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McCarthyism Alive and Well in Oakland

"My wife has a drinking game based on my strikeouts today, swing at this Twinkie!"  (Photo by Jed Jacobsohn/Getty Images)


Final - 7.31.2011 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
Minnesota Twins 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 11 0
Oakland Athletics 0 0 6 1 0 0 0 0 X 7 11 0
WP: Brandon McCarthy (4 - 5)                      
LP: Carl Pavano (6 - 8)


 

Several relievers pitched in todays game: Andrew Bailey, Grant Balfour, Craig Breslow, Matt Capps, Phil Dumatrait and Joe Nathan all took the mound. None of them had anything to do with this game which was a battle between Brandon McCarthy and Carl Pavano. A battle that McCarthy handily won. 

McCarthy who came into today's game with a 5.7 K/9 instead pitched at a more Fautino De Los Santosesque 13.5 K/9 today striking out nine in his six innings of work, without walking a soul. He featured pinpoint control in the game throwing 109 pitches but only 24 for balls. After a tough first inning where he was victimized by bloops, seeing eye singles against a shift all the sort of unfortunate hits which he was been unlucky against all this season  - he let in two runs. Following that he battened down with the only blemish being a third inning solo shot to Thome (#597 on his career). 

Star-divide

Carl Pavano on the other hand came in with terrible numbers and left with them even worse, going four innings, while striking out just one (Jemile Weeks on a very questionable strike three looking as the first out of the ballgame) walking two and allowing a mere, seven earned runs on nine hits (seven of which came as a part of a back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back hit sequence). The other notable aspect of Pavano's performance was his and Drew Butera's complete inability to stop the running game as Coco Crisp stole three and Jemile Weeks one off the battery mates. If the A's had sent Josh Willingham or Hideki Matsui there is still a good chance they too could've stolen third with the way these two held runners on.

Overall, the A's offense looked really good against Carl Pavano but really bad against everyone else managing just two hits off the other Twins hurlers. The A's did not manage a single home run so elcroata wins one point in his favor for saying HR's don't matter as much as an overall high SLG or wOBA does and that 5 $20s does get you $100 - today at least. 

On the defensive side of the ball career second baseman Scott Sizemore looked even better at third than we have seen as he made some nice picks. He was aided by Conor Jackson who often looked equally improved digging some balls out of the ground and handling short hops well to preserve the outs on Sizemore's snags. 

A's win the series and everyone else in the AL West has lost, meaning the A's find themselves in third place 11 1/2 behind the Rangers, 9 1/2 behind the Angels and 3 1/2 ahead of the M's who we see next in the Pacific Northwest. 

Thank you everyone for my first Sunday! It has been fun and I appreciate the support and the highlighting of my being an idiot who can't link things well. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. LETS GO OAKLAND!

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AW, his first recap

and a happy one it is

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by emperor nobody on Jul 31, 2011 4:22 PM PDT reply actions  

fun game to listen to with my mlb at bat app

what’s weird, though, is that the radio feed cuts out immediately once the game is over. so I head over to 95.7 internet page to listen to the postgame….but wait – there’s some non-baseball related program on.

too bad. I was in the mood to bask in the postgame show.

by OaklandSi on Jul 31, 2011 4:22 PM PDT reply actions  

That's strange.

On mine I am able to get all the way through the post-game show. Problem is if you stop it or go away from it, you can’t get back into it. (I have an iPhone maybe its different on other phones?)

by dwishinsky on Jul 31, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Strange

Did you migrate away from the game then back again? Mine wont’ let me do that the second it is over.

by dwishinsky on Jul 31, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, this is it

If you leave the audio before the game is over, you can’t get back in. The audio portion of this year’s app is terrible.

"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli

by cuppingmaster on Jul 31, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I went to the support boards and left a feature request.

Perhaps you should, too

"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli

by cuppingmaster on Jul 31, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah def.

My only other request is that they create a web page that lets you watch the game without knowing the score first. My PS3 is set that way, but online I have to get my wife to do it without me looking by being like “yeah it is to the left” “click CSNCA” I hear FoxSports music, “no theres a tab at the bottom”… haha

by dwishinsky on Jul 31, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

IMO, it's worse than when the season started

the audio no longer buffers if you go into a low-reception zone; it just stops.

