Open Thread: 2011 June Player Draft
by Zonis on Jun 6, 2011 3:25 PM PDT
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Its that time of the year again. Time for the A's to attempt to renew their stores of talent in the Minor Leagues. The A's have the 18th overall pick today, but do not draft again until the 105th slot. If you want to follow the draft online, you can do so here. The draft order can be found here as well.
Lets Get to Speculating!
UPDATE: A's pick Sonny Gray with the 18th overall pick. 
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I speculate consternation around here
following our pick.
RIVER CATS: AAA CHAMPS!
I like Springer
Let’s just hope he is still available at #18.
It's sounding more and more likely
Some of the late buzz has teams like the Cubs and Padres, who were supposedly also looking at Springer, linked to other players.
Although with Speck ineligible, the Cubs may nab Springer.
We’ll see. I’m still rooting for Stephenson.
Cole goes #1
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
interesting stories about that pitcher
heard he has a dirty mouth
yes, imagine I said that in a swamp hick accent instead of the orbit ladies.
"Whether they find life there or not, I think Jupiter should be called an enemy planet." - Jack Handey
by bluthbanana20 on Jun 6, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
or was it Bauer with the trash-talking and unorthodox preparations
"Whether they find life there or not, I think Jupiter should be called an enemy planet." - Jack Handey
by bluthbanana20 on Jun 6, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
WOW Hultzen #2
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
If Pineda is for real and Hultzen pans out, my god...
the Mariners are gonna be a really good team, really soon. Dustin Ackley isn’t that far from the show and Nick Franklin will be there in due time.
You know you are big-time when people chant your name while you pee. - 67MARQUEZ
by bakerbeachboy on Jun 6, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
oops, wrong thread. Haha, I'm in too many AN open threads at once.
"Life is a horizontal fall" -Jean Cocteau
I want either a big bat that will be ready in 1-2 years
or a polished arm ready to pitch in a year or less….any thoughts?
"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."
-John "Blue Moon" Odom
Doesn't have to be a fast track for me, just high, high, high upside...
I think we should do a complete rebuild though and trade Cahill and Gio if we can get a GREAT return, so I may have a different mindset on what I want the A’s to do :)
Who are you hoping for mrod?
You know you are big-time when people chant your name while you pee. - 67MARQUEZ
by bakerbeachboy on Jun 6, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm hoping we don't have to do a complete blowup just yet
but, the way things are going, it might happen sooner than later. I basically want high upside as well, specifically a real, legit masher with 4-5 skills. Sound good?
"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."
-John "Blue Moon" Odom
I'm down!
I actually like Springer a lot. Hoping we get him. Sounds like he plays the game the right way too.
You know you are big-time when people chant your name while you pee. - 67MARQUEZ
by bakerbeachboy on Jun 6, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I have seen his name come up alot here.
Seems like there is some good talent this year again…
"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."
-John "Blue Moon" Odom
Trevor Bauer goes #3
"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."
-John "Blue Moon" Odom
Again, Bud with the Los Ange-leez
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
hope its serious enough to drop him to 18
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Bundeeeeeee!
"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."
-John "Blue Moon" Odom
O's take Bundy
I think it’s a good choice
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
yes
Nice pick at number four. Will cost quite a bit of money probably.
Ed or Bud Bundy? Peg maybe?
"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto
by emperor nobody on Jun 6, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
hahaha, awesome
You know you are big-time when people chant your name while you pee. - 67MARQUEZ
by bakerbeachboy on Jun 6, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Kouz is in the minors.
Is he a prospect now?
Hee.
Totally called Rendon falling out of Top 5.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
A's tied with fewest of all teams with 4 picks
I hate seeing that fact scrolling on the ticker
"Whether they find life there or not, I think Jupiter should be called an enemy planet." - Jack Handey
I think it's mostly for production reasons
The MLB wants their draft to be a big deal like the NFL draft so they need time between picks to let the talking heads “analyze” the picks and interview the players.
I always liked listening to the draft on the internet, pre-5 minute rule
They would barrel through the first round in about 10 minutes. It was like a Texas cattle auction. Fun.
Yep.
Just a bunch of scouting directors on a call. You could occasionally hear them get excited when a name fell to them that they didn’t expect. When the Angels ’ guy tabbed Chris Bootcheck a number of years ago, I think that was the most elated I’ve ever heard a human being sound.
Are you sure those weren't A's fans?
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
That exact pick was from the A's, for Mike Magnante
The Legendary Mike Magnante, that is. Our first pick (in the second round) was the Immortal Freddie Bynum. Not their finest moment.
So they set Magnante on us and we set Bootcheck on them.
Probably a draw.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Works great for me at work.
I only pop over to check every 10 minutes or so anyway.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Holy shit...Strasburg, Harper, now Rendon? Some serious star power there
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
The rest isn't much to shout about so you're not missing much.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Anthony Rendon is going to move to what position?
