himself out of the league quickly.
by 4-6-3 on Aug 1, 2011 9:34 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I completely agree, and would like to point out that Rich Harden complained about the training
staff quite a bit and he’s back here. Dallas Braden might sue them and he’s still here.
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
True on Harden
Braden has kept his mouth shut in a professional way, hasn’t he?
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Under the advice of his attorney
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Yes, Braden has.
That is the high road to be taken. Usually that’s the smarter road to take, but when you are angry it’s easier to take the low road.
Either way, mistakes by the players doesn’t balance out mistakes on the GM side, they actually combine to make the problem worse.
other than suing them?
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He hasn't that I know of.
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Ziggy is pretty awesome
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes but a very good situational reliever. They should be happy to have him.
They can still trade for Pena and/or call up Goldschmidt. Allen was expendable.
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I really wish these players were not on this team:
We have internal options at AAA for the following
DeJesus = Taylor, Crisp = Miller, Fuentes = Devine, Matsui = Carter, Jackson = Allen, Harden = Godfrey.
And that’s not even everyday players we might get back in a trade, like Anderson or Jones or someone like that.
I was with you until Harden = Godfrey
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
and Crisp = Miller
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Miller is terrible.
We talk earlier in this thread about 500 K’s from three guys combined. Shit, Miller can do 500 all himself
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Ya that one's kinda dubious too, but Miller's been fantastic
155 wRC+ in an extreme pitchers’ park according to statcorner — 88/92 LHB/RHB Park Factors for wOBA. Even the Ks are mitigated by the 114/109 K Park Factor
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not saying he's bad
I’m just saying I highly doubt he comes up and duplicates what Crisp is doing as a combination of offense and defense together.
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Ya but I'd like to see what he can do. He seems entertaining in any case.
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh sure. I'm not disputing that.
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This one could go either way
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm a big fan of "seeing what we have".
We don’t know what 2 months of everyday Jai Miller looks like, we can only guess. I’d rather know so we can all say “Oh yeah, we tried him for a couple months and he had a -0.6 WAR, so yeah, he stinks. Good to know.”
by PL78 on Aug 1, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Yes
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
it would have been cool if the astros weren;t in such a hurry to pad the 8 game lead on the top draft pick
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I'd think keeping Brett Wallace up there would help with that motive
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they replaced him with a guy hitting worse...in AAA
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THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG
Rec’d. Just let the kid come up and hack, what do we have to lose?
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Then go watch a Rviercats game.
The Majors are for professional hitters like Kurt Suzuki and Conor Jackson!
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Right, but what does it matter?
We aren’t contending for anything but draft picks right now, might as well see what we have.
it matters in that Crisp can probably play his way into type B status and get a pick for us.
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Yes, if we trade him, then it should be for someone better than a sandwich
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Of course. Sorry.
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Not to worry
It didn’t confuse me any more than I already am.
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Oh really? I didnt think he was close
Guess thats what happens when you start stealing 3 bases a game.
The trick is to do that without getting hurt
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
but we would have to offer crisp arby to take advantage of that
Don’t you think he would take arbitration?
And then we’d be kinda stuck with him.
Hey I love Coco but that might defeat the plan of clearing up a spot for Jai Miller.
by Billy Frijoles on Aug 1, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Someone with his wheels is always in demand.
And hey, if he does take arbitration, that wouldn’t be the end of the world.
I think he could get a multiyear deal if he's good enough to make "B" status
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
If he makes type b
that means he has played >140 games, so maybe I guess.
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This isn't a long term plan, just for the end of the year.
Or even Sept, when we can call up anyone and everyone to make a spot start. I do not consider Godfrey or Miller being pieces we hold onto moving forward, but they could surprise us and if they dont, oh well this season aint goin anywhere anyway.
Arbitration!
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For.
by LoneStranger on Aug 1, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Those guys are from England and who gives a shit?
by LoneStranger on Aug 1, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Ireland =/= England...
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I think it was a Negativland/Casey Kasem reference
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, right -- well played
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Illumination!
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Illuminati on
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By the way, this weirdly pertinent discussion over at Minor League Ball happened back in October.
by danmerqury on Aug 1, 2011 9:45 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
LOL lund/urban show hasnt started
Both shows have spent 5 mins talking giants already
I don't think 95.7 has any Oakland people except Rick Tittle.
Unlike KNBR which at least is made up of Bay Area guys, 95.7 seems to be a hodge podge of random sports commentators from around the country.
The Rise Guys are from Sacramento
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There are people named "Rise Guys" and "Dibs"?
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
So he's still bitter over the 1984 Super Bowl?
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
hah maybe, probably. He was just going on about how great it would be for Nnamdi to go to SF.
Really annoying.
I know this isn't a football blog but you have to be insane or just a typical niner fan if you think SF is in 'win now' mode.
Alright I’m done with football
You also have to be insane ot think a team 20M under the cap with a biggest need at CB
didn’t go hard after one of the best CBs in the league.
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yea but screw the Raiders.
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by mikev on Aug 1, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Say it all you want but the Raiders will be the best football team in the Bay this year.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
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tallest midget.
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Screw you
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I hope you stub your toe.
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I hope Alex Smith is the NIners' quarterback for 7 more years
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7 years from now the Raiders will still be paying JaWalrus.
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But at least they knew when to let him go
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Well yeah, cause he sucked.
Smith is at least average-ish
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But he has baby hands!
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better than baby fat.
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before he was cut by the raiders, i saw him in a bar in sf. dude had at least 7-10 hamburgers in front of him. it was nuts.
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what about after appetizers though
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JaPunkass is such a big dude
Even Christ Carter is intimidated by him
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Or Chris Carter, also
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He's so big that when he sits around the house
he sits AROUND the house.
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me too. me too...
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the niners are gonna be bad this year. it's like they're tanking on purpose.
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We think they're bad, so they're gonna be 9-7.
Just like those other years when we thought they’d be 9-7 or 10-6 and they ended up 5-11 or 6-10.
Well, they let a few guys go, which were smart moves
Baas leaving sucked, but no way they were giving Clements 15M.
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i'm fine with clements leaving. there are many holes to fill and most of the talent has signed. not sure how we're going to cobble something together.
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Franklin resigned
It was also smart to let TKO walk, a 3 year deal was a mistake to him, and Bowman can pick up some slack.
They’ll be better than people think
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In the quiz I had to take at CSN
I put Kapernick down as a current 49er. I literally couldn’t/can’t name anyone else.
Someday her tombstone will read,
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who?
Someday her tombstone will read,
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I have never in my life
watched a Niner game.
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he's easily a top 10 defensive player in the nfl. his skills are epic.
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That's fine, but it's kind of amazing you haven't even heard of him
He’s an elite defender.
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I didn't pay attention to football all that much last year
and the year’s before it was my team or nothing.
Someday her tombstone will read,
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I'm not even a 49ers fan and I can name a few
Alex Smith, Nate Davis, Patrick Willis, Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree, Sopoaga (sp?)…
"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King
(Nate Davis has been gone for a long time)
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Who else did they have last year at QB
Didn’t they shuffle Smith with somebody… who am I thinking of?
"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King
DAVID CARR
but he’s released
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Troy Smith and David Carr
IE two losers.
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the Niners had LOSERS?
I am shocked.
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Look who's talking.
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Mhmm.
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TONY ROMO
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
can at least be an NFL starter
Someday her tombstone will read,
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so can Alex Smith.
Both have won the same amount of Super Bowls.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Tony Romo
has had more hot blondes than Alex Smith. So, there’s that…
"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King
Not so sure about that
Alex’ wife is pretty damn hot!
by longtimeasfan on Aug 1, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I also never said he was a SB/playoffs QB
Someday her tombstone will read,
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Which is true
because he’s not.
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K
Someday her tombstone will read,
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Oh.
Crabtree. I was under a lot of pressure, OKAY? Lol
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Yeah.
I remember the Crabtree drama well. On field stuff, no idea.
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I haven't watched football in more than 10 years
and even I can name a few: Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Ronnie Lott…
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
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I believe current was the qualifier.
Don't let your alligator mouth bite off more than your humminbird butt can back up. Dr. Phil.
Those guys aren't still there?
They were good. Why would they get rid of them?
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Yes, current.
The only passed question was Who was the “Say Hey” kid?
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I knew.
Thankfully. There was an equal balance of questions though so it was okay.
Someday her tombstone will read,
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I think I just lied.
I can’t remember what the A’s questions were
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BET
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"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
Im a niners fan but that is hilarious, and a little scary becasue I wouldn't put it past the niners.
Let’s just agree that both teams are run by children =D
rage
The Raiders' problems defensively had nothing to do with Nnamdi Asomugha.
Run defense is the biggest issue. The pass defense has been pretty good.
"You're all like big, fat failure turtles." - Edge
by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 1, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
And we have the best pass rushing Dline in the NFL!!!
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
Only the Steelers had more sacks than the Raiders last year.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 1, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
see how far that got the Raiders
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Like I said, the run defense needs to get better.
The Raiders ranked 29th against the run last year. This is the second year for Rolando McClain and Lamarr Houston, so it’ll get better. We’ll see how much better it is. If it’s average, the Raiders have a legitimate chance at winning the AFC West.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 1, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
yea except Nnamdi is gone so the pass defense isn't going to be elite anymore.
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they still have a good pass rush though
and Nnamdi didnt actually have a great season last year. still good, but not like amazing
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He's on the wrong side of 30, too.
Letting him go was the right move, however painful.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
yep, definitely.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
I don't know about the right move
But the necessary move? Yes. Couldn’t afford him.
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If anyone can defy aging
it’s Nnamdi. Good God, that man is smart.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
I love Nnamdi
I really hope he comes back to retire a Raider. I’m a bitter fan, so I don’t like to wish people well when they leave, but I still want to see Nnamdi have success. He’s a classy dude.
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
I wish Nnamdi the polar opposite of success
then again, I’m not a Raiders fan.
"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King
It can still be pretty good.
Last year, teams only threw against Stanford Routt and Chris Johnson. This year, teams will throw against those guys again. Routt is pretty decent, but he’s never matched up against the opposition’s best, so we’ll see how well that goes. The Raiders are 2-1 without Asomugha in the last three years. It’s a small sample size, but I’m just saying.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 1, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Got them back to respectability.
And all of the aforementioned d-lineman are very young (except for Seymour, who is instead very awesome.) They’re not going to be a pushover even without Nnamdi.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Pass defense was better than pretty good.
It was elite good.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Especially now
that pretty much all of the good CBs are off the market. Looks like Spencer and Phillip Adams at CB this year.
by longtimeasfan on Aug 1, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Asante Samuel can be had in a trade.
He’s the only starter left.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 1, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Nothing to trade except picks, and they don't need to be trading picks
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Yeah, I don't see them getting Samuel.
