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Olney Rumor Offers Hope For "Best Case Scenario"

The problem the A's have at the trading deadline is that none of their "trade chips" is going to bring back a whole lot on his own -- and in the case of Josh Willingham, potentially a Type A free agent, the A's stand to get maybe two draft picks if they just hang onto him.

But as the trade deadline looms (1:00pm PDT Sunday), the Atlanta Braves are still seeking help in CF where Coco Crisp might be the most natural fit. And the latest Willingham-based rumor, from Buster Olney, suggests that perhaps the Red Sox have inquired about acquire both Willingham and Rich Harden. Note that this rumor is only in the "maybe" stage for rumors. But, that combination could earn the A's back one of the Red Sox players the A's could not get for Willingham, or Harden, alone, and the Red Sox do have several young players/prospects Oakland would benefit from adding to the rebuild effort.

Those players include OFers Josh Reddick and Ryan Kalish, catcher Ryan Lavarnway, 3Bman Garin Cecchini, and the oft discussed 1Bman Lars "Fusco" Anderson.

Meanwhile, for Crisp the A's would likely be adding young starting pitching, which the Atlanta Braves have in their strong farm system. Possibilities in the right prospect-rating range may include (Sickels' ratings follow each name) Brandon Beachy (B-), J.J. "I Suck Like A" Hoover (B-), Brett Oberholtzer (C+), and Arodys Vizcaino (B, but with health questions).

This is kind of my "best case scenario" hope right now: To get a decent young pitching prospect from Atlanta for Crisp, to get a desirable young player back from Boston by packaging two players, e.g., Willingham and Harden, and then to still take a shot at re-signing Willingham in the off-season, to a 3-year deal, as a "LF-DH".

Perhaps not all of this is realistic. Perhaps none of it is. However, so far all of it is based on rumors, and known needs, that are still out there, and all could potentially make sense for the teams involved.

Who do you think the A's would get for Crisp if he were indeed sent to the Braves? And if Willingham and Harden are being discussed as a package, who do you think is a likely candidate to come to Oakland in return? Because if the A's could get one desirable player back from Boston, and a good young pitching prospect back from Atlanta, for three players who are FAs at the end of the season, I would be a happy camper indeed.

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I would LOVE Vizcaino back from the Braves.

Beachy is good, but he’s been up with the big league club this year already and he’s gotten injured but maybe that means it’s meant to be!

From Boston, Reddick and Kalish are both supposed to be solid major league OFers, so either one might be nice. Anderson has always been talked about, as you mentioned, but i dunno if i want two 1b near the same level when neither can play another position.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 10:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Kalish is still hurt I think

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by mikev on Jul 30, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought something might be up.

Since he’s kinda disappeared this year. Do you know what with?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I seriously doubt they trade Beachy this year.

He’s a rookie with a 9.6 K/9 and a 2.85 BB/9. He wasn’t a highly touted prospect at the start of the season, but he’s been very good so far.

by NateHST on Jul 30, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Doug Fister was traded!

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 10:20 AM PDT reply actions  

I was just coming online to post this

details:

starter Doug Fister and reliever David Pauley from the Mariners for third baseman Francisco Martinez, outfielder Casper Wells, southpaw Charlie Furbush, and a player to be named later

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by gigglingone on Jul 30, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not surprising -

When I wanna Fister, Pauley is always involved.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

ooooh a bunch of players i couldnt care less about!

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really? An obscene term, a girl's name, and a friendly ghost - what's not to care about?

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fister for Furbush

A trade for the ages.

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by FrankCohen on Jul 30, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I was waiting for someone to make that joke. Hehe.

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by kenntoe on Jul 30, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Martinez is one of the top prospects in the Detroit org

don’t know much about the others

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by gigglingone on Jul 30, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm didn't know that!

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bad defense

  I thought that was his problem.

by Arcman on Jul 30, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

No power either, but he's very young

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 30, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

This surprised me.

I thought the Mariners would keep Fister. All jokes aside, I think he’s really good.

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by iglew on Jul 30, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe their 17 game losing streak

convinced them they won’t be contending this year.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nothing to do with contention.

Even as sellers I didn’t think they’d move Fister.

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by iglew on Jul 30, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not closely, but a certain amount filters in.

It’s very interesting to contrast the attitude of general fans around town and the hardcore fans who populate places like Lookout Landing.

Occasionally I’ll see posts here where someone says “the Seattle fanbase thinks such-and-such” and my impression will be exactly the opposite. But what people really mean is Lookout Landing thinks such-and-such, and they’re an elite sample.

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by iglew on Jul 30, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

interesting

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

What a blockbister!!!

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh nico,

always trying to coin new terms! It might stick though…

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fister KILLS us, this is great news!

2.77 ERA in 9 starts against us and he’s getting better….wow, thanks M’s!

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's the best 3-12 pitcher in baseball.

3.33 ERA with that record!

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Which is why MLB needs to really stop keeping that stat.

Pitcher W-L is the worst stat in all of pro sports. Great, a single player stat that is dependent almost entirely on the rest of his team, umpires and manager, makes so much sense…..sigh.

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

FIP VORP ERA+

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

What about them?

Are people not allowed to publish W/L records or ERA anymore? I said “He’s the best 3-12 pitcher in baseball” — do you disagree?

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

No. Never.

We must only discuss players in arbitrary stats we dont know how to pronounce and 80% of the population doesnt understand.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

i agree and disagree.

i agree that the stat isn’t indicative of a pitcher’s production. however, if people just recognize it doesn’t mean much, i dont see the problem in keeping it around. it’s fun to announce. Much better than, "Gio added .2 WAR tonight, while Doug Fister dropped to a 4.12 FIP.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its entirely based on if his offense scores runs for him.

And in the AL he has absolutely no control over that. Also he has no control over reliever choice by the manager. There’s absolutely no logic behind it whatsoever. It needs to be abolished so the rest of sports can stop laughing at how fuckin stupid and outdated our stats are at times.

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

because PPG, Assists, or INTs dont have any problems or flaws.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

that too.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

what about RBI?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got curious. In 2010:

Win percentage correlated with FIP with an R of 0.42.
RBIs correlated with wOBA with an R of 0.69.

by danmerqury on Jul 30, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

hmm interesting.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

So RBIs are a lot better than Win%.

Although this comes with the usual “FIP isn’t the end all be all metric like wOBA is” warning.

by danmerqury on Jul 30, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

What about wins to like ERA+?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

that's better...

but then again people have problems with ERA. Could wins be correlated to WAR?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

well i think that says a lot.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but that's because it is an ingredient of it

It’s like to say that the saltiness of a dish correlates with the amount of salt put in it

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

heh

thats why i was asking if it coul be done

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Could you do a quick "grittiness" / "team winning pct" check?

I’m assuming an R of about 1.2 but I’d like to be sure.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

1.1.

Because gritty players give 110%.

by danmerqury on Jul 30, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Makes TOTAL sense!

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

i agree

when steve carlton won 27 games with the inept phillies…his record showed nothing about his awesomeness. i mean it showed him being awesome BUT not how awesome he was

by heartstopper on Jul 30, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, it's not

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like wins and losses

Even though there’s no rational reason for it.

It think it’s fun to say, “Oh, Doug Fister. Yeah, he pitches well against us but we keep beating him.” Or “Wow. Tim Hudson just won his 20th even though his ERA is over 4.00 and there are dozens of pitchers with better FIPs in the American League.”

by richwol1 on Jul 30, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

People say “X dropped his ERA to 3.54” all the time. Using FIP is so much worse?

by doctawojo on Jul 30, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Big difference between W-L and ERA

ERA is not the most precise measure of a pitcher but it’s at least approximate. W-L is way off and has more to do with the rest of the team than the pitcher.

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by iglew on Jul 30, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right.

ERA is not a “horrible stat”. It just isn’t as reflective or predictive as some other stats. But most SPs with a 3.20 ERA are pitching very well, and most SPs with a 4.60 ERA are pitching very poorly.

In contrast, W/L records don’t even have that going for them, in that there are plenty of times a guy can be 6-12 while pitching well, or be 12-6 and not pitching that well at all.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I enjoy reading a pitcher's W-L, but I don't even

think of it as a measure of the pitcher’s skill.

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by iglew on Jul 30, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Note the comment I was responding to

Which contained a claim that “Doug Fister dropped his FIP to 4.12” wouldn’t be something we’d want to read.

by doctawojo on Jul 30, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the day I start reading that regularly

will be the day I switch to following competitive crochet instead.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Again: why? It’s exactly the same as ERA, but better.

by doctawojo on Jul 30, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not gritty enough.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

BARELY KNEW HER!

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by YonYonson on Jul 30, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

2 homeruns last night

  Willingham pushed his price right back up. I am glad to see Beane say he isn’t giving anyone away. Hold out for the best package. I wouldn’t mind them trading DeJesus for a mid level prospect in A ball since he is just taking up space and unlikely to get arbitration. Don’t rule out the Yanks on any trade. Don’t be surprised if Montero comes in a package for Willingham, Breslow, Donaldson, and Harden.

by Arcman on Jul 30, 2011 10:32 AM PDT reply actions  

No, I would be surprised if that happens.

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by FrankCohen on Jul 30, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

me too.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why is he unlikely to get arbitration?

I would be happy if the A’s offered him arbitration and he accepted.

by sc00by on Jul 30, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

DeJesus needs to be directed to the closest Greyhound Station

ASAP! And he should sneak Michael Wuertz in his tote bag if he has any room….good lord those two guys made me nearly throw my television off the balcony last night!

Free Ryan Sweeney!!!!!!

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by mrod on Jul 30, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would gladly trade those 4 for Montero

and I’m not even that big a fan of Montero.

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

ditto

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by iglew on Jul 30, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Donaldson

I’d love to see him get some sort of shot at an everyday position in the lineup with the big league club.

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by FrankCohen on Jul 30, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

why?

he’s not playing that great in AAA.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's been hitting the shit out of the ball lately

Plus, an .825 OPS isn’t horrible, I think he’s a pretty good defensive catcher, and he’s still only 25.

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by FrankCohen on Jul 30, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

that's true

i dunno, he’s just not very exciting i suppose…

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see Recker get a shot ahead of Donaldson.

He’s older and might have some value as a trade chip or even as a 1B.

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Let's see Recker.

Gotta love a catcher named Recker.