"You're all like big, fat failure turtles." - Edge
by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 6, 2011 4:37 PM PDT reply actions
Oh sure, interview him in a room full of family and friends, that seems fair.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Ha, what?
What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger, I guess?
Get out the time-fracture wickets, Hobbes! We're gonna play Calvinball!
Good thing the draft is on
I can’t watch this game anymore.
Maybe we'll be picking around now this time next year.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
I don't know how they live with themselves. It's OBVIOUS they're with the guy cos he's going to be rich.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
They also have athletic talent.
That can be sexy, too.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Jesus, hurry up and get to 18.
That rug really tied the room together...
by Streams Of Whiskey on Jun 6, 2011 4:44 PM PDT reply actions
They don't even need 5 minutes. It's very, very annoying.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Things should get interesting now.
Springer is looking unlikely.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Too many things need to go right.
Cubs were looking at Starling and Bradley before that Speck rumor. But Speck isn’t eligible and those other two guys just got picked. Springer might be next on their board. And even if they don’t choose him, there’s still the Padres, Brewers (twice), and Mets.
Hello Cory Spangenberg.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Par for the course with this organization.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
It has been since I started following them, yes.
Shocking choice on my part.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
What about that Norris guy that DFA wants?
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
He's good but he has pretty big bonus demands (4 million+)
A’s are said to be intent on a college bat.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Specker IS eligible
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
Speck*
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
Heard tha he wasn't
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
I thought MLB ruled him ineligible.
Did they change their mind?
Get out the time-fracture wickets, Hobbes! We're gonna play Calvinball!
From scout
The sh*t bouncing around about Garcia Speck is just incredible. Goldstein’s chat has the text of a letter from MLB on his draft eligibility. Here it is with my own timeline:
1. Conor Glassey of BA breaks story on Onelcki Garcia Speck is available for the draft and a potential late first round pick.
2.Frankie Piliere breaks news that Cubs are on Garcia Speck at #9.
3. Garcia Speck’s agent, Gus Dominguez, sends letter out to MLB teams stating his client is NOT eligible for the 2011 draft.
4. MLB sends response letter saying he IS eligible.
“We understand that Gus Dominguez has contacted Clubs for the purpose of asserting that Onelki Garcia is not eligible for the 2011 First-Year Player Draft, which begins this evening. Consistent with the attached, which Joel Araujo sent to your attention on Saturday, June 4, please be advised that the Office of the Commissioner has determined that Garcia has established residency in the United States and is therefore subject to the 2011 First-Year Player Draft.
Based on the information we have received regarding Garcia’s residency status, it is our understanding that Garcia established residency and began working out in the United States in February 2011. We have repeatedly requested that Gus Dominguez provide us with documentary evidence supporting his claim that Garcia is a legal resident of a country other than the United States, but no such information has been provided to us. The Office of the Commissioner is, of course, unable to declare a player ineligible for the Rule 4 Draft based solely on the bare assertions of his representative that he is not a resident of the United States within the meaning of Major League Rule 4. As a result, the Office of the Commissioner has determined that Garcia is subject to the First-Year Player Draft.
Please let me know if you have any questions."
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
That's Toddy Baseball's writing not me
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
Toddy later wrote another post on scout.com saying he isn't
I’m confused too.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Latest was that he isn't.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
I'm behind an hour or two did it change again?
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
So ..
Can somebody explain to me how last year’s pick has looked to this point? Does michael choice look like he’s going to be a stud? His stats don’t appear to be too impressive.
They aren't.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
He's hitting for power.
But striking out a TON. Which is a bad sign in the lower levels of the minors.
Lots of power, still stricks out too much. Work in progress.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
He went 0-5 the other night...
…with 5 strikeouts!!! I wish I was joking.
You know you are big-time when people chant your name while you pee. - 67MARQUEZ
by bakerbeachboy on Jun 6, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Golden Sombrero is four.
So, you could be right?
Get out the time-fracture wickets, Hobbes! We're gonna play Calvinball!
it’s hard to meh though when the draft is our lifeline and we’ve been mehing for the last few years.
He's still young and he has a ton of power. Plus he's playing CF (I think). There's no need to panic just yet.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Yeah a years worth is definitely not enough time to decide wether he’s going to be a good player or not. Time will tell, it just becomes so difficult to be patient when your offense is what ours has been the last few years.
I miss the excitement of young offensive prospects. We were spoiled for so long with that.
Bradley is going to get paid
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
First 60 picks
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
He's meant to stick at SS, so that immediately makes him valuable. Beyond that, who knows?
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Would love to get Mahtook
Looks like a quality bat.
Do not like him
Seems like a tweener to me.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
I'm told he has questionable CF defense and projects as a platoon player.
But my gut feeling is that he has good tools, and adjusted to the new bats pretty well.
by Axl on Jun 6, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
So....Travis Buck?
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
He's meh just like every other college bat past Springer if he can't stay in center.
And he probably can’t stay in center.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
seems sorta averageish offensively to me, and the fact that he might have to move out of CF makes me want to stay away.