Barrows reporting there is interest in Carlos Rogers from the Redskins, we’ll see.
by longtimeasfan on Aug 1, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Samuel would be Deangelo Hall II.... awful.... plays off, scared to play man.
Would be total disaster to bring him in would be my guess.
For the Raiders, Samuel would be a bad trade.
For the 49ers, though, it could work because I don’t think the 49ers play man-to-man about 95 percent of the time.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 1, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah,
and when in Sacramento they talked all about Giants and only about the A’s when making fun of attendance. The Sacramento station, KHTK, as been really bad about only talking about the A’s this year when ridiculing them!
Whitey, one of the Rise Guys, often tweets crap about the A’s attendance.
by longtimeasfan on Aug 1, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
the station changed formats admitted what the format really is this morning.
http://www.athleticsnation.com/2011/7/27/2299581/sports-radio-95-7-will-become-95-7-the-game
by AV on Aug 1, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Ok, they have an ad making fun of KNBR by the host not being able to hear the caller when he mentions the A's.
As soon as he mentions the Giants, the host can hear him fine.
I had a hard time figuring out if it was a commercial.
by LoneStranger on Aug 1, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Marcus Allen?
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
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Meh, Thames has some intense (bad) splits.
"Some of us know him as the a-hole who piled into Ray Fosse in an All-Star game (it's why Ray is the way he is folks)" - OptimistPrime
Scouts are saying Allen projects as a 4th OF with pop, like Thames.
according to slusser’s twitter. Hey, I hope he plays LF and has 600 PAs with am 850 OPS next year, but that may be a reach.
One key difference is that Allen will have the platoon advantage 3/4 of the time,
while Thames has it only 1/4 of the time.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
The good thing about Allen
is that he hits lefties about as well as righties. He doesn’t really need to be platooned.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Even better!
And the sign of a good hitter in general.
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Right, but Thames ceiling is a platoon player because of his splits.
Allen still has a high ceiling.
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Be A' Good Time
by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Aug 1, 2011 10:11 AM PDT reply actions
first 10 mins beltran slump talk
Giants catcher issues
Cabrera trade talk
Bip Roberts interview more giants talk at 1030
love it!!! hummm baby!!
Status quo.
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The Giants want ALL the Bay Area!
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
It'd be nice if people stopped whining like children every time 95.7 has any Giants talk at all
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by Flashfire on Aug 1, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
It'd be nice if on the first day of the relaunch, the A's Flagship didn't talk about the Giants 75% of the time.
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by mikev on Aug 1, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I wonder what the optimal percentage is
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
5%
only to make fun of them.
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by thewhizkid on Aug 1, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
This.
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Well they have ratings to think about too
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Good way to build up ratings is by not talking about the team you are a flagship for.
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Well, then it's a good thing they've gone all over the place saying
they’re different from KNBR and not trying to do that shit
and then doing exactly that shit.
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by mikev on Aug 1, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Eh.
I don’t like it, but I sure can understand why they do it. They’re a struggling radio station, just like every other station.
This
At least they’re not rabid for the Giants like Monty was.
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by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
yeahh i thought they were supposed to go against KNBR
not try to be bought by them or something
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
That's my second rec for you in this line of replies already
STOP SAYING SMART SHIT, DUDE.
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-Moneyball
I'm trying.
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mike is a rec'd machine
A Kouzmanoff for the rest of us!
by OptimistPrime on Aug 1, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
HARDLY KNEW HIM!
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
I'm not sure whether the correct percentage is
A) 0%
B) 25% — Only when something big happens for them
C) 50%
I don’t think it’s 75%
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I wonder what percentage the A's are brought up on KNBR?
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I've no idea, I don't listen to them, but I'd imagine it's a similar issue
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
KNBR: Wait, there’s a baseball team in the Bay Area besides the Giants?
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Which paper?
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
on 95.7? Interesting.
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
(hangs head)
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Not your fault
I shut off the jk font.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
I'd be interested to know how actively A's fans are trying to participate by calling in and so on
If they aren’t, they have nothing to complain about.
If they are and they’re being ignored, that’s a much different story.
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Funny story.
Guy called in today to the Wheelhouse and complained that they’re talking too much Giants. They asked him which A’s topic they should talk about. He couldn’t come up with anything.
Of course, there was a trade and an almost-trade. The Harden thing is sorta news, because the Red Sox balked when they discovered something that they should have known from the beginning anyway…. He’s glass….
But other than that, I can’t think of anything else. Giants are still in the playoff hunt, A’s are effectively out.
I don’t mind Niner or Raider talk, and I don’t even mind some Giants talk. I don’t go out of my way to listen to Giants stuff, so all I get is from 95.7. It’s good to know what’s happening on the other side of the bay, even if it’s just to be more knowledgeable about the Giants than most of their fans are.
by LoneStranger on Aug 1, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Bleh
If someone’s going to complain, at least come correct and have something A’s-related to discuss. That just looks bad.
Talk about the trade.
Talk about the trade that fell apart.
Talk about the others they could have traded but maybe value in return wasn’t good or the A’s are eyeing picks based on status.
Talk about how they’ve played since the break.
Talk about how the hole they dug before the break, too.
Talk about something, anything. But don’t say “I got nothing.”
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it'd also be nice...
if the ATMs in the Coliseum didnt carry ads directed at Giants fans… dont know why that bugs me so much, but it really does!
it's not like they're complaining about one mention
If JJ’s right, which im assuming he is since im not listening, that seems to be the entire conversation on supposedly the A’s station. I think that’s justified
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
I'm sure it's accomplishing a lot complaining about it here
That’s going to make things change.
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wowww
because whenever we complain about the A’s our objective is to get something done as well.
Sometimes it just feels good to say something and talk to other people people about it.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Yes, but sometimes it seems every single day someone is complaining that the ratio of Giants talk is unacceptable, etc.
Often it’s along with a general misconception that 95.7 should be only about the A’s.
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Just about every single morning I listen for about 20 minutes or so.
and almost every single day it’s talking about the Giants for that 20 minutes. It’s really kind of ridiculous.
That was the old morning show, though. I didn’t listen this morning.
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Well, I turned it off when Urban came on
But that’s because I can’t stand Urban.
I don’t listen to the station much as it is because I’m not a big fan of sportstalk radio in the first place, so hey. Just saying that people are better off taking their complaints to the producers, etc. – if they aren’t already.
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Could you see his earring through the radio?
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I think he ditched the earring
He was tired of everyone making fun of it.
by Glorious Mundy on Aug 1, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
He moved it.
To another place on his body.
by LoneStranger on Aug 1, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
ALL the TV stations in Fresno give the Giants' score during their sportscasts
They NEVER give the A’s scores. EVER!
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
That's because they're a Giants farmtown.
And it’s friggin’ Fresno.
by LoneStranger on Aug 1, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
got over on your girlie ’cause you know she never says no.
by AV on Aug 1, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So we can't talk about the A's flagship station here?
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I'm gonna call in and suggest to the host that they should get a major league baseball team to broadcast on their station
to bring in listeners
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But let me know, so I can set TuneIn Radio to record it.
by LoneStranger on Aug 1, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
sure, if I ever do I will let you know
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That app is freaking awesome
I love it
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
The "pro" version was free on the amazon market for android awhile back
awesome.
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What's it to you?
The lifeblood of this site is complaining about things related to the A’s. To the extent complaining about roster moves, or ballpark concessions, or the tarps on the upper deck accomplish anything, so does this.
by Glorious Mundy on Aug 1, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think the lifeblood of this site is complaining
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
The lifeblood of teh Internet is complaining.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Nobody complains about porn
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
That's because the internet is for porn
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
And bashing people anonymously.
"Hello and welcome to another wonderful and frightening night of A's baseball." - Gaijin_Suketto
by EddieVegas_NRAF on Aug 1, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
and for porn
A Kouzmanoff for the rest of us!
by OptimistPrime on Aug 1, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Did I mention the porn?
Also, it’s for porn
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
But really, you guys are just talking about
the Internet in the U.S. It’s different in the rest of the world. In Europe it’s for porn, and in Japan it’s for porn.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
But what about South America
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
Oh, funny you should mention it.
In South America, the Internet is used for porn.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
FINALLY
Someone got the reference. Awesome show.
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
I've seen the show three times.
Twice in SF, and once in NY, with three different casts.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Saw them in Vegas and in SJ.
Wouldn’t mind going to see it again. I have the soundtrack and throw it on every so often.
Same - love the soundtrack!
We’ll have to take Hunter next year.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
"It thucks to be me...
Thorry, daddy, it’th sthuck in my head!"
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Remember kids,
she’s not a whore if she’s an actress
2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too
I always wondered how making a porno was legal
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It's quite the loophole.
Those independent sites where some guy makes homemade pornos and sells subscriptions to the website? He doesn’t expect to make any money at it. He just wants to legally pay for sex with a lot of hot “actresses”.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
I always assumed porn was a pretty profitable side business
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I doubt it.
I think it’s (1) profitable for a few big successful operations but not so much for the zillions of little ones, and (2) generally much more profitable for the women than the men.
My comment above was talking about sites run by a guy, where he is also “actor” and “director”. I would guess that nearly all of those are operated at a loss, financially.
Even the independent ones by women, I suspect most make only a little more than to cover expenses and are primarily to indulge her exhibitionism. But then there are a lot of small businesses that are just self-financing hobbies.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
I would think that
having sex for money and being able to recoup even some of those expenses while being protected from prosecution is a pretty good deal.
If that was your thing, err hobby, I mean.
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it's interesting. the privacy premium for delivery of content should be higher in an Internet world, than retail distribution or mail order world.
i think the marginal production cost due to cheaper technology and ease of distribution has destroyed the business for the creator of content. i also suspect that content ownership is harder to litigate online than offline and leads to erosion of content value.
i dunno though.
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Yes, that's exactly it:
the marginal production cost due to cheaper technology and ease of distribution has destroyed the business for the creator of content.
It’s essentially the same thing that happened to journalism.
There are enough people who want to do it for free that once the production and distribution costs are subtracted the supply can easily meet the demand for next to nothing.
In both cases those distribution costs supported an artificial demand for quality, and when it was removed it turned out that the audience actually doesn’t care that much about quality (or more precisely, what they care about doesn’t correspond closely to what was formerly perceived as “quality”). If they have to pay for it either way, then they’ll go for the best, but once there is plentiful free supply most of the audience will happily downgrade.
It’s happening to music, too. The mega-corporations are resisting it, with some success, but they are like a dam against the flood.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
eff the music industry anyway, I say.
Good riddance.
Cardenas!!!! WoooooooooooooHOOOOOOOOO
And she's all business.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I dunno if this is just because we have him so i'm going to make myself like him
But i do like Allen over Anderson, and i almost wonder if Carter and Allen platoon for a year.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
I don't really want to relegate them to platoon status until we know that they can't handle regular duty
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Not even while they're getting a grip of things?
