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Trade Deadline Thread: The One That's On The Front Page!

Yes, the last week of July is largely about rumors with no teeth, but that's still more appealing than my Aunt Bertha, who is an overbearing in-law with no teeth. Let's take a look at the rumors that have two aspects in common: They involve the A's and they have actually been suggested by quasi-reliable (i.e., not just people on AN) sources. I invite you to weigh on with reasonable trades you could see going down involving that A's player and that team...

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Rich Harden: Reportedly scouted yesterday by the Boston Red Sox and New York Yankees, both known to be keen on adding a starting pitcher to their rotation. Harden's value could be enhanced if the Red Sox and Yankees are bidding against one another, and in a way Harden is the consummate end-of-July trade piece: A pitcher who could "be an ace for you for the next 2-3 months" even if it turns out to be the only 2-3 months he's healthy in the next 2-3 years.

Harden / Red Sox trade could look like ___?

Harden / Yankees trade could look like ___?

Coco Crisp: The Braves have reportedly had internal discussions about Crisp, and this makes sense given their need in CF. Coco figures to be a "Type B" free agent at year's end.

Crisp / Braves trade could look like ___?

Josh Willingham: The A's have seemingly been "underwhelmed" by the offers for Willingham, but as his bat continues to heat up he could be, at the very least, a consolation prize for the team that misses out on another target, e.g., Hunter Pence, Carlos Quentin. The trade of Carlos Beltran to the Giants took one more slugging OFer off of the market. One team known to have liked Willingham for years is the Phillies, who are reportedly discussing a big trade for Hunter Pence -- one that looks, based on the rumors, to be a bad one for Philadelphia (rumored to include Jonathan Singleton and Jarred Cosart).

One would think that if that trade doesn't occur, the A's might be able to interest the Phillies in giving up far less than "Singleton, Cosart, and another second-tier pitcher" for Willingham. Willingham is only under contract through the end of the year (Pence is under contract through 2012), but is also currently a Type A free agent in the making.

Willingham / Phillies trade could look like ___?

Andrew Bailey: I suspect the Rangers will wind up trading for Heath Bell, but Bell and Bailey's names have both come up as serious targets for Texas, which appears determined to add a closer in the next 72 hours. Bailey is under contract control through 2014, so the A's would want to get a real haul for a front line (though sometimes injured) closer, with 3.3 years of service time left, who would be sent to the A's chief competitors in the AL West.

Bailey / Rangers trade could look like ___?

Finally, there has been some discussion around other relievers, such as Craig Breslow and Brad Ziegler, but since they are not "centerpiece" types you can use them to round out trades including some of the above "centerpieces". If traded on their own, the deals would likely be relatively unremarkable and probably not worth trying to predict what team or return might be involved.

And of course, the A's might just do nothing and roll with the guys they have the rest of the way. But that's far too dull for the front page, so have it with the trades you think might go down from the above possibilities...and then we'll see what really happens!

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Yes, we should try really hard

to make the Yankees trade all 25 of their players and not get any back.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

rich harden only kinda counts though

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would *HATE* to see Rich Harden on the Yankees.

Ugh, that makes me sad to even think about that possibility.

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jul 29, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

how does this make you feel:

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why's He Laughing?

Wait: let me guess. Teixeira’s mooning him.

by Jason James on Jul 29, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

He saw this happening in the dugout

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I almost didn't recognize him cleanly shaven

it’s like he’s not the same person

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jul 29, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seems like a bad move tactically as well

Since Bailey has 3+ years of team control. You don’t want to be seeing him when the team may be contenders again in 2013.

Unless they get a crazy good haul…

Cardenas!!!! WoooooooooooooHOOOOOOOOO

by Mattel on Jul 29, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

but what if we can trade Bailey for Wash?

24 is my age 22 is my gauge

by catfishunterSthompson on Jul 29, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

No and thank you.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Doesn't Beane usually make trades before the deadline?

By the looks of it, maybe Beane really will stand pat this year at the deadline. I guess Carter and Taylor will be September call-ups.

by TBRMKane on Jul 29, 2011 10:43 AM PDT reply actions  

Those Two

And perhaps someone like Cardenas. It happened last year, though just before the end of the season.

by Jason James on Jul 29, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I Figure

That the team that misses out on Jimenz (Boston/New York) will try harder to get Harden. If the Sox miss out, could we try to get a guy like Reddick? I don’t know much about the boston youngsters?
I don’t want Bailey to go to texas (don’t really want him to go at all), and I don’t think Beane will make a trade within the divison.
And, if Beane isn’t impressed with the offers for Willingham, Josh will still be here after the deadline.

by Jason James on Jul 29, 2011 10:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Beane has traded with Texas quite a lot.

Most recently this year for Guillermo Moscoso.

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by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

he's traded with the angels too right?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Only just barely

In 2006 he traded a AAA pitcher for cash considerations. Other than that, it hasn’t been since 1999 when Bavasi was GM down there.

Beane never traded with Bavasi in Seattle, but he did do one trade with Zduriencik (Hannahan for Souza in summer 2009).

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Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Someone needs to do a

What a Gio to Yankees trade would look like too. Apparently Yankees are hot and heavy for him and Brad Pitt isn’t answering the phone

I’ve been overwhelmed and I’ve been underwhelmed. Can I ever just be whelmed?

by closetasfan on Jul 29, 2011 10:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Nope.

Not enough at all.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

OK;

What if the Yanks make a trade with Atlanta to get Teheran, then offer him, Nunez, Montero and Swisher for Gonzalez.

by Jason James on Jul 29, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Woahhh

that’d be crazy. I dunno, maybe. I dont know why Swisher’s in that deal. But Teheran and Montero are both legit prospects, and Nunez would fill a need right?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

What need does Nunez fill?

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Infield suckiness?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

We got that and then some throughout our minors.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on Jul 29, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm Fine With Him,

But for some people, a shortstop not named Pennington.

by Jason James on Jul 29, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only "word on the street" I've seen about Gio

is that teams inquired and Beane said, “Not available.”

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

that’s good to hear. I wasn’t sure how the team felt about Gio, since he was the third best prospect out of the Kinda Big 3.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

They will.

Whether they intend to keep him or trade him, an extension makes sense.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

They may have thought he was only 3rd best

Two years ago, maybe even last year. Not now

by OaklandSi on Jul 29, 2011 11:43 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I might be wrong, but

Gio wasn’t part of the “Big 3.” That was Mazarro, Anderson, and Cahill.

Wade Hines

by Wader on Jul 29, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah that's true.

Gio was just kinda a fourth guy.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mazz really? It was always Gio, Anderson and Cahill for me.

I had always read Mazz projected to be like a 4. All the other guys had front line potential.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on Jul 29, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

The advertised future big 3 was mazz, anderson, and cahill.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, the Big MAC

Don't you realise you'll find next monday or next Tuesday/Your golden shoes day

by PDXAthleticsfan on Jul 29, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mazzaro and Cahill were drafted by the A's

The A’s didn’t trade for Anderson and Gio (in the Haren and Swisher trades respectively) until January 2008. Gio was not part of MAC only because he was further along than the other 3 and was expected to be MLB ready before them.

by OaklandSi on Jul 29, 2011 12:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

And "Not Available"

means “you’ll have to keep adding on players if you want me to talk.”

by LoneStranger on Jul 29, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Get in on the Hunter Pence trade

Houston wants pitching prospects. Latest rumors are Phillies would send Dominic Brown to a 3rd team in order for Houston to get prospects they like.

by HRH on Jul 29, 2011 10:47 AM PDT reply actions  

That's a good idea - very "old Billy Beane"

Especially if the other two teams have no idea it’s a 3-way!

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes!

Just tell both teams the A’s are trading prospects to the other, and steal Dominic Brown from under their noses!

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Last time they got themselves in a three way

with Philly for their OF prospect, didn’t turn out too well

I’ve been overwhelmed and I’ve been underwhelmed. Can I ever just be whelmed?

by closetasfan on Jul 29, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heck,

While you’re at it, try to steal Ryan Howard.

by Jason James on Jul 29, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

We could trade for Mike Leake, and then ask him to shoplift Ryan Howard!

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or maybe bring along that Cozart kid with him.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe:

But you got me thinking.
Who wouldn’t love to see Dontrelle Willis play for the A’s?

by Jason James on Jul 29, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Me.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

"Watchoo talkin' about, whizkid?"

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I get that reference!

even though it was before my time… who feels old right now? haha

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

That idea would make a lot more sense if

the A’s actually had pitching prospects. Houston is looking for guys who will arrive in the next year or two. Pitching prospects at that level is not a strength of our system; in fact, it’s a weakness.

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

TYSON ROSS

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

for Hunter Pence???

No matter how much you arbitrage through third teams, I just don’t see the equivalence there.

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Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

IT'S TYSON ROSS

haha

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well

What if Houston gets Cozart, Singleton, Tyson Ross and Ian Kroll. Philly gets Pence and we get Brown.

by HRH on Jul 29, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

"Ross and Krol "

aren’t anywhere close to the equivalent of either Pence or Brown.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

true

Just thinking like old Billy Beane who could pull off those trades.

by HRH on Jul 29, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think "old Billy" could pull that off

He’d just offer more and it would still be a great idea.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Beane hasn't lost anything (AFAICT)

But the other GMs have gotten way smarter.