"Life is a horizontal fall" -Jean Cocteau
Not the guy to take if you're looking for a superstar. A horribly safe pick.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
I think we might be underrating Mahtook a bit
He will stick in the OF and is a quality bat. Not great, but a solid regular. BTW, would love to get a quality bat, but when you’re picking 18, that’s not easy.
How many "not great, but solid" regulars do we have again?
How many of our prospects are projected to be that?
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
I see coco, willingham, dejesus, suzuki, barton, sweeney,
maybe pennington and ellis on a good day as all “not great but solid” players
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
And it's the stars we will continue to not have.
Unless the A’s shock the world and draft Bell.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Surely that many 'solid' players would put up better numbers than this offence currently is doing.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Sometimes solid players play like shit.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Seriously?
not great, but solids on our team? Not many.
Definitely thought Cleveland would go pitcher
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Why's that?
They took Pomeranz last year. Just asking.
Lot of good college pitching available
Can never have too much of it. Didn’t hear they were on Lindor.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
True.
Lot’s of good pitching in this class.
Do not go into the game thread/turn the game on. It's not pretty.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Now you tell me
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Score is just 0-4
but I’ll bet the game thread is going ballistic. They’re temperamental folks.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
everything is friggin dropping!
and the A’s hit the ball directly at the defense.
Never turned it on
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Beyond this draft thread, I'm not sure how much more time I'd spend on this site the rest of the year.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
this
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
You'll be back when the A's trade Willingham/DDJ
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
Will they considering they have to resign at least one of them with crisp to contend next year?
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
First bullet dodged.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Hard to say.
He could’ve gone anywhere from where he was picked now to 25.
The Brewers were said to be in on him.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Yes but his bat speed was supposed to be at or near the top of this draft
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Hard to believe there's a ~20 year old named "Archie".
Is that name making a comeback?
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
San Diego....
PLEASE SAVE US FROM CORY SPANGENBERG.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Klaw says Pads will take him
Somebody gomake sure that padfan guy is still alive
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Poor guy. I warned him about his team taking Spangenberg a while ago.
He didn’t believe me.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
They still might not
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
OK they did.
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Meant to be read as K-law
But I always read it as claw, which I agree is awesome.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Spangenberg can hit
I think he actually has better odds of making the majors than Springer. Although Springer has more upside, certainly.
He can hit like Ben Revere could hit.
Contact is his only tool. He has no projectability whatsoever nor a position. He’s basically Eric Sogard.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Gonna have to disagree with you there
But reasonable people can disagree.
I dislike these interviews. Athletes aren't public speakers for a reason.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Can we take a GM at 18?
and then an Owner at 105?
Ours aren’t worth beans.
Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier. The cigars taste better. The trees are greener. Billy Martin
I don't follow the Padres much....but those names don't ring a bell.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Woooooooooooooooooooooooo
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
We're saved!
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
*Padfan dies*
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Ok. Now someone please save us from Levi Michael.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
this
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, someone go make sure lenscrafters is okay
The Klaw says the Astros will take Springer
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
what the fuck, they were supposed to take a pitcher
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Springer is no sure thing anyway, is he?
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
He has a pretty damn high upside, but yeah nobody is a sure thing in the draft.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
I don't mind not getting Springer
The problem is that it probably means we take Michael or Mahtook…which is ungood.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
That's exactly why I mind not getting Springer.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
My feelings exactly.
"It takes no talent to give great effort." - Chris Petersen
If Springer goes to the Astros, I really hope we make things interesting and draft someone with a high ceiling like Josh Bell.
Go big or go home, especially when we don’t have another pick till the 3rd round.
You know you are big-time when people chant your name while you pee. - 67MARQUEZ
I'm all for this
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Bell isn't going to sign
No point picking him
by buckfan6 on Jun 6, 2011 5:04 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Money talks
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
We'll convince him at Fatapples
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
He wants $5.5m apparently, but hell it's not like the owners can't afford that.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
I think he's put feelers out there - but yeah it's a high number. And yeah the Rangers/Red Sox/Rays will draft him
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Especially without a 2nd round pick
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Bell already said
He’s not going to sign. He’s going to Texas
by buckfan6 on Jun 6, 2011 5:06 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The A's would never do that because they're the A's.
Latest rumor was Texas, a well run team, taking him.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Can you imagine Bell hitting at the Ballpark in Arlinton if he reaches his ceiling? Fuuuuuuu**...
You know you are big-time when people chant your name while you pee. - 67MARQUEZ
by bakerbeachboy on Jun 6, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
A switch hitting Josh Hamilton?
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Wow, that's a pretty impressive prospect
Why was he never considered a top 10 pick even before the don’t draft me letter?
He's a LF/DH
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Ive seen a lot less DH talk recently
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Because the draft is loaded with pitching and he can't play center.
In a regular year, he would’ve gone top 5.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
I might cover my head with the duvet for the next hour now. This is going to be horrible isn't it?