"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli

by cuppingmaster on Jul 31, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm finding the picture quality better though

Especially at home none of that oil painting crap that happened frequently last year.

by dwishinsky on Jul 31, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is true

the TV portion gained what the audio portion lost

"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli

by cuppingmaster on Jul 31, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish the app would default to As audio!

If I select the headphones icon for a game and one of the teams is one of my favorite (starred) teams, then I probably want the audio from that team, don’t I?

This isn’t that tough to work out, mlb.

by 4-6-3 on Jul 31, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, and As box score

If you flip to the box score it should also default to the team you have favorited so I don’t have to switch half the time.

by 4-6-3 on Jul 31, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd love for more stats options.

Like as an overlay. I get that MLB wont give me cool fangraphs stuff but like, at least give me a “vs. pitcher” that’d be neat. Like bases are loaded, you can see that so and so is 5-for-18 career with bases loaded. Or 4-19 against the pitcher, etc.

by dwishinsky on Jul 31, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's what happened.

I was called away to answer something and I think I must have let it turn off. then it wouldn’t turn on again.

I thought 95.7 had an agreement to allow the postgame show on the internet, but it’s not on.

by OaklandSi on Jul 31, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, CT's show

But not the broadcast postgame

"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli

by cuppingmaster on Jul 31, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think it offers anything you can't get for free.

$2 might be fine for the convenience, but it doesn’t bring any additional content.

If you select 95.7 from it, it just tunes you to 95.7’s stream. But if that stream doesn’t have CT, it doesn’t have CT.

by 4-6-3 on Jul 31, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think it does

It has cool other features though, that spotify now has sort of taken care of. You can search by song and find any station playing that song at the moment in America.

by dwishinsky on Jul 31, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

also, can record radio streams

"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli

by cuppingmaster on Jul 31, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not so much what he says

But what he says what people in the org think of him

"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli

by cuppingmaster on Jul 31, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

For those of us not listening

What’s he saying exactly? What do people in the org thinking of him?

"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton

by vignette17 on Jul 31, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

he hinted that people in the org don't think as highly of him as they once did

nothing specific, though.

"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli

by cuppingmaster on Jul 31, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, his numbers are down.

It’s totally naturally to be less confident of his future results.

by 4-6-3 on Jul 31, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

In this year's MLB action he looked lost

He looked lost at the plate, he looked lost in the field, he made no attempt to grab balls within his reach and he had this clueless look on his face.

In that first episode of the deadly Showtime series about the Giants, one element sticks out, over and over: Major leaguers really need to work at being major leaguers. If they don’t, they turn into Pablo Sandoval in 2010 — which is when Sandoval realized he’d be out of the game if he didn’t bust his ass. Carter, in that last stint, really didn’t look like he was trying, or cared. (Obviously looks can be deceiving, but this time the results followed the look).

At some point it seems like he’ll either find himself or he’ll find himself out of baseball. I wouldn’t be high on him either.

by richwol1 on Jul 31, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Leftover question from the weekend

I’m living on the East Coast now, so I can’t make it to home games. Do they still play “Lights” at the beginning of fireworks shows at the Coliseum or did the Gnats claim “territorial rights” over that song?

by DCFog81 on Jul 31, 2011 4:57 PM PDT reply actions  

they play it

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by mikev on Jul 31, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have found Melissa Lockard's discussion of Carter helpful

she gets to know the minor leaguers pretty well, and she had some insights on how the A’s might better handle him.

No one really knows whether he’ll succeed at the MLB level (for that matter, you don’t know that about most players until they get there).

by OaklandSi on Jul 31, 2011 4:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes, please.

My take on Carter is that he has turned his desire not to hack at bad balls into a very selective, passive approach — one that may match his personality well but does not serve him well.

What I think he needs to do is to go up “looking for pitches to mash,” and then let pitchers’ reluctance to groove pitches create more hitters’ counts for him, and eventually more walks for him.