Cardenas!!!! WoooooooooooooHOOOOOOOOO

by Mattel on Jul 29, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then on a curve, he's gotten dumber.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, relatively.

But you can’t criticize someone for it.

Cardenas!!!! WoooooooooooooHOOOOOOOOO

by Mattel on Jul 29, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here's the tweet

"@SI_JonHeyman: phillies might shop prospects (even d. brown) to find fit astros for pence. hou wants pitching."

do A’s get in on this if Singleton or Brown become available?

by OaklandSi on Jul 29, 2011 11:29 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

If Beane can get himself into the middle of this trade

and end up with Brown then he’s a genius again.

Cardenas!!!! WoooooooooooooHOOOOOOOOO

by Mattel on Jul 29, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

only IF dombro starts

living to his potential including running to first base

by heartstopper on Jul 29, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes.

well they should

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I do agree that Tyson Ross is a good piece for us to trade,

one of the few we have that is likely worth more to another team than he is to us.

I guess I just don’t have as much faith in his value than others here do. If I’m Houston, I think he’s way way down on my list of possible targets.

But if we can match him up with something to get someone like Domonic Brown, hey, I’m all for it. I would happily give up Ross and Krol for Brown. I’m not sure what else could be added to that. That’s pretty much the entirety of our pitching prospects. Who else is there? Griffin??

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by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

James Simmons!!!!

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ynoa, but he might be only a rumor

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Bailey / Rangers trade could look like ...."

… a bargaining ploy to drive down the price on Heath Bell.

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by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 10:56 AM PDT reply actions  

Possibly lower cost.

Since Bailey is under a longer contract right?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's what i was saying.

The only reason theyd go after Bell is cuz he’s cheaper.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder how much cheaper though....Would the Padres take Miguel De Los Santos

and Engel Beltre or something like that? I’m thinking if they’re going to insist on Erlin or someone like that then why not go for Bailey?

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

In a vacuum, they wouldn't.

Bailey is better. But I think they’ll get a better deal on Bell.

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by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unless overwhelmed

I don’t see Bailey going anywhere due to the bullpen being a little in question. He is our most reliable arm at the moment too.

If I the choice of one move. DFA Fuentes, eat the salary. He is a loss waiting to happen every time he takes the mound.

by HRH on Jul 29, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bailey/Rangers trade could look like

Martin Perez, Joe Wieland, Mike Olt, Chris Davis

*Insert something witty here*. Oh, and Stanfurd Sucks.

by FrankCohen on Jul 29, 2011 11:01 AM PDT reply actions  

It could?

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't accept much less than that

Trading Bailey to a division rival

*Insert something witty here*. Oh, and Stanfurd Sucks.

by FrankCohen on Jul 29, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd accept just Perez and do it before Daniels came to his senses

I might do it for just Olt

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's why you aren't the GM of the A's

*Insert something witty here*. Oh, and Stanfurd Sucks.

by FrankCohen on Jul 29, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he should hold out for a few more pieces

And he probably would…

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by FrankCohen on Jul 29, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's not an answer to my question

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL, yup.

WC, if you’re going to have any credibility you have to stop acting like every player associated with the A’s organization sucks. Sure, many fans overvalue their own players, but you way undervalue them all the time. Come on.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with WC for the most part.

Bailey is a good reliever. Gonzalez is a 3-3.5 WAR pitcher. I’d say WC’s estimation of a player’s value is closer to the truth than most people’s. Martin Perez is the sixth best prospect in baseball, according to BA. If you can get the sixth best prospect in baseball for a reliever, I’d jump on it.

I know everyone likes Bailey and hates the Rangers, but trying to gut a team’s farm system and bathe in its blood is bad business. Get value, maybe a lot of it, but let’s be reasonable here.

by NateHST on Jul 29, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not about trading with TEX or not

It’s about Bailey being a valuable trade chip you can only deal once. Look at what demands are being made for rentals like Heath Bell, and realize that Bailey is under contract through 2014.

Also, if you want to trade Bailey for a really good starting pitching prospect, instead of giving the Rangers a closer, why not…wait for it…move Bailey into the rotation?

Notice how the Rangers have taken two relievers inferior to Bailey (Wilson, Ogando) and made their rotation far better. And their health has been just fine. No guarantees that Bailey would be an excellent SP, but no guarantee on Perez either.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because Bailey already failed as a starter and has arm problems.

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by mikev on Jul 29, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

The former was years and years ago now

The latter is legit — yet in my heart I know that if he were on Texas, he’d be starting the All-Star game before long.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or Toronto....see Brandon Morrow

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the guy already has dealt with arm problems

can you imagine what starting for a Nolan Ryan team would do to his health? God damn.

by NateHST on Jul 29, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Rangers have far fewer arm problem issues than the A's do.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Rangers have different pitchers than the A's do, too.

Correlation and causation. Playing on a Nolan Ryan team would absolutely terrify me if I was a pitcher, especially one that has dealt with arm problems.

by NateHST on Jul 29, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same here.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

His arm problems were different though.

Bailey couldn’t cut it as a SP in Double A, which is why he was converted and fast tracked as a reliever.

FDLS never really failed as a starter, I’m very much in favor of him being moved back to the rotation and learning how to actually pitch instead of just throw as hard as he can.

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by mikev on Jul 29, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

WC has more credibility than just about anyone who posts here.

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by EastCoastA on Jul 29, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Look, I like WC, it's not that

He’s just compulsively down on any player or prospect on the A’s (maybe it’s superstitious pessimism, I don’t know). You kind of have to take any player or prospect and add 10%, and you get a more accurate picture of how you should regard that player or prospect.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I were an opposing GM,

I would be pretty unenthused with any of the A’s prospects, too.

by NateHST on Jul 29, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

They're not all great, that's for sure.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

the problem is that he's an upside whore

kevin goldstein-ish. and we don’t have any of those super high upside guys outside of maybe Dixon and De La Cruz. and ynoa, if he still exists.

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by hero66 on Jul 29, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, I wish our farm system looked better

and had more high upside guys in it. But there are some potential bright spots, from Weeks (now up) to Choice, to Y. Cabrera and V. De La Cruz, to Green (progressing steadily, though not “great”).

It’d be super ducky if Taylor and Carter would get it back together, and the pitching is generally sucky or homophobic, but luckily we have some good young talent in the bigs for a while.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh I totally agree

not a particularly great system but it’s certainly not barren

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by hero66 on Jul 29, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Barren farm systems: A llllllegacy of elegance!"

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

awesome

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by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Martin Perez would be nice.

But i dont get why people are including Chris Davis in these deals. I REALLY dont want him.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ehh,

im not really against him.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Im more neutral. It’s one of those things where if i dont wanna trade for the same, or not much better, i’d rather just keep it. why spend on a 0 upgrade?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because he can't field and he has flailed mightily at major league pitching

since his rookie season?

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you talking about Davis or Jackson?

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Davis.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

if it's not an upgrade, why do it?

why not target someone else

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm neutral on Davis

but the guy is younger than Michael Taylor, who some people think is still the A’s savior. I’d rather have him than Jackson.

by NateHST on Jul 29, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

But you're not trading Jackson for Davis

you’re trading good players for Davis. In a vacuum, sure i’ll take Davis over Jackson. But if there’s any cost, i dont see it.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but Davis is blocked by Moreland Young.

They might actually be able to get Davis as just a throw-in. If he’s the centerpiece, well, fuck that. But in a deal for Bailey, he wouldn’t be.

by NateHST on Jul 29, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me personally, no.

Not a fan. But he’s e’er so slightly better than Davis at the moment in that he can play 1B ok and can hit ok.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Davis has yet to even come close to a league average hitter btw.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

You mean other than his 123 wRC+ in 2008?

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

oh yeah, other than that :P

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh shit he was good 3 years ago

GO GET HIM

Wait are we talking about Chris Davis or Conor Jackson

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by mikev on Jul 29, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hee

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah that.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

TBH I'm not a huge Davis fan either

Just in a deal like the one I mentioned that had so much talent already in it, I felt as though I needed to throw in an “MLB-ready” offensive player, as long as he wan’t the centerpiece of the deal. Maybe instead of Davis, David Murphy?

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by FrankCohen on Jul 29, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

David Murphy is actually good.

I wouldn’t mind getting him just for him’s sake.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Get in on the Hunter Pence 3-Team Trade Rumors

Reportedly, the Astros:

The Phillies initially offered their two best prospects, pitcher Jarred Cosart and first baseman Jonathan Singleton, and were told that wasn’t enough. The Phillies then offered to include their right fielder, Domonic Brown. But the Astros, according to one team that spoke with them, would prefer to spin Brown elsewhere for multiple prospects than take him themselves.
So both clubs have been contacting other teams, trying to construct a creative enough deal to work for everybody. According to an official of one club that got drawn into those talks, the chances of that happening are “50-50.” But it sure won’t be because they aren’t actively trying.
Via Jason Stark, at ESPN.com

So, what I’d love to see…Old Billy Beane
The Phillies Trade: 1B Jonathan Singleton and OF Domonic Brown to the Astros for Hunter Pence
The Astros Trade: 1B Jonathan Singleton to the Oakland A’s
The Oakland A’s Trade: 1B Chris Carter, LHP Ian Krol and 2B Eric Sogard to the Astros
The Oakland A’s Trade: RP Grant Balfour to the Phillies
The Phillies Trade: Justin De Fratus, RHP to the Oakland A’s

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 29, 2011 11:06 AM PDT reply actions  

they just said they don't want brown though...