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Yeah
You know you are big-time when people chant your name while you pee. - 67MARQUEZ
by bakerbeachboy on Jun 6, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Supposed to be one of the deepest drafts in years
Now that the consensus pick is gone the A’s pick could go in a number of different ways. Seems interesting to me.
True
that’s why I’m very interested in what we do tomorrow. The number 18 pick is huge, but we have to do something great in the third round.
If we pick a 'safe, solid, polished' college player AN might explode. Just warning you.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Well, that's been happening with regularity all season
I’m still excited to get a quality prospect into the system.
Please take Barnes or Norris.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
What's great about Norris?
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
low-mid 90s fastball, great changeup for a high schooler, above average curve.
- upside
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
er, that should say #2 upside
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Ya but why not a college guy like Gray or Barnes?
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Gray might be a reliever....I like Barnes
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
That, and he's left-handed.
You know you are big-time when people chant your name while you pee. - 67MARQUEZ
by bakerbeachboy on Jun 6, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Wouldn't mind Guerreri either
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Pray for Daniel Norris
"It takes no talent to give great effort." - Chris Petersen
Springer gone.....that sucks.
"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."
-John "Blue Moon" Odom
Essentially
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Yep.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
I'd like a hitter please. Y'know, considering we don't have any.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Nimmo sounds like fun
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Swihart?
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Lots of tools, hasn't demonstrated much baseball ability yet
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Dunno, haven't researched this draft all that much, I've been busy.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
I still hold out hope for Bell
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I've seen the A's linked with CJ Cron a few times. He'll probably still be on the board.
He’s all offense, but he’s got a lot of offense to give.
Yay a DH with the first round pick!
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Watching him run, he might not be athletic enough for even DH
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
We'll find out if we draft him
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Imagine a more rotund Brett Wallace.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Still, there's lot of fat baseball players. They manage to get round the bases.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Wallace is listed as 6'2, 205
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=8434&position=1B
That may not be accurate. But neither is Cron’s.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Point is, they're both big boys.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Probably. Maybe a serviceable 1B with some coaching.
He hit .434/.517/.803 though (15 HR, 26 doubles) with the new bats, so he’s not exactly chopped liver. Definitely prefer him to Michael or Mahtook.
No point taking a 1B/DH in the first round unless their bat is as good as a Hosmer's.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
He's leading the NCAA in SLG. From his page on the Utah baseball website:
[Cron] ranked second nationally in doubles per game (0.53), third in batting average (.434), sixth in doubles (26), sixth in total bases (159), ninth in on-base percentage (.517) and 11th in home runs per game (0.31).
That's nice.
But no scout or analyst seems to think he has a Hosmer or even LaPorta level bat.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Yep, unless we try and sign Josh Bell.
At this point I wouldn’t even mind if we drafted him and don’t sign him, then get an extra pick in the draft next year. I’m sooo sick of the mediocrity surrounding everything this season. Let us at least get a a 1st round pick with some high upside.
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by bakerbeachboy on Jun 6, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Mets will take Brandon Nimmo
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Wow, good stuff.
wish we still had that kind of thinking
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
When they show the A's draft room
I bet it will have 3 guys in it, all looking bored…
Beane won’t be there.
Even a blind squirrel is right twice a day.
A picture surfaced of him not smiling
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
I heard it from saint
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Nico. Saint. EN. Trainman
Whatever other heap of people here follow the groupthink mob mentality
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey Mike! That's not really fairman
I take offense to that….and you know I respect ya. :)
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It's nothing personal toward anybody mentioned
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Ok,,,I'll take your word for it.
That was a pretty intense thread….and I think it was very much needed.
Now let’s get a godamned bat!
"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."
-John "Blue Moon" Odom
From not wanting to believe the alternative
which is he’s interested, but just sucks.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Crap. I liked him
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
No. That's the beauty of him. He's mysterious
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
If we take Levi Michael and the Red Sox take Bell right after us, I'm going to throw a chair.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
I would like to take Bell as well.
If we can’t sign him, don’t we get two picks next year?
As long as the new CBA doesn't change the current rules on that.
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by bakerbeachboy on Jun 6, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that one is locked in with this draft.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
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what about 2012 draft though?
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by bakerbeachboy on Jun 6, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm saying I think that if a team fails to sign a guy from the 2011 draft,
the current CBA rules apply to them getting the comp pick in 2012.
What happens if you fail to sign a guy in 2012 we don’t know.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
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Ah, got it, thanks.
In that case, I hope we go for big upside…even if there are sign-ability concerns.
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by bakerbeachboy on Jun 6, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Mind you, I'm not 100% sure of that.
But I think that’s how it is.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
I'd probably just turn the laptop off. My chair is pretty heavy.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
We need a bat!!!! Dammit!
"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."
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Best player in the history of Wyoming?!
Is that like Ellis and N/S Dakota?
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
They don't even have high school baseball there
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
or the city of San Francisco
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by bakerbeachboy on Jun 6, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Gary Matthews Jr.