That’s pretty much what Weeks does, resulting not in HRs but in his case a lot of base hits on 1-0, 2-0, 2-1, 3-1 counts. It’s also what great TTO hitters like Thome do. They walk a ton by looking for pitches to drive and punishing those pitches, and causing pitchers to fall behind in the count a lot for fear of throwing a strike that’s too good.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

BTW, today:

Carter 2 for 4 with a HR and 3 RBI
Taylor 1 for 3 with 2 BBs.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, watch the whole video and you learn one thing: Mather REALLY sucks!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

That was the impression I got!

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 31, 2011 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hehehe

That must have been a tough day for him. That video makes him look really, really bad.

What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.

by winchester5 on Jul 31, 2011 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

This sums up a lot of what Carter's problems seem to be to me as well

Instead of looking for something to do – punish the pitches he can attack – he appears to be looking for something NOT to do – go after bad pitches for him to hit.

In the process, he’s often letting pitches go by that he ought to be sending into orbit.

To minimize his flaws at the plate, he’s doing it at the cost of maximizing his skills.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Jul 31, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the problems is correctable

But what would need to be addressed is psychological (approach and mindset) not physical (mechanics). I’d like to see the A’s keep Willingham around for another couple seasons, combining with Allen to hopefully provide a real “3-4” part of the order that can slug, mash, and drive home Weeks and Crisp (or his successor) like their personal valets.

In this scenario, Carter can earn his way into the mix as soon as he’s ready. I could live with Carter at DH, Allen at 1B, and Willingham in LF (with lots of late-innings Sweeney) if all 3 were hitting.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Carter has been hitting much better since being demoted

Granted, its a very small sample size…but he’s raised his batting average significantly.

by guy incognito on Jul 31, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

.378/.442/.730/1.172 over his past 10 games

2 doubles, a triple, 3 homers, 9 RBI, 4 walks, 9 strikeouts.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Jul 31, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gee, it's almost like we shouldn't completely write him off or something

"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"

http://www.domingobeisbol.com/

by hero66 on Aug 1, 2011 2:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bold.

I like the way you think.

What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.

by winchester5 on Aug 1, 2011 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is that based on what you've seen from him at the big league level?

"Some of us know him as the a-hole who piled into Ray Fosse in an All-Star game (it's why Ray is the way he is folks)" - OptimistPrime

by travdog6 on Aug 1, 2011 1:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great job, kid!

YAY A’s!

"Oh who am I kidding? The A's and Giants could stage a pillow fight, and I'd still care who wins." -67Marquez

by baseballgirl on Jul 31, 2011 5:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Bittersweet day?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but hey, at least it's not the Marlins!

;-)

"Oh who am I kidding? The A's and Giants could stage a pillow fight, and I'd still care who wins." -67Marquez

by baseballgirl on Jul 31, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right.

Or Yankees…Angels…Rangers…

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2011 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

That TOO!

NL is perfect, ’cause of Dodgers Stadium and all. :-D

"Oh who am I kidding? The A's and Giants could stage a pillow fight, and I'd still care who wins." -67Marquez

by baseballgirl on Jul 31, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Say, which team's starting a series in SF tomorrow?

I’ll have to check the schedule.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice, I really love how our offense is playing,

and I think that Bob Melvin should get a lot of the credit for two main reasons. One is that Melvin is a much more personable and approachable human being, so he is undoubtedly much better at inspiring hope, confidence and good vibes amongst our players. The other reason is that Melvin is putting out a consistent lineup which really means a lot to the starters. Our starters have benefited from this, most notably Jackson and Matsui, because they know that they will be in the lineup even if they are in the midst of a dry spell.

by Rygoslinglover on Jul 31, 2011 6:00 PM PDT reply actions  

And by "dry spell" you mean 3 seasons!

;-)

I agree – Melvin has done a terrific job, and even if some of his tactical moves aren’t perfect I think he deserves a ton of credit and a contract extension.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha, yeah basically

I think he deserves an extension as well. The players seem to enjoy playing for him a lot more than they ever did under he-who-must-not-be-named

by Rygoslinglover on Jul 31, 2011 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

.
Brad Ziegler
Big thanks to all the A’s fans who supported me during my time in Oakland… I’m excited to go to Arizona & help the #DBacks win a pennant!

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Jul 31, 2011 6:12 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

So classy.