I just brought it up since they’re opposite handedness
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
I want to give each of them everyday action for 2 months at one position and then re-evaluate
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
fair enough
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
That comment and your sig could give people the wrong impression about your intentions WRT the A's' young sluggers...
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Or the right impression!
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Iwakuma news
Not that I expect the A’s to really go after him again:
Hisashi Iwakuma hires new agent
Bye-bye, Don Nomura.
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you do!
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Rather stake the flag to Darvish
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
In 275 plate appearances at Triple-A Sacramento this year, Michael Taylor is batting .285/.371/.485.
His park adjusted wOBA is .400!
"You're all like big, fat failure turtles." - Edge
by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 1, 2011 10:39 AM PDT reply actions
oh shooot.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Dude better come up in September
As much as I’m enjoying seeing Matsui playing better than he has, Taylor needs the reps now.
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
DON"T BRING HIM UP! HE'S TUU OLD!
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
YES!!!!! WE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL HE'S A BIT YOUNGER!!!!!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
(This damn jk font keeps shutting off)
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
If that's on statcorner, they think Raley is an extreme pitcher's park
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
It is big, and it's 50 feet above sea level.
It’s certainly no hitter’s park.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Sure, but the climate is a lot different than it is in the Bay Area
Or even San Diego for that matter. Much hotter and fairly dry in comparison too. I’d think the ball carries more there than places like Oakland.
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I think the ball carries better underwater than it does in Oakland.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Brandon Allen once hit a 425 foot homer to dead center underwater.
true story.
Official Athletics Nation Rotating Tagline Editor - Pam liked my old sig better.
My thoughtful watermelon is easily mistook for an early American catapult.
DURRRR THEY’RE TOO OLD, BABIP IS TOO HIGH, TOO MANY Ks, DURRRRRR
by mikev on Aug 1, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
his rookie season, brandon allen hit 0 HRs. he was intentionally walked 654 times.
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by stm72 on Aug 1, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Brandon Allen won Rookie of the Year,
while playing in AAA
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by thewhizkid on Aug 1, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Brandon Allen won a gold glove in each of his pro seasons.
At every position.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Even designated hitter
"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King
which is now called the brandon allen award for excellence in baseball
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actually that's the award they give to the guy who has the most assists in the NBA every year.
Official Athletics Nation Rotating Tagline Editor - Pam liked my old sig better.
My thoughtful watermelon is easily mistook for an early American catapult.
DURRRR THEY’RE TOO OLD, BABIP IS TOO HIGH, TOO MANY Ks, DURRRRRR
Oh, did Palmeiro lose the naming rights to that one?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
nice
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Brandon Allen once hit a home run into the right field bleachers
Just by flexing his biceps at it
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
by darooster on Aug 1, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It looked to me like he sneezed and it went out
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by OptimistPrime on Aug 1, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
When Glen Kuiper says Brandon Allen fisted a ball
He literally tossed the bat aside and punched the baseball for a home run.
"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King
He fisted the ball?
I didn’t know that was physically possible
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by OptimistPrime on Aug 1, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
BARELY KNEW HER
Official Athletics Nation Rotating Tagline Editor - Pam liked my old sig better.
My thoughtful watermelon is easily mistook for an early American catapult.
DURRRR THEY’RE TOO OLD, BABIP IS TOO HIGH, TOO MANY Ks, DURRRRRR
BARELY KNEW'ER!
A Kouzmanoff for the rest of us!
by OptimistPrime on Aug 1, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Suckas! I was first. Recognize!
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by OptimistPrime on Aug 1, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
not on my screen.
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My thoughtful watermelon is easily mistook for an early American catapult.
DURRRR THEY’RE TOO OLD, BABIP IS TOO HIGH, TOO MANY Ks, DURRRRRR
not on mine.
mikey won
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Brandon Allen once forgot to bring his bats to a game
So he used a 2×4 instead and went 4 for 4 with 3 HR and 12 RBI
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
NICE
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
FALSE
Kuiper would only say the ball was driven, he has no other verbs for balls hit out of the infield
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
DAMNIT
Meant looked at the baseball
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
BTW, Raley's dimensions are pretty fair
330 LF
380 LCF
403 CF
380 RCF
325 RF
Slightly deeper in the middle but I think that helps balance out some effects of the heat in the summer.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
Yes, that's from there.
"You're all like big, fat failure turtles." - Edge
by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 1, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
The unadjusted wOBA is .369 on Fangraphs. I don't know what to believe.
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Can we call it something like .380 and be happy?
"You're all like big, fat failure turtles." - Edge
by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 1, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
It might be. They think Raley is just about neutral
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, not really neutral, but much more so than statcorner
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, he deserves a call up right now
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
I think
DBack fans are NUTS in the reviews I’ve seen them write on Allen. The kid played what, 10 MLB games….And they were writing him off. I guess it helps that they have that other Top 1B prospect waiting to play.
My thoughts on next years lineup: Only difference than Nico’s is that I’d like Willingham to bat 3rd for a while, until Allen gets his feet wet.
1.)Weeks – 2B
2.)Crisp – CF
3.)Willingham – DH
4.)Allen 1B
5.)Sweeney – RF
6.)Taylor – LF
7.)Sizemore – 3B
8.)Suzuki – C
9.)Pennington – SS
That really isn’t a bad lineup. I just wish we could give Recker or Donaldson a long look for the rest of the season, but we all know that isn’t going to happen. I still think Donaldson can be a good MLBer. Also, I think we take a chance on a wild-card Free Agent next year, someone like Pena, Aramis Ramirez, Raul Ibanez, or Nick Swisher, and use them as insurance in case both Allen and Carter aren’t ready.
1.) Weeks 2B
2.) Crisp CF
3.) Willingham RF
4.) Swisher DH
5.) Allen 1B
6.) Sizemore 3B
7.) Taylor LF
8.) Penny SS
9.) Suzuki C
In regards to the pitching staff, we have lots of reasons to be optimistic:
Gio, Cahill, and Tyson Ross or FDLS, is a great 1-2-3., and who knows, McCarthy would be nice for another year. Add a FA here as well, take a gamble on Chris Carpenter, or maybe Hiroki Kuroda or Aaron Harang. Imagine this rotation: Gio, Cahill, Ross, FDLS, McCarthy, Harang…With Brett Anderson and Dallas Braden ready to come back one day.
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Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time
by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Aug 1, 2011 10:39 AM PDT reply actions
I think it's fairly common practice for fans of teams to downplay the impact or potential of people they get rid of
Allen’s hardly an established star, but it’s not like the guy’s a pile of junk.
Ziggy’s got his flaws, especially against lefties, but anyone who’s followed things can see how he’ll help them if used properly.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
true true
My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time
by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Aug 1, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Except on AN
Where negativity always trends towards the A’s and whatever they do
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
Sort of like the A's fans who write off Carter?
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yep just like that!
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
If the A's traded Carter
… I feel like the level of animosity wouldn’t equal what I’ve seen from Zona fans.
I don't think there's any way to say that Ross is anything other than injured
or to pencil him in for even 30 starts next season. And I think FDLS as a major-league starter is very speculative, to say the least.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
So really we're only certain about Gio, Cahill, Carpenter, and Harang.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
hahaha
My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time
by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Aug 1, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Still Doing Little.
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by dwishinsky on Aug 1, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
From Lockard on Scout.com
Just when he was getting close to being sent out to Triple-A Sacramento, he injured his wrist and was forced to wear a soft cast for nearly two months. Doolittle is just now fielding groundballs in Arizona, but he has yet to start swinging a bat.
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
RIP Doolittle
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
srsly.
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My thoughtful watermelon is easily mistook for an early American catapult.
DURRRR THEY’RE TOO OLD, BABIP IS TOO HIGH, TOO MANY Ks, DURRRRRR
Ryan Doolittle hasnt pitched since may 3rd
Seems like injuries are common in that family
Bip Roberts on The Game saying how Phillies are "scared" of Giants pitching.
He cited the look in their eyes when facing such imposing guys like Lincecum.
I call Bullshit.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
Might be prompted by Manuel saying sort of disparaging things about the Giants' pitchers recently
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
According to 95.7 twitter
HUGE Giants mystery guest in the 1 o’clock hour.
any guesses?
Hey! I love Willie!
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Barry Zito doing a cooking lesson
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
How to serve meatballs?
"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King
by YonYonson on Aug 1, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
It involves spending hours thinking about what meatball to make
Then the meatball either doesn’t even make it on the plate, or is gone from the plate so fast that you hardly knew it was there.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
There's a joke about "nibbling" out there somewhere
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Aug 1, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Well done, sir
Rec’d
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
FanGraphs did an American League West prospect review.
You can see it all here.
Oakland Athletics
1. Grant Green, SS/OF
2. Chris Carter, 1B
3. Michael Choice, OF
4. Jemile Weeks, 2B
5. Max Stassi, C
6. Ian Krol, LHP
7. Yordy Cabrera, SS
8. Michael Taylor, OF
9. Rashun Dixon, OF
10. Chad Lewis, 3B/1B
Green hasn’t produced the same kind of offensive performance that he did in the potent California League in 2010, but he’s been solid this year. A move to the outfield from shortstop – where he was merely adequate – could really help his value. Choice, though, has been the big mover in 2011 and could be the top prospect in the system when the 2012 lists are released this winter. He’s slugged 27 homers in 95 games, but remember that this is the same league that inflated Green’s power numbers. I took a big swing and missed with Dixon, expecting his athleticism to continue to develop into solid baseball skills with the help of the California League. I was wrong. I also expected a quicker transition to pro ball for Lewis, but he’s struggled. I took a lot of heat at the time for omitting Stephen Parker from the Top 10 list, as he appeared on Law’s, Goldstein’s and Sickel’s list) but his numbers appear to have been inflated by the California League. He now looks more like a quad-A player or big league back-up.
"You're all like big, fat failure turtles." - Edge
by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 1, 2011 11:03 AM PDT reply actions
NOTE EXCLUSION OF JAI MILLER EVERYBODY!
HE IS NOT A PROSPECT!!!
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he's played in the bigs before
so what if he’s not called a prospect, Jack Cust wasn’t a prospect.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Bullshit
He was a huge prospect at one time
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haha im talking about when he made the roster :p
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
One thing for sure
The A’s are getting bigger and blacker
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In the river
With cement galoshes
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They also appear to have paired up Radnich and Damon Bruce as co-hosts
Awkardness.
by Glorious Mundy on Aug 1, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
At first I thought you meant the Year 1050
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Bruce talks about sports.
Radnich really doesn’t.