Keith Hernandez
Jim Fregosi
Lefty O’Doul
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
ROSALES SPRINTING AROUND ALL 4!
still losing
Yes, he didn't sprint around all 4 bases on a popout
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd love to see that
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Yeah, a two run shot.
A’s still losing.
Get out the time-fracture wickets, Hobbes! We're gonna play Calvinball!
Yup...2 run Jimmy Jck !
"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."
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Can we just meld the two threads together.
Not sure if we will be talking about the game too much…at least not until pick 19.
what he said
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
God, I can't take anymore of these "analysts" on the stream.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Greg Amsinger is dreadful
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
WHOA. Didn't expect that.
Mahtook is looking more and more likely.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
please god no
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
OK, how bad is he?
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
From what I have read
He’s got tools, but some worry about his transition with the wood. Many don’t believe he will stick at CF. He won’t have great power.
That's a lot of question marks.
I’ve never liked Mahtook, but that’s just my eyeball test.
"Some of us know him as the a-hole who piled into Ray Fosse in an All-Star game (it's why Ray is the way he is folks)" - OptimistPrime
Mahtook?
He’s not bad. Just meh.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
I don't want that. I want someone either awesome or terrible
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Why terrible?
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
I mean I want upside and I'm willing to assume risk
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Mehtook?
As in
- “How was your first round of the draft?”
- “Meh … took Mehtook.”
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
That'll probably catch on pretty quick.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
You want a HS pitcher?
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Easily the best stuff of anyone left on the board. Besides Gray, who'll be a reliever most likely.
"Life is a horizontal fall" -Jean Cocteau
I don't see why Gray has to be a reliever
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, touched 100 mph
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Oh god I nearly fell asleep. Hurry the fuck up already.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Jed Bradley to the Crew
Los Angeleez Dodgers up next
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Questions about his ability to start
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
We'll take him, our medical staff ruins him within a year, then we DLS him
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
But why? Just because he has no changeup?
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure exactly.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Because he's small
Tim Lincecum and Tim Hudson disagree with them.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Lot of teams think he's a reliever
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
If that's the reason, it's not a very good one
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd take him over any of the HS pitchers
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
i wanted to trade up for Trevor Bauer
oh, right
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People here would be ecstatic if we got him.
He’s got lots of fire.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
So Bob Geren didn't go to UCLA then?
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
I learned teh maths.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Tyler Anderson to LAD says Klaw
Dan-iel Nor-ris, CLAP CLAP, CLAPCLAPCLAP
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
EXCEPT FOR NOW
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
hah! you're wrong KLAW!!
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
to be fair, he did say "probably"
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Does anyone else think the picks are in WAY before the five minute mark, but MLB hold them back so they can
‘interview’ the prospects?
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Oh, of course.
No doubt about it. Either they’re already in, or the teams are deliberately told to sit on it until the 5 min mark.
I guess they're in, but Bud just sits on it for a couple of minutes.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
LAD take LHP Chris Reed from Stanford
"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."
-John "Blue Moon" Odom
They must really be short of money
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Chris Reed? Supposedly the Astros had a predraft deal with him.
Why didn’t they consummate it?!!?
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
TAKE JOSH BELL AND PAY HIM 10 MILLION DOLLARS
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Yes!! Let's do it! Back up the Brinkley Truck!
"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."
-John "Blue Moon" Odom
Professor
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Back up that truck!
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
YESYESYESYES
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
It would be the most fun pick
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Definitely a product of their financial woes
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Reed might make a nice closer, supposedly.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Not sure why they would waste it so early
They have Tolleson in the minors. He’s rising quickly, dominating wherever he goes.
I was thinking that as well.
They also spent quite a bit last year at this time on Lee.
Can we fantasize about a Matt kemp trade again, then?
"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."
-John "Blue Moon" Odom
Someone hypnotize the Angels into taking Chris Bootcheck again.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
LOL! Awesome!
"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."
-John "Blue Moon" Odom
OK seriously. People are showing up now, gotta start this party
hurry and pick, assholes.
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MO says Springer is the hottest hottie in the draft so far.
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Gio is the clear choice
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
He won the hottie poll handily.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Oh brother.....
"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."
-John "Blue Moon" Odom
LAA takes the DH
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Oh i agree
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
That's not much of an endorsement.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Anglws pick who? Cron?
"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."
-John "Blue Moon" Odom
A's on the clock
And we saw the latest target of our Hate from LAA
Even a blind squirrel is right twice a day.
WHOA? Cron to the Angels?
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Wikipedia has fallen behind.
They aren’t even showing the Dodgers pick yet.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Now pick Bell you cheap bastards!!!!!!
"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."
-John "Blue Moon" Odom
Wow. Dude's NOT athletic looking. At all.
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I meant when he was lumbering around the bases
That guy is gonna turn a LOT of doubles into singles.
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Oh wow, judging by that little highlights clip, he really can't run.