This should be an example to other MLB players. It’s entirely possible to be enthusiastic about the new place while still being gracious to fans in the old place.

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 31, 2011 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ziggy is a nice guy

I hope he does well, and helps his new team beat the Giants like a cheap tin drum.

M-A, M-A-R, M-A-R-K, Ell-is!

by Englishmajor on Jul 31, 2011 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Classy guy all around and he did a solid job for us.

And, with the WhizKid heading to AZ, he can keep up updated on Zieg’s progress.

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 31, 2011 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

So maybe this has already been discussed in the game threads, but how come the A's are sending Allen to AAA?

On a tangentially related note, Crisp and Matsui are within shouting distance of Type B status in the Elias Rankings, so I can see the point of continuing to give these guys playing time, along with Willingham and DeJesus. But Jackson? Why not give Allen a couple months at 1B to see what he can do? He’s probably at a point where he’ll benefit from seeing MLB pitchers, and might as well give him the opportunity to adjust while the A’s are out of the race.

It definitely looks like Beane is pondering a position switch for Allen:

“One of the things we investigated was the possibility of him going to the outfield, and he is a good enough athlete [that], if we needed that, he could,” Beane said. “But at some point, we’re going to need a first baseman, a DH, some outfielders, so this is all part of that.”

I guess the A’s could use OFers even more than 1B/DHs, so it’ll be nice if that works for Allen, but I don’t see much room on the MLB roster this season unless he’s at 1B.

by Aufheben on Jul 31, 2011 7:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Where is that quote from?

As for your question, I don’t think it’s so mysterious. There isn’t an obvious gap for Allen to fill right now. There’s only one spot on the active roster without sending someone down. Since Ziegler’s departure leaves a hole in our bullpen, Norberto goes right into that spot. Allen is temporarily down, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he comes up soon next time we need to make a roster move.

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 31, 2011 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry about the quote.

Here you go.

As for the second part, I was under the impression the A’s were carrying 13 pitchers, in which case I wouldn’t have a problem giving Ziegler’s spot to Allen and sending Norberto to AAA, leaving the team with a seven man pen (but still no long man). Its really not a big deal. If anything it saves Allen’s service time, and it could be that the A’s want to develop some internal intelligence on his OF skills at AAA before they promote him. But in the long run I don’t feel it would be justifiable to give Jackson playing time over Allen.

by Aufheben on Jul 31, 2011 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suppose Allen can come up Sept 1 for sure when the rosters expand,

so it’s just a matter of where he plays in August. I’d like to see what he can do at 1B in Oakland, but that probably means cutting Conor Jackson since you have Sweeney and Sogard (and Powell) in the mix, and for whatever reason the A’s seem reluctant to cut Conor Jackson.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2011 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I should add I do understand not cutting a player entirely

just so a guy under contract for the next 6+ years can come up a month sooner. One injury and you’ll wish you had Conor.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2011 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's my feeling.

Also, I’m not convinced Allen is better than Jackson. Stick with the plan that keeps both guys in the system. Something will happen making room for Allen to move up soon enough, no need to push the other guys aside just to force it. I feel the same way about Michael Taylor, etc.

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 31, 2011 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Allen is more "clearly ready" than Taylor or Carter

In other words, I think the right place for him is the big leagues, which is no slam dunk for Taylor or Carter. Unless Allen is going to learn/refine a new position.

This is actually my fear. I want the A’s to assess a guy’s best position and go with it. If that’s 1B, put him there, period. If it’s LF, put him there, period. There’s ample scouting data on him by now that they ought to have a very clear idea of where he’s likeliest to succeed.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2011 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is my thing - I think the A's do have a legitimate need at 1B, and that it would be unwise to depend on

Barton/Carter, or a good FA signing. I’d like to know if Allen is capable of holding down 1B next year, so I feel it behooves the A’s to give him playing time now.

by Aufheben on Jul 31, 2011 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't cut Jackson either, but they could send Norberto/Magnuson to Sacto and still have a seven-man pen,

and a spot for Allen. Its a bit unconventional, I would think, to carry 13 pitchers for an extended period. But as you and Iglew point out, Allen will probably be up soon enough.

by Aufheben on Jul 31, 2011 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that right? I lost count.