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by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

BARELY KNEW HER

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by mikev on Jul 30, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

you're going to miss Fister, aren't you?

I hope you’ll be posting BARELY KNEW HER on their blog each time he pitches…

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by gigglingone on Jul 30, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

we'll still have recker

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

sigh.

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by mikev on Jul 30, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless the A's offered Gio.

Gio would net Montero and either Betances or Banuelos.

No indication that Beane is willing to deal Gio, but I wish he would explore it to see if he was offered something irrefusable.

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by notsellingjeans on Jul 30, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

What could you see the A's getting for Crisp and for Hardenham?

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only offensive guys I like in the Braves' system are really far away from contributing.

Maybe Crisp could net Andrelton Simmons, Edward Salcedo, or Christian Bethancourt. All are toolsy B-/C+’s at the beginning of the year. Salcedo has had a good year and was a B-, would maybe be a B now. That’s too good for Crisp, IMO.

But it might be more urgent to trade Crisp than Will/DJJ, because Crisp offers no compensation opportunities.

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by notsellingjeans on Jul 30, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking of pitchers

Get a young pitcher for Crisp, and a young hitter for Willingden.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

So what you're saying

Is that you’d be really happy with Chipper Jones and Tim Wakefield.

by richwol1 on Jul 30, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ubaldo has three years of control after '11, Gio has four.

Plus Gio is healthier and left-handed, which works better in their park. They are known to prefer top-of-the-rotation lefties to righties, all else being equal.

I think a gentleman’s offer would be Gio for Montero, Betances or Banuelos (Yankees pick which one they keep), and then two of these three unheralded RHP’s I really like: Graham Stoneburner, David Phelps, and Adam Warren. All three were pre-season B-’s from Sickels, ranked 10-12 on their prospect list.

If the Yankees would do that, I think the A’s should. The A’s very likely won’t make the playoffs in ’12 and Gio will only get less valuable from here.

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by notsellingjeans on Jul 30, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Montero

  he is a DH type and is terrible at any position he is put into. Think of chris carter with a higher batting average.

by Arcman on Jul 30, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be envisioning Montero as the 2012 starting DH/backup catcher.

He gets 40 games behind the plate as Suzuki’s backup and the rest of the time he’s DHing.

It basically saves a 25-man roster spot. DFA Powell, add Recker to the 40-man this offseason and keep him and Donaldson in AAA in case something happens to Suzuki or Montero.

You could use that extra roster spot to do more platooning in the infield/outfield next year by keeping six infielders and five outfielders (with Montero at DH/backup C).

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by notsellingjeans on Jul 30, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Totally.

And by mid-season he could have slipped into “every day 1B” as it turns out.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not this year.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's pretty close

SIERA 2011:

Ubaldo 3.48
Gio 3.59

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 30, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

And looks more "presidential"

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah Ubaldo had a rough start, that's all i remember.

didnt know he had turned it around this much.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Update

I read today that ubaldo’s 2014 option is waived if traded, which he has been. So really, gio has higher trade value because he has more years of control to two years for ubaldo.

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by notsellingjeans on Jul 30, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

4 years for gio, two for u j

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by notsellingjeans on Jul 30, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is there any way we can trade Suzuki or send him down or at ACKNOWLEDGE that he's having massive issues at the plate?

I don’t get it: we send Barton down because he’s sucking at the plate, we send Kouz down because he’s sucking at the plate, Suzuki is sucking about as bad as them and is still our everyday C when Recker or Donaldson deserve a shot. Since May 15 he’s had a .596 OPS, and that’s a SLG-infused OPS not an OBP-slanted one.

I’m sick of Kurt Crosby and something needs to be done. Put him on the DL or something so he can play some rehab games at AAA but my lord he’s really doing his best Bo-Cro impersonation right now.

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 10:43 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't think he can be sent down.

Suzuki has a multi-year, MLB contract. The others don’t. Kouz went through arbitration, and Barton has yet to get to arby. I don’t think a player with an MLB contract can be sent to AAA without consent. But I could be wrong.

by sc00by on Jul 30, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I did not know that

Interesting….well we could also get rid of Powell and bring up Recker or Donaldson to play full time and have Kurt come in as a late inning defensive replacement. He is simply not a big league bat right now and needs to completely overhaul his approach or figure out what he did in 08 + 09 that he isn’t doing now.

Maybe he’s hiding an injury too? Typical A’s style if he is….

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm?

Barton and Kouz had MLB contracts. One year ones, but they were still MLB contracts. You can’t play in the majors (or even be on the 40-man) without one.

by danmerqury on Jul 30, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

OK, so is there a difference between team control/arbitration and a long-term extension?

For whatever reason I was under the impression that people with contracts like Suzuki’s had to consent to being assigned to AAA. Am I wrong about that? Can Suzuki be sent to AAA?

by sc00by on Jul 30, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's like WC says.

If you have five years service time, you can refuse an optional assignment.

by danmerqury on Jul 30, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

the only way he couldn't be sent down is if he had accrued like 8 years of service time or something,

which allows him to refuse a demotion. he hasn’t gotten that yet.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

you might be right.

i was just saying its something like that

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

OK, thanks for the clarification.

I’m not sure why I thought it was based on the contract. Thanks Dan.

by sc00by on Jul 30, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Of course they do.

But…what can they do about it? He’s not hitting bad enough for a demotion, since we don’t have a Posey or an Arencibia-type prospect in AAA.

by danmerqury on Jul 30, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yikes.

File this under “This is why your team sucks”.

Kurt and AJ Pierzynski are about the same player this year…..that’s…not who you want to be comped with.

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mathis throwing with his left hand maybe.

I think it’s also a major embarrassment to an organization to have someone in AAA making $4m a year.

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by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only if it turns out to be better than his right one

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Mathis career CS%: 23

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that throwing out runners or getting thrown out?

Back in April, I think, Suzuki was at something like 50%. Not so much anymore.

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by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Barton and Kouz are way different.

One, they don’t have long-term extensions, and two, they don’t play catcher. Even though Kurt has been sucking, he’s still been only one run worse than the average catcher so far.

by danmerqury on Jul 30, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Undoubtedly, that one run scored when he dropped a throw to the plate.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

or a runner stole second and third

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by Future Ed on Jul 30, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

A strong belief in the ATL organization that the package they offered for Pence was markedly better than deal HOU made with Philadelphia.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 10:54 AM PDT reply actions  

Minor was offered

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

If we're trading Willingham to Boston I'd want Lavernway or Reddick back.

I’m not seeing anyone else for whom I’d be willing to forgo the chance at draft picks. Maybe Iglesias? Tejeda?

For Harden I’d be fine with a lottery ticket like Sean Coyle or Henry Ramos

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 30, 2011 11:01 AM PDT reply actions  

do you have a quick scouting report on Lavernway?

havent heard of him before?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure what I'm allowed to post from Sickels's or BA's books or paid sites BP or BA

but the gist of it is that he’s a powerful bat and a below average but adequate defender

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 30, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Landon Powell-esque guy with an unsustainable BABIP at AAA

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

From age 22-24,

Powell slugged .341, .428, .439.

The past 3 seasons (same ages), Lavarnway has slugged .540, .489, .589.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

How do the park factors look?

Don’t get me wrong, I’d love ANYONE to replace Suzuki at this point, but Lavarnway’s babip is a giant red flag.

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why do you assume that his high BABIP means he's been lucky,

as opposed to that he’s been hitting the ball especially hard?

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, this.

Hitter BABIP is much more an indicator of skill than pitcher BABIP. I mean, obviously, there’s a decent amount of luck in it, but if you’re tattooing the ball every time, you’re gonna have a huge BABIP.

by danmerqury on Jul 30, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

What kind of tattoo does he leave?

A tramp stamp? Korean word for Hope? I need more details.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

To me, there are two distinct kinds of "high/low BABIP"

One is placement, which is highly luck dependent. That’s the difference between a sharp one-hopper to 3B and a sharp one-hopper through the hole, or a soft fly ball caught on the run and a soft fly ball played on a hop.

The other is how well you hit the ball, which is highly skill dependent. That’s the difference between a soft fly ball to left-center and a harder drive to left-center, or between a sharp two-hopper to the 2Bman’s left and a “12-hopper” to the 2Bman’s left.

Before I decide how much is luck and how much is to the hitter’s credit, I want to know whether the high/low BABIP is more the result of placement or how the ball is actually being hit.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

can you explain ISO to me?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Slugging minus batting average

A good indicator of raw power

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

ah okay, didn't know if it was minus BA or OBP

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eh.

He’s batting .352/.421/.692 in AAA. Even when that .406 BABIP goes down, he’ll still have a hell of a batting line.

by danmerqury on Jul 30, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

jesus that's crazy.

yeah i wouldnt mind having him.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

A catcher whose gonna hit 30 HR's this year?

Even if it’s the minors, hell yes I’d take him. Although I hear he may not stick at C.

by ozzman99 on Jul 30, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

And in 2010 he had 140 wRC+ with a BABIP of .320

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

holy snap

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

well said.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

nice playing catch with you yesterday

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah it was great.

glad you asked!

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh

Haven’t played catch with someone in a while. Gotta work on my curve and knuckler a little.

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by Flashfire on Jul 30, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I also played catch with the Emperor.

That was an event.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha seriously.

you’ve got a pretty good arm yourself.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

nice of you to say but it's not true. i bruised my rotator cuff a few years ago and it's never healed well.

now as for your curve ball. nice bendy-ness there.

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's what i do short distances.

better accuracy for me that way, playing second base and all

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha more hittable than a fuentes fastball though.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well that's cuz i can make it over the plate.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wins might be one of the stupidest stats around

But BABIP must win the not-really-understood-but-frequently-stated-as-a-fact stat category

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes. It's one of my "pet peeves"

the way BABIP is discussed as if everyone is really supposed to have a “league average BABIP” every single at bat and every deviation from it is clearly a matter of chance.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right, but it does explain spikes in batting average

Kurt Suzuki, for example, stinks at hitting so he will always have a low BABIP because its all pop ups. When someone adds 100 BABIP points from their previous season and then comes back down the next, its luck.

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Depends on the time frame.

Hitters very often have stretches of a month where they simply hit the ball better. They less often have a full year like that.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's why I'd be wary of Lavernway

also would to know Pawtucket plays before taking his numbers at face value. Could be extreme hitters park and he’s only mashing there = total fail when hitting at the Coli.