Also he’s going to turn out to be a monster. Just cos he went to a division rival.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
He'll probably hit some bombs against us.
And people will complain.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Round 1 of "How will the A's screw this up!"
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Looks like Lackey Jr.
"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."
-John "Blue Moon" Odom
OMFG CONSPIRACY THEY'REGONNA TAKE BELL AND THEN NOT PAY HIM SO THEY CAN SAVE MONEY
THANKS AGAIN LEW GO BUY SOME MORE ARTWORK AMIRITE GUYS?!?!?
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But I want him
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL at the Angels picking Cron. Scioscia would probably never play him.
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by King Richard on Jun 6, 2011 5:40 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Hee
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
He's the antitheis of the small, fast, latin/white guys they have
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Norris or Gray
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by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 5:40 PM PDT reply actions
Keith Law thinks the A's will pick Gray.
"You're all like big, fat failure turtles." - Edge
by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 6, 2011 5:40 PM PDT reply actions
He also thought the Angels would take Norris
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
No he hasn't. Just the last couple when he admitted he was guessing
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Gray? Norris? Please...
"It takes no talent to give great effort." - Chris Petersen
Baseball America ranks Sonny Gray 12th.
"You're all like big, fat failure turtles." - Edge
by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 6, 2011 5:41 PM PDT reply actions
Mahtook or Michael
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
if its mahtook or michael ill be super pissed
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by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
41 is a fine age, thank you very much.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
No, I'm 45.
I think my wife was 41 the last time we were together. [Does the math.] Yeah. Depending on how you define “together”.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
I take Gray or Barnes here
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
Gotta take Gray.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Goldstein says it's Gray!
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
He's recanting the Michael prediction?
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Sizemore just got a hit coming in for Ellis
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-John "Blue Moon" Odom
A hit from a second baseman?!
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
It's a new rule
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm OK with Mr. Gray
But he better start
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
this
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by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I can dig it....!
"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."
-John "Blue Moon" Odom
Okee dokee!
"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."
-John "Blue Moon" Odom
Not bad. Could've been worse.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
could have been worse. But doesn't trying to justify picks like that every year disappoint you?
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by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure how much more the A's could've done.
Bell would’ve been ideal but we’re fans and we want BPA no matter what without knowing the details behind the scenes. It could’ve been that Bell wanted 5-6 million. It could’ve been that 8 million wouldn’t even be able to get him to sign. We don’t know that relationship between the team and the player. From all accounts, the A’s really liked him beforehand.
Gray is best available choice here. Had no idea he’ll fall this far.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Who all would you have preferred over Gray.
Norris I know. Anyone else?
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Norris Guerrieri Meyer, Gray was my board
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by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Well Billy Beane continues his four year trend of not listening to me
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by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 5:44 PM PDT reply actions
I know right?
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by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Im just saying Grandel looks mighty fine right now
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by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you demand Trout over Weeks?
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
green
no one did
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Sorry I meant Green. I was fine with Green.
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I wanted Scheppers if I remember right
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by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually saw a rumor for it on the Scout board
And everyone was disgusted.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
They thought Trout was a reach?
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Absolutely
He was a late first rounder or supplemental. Taking him at (10?) would have been an overdraft.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
A's taking Trout?
And people were disgusted?
I probably would’ve been too at the time, if Green was still there.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Yep
Everyone thought it would have been a huge reach. Oops.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
Could be worse.
You mentioned Gray as an OK second choice at this point.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Their last 3 first round picks haven't been bad
I actually advocated Green and Choice. Gray is nice value here as well.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
So we didn't took Meh.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Thank goodness
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Still funny
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Gammons mentioning that Tim Hudson was only 5"11
and he turned out to be pretty good in the big leagues.
"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."
-John "Blue Moon" Odom
Don't forget Roy Oswalt
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
His stuff looks pretty fucking nasty, though.
Can he make it as a starter?
"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."
-John "Blue Moon" Odom
Jim Bowden has said a lot of stupid things in that chat
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
This kid throws 95 plus also Hudson didn't
by buckfan6 on Jun 6, 2011 5:50 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Be wary of velocity reports from just drafted players.
They’re often inflated. Or pitchers, specifically college ones, lose velocity as they transition to a pro workload. I heard Hudson used to hit 96 in college.
It’s likely that when we see Gray actually pitching for us, he’ll be throwing low 90s.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
I thought high school pitchers were more prone to that.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Perhaps.
Some high schoolers gain velocity though, as they get bigger and their bodies finish developing.
College pitchers, especially the top ones, are hurt by the college workload. By the time they get to the majors, even before they get drafted, there’s already a lot of mileage on the arm.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Yeah I thought high schoolers had a week between starts, which allowed them to pitch harder.