"You're all like big, fat failure turtles." - Edge
by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 1, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
he's gotten pretty sad. all he talks about is entertainment and money.
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He's only entertaining on KRON's New Year's Eve show.
by LoneStranger on Aug 1, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
That's because you probably actually go somewhere on NYE.
I haven’t been out in years.
by LoneStranger on Aug 1, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
That's part of his charm!
I like Radnich’s irreverence. I don’t like the dumping of Bruno, they were pretty funny together
"Da greatness of Da Rooster" - RLangford
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
Wow thats terrible
Bruce is pretty ok. Radnich is insufferable
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Can we just make Allen catch?
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Aw
Craig Breslow
Now that the trade deadline has passed and #BradZiegler was traded, the reality of having nothing to talk about is setting in…
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It could be multi-faceted
I got the impression things are very quiet again now that all the trade stuff is in the past, but I also took it to mean he and Ziggy talked a lot.
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Yea, I'm not reading anything bad into it, other than maybe he misses a teammate and friend.
by LoneStranger on Aug 1, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Fuentes seems like a talkative guy...
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
There's a really cute picture of Huston and Brown playing chess
I can’t find it right now, but it really is adorable.
by whiteshoes40 on Aug 1, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Aw, I thought I had it but I just have the SFGate article bookmarked
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. —Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
Yeah, same here.
I think it might have been on Michael Zagaris’s blog, which has since disappeared from the interwebs.
I was wondering about that
I loved that blog.
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On first read, I thought you said "meth major"
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He IS awfully skinny...
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what do we think really soon means? does beane mean once the rosters expand? or tomorrow?
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By roster expansion
not before aug 15 i’d say
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whats that?
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
just stuffing him at AAA stinks to me. play the kid in the bigs.
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yeah i agree.
im kinda getting tired of CoJack
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
cojack has been fine actually but he's not the future. this season is basically over. play the kids.
i wanna see allen and carter daily in the bigs. i
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i feel the same way.
which is why im tired of cojack.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
he's been a good defender and on the whole he's been average offensively. i'm actually okay with that. but not next year.
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I think Brandon Allen is a worse player than you think, Nico
He’s going to strike out a lot
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
The more important thing is what happens when he doesn't strike out
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your sig
What do you think is going to happen to Cardenas? September call-up? Traded in the offseason? I don’t think the A’s think very highly of him…
It's meant sarcastically
I don’t think much of Cardenas either. Maybe makes a nice utility player.
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Will he be worse than Cust?
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't know
He’s consistently been around 23-25% K/PA in the minors.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
So...similar to Cust?
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
From the article in FanGraphs about him yesterday:
His 23% strikeout rate on the farm can be considered a minor red flag, but it does not predict a 35% major league strikeout rate.
It’s not that big of a deal.
His callup this year was monstrous
172/351/483 looks weird, but that was with a 154 BABIP.
With a ~280 BABIP you’re looking at:
300/480/610 or so. I doubt he’s that good, but to say he didn’t perform well means you don’t understand baseball.
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Yeah, he's not that good.
He had five hits and three of them were homeruns. This was over the course of eleven games. ZiPS projects a line of .244/.336/.457. That’s good, and I think he could be better than that.
His K-rate this year w/ Reno was 23.8%
A few other people’s:
Carter: 27.2%
Miller: 35.6%
Taylor: 19.3%
Green: 20.3%
Choice: 24.5%
BB-rates?
Allen: 17.0%
Carter: 11.4%
Miller: 12.4%
Taylor: 11.6%
Green: 7.4%
Choice: 11.6%
It did sound like Allen has had higher swing and miss percentages, but he’s not THAT bad with the strikeouts.
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For some reason I thought Allen walked less than that
Huh
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His Triple-A rate is 15.6% but that's up over his rate of 8.7% at the lower levels
Way up, actually.
Some things by level:
Rookie: 480 PA, 48 BB, 129 SO, 10.0% BB, 26.9% SO, 2.69 SO/BB
Low-A: 988 PA, 61 BB, 250 SO, 6.2% BB, 25.3% SO, 4.10 SO/BB
High-A: 366 PA, 41 BB, 83 SO, 11.2% BB, 22.7% SO, 2.02 SO/BB
Double-A: 447 PA, 49 BB, 88 SO, 11.0% BB, 19.7% SO, 1.80 SO/BB
Triple-A: 1074 PA, 167 BB, 223 SO, 15.6% BB, 20.8% SO, 1.34 SO/BB
Marked improvement upon reaching Triple-A, though there was already a bit of a reduction in his SO% and his SO/BB ratio.
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I think some "bottom line" (BOTTOM LINE) issues are
- How is his pitch recognition?
- Can he handle breaking pitches from LHPs?
- Does he have a plan or does he just swing hard a lot?
If the answers to these kinds of questions are positive, he has a great chance to make the adjustments needed to mash at the big league level. If not, he’s in trouble.
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Also, does he know how to apply sunscreen without squirting it into his eyes?
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MO! MO!
Did you hear this, MO?
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Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli
Money
A lot of money is coming off (or already came off) the books after this year. Here is my estimation (please let me know if I have bad info):
Braden: $3.35M (we won’t offer him arb. will we?)
Zeigler: $1.25M
Kouz: $4.75M
Ellis: $6.00M
DeJesus: $6.00M
Willingham: $6.00M
Crisp: $5.75M
Jackson: $3.20M
Matsui: $4.25M
Harden: $1.50M
That totals $42M off of this year’s payroll.
Let’s make the following assumptions…
Re-sign Crisp and Willingham to multiyear deals at about $8M per year. Hopefully they want to be back and they won’t get a better offer over 3 years or so.
Re-sign Harden for something like 2yrs/$6M… not a sure thing but I think he will want to be back and he is probably worth it even if he only plays half the year.
Factor about $6M for arbitration increases and higher contracted salaries (we don’t really have a lot of this so the number isn’t that high… I estimated this based on the contracts I know but I had trouble finding complete info)
So…
$42M – $8M – $8M – $3M – $6M = $17M
So if we assume Nico’s 2012 lineup (and I do, although in my head Carter was at DH and Willingham was in LF despite the risks involved), we will be about $17M below our 2011 payroll. The A’s have always spent up to their budgeted payroll even if it meant blowing money on guys they don’t need (Fuentes etc).
So my question to you is, where do you want to spend that money? We have a full lineup for 2012 assuming Crisp and Willingham come back. If they don’t, I assume we could find something else with that money or play Sweeney and put that money elsewhere.
What position do you target with that money? Who among our starters do we try to upgrade?
Some high profile options:
- Yu Darvish (would be a lot of fun with all the media following him)
- Berkman (doesn’t want to play here and will get plenty of money elsewhere)
- Fielder (see Berkman)
- Pujols (see Fielder)
- Reyes (I can dream)
- A. Ramirez (he might actually get his optioned picked up now)
It is a weak free agent class beyond those guys and Willingham and Crisp. I’d say there is a good chance Beane takes on money via trade again. But the question still remains, where do we upgrade? Are we confident in Sizemore and Pennington? Do we dare sign another 1B? I’d really like them to make a run at Darvish or Reyes, with Darvish being more possible since he won’t have a choice in the matter.
I'd vote for Darvish. I wouldn't give up the draft pick for anyone other than guys who'll cost more
than $17M.
I wouldn’t sign Willingham and I’d take the picks instead though. I’d rather go with Beltran in RF and live with Sweeney/Taylor/Miller/whomever in LF.
I’m not totally opposed to signing Crisp, but I personally wouldn’t do it if he’s Type B. I’d rather have the sandwich. If I really really wanted a veteran CF, I’d go for Melky Cabrera or Endy Chavez or Julio Borbon or somebody. Of course if Crisp isn’t Type B he could be signed, and probably for less than $8M
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Darvish would be awesome.
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Hard to imagine that happening
The contract would be ridiculous.
Remember that bit about small market teams avoiding contract risk…
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meh. Just do it. Not my money!
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Oh yeah. I wanted to rec that 4000 times
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Jimmy Rollins
But that’s for a future post!
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I think he's one of the few good position players
who might actually want to sign to play in Oakland. And he’s a very good SS now, so he’ll likely age into being a good SS and then maybe an ok SS, or a pretty good 3Bman.
Anyway, guys like Pujols and Fielder are pipe dreams but Rollins? Kind of another “Furcal” try, only one who might put you as first choice.
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Does he like Fatapples?
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Born in Oakland, raised in Alameda.
That helps some, though I think he’s pretty settled in Philly/NJ now. Pretty sure his wife is from there.
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Grew up an A's fan.
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Didn't help Lars Anderson :(
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Nor Wallace
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I worked with his dad at Clorox in Downtown Oakland, they are both A's fans
by theblackpearl on Aug 1, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Tell them to make him sign with Oakland
kthxbai.
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I'm sure we could make a go at him
I just don’t think as highly of him. And I think Philly will make a good effort to re-sign him.
having watched rollins in philly for 4 years
I can tell you that we dont want him. He is old, he swings at too many first pitches, and he can’t walk
"If people don't know who he is, they'd better turn on the television and check him out."
Weird
His walk rate is higher this year than it’s been for most of his career, at least – and he has one more walk than strikeout.
He’s also seeing more Pit/PA than he normally does, and slightly more than league average.
He’s at a 3.4 WAR right now and is on pace for about a 5 WAR season. He’s only had three of those in his career.
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What further intrigues me is that Philly is known to be a good hitter's park, but...
This year Rollins is at .243/.333/.358 at home and .292/.342/.455 on the road, so his solid season is certainly not “just the product of playing his home games in a hitter friendly park”.
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Urban probably wasn't a great choice for the first day of the relaunch.
by LoneStranger on Aug 1, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea, I was under the impression that he wasn't going to be there the whole time, but what do I know?
Wasn't just Urban, Lund's penchant on overpronouncing Hispanic names
drives me crazy. Not to mention all the Giant talk. I’ll still listen to CT on occasion and maybe give Tittle a try but that’s about it.
I'm actually starting to get excited for Brandon Allen.
He might be a worse version of Stanton for this year, meaning just some monster shots that’ll be fun to watch.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
If between Carter, Allen, Taylor, and Choice
If just two of those guys work out – That’s still pretty awesome.
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I don't like the sound of Sizemore, Penny, and Suzuki starting on our team anymore.
Not offering a solution, just complaining.
WHAT!??!?!?!?!?!?!
how does zooks have a defensive value of zero this year? ugh.
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Suzuki is the very definition of a MLB average catcher
Not that easy to find, in fact.
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The Twinkies were running out Sal Butera for example.
