Brett Anderson's Left Elbow Seeks Medical Review
by louismg on Jun 6, 2011 11:11 AM PDT
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PrintAs many on AN have speculated, given Brett Anderson's visible loss in velocity and struggles to get opposing hitters out over the last several starts, the pitcher's left elbow is going to be examined by doctors (just our team's or external, not quite clear yet) and he has already left the team, headed back to the Bay Area. If he does land on the DL, this will see him joining hurlers Dallas Braden, Brandon McCarthy and Tyson Ross just in the last two months (and we're not even counting Rich Harden) - another blow to the A's otherwise excellent staff.
Anderson's last outing, which lasted only five innings, and saw him give up five runs to the Red Sox, brought his season ERA to a not-so-shiny 4.00, and dropped his record to 3-6.
Source for today's bad news comes courtesy of the Contra Costa Times.
UPDATE: Susan Slusser reports that Rosales has been called up and is in tonight's lineup. De Los Santos and Kevin Kousmannoff have been "optioned out". Scott Sizemore has also been called up. (via Twitter)
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I've been sayin we should trade
some of our bullpen depth for more rotation depth. I’m surprised our all-seeing, all-knowing management didn’t do it. Now it’s likely to cost more, now that teams deem it a real need for us (if BA is indeed hurt).
Good news is, if Lenny DiNardo gets a start this year, I can officially start looking forward to football.
If you're into the UFL, maybe.
Not so sure the NFL is going to be playing on time.
by LoneStranger on Jun 6, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
how about the XFL
I guess it’s about time to check my stock holdings and see how much money I made. Vince would never let me down.
It's not just his last few starts, it's the whole season that his velocity has been off.
Fangraphs shows his average FB velocity as 92.6 in 2009 and 92.1 in 2010 and now 90.9 in 2011. But I think quite possibly more importantly, his average slider velocity has gone from 83.6 last year to 80.6 this year. That’s huge, 3 mph is a massive drop.
Digging a little deeper, you can see that he’s gone from 48.1% 4-seamers in 2009 to 25.8% last year, and finally to just 19% this year. His 2-seam use is up to 26.5% from just 6.4% in his rookie year.
Also very telling is that by looking at his velocity graphs, it looks like he lost a little bit on his fastball as soon as he came back from injury last year, and then a little bit more gradually since then. But the drop in velocity on his slider seems to mostly have occurred suddenly in between this year and last year.
I’ll be interested to find out what they discover.
"Life is a horizontal fall" -Jean Cocteau
by King Richard on Jun 6, 2011 11:23 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
You know what a rotation of Cahill Gio Outman Moscoso and Cramer screams to me? Phenominal starting pitching.
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 11:23 AM PDT reply actions
Good thing our tremendous offense will carry the load
Now there's nothing left to say, so let's go drink beer.
How is it lucky?
Before the season I said I expected both Braden and Anderson to miss significant parts of the year and the fifth starter spot to be some combination of bad/injured.
Its not called luck its called knowing what the fuck you are talking about.
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow
you Predicted Anderson and Braden would miss time this year???? YOU’RE AMAZING!!!! YOU REALLY DO know what (the fuck) you’re talking about! I mean, to predict that two guys with injury histories a mile long would miss playing time, well THAT is uncanny! Did you also foresee McCarthy missing time when you looked into your crystal ball? ASTOUNDING!
by oakballnack on Jun 6, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
STOP.
meta time.
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2 Meta 2 Quit
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STOP.
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can't. look. away.
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sorry
I was responding to the tone in:
Its not called luck its called knowing what the fuck you are talking about.
which I think was in pretty poor taste. No extra meta needed, indeed.
Because of a swear word?
Rabbit ears, jesus.
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Well if it was soooooo obvious how did so many people miss it?
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by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
are you kidding
I’m relatively certain it was talked about on NUMEROUS occasions: The health of our pitching staff is very frail. Didn’t you even write an entire thread about the subject, and I’m pretty sure I and a whole boat load of others agreed with you. It’s not like you were the first person to point out that we had some injury prone guys on our vaunted staff.
You always make sure everyone knows you do.
In any case, you’ve been wrong to date, but you may end up being right if Anderson is really hurt. The fifth starter spot has been fantastic, but you sure did get lucky on both of them getting hurt. Maybe if you’re really lucky, Outman and Moscoso will get hurt, too, and you can crow about how smart you are at the expense of the A’s doing well some more.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Im not crowing about the A's not doing well, Im crowing about you and Nico crowing just a week ago about how great our starters are and trying to make fun of me.
Im crowing about front page posts all winter with phrases like “Poised to Contend” and “stats people are short sighted.”
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
You didn't read the last sentence, or understand it.
You’re fond of doing that too, it helps ensure any rebuttal you make is always right.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Which sentence didn't I read?
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I wrote
you can crow about how smart you are
You wrote:
Im not crowing about the A’s not doing well
Those two things don’t match.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Yes they do when you add "at the expense of the A’s doing well" at the end of that.
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
No, they still don't.
You are still fundamentally crowing about how smart you are. It happens to be at the expense of the A’s doing well, and you don’t happen to care about that fact, but “crowing” refers to you letting everyone know how smart you are. Or is English language another one of those ideas that’s just over the heads of simple folk like us?
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
No the implication from your sentance is that one shouldn't if it hurts the A's.
Otherwise you wouldn’t have included that.
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
No, it isn't.
It’s that you get to pound your chest because a preposterous number of people—twice as many as you predicted—got hurt.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
If someone predicts that a player will hit .320
and another person predicts that the player will hit .280, but that player hits .300, who is right?
Google translate's Japanese for "English is over my head" :D
In the words of Rodney King, can’t we all just get along?
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And by the way
You’re still wrong until the A’s starting pitching actually begins to sustain suckiness, though this last week has certainly been a step in that direction.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
It was a good call, credit where credit is due.