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know I know

But I thought, if they are losing their OF Pence, and probably Bourne before it is all said and done, Then They would rather ship out the 1B Prospect (although I heard he too might be turned into an OF sooner than later) than their OF Prospect….Just because of position need and depth. Also, I wasn’t 100% certain what exactly Jason Stark meant by the way he wrote that article.

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 29, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, what are the Astros thinking?

Rejecting Singleton, Cosart, and Brown??? WOW.

Anyway, if this rumor is true, we have to get in on it…

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by FrankCohen on Jul 29, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Stark means "include Brown [instead of one of the minor-leaguers]

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by Nick on Jul 29, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

His wording is a bit vague there…

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by FrankCohen on Jul 29, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely.

But still a terrible move for PHI to deal Brown and either Singleton or Cosart for 1.3 years of Pence.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

It makes both orgs look bad

PHI is making a huge overpay and HOU is too dumb to realize.

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by Mattel on Jul 29, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why is HOU too dumb for that?

It’d be brilliant!

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

If they miss the trade they are idiots

It should have been done already is what I’m saying.

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by Mattel on Jul 29, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

That seems very likely.

The Twitter approach to trade rumors is causing more than the usual amount of misunderstanding this year. Someone types something out quickly with awkward wording, and it is instantly repeated all over the Internet with the wrong interpretation.

That’s exactly what happened with Biertempfel’s tweet that got repeated as the A’s getting ready to trade for Garrett Jones.

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by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

How many times was his name re-tweeted then?

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by kenntoe on Jul 29, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

The big one was MLB Trade Rumors,

from whence it spread everywhere. Also, several here on AN made the same misinterpretation independently.

Biertempfel clarified with a follow-up tweet, but it was too late to stamp out all the rampant discussion, and the correction got little notice.

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by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the follow up, but I was really just being funny.

Biertempfel is an amazingly tough name to spell out.

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by kenntoe on Jul 29, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just call him Beer-Temple

That’s what it means.

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by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would

If his name was Biertempel

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by elcroata on Jul 29, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just an old spelling, though, right?

(That’s a non-rhetorical question. I’m really asking.)

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by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think so

In althochdeutsch it was tempal and as it does come from templum, I don’t think there ever was a version with “f” in it.

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by elcroata on Jul 29, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm, OK.

I’m not well versed in German. I was just thinking of other words where the pf corresponds to p in English cognates — apfel apple, pfeiffer piper, pfad path.

Seems to be some discussion of it here, but I didn’t follow enough to make sense of what tempfel might be.

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by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the Astros want lower level prospects, not the likes of Carter, Krol or Sogard

They might take something like Ynoa, Nunez, De La Cruz and Shipman for Brown though

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

hmm well. Would you do that?

I’d rather have Singleton than Brown.

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 29, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really??

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by FrankCohen on Jul 29, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

haha are you being sarcastic?

Yes, definitely!

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 29, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, not being sarcastic

I just personally value Brown a lot more. Interested to hear why you personally prefer Singleton

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by FrankCohen on Jul 29, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, mainly because the times I have watched Brown play this year

I’ve been completely underwhelmed. I know he is still learning on the job and is still very young. I guess it is just a preference, because I’ve never actually seen Singleton play live/on tv. I’ve only seen a few prospect clips. Also, I’d rather have a 1B than an OF, but I also heard that Singleton might end up in the OF anyways. So I guess it is a wash,.

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 29, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Always go for the talent

Brown has elite talent. He may never realize it, of course. But the opportunity to get it worth the risk.

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by Mattel on Jul 29, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Although Jayson Werth has.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Singleton is young and raw too

I’d rather have the young guy who has already passed all of his minor league tests, than a guy who has 3-4 more tests to go and may not even make it to the big league club

by echerrst on Jul 29, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I personally wouldn't trade all our lower level prospects for one outstanding prospect

just because I think we’re really far away from contending, and I like our lower level guys

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I feel the opposite.

I have no attachment to our lower level guys. It’s not that I don’t like them, it’s that I believe pitching prospects are far more likely to deviate from their projection than hitting prospects. That’s the whole logic behind TINSTAAPP. Ones who look good go bust at a very high rate, and on the flip side ones who look meh turn out to be awesome. You do your best to pick the likeliest pitchers, but it’s not so much about cultivating a few great guys as just gathering up a big collection of lottery tickets and seeing which ones work out.

There’s a lot of uncertainty with hitters, too, of course, but it’s not at the same scale. So if I have a chance to trade four lottery tickets from the lower minors for one hitter who was a top 20 prospect overall just last year, that feels like a great deal to me.

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by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ooh, I forgot about Ynoa.

That’s a good idea.

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by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, IDK just guessing what it may take

Carter or Choice or Taylor

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 29, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can't see us trading Choice. He is part of our future.....

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by Berry Jo on Jul 29, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Choice wont be traded.

But i think everyone else could, except maybe Green

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's sort of what I am thinking.

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by Berry Jo on Jul 29, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think Green could be traded if the A's could shore up their OF in the process

His future isn’t on the INF anymore and as an OF he’s inexperienced, in the middle of an “ok” hitting season. Seems like a guy good enough to trade (and get something back) and “not sure enough” to trade.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

What could they get for Green though?

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

He could part of a pretty attractive package

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

A part of.

Not by himself. Which is fine, but who do you package him with

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

MO says Gio, Barton, and Gray are the most attractive on our team

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by Tutu-late on Jul 29, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

SWEENEY!

How can you forget sweeney. He’s a hunk.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Sweeney, Gio, and DeJesus are the most attractive,

But we are talking MO here.

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by Tutu-late on Jul 29, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah weird taste.

I agree with you.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus, Sweeney has POWER!!!

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by Tutu-late on Jul 29, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's a MAN'S MAN

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

First of all, if these rumors are true PHI is being epically dumb

Pence is NOT worth trading Brown and Singleton! (Or Brown and Cosart.)

If that’s where they’re thinking, why not jump in directly and say, “Look, we’ll trade you Willingham for just Singleton” and you can keep Brown and Cosart?

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh he is? I thought it was one more year.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Got it.

It counts as 2.5 for the Phillies, though, in that it’s…2.5.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think I confused him with BJ Upton, who's a FA after 2012.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

One way fo the A's to get in on the Pence deal

if they really want it, would be to talk about Harden going to the Phillies and Worley going to the Astros. Worley was a 3rd round pick a few years back, so he’s not a nobody, but his minor league numbers weren’t fantastic, he wasn’t a top prospect or anything, and he’s getting by this year by giving up lots of fly balls (.74 GB/FB ratio) with very few HRs (only 3 in 71 IP), which seems unlikely to hold up. He’s also got a .236 BABIP, which won’t last, either.

Here’s Sickels’ evaluation of Worley from this April, which makes him sound a lot like Blanton. Valuable, but not an ace.

So the argument from the Phils’ perspective would be to sell high on Worley and in return get a pitcher who’s likely to be just as effective over the next couple of months. The Astros would get a young pitcher who’s ready for the majors now, even if he’s not as good as his ERA says at the moment.

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by Nick on Jul 29, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's all in how you spin it

You tell the Astros, “Wins!!! ERA!!!” and then tell the Phils “MPH! K/9IP!!!” and then enjoy having Brown, Cosart, Singleton, and Pence.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wait so all Oak gets is Singleton in this scenario?

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by kenntoe on Jul 29, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Astros are really stupid

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by hero66 on Jul 29, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brown, Singleton & Cosart for Pence

That’s a really bad deal for the Phillies.

by echerrst on Jul 29, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is going to be interesting

At first, I thought Beane’s statement about keeping Willingham, DDJ, etc. was mostly posturing. But now, the list of interested teams might be really shrinking…

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by FrankCohen on Jul 29, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really don't know what a Harden deal would look like

Any ideas? What prospects could we expect from the Red Sox? Yankees?

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by FrankCohen on Jul 29, 2011 11:27 AM PDT reply actions  

No one good.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unless you can get a bidding war going

Harden staying healthy is a huge risk for the team who doesn’t get him

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by Mattel on Jul 29, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Especially since they'll face each other in ALCS.

So Harden will pitch against the other.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

can we get Bourn at least?

that shouldn’t take too much

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by Satchmo22 on Jul 29, 2011 11:30 AM PDT reply actions  

But why would the A's do that?

Bourn is getting paid $4.4 million this year, and next year is his last arbi-eligible season before free agency. Do they really want to commit $5 million or whatever to make him their CF next season?

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by Nick on Jul 29, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

YES!