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good point, but he mashed quite well in A and AA too.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did a little research on it

Can’t find the graph now, but no smoking gun

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks brother

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suspect it's a rare player who would hit

an inordinate number of “foul pop ups that are playable at the Coliseum but not most places.” Likely, the vast majority of hitters hit roughly the same number of those.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

It’s enough to see some differences in people’s AVG over time, but I doubt they’d be keeping a .270 hitter from being a .300 hitter.

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by Flashfire on Jul 30, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or they'd about that to everyone

Whether it’s an .010 hit in BA or an .030 hit, my assumption is that it’s close enough to the same for everyone that you wouldn’t sign or scout accordingly even if you had the data.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

wRC+
Runs per PA scaled where 100 is average; both league and park adjusted; based on wOBA

as in Lavernway had 140 wRC+ with a BABIP of .320 in 2010

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's his 2011 line so far

in AA and AAA.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lavernway's an all offense, bad defense catcher.

But I’ve said this before, Lavernway is probably not tradable because the Red Sox will probably let go of Varitek (who will be 40) next year, so they’ll need another catcher on the roster.

by NateHST on Jul 30, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

So, you're saying there's something wrong with people turning 40?

That we can no longer perform?
THAT WE HAVE TO BE LET GO?!

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like he's not much of a future catcher for them,

but could be a future 1Bman for us (and they have A. Gonzalez). So…What if…

Willingham, Harden, and Suzuki for Lavarnway and _? Blockbuster time!

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

His bat will be enough to warrant playing time, though.

He’s bad, but he’s a hell of a hitter. People tend to think that backup catchers should be defensive specialists, but for the most part, a good hitter/bad defender will provide similar value to a bad hitter/good defender.

by NateHST on Jul 30, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

They really dont need a catcher.

Jarson Varitamacchia is doing pretty well at catcher. why would they want suzuki?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I doubt they're comfortable with Salty as a long-term solution,

given how recently he was a head case and failure. And regardless of Suzuki’s struggles, and how he frustrates this fan base, I think he’s very well regarded around the league. If only he weren’t throwing SO badly I think he’d have quite a bit of value. No idea what’s up with the throwing.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

GO TO ESPN

Coco is on the front page!!!!

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 11:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Please tell me he wasn't driving last night.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I could, but i'd be lying.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Astros asked for this from the braves apparently

reportedly four of their top pitching prospects, two from their “untouchable” tier and two from the next tier down-jayson stark

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 11:22 AM PDT reply actions  

But they're pissed because the Phillies gave up less than that.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ed Wade is such a goddamn idiot.

I bet what happened was that the Braves actually did offer a better package, but he counter-offered with the above and offended Wren, who walked away.

Ed Wade is right up there with Dusty Baker in terms of guys who I cannot believe keep getting jobs.

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ed Wade got at least two serious prospects for Hunter Friggin’ Pence. Unclear why the speculation/rumors about who offered what etc. matters.

by doctawojo on Jul 30, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pence might be overrated

Hard to tell whether he is “really good” or just plays in a “really good hitter’s park”.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

he is good

but not much better than brown right now. Releasing ibenez would have been a better idea.

As far as prospects go, I am kind on the fence, it seems like an overpay in a vacuum, but the phillies don’t want Cody Ross bouncing them from the playoffs this year, so spending seems like an afterthought

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by Future Ed on Jul 30, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is pretty good analysis

though I think Pence is a significant upgrade over Brown for the rest of this season. But Singleton’s a bad outfielder, and blocked by 1B by Howard, and Cosart’s good but the Phillies have a top five pitching staff. So it’s not like they shot their future in the foot by doing so.

by NateHST on Jul 30, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cuz he couldve had better?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did I miss something?

What started this is what the Astros asked for, not what was offered, right?

by doctawojo on Jul 30, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Minor was offered by the braves, plus others

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty well ready to dismiss any claims that he could’ve done better (certainly to the point of calling him an idiot) unless we know who the “others” are. Minor and Singleton are probably ~comparable. But did the Braves offered someone as good as Cosart as well?

by doctawojo on Jul 30, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cosart?

All this time, I thought it was Mozart. Now I don’t see what all the fuss was about.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Minor is better than Cosart

I don’t know who else they offered

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by hero66 on Jul 30, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it could have been that the Astros wanted a bit of offense.

The Braves farm system is really good, but it’s also really pitching heavy. They don’t really have an offensive prospect like Singleton.

by NateHST on Jul 30, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Angels are seeking a 6th/7th inning reliever.

Oh Brian!!! It’s time to go homeeeee!

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 11:36 AM PDT reply actions  

I think we should just offer him.

Nothing in return.

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So generous.

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

We'll even pay for his plane ticket

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Capitol Corridor!

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Perfect.

He’ll love it.

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

we got desert, we got trees
we got the hills of beverly
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by AV on Jul 30, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

do they still want Weurtz?

  They offered Sean Rodriguez for him a few years ago.

by Arcman on Jul 30, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly, I don't think Wuertz has any trade value right now

He’s clearly either hurt or just completely unsure how to get hitters out, or throw strikes, with any consistency.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, that was deleted quickly

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 12:17 PM PDT reply actions  

what was?

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

the name is suspicious.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmm

yeah odd

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

DFA got banned?

I assumed he left of his own accord.

by Glorious Mundy on Jul 30, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

He did

This was someone with a similar name playing on the DFA thing. Was about as civil, too.

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by Flashfire on Jul 30, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

they can delete comments?

by AV on Jul 30, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

i was really asking!

by AV on Jul 30, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh, sorry

they can and they do

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sometimes we "hide" them,

so that mods can still see them but you peons can’t. <evil laugh>

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by iglew on Jul 30, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

they are still here

(in invisible ink!)

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

mikev,

US grouping looks good, Mexico and Costa Rica def got the hardest route to the Hex, and Canada has to be happy atm.

by Copenhagen on Jul 30, 2011 12:21 PM PDT reply actions  

what?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Prelim draw for WC2014 is happening right now

CONCACAF rounds 2 and 3 are mapped out for the region.

by Copenhagen on Jul 30, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

gotcha

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would hope that Agbossoumonde, Opara and Gonzalez would be in the mix for central defense

Hopefully Mwanga will be an option up too assuming his green card comes without issue to help the attack.

by Copenhagen on Jul 30, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

he probably wont be affective anyway in 2014

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is out best holding forward

just needs to learn to not try to consistently try to take on 3 men after he has held it up. Verbeek is a solid manager was at Heerenveen when Bradley was there did wonders for him.

by Copenhagen on Jul 30, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aguodelo, baby

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by mikev on Jul 30, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep.

gotta hope he gets it together

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

he well, he's like danbot and MOs age

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by mikev on Jul 30, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

12?

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re-think your answer

or you are shmoopies with a child

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was just sayin...

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes, dear

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's more like it

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

dude the first time I asked her how old she was she held up fingers and said "this many"

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by mikev on Jul 30, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmm...

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mmhm.

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haven't even looked yet, I've been workin on mah boat all day

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by mikev on Jul 30, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm taking a break in between coats of teak oil

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by mikev on Jul 30, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

nice

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

My speculation
So looks like for round 3 of #CONCACAF qualifying the #USMNT draw Jamaica, Guatemala and prob Haiti assuming the last 2 win their groups.
Mexico, Costa Rica and probably El Salavador and Trinidad looks the toughest of the 3 Round 3 groupings, Canada is pleased.

by Copenhagen on Jul 30, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also bonus

CONCACAF 4th place playoff is against Oceania (likely New Zealand)

by Copenhagen on Jul 30, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

i totally don’t get the CONCACAF process. do some teams (US, mex, can, jamaica, etc.) sit around waiting for the others (T&T, antigua, panama, etc.) to finish their group? and then, and only then, do the minnows enter competition vs the Q’s from last year? please correct me if i understand this wrong.

but if that’s the way it goes, that’s not right! i know it’s not numerically smart to have every single team play every single team as they do in south america, which is really the fairest way to do this, but, at the very least, everybody should start from scratch.

by AV on Jul 30, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

vs the Q’s from last WC?*

by AV on Jul 30, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have to remember CONCACAF is 40 members but only 35 are full FIFA members

setting something up like COMEBOL isn’t likely. The 6 that get tossed into the Round 3 pots are base off past performance. They were going to tweak it this year to make the Round 3 and Hex different but they decided against it.

by Copenhagen on Jul 30, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

A lot of those little countries don't even have a stadium that FIFA will allow a qualifier to be played in

They have to play their home qualifiers in Miami and whatnot. It’s best for everyone that they are weeded out early.

by Glorious Mundy on Jul 30, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

i totally agree. the amount of money a country can spend on a sport should be be-all/end-all in any competition regarding that sport. i say, let’s whittle down the long boring qualification rounds to what a single put-up or shut-up 10-million-dollar buy in. anybody who can’t afford that is best weeded out early.

signed,
sep

by AV on Jul 30, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

you’re re-stating what i said, though, rather than explaining why. yep, too many teams to have a full-out, even-steven, home-away, single round. and, yep, the ones that get the privilege of byes get them via past performance.

so, yeah, i’ll concede that the tournament has to be broken up into rounds. but why should any team (ok, any full FIFA-member team) get a bye during any round? that’s not right. basing it on past success only grooves certain teams into unfair re-qualification. it’d be like saying that every team that went to the division series last year gets to automatically reach the payoffs this year.

there are other tournaments where i’d see how that is beneficial, short ones, the world cup of clubs for example, where some teams get byes straight into the semifinal. but this is the largest tournament. it can be even from the beginning and it should be.

by AV on Jul 30, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Non full FIFA teams can't participate in the WC like Guadelope

I’m not saying it is fair or right, that how it has been as long as Warner and Blazer had the reins. Maybe under a new regime it will be different, but honestly I do not look forward to a USA v Aruba purely on knowing the outcome and risking potential injury.

by Copenhagen on Jul 30, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Spain vs. Faroe Islands is more predictable

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

they only had a -15 in 10 games last round

I would be shocked to the Carribean minnows put up anything close to that. Like I said I’m not saying it is fair, that the system that is in place.

by Copenhagen on Jul 30, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hear you

Btw. does anyone know what exception to FIFA rules is allowed in Faroe?