"If anyone needs me, I'll be watching St Elmo's Fire since that is on and this was crap." -Kyli
by IChaseFrisbees on Jun 6, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Most teams cannot withstand 5 SP injuries.
Especially when those 5 were all being lights out this year. Why their names are all Rich Harden I don’t know.
If Anderson needs TJ (and with all the other problems with our team)...
I’d say we should shop anyone and everyone on our major league roster. That means Cahill and Gio are on the trading block for the highest bidder. We need a full rebuild and those 2 are the closest to fetching quality prospects (Suzuki might be able to nab something decent).
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Yes
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
ben saying this for a long long time
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Highest bidder, no
I’d listen to offers, but no deal unless you’re getting back a package at least on the level of Haren to AZ. Too many years of team control to just auction them off.
by Glorious Mundy on Jun 6, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I could live without Aaron Cunningham and Dana Eveland
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
And that's the least of their problems
by Glorious Mundy on Jun 6, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Cross them off then
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Jun 6, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, for sure.
“Highest bidder” was the wrong phrase to use.
The good thing is that we don’t need to trade them, so the A’s wouldn’t lose any leverage in trade negotiations just cus Anderson is out for what could be an extended period. They’re cost controlled (Gio to an extent) so it’s not like we need to dump their contracts or anything out of financial necessity.
It’s more of a thing of “Hey, we’re out of contention and probably not contending any time soon. Trevor Cahill and Gio Gonzales are great young, cost-controlled pitchers. You want one of ‘em? It’s gonna cost you, but we’re extremely serious about them being available and are willing to talk. Make us an initial offer and we’ll go from there”.
You know you are big-time when people chant your name while you pee. - 67MARQUEZ
by bakerbeachboy on Jun 6, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I want to see them go.
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Then there isn't much left worth watching....they're both so young and talented.
But seriously, folks....
I'd watch whomever they put out there
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm with you there, WC
I’ve lived through this before, and the A’s will come around again.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
I never said I was happy,
and didn’t want some changes. Only that I will continue to watch whomever the A’s trot out to the game.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
I'm 30 years in so I'm not going anywhere either.
but if I ran the team I’d probably make some changes to the front office….go find a young, hungy guy with new ideas to be the GM.
But seriously, folks....
This may be needed to turn this ship around for the long run.
I doubt Wolfe/Fisher will do it though.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
I'm just guessing here but I'd be surprised if we don't have new owners within the next 3 years
as far as Beane goes he’s had a nice run but he’s been there a long time and I think the team needs a new voice.
But seriously, folks....
There the onlything of value.
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Zooks has value, too.
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agreed
Cahill could still fetch a very nice haul. If we let him get blown up by anymore teams with good offenses, though, that may not be the case. I guess I’d prefer if we kept Gonzalez. He seems to have the best combination of pure stuff, health, and long term signability at this point.
I'd say get things moving on the stadium front
then blow the team up so that we might look like we did at the start of this year (with strong young players and having made a few offseason moves) to start the first season at the new place.
"If anyone needs me, I'll be watching St Elmo's Fire since that is on and this was crap." -Kyli
by IChaseFrisbees on Jun 6, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
If blowing the team up is the right move, I mean.
I don’t see the point blowing the team up without the stadium sorted out, I really think it might be haunted or cursed.
"If anyone needs me, I'll be watching St Elmo's Fire since that is on and this was crap." -Kyli
by IChaseFrisbees on Jun 6, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah,
I’d like for Billy Beane to trade our young proven talent for even more underachieving and unproven prospects.. that’s what this team needs.. not!
by sf drift king on Jun 6, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Apropos of nothing, I hope they turn Fautino back into a starter
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
Yes.
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, he's not Greg Maddux
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I hope he's better than that
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Bailey too!
But I’d take one of the two.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
If there's any time to do it, it's now.
Since we’re looking at a rotation of Cahill, Gio, and three pieces of filler.
If he's a talented kid he sure has more value as a starter over a relief guy.
and it looks like we need more starters. McCarthy is probably a one year guy and Ross is unknown so the more the merrier.
But seriously, folks....
how long would it take to stretch him out
does he even have a workable 3rd pitch in his repertoire at this point? I mean, it’s more than just stamina we’re talking about – I think he’d be a ways away as a starter. Part of the reason for moving him to the pen, besides the injury, was that he could progress faster, right?
I don't think his controll would really make it worth it
plus, he probably wouldn’t be able to sustain the explosive velocity as a starter, and from all reports, his change up was never anything but mediocre. I’d keep him in the bullpen – I’d worry about getting into his head trying to change him from role to role too much – alla Joba Chamberlain
I can agree with this.
Promoting AJ Griffin more quickly than usual is something I would to sign off on too.
Let's hope everything is fine structurally
And just give him a month off anyways, to protect him long-term. This team isn’t going anywhere anyways.
Hope we don’t lose him for the season though, that will just be one more excuse for Beane to make in protection of Geren.
This News....
Should ensure Bob Geren receives a 3-year extension very, very soon. Bob just hasn’t had a healthy 25-Man roster to work with. It’s not his fault.
Good news is we are only 4 games out from the #1 pick in next years draft so if we sell now and suck for the rest of the year, maybe we can get a superstar.
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 11:37 AM PDT reply actions
I wonder if the A’s know that there is even a draft today?
by Slide Giambi on Jun 6, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
this year
would’ve been a much better year to have that top five pick…or two top tens #jealousofthed’backs
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yes and no.
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Pretty hard to be yes and yes
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Jun 6, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I get mean and cranky when I'm stoned and flag people and complain about fanposts.
But seriously, folks....
Sadly I was stone cold sober yesterday...I get mean and cranky then as well.
But seriously, folks....