The real question is why would the Astros do it. Coco for Bourn is soooooo lopsided.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

why wouldn't they do it?

there doesn’t seem to be any interest in Bourn but oddly there does seem to be interest in Coco

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by Satchmo22 on Jul 29, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

This would indeed be odd if it were true

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Uhh....

so does that mean Willingham is better than Pujols? Cuz people are trying to trade for Josh but not for Albert.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

uhh no

it means there is a rumor at least about Coco and none about Bourn

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by Satchmo22 on Jul 29, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

But you said they'd trade Bourn for Coco straight up

because Coco has interest but Bourn doesnt.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

rumor / interest

it’s all the same right now.

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by Satchmo22 on Jul 29, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I meant in terms of the multi-year plan for contention

That is, almost no one here thinks that the A’s will contend seriously next year, and Bourn is unlikely to be with the team beyond 2012. I suppose he’d be a Type A and net picks if Beane offered him arbitration (assuming that system continues in the next CBA), or Beane could flip him for prospects any time before the end of next season.

Incidentally, Bourn hasn’t been much better than Coco until this season, when he seems to have cut down massively on his FB tendencies, resulting in a much higher BABIP and thus better BA and OBA. Is this a blip, or did he actually revamp his hitting approach in a way that’s permanent?

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by Nick on Jul 29, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn't Bourn basically a 5 WAR player in 2009 and 2010?

And hasn’t he averaged 4 WAR per 650 PA for his career? I’d think Beane could flip Bourn for better prospects than he could flip Coco for

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

From what I can tell about his WAR

it was all about his defense, until this year at any rate. Baseball-reference.com, which I know isn’t the favored WAR listing, says that in 2010 he was 6 runs below average hitting, 9 above average baserunning, and 25 above average in CF. The previous 2 years, however, he’d been 12 below average and 5 below average in the field.

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by Nick on Jul 29, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why on earth would Houston want Crisp?

He’s a terrible fit for them.

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Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

The rumor is that they want low level prospects...

If Crisp is a Type B free agent, Houston will get 2 picks that will obviously be low level prospects.

by Brett Narloch on Jul 29, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

But the legitimate question would be

why they wouldn’t just trade Bourn for the prospects without bothering with Crisp in the first place.

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by Nick on Jul 29, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

But Crisp isn't even a B is he?

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

nope

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

.
A Class B free agent is ranked below the top 20 percent but in the top 40 percent of players at his position. A team that loses a Type B player receives a supplemental pick, but the signing team does not lose a pick.

by Copenhagen on Jul 29, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's not even a Type B yet either

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

A switch to the NL would put him just under the B cutoff

I assume the numbers just shift over, forgot how that works. But point still stands not a B in either league.

by Copenhagen on Jul 29, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

like it

someone get houston on the phone

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by Satchmo22 on Jul 29, 2011 11:33 AM PDT reply actions  

hmmm maybe we will make that trade with Texas
Rangers are now locked into 3 different bullpen pieces could be phone call away but they’re not waiting if they get a deal they like

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 29, 2011 11:44 AM PDT reply actions  

In news that really only matters to me,

my roommate is canceling his enrollment today! Already college is throwing me for a loop!

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:47 AM PDT reply actions  

ahhhh. bummer. I am sure you there will be another person who they can match you with.

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Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Jul 29, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

take out that you

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Jul 29, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

im not necessarily opposed to having a whole room to myself

since ive already started talking to other people

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you already @ ASU?

*Insert something witty here*. Oh, and Stanfurd Sucks.

by FrankCohen on Jul 29, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

No,

but there’s facebook groups and social network stuff ive met people through.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, cool

So are you prepared for Cal to own you guys in football on national television? :)

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by FrankCohen on Jul 29, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haha i think you have it reversed!

ASU is ranked 24th!

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

We're being overlooked this year! Haha

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by FrankCohen on Jul 29, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night ;)

but really, im just excited to go to games. ASU opens at home against UC Davis, and i know a bunch of kids going there, so thatll be fun!

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha

We opened with UC Davis last year. Well at least you will start your season with a 40+ point victory.

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by FrankCohen on Jul 29, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely.

A nice ego boost i think.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

UC DAVIS!

I graduated from UC Davis in June 2010…Nice place.

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 29, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice place

But shitty football team :P

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by FrankCohen on Jul 29, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even nice place is generous ;)

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Come on, how many towns have an entire subdivision with street names taken from Middle Earth?

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by Nick on Jul 29, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I don't care about their sports teams

Especially the football team. So many tools when I was there. My girl was on the Soccer Team, so I had to interact with a lot of these dudes who all thought they were NFL prospects. Laughable!

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 29, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha its probably like that in all college towns

it was like that growing up in San Luis Obispo. I hated all the college kids. All the locals do

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 29, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry was a reply to the middle earth street names

Yeah but I agree, who cares about Davis’ sports teams. You don’t go to Davis for the sports teams; nobody even knows when the games happen.

by Billy Frijoles on Jul 29, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Several

San Jose, CA; Baton Rouge, LA; and Columbia, MD, are three that I know of.

A whole website full of Tolkien street signs here.

My favorite is this:

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHAT???? Davis is a great place to go to school AND live.

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Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Jul 29, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

ugh

it’s a bunch of cows! haha. and it’s funny because i had a really good friend hate it and drop out, so i had a negative impression but it’s been positive other than that.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

well....it really isn't - but you've gotta be there to know.

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Jul 29, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

i know.

i tease.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

this wasn't always true....when I went there they were great....but still Div II at that time.

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Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Jul 29, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Go AGS!!!

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Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Jul 29, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

THIS

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by stm72 on Jul 29, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

are you an alum too? B/C if you are - I did not know that - or forgot!

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Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Jul 29, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just graduated from there.

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by vignette17 on Jul 29, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

woo!

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by stm72 on Jul 29, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dated a woman from there.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Jul 29, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

look at all these UCD Alumni

I love it! 2010 BA in English and History; minor in Communications

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 29, 2011 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

me too

BS 2000 HELL YEAH WOODSTOCKS

by mk on Jul 29, 2011 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Congrats!

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Jul 30, 2011 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remembered Dr K......

always nice to find fellow Ags

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Jul 30, 2011 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

it's harder to meet folks that way - but you are pretty friendly.....

one advantage is peace and quiet when you need it.

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Jul 29, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well there are other advantages,

but yeah it makes it a little harder to meet people

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

As long as you are in a building in which the rooms aren't isolated from

one another, you’ll be fine meeting others without a roommate

*Insert something witty here*. Oh, and Stanfurd Sucks.

by FrankCohen on Jul 29, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah it's not like that at all.

it’s all together.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nothin to worry about then

My roommate was actually my twin brother, so it was almost as if we were one person when first befriending our floormates haha

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by FrankCohen on Jul 29, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow lol

You know what? This could be for the best…he could have been a psychopath for all you know! Or…your next one could be…

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by FrankCohen on Jul 29, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

well we had already figured out a lot of stuff,

and he seemed alright. but yeah, who knows!

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

not ASU i think

brand new dorms on a smaller campus. im sure they’ll give me a replacement, but who knows.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

sounds good.

chickie and bloom are coming with me anyways

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yay!

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, here we GO!
Brady Tinker of Fox Southwest reports that the A’s Andrew Bailey is now the “most likely” addition to the Rangers bullpen.
That would certainly come out of left field. The Rangers’ talks with the Padres regarding Heath Bell have reportedly hit a snag, but given that Bailey is under team control through 2014, his price tag will almost surely be much higher, making it a strange fit unless the Rangers like Bailey that much more. We’re guessing this information was floated to Tinker in hopes that the Padres will lower their demands for Bell.

Source: Brady Tinker on Twitter

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 29, 2011 12:08 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

yeah I've never heard of the guy

Maybe this is to get the Padres going

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 29, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

They could just take the picks

Or re engage talks with cardinals, jays who have shown past interest

by J.J. Miller on Jul 29, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

we had better be getting

smoak

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by Satchmo22 on Jul 29, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Adrian Gonzalez

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah... right Wad...

They’re gonna get Smoak, Danks, AND Gonzalez. Keep dreamin’.

by Brett Narloch on Jul 29, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

and Washington

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by Satchmo22 on Jul 29, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok

Quick, somebody invent a time machine!

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by FrankCohen on Jul 29, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want Sierra

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by Nick on Jul 29, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hear they want Canseco for him though

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Quick, get him out of the on-deck circle!

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by Nick on Jul 29, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

they actually have

Ruben Sierra jr…

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 29, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

now THAT is a trade I can live with - as much as I'd rather we keep Bailey

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by Berry Jo on Jul 29, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tinker mentioned Heath Bell...

Would that be the Tinker Bell rumor?

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by kaweahkaweah on Jul 29, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

She looks trustworthy. I believe her.

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Headline I'd like to see "Tinker: Bell talks peter out, unlikely to pan out,"

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by Nick on Jul 29, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Pan, he's injured now

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sign him now!

He’d fit right in – he even wears the right colors.

Oh, I thought you meant the flying dude with the green tights.

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by PDXAthleticsfan on Jul 29, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

The great god Pan is dead.

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm, interesting.

I like this part:

his price tag will almost surely be much higher

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yay!

I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

of course

he’s taller

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by elcroata on Jul 29, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also,

can you please clarify who you are quoting? The source line makes it seem like the blockquoted part is Tinker’s tweet, but Tinker wouldn’t refer to himself in third-person, would he?

If you’ve quoted another source’s commentary on the tweet, you should cite your source and link to it.