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more like he's taken his rightful position at 1B
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by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
which is funny,
because at a quick glance of his numbers this last weekend, his season is looking a lot like Daric Barton’s 2010
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It looks exactly like Ryan Sweeney's 2011
by Billy Frijoles on Aug 1, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
heh
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barton had a 400 obp and 800 ops. conor has a bit further to go offensively
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Conor? I was talking about Mauer
I have a bad feeling about Mauer long-term
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by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
His 2009 power seems more and more like a fluke now, doesn't it?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
For their sake, let's hope he's not Barry Zito
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by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Mauer sure is aggressive with the
advertising endorsements, isn’t he? He’s like the Peyton Manning of baseball.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Well played, Mauer
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by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
He's gonna milk his career for every dollar he can get
I can’t hate on it, he likes counting money
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"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
i was talking about Mauer.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
haha it's okay :p
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Is he related to Drew Butera?
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Sal's son, I believe.
Sal’s illegitimate son, by the way, is Drew I Can’t Believe It’s Not Butera.
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Yeah, whoops.
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Drew Butera
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Member of the club.
I was trying to put together a list last night. Found a bunch of near misses, but no true qualifiers.
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Sizemore's been pretty good this year.
He’s racked up 1 WAR in just 43 games this season, and I don’t think he’s really doing anything outrageous. His defense has been solid (he could work on his footwork, but his glove’s fine) and his .250/.340/.400 seems pretty realistic going forward. He was a bit older when the A’s picked him up, but he had a really solid track record in the minors with Detroit. They just never gave him a fair shake.
He's also basically learning 3B on the fly.
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Yu darvish is being represented by Nomura
hahah
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Yeah the chances he becomes an A
Just went from infinitely small to none.
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Pretty much
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
No, I think he'll just be a regular free agent
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Because he's completed his required service time in Japan.
I thought I read that somewhere, which is why he didn’t really care too much about signing in Oakland this year.
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Yu Darvish?
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No I was talking about the other dude. My bad.
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Oh yeah,
We wont get Iwakuma likely either haha
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Fruedian slip?
95.7 The Game
SF Giants GM Billy Beane on The Wheelhouse NOW with John Lund and Mychael Urban.
"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King
Quick! Trade Posey and Cain to the A's!
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Zito is up for another extension, right?
$25 mil/year
"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King
actually no.
HE STILL HAS 3 YEARS LEFT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
19M, 20M, 18M option!
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is that a player's option?
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probably not, but there's a 7M buyout for it.
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Damn
I would love to be paid $7 million to not play baseball.
"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King
I'll do it for 1/2 that.
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I'l ldo it for half of that number!
REVERSE BIDDING WAR
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the rumor is the giants are thinking about cutting him and just eating the salary
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that would be hilarious.
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and massively embarrassing for Zito
someone would pick him up
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by OptimistPrime on Aug 1, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I would do it for 1/10 that amount
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uhh techinically i do it already.
so i’d take any money
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They ought to
That said, I hope he ends up pitching in the playoffs for them against Halladay.
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by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope the D-Backs make a furious rally
And with the division tied on the final day of the season, it’s Zito’s turn in the rotation.
"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King
And I'll be there to watch!!!
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please boo loudly
And bring your smoking hot GF with you.
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by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
of course.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
They wish it was true
So they could have a GM that knows what he’s doing (at least occasionally)
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-Moneyball
Ha, 95.7 scheduled Billy Beane thinking he was the GM of the Giants
“He works for what team?”
that's hillarious! i was driving through Vegas when they mentioned sabean as the guest for the next segment.
i instantly went back to listening to pandora.
good post, thanks Nico
I am not really excited to go forward into next season with Suzuki though.
A Kouzmanoff for the rest of us!
Yep me neither.
Allen at catcher!
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
I was thinking of Jai Miller, convert him
{heavy on the sarcasm}
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by OptimistPrime on Aug 1, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Nate's plan for 2012:
- Get rid of Matsui. Call up Carter. Carter is your new DH.
- Offer Willingham arbitration, let him walk. Collect your draft picks. Brandon Allen is your new LF.
- Offer DeJesus arbitration. If he accepts, fine. I like him anyway. DeJesus platoons with Michael Taylor in RF. If he doesn’t accept, Taylor is your new RF.
- Move Weeks to CF. He’s your new CF.
- Rosales fills in at 2B until Grant Green arrives. Cardenas/Sogard acts as backup IF.
- Sizemore stays at 3B, Pennington stays at SS.
- If Daric Barton is healthy, he gets the 1B job. If not, sign a veteran.
The lineup would look like this:
C: Suzuki
1B: Barton
2B: Rosales
3B: Sizemore
SS: Pennington
LF: Allen
CF: Weeks
RF: Taylor/DeJesus
DH: Carter
C2: Whoever has the better spring between Powell and Recker
IF: Sogard
OF: Sweeney
OF: Taylor, if DeJesus accepts arbitration. Miller or somebody if he doesn’t.
I’ll defend some of these. Last year Rosales posted ridiculous numbers at 2B, small sample size notwithstanding. If he’s healthy (I don’t think he was when they brought up back this season), his defense alone could make him worthwhile. Think, a poor man’s poor man’s Ben Zobrist. Sizemore earned his spot, and I just don’t like Kouzmanoff that much. Allen, Taylor and Carter have all put their time in at AAA. They deserve shots.
I don’t understand why Weeks is gifted the 2B job, while forcing Green to move to CF. It’s just more logical that the faster guy would be a better fit in CF, and the faster guy is clearly Weeks. People keep making the Robin Yount SS to CF comp with Green, but Yount was a better hitter than Green, and he was still an awful outfielder. It just makes sense.
As for the pitching staff, it seems fine to me. I’d sign McCarthy to a three year deal or something. I’d also sign Harden to another one-year deal. The only thing I’d like to see is FDLS stretched out and either moved into a Sunday starter role, or long relief with the intention of eventually moving him into the rotation. Someone made this point the other day: FDLS isn’t like Bailey in the sense that he was tried at SP and couldn’t handle it. He was converted to relief because they needed to protect him from the Rule 5 and this shortened his path to the MLB. He’s too good to leave in relief. Just switch him and Moscoso. I’d bring Outman up, too.
S1: Cahill
S2: Gonzalez
S3: McCarthy
S4: Outman
S5: Harden
Sun6: FDLS
That means the bullpen looks the same except for less Norberto, who isn’t that good anyway.
uhh i dont think FDLS was a rule 5 draft pick
he was in the Chicago trade
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No, we needed to protect him
That is, you only get a certain number of season after signing an amateur before you either put him on the 40 (and use an option) or expose him to the Rule 5 draft. I think Beane et al thought that FDLS could reasonably take a 40-man spot and get on the 25-man roster as a reliever, but not as a starter, after surgery.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Uhm you can put him on the 40 man and leave him in the minors.
It happens all the time.
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A player on the 40 who's in the minors is using an option.
That’s what an option year is: a year when a player is on the 40 and is on a minor-league team. Wikipedia describes it:
If a player is on the 40-man roster but not on the active major league roster, he is said to be on optional assignment—his organization may freely move him between the major league club and the minor league club. If a player is on the 40-man roster and not the active 25 man roster for any part of more than three seasons (in which he spent 20 or more total days of service in the minors), he is out of options and may not be assigned to the minors without first clearing waivers. However, if a player has less than 5 years of professional experience, he may be optioned to the minors in a fourth season without being subject to waivers. If a major league player is ineligible for free agency and “has options” remaining, his team may option him to a minor league team without consequence. This is usually what is meant when players are “sent down” to the minors. Likewise, when a player on the 40-man roster is added to the active major league roster, he is “called up” to the majors.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
I understand option years,
that doesn’t negate anything, FDLS hasn’t been on the 25 man all year, so he’s used an option anyway. I dont get it still.
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The point is that he is legitimately ready to be a ML reliever right now
I think they believed that it would have taken him much longer to become a major-league starter — so that they would have had to either expose him to Rule 5 or call him up prematurely and have him suck as a starter or pitch out of the bullpen anyway while burning a 25-man spot.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
That doesn't make any sense.
They didn’t have to call him up this year! or next!
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They're thinking for future years.
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except it doesnt matter
since i’m pretty sure he used an option anyway this year.
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What part of future do you not understand?
They don’t want to run out of options before he’s ready. Yes, of course they use an option this year. That is unavoidable. That’s part of why there’s a threat of running out before he’s ready.
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oh so we're just using him for something instead of possibly nothing at all?
okay… got it.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Huh??
Let’s go over this again:
1. FDLS was signed in December 2005.
2. He was 19 years old, so he has four seasons before he is eligible for the Rule 5 draft. Those four years are 2006-2009.
3. Starting in 2010 he is Rule 5 eligible, so to protect him you have to put him on the 40-man roster.
4. Every year he spends on the 40-man roster where he is not also on the 25-man roster for the full year uses up an option year. He gets three option years. Those are 2010-2012.
5. Once he’s out of options, he can’t be sent down without clearing waivers. On the current path, FDLS will be out of options in 2013.
The assertion is that the A’s feel that if FDLS is redeveloped as a starter, he may not be ready to be on the active roster all year by 2013, whereas as a reliever he will.
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Fine i agree with that.
But the original poster wants to redevelop him as a starter now. It’s the original comment that im confused about, not his options.
The only thing I’d like to see is FDLS stretched out and either moved into a Sunday starter role, or long relief with the intention of eventually moving him into the rotation
that is what i was confused about in the first place.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Oh, I didn't catch that.
Yeah, you’re right. I think Nate’s plan to switch FDLS back to starter would re-introduce the problem.
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FDLS running out of options
before he’s ready to be on the roster all year.
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Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
That's why I was suggesting
doing the conversion process in Oakland. Either as long relief to stretch him out during the season, or stretch him out in the spring and use him as a Sunday starter to keep his load light. I don’t want to send him to the minors.
Exception for post-DL rehab assignments, of course
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
I'll buy that.
Does Conor Jackson count as an option for #7 if Barton isn’t healthy?
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Being fast in CF is actually not very logical.
Having a feel for routes and knowing when to take the smartest route to the ball is much more important. Mark Kotsay when he was healthy was never an extremely fast guy, and in fact was an awful basestealer. But my god that guy knew how to play CF before he started getting hurt.
Weeks is as close to a highlight reel as we can get at 2B. Keep it as is and try to teach CF to Green, who has great instincts,.
Okay.
But Green’s been playing CF for like, two weeks now. If you started teaching Weeks right now, they’d probably be at least even on basic ball-reading and route-running. Weeks still has an edge with his speed.
Plus
you know his hat would come flying off all the time running after balls, and the dreads would be flowing in the wind.
ie AWESOME
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His dreads look awesome flying around turning a double play too
If you want to see that, just go watch McCutchen.
But seriously
The kid needs a chin strap. If he’s on the basepaths doing anything but walking, that helmet comes flying off.
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i'm fine with that.
who really needs a helmet running the bases anyway?