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Something that is normally not allowed is allowed when, say, Spain visits Faroe Islands

I am talking about in-game rules. Come on soccer fans ;-)

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, then just try to think of something

Be imaginative
(This one is tough to google, btw. I checked quickly now and found no references to it in English)

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

is it something that has to do with being in the faroe islands per se?

by AV on Jul 30, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, with the natural specifics of the island

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope, but nice try

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

because of high wind factors, goalies are allowed to use their hands when same-team members pass it back to them?

by AV on Jul 30, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

getting closer!

you have the first part right!

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

high kicks are allowed (to bring down soaring balls)?

TWSS?

by AV on Jul 30, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

You guys are getting close enough

When a team shoots a penalty kick, it is allowed for another team member to hold the ball with his hand, so it won’t get blown away while the kicker approaches

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

exactly

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s great! (i never would have guessed it.)

by AV on Jul 30, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmm. interesting. give me a minute to think about it.

by AV on Jul 30, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

nah, can’t think of anything. i looked at a map thinking the stadium would be right on the water or something that mandated no throw-ins form one side. but yeah, i got nothin’.

by AV on Jul 30, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good out-of the-box thinking

I’ll let it be unanswered a bit longer, perhaps someone knows

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

USA v aruba. what if instead of 6 groups in stage 2, there were 8. and USA v. aruba was just what was drawn in that group. it would not represent any “extra” chances for injury even if the outcome was more or less predictable since all teams would play the same number of games. and if the outcome is really that predictable, why would the USA be against it?

on the other hand, look at it from aruba’s POV. why should they have to play more games and risk injury. and what if the outcome isn’t that predictable after all…?

by AV on Jul 30, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be okay with it, what I would like is a less drawn out process

hell even COMEBOL takes forever to complete, just wish is was more compact stupid club teams getting in the way.

I don’t think the USA is against any of these ideas, it is the heads of CONCACAF. They want to sell tickets first and care about what is fair second. Shitty attitude but meh not a lot that can be done.

The only thing I can see the USSF beign against is having to travel somewhere where the pitch is worse then say what was at Barbados. I mean mounds, shitty drainage just a dangerous field.

by Copenhagen on Jul 30, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Barbados Coliseum!

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

i love the drawn out process in this case. for me, it’s not a competition at the end of 4 years of qualifying. i see it as a 4-year-long competition with a really good playoff. so yeah, the more fair games, the better.

by AV on Jul 30, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm with you on this one

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone see the tweet from ginger willingham?

she said she doubts they’ll be traded.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 12:24 PM PDT reply actions  

huh?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

She sounds like she really wants to be traded.

Judging by passed tweets and she RT’s every single rumor about Josh

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tweets like...
Not gonna lie…a team a little closer to home is definitely on my prayer list. #justsayin

by sc00by on Jul 30, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wtf.
Maybe I should head back to OAK, there might not be a trade. #nocomment

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which is weird because don't we love Scott?

and nobody has ever really been down on Josh, yet…

Feeling some love for my hubby from A’s fans…it’s about time! Go A’s! #Athletics

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well that makes it sound like we all think Josh sucks

not that we dislike his bad defense

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, but if that's what people talk about the most...just sayin'

I mean, we’ve had people here saying he’s a bad player when he’s really having a down year. But, he’s hardly a bad player at all.

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by Flashfire on Jul 30, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

She stuck around after the Tweetup on Tuesday to chat with fans

Could’ve just left when Cotroneo and Longworth did as an excuse to go find her seat, but she didn’t.

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by Flashfire on Jul 30, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is McCarthy a free agent?

He’s one of the few people I’d like to see signed to a long term deal.

by NateHST on Jul 30, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

One year deal

And I’d be hesitant about a long term deal based on injury history. That’s just the reality of it for him.

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by Flashfire on Jul 30, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but he's one of those boom or bust guys like Harden.

But they tend to go somewhat cheaply. I wouldn’t mind signing both of them to two or three year deals.

by NateHST on Jul 30, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be real hesitant to do that with Harden at this point

Unless you’ve got enough roster flexibility to be prepared for DL stints.

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by Flashfire on Jul 30, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Harden, I'd prefer on an incentive-laden deal.

I wouldn’t really have a problem signing McCarthy to a three year deal worth $15-18M. He’s been really damn good this season.

by NateHST on Jul 30, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe some crazy-ass performance incentive based deal?

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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 30, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah
The contract guarantees McCarthy $1MM and he can earn more through incentives, according to Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle

One of the links on it: http://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articles/as_agree_to_sign_brandon_mccarthy/3786922

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by Flashfire on Jul 30, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is.

actual performance based (Wins, ERA number, etc etc) aren’t allowed in MLB contracts

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by mikev on Jul 30, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I sure hope that changes in the next CBA.

I’d love to see pure performance-based payment, not that it would happen.

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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 30, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've heard that a lot, but

I couldn’t find it anywhere in the CBA. In fact, I found a few things referring to performance-based bonuses implying they were allowed.

Are the maybe banned in some separate agreement?

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by iglew on Jul 30, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still funny.

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

not skinny enough

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very funny

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

love this

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by gigglingone on Jul 30, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

The oddest/best thing about that pic

McCarthy has the best WAR out of all of them #HowDoThingsWork

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only fWAR, not rWAR

The A’s crappy defense this year has really exaggerated the fWAR-vs-rWAR differences. WARs to date for 2011:

player   fWAR  rWAR
Gonzalez  2.2   3.2
Cahill    1.6   3.0
McCarthy  2.6   1.6
Anderson  1.0   1.4
Moscoso  -1.0   0.8
Braden    0.3   0.5

Also, I think for pitchers rWAR scales a touch higher than fWAR generally.

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by iglew on Jul 30, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's the bizarre thing.

I can understand differences in calculation, but they should be on the same scale. But they’re not. Why not?

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a nerd's kryptonite.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought those were girls.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which is crazy.

Not only are they calculated differently, but a 2.5 fWAR could be the equivalent of 3 rWAR?

by danmerqury on Jul 30, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's crazy at all

It’s a question of whether a team of really crummy players would play .250 or .320 or .340 or who knows what baseball. There’re lots of good ways to answer this question, and I find it not at all unreasonable that we have different people making different claims.

by doctawojo on Jul 30, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

The primary difference between fWAR and rWAR

for pitchers has to do with how they try to control for defense. Both try to remove defense from the equation so that the pitcher is judged on his own merits alone. fWAR does it by relying on FIP, which essentially equalizes all balls in play. rWAR attempts to determine the defense’s contribution from their defensive stats. Both are imperfect, so there’s plenty of room for error, but the more erratic the defense it is, the more the two will deviate. rWAR is essentially crediting A’s pitchers for the crappy defense behind them. I assume that if you compare games, you’ll find that the team has provided better defensive stats when McCarthy is pitching.

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by iglew on Jul 30, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oops, I misread your comment

and answered the wrong half.

When I referred to scale, I just meant that rWAR tends to rate pitchers over all slightly higher than fWAR does. They’re still the same scale in the sense that a win is a win and both are scaled to wins added. rWAR just concludes that pitchers over all contribute more to their team winning than fWAR does. Why is that bizarre?

Anyway, I think it’s a pretty small difference when averaged out over the league. Not the big swings we see in individual A’s pitchers.

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by iglew on Jul 30, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

She seems to genuinely care about being an A

and fans. I love that. I couldn’t name an A’s wife before they came along

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we don't keep Brandon

can we keep Amanda?

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

jamie kotsay!

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

ill help

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

ohhh easy joke...

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

oooh boy

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Um, it that being filed in your room somewhere???

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Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

busted

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

filed?

I dont even know what that means.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ground him!

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

woahhhhh

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to offer to pay him.

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

She's hot but no ass.

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by kenntoe on Jul 30, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely.

They sound like they love it here. I get that impression from Josh too, but then not so much his wife

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course

but it’s kind of….awkward to say all these things when players always stay quite about rumors

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I lof her.

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by mikev on Jul 30, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty simple: Keep Josh and trade Ginger.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

She's really cute though...

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

She's also a professional athlete's wife

Not making a judgment on this, but they usually have wives most of us would consider to be beautiful.

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by Flashfire on Jul 30, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Especially daric barton's ;)

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate you more than you know

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Get em' MO!

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

she's orange. yuck.

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love you guys more than you know

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes, dear

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

A friend of mine got into it with Daric Barton's wife in the stands.

He kept calling him some names and well, she didn’t like it. He told her to enjoy Triple A on her way out. LOL.

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by kenntoe on Jul 30, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm...

They’re often too “generic baseball wife” looking to me. It’s a vapid look I don’t care for.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

this.

I’m impressed by how “real” the majority of the A’s WAG’s are

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

At Breslow's Blackjack charity event,

I was really pleased to see Jerry Blevins with a woman who was non-causasian (of Asian descent, IIRC). She was nice, perfectly attractive, and so different from most you’ll see.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why? What does it matter?

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by mikev on Jul 30, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

The point being, it seems like so many players

choose the exact same woman — there’s a “look” which is white, skinny, usually blonde, very “generic pretty” (IMO). It’s nice to see some variation from the “stereotype”.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think mikev's question is still relevant

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

That in a world where so many players

seem to seek only a really specific look that encompasses a sliver of the population, it’s nice to see an exception? Well, that’s my opinion, sorry.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I share your opinion, Nico.

I completely agree that the guys can marry whoever they want, and being open to all shapes and sizes includes not being against thin blonde women. But I just don’t agree with those who suggest you shouldn’t notice at all. Unlike Dr King, I don’t dream of a colorblind society. I like colors. I don’t want to mistreat anyone based on colors, but I do still want to see the variety of colors and enjoy them.

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by iglew on Jul 30, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

I don’t think any mention of race, or body type, or look, automatically means “racism!” or “__ism!”

Another observation I had at the event, also not intended to judge any type of body type as better or worse, is that in person and in street clothes Blevins did not look as skinny nor did Landon Powell look as heavy. Both “regressed to the mean”!

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

The latter I think is because when

we watch baseball we compare players to other players. It’s the same reason a guy like, say, Tim Hudson looks short as a baseball player but in real life he isn’t really short at all. Only compared to other pitchers.

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Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 30, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe. I thought it was probably more

that perhaps the uniform exaggerated their features.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know, I'm not even going to get into it

but I find that to be a really shitty thing to say.