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Totally

My gut: I really doubt Bailey is going to Texas.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like your gut....er your instincts

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by Berry Jo on Jul 29, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

sorry I always do that

this time I didn’t separate the ROTO commentary from the Twitter feed. sorry

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 29, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

One thing that worries me about Bailey to the Rangers...

Is that does it mean that Neftali goes back to the rotation? If Feliz goes back to the rotation after this year and Bailey takes over as closer, the Rangers could get a lot better.

But then again if the A’s get a haul of a couple top 6 or so prospects I would be pretty excited.

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by winchester5 on Jul 29, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think they could move Feliz into the rotation regardless of Bailey,

but i see your point. I think the A’s just have to move their contention window back a few years anyway, so if the rangers get better next year it really doesnt matter

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

You think it's unlikely?

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think The Rangers would really need

To overwhelm Beane to get Bailey. Slusser and Stiglich among others have said the same thing.

by OaklandSi on Jul 29, 2011 12:42 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Bailey has been a lottery ticket trade chip

Injury history- check
Cost a ton in arby next year- check
Have a deep enough bullpen and power arms in AA/AAA to take over- check
Bad teams with good closers is not necessary, this isnt early-mid 2000’s when A’s couldnt produce any decent home grown relievers

by J.J. Miller on Jul 29, 2011 12:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Pitching freakin' lights out - check

I’m with you. Give them Bailey and steal their farm system.

by Brett Narloch on Jul 29, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

I’m really hoping they can cash in now. There will never be an opportunity to sell higher.

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by jeepers on Jul 29, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I might be crazy, but i wouldnt surprised if Moscoso as closer

He seems to have that aggressive, no fear mound presence. His FB might increase to 04 mph as a reliever

by J.J. Miller on Jul 29, 2011 12:26 PM PDT reply actions  

It's worth a shot

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

this.

Why not at this point? He’s not gunna be a long term viable starter.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah he's real good as is.

Perfect #4 or 5 starter. We could think about moving him to RP or trading him if Braden was here, if only that were true :(

by PL78 on Jul 29, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Moscoso is a perfect 4th starter?

I dont think so. He’s a spot starter at best on a decent to good team.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm not trying to.

he’s not a pitcher you want consistently in your rotation if want to win.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

correct

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by stm72 on Jul 29, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's a bit older

but Moscoso actually has an excellent record as a starter in the minor leagues. Last year was pretty much the only year he posted a FIP above 3.00. I agree with PL78, his role as 4th or 5th starter suits him very well.

by NateHST on Jul 29, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait are we talking about Guillermo Moscoso?

His FIP is 5.15 this year! And he has no other track record in the majors.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ya, I'm not sure I buy Moscoso as a starting pitcher, but then I also don't

believe your 4th and 5th starter should be crappy. I don’t see why we don’t want all above average starters just like we want all above average position players

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what i was trying to say.

Maybe i wasn’t as eloquent.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

This would be a lot like the Phillies' philosophy

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Jul 29, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure your 4th and 5th starters pitch as much as your 2nd starter

Why should they be worse?

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, I'm with you on this.

I see no reason to throw away any games.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Jul 29, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think this idea goes back to the original "4-man" rotations.

Teams weren’t ready, nor able, to field a quality 4th starter.

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Jul 29, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not true

5th starters typically pitch less. They can be skipped when there’s an extra rest day in the schedule.

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by Mattel on Jul 29, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

But the A's don't do the 4.5 man rotation any more and when

somebody inevitably gets hurt your 5th guy becomes your 4th guy

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

In less than sixty innings.

I wasn’t talking about his performance in the majors. I was talking about his excellent track record in the minors, which is indisputable. In 500 minor league innings, he’s posted 8.8 K/9, 2.5 BB/9, and 0.7 HR/9. Like I said, he’s a bit older, but it’s too early to write him off.

I don’t think he’s a crappy pitcher. Part of the problem is that he’s not striking people out this season. I’d expect him to be better.

by NateHST on Jul 29, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be willing to try that out.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think he has the stuff for that

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by hero66 on Jul 29, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think his biggest issue is a lack of sufficient secondary stuff

At times where his breaking ball has been a bit sharper and his changeup more consistent, he’s looked like a solid pitcher. Without that, with just a “good but kinda straight” fastball, I don’t see him thriving as a SP or as a reliever.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

No other track record as a starter, you mean?

He was in the Rangers bullpen for a while in 2009. Plus one bad outing in 2010.

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by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

like no other time as a starter in the majors.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Long reliever.......

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by Berry Jo on Jul 29, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

or Pennington

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by Satchmo22 on Jul 29, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

You want Pennington as closer?

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

you don't think he would be any good?

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by Satchmo22 on Jul 29, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn't he more valuable at SS?

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

cahill can play SS

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by Satchmo22 on Jul 29, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

He seems pretty chunky

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

so is Tejada

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder who the fattest SS of all time was

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is there a sort by weight column?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mark Belanger

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by Tutu-late on Jul 29, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

mayor mccheese

plays ss for the mcdonalds team

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by Satchmo22 on Jul 29, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kevin Mitchell?

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by Nick on Jul 29, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but he has wingspan,

and he pitches to his defense.

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by Tutu-late on Jul 29, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he can pitch to his defense,

Then he should by definition have insight into playing said defense.

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by Tutu-late on Jul 29, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

True, and if he can pitch to hitters, he should by definition have

insight into said hitting

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like the basis of a dynasty!

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by Tutu-late on Jul 29, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

only player in the league that can touch

3rd and second at the same time

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by Satchmo22 on Jul 29, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hee

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

FDLS is the most likely replacement

Devine is good too, but always injured

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by Mattel on Jul 29, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Balfour!

why the F does no one mention Balfour at closer?

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He'd disapprove of the shortening to "F"

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm still innocent.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

College has a way of fixing that

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I figured he was trade bait

But yeah, I can see Balfour closing next year and FDLS setting up. Then FDLS takes over when Balfour leaves as FA (or is traded).

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by Mattel on Jul 29, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doesn't save count

weigh heavily in the Type A – reliever formula. Give Balfour a few more saves next year and we can lock up a Type A FA.

by echerrst on Jul 29, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can't offer arb to him

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by vignette17 on Jul 29, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I clearly remember it being part of the deal

But I have no confirmation. (And I’m too lazy to look for it now).

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by vignette17 on Jul 29, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't find it anywhere from light searching

Also next year may be moot, who know compensation may disappear with the new CBA.

by Copenhagen on Jul 29, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the A's have been reluctant to use FDLS in high leverage situations to this point

so I doubt they’d move him directly into the closer role. Balfour or Fuentes is next in line, assuming they don’t get traded. Then probably Ziegler, who’s had experience there. FDLS should probably be the guy, but I doubt he will be.

by NateHST on Jul 29, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

His reputation is that he nibbles too much

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but we're talking about how he pitches, Nico...

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by Nick on Jul 29, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

We are? Why would we do that?

I’m no longer interested.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

no bourn for us

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by Satchmo22 on Jul 29, 2011 12:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Klinnsman named US Soccer Coach

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Yay!

(waits for someone who knows what they’re talking about to confirm)

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

mikey?

confirm this for him please

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes. It's what they needed.

They’ve also got to give him enough time to set the team up the way he wants it.

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by mikev on Jul 29, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yay!

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

How would you feel about Jason Kreis taking over the U-20 after

Rongen made a complete mess of it this year with the eyes on him taking over for 2018 or 2022?

by Copenhagen on Jul 29, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haven't really followed the younger levels too much.

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by mikev on Jul 29, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do I see all around the internet

that he could potentially be a massive failure?

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by YonYonson on Jul 29, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cuz US players suck?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

basically this.

Bradley has pretty much been trying to live off of Dempsey and Donovan

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by mikev on Jul 29, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can't we just steal some of brazil's players?

like the ones who can’t start on their national squad but would still rock on ours?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

they wouldnt even notice

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

they might, but frankly i don't care

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by stm72 on Jul 29, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

We're the goddamn USA!

We do what we please

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think many people will be upset about this

Bradley had kind of run his course, and Klinsman was a terrific, winning player who later went into coaching and lead Germany to a good deal of international success. He almost took the job about a year ago, IIRC, but wanted more control over youth development than the US Federation was willing to hand over. I wonder who changed their position to make this deal happen.

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by Nick on Jul 29, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

all his neighbors said

he was a quite but polite man, i just can’t believe he is a Soccer coach and lived just down the street

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I like how you use "but" between quite[sic] and polite

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by elcroata on Jul 29, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

First manager with an umlaut for the USMNT

What I want to know is did he get the full control over the developmental system he wanted the last time they couldn’t agree to terms? If he did FUCK YES, if he didn’t still a YAY but somewhat tempered. Next step removing Gulati and Flynn.

by Copenhagen on Jul 29, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yay!

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

FUCK YES

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by mikev on Jul 29, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

(psst mike, you forgot the umlaut)

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by Nick on Jul 29, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know the key combination for that :(

I leave the accent squiggly stuff up to OaklandSi

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by mikev on Jul 29, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fück Yes?

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well done!

Plus you can always use an “e” if you’re all-capsing it:

“FUECK YES!”

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by Nick on Jul 29, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

FŰCK YES?