If they can carry 7 relievers and have both Allen and Jackson then I think that’s what they should do:

Gio
Cahill
McCarthy
Moscoso
Outman

Bailey
Balfour
Breslow
Fuentes
Blevins
Norberto
De Los Santos

It works!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking that by "Outman" he meant "Harden."

Here’s the Active Roster section of their website. Note that as of this writing Zeigler has been removed but Norberto hasn’t been added, so it shows 12 pitchers and 12 position players.

by Aufheben on Jul 31, 2011 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha ha!

Yes, I forgot to untrade Harden.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2011 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matsui and Type B Status

Would we really put in an arbitration number for Matsui? Playing time for Matsui should dictate how you use Matsui down the stretch. On the other hand, more playing time for Crisp, DeJesus, and Willingham.

by Colorado Fan on Jul 31, 2011 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Love what he's doing for us right now,

but I would hate to be stuck with Matsui in 2012. His bat will be exactly one year slower, in May 2012, than it was in May 2011. And I don’t want to wait three months for my DH to wake up.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2011 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Such a waste. He should be the everyday 1Bman now

What does he have left to prove at AAA?

"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"

http://www.domingobeisbol.com/

by hero66 on Aug 1, 2011 2:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Im a bit annoyed by the harden trade drama

Basically boston backed off on the original deal and tried to add some ridiculous health clause trying to get off giving up less. Arent trades about risks, deal with it. Meanwhile, the excuse of medical reports of harden are leaked to the media, which trashes his trade value. Now Mariners benefit by getting 2 decent OF prospects for a just as injury prone bedard. A’s miss a chance of adding more talent with one of their few trade asserts in harden.

Epstein goes on a conference call and says there was no hard feelings over the harden discussions. IMO implying as if it was the A’s fault. Gotta feel bad for Lars Anderson who was excited to play closer to home and get an opportunity rather than being blocked longer in boston

Maybe in the big picture not a big deal since they did get another 1b prospect in Allen. But it was a missed chanced to add more prospect talent or maybe influenced the later ziegler deal

by J.J. Miller on Jul 31, 2011 7:25 PM PDT reply actions  

In the end, though, look how it turned out

The Red Sox scouted Harden and Bedard, saw Harden pitch well and saw Bedard get lit up. They end up with Bedard, and the A’s end up with what sounds like a better 1B prospect than Anderson.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I side strongly with those who

are glad that Beane held firm and didn’t give in to the fallback offer of removing the PTBNL if Harden gets hurt. Nevertheless, I feel obliged to point out that we’re all speculating on that and we don’t actually know that Epstein was jerking Beane around.

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 31, 2011 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just as likely, nothing solid was really quite in place

and the media got overly gung ho.

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by Nico on Jul 31, 2011 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

They can still make the deal though.

There’s nothing stopping them for still making this deal. Especially if they put Allen in LF.

by PL78 on Jul 31, 2011 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Harden would need to be passed over by 13 other teams for the deal to happen at this point,

and none of those teams would be required to offer the A’s anything good in exchange, but only to take on the remaining sum of Harden’s contract, which can’t be much. He could still be dealt – he’s definitely a low-risk pick-up for a contender in need of pitching – but I doubt he’s going to the Red Sox and I doubt the A’s will get a deal that matches Anderson + a PTBNL. At the same time I also doubt the Red Sox deal would have been of much consequence to A’s’ future anyway, so I’m not too bothered.

by Aufheben on Jul 31, 2011 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oakland Athletics owner calls on Frank McCourt to sell Dodgers
Lew Wolff is first MLB owner to publicly encourage McCourt to abandon fight for team. Wolff says McCourt’s ‘ludicrous’ personal attack on Bud Selig in divorce court filing prompted him to speak out.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseball/mlb/dodgers/la-sp-0801-dodgers-mccourt-20110801,0,6491357.story

by J.J. Miller on Jul 31, 2011 7:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Cue conspiracy theory Wolff->LAD, A's->contracted

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by vignette17 on Jul 31, 2011 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

hehehe.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on Jul 31, 2011 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well Lew

It’s my hope that the Athletics will be sold to a party that will restart this great franchise. You asshole

by dashman33 on Jul 31, 2011 8:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   3 recs

Lew's not an asshole, he's a billionaire real estate dev...