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by mikev on Jul 30, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course it isn't.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

So basically they love their white girls

Ive noticed that among most A’s platyers wives in recent years

by J.J. Miller on Jul 30, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love white girls. Mostly kate upton

fawn

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

How do we rec this 10x?

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by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

HEY!

She’s my age! You have your own.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh okay.

Well in that case, schedule the wedding.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

is this an "after" from your Photoshop class?

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

In fairness, many baseball wives are too.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

id post pictures of runway shots

but they’re a little scantily clad. and i got in trouble before :(

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some people just don't care for airports.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know, right!

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's a "36L" joke in here somewhere

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Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow seriously. I don't really think a lot of white women are hot.

But Kate Upton is so muther#(U$(*#&% hot it’s ridiculous.

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by kenntoe on Jul 30, 2011 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's the general type

But I think by most standards, they rate above the typical woman in terms of what the average guy finds attractive.

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by Flashfire on Jul 30, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is a VORP a silicon ratio?

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Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

*silicone*

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hi-tech typo, sorry

Or they could be from Stepford.

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Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does it give insurance tips?

Like between Kaiser and Health Nut?

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your toaster is a woman?

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

What, you thought he toasted gay bread?

Not that there’s anything rye with that.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

you crack me up dude. lol

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm the rare guy who can offend you and amuse you in the same thread.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

you didn't offend me.

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

TBH I was baffled by the response

If 90% of ballplayers dated women with "red hair, freckles, and who were "heavy set I’d find it noteworthy when I saw an exception to that too. It was a comment on how so many players choose one narrow type more than anything else. It’s a bit eerie to see the similarities sometimes.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only judgment I was aiming to make is that I was pleased to see

anything that was far away from the “norm”. Partly the “norm” kind of creeps me out. It’s such a specific look/type.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I only converse with guys in a certain height bracket.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's true. i'm short

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since when are girls not interesting?

I LOVE talking about girls. Can we talk about Kate Upton again?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I propose Coco Crisp for Kate Upton

I would go to games to watch her play CF.

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Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha!

She hates baseball though.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then she'd be his dad and would hate baseball.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

No photos of WhizMom in bikinis are currently available.

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Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank god for that.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

It seems to be a basic "model" appearance

Which, for all we know, may be what most of them prefer.

I know I would, but maybe not to an extreme.

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by Flashfire on Jul 30, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well i would too.

Blonde, skinny, and hot is totally my type.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully no golddiggers involved

I ain’t got much gold to dig anyway.

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by Flashfire on Jul 30, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

SO JUDGMENTAL TOWARDS GOLD-DIGGERS!!!!!!!!!!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's how he gets that "cutting action" on his fastball.

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

'snot bad.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I prefer the opposite

brunette, non caucasian (or at least mixed)

by J.J. Miller on Jul 30, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you should compile a large statistical sampling -

of both bathing suit and lingerie shots – and let us be the judge if your point is really valid or not.

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Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Will do.

I’m gonna need a sizable grant and meal money.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

$1.50 and I buy you a beer?

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

DONE

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tomorrow, section 219

I want color glossies though.

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Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly, it's as much the women's choice as the men.

A person has a certain amount of control over how she looks. Not everything, obviously, but a lot of the “look” you discuss is self-created (and even more if you include surgery). I think the sort of woman who wants to marry a ball player is far more likely to strive for that look.

I’m not sure if you’re drawing your WAG sample from real life or just from pictures, but if you’re only looking at pictures (as is the case for most fans) it’s even more true because then (1) they have more control over which pictures get out, and (2) the sample is selected for those WAGs who choose to let themselves be photographed a lot.

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 30, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is deep

But, I take exception with “A person has a certain amount of control over how she looks.” As a man, this is difficult for me. I find I have almost no control over how she looks.

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Try withholding sex.

I actually suggest that at your wife’s request.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

You saw the billboard too eh?

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dbacks looking at relievers

Wouldnt mind Collin Cowgill n return, maybe for ziegler??
A’s drafted him but went back to school. B- prospect by Sickles

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2011/7/29/2301917/prospect-of-the-day-collin-cowgill-of-arizona-diamondbacks

by J.J. Miller on Jul 30, 2011 12:51 PM PDT reply actions  

DDJ would pass through?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like a kidney stone.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you mean to use the "sarcasm font"?

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, thanks then.

This certainly wasn’t intended to be propaganda — though it openly cites propaganda for its thesis.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

if not for him, then me.

I feel pressured to want a good prospect.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't worry, kid. We'll get a bad prospect instead.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Phew.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not a bad deal for Cummins, kid.

Twomey will actually get you comp picks when he walks this year, too.

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by mikev on Jul 30, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks.

i ran it by LCG. It was the best i was going to get without sending money or taking too much on

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have there been any rumors about Matsui being moved?

Is there even a market for him?

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 1:23 PM PDT reply actions  

very small ones,

and nope.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only think I've heard

is no teams have called about him.

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay here's a trade.

Stringer Bell and Ron Swanson for Tony Soprano. Get it done.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I'd much rather have Ron Swanson.

What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.

by winchester5 on Jul 30, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

And 5 pounds of steak

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Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, wait.

I’m worried what you just heard was, “a lot of bacon and eggs”.

by danmerqury on Jul 30, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

BACONNNNN

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fine.

But i really think we should target Omar.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's all in the game.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Jul 30, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pull got traded to Philadelphia

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bourn...

Wandy Rodriguez…

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

I can only name Brett Wallace now that Hunter Pence is gone

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funny Brett Wallace fact

After his ZOMG-Bean-trades-away-future-All-Stars April, Brett Wallace has exactly same OPS as Kurt Suzuki’s 2011

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ouch.

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

Quite a few people should be kneeling in the corner now

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please stand up, please stand up.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

get whizdad to explain the joke

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

slim shady?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

old tv game show

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought that was "Come on down"

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, Jack Cust and the Devil walk into a bar...

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

and the bartender looks up OPS and says,

“Hey it’s 666 — and the devil!”

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Impressive!

You thought of that one all on your own too!

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

BABIP?

Babe acquisition by interesting propositions?

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

batting average on balls in play

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mine's better.

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

i've told him before.

he likes trying to be funny

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I know I'd rather hang around with my BABIP guy than yours.

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

ooooh point stm.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'd rather hang out with my babip's mama

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I figured I'd catch the strays...

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

see whizmom really needs to be on the site

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

This was pre-WhizMom

I’m a good boy. Plus my eyes are shot so I can see anything clearly anymore anyway.

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Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah and read japanese on the right field wall too.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmm, got it

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

So desu ne

Actually, great seats for fireworks viewing.

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha they were adorable.

pam and i were talking to your sis about one of your nieces playing softball. it was hilarious

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I heard mostly about the seeds.

but thats legit.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome.

That was cool your family could come.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

we're a baseball family.

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

.637 for both

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

SUBTRACT APRIL

:D

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

why would you do that?

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

because his BABIP was like .417 or something.

B was just making a point that Wallace since april is just as bad as Zooks

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

You shouldn't.

But elcroata was just saying that his April was a mirage.

by danmerqury on Jul 30, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I am not saying that his post-April is his true talent level, one should never discard a certain time period, unless there is a really good reason for that. That’s why it’s a “funny fact”, especially as there were numerous people on this site who hailed him as the second coming of Pujols after his hot April

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

no problem

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you dont count April, for wallace.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

exactly

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

damn Red Sox aquire Mike Aviles from the Royals

http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/6819033/boston-red-sox-send-yamaico-navarro-kansas-city-royals-acquire-mike-aviles

I’ve always liked Aviles. The Royals got Yamaico Navarro, INF, Grade C+, and number 15 in the Red Sox farm according to Sickels. Along with RHP; Kendal Volz.

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Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Why do THEY want Aviles?

Don’t they have Scutaro and Lowrie still in the mix? Or did I miss an injury?

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah that was an unusual pickup. They seem to have a lot of INFs

My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

To trade him to the A's

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

And no, I'm not kidding

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lowrie, maybe.

Aviles DNW

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DURRRR THEY’RE TOO OLD, BABIP IS TOO HIGH, TOO MANY Ks, DURRRRRR

by mikev on Jul 30, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah. Lowrie's injured though.

He’s been dealing with shoulder issues for a while now.

by NateHST on Jul 30, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

A true A

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

they all suck

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lowrie's hurt too

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, so they're insane.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hope not.

I don’t think he’s very good. He had one great season fueled by a spike in BABIP, then got hurt and reverted to suck.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I HATE THE EAGLES

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by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

FUCK WHATEVER TEAM YOU ROOT FOR

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ha!

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

CONGRATULATIONS

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

K.

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"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

(I know. He was a niner, and he was an asshole.)

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

I don’t find his antics amusing.

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do.

Used to be a great WR too.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

easy hall of famer

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

He should be

but I bet he has problems getting in on his first time through…..a lot of writers hate him.

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep.

probably 2nd or 3rd time

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really? I think that was the highlight of his career.

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I liked the Sharpie one the best. If you score, you should be able to sign your own ball and give it to a fan.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on Jul 30, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like you a little less now

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Jul 30, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

There couldn't be a worse team to root for than the Cowboys.

And I say this as a Raider fan.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on Jul 30, 2011 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

California Statutory Code c12567ss28b

It is illegal to be a Cowboys fan in California.

It’s the law.

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

because the law has stopped me before.

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I say that every time I light up.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on Jul 30, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

You'll never catch me

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Jul 30, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Marquis to the dbacks

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:44 PM PDT reply actions  

nope.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's why they only had to give C- prospects for him

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why SBN made their site work this way, I'll never know.

The page won’t load the comment refresh mechanics until it talks to fbcdn.net (it’s a facebook thing). And if the fbcdn server is down…no more comment refreshes.

[reloads the page, again]

by danmerqury on Jul 30, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps it's God's way of saying "Facebook sucks"?

Just a theory.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

youre welcome

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, how's that working?

I have no idea – I just see the weird tweets in the ad. How does one make those appear that way?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

And then anything you tweet will be posted in that ad?

I can’t believe that. And if it IS true, why aren’t I seeing comments about goats and whip cream?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or,

“Man I used Head & Shoulders shampoo this morning and all my hair just fell out. Hey, where’d my penis go????”

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be awesome.