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

wrong one

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by elcroata on Jul 29, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crap

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ü = alt + 154

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by elcroata on Jul 29, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

doesn't work for me.

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by mikev on Jul 29, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

me? Mac?

SHIRLEY, YOU JEST.

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by mikev on Jul 29, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

IDK

IKR they are the evil, are you using the num pad keys?

by Copenhagen on Jul 29, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, I forgot to say that

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by elcroata on Jul 29, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I lof you guys.....

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by Berry Jo on Jul 29, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

ooh I like that

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by mikev on Jul 29, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can do ümlats

But they’re not my specialty

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ascii

ä = alt + 132
ü = alt + 129
ö = alt + 148

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by elcroata on Jul 29, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

it must suck to type in a foreign language

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

they're all foreign to me

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by elcroata on Jul 29, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

they coulda gone to you.....you the expert!!

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by Berry Jo on Jul 29, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

I use the US keyboard for all the languages

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by elcroata on Jul 29, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoa, huge win

Say hello to the semifinals, America.

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by jeepers on Jul 29, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

you got the 'n's wrong

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by elcroata on Jul 29, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

i know.

i rushed the post :(

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

padres price for bell
T_Kaufmann Todd Kaufmann
#Padres want Derek Holland and Jurickson Profar according to @XX1090 in San Diego

by J.J. Miller on Jul 29, 2011 12:38 PM PDT reply actions  

damn that's a lot.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome!

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would you still settle for Mike Olt for Bailey?

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by FrankCohen on Jul 29, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is he?

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know enough about him to say

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

No thx

Go for Martin, or Perez, or Martin Perez…but “Steve H”olt? Nah.

by PL78 on Jul 29, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Even if you believed that

You could clearly get more than just him for Bailey…

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by FrankCohen on Jul 29, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Um, yes.

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by mikev on Jul 29, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd take either one of those alone

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

like on a date?

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by Satchmo22 on Jul 29, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

seriously

i would add ross and green to get just profar

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by hero66 on Jul 29, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why would you do that?

We would be getting hella owned in that trade

by Rygoslinglover on Jul 29, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

no, we really wouldn't

profar is a top 10 prospect and has all the makings of an elite shortstop. trading a reliever and starter both with health issues, and then a fringy CF prospect for profar would be oustanding

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by hero66 on Jul 29, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure why they would want those players rather than MLB talent

like another reliever, but if Profar actually is available, I’d give them what they want. Sickels projected him as at least an average hitter, and an defender. Considering Pennington is going to have to tear through the next 50 games just to come close to being worth 2 WAR, Green’s no longer a SS, and Yordy Cabrera never really was… Profar would be a godsend.

by NateHST on Jul 29, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just feel like that would be giving up too many of our trade chips.

Yes, Bailey and Ross have had health issues, but I think that Bailey will not have as many health problems in the future now that he has successfully returned from surgery and he is pitching better than before. Green is not really “fringy” because we just drafted him last year. I have heard nothing but good things about his offensive production. On top of all of this is that we can control Ross, Bailey and Green for several more years.

We don’t need Holland, and he has been “injury-prone” in his career as well. Profar is a nice prospect, but he is still just that. A prospect. I don’t believe in giving up three above average players for one pretty good prospect who may not even pan out.

by Rygoslinglover on Jul 29, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would be more like one good reliever, one wild card pitcher

and one decent prospect, for a grade A/A- prospect at a position the A’s desperately need. Green and Ross aren’t average players yet, and Profar is more than a “pretty good prospect”.

by NateHST on Jul 29, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

this

"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"

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by hero66 on Jul 29, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you look at Green's AA stats

he’s doing ok, but not great at all. You’d like to see a player “own” a league, not just “have a solid campaign” in it, if you’re getting excited about a prospect who isn’t young for his level.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's true, but Green has not had much time in the minors,

so he could vastly improve. Wasn’t Profar the number 74 prospect heading into the season, but now he has shot up to the number 10? Green could shoot up as well, so I am not ready to concede that Green is just an average MLB player waiting to happen. Ross has shown flashes of being deceptively dominant, and Bailey is one of the games best closers. Green could be very good as well, while Profar could be good but maybe not.

Profar is not a sure thing, and many top ten prospects don’t amount to anything in the majors. It seems like too big of a gamble. Plus the Padres are asking for Holland and Profar for just Bell. Why should we have to throw in two more good players along with a “just as good as Heath Bell” closer? Maybe I am a bit more conservative with trades, but I could see that trade as being one that we look back on, and think “we got fleeced.”

by Rygoslinglover on Jul 29, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you look at what Profar is doing so far,

and consider that he’s 18, it’s pretty impressive. And he’s supposed to be elite defensively.

As risks go — and any A-ball player is a risk, just for the possibility of injury before they get to the big leagues — Profar doesn’t appear to be a big one. And if you figure him to be a future star at SS…That’s a heck of a player to have.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

You make a pretty good case

To be honest, I did not know much about Profar, and I was only skeptical of the trade because I don’t like giving away three players who could help the rangers in both the present and the future, although it sounds as though they may be parting with a big part of their future in Profar. Either way, the point is probably moot because I doubt that Beane will make that big of a trade with the rangers.

by Rygoslinglover on Jul 29, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

The case against taking Profar

is that apparently the side effects include headaches, nausea, depression, and loss of hair. But really, what doesn’t?

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

profar is a lot more talented than green.

a lot. much younger with way more upside. apples to oranges, really

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by hero66 on Jul 29, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy shit that's ridiculous.

No wonder there was a snag in their negotiations. If Profar is actually available, sign me the hell up.

by NateHST on Jul 29, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like if nothing else he could help my depression or my erectile dysfunction

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why not both?

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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

They're likely intertwined anyway.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

holy shit

thank you padres.

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by hero66 on Jul 29, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does anyone remember the timeline on the PTBNL in the MaEl trade?

The trade went down on June 30th, according to baseball-reference.com, so we’re coming up on a month later.

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by Nick on Jul 29, 2011 12:47 PM PDT reply actions  

yes, the PTBNL

is definitely Troy Tulowitzki, that is a given.

"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto

by emperor nobody on Jul 29, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, six months.

That is my understanding as well.

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

so did we deal Chris Carter and Michael Taylor and Ian Krol

for Albert Pujols, Evan Longoria and Hanley Ramirez yet? Come on Billy Beane, my TV told me you are a genius and you look astonishingly like Brad Pitt, let’s go!

"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto

by emperor nobody on Jul 29, 2011 12:47 PM PDT reply actions  

We would have,

but Beane was nervous about Pujols injury history and canceled it.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

like when jeter retires

Beane's World!! Excellent!!! Rock On, Beane! Rock On, Geren!

by Satchmo22 on Jul 29, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's when he signs a free agent deal!

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT: Rick Tittle now the weekend host of the dugout show and A's talk

Good for him

ANNOUNCEMENT TIME: Please welcome Rick Tittle to 95.7 The Game as weekend host of The Dugout Show and A’s Talk, effective August 6th.

by Glorious Mundy on Jul 29, 2011 12:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Am I confusing myself or is (was?) A's Talk

CT’s show?

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 29, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I obviously didn't read it all.

Thank you!

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 29, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

no kidding.....he's been working non-stop for a while now.

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Jul 29, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

weekend only.

it gives CT the weekend off

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

easy there

I was rather hoping Hunter would be the substitute host… it’d be so cute when he just dozed off in the middle of Bitter Bill from Modesto.

"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto

by emperor nobody on Jul 29, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

THIS is must-hear radio

we are talking about doing a monthly panel segment, a half-hour on CT’s new evening show, featuring me and Marine Layer and others from the blogs… I think Hunter should be in on it so the three-year-olds won’t feel left out.

"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto

by emperor nobody on Jul 29, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Hi Chris Townsend!"

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am imagining Hunter just potting down the obnoxious callers (reztips LOL)

and settling in for a few dinosaur movies on his portable DVD handheld thingy.

"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto

by emperor nobody on Jul 29, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously.

That would be amazing.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be fun to get in on.

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by mikev on Jul 29, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yay EN!

I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

we are discussing it and trying to maybe rock it for an end of August premiere, but we'll see

"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto

by emperor nobody on Jul 29, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Will there be obscure pop music?

I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

um, obscure Indonesian Psych Garage Hits of 1968

specialized, for a specialized audience of course

"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto

by emperor nobody on Jul 29, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mengagumkan!

I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dara Puspita!

"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto

by emperor nobody on Jul 29, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, they're good!

I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes they are!

"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto

by emperor nobody on Jul 29, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh and Reztips can give you tips on that

I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good possibilities

Would like to hear a variety of bloggers, including Baseball Oakland, Dale Tafoya, our own BBG. Perhaps a rotating pairing?

Hope it happens!

by OaklandSi on Jul 29, 2011 1:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I would not acquire it in a bar, I would not acquire it if it had fifteen WAR

I will not trade for green eggs and ham said Sam-I-Am.

"I wouldn't honestly be surprised if there was a Derek-Jeter’s-d**k-shaped Popsicle concession at Yankee Stadium."- emperor nobody

by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 29, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hee

I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 29, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could get my 2.5-year-old niece to co-host with Hunter

Her favorite word is “bunghole” so I think she has a future in sports talk.