I would have had his arm examined months ago as a precaution
It is mind boggling that they did not do this after his last start.
Turn a blind eye, everything will work out.
Well yeah it's not like there wasn't anyone here saying "Gee I wonder if Brett is hurt."
Still waiting for the minds on this site to take over the team.
I'm here to talk about the past.
So, if he is actually going to need TJ surgery, here's hoping they get it done now
It would be nice to get him back and throwing hard again in time to get some value out of the contract.
That's my birthday weekend
I’ll consider this season a success so long as they win on June 18th
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Jun 6, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Everytime I come on AN lately there's bad news on the front page
someone post some good news even if it’s made up.
But seriously, folks....
Choice and Carter are walking more than striking ou,t and Taylor is hitting a lot of doubles and homers. Cardenas is playing third like a gold glover
by Slide Giambi on Jun 6, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Halo 4 was announced
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Jun 6, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn't you hear?
Kouz got sent down…that counts as good news, right?
WordUpThome: GWEN STEPHANIE IS CONFUSING AND MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE
Kouz
got demoted and Adam Rosales is healthy.
by sf drift king on Jun 6, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Some notes about PitchFX.
First off, it’s calling some slower fastballs as changeups, so the actual velocity of his fastball is a bit lower than indicated. It didn’t do that in 2010:
The y-axis is velocity, so look at the yellow dots that are folded into the green/blue blobs. Those graphs also give a sense of how far down his velocity is.
Secondly, it’s calling some of the more downwards-breaking sliders as curveballs, so we need to take a weighted average of the two to find his breaking pitch’s true velocity. Unfortunately, the results aren’t very encouraging.
2009: 82.6
2010: 82.3
2011: 79.6
And while I'm here, might as well look at its movement.
Lateral
2009: -1.6
2010: -1.3
2011: -2.8
Vertical
2009: -5.3
2010: -5.8
2011: -7.0
Some of that increase in movement is because of the velocity (more time to break at same rpm = more break), but it could also explain his control issues. It’s breaking further down and to the right than he’s used to, and that could be causing him to miss bats.
Is that the slider?
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep.
It’s his slider/curve. I don’t know if it’s one grip or two, but they both break the same at the same velocity.
I can see how that site could be addictive.
He sure throws the slider a lot more than he did in 2009.
But seriously, folks....
It's not really him, just the classification.
Before the system figured him out, it was calling his slider a curveball most of the time, because it breaks so much. So he actually threw it 39% in 2009.
Yeah, I figured he was actually supposed to miss the bats.
Of course, with Geren at the helm…
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Well at least I hear Rich Harden is close to being ready to go...on the 60 Day DL.
But seriously, folks....
He already lives there
Is there a more long term DL he can go on? 60 months maybe?
by Glorious Mundy on Jun 6, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm sure glad we got out of that other thread of worthless negativity and replaced it with.....
…..uh………huh. I see. Carry on, then.
Doctors will also be doing a comparative analysis of Bob Geren's elbow
and his ass, to see whether there is a discernible difference.
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by Englishmajor on Jun 6, 2011 12:07 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Should I cry now or later
If you'll excuse me, all of you, I'm going to go tearily spill my heart out to my only friend, the water heater. --danmerqury
Why not both?
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Good point
If you'll excuse me, all of you, I'm going to go tearily spill my heart out to my only friend, the water heater. --danmerqury
I'm so sad I can't even find the question mark
If you'll excuse me, all of you, I'm going to go tearily spill my heart out to my only friend, the water heater. --danmerqury
hint: turn the keyboard upside down. it’s the one that looks like a tear.
really don't care if i ever come back.
by AV on Jun 6, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
They are stored in the A's roster.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Heh.
It was all about Breakfast Baseball
If you'll excuse me, all of you, I'm going to go tearily spill my heart out to my only friend, the water heater. --danmerqury
I have that at Denny's when I have the grand slam breakfast...just kidding I never eat at Denny's.
But seriously, folks....
but they make smiley face pancakes!
If you'll excuse me, all of you, I'm going to go tearily spill my heart out to my only friend, the water heater. --danmerqury
Why cry?
Daric will be home soon
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Can Daric pitch?
I didn’t think so. [sob]
If you'll excuse me, all of you, I'm going to go tearily spill my heart out to my only friend, the water heater. --danmerqury
We are talking baseball and ONLY baseball here
If you'll excuse me, all of you, I'm going to go tearily spill my heart out to my only friend, the water heater. --danmerqury
We all get lost around AN sometimes
If you'll excuse me, all of you, I'm going to go tearily spill my heart out to my only friend, the water heater. --danmerqury
Or, we are told to get lost...
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
I'm still here.
[ to the dismay of some]
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
complete with high cholesterol!
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Just don't forget the bacon on the side
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
I had a poached egg in an avocado, topped with Hollandaise sauce, with 3 slices of bacon this morning.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Well, then I made the kids help me cut and stack a cord of firewood.
That helped work it all off
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
I have a fire place now so I'll need to get some wood
won’t need it until December or so.
But seriously, folks....
It may be an old wives tale,
but i was told that wood cut and split in the spring contained more BTUs in it, do to the growing time.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
I remember each spring when I was a kid we'd go chop down trees in late spring for fire wood.
it was hard work but fun.
But seriously, folks....
Yep.
This is when my dad and I would work, play catch, and discuss baseball.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
So, of course, nothing else crossed your mind.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Of course
If you'll excuse me, all of you, I'm going to go tearily spill my heart out to my only friend, the water heater. --danmerqury
Truth.