… oh, wait.

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by emperor nobody on Jul 31, 2011 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would you rather have Schott back?

At least Lew spends some money.

Focus on Selig.

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 31, 2011 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice to see Lew standing up for Bud Selig,

after all Bud has done for him.

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by Nico on Jul 31, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

yeah

maybe it’s a way for Lew to remind Bud that he still exists.

"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto

by emperor nobody on Jul 31, 2011 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sadly, neither has really forced the issue

A .900+ OPS would force the issue. Right now, they’re both trying to prove there’s a reason to include them in the A’s future plans.

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by Nico on Jul 31, 2011 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Taylor clearly deserves an opportunity right now

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by hero66 on Aug 1, 2011 2:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think Taylor's career trajectory is almost back to looking like a MLer

This season, especially recently, is making 2010 look like an outlier in his record. If he were 3 years younger it would be no big deal at all, and I don’t want to discount the fact that Taylor sucked last season. But his season demonstrates that he hasn’t fallen apart, and he does seem to have some defensive value, as well.

At the least it would be nice to see him get lots of ABs in September.

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by Nick on Aug 1, 2011 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is almost starting to look like a potentially good lineup:

Weeks – 2B
Crisp – CF
Allen – 1B
Willingham – DH
Sweeney – RF
Taylor – LF
Sizemore – 3B
Suzuki – C
Pennington – SS

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 1, 2011 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

You misspelled K-O-U-Z

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Aug 1, 2011 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sacramento

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 31, 2011 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ouch

If you can’t make the current Houston roster, you’re really struggling.

by Glorious Mundy on Jul 31, 2011 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be our best hitter.

We sure do suck but I really hope we keep playing all these crappy vets! I’m eating roof insulation!

by PL78 on Jul 31, 2011 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't tell if you're serious about Wallace being our best hitter.

Willingham, Sizemore, Weeks, Matsui, Crisp and Sweeney all have higher wRC+. Crisp is the only one who’s OPS is lower than .720 but considering Minute Maid park is a bandbox compared to the Coliseum, Weeks is still better.

by NateHST on Jul 31, 2011 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trust me, you're better off not being able to tell

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Aug 1, 2011 4:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

just gonna put this out there:

if you take away beltran, i’d take the a’s over the giants right now. take away lincecum, cain, and sandoval and that team is very weak. and i’m starting to feel like we’re gonna have the better team for the next five years or so too.

at least we don’t have to watch the walking carcasses of huff, tejada, o-cab, rowand, zito, pat burrell, cody ross, and andres torres, at least we don’t have brian sabean as our GM.

as CT would say: dog with fleas. just one dressed up with a world series trophy.

by nateinberkeley on Aug 1, 2011 12:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Wait, what?

Why would you take away Lincecum, Cain and Sandoval? It’s not like they’re leaving SF anytime soon. The Giants have the fifth best record in baseball; they’re farm from a dog with fleas and a WS trophy.

by NateHST on Aug 1, 2011 2:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

their win percentage is advantaged by their schedule

But I agree, the idea that you don’t count some people when evaluating the team makes no sense.

by 4-6-3 on Aug 1, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice Win

The offense has had it working for ages now, and it’s nice to see BA’s going up. McCarthy was solid, as usual.
What do you think of the Ziegler trade? Brad’s been good, but hittable lately, and Allen could be our first baseman.

by Jason James on Aug 1, 2011 1:21 AM PDT reply actions  

It's a good deal.

Relievers, even ones as good as Ziegler, aren’t that difficult to replace. Plus he figures to see a salary raise through arbitration. Norberto’s not that good right now, and might never be due to his control issues. However, Allen’s a steal. He hasn’t done much in the majors to date, but he’s been mistreated by the D’Backs. He should have been given a full-time job with Arizona this season, but for whatever reason, they gave the job to Juan Miranda and Xavier Nady instead.