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THIS GUY
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"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
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I give it a 7
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style points
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He handled that pretty gracefully under the circumstances
by Glorious Mundy on Aug 1, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Indeed. A fine performance.
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Especially
if Dwayne Murphy how to wear his hat. I loved that – his hat came off pretty much every time he moved.
by longtimeasfan on Aug 1, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Speed helps, but is not determinative
Vince Coleman was a speedburner, but a godawful LF. Jim Edmunds stole 67 bases and hit 25 triples in 17 seasons, but was a very, very good CF. Dwayne Murphy was still good after he slowed down as a runner, too.
Another contrast: Hendu vs. Polonia.
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I know this, but think of how many fast outfielders are better than slow outfielders.
I think Green’s inaccurate arm would be better served closer to 1B, but that’s just me.
One thing in favor of Weeks moving to CF
is that he doesn’t look great at 2B. But from the reports on Green and his footwork/throwing issues, it sounds like the right move was to put Green in the OF rather than messing with Weeks’ position as well as Green’s.
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One thing against Weeks moving to center
is that he has a terrible arm.
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It's also a good reason not to move him to 2B
Aw, crap.
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he needs a good arm at 2b?
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It sure helps.
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Relative to other positions on the field (other than 1B) it is of little importance
Perhaps a wash with LF, but less important than all the rest.
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Players move to 2nd base because they don't have good arms
That’s why Ellis played there
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I know.
Doesn’t mean a better arm isn’t better. It’s like 1B defense: You can get away with meh defense better there than you can at SS or CF, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t great to have a good defensive player at 1B.
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I wonder if we are confusing two different things here.
There are two aspects of a “good arm”, ability to throw that far and ability to throw accurately. Ellis was moved to 2B because his arm was weak, not because it was inaccurate.
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thats what i mean
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
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Unfortunately, so far Weeks' arm appears to fail both ways
Luckily, not horribly, but I wouldn’t say “arm strength” or “accuracy” has been good.
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I think he's been fine overall
He has lapses here and there but most young players do. I think he can improve to be an avg to above avg fielder. Remember he didn’t play as much as you might think in the minors because of all the injuries.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
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Every throw he makes scares me
And that’s a stat.
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TTSNAR?
Throws That Scare Nico Above Replacement?
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I still don't get this.
His arm isn’t accurate enough for SS, so let’s move him to CF where he has to make even longer throws.
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To the cutoff man?
I don’t think there are many, if any, outfielders who could make a ~400ft throw to home which is why a CF arm is not as important. You always are going to need a cutoff man.
Cardenas!!!! WoooooooooooooHOOOOOOOOO
except when you don't
like throwing to third on a base hit, or home on a short fly or base hit, or to second on a single trying to be stretched
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I'm pretty sure the strength is not in question
but his footwork is, and that causes him to make inaccurate throws.
Well he's going to have to learn a completely new set of footwork.
Crow hops and the like. He’s also going to have to teach himself how to read balls off the bat. It might take longer than people expect.
positioning and such, sure
but Coco is being brutalized every game out there because he has a weak arm. He is still a good centerfielder apparently, but still
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I understand that, actually.
I was much more accurate from the outfield than the infield when I threw. It was just easier to line up from there.
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Even still, I'll offer a tweak to this plan:
I know the Weeks conversion to CF is an unlikely one. It doesn’t make sense to me, but okay. Since I don’t think Green or Choice are long term options at CF, I think it would be wise to acquire a decent CF prospect. At least one who’s going to stay in CF for a while.
I would target Anthony Gose. If you’ll remember, the A’s moved Holiday for Wallace (plus), then Wallace to the Jays for Taylor. The Jays then flipped Wallace to Houston for Anthony Gose, who was a solid but not great, high-risk CF prospect. The Jays now have a full outfield of excellent young players in Rasmus, Snider and Thames, so Gose is pretty much blocked.
The Jays could use relief help, especially since they just lost Frasor and Rzepczynski in the Rasmus trade. A healthy Devine and a lower prospect could get the job done. Or possibly Krol for him straight up, since Toronto did the good prospect for good prospect thing (Wallace-Taylor) with us last year. Or, if you want to get crazy, offer them Bailey for Gose, Travis D’Arnaud, and a pitching prospect.
I like this.
Gose looks like the truth. Another guy who they might be into moving is Adam Lind, as they plan on getting into the Prince/Pujols sweeps. They also have David Cooper at 1B, who was their 1st rd pick in 2008. They certainly have players we need. I think D’Arnaud is fairly untouchable though.
Its funny to me that Arencibia hits just Kurt Suzuki just with more dingers.
They have Arencibia at catcher, though, who's serviceable and young and cheap.
The only player I’d imagine is untouchable in their system is Brett Lawrie. BA’s midseason list ranked Erlin the 34th best prospect. D’Arnaud was 29th, so this is a relatively similar deal to the one Texas offered up, depending on the third prospect. I think it’s reasonable, though I’ll admit the Krol idea probably was not.
Arencibia isnt very good though.
He looks a little shaky right now, its just a smart move for them to move D’Arnaud (who was a big piece of the Halladay trade IIRC) while Arecibia is potentially not as good as D’Arnaud. I mean Im not saying it wont happen, but I don’t see the logic in them making that move.
Yeah, I'm just thinking that's it's trading from positions of depth.
But forget the catchers, Gose is the only one I really want. Suzuki’s still serviceable.
Lets also be wary of AA
He’s fast becoming the best GM in the game. Also thing about Gose is that he’s 20, meaning he will be 23 and a good shot at being “ready” when Rasmus’s contract is over. They probably won’t move him either.
Isn't Arencibia the one who is close buddies with Gio?
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I'm afraid to trade with Toronto.
Seems like those guys win every trade.
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Anthopoulos and Beane are friends.
I don’t think they’d try to fuck each other too bad. They need relief help, which we have. We need a young CF’er, which they have. It’s depth for depth.
Also, most people seem to agree that the Wallace-Taylor swap favored the A’s. Wallace made it to the majors earlier, but he’s basically been a replacement player, and he’s just been sent down to AAA. So that’s more or less fair. The Rajai Davis trade was also more or less fair.
I don't think GMs go into most trade negotiations with the idea of fucking the other side over
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I was just being silly.
I’m not actually afraid to trade with Toronto. I just think it’s funny how GMs supposedly used to be afraid to trade with Beane, and now supposedly they’re afraid to trade with AA.
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Ah. I don't think GMs are actually afraid.
Fans on the other hand… and actually I don’t blame them. Living near St. Louis, I have a slight interest in the Cardinals, and you could watch the emotions change as trade talks went on.
From, “Ha, we’ll never trade Rasmus,” to “Why would we trade Rasmus?” to “Edwin Jackson? We shouldn’t have to give up Rasmus for him,” and eventually to, “God has forsaken us.” I’d be pretty furious if Beane did something like that, but I doubt GMs actually give it a second thought.
Rajai deal worked out fine.
Purcey deal worked out fine.
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This
Weeks is as close to a highlight reel as we can get at 2B. Keep it as is and try to teach CF to Green, who has great instincts
It’s not like Green projected well as a 2Bman. Plus, I’d rather take my chances with Rosales at SS if anywhere. Penny’s only valuable if he plays plus-plus defense, and notwithstanding this hot streak, is one logical place for upgrade
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by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd love to upgrade shortstop but there aren't really a lot of reasonably priced,
MLB ready shortstops out there. They’re hard to find.
Rosales is the only real option
Which is why I’d love to see it.
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by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't want to see Rosales
with a regular starting spot on the A’s. I’ve just never been impressed and really don’t see him as an upgrade over Pennington whatsoever.
by longtimeasfan on Aug 1, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
This stretch is the best we may ever see him
If Allen, Carter, and Taylor all mash it doesn’t matter. With the current slate of players, it does.
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by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I think
Pennington wasnt as bad as he was in the first 2-3 months, and isnt as good as he is now. He’s most likely going to be close to the player he was in 2010 going forward.
I think that has a lot to do with who's on 1B
Barton at his golden gloved best = less Penny errors. Penny’s range has always been his strength too, and having nice range can hurt you by getting to grounders that Jeter can’t get to and then a bounced or slightly inaccurate throw and boom another error.
Being fast has a lot more to do with being good in CF than anything else
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Sigh.
Someday her tombstone will read,
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I want to see Brandon Allen playing 1B tonight! Not in Sacramento.
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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Aug 1, 2011 1:59 PM PDT reply actions
Me too, but unless the A's
send down Sogard along with another reliever and recall Rosales, it won’t happen.
Can anyone give any info on these prospects
Don’t really hear about these guys on here, are they simply fodder having a good year, or do they have MLB ceilings?
Ryan Ortiz, C
Jose Guzman, Closer
Michael Spina, 1B
Dan Straily, SP
Robert Gilliam, SP
Also are any of these guys we have in rookie ball highly thought of?
Kelvin, Rojas, CF, Renaldo Mateo, C & Vicmal De La Cruz, RF, Josh Leyland, 1B
Any info is appreciated!
i know paul thomas really liked ortiz, but i have no info. you might be able to search for his thoughts in the past.
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Ortiz has kinda slowed down from what i remember.
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slowed down to a... 143 wRC+ in AA...?
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Haha nvm then!
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I'm excited about him.
He has handled the transition to AA gracefully. Any word on his defense?
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last i heard, PT thought he was a left fielder eventually
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Wasn't that about 18 months ago, though?
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Oh, thought it was Feb 2010.
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Call them all up and see what we have.
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Interesting. I think the only videos I've seen from Ortiz
were pre-draft scouting videos, but I remember him being slow as hell. If he can’t handle catching, LF would be fine with me. He’s still an excellent hitter.
I think of those top 5, Ortiz is the one (and probably only one) to watch
Vicmal de la Cruz could be awesome, but is still only 18 (was 16 when he signed, IIRC).
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I would need to see something special before I put that kid in the 3 hole
Frankly, this all went down when I was traveling, but as I follow the Snakes a bit – I can say that they speak of him much like we speak of Carter. All the potential to be a power monster but needs to prove it.
Baja been here
Nice approach
Nice approach to viewing the trade and the proper invitation to the organization in showing confidence in Allen and the young outfielders we have in the system. But, and I am jumping for past midstream in this post, I have to wonder generally speaking that does another set-up man get you those returns? If so, fine, but first base is traditionally where the cornerstone of a team’s offense derives, and no offense personally, but it’s been since McGwire/Giambi since we had the protoypical power first baseman. I am glad that Michael Taylor is becoming what we hope he will be. Nice post since sober and obejctive inventory of who we have is where you begin to build, but the franchise needs help and I think it begins with Jemile Weeks, Kurt Suzuki, Josh Willingham and Cliff Pennington if he proves to be the type of hitter he has been since All-Star break. Pitching is another topic.