If you'll excuse me, all of you, I'm going to go tearily spill my heart out to my only friend, the water heater. --danmerqury
I would never take a Dare from the AN crowd
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REPLY
If you'll excuse me, all of you, I'm going to go tearily spill my heart out to my only friend, the water heater. --danmerqury
how bout
“Gio and Cahill and pray for next April”
"The Few, The Proud, The A's Fan" - UncleLeo
I saw this on sfgate. It's OK if it was you there also, if not it should be given proper credit
"Feel so bad, feel like a ballgame on a rainy day"-Lightnin' Hopkins
by justANotherAsFan on Jun 6, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Same username,
so it’s probably the same person.
You're remarkable in a funny way. Or funny in a remarkable way.
you get extra boobies for that one
hey little girl
…want a cookie?
by ChickenStanley on Jun 6, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Not convinced he's hurt yet.
Unless I missed something, his pitchFX data for the last two starts isn’t much different. Could just be he got a bad case of the Yankees and Red Sox.
He probably is, though.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Brett Anderson's arm is still Homer Simpson's pig to me, thankyouverymuch.
Homer: It’s just a little dirty! It’s still good, it’s still good!
[the cart falls off the edge of a drainage culvert, and the pig floats down the stream]
Homer: It’s just a little slimy! It’s still good, it’s still good!
[the pig reaches a dam at the end of the stream and plugs the drain hole. The water pressure builds up behind it, until it launches out of the hole into the air]
Homer: It’s just a little airborne! It’s still good, it’s still good!
Bart: It’s gone.
Homer: I know.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Hope he doesn't need surgey
I am speechless at this point about the A’s medical staffs. Why can’t they be more proactive espeically on one of our prized pitchers. Is it too much to ask to have a season where no one is on the DL for a extended period?
by sfniners4life on Jun 6, 2011 1:00 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Maybe they are being proactive now. Maybe he's not in great pain and they're concerned about the velocity drop
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe if he takes a couple days off and moves to the 6th spot in the batting order he'll hit better.
But seriously, folks....
We can't have everybody batting 6th
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
The recovery is 12 months right?
We get him surgery now, he’s ready by the all-star break next season, the perfect midway pick me up. Then we have healthy Braden and McCarthy (maybe, why not throw it out there,) Cahill Gonzalez, plus hopefully Weeks, Taylor and Carter (if they’re hitting) up in the big leagues. Maybe we even will have sorted out third base in the offseason by dealing Bailey or something.
And best of all we’re rid of Geren. I think calling this a lost season and getting Anderson the surgery ASAP if he needs it bodes well for next year.
"If anyone needs me, I'll be watching St Elmo's Fire since that is on and this was crap." -Kyli
by IChaseFrisbees on Jun 6, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Oy...
Maybe blowing the team up is the right move.
"If anyone needs me, I'll be watching St Elmo's Fire since that is on and this was crap." -Kyli
by IChaseFrisbees on Jun 6, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Huh
That’s very surprising (both that he was optioned and that he had an option left)
Get out the time-fracture wickets, Hobbes! We're gonna play Calvinball!
Might as well hold on to him if we can.
He’s not worthless. And looks like he hasn’t been in the minors since he was called up in ’06. Huh.
Aside from his play, I like the guy.
Seems like he’s genuinely a nice dude, from the interviews and stuff.
Or motivating. It's up to him.
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by padmadfan on Jun 6, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, it would have been silly just to straight cut him.
Well, maybe some time in AAA will do him some good.
Get out the time-fracture wickets, Hobbes! We're gonna play Calvinball!
He was hitting a bit better since he came back from injury
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Not well enough though, I guess
Get out the time-fracture wickets, Hobbes! We're gonna play Calvinball!
I looked at that yesterday in the rant-thread discussion.
It did look like he had one left. He was moved up quickly. In 2004 he was in the low minors so wouldn’t be on the 40-man. In 2005 he was in the upper minors and so probably that was an option year. 2006 was split between AAA and the bigs, so definitely an option year. After that he stayed in the majors and looks like he never went down.
So probably two option years which leaves one remaining.
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#Athletics reinstate Rosales from DL, recall Sizemore from Sacramento, option Kouzmanoff and De Los Santos to Sacramento.
I hope so.
Starters are clearly needed at this point
Get out the time-fracture wickets, Hobbes! We're gonna play Calvinball!
I hope they do it the other way around personally
Get out the time-fracture wickets, Hobbes! We're gonna play Calvinball!
Updates posted to the main story.
Susan Slusser reports that Rosales has been called up and is in tonight’s lineup. De Los Santos and Kevin Kousmannoff has been “optioned out”. Scott Sizemore has also been called up.
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And a 6 million dollar 3rd baseman in Sac-town.
I would have to think a trade with the DBacks has to be in works. I believe GM Towers loves Kouz and the Snakes need a 3rd baseman.
Jim McLennan is right!
I find it very hard to believe they didn't shop Kouz around really hard before optioning him
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Roberts is having a great year.
Dbacks could DFA Mora and keep Kouz on the bench. I’m just trying to find Kouz a home!
Jim McLennan is right!
If he can't make the A's what other team would want him?
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
SF, until the fat panda comes back.
Houston, maybe. Minute Maid park could actually be a good thing for Kouz.
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Why would they want to pay him $5M or whatever to be replacement level?
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
SF? Because they're currently running out the worst hitter in baseball at 3B.
and as bad as Kouz has been, he’s actually a significant upgrade over Tejada.
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I thought Tejada was a good signing for them this offseason considering their options. Im surprised hes been this bad.
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by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't think he would be anything special
I didn’t expect him to be one of the worst hitters in the league.
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Right, I mean they were kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place... but I thought hed be league averagish
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by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean I knew he was just a singles hitter at this point
but he is just awful now.
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Looks like Sandoval might be back fairly soon.
I think he’s playing in Fresno now.
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I know.
I just really wanted Kouz to succeed. I see that Sizemore isn’t half bad though..
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That would probably be an upgrade
:(
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Why would anyone like Sizemore?