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 30, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

they are missing #lounge in their tweets

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

shhhhhhhh

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

its easier if you use the widget.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

That flipped me out when I saw ANers in there.

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 30, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

flagged.

personal attack on a website. :D

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

that'd be amusing.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

also homophobia

(Or possibly heterophobia, not sure.)

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 30, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Soooooo many jokes made on Cowboys and Aliens actually being about Arizona.

It was maybe funny the first time, why are they still being made?

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Heh!

Okay, that’s pretty funny.

by danmerqury on Jul 30, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was.

But im still seeing people on twitter make them. This is the latest,

“Cowboys & Aliens” sounds like the title of a new Republican anti-immigration bill.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know.

but its obnoxious when everyone thinks they’re the first one to come up with it.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loose use of the word jokes there.

good thing you put it in quotes.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

STILL FUNNY

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crisp, WIllingham, and Harden should all be dealt

standing pat would just be irresponsible

"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"

http://www.domingobeisbol.com/

by hero66 on Jul 30, 2011 1:59 PM PDT reply actions  

you've stopped?

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep...I have

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

"mostly"

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Proud of you ;)

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Sorry"

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha!

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

told you im funny.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are funny

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't you mean

“funny”?

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

"maybe"

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, we're here to discuss supermodels, not baseball

What’s this trade conversation crap???

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

you've learned quickly.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would?

What if no offers come in that are any good?

by danmerqury on Jul 30, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be irresponsible on part of the other GMs

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depends on your definition of good

if they command a return equal to or better than the alternative (in Willingham’s case, 2 draft picks, in Harden’s case, nothing, and in Crisp’s case, maybe a supplemental pick) then they have to do it.

"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"

http://www.domingobeisbol.com/

by hero66 on Jul 30, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why would they have to do it if the return is equal?

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because it's better to take

the prospects who are already established and doing well in the minors, especially since we haven’t drafted that well lately.

"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"

http://www.domingobeisbol.com/

by hero66 on Jul 30, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

If one side is better, then the offer is not equal

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Woah! Mind. Blown.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sometimes, going back to basics is the only way

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh?

I think you’re missing my point.

I’m talking about guys who have the talent of a supplemental/1st round/etc pick, or were drafted there themselves.

"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"

http://www.domingobeisbol.com/

by hero66 on Jul 30, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

And

it would give us a chance to see what we have with guys like Taylor and Miller. Riding this current roster to a maybe .500 record does nothing for us.

"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"

http://www.domingobeisbol.com/

by hero66 on Jul 30, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then you made a bad point
if they command a return equal to the alternative

talent alone does not define the quality of return. of course that a first rounder who panned out is more valuable than first rounder next year. but if they get such player, then they are getting higher return than the alternative, not equal.

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh

So what is equal then?

"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"

http://www.domingobeisbol.com/

by hero66 on Jul 30, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Equal is what Billy Beane puts in his coffee when he's not making a trade.

See news story below

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

GO DO YARDWORK

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHY DON'T YOU HELP HIM?!

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"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cuz i'm a minor and that's child abuse.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

You aren't a nice son who would like to help his father?!

CUT HIM OFF WHIZDAD!

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

you ungrateful bastard

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes.

thats me

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

alright, carry on then

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

i thought you were gradening?

the artist formerly known as inbillywetrust

by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

*gardening

the artist formerly known as inbillywetrust

by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

gradening sounds fun

I’ll go try that.

Is it like “tradening”?

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, that's for GMs to find out

But think of it as a video game where you can create a character and you have points that you can divide between “potential” and “living up to the potential”. I guess they are trying to find players whose total points add up

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

.
Ken Arneson
Doubting that the A’s make any trades. All their availables are other teams’ Plan C, & teams don’t give up good prospects for Plan C.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Jul 30, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Either a) choking or b) beating the 49ers

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

we are?

shooooooooot

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dear ad block plus,

Be more proactive blocking ads in Google Reader, nuking them one by one is getting annoying.

Thanks.

by Copenhagen on Jul 30, 2011 2:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Dear anyone who sends out spam:

Please die immediately.

Thanks.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except those enlargement ads.

Oh, and the prince of Nigeria. He’s cool.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's so amazingly generous!

That reminds me, I need to check the mail.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still my fav play on the Nigeria scam

I MUST SOLICIT YOUR STRICTEST CONFIDENCE FOR THIS URGENT BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY. WE ARE TOP OFFICIAL OF LOS ANGELES DODGERS BASEBALL ORGANIZATION WHO ARE INTERESTED IN MEDIA OPPORTUNITIES WITH FOX NETWORK WITH FUNDS CURRENTLY TRAPPED BY MLB. IN ORDER TO COMMENCE TRANSACTIONS WE SOLICIT YOUR ASSISTANCE TO ENABLE TRANSACTIONS TO ACCESS SUCH FUNDS. WE ARE LOOKING FOR A PARTNER WE CAN DO BUSINESS WITH AND TRANSFER SUMS OF THREE BILLIONS US DOLLARS ($3,000,000,000) INTO AN ACCOUNT. ALL THAT IS REQUIRED IS $30 MILLION IN TRANSFER FEES AND TAXES NEEDED TO RELEASE THE FULL THREE BILLION DOLLARS. PLEASE NOTE THIS TRANSACTION IS 100% SAFE. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING BUSINESS WITH YOU AND SOLICIT YOUR STRICTEST CONFIDENTIALITY IN THIS MATTER.

YOUR FAITHFULLY
FRANK MCCOURT

by Copenhagen on Jul 30, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dear Sir or Madam
DO NOT, REPEAT, DO NOT REGARD THE PREVIOUS EMAIL AS IT WAS A SCAM. SEND ALL YOUR MONEYS TO ME AND I WILL PROVE YOU TO IT.

YOUR FAITHFULLY
JAMIE MCCOURT

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha!

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn posts get in the way, huh?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

pandora update: iron maiden - the trooper!

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 2:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Interesting.
JaneMLB
#Athletics lineup not yet posted.

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 2:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Great.

We can’t trade any of our players and now Bob Melvin can’t even find a pushpin.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a whiteboard,

so we’re even cheaper than i thought if they can’t replace a dry erase marker.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do they normally post the lineup 4 hours before the game?

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes, thats how i tell you

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

4 hours?

You’ve been holding out. You only tell me one hour ahead of time.

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

ehh youd forget anyway

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Forget what?

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

I think it is/could be significant if Lee has to tweet about it

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

You always care the most.

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

24 days a year, 7 hours a week?

the artist formerly known as inbillywetrust

by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

7 days a year, 24 minutes a week?

the artist formerly known as inbillywetrust

by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

is it the 12 minutes where you talk A's?

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Jul 30, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it means nothing at all.

Lineups can be posted and altered until they are exchanged.

by Copenhagen on Jul 30, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I only think it is significant

because she felt the need to tweet that it’s not up. That’s never happened before.

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reminds me of

Naked gun

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

You almost embed a pic!

proud of you :)

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someday I'll figure out how to post a photo.

Drat

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

you did it!!!!

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

But only once.

Won’t happen again

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now, if you could only get the carriage return after the picture

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

so close.

but it’s an improvement!

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I thought as well.....hmmmmmmm why is it tweet worthy that the line-up is not out!?

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Jul 30, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously.

The trade deadline needs to be over.

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish it were always like this.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

It really is kind of fun

but it’s nerve wracking when it could be your own team

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's better when you're buying.

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

this.

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I tweet that all the time and nobody cares

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's cuz it was in german.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

and a lineup
JaneMLB
#Athletics vs. #Twins: Weeks 2B, Crisp CF, Matsui LF, Willingham DH, DeJesus RF, Jackson 1B, Pennington SS, Sizemore 3B, Powell C

by Copenhagen on Jul 30, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Btw Storen for Span.

As I said earlier this week Denard Span -Drew Storen deal will go down it’s a matter of time:secondary players have to be agreed to-Bowden

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Absolutely, positively time to do the yard work.

Have fun. I expect trade updates throughout the sweeping, pruning and mowing please.

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Ughhhh fine.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

And a cold drink every 45 minutes.

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

And a shrubbery

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not too big

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

A shrubbery?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

and once you have the shrubbery you shall say??

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Jul 30, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

"NI!!!! NI!!!!"

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Two points awarded to Castle Anthrax

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lance Berkman is a FA again this year AND we might have 1B open....

Can we throw a truckload of money at him on a 2 year deal? If he sucks then whatever we will just put Barton back there….but I think he’s pretty good. I’d also offer him RF if that’s where he wants to play.

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 2:18 PM PDT reply actions  

How about we not and say we dont?

I really would not like to overpay on a mid 30 year old outfielder.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes lets go for that spritely young superstar Josh Willingham instead!

I’d rather not have guys who are in the top 5 for HR, top 50 is a way smarter move….smh

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did i suggest the other?

All im saying is he’s gunna be overpaid after this huge season, which he totally has smashed in. AND he didn’t wanna come here last offseason, why would that change? smh.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

PL78 felt like setting up a strawman, I guess

I wouldn’t mind keeping Willingham and I don’t think they’d have to overpay much for him anyway.

They’ll have to overpay for pretty much any good FA hitter, though.

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by Flashfire on Jul 30, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

true.

Im fine with resigning Willingham, should be a manageable contract. If we were gunna go way of filling 1B and spending tons of money, why not just go with Prince? He didn’t mind playing in Milwaukee, so i dont think location’s a problem.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't underestimate the power of a new stadium and bratwurst

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's vegetarian.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah much better.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not to offend anyone here

But Miller Park is to Coliseum what Porsche is to Del Boy’s tricycle (of course, nobody here watched “Only fools and horses”)

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Prince Fielder at Miller Park

560 SLG at Miller Park in his career
513 SLG in all away games in his career

Fine by me.

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why are you so concerned about money?

We have been trying to spend for years now and we have internal backup options, if overpaying someone by $5M or so is the only thing standing in the way of being a better team, why not?

Considering Hammer has a 1.0 WAR right now and Berkman a 3.2, we’d be stupid to take Hammer without at least putting in a bid for Berkman. Simply put, Berkman is a much, much healthier and better all round player than Willingham. I’d hate to have Wilingham back unless its a plan C and we have no choice.

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ideally we get both and contend.