When they get into the grind of a pro season they lose velocity.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
From scout's report
Height is the only thing keeping Gray from being a lock for the top 6-7 picks in this draft class. You do have to worry about his size and whether he’ll be durable as a pro. But, he has the three pitch mix including two plus pitches and above average command to be front end starter.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
Yes
Upper 90s with the fastball and a hammer curve. Main question is size, which is a legitimate question
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Good stuff. He should start.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
If he starts, great pick
If not, I don’t like taking a reliever at #18.
"You do have to worry about his size and whether he’ll be durable as a pro."
Sounds almost like how Lincecum was once described.
by Washoe Zephyr on Jun 6, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
if you're not excited about Gray
you haven’t seen him pitch. Dude is a bulldog. The fact that he dropped here is awesome.
I am sort of dissapointed
I wished we had gotten an elite bat, but then again, with how we develop offensive prospects, perhaps its better to draft a pitcher, and then trade for offense?
Even a blind squirrel is right twice a day.
That's a good point
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Which is exactly what we should be doing now, instead of foolishly deeming injury-plagued pitchers as "untouchable".
On our current team, only Cahill should be untouchable.
Cahill should be traded this winter
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't you even want to know whom we get back?
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
NOBODY
Nobody on this team should be untouchable.
by Washoe Zephyr on Jun 6, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sure with the way things are going we will get
Our wish for that big bat in the draft next year
by buckfan6 on Jun 6, 2011 6:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
That would irk me
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
You'd think it would be
But given how few picks actually make the majors it would be a semi-success.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
That may be true but it's a very low bar if your objective is to win the World Series
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I use to believe in this but not anymore.
Who cares if all your first round picks make the majors if they all turn into Cliff Penningtons.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
I never said it would be a success
Just a semi-success. At least it’s something. But the A’s need stars. And that’s why Bell needs to pull a Austin Wilson and drop to the third where the A’s can pick him.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
Well, I wouldn't be thrilled if this were to happen,
but it’s an acceptable outcome, given how many guys get hurt or flame out.
by Axl on Jun 6, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Matt Barnes to the Sux!
"You're early, but hang around; we'll have a fight for you sooner or later."
-John "Blue Moon" Odom
This makes me feel better about Bell.
His demands must be outrageous if even the Sox are passing on him.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Might be an Austin Wilson-type drop
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
I hope he's still there at 105
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I never liked him or Fuentes
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Yikes! It is!
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
without being able to see the footplant, it's hard to tell how bad it really is though.
The problem with the Inverted W is timing, so you can’t tell anything without at least seeing where the foot is in that picture, and really you need to see him at release.
"Life is a horizontal fall" -Jean Cocteau
Hes got it. Its not the worst ever but its far from ideal
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by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
you guys are all designed
to be slightly dissatisfied. this is the best news we’ve had in a long time.
I think the pick generally got good reviews
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Guys on minorleagueball thought it was a steal
Everything I’m reading looks good
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
yeah, my point is
we got a top twelve talent at 18, this is great, there is reason to pop moderately priced champagne.
Great scouting report on Gray
Some excerpts:
Fastball – Gray has big velocity, regularly sitting 94-96 mph and touching as high as 97/98 mph when he reaches back for it. There is good armside life on the pitch and when on he can fill-up the strikezone from black-to-black.
Curve – Gray’s curve is perhaps the best in the class, with hard downer action on the power bender. He is low- to mid-80s with the pitch and gets consistent shape and bite.
Change-up – Gray doesn’t use his change-up much, but it flashes above average as a straight offering with some late dive.
Slider – Gray has fooled around with a mid-80s slider, but it is still inconsistent and not often utilized.
Gray has one of the top three two-pitch combos in the class, and has an argument for the top fastball/breaking ball pairing. His size may drop him on some boards, but if he makes it out of the top five overall he’ll provide incredible value to a lucky team. Probability is high, considering his fallback is as a potentially elite closer with two plus-plus pitches and long track record of big stuff and good production.
Hope I didn’t quote too much, it’s a very good, very extensive report
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
by hero66 on Jun 6, 2011 5:55 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm liking this pick more and more
Immediately infuses high quality pitching talent in the minors.
I certainly hope that's an accurate assessment.
Damn.
Get out the time-fracture wickets, Hobbes! We're gonna play Calvinball!
hammy pull
hey little girl
…want a cookie?
by ChickenStanley on Jun 6, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Weeks's ears just perked up
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
It does create a diplomatic and respectful way to ease him out.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Weeks has been pulled out from the Rivercats game...
That means that Blevins will be release and he will take the spot of Ellis.
He hasn't even heard the offer yet
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
True
But he said he was going to Vandy. Those are some reports at least.
This is all very frustrating. I really really liked Guerreri.
"Never have a motto, that's what I always say" - Me
http://marcel-oehler.marcellosendos.ch/comics/ch/1986/05/19860506.gif
"I Hate SF" - The Chosen One.
He would have been better than Spangenberg or whatever
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Gray's mechanics
Kinda side view: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAZ1zIbLBeM
From the backstop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2w4cpzuzqc&feature=related
"If you wrote something for which someone sent you a check, if you cashed the check and it didn't bounce, and if you then paid the light bill with the money, I consider you talented." —Stephen King
Those don't look as bad as the still picture
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Thats the best footage they had of Ross, Playing catch?