Brandon Allen is so strong
he once bunted for a home run
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im thinking about starting a post for these...
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do it
Did you know, the guys at Fangraphs are so scared of Brandon Allen, they almost changed BABIP to Brandon-Allen-esque Bitchslapping and Intimidation of Pitchers
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by darooster on Aug 1, 2011 2:52 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
BA doesn't stand for Batting Average
It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today.
"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King
by YonYonson on Aug 1, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
That is fantastic.
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Thank you, all
"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King
yep. for reals.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
This is going to be my new sig
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
and voilà
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
Brandon Allen es no semi-pro
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
it's up.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
OT
Did anyone just get an email from a Michael Rogers with a YouTube link entitled “Giants Vs A’s (Fan Edition)”
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
Yup.
Haven’t looked at it. Should I?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
It appears to be innocuous
I opened it up on my iPhone to make sure, but it’s just a bunch of A’s and Giants fans making derogatory comments about the other team and each other.
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
SFGate comments
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
White Rabbit
In honor of Cahill, here is George Benson bringing the funk on “White Rabbit.” It’s a little schmaltzy at the beginning, but it is overall an awesome track: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUuDAOaBT64
2B: Weeks
After that, who knows.
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
1B: Barton
Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli
...and 3rd: KOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUZ!
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
3rd base coach you mean
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, yeah Sizemore is just the ticket.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
My honest prediction is that Sizemore will all but be handed the job next year
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
And with his return to his career numbers,
I see no advantage of fielding him over Kouz. Yes, Scott has the job, but he isn’t an improvement.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
What career numbers?
He’s got 100 games under his belt, it’s not like he’s been around for years and this is his first good season. Seriously, look at the man’s minor league numbers. They’re excellent. The lowest wOBA he’s ever posted was in 2007, and it was .357. He’s really not doing anything outrageous.
There is absolutely no point to make yet about Scott Sizemore's career MLB numbers
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There is nothing wrong with Kouz' minor league numbers either.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Just that he used to be an MLB player
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Except for the fact he was so bad here he's back in the minors at age 29
But it’s better than him stinking in Triple-A.
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and he's doing worse now than he did before...at a much older age
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Let me get this straight...
We can’t compare MiLB numbers, because Kouz used to be in the majors. But, we can’t compare MLB numbers, because Sizemore hasn’t played enough games. Kind of convenient.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Why doesn't that make sense?
If you repeat the 8th grade and you’re 15, you shouldn’t be considered to be on the same level as someone who completes it on schedule.
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
oh and he's doing worse in the 8th grade now than the first time he was there
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LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!!!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
That's really not at all what anyone here is saying
But if you want to go that route:
Kouzmanoff: 645 G, 2571 PA over more than four seasons
Sizemore: 108 G, 401 PA over two seasons so far (and last year came in three different stints in the bigs)
You tell me which one has more of a track record in the Majors and which one is still developing one.
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I saying to compare their MLB records.
The extent of their career doesn’t matter. Sizemore started out great!! Now that he has come down off the honeymoon high, their MLB numbers aren’t that different.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
(Part of that is Sizemore's ability to actually draw walks)
And yes, the extents of their careers do matter.
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The what now?
Sizemore’s entire season with the A’s is a 111 wRC+. Kouzmanoff has NEVER had a season that high, and his whole career with the A’s is an 81. In other words, Sizemore has been 11% better than league average with the A’s, and Kouzmanoff has been 19% worse.
How come his time with Detroit is always ignored?
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Because it was 65 games, which he hasn't even equaled in Oakland yet?
Which is also why I’m saying we can’t put too much stock yet into what he’s even doing here, but at least it’s better than what Kouz has done.
The guy doesn’t even have a real MLB track record yet. That’s the whole point.
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Because dan is picking Sizemore's best years and Kouz' worst.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
it's not ignored. sizemore's first year in the majors was as good as kouzmanoff's this year.
and sizemore got better. kouzmanoff has gottern worse every year.
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Trend analysis is never a good way to go, though.
Just weight the years, with the recent ones counting more.
True
But you do need to account for aging
Kouz, at 29, is already on the downslope
Sizemore at 26 could still improve a bit
So if you have similar player, having the younger one is better (and cheaper). In terms of surplus value Sizemore crushes Kouz.
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I have no problem with this.
It doesn’t show that Scott is better than Kouz. ONLY that you are gambling that Sizemore will be better, and Kouz can’t come back. This is speculation.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Fair enough.
I do think that Kouz is worth hanging onto, because we have no one in the system that can compare to him. This includes Rosales and CoJack as everyday 3rd basemen.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
What do you do with him, though?
Try to keep him stashed in the minors? MLB backup? If Sizemore proves he can handle 3B, I’m leaving him there at this point.
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If need be, yes.
If he can’t get a gig via free agency, sign him.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
And this ain't a bad option to have
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
What happens to him salary-wise
He’s already in arbitration.
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And, further, someone who's got a few years of experience in the bigs and is sent down for sucking...
…is not in the same situation as someone who’s younger than him, has played very well in the minors, and is getting his first real everyday look in the bigs.
No comparison, sorry.
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No, he was a monster in the minors.
I’m not arguing against Kouzmanoff. I was one of the few people who defended him on AN last year. He sucks to watch but he gets shit done. Either way, Sizemore has been better than him this year. It’s his job to lose.
Not the position. The base.
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He means Oakland, not Sacramento
Don’t hurt me.
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10 SHINKICKS FOR YOU
Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli
2B Weeks, SS Penny, C Suzuki are locks
3B Sizemore is a near-lock.
CoJack IMO is a near-lock for a roster spot but not sure 1B or OF, starting or bench.
DDJ will not be back unless he qualifies as type B, the A’s offer him arb, and he accepts. Otherwise I don’t see that happening.
I believe Sweeney will be on the roster as well.
Matsui will not be back.
Coco, Willingham, Barton, Allen, Miller, Taylor, Carter, CoJack, Sweeney, Rosales, Sogard, will fight over all 3 OF spots, DH, 1B, 2 bench OF spots, 1 bench util spot.
We’ll know a lot more depending on how the Sept call ups do.
by Billy Frijoles on Aug 1, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think Pennington's a "lock"
If the A’s see a chance to get a better SS, I’d think they’ll kick the tires. Whereas they won’t be looking at 2Bmen because of Weeks.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Suzuki isn't either.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
how so?
We have no one better than him in the system, and we’re not gonna break the bank signing a free agent catcher when that is not really a hole we have to fill.
by Billy Frijoles on Aug 1, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
If he continues this performance for another year, i dont think they go with him again.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
good god, I hope we are done after this month (checks calendar hopes its still July)
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
I believe he is second on the team in WAR
Coco is first.
Hardly seems like that would be the first place to look for an upgrade.
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i dont think thats a good judgement of his value.
other players have had less time contributing, and Suzuki gets the bonus cuz he’s a catcher. Where does he rank compared to all the other catchers?
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
That's right, he gets the bonus because he's a catcher.
He gets the bonus so you can easily compare him to all other players.
his RC+ is like 78
and catcher WAR is suspect because of the whole catcher defense thing.
He can;t throw anyone out and a bunch of other measures has him bad at blocking the plate.
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
Yeah, I'd be perfectly happy with dealing Suzuki this offseason to someone who thinks he's still good
and letting Donaldson/Recker/Powell handle the C duties.
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Good point.
Quantification of catcher defense is relatively young. As a WAR component it’s even more uncertain than regular defense.
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Depends whether or not Pennington is running.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
don't you mean if Weeks is running
I mean, oversliding the bases
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"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
i am not the guy to answer, but i am sure it is really hard to figure out
there are so many factors. People don’t run and Braden or Greggles because of their moves and I think Cahill is easy to run on. Plus almost no reliever os good at holding runners.
I am sure smarty pants math types can give an unsatisfying answer. Like Suzuki = 8
but most catcher defense studies (on BTBS and the like ) don’tlike Kurt. (or jeff mathis interestingly)
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
If Jeff Mathis is bad at defense
then he must be the worst big league ballplayer of all time.
by Glorious Mundy on Aug 1, 2011 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Its one of those head scratcher thing
grain of salt and all
There is just no way to trust any catcher defense model that is easily accessible. I don’t know if this that I linked is trust worthy, there are lots of unexpected things there and samples are so tiny.
We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley
It's not like we have a huge C prospect waiting in the wings.
Besides, he’s locked down until 2013, and we owe him $12.01MM until then.
Actually, we have lots of C prospects!
I just wish we had a few more C+ ones.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Ba dum dum
But seriously folks…
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I would play both Donaldson and Ortiz over him next year
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
I don't think he's saying he'd play Ortiz over Ortiz.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
how so?
We have no one better than him in the system, and we’re not gonna break the bank signing a free agent catcher when that is not really a hole we have to fill.
by Billy Frijoles on Aug 1, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Rollins is a pipe dream and there are no upgrades out there.
Penny was a lock coming into this season, and at this point given that his recent streak has brought his numbers back to respectability there is no reason to think he won’t have the job next year.
Maybe they’ll find a way to get a good SS in the minor league system but Penny’s job is safe.
by Billy Frijoles on Aug 1, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think he's a pipe dream
He may or may not be a good expenditure of “real FA dollars” but of all the good FAs out there I’d rank him right at the top for “possible signability”.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Everyone should have a look at Marine Layer's epic Lew Wolff interview
PART I is up at newballpark.org
"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto
And then everyone should donate and get the full thing now.
by LoneStranger on Aug 1, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
indeed
"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto
by emperor nobody on Aug 1, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: Bye Bye Splat
The Rays have acquired Matt Carson from the Athletics according to the Triple-A Pacific Coast League transactions page.
Hopefully he doesn’t rake for them.
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
THIS IS SO SAD.
Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli
G_S will be sad
That’s like his idol
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
His eyebrows. His splat. This is a sad day for Bay Area baseball.
Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli
He made it on an MLBN bloopers/collisions show I was watching a few weeks ago
At least he made his mark in MLB. And the Coli wall.
"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Aug 1, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
He is a super nice guy, as well.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
He is.
Don’t care so much for his wife though.
Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli
Is she hawt?
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I don't remember
but he was signing a ball for my cousin so I said thank you and she said you’re welcome. He didn’t even get the chance to say anything. It was so awkward/
Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli
preemptive strick!
Don't let your alligator mouth bite off more than your humminbird butt can back up. Dr. Phil.
That seems like a lot to read into a two word interaction with the two of them
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She said really snobby.
I can’t convey HOW she said, just what she said.
Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli
I never talked to him
He always seemed quiet and the sort who kept to himself.
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I don't know he wife.
The Mrs and I spoke with Matt at ST 2010. He was very gracious towards the opportunities the A’s gave him.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Do we have any Matts left?
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 1, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
There's still Thomson, the guy PT (or dfa?) fawned over last season.