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
OK but doesn't he project as a 1-2 WAR player? It's not like we don't have enough of those
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Might as well roll the dice.
Could be 1-2 WAR, could be more. But we know what we have with Kouz/LaRoche.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that while Kouz and Sizemore's projections may be the same,
The standard deviations of those projections are vastly different.
They are?
Sizemore has upside?
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
You can't? Not even for a couple of months?
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
What if you OPS .881 in 807 plate appearances?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 6, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
That doesn't sound all that great
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
You can if you're Matt Carson.
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Matt Carson is the Pujols of AAA
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Yes.
Just don’t tell anyone because then he can’t be a prospect anymore
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He's only played 65 games in the majors and his Triple-A numbers rock.
As a result, I’d say he has upside.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 6, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh I've no problem with giving him a shot. I just don't expect much.
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I expect that when he walks down the street people will say there goes the greatest hitter of all time.
But seriously, folks....
Will he be wearing Ted Williams's head?
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Sizemore matters not.
Look at me. Judge me by my Sizemore, do you?
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hopefully
he’s Jack Hannahan with a bat.
by sf drift king on Jun 6, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Barton moved back
Crisp CF, Barton 1B, Jackson LF, Willingham DH, Suzuki C, Ellis 2B, Rosales 3B, Sweeney RF, Pennington SS, Gonzalez P
This can't be very far away
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Depends
It depends if the A’s are profiting w/ Matsui on the A’s. I gotta think the A’s would be a little bit concerned about DFA’ing Matsui. Japanese backlash.
OOO, the Japanese are mad at us, Smithers!
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by bluthbanana20 on Jun 6, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
hah
Simpsons + Arrested name = You are awesome
What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.
Especially with the Iwakuma fiasco from earlier in the year.
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by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
He'd have to retire to get taken off this team
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That's not necessarily true.
All I need is two people to act as a grab team, three ski masks, a stolen van, a roll of duct tape, and a choice selection of pornography.
Who’s with me?
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by OldhamA on Jun 6, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
if that were the case
why just not play him full time and let him play himself out of the “slump”.
by sf drift king on Jun 6, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
How about we pick up the difference in salary
and send him to the Yomiuri Giants for nothing?
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Why bat Sweeney 8th behind Ellis and a guy just returning from a long injury?
I do like seeing Barton back in the 2 spot though.
Get out the time-fracture wickets, Hobbes! We're gonna play Calvinball!
Ah right, forgot about that.
That makes more sense then. I wonder why Sweeney is getting the start against a lefty tonight.
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I don't
The guy for whatever reason struggled as the #2 hitter, so you leave him #6, Sweeney, on the other hand, has a higher OBP and has done well there.
He was totally fine as the #2 hitter last year.
I’m not buying the fact that he gets worse just by being at #2. And as far as Sweeney, it’s a LHP starter today.
Maybe it's psychological
That’s happened before, with other players.
Yes!
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Sweeney has barely played against lefties
and Barton has a .775 OPS this year against LHP.
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I mean.. he's (Sweeney) only had 8 at bats against lefties
and Barton has hit lefties better than righties his entire career.
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Oh WE WILL SEE, WON'T WE
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Bad weather, bad news, bad tempers all around
Two interviews scheduled today. The first, the author didn’t show because my confirmation e-mail went into internet hell. Second interview, the radio station computer crashed and the whole thing has to be done again.
Bad day, bad weather, bad news, bad tempers.
I had sushi for lunch.
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it's surprisingly not.
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Geren forgot.
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by justANotherAsFan on Jun 6, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Swingles is doing fine off the bench and all
but this is PRECISELY THE REASON why you traded for him. Bleargh.
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wow, I wake up and things are already worse than when I fell asleep.
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no, of course not
Breaking news and all. Or Broken elbow news.
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by emperor nobody on Jun 6, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
The A's need to start Scott Sizemore at third base every day.
Let’s see what he has. I’d rather have him play third base instead of Conor Jackson and Adam Rosales because Sizemore is a legitimate long-term option there.
In 807 career Triple-A PA, Sizemore has hit .313/.396/.485 so let’s just give him a chance to see what happens. It couldn’t hurt, right?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 6, 2011 1:50 PM PDT reply actions
Willingham is batting cleanup
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Bringing up Scott Sizemore to be a backup doesn't make sense to me.
I know he’s already had over 800 career plate appearances in Triple-A, but I’d rather have him play every day there as opposed to being a reserve in Oakland to some guy(s) without a long-term chance to stick.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 6, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Why not? We're not talking Alex Rodriguez here
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
i mean bringing him to backup makes sense to me.
the same way they brought up steve tolleson or whatever.
by Billy Frijoles on Jun 6, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
They better
If the A’s called up Sizemore to sit on the bench for games at a time…..
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Did Sizemore make a complete recovery?
On October 23, 2009, Sizemore broke his left leg during a collision while playing in the Arizona Fall League. On October 27, 2009, Sizemore had surgery on his fractured left ankle including screws being place to stabilize his ankle joint. He was able to return to action in time for Spring Training in 2010.
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After reading Jane Lee's Blog
I am willing to bet that Anderson will require TJ surgery
Not at all
Beane will fire the medical staff again for the 800th time and start afresh.
Gotta love how players pitch hurt and keep doing it while all involved turn the a blind eye which is not hard to do as they are all blind to start with.
Gotta love the incompetence of this management, year after year.
I am resigned to just laughing at it all.
How are the A's to know he is hurt, if he doesn't say he is? For all we know, they asked Brett if he was
hurt, and that his velocity was down. He could have said, I am trying to take something off my pitches, which many pitchers do. After a few years they intentionally drop a couple miles for more movement. It isn’t like it went to Zito levels. Danbot and others may know more, but it seems like a very reasonable deviation without injury
by theblackpearl on Jun 6, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Easy
I called it a few weeks ago.