M-A, M-A-R, M-A-R-K, Ell-is!

by Englishmajor on Jul 29, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your sig reminded me,

I’ve been saying “H-U, H-U-N, H-U-N-T…E-R!” recently.

by LoneStranger on Jul 29, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

and my 2 year old nephew can use his Spanish

to bring in a whole new audience.

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 29, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

YOU DO NOT WISH TO FACE THE WRATH OF MY BUNGHOLE

I don't feel that I'm feeling your feelings, about these feelings that you feel.

by doctorK on Jul 29, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes please do

And after he said he left game #20 in like the third inning to go to a bar instead. Dont tell me he is a die hard a’s fan. No die hard leaves a game early when there team is making history. Especially to go to a bar.

It’s funny same people praising him as a die hard are the same people bashing lew for leaving the owners box during the perfect game when he probably was just going to the stands behind the dugout

by Athletix Man on Jul 29, 2011 1:09 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Must need my contacts checked again

That subject line made me snicker.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Jul 29, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think they overpaid a little ;)

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

PL78 sent to Baltimore for a bag of balls

Orioles flip him to the Brewers for one of the guys dressed as a sausage.

"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto

by emperor nobody on Jul 29, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I would so do that trade.

The sausage guys are epic.

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Enjoy your time in Houston!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

You'll be replacing the Italian one.

Good luck in the race!

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Randall Simon disagrees

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Jul 29, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read this as a bag FOR used BP balls

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Jul 29, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

who will then designate him for assignment before sending him back to Sacramento where he belongs.

"I wouldn't honestly be surprised if there was a Derek-Jeter’s-d**k-shaped Popsicle concession at Yankee Stadium."- emperor nobody

by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 29, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ironically, this is pretty much Jay Marshall's career path every two years.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Next time you complain about a trade, PL78

I’m quoting this

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 29, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wrote this 1 day before the deadline!

Theyre SUPPOSED to be makin moves now, cmonnnnn so boreddddd

by PL78 on Jul 29, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

two days actually.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suggest deep breaths and meditation. Let the energies of the universe flow through you.

Embrace the calm.

Either that or start slamming whiskey and crying, whatever works for you.

"I wouldn't honestly be surprised if there was a Derek-Jeter’s-d**k-shaped Popsicle concession at Yankee Stadium."- emperor nobody

by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 29, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nnamdi still available.

gahhh

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 1:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Niners.

and Cowboys just signed someone to a big contract so he’s not going there.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Niners are out and probably were never really in it.

The Cowboys signed Spears, but are still in it.

John Clayton as of 7 minutes ago:

The Cowboys are becoming real players in the Nnamdi sweepstakes. The Jets still hold the lead.

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jul 29, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why are the Niners out?

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh i mustve missed that.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

From Michael Lombardi this am, who is very in the know

michaelombardi
Just updated the Nnamdi situation—49ers telling people they are out..Right now, Dallas and Jets, Ryan brothers are battling. Stay tuned

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jul 29, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lombardi is wrong a lot though. Esp with Raider news.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on Jul 29, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just like when every report said Harbaugh was going to Miami.

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My thoughtful watermelon is easily mistook for an early American catapult.
DURRRR THEY’RE TOO OLD, BABIP IS TOO HIGH, TOO MANY Ks, DURRRRRR

by mikev on Jul 29, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

'cause he wants to go to a winner

I don't feel that I'm feeling your feelings, about these feelings that you feel.

by doctorK on Jul 29, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

COWBOYS.

He will be ours.

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 29, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

WOO!

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Jul 29, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since birth

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 29, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

What a sad life you now have

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 29, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

....

You’re alive to me.

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Jul 29, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES!

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 29, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, not very long then.

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

mikev?

is that you?

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 29, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

Official Athletics Nation Rotating Tagline Editor - Pam liked my old sig better.
My thoughtful watermelon is easily mistook for an early American catapult.
DURRRR THEY’RE TOO OLD, BABIP IS TOO HIGH, TOO MANY Ks, DURRRRRR

by mikev on Jul 29, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

K

just checking

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 29, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Satan's Team

They have a pentagram on their helmet for Pete’s sake!

Cardenas!!!! WoooooooooooooHOOOOOOOOO

by Mattel on Jul 29, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a star.

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 29, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

BREAKING
Andrew Bailey, Casey Chavez, Steve Vucinich, Reggie Jackson, Diego Maradona and Jose Canseco sent to Cardinals for Albert Pujols and Matt Holliday. Matt Holliday immediately exiled to Farallon Islands farm team for Smiling Lessons and Coli Etiquette Training. Albert Pujols eats Conor Jackson in 3 bites and is installed as our 1B until he retires in 2019.

"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto

by emperor nobody on Jul 29, 2011 1:14 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

You almost had me for a second...

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes, Diego Maradona, that was realistic LOL

"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto

by emperor nobody on Jul 29, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

i saw BREAKING

and block quote. forgive me if i got a little excited.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

BREAKING

100% of the Brett Anderson tweets I have ever posted have been entirely fabricated by me, just to see if you guys would believe them.

"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto

by emperor nobody on Jul 29, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

i could see that.

his tweets read like he’s half baked anyway

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

my pants actually.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

YESSS

cuz he’s the coolest one of us all

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL, awesome.

Maradona is the cherry on top.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Jul 29, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shoot me now, going to a pre school graduation in an hour

Hopefully distracted by more A’s trade rumors and hopefully see some hot moms and teachers.

by J.J. Miller on Jul 29, 2011 1:26 PM PDT reply actions  

I worked at an Elementary School last year

In Shell Beach, which is 10 minutes south of San Luis Obispo. And wow, very very very attractive young MOMS all over that school. It was a great added bonus to an already fun job.

My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 29, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

If your goal is to just look and

maybe light flirting but nothing beyond that, then elementary school moms are the best. Way way better than singles at a bar.

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh I was very respectfully just looking!

Wow, it was great. The Central Coast has some of the most BEAUTIFUL women in the World. From Santa Barbara to San Luis Obispo. I have a very serious girl whom I love to death. But it is healthy to look!

My mannerism a prism/ And it should shine
Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time

by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jul 29, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Amen, brother.

In my experience, Oregon is unusually blessed with beautiful women. But thankfully they are everywhere.

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Jul 29, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

i wish the best.

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://twitter.com/#!/SI_JonHeyman
andrew bailey the fallback choice for #rangers if cant make bell deal. but but heath is 1st pick. #tradedeadline

by J.J. Miller on Jul 29, 2011 1:32 PM PDT reply actions  

that's probably been known for a while, because Bell should be cheaper

However, I wonder if they already are falling back or if they still are aggressive with Bell. That last rumor up top demanding Derek Holland; that is a nonstarter, Rangers aren’t taking a guy out of their rotation right now.

by Billy Frijoles on Jul 29, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha! The fallback for a player whose team

Wants to trade him, is a player whose team is not looking to trade.

by OaklandSi on Jul 29, 2011 1:45 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nate McLouth just hit the DL.

Braves are really going to need some Coco Puffs a centerfielder before Sunday.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Jul 29, 2011 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

makes sense

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

And they can have him

BJ Upton is on my “do not want” list.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I observed him yesterday at the game.....he looks like a jerk

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Jul 29, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then he's a jerk with surprisingly poor stats.

He has a ton of talent, but he hasn’t harnessed them at all.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

KOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUZ!!!

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Jul 29, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

(except Kouz isn't a jerk)

i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72

by Tutu-late on Jul 29, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really? I think Kouzmanoff is probably the opposite.

He doesn’t have a broad base of skills but for a few years, he’s been able to get as much as humanly possible out of himself. Only like, two of his five tools (fielding and power) are above average. And his power’s only slightly above average. He can’t run, his arm is weird (accurate, but not that strong) and he can’t hit for average. It’s impressive that he’s been as good as he has the past four years.

by NateHST on Jul 29, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

WOAH BIG TRADE

Dbacks acquire Ryan…Langerhans!

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 2:06 PM PDT reply actions  

watch out snakes on a plane with langerhans piloting

What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?

by greenbean on Jul 29, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh Olney

As of 5:15 p.m., NL source says the Phillies have no intention of putting Domonic Brown in a deal for Pence

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

ok this is sad

we dont even have a top 3 in ERA because there are no additional qualifiers past gio and cahill. (scroll down on the A’s website)

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 2:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Paging MO

Nick Eatman

After jerry’s long phone call that included rob ryan talking to someone – believed to be an agent – Jerry just gave a fist bump to Stephen.

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Jul 29, 2011 2:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh shit.

Oh my goodness.

Someday her tombstone will read,
"Here Lies MissOakland Barton. Hot baseball wife, beloved friend, defender of aprons." --Kyli

by MissOakland on Jul 29, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see new comments showing up,

but a few of them are just blank spaces… almost like they were placeholders or redacted comments.

by LoneStranger on Jul 29, 2011 2:37 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't.

So either:

1. Your computer is wigging out.
2. You’re on hallucinogens.
3. Both.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I prefer B

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's weird, because I can see replies to them.