1B: Barton
2B: Weeks
SS: Pennington
3B: Sizemore
LF: Taylor
CF: Crisp
RF: Berkman
DH: Fielder

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

we're resigning crisp too?

And what a terrible defense.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can't be any worse than what we have now.

In fact Taylor is pretty good and Barton might not be broken next year therefore better.

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Indeed, after 10 games of throwing ground balls,

the pitchers might go on strike.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well no wonder!

they’re throwing the wrong way if they’re throwing ground balls!

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, I was just trying to get Gio to include more strikes.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's Suzuki's job!

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

ZING

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hm?

Barton’s a plus defender, as is Crisp. Weeks, Sizemore and Taylor all figure to be about neutral to slightly above. Berkman’s bad, and Pennington probably is, too.

I’d be completely surprised if any of this actually happened, but I really don’t think that defense would hurt us too much.

by NateHST on Jul 30, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure Weeks is neutral to above average,

nor Taylor (who looked pretty lost in LF the times I saw him). Weeks’ arm is a real problem, and his judgment is iffy (and probably always will be, but will hopefully improve).

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was under the impression Taylor was a decent defender.

TZ says he’s not, so there’s that. Weeks’ arm can’t be any worse than Ellis’. His range seems good to my eye test. He should be at least neutral, IMO.

by NateHST on Jul 30, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weeks' arm is way worse than Ellis'

unless you’re only talking about “throw velocity”. Ellis has a quick release, terrific accuracy, and makes throws “the best way possible” almost all of the time, whereas the opposite is currently the case with Weeks.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm ok with Barton leading off

But Fielder batting ninth seems harsh

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Duh

It’s to protect Berkman!

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

wRC+ 168. beast.

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

gotta love it!

My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

ugh i wish i had rememeberd to watch it!

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Surprised about lack of interest in A's relievers

We’ve heard high price for bailey, but only rangers connected. Maybe beane also asking also for breslow, ziegler, balfour…wuertz, fuentes are terrible

by J.J. Miller on Jul 30, 2011 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

High asking price, low offers is my guess

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

i like i like

My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really wish Pirates make the postseason

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was glued to the "radio" (laptop) for the 19 inning game

I was pushing hard for them.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did paint thinner solve that?

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure enhanced my mood.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Always figured you for more of a gasoline guy

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

must not have been superglue

thank goodness

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Jul 30, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

What exactly

do the Pirates have to offer?

That rug really tied the room together...

by Streams Of Whiskey on Jul 30, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

PEDRO ALVAREZ

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe we just trade Oakland for Pittsburgh straight up

Pittsburgh comes with three nice rivers.

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

And a shiny stadium.

That rug really tied the room together...

by Streams Of Whiskey on Jul 30, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oooooh beat me to it

GMTA

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Jul 30, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

CHRIS DAVIS TRADED

not to the A’s.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:22 PM PDT reply actions  

To Japan?

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Close.

Orioles.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

sorry, "close".

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rosenthal
Confirmed: #Rangers obtaining Uehara from #Orioles for two major leaguers including Davis. #tradedeadline #MLB

by J.J. Miller on Jul 30, 2011 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Well that's practically the same as getting Heath Bell or Andrew Bailey.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

heyyy i just said that.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Josh Hamilton is the other major leaguer.

dream\

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bummer. He sucks, so I want TEX to keep him.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I though it would be Dirk Nowitzky

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

well

bailey’s not going anywhere

"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"

http://www.domingobeisbol.com/

by hero66 on Jul 30, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

damn that is a great trade for Texas

They get a good RP and didn’t have to give up any of their best prosepcts

My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's how I see it too.

I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 30, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it bad that I am wearing my rally cap right now?

Damnit, the deadline needs to stop being the highlight of every A’s season already….

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 2:29 PM PDT reply actions  

BREAKING NEWS!

Billy Beane went with cream and sugar in his coffee this morning….once again….cream and sugar.

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 2:29 PM PDT reply actions  

He's gunna do something big!

i can feel it

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I figured Beane would go more for Tea

My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hen?

Garden?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Herbal with a pinch of grass from the Coliseum

My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL...............Bringing Laughter.

wink wink

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Jul 30, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha!

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

from Jeff Sullivan
Toronto Blue Jays general manager Alex Anthopoulos and Oakland Athletics general manager Billy Beane have held several conversations, because they are friends.

link

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 30, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is AA giving Billy lessons on how to make terrific deals?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whew......SU Slu just posted a line-up!

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Jul 30, 2011 2:32 PM PDT reply actions  

noooooooooooooooooooooooo

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

dammit!

My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had a dream i think where the a's made a killer trade.

but then again, it was just a dream…

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:32 PM PDT reply actions  

I was sharing the SFW version.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

It might go like this.

I had a dream. Then i woke up.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had a dream about Andrew Bailey.

I won’t tell you about it because there are children here.

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trufax.

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gr8

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was Barton in it?

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's in everything

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, you, Bailey and Barton were in a dream

Was it the Barton and Bailey Circus?

Were Ozzie and Jose the Ringling Brothers?

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the first one.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Sure. Something like that.

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

you mean, you?

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

You, actually.

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh that's right.

I’ll go play with my toys…

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

good boy

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Note: I did not mispost that photo for him

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

i posted that correctly!

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Photo of a box with a red x in top corner

Always one of my favorites, next to poker playing dogs

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

works for me?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

empty your cache and it won't.

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 30, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh.

too bad.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

.
Susan Slusser
#Athletics vs. #Twins: Weeks 2b, Crisp cf, Matsui lf, Willingham DH, DeJesus rf, Jackson 1b, Pennington ss, Sizemore 3b, Powell c

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by Flashfire on Jul 30, 2011 2:33 PM PDT reply actions  

i was just about to say that!

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Too slow

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

you're "right"

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

"I know"

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depends.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nico

you took your be funny pill today and its working marvelously well, kudos.

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you!

Hopefully the same is true of your Depends.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Suzuki is traded

We will certainly find out!

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

still, they could be trade mid-game, post-game, I hope.

My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's happened before.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, it happened to Canseco

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did it happen to Canseco by any chance?

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ozzie was never involved

Speaking of Esther Canseco

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

what?

looks like lady gaga

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

They're actually the same person

Notice the resemblence

insert @%$*%! photo here

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

i dont get it.

you’ll have to start using height tags

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, Matsui looks strange on this one

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oooh, I did that one even worse!

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure, but it happened before I think

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

not by chance, by cruelty.

“i feel like I’m playing in an all-star game, where you wear the uniform for a day and go home. only this time you don’t go home.”

by AV on Jul 30, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Happened to Canseco

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what happened with Pence

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember watching it happen to Jeff Leonard too

One flap down was such a cool guy….also, I am roughly 70 years old.

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I definitely skipped over Willingham on accident.

I need to stop reading so fast

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

really?!

Not a bad move

My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

good move

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

in that it's not a terrible move.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's a scrub

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

but a local scrub!

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

LGHS too.

which is where i live, for the most part

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's better than that evil son of Satan Gradkowski

I just hope Campbell stays healthy along with McFadden.

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

McFadden's key.

I like him a lot

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I say we reconsider the Yanks

Gio to the Yankees for Montero and Manny Banuelos; or Montero and Brett Gardner. BTW, Mariano Rivera said that Manny Banuelos is the best pitching prospect he has ever seen.

My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 2:38 PM PDT reply actions  

no thanks.

Gio will stay here and be my best friend forever.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would prefer we ship Cahill

But, I think teams are catching on….

My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

To the fact that he's a good pitcher?

In the National League he’d almost never face the Yankees!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really like Cahill

He just leaves me so confused sometimes as to what he is doing out there.

My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

i "agree"

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

in a perfect world

They would be our #1 and #2 for years to come, and we wouldn’t have to worry that our only way to land a Top Hitting Prospect would be by dealing either 1 or both of our Top 3 players.

My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, Cahill is probably one of the Top 20-30 Pitchers in the game as of now

I’d like to see a list.

My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have one.

Does it need to have anything to do with baseball?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahaha

I have plenty of lists that are totally unrelated. Always Great reads.

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Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Off the Top of my head

1. Halladay 2. Verlander 3. Weaver 4. CC 5. Kershaw 6. Cliff Lee 7. Beckett 8. Lincecum 9. Jurrjens 10. Josh Johnson 11. Zack Grenkie 12. Hamels 13. Masterson 14. Cain 15. Dan Haren 16.A James Shields16.B GIO!?!? 17. Tommy Hanson 18. Johnny Cueto 19. C.J. Wilson 20. David Price 21. Jon Lester 22. Clay Buckholtz 23. Tim Hudson 24. Jamie Garcia 25. Carpenter 26. Trevor Cahill!?!?!? 27. Shawn Marcum 28. Jordan Zimmerman 29. Kuroda 30. Billingsley 31. Morrow 32. Scherzer 33. Jimenez 34. Latos 35. Garza 36. Sanchez 37. Ervin Santana 38. Oswalt 39. Holland 40. Gallardo……………

Etc. Etc. I’m sure I missed a few good pitchers. But Cahill has to be a Top 30 Talent at this point

My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

well I'm only 24 and I think I'm losing some hair as well!

My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

In terms of WAR, he's the 76th best pitcher in MLB this year.

If you are talking in terms of contract and stuff, probably a little higher, top 40-50.

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

fangraphs has him 65 by WAR

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

thats out of "qualified only"

I don’t like excluding those who aren’t qualified, I change the min IP to 10 IP when looking at WAR.

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

so relievers get captured too then?

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its just an arbitrary thing, its the lowest number they have as an option.

You can also use “all players” if you wish but there’s a ton of guys who only come up for 1-10 IP.

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless you hit Pierzynski with a pitch. Twice.

You get 10 WAR bonus for that

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

NEED MOAR GRIT

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe he hasn't faced vicente padilla yet

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sometimes, I picture him charging the mound against Nolan and getting Venturad to pieces

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's always awesome

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by stm72 on Jul 30, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, so were you increasing or decreasing the minimum?

I mean, even 10 IP is nothing right now for a reliever if you’re looking to judge WAR.

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by Flashfire on Jul 30, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah its just to trim the flock

I sometimes use 30 IP or 50 IP too. Totally arbitrary. Its to get those SPs who are kicking ass but who aren’t qualified, like McCarthy.