He’s been throwing garbage at decreased velocity. He’s too good of a pitcher to be that bad.
It's really not that easy.
If you DLed every pitcher whose velocity was down over the course of 10 starts, you’d have a lot of unnecessary DLs. Dead arms and such. Doesn’t mean they’re hurt. And it doesn’t even mean they’re ineffective.
Most here say every pitcher is hurt when they have a bad game, wasn't it you who also said Cahill must
be hurt too? Someone did, because he had a couple of bad starts.
by theblackpearl on Jun 6, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Not me about Cahill
Nope.
I mentioned yesterday it could also be a dead arm.
He has a history of arm trouble and it’s not surprising. Precautionary evaluation certainly would not have hurt in this case.
If the pitcher in question would admit there is a degree of discomfort then that would allow them to check it earlier but it seems that not many players want to reveal their problems until it’s too late. This is where you need staff to be more observational. Ours apparently have a problem in that area if the last three or four years are anything to go by.
So A's send down player tied for 3th most Home Runs on team
Sure, it’s 4 hr, tied with Zooks.
And DeJesus has one more, which is more surprising.
Yes!
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, fans were asking for a shake-up.
Now we got it.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
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Just wait till tomorrow when Suzuki is traded.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Matt Murton FTW
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Does this mean Beane cares?
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
He's fiery now!
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Step aside David Forst.
The handsomest GM in baseball is back!
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by iglew on Jun 6, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I had a class this quarter that was taught jointly by two professors.
One looked like Billy Beane 10 years ago, and the other looked like David DeJesus in 5 years. It was weird.
No.
He put it on mute.
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he didn’t turn it off. just happens to be offseason in many soccer leagues. he might just be looking for a distraction in the meanwhile. like an ANer in january. but with a real roster to ’bate with.
really don't care if i ever come back.
by AV on Jun 6, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
its a start
I would have preferred to see Sizemore at third and Rosales at 2nd today, but whatever. As for FDLS, I guess it makes sense to go stretch him out due to the circumstances, but i think his ultimate role is setup man so I’d prefer we trade Breslow for a SP or just bargain bin it.
Why would you want to take the best defensive player out of the lineup when the team's defense is horrible?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 6, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Change for its own sake man!
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
If Fautino's ultimate role is that of setup man I'd prefer to trade him to a team that thinks he's a starter
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
easier said than done.
And why wouldn’t you want a joel zumaya type setup man, with TJ already behind him?
Because he'd have more value in trade than as a setup man
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with that
I just don’t know why we’d be trading one of our youngsters in this situation. Although I guess “youngsters” is a relative term on this team.
Because Joel Zumaya wasn't any good?
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by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
there were those glimmers
when he wasn’t dying or playing Guitar Hero, where his innings were pretty dominant.
He had good years compared to other setup men, but yeah, he wasn't all that valuable
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
are any relievers all that valuable
from a WAR standpoint, they just don’t pitch enough innings to have significant numbers
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Poor SOB never saw it coming
Kouzmanoff: “I’m surprised. Shocked. I didn’t see that coming.” #Athletics
Even iglew saw it coming
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
He gets a [chriscartersadface]
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I'm sad :(
I knew something was going to happen, but I’m still sad :(
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You. Me. Atti.
Out back with some 40s and sad music. 30 minutes. See you then.
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I have lots of the 40s music
hey little girl
…want a cookie?
by ChickenStanley on Jun 6, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
The last good decade for pop music.
I blame electric guitars.
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And Elvis, (that devil's spawn)
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lectric geetars
helps make 50s music sound good
hey little girl
…want a cookie?
by ChickenStanley on Jun 6, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about with players who are too secure and have no fire in them.
Thank you Kouzmanoff, now never play on my team again. Ellis is next.
well the timing is a little odd
I mean the guy has been hitting .320 with a .370 OBP over the past couple of weeks…albeit in limited playing time.
I want to visit him at a Rivercats game
He was good enough last year, and it’s a shame that he ended up in the pool of disappointing players this season (so far).
Better thing to do would’ve been to take care of the Matsui situation.
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by bluthbanana20 on Jun 6, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I want to go to a Cats game now too
And give him a hug
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Boost his spirits
say he’ll be the next Cliff Lee or
Yes, I know Cliff Lee is a pitcher. This is about morale boosting and, honestly, procrastinating at work.
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by bluthbanana20 on Jun 6, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
in all fairness
The pool of disappointing players this season is an Olympic sized one.
WordUpThome: GWEN STEPHANIE IS CONFUSING AND MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE
Do you really think he is the worst of our offensive problems?
I don’t. I would have expected Ellis to go first, if BB was looking at performance. When you look at the fact that BB gets to keep Kouz( in case he does come around), it makes total sense.
i've never tried to rank them to be honest. i guess i like beer.- stm72
Beane loves Ellis and his defence.
Kouzmanoff is expendable.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
And Ellis can't be optioned.
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First they have to sign Rafael Furcal and have him go on the DL
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Jemile Weeks has only played 44 games in Triple-A, though.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 6, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, well, Dee Gordon was ranked 26th by Baseball America entering this season.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 6, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh well then. Baseball America Rankings > Production.
Every time.
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That's my lucky number!
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow hes going to hit like 150/200/175.
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by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes he seems more like an Athletic than a Dodger
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by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Charlie Blackmon is the shit. I saw him rake in the AFL
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by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah its fun when your young talented player (Fowler)
gets hurt, you have two other young talented players to replace him (Blackmon, EY jr)
EY jr is very bleh
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by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
wow i cant believe that
still pretty raw isnt he?
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I sometimes dream about if I had a spare half billion
I would buy the A’s and allow half a dozen of AN’s brightest to run the team. $250,000,000 would be used to increase payroll over 5 years.