Like Copenhagen right above, or iglew and mikev a little higher up. Oh, and a new one in reply to Widowwolf below.

by LoneStranger on Jul 29, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nico in censoring any

anti-Oakland p—

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Jul 29, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

*is

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Jul 29, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

anti-Oakland pis?

Eeeww.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

That entire post was fail

can you delete that? Haha.

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Jul 29, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Freaking A's twit feed

Saw this in my twitter feed and about had a heart attack:

athleticsfeedr CSN Bay Area – A’s: A’s send Gonzalez to cool red-hot Twins http://ffd.me/q0p2we #athletics

Thought we just traded Gio..Whew it’s just about him starting

Founder of team Omté Caspeen

by Widowwolf on Jul 29, 2011 2:37 PM PDT reply actions  

they def could have worded that better

"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."

by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it had been a trade, it would have to be more
A’s Send Cedrick Bowers To Cool Red-Hot Twins

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me too!

I even tweeted back. I just about flipped out.

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by MissOakland on Jul 29, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

ME TOO!!! IT'S the headline for a story. I saw it in the sidebar.

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Jul 29, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

off to the tailgate.

woohoo

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by thewhizkid on Jul 29, 2011 2:52 PM PDT reply actions  

AV:

If you are out there anyone to watch for on the Argentina U-20 team? Kickoff against Mexico is like 15-30 mins on Galavision.

by Copenhagen on Jul 29, 2011 2:59 PM PDT reply actions  

good timing. i just logged on.

nobody famous yet… erik lamela (yes, lamela does mean “lick it.”) plays for river plate and he might be a star some day. and facundo ferreyra has been shaping up as a good goal scorer for banfield in the national tournament.

by AV on Jul 29, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

trying now

Ü

OH YEAH. ₧ o}~₧╞₧¥£ÑÜü

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by mikev on Jul 29, 2011 3:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Cust too?

Just as Matsui took the lead over him

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Jul 29, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Jul 29, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

A's BASEBALL.
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by LoneStranger on Jul 29, 2011 3:06 PM PDT reply actions  

That must have taken you some time to do!

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Jul 29, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK so the 2 teams in the "2 team race" for Awesomewah are both out of the running.

I’m guessing he stays in Oakland or goes to SF.

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by mikev on Jul 29, 2011 3:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Last I heard

he’s about to be a Cowboy

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by MissOakland on Jul 29, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Via Adam Schefter

AdamSchefter

Jets out, Cowboys out on Nnamdi. Any one got any guesses?

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Jul 29, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

Just read that. I’m gonna go cry into my soup now.

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by MissOakland on Jul 29, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

They were in and out and in and out

I don’t

MOTHERFUCKER SCHEFTER JUST SAID ON SPORTSCENTER EAGLES. I WANT TO KILL SOMETHING RIGH TNOW.

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Jul 29, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

dshhakxABxkjbxjb

I am going to punch everything

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by MissOakland on Jul 29, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Confirmed

Life really sucks right now.

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Jul 29, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know how this just happened

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by MissOakland on Jul 29, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Samuel, Mugha and DRC

at corner….Holy shit.

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jul 29, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's going to scary

Philly already had one hell of a defense. Now it’s just unfair.

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Jul 29, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate that team

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Jul 29, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who should we pistol whip first?

Someday her tombstone will read,
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by MissOakland on Jul 29, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

So many choices

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Jul 29, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll let you pick first

Someday her tombstone will read,
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by MissOakland on Jul 29, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

New rumor is the Iggles

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 29, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

you heard wrong, kid.

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by mikev on Jul 29, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did.

From a high to a low in 5 minutes.

Someday her tombstone will read,
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by MissOakland on Jul 29, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I may or may not have a heartattack soon

JUST FREAKING SIGN SOMEWHERE!!!

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Jul 29, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trade time is not good for our health

Randy Jackson: "Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?"
Idol Contestant: [Nods]

by Berry Jo on Jul 29, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kinda funny at Niner's Nation,

They’re starting a new thread at 330 comments or so. Rookies.

by LoneStranger on Jul 29, 2011 3:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Yea and they always bitch about posting pictures.

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by mikev on Jul 29, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

they also have WAY too many front page posts.

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by mikev on Jul 29, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sold to Japan? Why haven't the A's done this with Fuentes?

mlbtraderumors

D’Backs announce sale of Yhency Brazoban to the Fukuoka Softbank Hawks.

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Jul 29, 2011 3:35 PM PDT reply actions  

because you shouldn't sell people.

Even if they are Brian Funtes.

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by MissOakland on Jul 29, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just picture Fuentes sitting on a shelf

with a “15 25 30 50% off” tag on him.

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Jul 29, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

CLEARANCE

Major League Reliever!

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by MissOakland on Jul 29, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Got store manager fired!"

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

wtf

That seems like it’s against the CBA.

by Billy Frijoles on Jul 29, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I had no idea they could even do that.

"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King

by YonYonson on Jul 29, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

You hear about it a few time a season,

though I don’t know what the process is for how it goes down.

by Copenhagen on Jul 29, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well they can't just send a player to Japan against their will.

I’m sure Brazoban agreed to it, or he can reject it. Though if he rejects it, he’d probably just get released. I’m not positive how it works either.

by NateHST on Jul 29, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's how soccer teams buy players

When an English soccer team wants to buy a player who’s under contract to another team, it negotiates with both the team and the player in question. They say, “If we pay Player X amount and Team Y amount, will you guys terminate your contract with each other and then, Player X, if we agree to pay you Z amount per week will you play for us?” When all those numbers are agreed to, the “purchase” goes through.

So Fukuoka would pay both Brazoban and the D’backs money so that they’d mutually agree to terminate their contract with each other, on the condition that Brazoban also agree to a contract with Fukuoka immediately afterwards.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 29, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

The general rule of thumb with these things is that the player usually requests it

Then, he is either released to sign with the team, or “sold”

Even a blind squirrel is right twice a day.

by Zonis on Jul 29, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jayson Stark tweet

Multiple sources say no more talk of 3-team deal for Pence. If #Phillies-#Astros deal happens, it will just be 2-team swap

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jul 29, 2011 4:14 PM PDT reply actions  

aww

Even a blind squirrel is right twice a day.

by Zonis on Jul 29, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why again isn't there a stand alone Langerhans thread?

We yet enjoy little to be envied, but endure much to be pitied.-Thomas Dudley

by Future Ed on Jul 29, 2011 4:28 PM PDT reply actions  

We'll put one up for two days.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nnamdi is an Iggle

Linky

I don't feel that I'm feeling your feelings, about these feelings that you feel.

by doctorK on Jul 29, 2011 4:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Anyone know how to interpret Dominican Summer League (DSL) slash lines?

Vicmal de la Cruz is hitting .331/.447/.448 but I don’t know if that’s terrific, fine, or awful.

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by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 6:00 PM PDT reply actions  

He seems to be leading the team in OBP and is second in SLG, so I think it indicates that he's doing well

He’s also 1 of only 2 players with more BBs than Ks.

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by Nick on Jul 29, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

A .447 OBP is certainly shiny!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

He doesn't have much power yet, but he's only 16

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 29, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Woo hoo! Thanks.

CALL HIM UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you're looking up box scores, use MiLB. But for stats, use FanGraphs.

They have a stat called wRC+, which is based on wOBA, then league and park adjusted. A wRC+ of 100 is average. Right now, his wRC+ is sitting at 160, good for 13th best in the league. In other words, yeah. He’s murdering the ball right now. Out of the twelve that are better than him, only two of them are younger (one by two days, so basically one). The only knock is that he isn’t hitting for much power, but his plate discipline makes up for that and then some.

by NateHST on Jul 29, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

On a similar note, Renato Nunez,

the A’s $2.2M Venezuelan signee, has a 110 wRC+, and he’s about five months younger than Vicmal. He’s shown better power than de la Cruz, but he’s only walked 4 times compared to 36 strikeouts.

by NateHST on Jul 29, 2011 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

On another similar note, if Vicmal de la Cruz ever makes it to the majors

can we agree right now to give him the one name Ichiro deal? Vicmal is such a sweet name.

by NateHST on Jul 29, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Deal.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks -- maybe I wasn't clear.

I know how to read the stats, I just don’t know what kind of a league DSL is considered to be. I was just curious whether lots of guys put up huge OBPs or whether it was as special as it would be in A-ball here.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

And yes, I realize things like wRC+ can help distill that, good point.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pence traded to phillies
confirmed pence goes to philly for singleton, cosart, 2 PTBNL

SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman

by J.J. Miller on Jul 29, 2011 6:15 PM PDT reply actions  

whoa

"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"

http://www.domingobeisbol.com/

by hero66 on Jul 29, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

both midseason BA top 25 prospects

Beware- Taylor was a midseason top 25 and Cardenas was a top 30 at one point, we know how that turned oyt

by J.J. Miller on Jul 29, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hear the PTBNLs are Roy Halladay and Cliff Lee

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sure Houston doesn't actually need all those guys,

so maybe they could send us Singleton?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay

so even a FP deadline thread didn’t result in a trade. What now?!

"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"

http://www.domingobeisbol.com/

by hero66 on Jul 29, 2011 6:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Trade it for a game thread?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 29, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

worth a shot

"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"

http://www.domingobeisbol.com/

by hero66 on Jul 29, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

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