He’s on Burlington’s roster, though he’s injured now.
We definitely need to trade for Tuiasosopo.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Good!
Carson isn’t worthless (always had nice numbers in AAA), but I’d much much rather give his OF playing time to some combination of Miller, Mitchell, Taylor, etc.
Well, at 30yo he's just depth.
Certainly should not be blocking anyone.
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Thanks
I’m guessing they did this to allow Allen some playing time in the outfield. It would be nice to get Cardenas more starts in the outfield too.
by Glorious Mundy on Aug 1, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
With Timmons in Midland and Sogard in Oakland I assume he will continue to
get the majority of his starts at 2B.
Cardenas at DH never made much sense to me.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
I give Bush some credit for pretty much handing out regular ABs to everyone
with the roster crunch that was/is there. When Cardenas was DHing Sogard and Timmons were playing the MI for the most part.
It doesn't make sense to anybody really.
But Cardenas isn’t doing a whole lot right now. He’s blocked at several positions by people that are better than him. Hard to see him as more of a backup right now.
What about 1B?
No Barton — wouldn’t this be a perfect chance to play Allen at 1B? Seems like the A’s are really gung ho on the whole “Allen in the OF” thing.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
seriously.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Man, that guy had grit
I mean, he’d run through a wall for you.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
And Braden would toe the line
Not that he could feel that…
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
about time
he has taken away PT from far too many players.
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
(playing time, not Paul Thomas)
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
Important Stow beating witness dies suddenly of food allergy
According to law enforcement sources familiar with the case, Matthew Lee died Sunday after eating a salad that apparently contained nuts, which caused the allergic reaction. The coroner has not determined a cause of death, however.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/08/key-witness-in-bryan-stow-beating-dies-suddenly.html
This sounds like a joke -- but is actually not funny at all
…this Stow thing is like a farce version of L.A. Confidential.
by SteveMcPhatty on Aug 1, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
That's...scary.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
holy shit
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
I'm definitely ordering the soup tonight
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
So we lose Willie Eyre and Matt Carson on the same day
Hope that frees up 2 spots on the Rivercats for KURT SUZUKI and Conor Jackson.
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Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time
by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Aug 1, 2011 4:47 PM PDT reply actions
Ok, so they have only 1 position player in bench.
I believe some promotions in Double A are in order (Peterson, perhaps)
I'm late to the party
but under no circumstances should the A’s peg Sweeney as a starter next season. He’s a perfect 4th OF.
I view Chris Carter as trade bait. He’s gone. He’s this year’s Mazzaro. Dropping stock, org doesn’t like him, etc.
Deal Carter for an OF, preferrably Carlos Quentin. Maybe not straight up, but use Carter to get guys to ship off to CHI for Quentin. Replace Sweeney with Quentin and your plan is gold. 3-4 of Quentin-Willingham is fantastic.
Carter and Quentin would never be traded for each other.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I love these trades!
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Ha
That’s why I said not directly. Can’t imagine the White Sox will revert that trade straight up 4 years later.
by BWH on Aug 1, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not sure how down the A's are on Carter overall
I think they’re coming to the epiphany that he’s a DH, which just puts them 2 years behind everyone who has eyes, but I don’t know that they’ve given up on him being a good DH.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
If they sign Willingham to DH,
then it will show the A’s are down on Carter. That they acquired Allen, and wanted Lars Anderson, shows that they don’t think much of him. The way they stuck him on the bench when he came up briefly isn’t a sign that the A’s don’t know how to develop players, it showed that they didn’t trust Carter to face ML pitching.
I think there’s a surplus of Chris Carters in the organization right now, and he’ll be the first name mentioned in trade talks if they want to upgrade for 2012 via trade.
by BWH on Aug 1, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
My thinking is that if they sign Willingham,
it won’t be “to DH” but rather to hit and play where he fits. The older he gets the less he’ll be able to play in the field, but whether he plays LF in 2012 might depend a lot on who else the A’s have in the OF.
Meanwhile, I saw the pursuit of L. Anderson as saying more about Barton than Carter, and I saw the acquisition of Allen as saying more about the A’s thinking he’s a good player to get than anything.
So many positions are in flux amongst 1B, COF, and DH with Willingham, Carter, Allen (and Barton, Taylor). I think the A’s opinion is just: “The 3 guys who can hit big league pitching will have spots.” And that’s as it should be.
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I'd still
much rather have one year of Quentin plus his likely type A status than Chris Carter.
by BWH on Aug 1, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm assuming that if a Quentin-Carter deal were on the table,
it’s CHI that would say “no thanks”.
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the white sox already traded him once for carlos quentin
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I know.
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As I said earlier...
Maybe not straight up, but use Carter to get guys to ship off to CHI for Quentin.
There’s gotta be a way to use Carter to acquire Quentin. Maybe Carter (or whatever he’s traded for) alone won’t get it done, but it wouldn’t take a whole lot more and it’s a start.
by BWH on Aug 1, 2011 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
You think Seattle would want Carter?
I could see Baltimore wanting him too.
by BWH on Aug 1, 2011 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Why are we trading Carter again?
His value couldn’t be lower right now. He’s the type of guy the A’s have been targeting lately. Sorta stalled in AAA, mistreated by MLB club. I’d be trying to acquire guys like that, not trade them for Carlos Quentin.
'cause he can't play defense
anywhere. And the organization seems to be cool on him, and where there’s smoke there’s fire. And because if we want to extend Willingham (which I do, and which this post plans on) then we’ll have to give him 100 games a year at DH. And because I have serious doubts about his ability to hit major league pitching.
by BWH on Aug 1, 2011 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
then we’ll have to give him 100 games a year at DH
“him” means Willingham.
by BWH on Aug 1, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Because he can't play defense anywhere?
And you want to trade him for Carlos Quentin? His career UZR/150 is -9.1.
Something seems wrong here.
Well
-9 is still gonna be better than anything Carter is capable of. And I trust Carlos Quentin to more than make up for that with the bat, because unlike Carter he’s proven he can hit ML pitching.
Quentin is a bad fielder and very good hitter.
Carter is a horrendous fielder, and odds that he’s anything other than a bad hitter are seeming pretty low.
by BWH on Aug 1, 2011 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, upon researching it
Quentin’s been slightly above average with the glove in a SSS this season. His career defensive numbers seem weighed down by his historically bad 2010 defensive numbers.
I don’t think he’s that bad with the glove. His actual defensive skills probably lie within the range of his average-ish 2011 and his horrific, Manny Ramirez-esque 2010. Probably a -7 or so with the glove.
Wow, you're really
writing Carter off after 110 major league ABs. That’s absurd. Quentin’s defense is not only “weighed down” by his historically bad 2010 season, but let’s not forget his also horrendous 2009. He’s been okay this year, but his -30 UZR/150 between 2010 and 2009 is downright terrifying.
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Nice.
Ballsy.
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So you're saying the Blue Jays were feeling
buy polar?
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He doesn't lack for ballsy, that's for sure.
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listening to knbr for some reason. listening to tolbert talk makes me dumber.
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You're not very good at this, are you?
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Why trade for Allen, when we can sign...
Albert Pujols!
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
He'd obviously run this team better than BB.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
kids got 3 dingers in 11 games. he'd rank 10 on our team. let's give him a bit of a chance.
and only 1 of the 3 has landed
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What encourages me is that even in his "failed" cups of coffee
he has had a good OBP and a good AB/HR ratio.
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i very much agree. this kid should be up now and playing everyday. but a's baseball involves breaking prospects apparently
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We don't really know yet that the A's are doing anything we don't want them to do
We’ve heard he’s reporting to SAC and will be here “soon”. For all we know, he’ll be called up in 4 days to join the team in Tampa. Maybe the A’s feel they need the extra reliever for a few days until the off-day Thursday, who knows.
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That is exactly what we did with Sizemore.
by Billy Frijoles on Aug 1, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
but at the time, something needed to be done with kouz. i don't sense there's the urgency to do something with conor jackson or an outfielder..
my gut is that brandon allen will be up after we expand the rosters later this year.
the mariners offense is clearly not good, so why the extra reliever? dunno.
i don’t know why prospects seems to suffer after they get to the a’s, but there’s a pretty good list of prospects whose progress has been slowed and promise has gone unfulfilled (barton, cardenas, taylor, carter). there are others, but that’s a pretty good list.
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matt carson traded to the rays
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
I like to go with the all-in, never will happen in real life scenario
CC opts out of NY, and we pay him the big bucks to come here.
We sign Prince to a big deal.
We assign an extra million to the clubhouse buffet budget.
Sign Michael Cuddyer
Trade Andrew Bailey to Cincinatti for Dave Sappelt, Travis Wood, and Nick Masset
Let Willingham walk, take the picks.
Resign Crisp.
Resign McCarthy (or offer him arb, whichever it is)
Resign Harden to close.
Go with
1. Weeks 2B
2. Crisp CF
3. Cuddyer 3B
4. Fielder 1B
5. Sweeney RF
6. Carter/Allen DH (let them decide who gets the job in an old fashion knife fight)
7. Sappelt LF
8. Suzuki C
9. Pennington SS
Bench: Sizemore, Rosales, Jai Miller, Josh Donaldson/Landon Powell/Terry Steinbach
It’s a pretty brutal infield defense, but with Sappelt in LF, its the best defensive OF in all of the majors. You got speed at the top with Weeks and Crisp, speed at the bottom with Sappelt and Pennington. You got more black guys. Cuddyer can pitch in the bullpen if need be. And Harden, aka Mr. Glass, can come out to Stone Cold Steve Austins old theme music with the window breaking sound effect at the beginning.
The rotation:
CC Sabathia
Trevor Cahill
Gio Gonzalez
Brandon McCarthy
Travis Wood
Bullpen
I don’t feel like looking at contracts, but it’s anchored by Balfour, Harden, Devine, Masset, and the ghost of Mr. Perfect.
Please don’t take this post seriously, I just have too much time on my hands, and I just witnessed the A’s boner of a first inning.
I Quite Like That Lineup
Not saying that Barton’s days are over, but we can’t keep platooning at first, hoping that either Barton or Carter will come through. That’s why the Allen trade is good, especially since we couldn’t finish the Harden deal. And if Brandon can come through and be a guy who hits 20-30 homers, then we could couple him with Willingham and Taylor next year to have some real power in the lineup.
I’m also for signing Crisp. He’s great at the top of the lineup with Weeks, and is a fun guy. Crisp has a great personality, a bit like Nick Swisher and we need guys like that on the team. Plus, when healthy, he can steal 30-40 bases and hit .270 with plenty of runs scored.
However, is Sizemore rally a multi-year option at third. How about looking into a guy like David Wright or Kevin Youkilis. I know those are both long shots, but we could try.
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