I would not have Billy Beane anywhere near to team. He would be long gone.
Probably Dan, MikeV, Iglew, a few Englishmen, Nico, Nico’s Goat, Miss Oakland, Coach Cleats, DFA to argue with some of you along with PL78 or whatever number he is.
If I had a spare half billion I'd buy some of John Fischer's art collection.
But seriously, folks....
I would ask him to give it to me
He has more money than he knows what to so with.
Then I would buy the team off him.
I KNEW someone would believe in my Hottie Over Replacement Player stat!
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Yes
You would keep the players in line with knuckle duster and whip in hand
Please pay attention
I use shinkicks. Effectively.
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Don't I know it!
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes. You do.
[shinkick]
If you'll excuse me, all of you, I'm going to go tearily spill my heart out to my only friend, the water heater. --danmerqury
Hey! I've been good recently.
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I just wanted to remind you
to keep yourself in line
If you'll excuse me, all of you, I'm going to go tearily spill my heart out to my only friend, the water heater. --danmerqury
I can barely walk now
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Well then you can sit in line
If you'll excuse me, all of you, I'm going to go tearily spill my heart out to my only friend, the water heater. --danmerqury
And shinkicks
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
wow I get left out
thanks Trainman, I was hoping for a Minister of Information post with the new Trainman A’s.
"If we start getting into that sh*t, we might as well get out the plastic sheeting and have an orgy." --Gaijin Suketto
by emperor nobody on Jun 6, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I might just make you the GM
I forgot EN. I am sorry
If I had half a billion I'd............bank if. Screw you guys.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
If this is Billy's 2011 version of the
big Jeremy Giambi → John Mabry shake up of aught two, then I’m deeply saddened. Mainly because I don’t see this move doing much of anything for the team.
Well, what do you want him to do?
"You're all like big, fat failure turtles." - Edge
by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 6, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Giambi-Mabry was day two.
On day one, Peña, Tam and Menechino were optioned to AAA.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
I vaguely remember him getting into
a big controversy in the Independent Leagues. He did something to get expelled, I think. or maybe I’m getting mixed up with someone else?
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Big arm tattoo. Scab during the strike.
Was good for a while, then wasn’t.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
It's actually Chauncey
but whatever
If you'll excuse me, all of you, I'm going to go tearily spill my heart out to my only friend, the water heater. --danmerqury
The mustache changed her.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
It's all dan's fault!
If you'll excuse me, all of you, I'm going to go tearily spill my heart out to my only friend, the water heater. --danmerqury
I remember Jeff Tam's strikeout of Jeter in the 2001 (?) playoffs
in old Yankee Stadium…twas glorious
Ooh...so we're going to trade Willingham for Ben Francisco tomorrow?
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
And on day three, Billy watched soccer
And he saw that it was good.
by Glorious Mundy on Jun 6, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
This is the start
This is all I wanted. Something, that makes it look like we’re gonna try.
by Billy Frijoles on Jun 6, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
do you not make more moves today
so you don’t leave the Rivercats roster in dissaray, or is this it for now? Because why keep Matsui if he is not gonna play, and has no positional versatility?
oh so its like that scene in Lost in Translation
where Billy Murray asks like two word questions, and its translation takes like an hour?
DFA usually has a lot to say
translating that naturally would take some time
"Whether they find life there or not, I think Jupiter should be called an enemy planet." - Jack Handey
by bluthbanana20 on Jun 6, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
well played
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Jun 6, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I doubt they'll keep him very long
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
NO.
ROSALES WILL SAVE US ALL
If you'll excuse me, all of you, I'm going to go tearily spill my heart out to my only friend, the water heater. --danmerqury
Because he has a GRITTY heart and he runs hard when he grounds out to second base.
But seriously, folks....
and thats all that matters
hey little girl
…want a cookie?
by ChickenStanley on Jun 6, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
it should
hey little girl
…want a cookie?
by ChickenStanley on Jun 6, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
If you're going to be crap, at least look like you're going all out to be crap.
Rather than looking like you’d rather be elsewhere.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
you know I will
quick and painless. you’d do the same for me
hey little girl
…want a cookie?
by ChickenStanley on Jun 6, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
no, I'm living on
but I’ll make sure you have a respectful death
hey little girl
…want a cookie?
by ChickenStanley on Jun 6, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, I've reserved your death!
No backoutsies!
Get out the time-fracture wickets, Hobbes! We're gonna play Calvinball!
screw you zombie
soon as I see you, I’m sending you back to hell where you belong
hey little girl
…want a cookie?
by ChickenStanley on Jun 6, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Only if you escort me!
And fair warning, I like to be charmed and pampered.
Get out the time-fracture wickets, Hobbes! We're gonna play Calvinball!
Those are great too.
You can never have too many.
Get out the time-fracture wickets, Hobbes! We're gonna play Calvinball!
come here tomorrow
Porky’s Pizza Palace San Leandro,Ca
1221 Manor Blvd
San Leandro, CA
we will “talk” about the arrangements
hey little girl
…want a cookie?
by ChickenStanley on Jun 6, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks legit to me.
Nothing could possibly go wrong!
Get out the time-fracture wickets, Hobbes! We're gonna play Calvinball!
and there will be lots of other ANers there too
to protect you
hey little girl
…want a cookie?
by ChickenStanley on Jun 6, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Well color me intrigued.
Is this a real thing?
Get out the time-fracture wickets, Hobbes! We're gonna play Calvinball!
yes it is
https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=108098842615358
hey little girl
…want a cookie?
by ChickenStanley on Jun 6, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
moar pizza!
hey little girl
…want a cookie?
by ChickenStanley on Jun 6, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
They may be little, but
they don’t feel little when you’re passing them.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
gotta be moar gritty then!
hey little girl
…want a cookie?
by ChickenStanley on Jun 6, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Susan Slusser says that Guillermo Moscoso is pitching tomorrow night.