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

well damn! That would have been easier.....I just was thinkning of teams and all their pitchers

And where I thought they ranked in terms of stuff and potential. haha

My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

PECOTA Rest-of-season, starters, both leagues, by WARP

Cahill is 23rd, Gio is 44th, McCarthy is 95th. This includes both relievers and starters, but the highest reliever on the list is 68th (sensibly).

I’m still not entirely sure how BPro’s pitcher WARP is calculated, but I wanted to use a projection system for the question to try to get at how good the players are right now, as opposed to how good they’ve been.

by doctawojo on Jul 30, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

that'd be nice

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Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw Alonso bat yesterday,

so I now have a large sample of one to offer this analysis…His swing seemed really long to me. Then he lined a single to right.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wuertz to DL

Him throwing 87 mph lately, this was expected. Blevins back

by J.J. Miller on Jul 30, 2011 2:48 PM PDT reply actions  

you already tried this!

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

huh?

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

this.

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 30, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know this?

Small things can lead to drops in velocity.

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by Flashfire on Jul 30, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speculation

Who knows if it does or if it doesnt? It can explain no bite on the slider, but velocity it seems wouldnt be affected.

by Glomar on Jul 30, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whereas your statement is a fact?

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

Maybe I should have elaborated. I think there is something else wrong. Maybe he has Bobby Crosby disease.

by Glomar on Jul 30, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not after Melvin broke it for him

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blevins now conditional optioned to DFA

Darold Knowles recalled

I saw it on News of the World

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

DWishinsky had a thing on that.

It was technically a DFA but really he was just being sent down all along. I forget the details.

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 30, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

its because things cant be done on the weekend or something like that

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

we talked about you yesterday

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

of course

not.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

still no sleep?

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had a nice 3 hour nap.

So I’ll be ready for the CT thread.

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

wooohoo.

it’ll be fun tonight

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's where face is after 2 six packs

Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?

by WhizDad on Jul 30, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here is what I see as the problem
However, we wonder how this will be policed. Will the state be allowed access to Facebook accounts, personal computers or Internet service provider records to see who’s befriending teachers or students?

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Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Jul 30, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Simple workaround is forcing school to be listed in profile for minors then not allowing them to friend teachers to the same school. But that would require parents not just letting kids fill out their own profile etc.

by Copenhagen on Jul 30, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

What? Next thing they'll forbid sex between teachers and students

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

WOAH WOAH WOAH

Let’s not get precipitous here.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah i hate it when it rains

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think thats a good idea

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Private tutoring FTW!

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 30, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

For the record,

I did a load of laundry by myself today.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:50 PM PDT reply actions  

It's time for one more episode of

the wire!

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 2:58 PM PDT reply actions  

jerk.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

other alternate endings:

lynch directs the wire: the whole series is a dream by the guy who swiped the craps game as he transmogrifies into the bum in the 5th season.

cronenberg directs the wire: the reason it’s called WMDs is that it sends pulses of biosoftware up the junkies’ noses and through your TV screen to install bal’more culture and recordings of certain quotable lines into the brains of the show’s viewers.

waters directs the wire: the virgin mary appears to omar and because she thinks he’s pretty hunky re-ordains the city so that all the politicos have to live in hamsterdam in an endless sordid quest for an unreachable perfect bureaucracy while the junkies and the hoppers live in the rest of the city where honey-nut cheerios, drugs, and drug money flow from every park fountain leaving the po-po with nothing to do so they turn to their primary preoccupation: raunchy porn.

by AV on Jul 30, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

You guys have telegraph shows? Nice

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by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep.

old fashioned baby.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Raiders dont get Gaither.

HAHA

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 3:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Source?

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

here

ClaytonESPN John Clayton
 by KLongworthCSN
The Raiders re-signed Khalif Barnes to a one-year deal to be the starting right tackle. Raiders decided not to sign Ravens T Jared Gaither.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

.

Instead, the Raiders agreed to a one-year deal to bring back Khalif Barnes. Clayton said Barnes is currently slated to start at right tackle. If third-round pick Joe Barksdale comes on strong, perhaps he’ll join Jared Veldheer as a starter.

by Copenhagen on Jul 30, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

The offensive line this year could be a joke.

young guys and guys who never had much.

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah it will be pretty awful

not that that would be new

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by hero66 on Jul 30, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, christ.

I heard he had failed his physical, I guess it was worse than we thought.

by danmerqury on Jul 30, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

ouch.

he’s SOO good too. i’d be fine with the niners taking a flier on him, though i guess that doesnt make any sense.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

also
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Pirates/Oakland talks over Willingham are dead; never really got cranked up, actually

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 3:12 PM PDT reply actions  

lol

You just know Beane was trying to fleece them for Tallion….

by PL78 on Jul 30, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

full version
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Pirates/Oakland talks over Willingham are dead; never really got cranked up, actually, but I just wanted to mess with people whose life revolves around jumping on every twitter about trades there is

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

much better

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 30, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Draft pick compensation

If the A’s dealt Willingham and then signed him back in the offseason, would that cost them a draft pick?

by David Fucillo on Jul 30, 2011 3:15 PM PDT reply actions  

yes i believe so fooch.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks

One more issue to factor into whether or not to deal him.

by David Fucillo on Jul 30, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, unless you work out a contract thing

where he cant be offered arbitration. otherwise i think regular rules apply

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think he'll be type A

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

gotcha.

yeah makes sense

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have fun

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

have fun man

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Enjoy

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right now I'm feeling 6-7 wins for the Raiders

I think Hue Jackson might be an upgrade at HC but I’m not liking anything else they’re doing…..still time to get a few guys though.

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 3:16 PM PDT reply actions  

That's how Astros fans feel, too

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Jul 30, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

They need to resign Zack Miller

And get at least 1 good free agent in the Secondary….McFadden was a beast last year! I think they could win 8 or 9

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Ghost of Geren and the Ghost of Gallery

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Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha!

But seriously, folks....

by B-E-D on Jul 30, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, Barcelona vs. Man U at 4 on ESPN2?

I’ll take it!

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 3:18 PM PDT reply actions  

the PK one? I thought you just meant that they can go into PKs today

Because it is a “CHAMPIONSHIP” after all. haha

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

nick's hot GF is back

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 3:22 PM PDT reply actions  

the Brother is a freaking g.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

.
Susan Slusser
Bob Melvin says that there will be some pitchers’ fielding practice in the offing soon. #Athletics pitchers have not fared well defensively

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Jul 30, 2011 3:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes, please.

It’s been embarrassing.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heard this:

GM’s hold pool party; laugh over how much they have America’s attention.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 3:40 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL
Kevin Goldstein
Between trades, radio calls and the wives of Oakland A’s players being mad at me for something I didn’t even say, it’s been a weird day.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Jul 30, 2011 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I guess Ginger.

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 30, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ginger Willingham?

Say it ain’t so.

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kuroda's not going anywhere

according to buster, he wont waive NTC

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 4:01 PM PDT reply actions  

????

btw can we talk about Brother Mouza or whatever?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes he just showed up.

Freaking BADASS. i love that guy

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

nothing with us anyhow.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is the A's, nothing can happen until a stadium is built somewheres

until then, crickets!

"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto

by emperor nobody on Jul 30, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but are the crickets B- or C+ prospects?

"I wouldn't honestly be surprised if there was a Derek-Jeter’s-d**k-shaped Popsicle concession at Yankee Stadium."- emperor nobody

by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 30, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

Willingham’s wife tweeted that she would be surprised if they were traded

"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli

by cuppingmaster on Jul 30, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pomeranz+others might be headed to the Rockies for Ubaldo.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 4:15 PM PDT reply actions  

here

#rockies asked for pomeranz, kipnis and chisenhall

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then you make that trade everytime.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

What's Ubaldo's contract situation?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

From Cot's

11:$2.8M, 12:$4.2M, 13:$5.75M club option ($1M buyout), 14:$8M club option ($1M buyout)

I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 30, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

From Cot's

11:$2.8M, 12:$4.2M, 13:$5.75M club option ($1M buyout), 14:$8M club option ($1M buyout)
2014 option only if 2013 option is exercised (may void 2014 if traded)

Link

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by RickeyRun on Jul 30, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

This would be awesome for the Indians methinks

@TroyRenck

Rox in serious talks w Indians. Hearing would center around pomeranz Alex white and kipnis

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 30, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

good deal for both sides.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

And he's affordable for them thru 2014.....

Must be really confident that Pomeranz is gonna be the real deal

"The whole world is fueled by bullshit… What? The kid asked me for advice on his science fair project so I’m giving it to him." - shitmydadsays

by RickeyRun on Jul 30, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or they dislike Ubaldo for some reason

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 30, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ubaldo scratched.

deals done

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 4:48 PM PDT reply actions  

this deadline has been such a let down

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Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 4:49 PM PDT reply actions  

OMG Jerry Hariston Jr. trade

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 4:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Indians sending pomeranz white mcbride

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 4:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Not Chisenhall?

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by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

here

http://twitter.com/#!/TroyRenck/status/97454660201365506

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thx.

Doesn’t seem to preclude more being included.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

true.

i could see more players being involved.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

BREAKING NEWS:

BBC World News Breaking News: On my drive home I see this Hakeem Olajuwon jersey hanging from someone’s garage at a yard sale. Already equipped w/the deepest collection of Mid-90’s Throw-Backs in the game, the mint condition jersey of my favorite player of All-Time had always eluded me. Until today. What a find!

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 5:12 PM PDT reply actions  

If only I knew how to add a picture

if only……You’d think after all this time on AN I would have figured it out by now.

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

upload to like flickr first.

then embed.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

how does one "embed"

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

the tree button in a comment bar

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh I see. Thanks WhizKid!

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 30, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

sure thing

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by thewhizkid on Jul 30, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Welp. About five trade threads and 3,000 comments and the A's finally make a trade.

Rich Harden to Boston for Lars Anderson and a PTBNL.

Jayson Stark: #Athletics are getting Lars Anderson & player to be named later from #RedSox for Rich Harden.

via his Twitter

by NateHST on Jul 30, 2011 6:43 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

After all this waiting. I'm not impressed. But thankfully something is done.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on Jul 30, 2011 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, it's good for what, 5 starts of Harden. LOL.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on Jul 30, 2011 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anderson's still only 23 and he used to be an excellent prospect.

He’s still pretty good. Hopefully they bring him up immediately.

by NateHST on Jul 30, 2011 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

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