FWIW, the guys at FanGraphs seriously love this guy. They’ve written a few articles scolding the Diamondbacks for not starting the guy. Apparently, he can also play LF, which Beane may intend to do with him. If everything worked out in the A’s favor, and Barton returned to 2010 form and Carter lived up to (at least some) expectations, then you’re probably looking at Allen in LF, Barton at 1B and Carter at DH. That makes the most sense to me, anyways, though an OF with Taylor and Allen in the corners would be pretty bad defensively.

Either way, it was a solid move.

by NateHST on Aug 1, 2011 2:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is fun

Rev Halofan got FJM-ed

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Aug 1, 2011 2:34 AM PDT reply actions  

It's not really all that funny

but gets points for calling Rev an idiot

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Aug 1, 2011 2:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

What the what?

That is one hell of an article from Rev Halofan. He left out all logic and reason, but made up for the lack of sensibility with an abundance of malicious sensationalism. The comments were about as maddening as the article. I don’t think I’ll go there again.

by NateHST on Aug 1, 2011 3:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Makes you kind of appreciate AN more

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Aug 1, 2011 4:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm actually really surprised that he continues to be in charge of HH.

He’s a hack.

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by mikev on Aug 1, 2011 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure what made me angrier.

The article, or this comment by Rev:

Aiming at someone’s head always deserves a suspension.
If he ahd aimed at his head

he would have hit Avila’s head.

He aimed over his head. His aim is true.

by danmerqury on Aug 1, 2011 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

There was a cool response
Like on a pitch before that?

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Aug 1, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure which part of that is supposed to be enjoyable.

It’s just vitriol and internet flaming. I can get that anywhere.

If I enjoyed that kind of thing I could just read youtube comments all day, I wouldn’t need to see it out on a Tigers blog.

by 4-6-3 on Aug 1, 2011 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

BTW

What happened to 95.7 FM?I knew they were going to change the format, but it seems like the Overnight Takeover, The Morning Show and Rick Tittles are all gone.

by Jason James on Aug 1, 2011 4:41 AM PDT reply actions  

"What are we giving up?"

This is what I heard Keith Leippman saying into his phone as I walked past him at yesterday’s Vermont Lake Monsters game. Sure enough, ten minutes later I saw the Ziegler announcement. Leippman spent most of the game on the phone, though he did consult with the Monsters’ pitching coach a few times behind the dugout.

Great old stadium, fun environment, and the Monsters took 2 of 3 over the weekend!

by boilerdan on Aug 1, 2011 8:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Rangers offer for Bailey was reportedly
NewbergReport Jamey Newberg
From the great @Ken_Rosenthal: TX reportedly offered OAK package incl Erlin, Weiland & Leury Garcia for Andrew Bailey:

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Aug 1, 2011 8:43 AM PDT reply actions  

Garcia looks pretty useless (all field, no hit)

but man, what is it they teach in the Rangers’ farm system that prevents their pitchers from ever walking anybody? Wieland walked FOUR hitters in 85.2 innings at A+ this year.

Billy should have pulled the trigger on that one.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Aug 1, 2011 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Players like Garcia aren't useless.

I don’t know what his defense is like, but if it’s, say, +5 over a season, then he’s a good player. Right now, his line looks like Pennington’s this year (Garcia’s .269/.314/.351 compared to Pennington’s .264/.316/.352). If he does that while playing plus defense, then there’s a pretty good chance he’ll end up between 2.5 and 3 WAR.

But yeah, Wieland and Erlin would have made me a happy man in the first place.

by NateHST on Aug 1, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm just not comfortable putting all of my eggs in the defensive basket.

It’s so much more nebulous, difficult to measure accurately, and fluctuating than a bat. I want to see the A’s using defense as a checklist item (e.g., is his glove a disaster? No? Good!) than as a reason to acquire players.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Aug 2, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

No Profar, No Deal.

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My thoughtful watermelon is easily mistook for an early American catapult.
DURRRR THEY’RE TOO OLD, BABIP IS TOO HIGH, TOO MANY Ks, DURRRRRR

by mikev on Aug 1, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

good luck with that

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Aug 1, 2011 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

NEW POST UP

It’s Allen The Family!

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by Nico on Aug 1, 2011 9:01 AM PDT reply actions  

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