"Macha hates you"- Tacoma fans heckling Kielty
Losing streak reaches 7 games
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
Gray is kind of like a righthanded Gio
Comparable stuff, velocity, movement…absolutely vicious breaking ball. Does not have great control, or command. At 18, it’s a very nice pick. Interesting that they took him over Barnes, who seems to be more the A’s type.
by AgitationStation on Jun 6, 2011 6:45 PM PDT reply actions
my favorite
B__McCarthy Brandon McCarthy
“This guy’s a volleyball player. No idea why they drafted him. He’s also kind of a loser. Intangibles? Zilch.”- Would love to hear once
7 minutes ago
Even a blind squirrel is right twice a day.
He was considered like a 4th round pick, no?
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope that's not it. Would be a pity.
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Why a pity?
What’s with all the Tampa Bay love around here anyway? Seems like every stat-minded A’s fan who is disappointed with the A’s front office is now enamored of the Rays. WTF. That’s like a dingers-minded A’s fan who is disappointed with the A’s hitting becoming a Yankees fan.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
A's fans tend to like smart front offices
Everybody likes the David who outsmarted Goliath. Plus they are in direct competition with the Yanks and Sox, the antitheses of the A’s. It makes perfect sense to root for the Rays.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
I call bullshit.
You say you like smart front offices. Maybe you became an A’s fan because our front office was smart. But now some other front office is smarter, so you ditch the A’s and cozy up to them instead?
That’s exactly the same kind of bandwagoneering that other fans do when they pile on for the team that wins the most games. It’s not the opposite of the Yankees, it’s exactly analogous, except that you do it for brains instead of for money.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Rooting for the Rays will never be the same as rooting for the A's,
But they are an organization I respect and a team that proves the A’s can compete if they’re smart enough. It’s like rooting for a friend to do well when you lose early.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
Screw you.
Its nothing like that. It has nothing to do with the team that is popular or wins. Its completely different. Its about respecting smart baseball people and hoping they do well. Its why I root for the Twins and the Rays secondarily to the A’s and have a lot of respect for Daniels in TX. Its about hating the power structure of the MLB that puts people with money ahead of people that don’t have it. Its about rewarding people that scout and do stats research well, over those with a silver spoon in their hand.
If I was going to do what you just did, I would say that you hate the American dream if you call us bandwagoning fans, but Im not going to do that.
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I think both sentiments are off base
First, I do enjoy the Rays and the Twins because EF the Spankees and Red Sux. For a team to have a low payroll and go to the playoffs is great! I’m not sure where, at all, vignette disavowed himself from his Oakland fandom. A little offensive to accuse him of such.
But, we also have to know that the A’s, Twins, and Rays are nothing alike! The A’s built its team off of market inefficiencies, while the Rays built their team using multiple number one picks and very toolsy players. Twins, along the same vein, draft toolsy players and have a remarkable pedigree for developing pitchers. Might be the only similarity between the A’s and Twins.
A pity because I like it when people do well and not when opportunities are lost
I’m a baseball fan more than I am an A’s fan. I have no problem with the Rays or Yankees or whomever.
Also I’m not “stat-minded”.
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 7, 2011 6:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Unfortunately I think this is it.
Thought they might be more aggressive.
So, unless I'm mistaken....
Both Norris and Bell make it to day 2, yes?
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
but probably not to #105...
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Shush, you
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
This is why not having a second round pick blows
Norris wants 3.9m so maybe he falls all the way.
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I would be extatic with a Gray Norris draft. Since Gray seems to be slot thats only like a 5m investment.
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Good video of Sonny Gray
His stuff looks filthy!
I like his stuff when he is working down in the zone
some of the high sinkers and curveballs looked like they could get hammered.
Thanks for the link!
am i crazy
or did i see that dante bichette was drafted just a few picks before dwight smith? what year is it?
Now Jack Armstrong
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 7, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Rays get Granden Goetzman with the pick the A's gave them for Balfour
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The mlb.com guys don't
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 7, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
What was the story with not signing with Texas?
Did it have to do with the bankruptcy thing?
( … fine, I’ll do the Google search myself.)
"The hard... is what makes it great."
slashed 301/408/548
12 doubles, 12 bombs
37 K, 60 BB
by mk on Jun 7, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
BA Vollmuth, USM
this year: 301/408/548/956, 12 HR, 60K in 219 AB, 37 BB, 2/2 SB, .904 fielding, 21 errors
"The hard... is what makes it great."
somebody make a new thread
Vollmuth Ks a ton. good talent, big uphill climb to ever be a big leaguer.
by AgitationStation on Jun 7, 2011 10:06 AM PDT reply actions
Mark Reynolds?
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 7, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
new thread!
new thread: here, with some rule-breaking involved, i think. oops.
"The hard... is what makes it great."
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