"You're all like big, fat failure turtles." - Edge
by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 6, 2011 2:21 PM PDT reply actions
He's got true grit
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 6, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
But how does she pronounce his first name? That's the question.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
I don't even know anymore.
"You're all like big, fat failure turtles." - Edge
by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 6, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
When Anderson goes on the DL he'll be third.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
depends on the woman
hey little girl
…want a cookie?
by ChickenStanley on Jun 6, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
no it's what you do with it that matters....yep...uh huh....I keep telling that to myself.
But seriously, folks....
Well I know this change should make me happy
but I am just gonna go ahead and divert all power to the deflector shields. You know, just in case.
This is why we can't have nice things. Also: season over, see you kids next year.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
You guys interested in James Darnell and Kyle Blanks?
We’re gonna call up Rizzo in the next month so we could use Josh Willingham. Both Darnell and Blanks are extra pieces that can be traded. It seems like too much for a rental like Willingham though. Maybe you throw in FDLS. Or maybe Darnell for Willingham straight up. I don’t know. We can work something out.
James Darnell .364/.462/.657 in AA San Antonio
Kyle Blanks 283/.355/.480 in AA rehab assignment recovering from Tommy John.
"Never have a motto, that's what I always say" - Me
http://marcel-oehler.marcellosendos.ch/comics/ch/1986/05/19860506.gif
"I Hate SF" - The Chosen One.
You can not have Willingham.
We need SOMEONE to hit homeruns.
If you'll excuse me, all of you, I'm going to go tearily spill my heart out to my only friend, the water heater. --danmerqury
Nah we don't. If Anderson is out for the season we might as well trade everyone.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
I know it's crazy
but I’m not ready to give up that easily.
If you'll excuse me, all of you, I'm going to go tearily spill my heart out to my only friend, the water heater. --danmerqury
It's time to blood the kids (though it has been for a while). This season is tooooooooast.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Well hopefully Darnell and Blanks will hit lots of those for many years. You just have to take the chance they will and develop them.
"Never have a motto, that's what I always say" - Me
http://marcel-oehler.marcellosendos.ch/comics/ch/1986/05/19860506.gif
"I Hate SF" - The Chosen One.
I would love Darnell
And Decker
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
I like it. Appropriate.
Fire Bob Geren.
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 6, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
mòran taing
hey little girl
…want a cookie?
by ChickenStanley on Jun 6, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Kouz down?
Rosey the third baseman? yikes
thought Kouz was turning it around, as much as possible anyway. Don’t see Rosales being a whole lot better. Am I wrong?
I don't know if Rosales would be.
Hopefully Sizemore can be though. At least, it’s something worth watching to find out.
Get out the time-fracture wickets, Hobbes! We're gonna play Calvinball!
CT saying Sizemore to be the utility IF
but I suppose if either he or Rosales gets hot, the job is theirs. still not a huge fan of the move
Do the A's ever learn????
The Athletics have confirmed that Jason Bergmann signed a minor league deal with the club on June 1st. The right-hander has been placed on the Double-A Midland roster. The 29-year-old signed a minor league deal with the Red Sox in December but was cut loose in March due to a shoulder injury.
Learn what?
The A’s are about to be on their 9th starter, when Anderson hits the DL. Bergmann is literally nothing more than minor league roster filler.
He already has a shoulder injury before he signed, he will just be minor league DL filler.
by theblackpearl on Jun 6, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Not if he stays healthy.
What’s the risk? If he gets injured again, oh no, our AA affiliate is out another pitcher! The guy has potential and won’t be taking up a 40 man spot. I don’t see anything wrong with this.
This is exactly what they do.
Sign a 29-year-old AAAA superstar to rack up yet another PCL title.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Nothing.
The problem is having an AAA team composed entirely of AAA filler.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Even if the MLB club has all the young stars called up?
by LoneStranger on Jun 7, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
That would be a lot better.
If the young stars were actually stars.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Saw this coming
time to blow it all up
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
well, everyone with trade value except for them
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
I bet we can get something nice from the Red Sox for Suzuki
Nats are looking for a CF’er and lead-off hitter.
"The past is obviously behind us" -- B. Geren
He is really minimizing Anderson’s condition….“he just flew back to check in with our doctors….we might need someone else to start on Friday if Brett’s not ready to go…”
Help the A's help Japan. www.oaklandathletics.com/japan
that bobo
he is a bright one!
hey little girl
…want a cookie?
by ChickenStanley on Jun 6, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I would rather our manager not engage in rampant injury speculation in the press.
I’d rather have the same boring Bobo in this case…but not in most cases.
by Billy Frijoles on Jun 6, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
New draft thread.
It’s a front page post, but it’s already beneath the game thread.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Oops, I meant to post that on the old draft thread.
Nevermind.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
I just finished re-watching Twin Peaks and an eerily approproate quote comes to mind..."It is happening again."
I want to cry. I don’t know what we are going to do now. Just 2 weeks ago I was hoping for a quick re-load…
I’m starting to think about next year’s rotation being…
Cahill, Gio, Braden, Ross, McCarthy, (Outman) – and if by the season’s end this still looks viable, Anderson could become the kind of trade bait that could land us just about anyone. (Zimmerman please?) Also it would eliminate the risk of Harden 2.0, getting rid of our highest injury risk. If not Zimmerman, imagine who we could go after dangling a cost-controlled BA.
This was the only way I could see us retaining a playoff-caliber rotation, but still adding some key prospects to our system. WASH just drafted Rendon, maybe we can get him, I don’t know. Someone with some knowledge of trade value please put up some trade scenarios. Maybe we should trade Cahill and Gio and hope for the #1 pick next year. This sucks.
va-ma-NOS! at-LET-i-COS!
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