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Cahill's Throws a Gem, Hamels not so much

An excellent game is how I can describe it. Back in their Home town, the A's came to life tonight. Yes, there were many squandered opportunities, but the offense did indeed try to do their best, and eventually broke through to win the game 4-1. Things almost went awry in the 8th, however, as Cahill went an inning too far. More on that later. What is good is that the A's won a game against a strong opponent, a strong pitcher, strong defense and with the help of some strong prospects. Good Game.

The Phillies struck first, and this was shockingly one of the few games I watched where I did not feel that going down 1-0 was a death nail to the team. Hamels' control was shaky, and the lineup somehow showed signs of life. The Phillies got men on 1st and 2nd with 2 outs, and a single knocked in the game's first run, and left the Phils in a 1st and 3rd situation, which was almost a disaster for the A's until Hideki Matsui made a great running catch in left field, and we went to the top of the 3rd, and Rosales, not wanting to leave us trailing, hit a running Solo HR shot to tie it up 1-1.

The Phil's were doomed after that, especially after a great tumbling catch to rob Chase Utley of extra bases by Conor Jackson and end the inning "On the Artificial Warning Track" (according to Fosse).

In the top of the 4th, the A's got on the board again. After Mark Ellis reached on a HBP, and was subsequently caught "Stealing" on a failed hit and run attempt, in which Coco Crisp swung very pointedly at Ball 4, Crisp walked to bring up Matsui. Matsui singled, with Crisp running on the play, but not heads up, as Crisp slid into 2nd instead of taking advantage of the play and running to third. Never matter, the next batter, Conor Jackson, hit a fly ball to Center and Crisp, faking going to 3rd then stopping, caught Victorino off guard, who stopped flat footed and threw the ball into the infield, whereupon Crisp hightailed it to 3rd base, scoring on Scott Sizemore's single in the next at bat.

The A's would not score again, despite constantly getting men on base, until the top of the 9th. With 1 out, Pennington walked, and Jemile Weeks came up. Weeks hit a long double to Center, which Pennington held up a little on, preventing him from scoring. Mark Ellis, 2-4 on the night, came up next and Squibbed a bloop single to center with the infield in to score Pennington, and Coco Crisp hit a long sac fly to the wall to score Weeks, and put the game out of reach of the Phillies.. or so it seemed.

Flashing back to the bottom of the 8th inning, Trevor Cahill entered the inning laboring. After giving up a long, hard fly ball to left center, Ross Gload, pinch hitting, hit a hard double to the same area but deeper. Right there, it was obvious that Cahill, at 96 pitches, was done. After a very scary at bat, with two close wild pitches, Cahill somehow managed to strike out Jimmy Rollins. In the next at bat, the result was not so lucky. Cahill finally threw one that Suzuki could not block, and the runner advanced to 3rd, with Polanco eventually walking. With the winning run on 1st and the tying run on 3rd, Andrew Bailey came in and shut the door on the 8th with a groundball to Ellis.

In the bottom of the 9th, Ryan Howard led the inning off with a deep fly ball to the warning track for the first out. Then, from the A's perspective, came the trouble, or from the Phillies perspective, came the tease. Shane Victorino doubled off the wall with 1 out, and after walking the next batter, the tying run was up to bat. Luckily, Brown, who had earlier caused great ire with Phillies fans after hitting a sharp groundball to Jemile Weeks, which deflected off Weeks' glove, and thrown out at first because he had not hustled on the play, grounded to 2nd base for a 4-6-3 double play to end the game.

Notes:

  • There were many fine defensive plays today, from Weeks to Rosales to Jackson to Matsui. It almost reminded me of the A's of yesteryear. 
  • Crappy lineup it may be, but Melvin somehow succeeded with this one.
  • That said, Mark Ellis, despite his 2-4 day, has no business as the team's starting first baseman. Chris Carter should be out there.
  • Cahill looked awesome tonight, throwing 7.2 IP and allowing 1 ER, with 3 hits, 3 walks and 6 strikeouts. 
  • I would personally like to thank Andrew Bailey for not being Brian Fuentes.

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by sums95 on Jun 25, 2011 7:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Excellent recap, Zonis.

I missed the game, and I like it when I can get a feel for what happened from the recap.

(I also like it when a matchup or lineup which everyone is convinced spells certain doom for us somehow manages to turn out all right anyway!)

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by iglew on Jun 25, 2011 7:33 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Thanks

Even a blind squirrel is right twice a day.

by Zonis on Jun 25, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hell of a game to be there in person with ANers

I was worried, but the A’s played such a solid good game

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by baseballgirl on Jun 25, 2011 7:34 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Still need a power bat

Either get Carter in at 1B or make a trade for one. Can’t add so much pressure on SP to be near flawless to maintain a win

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by PHUT! on Jun 25, 2011 7:35 PM PDT reply actions  

After tomorrow, Carter should become the every day DH.

Matsui has been surprisingly terrific in the OF, and can combine with Crisp and DDJ to form our current OF.

When Willingham returns, I wouldn’t even object to seeing Willingham, Crisp, Matsui sometimes in the OF (though I’d rather see more of DDJ), with Carter at DH, because a lineup with Matsui-Willingham-Carter in the middle STILL isn’t any sort of “murderer’s row” — it just has potential to actually do some damage. Those games, go to Sweeney and DDJ early as defensive replacements.

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by Nico on Jun 25, 2011 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just hope Carter gets an opportunity to show his worth

And if this is the case, it might be the best case scenario for it

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by PHUT! on Jun 25, 2011 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matsui's Knees

won’t hold up if he plays too much outfield.

by muscatel on Jun 26, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I Just Had A Vision

Of Matsui’s kneecaps flying off as he runs to catch a flyball.

by Jason James on Jun 26, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think they'll hold up

I just think the defense he’s playing, which is more shiny-looking than actual good defense, will be exposed. He makes Willingham look like Carl Lewis.

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by jeepers on Jun 26, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I Freaked out a little bit

When I heard that Fuentes was warming up in the 8th. I’m glad Cahill pitched in the eighth, since that meant Bailey pitched a 4 out save instead of a 6 out save.

by OaklandSi on Jun 25, 2011 7:35 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

That scared me

  Seeing BF warming up. maybe Melvin was making the phillies think they could win.

by Arcman on Jun 25, 2011 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

What do you do, fall over?

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by Nico on Jun 25, 2011 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sending him on 3-1 wasn't a good idea period.

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by lenscrafters on Jun 25, 2011 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

All of us watching together at the game were, "WTF???"

Crisp flailed at a bad ball like it was a hit-and-run, and Ellis had no jump like it was a hit-and-run. Bleah.

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by Nico on Jun 25, 2011 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

You start the runner there, with a left-hander especially, to avoid a double play.

You’re not going to get a great jump so the hitter has to do a better job of taking ball four or jumping on a pitch to hit. Crisp just did a horrible job of executing the play.

by dashman33 on Jun 25, 2011 8:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

No, starting the runner to avoid a double play is a bad idea on anything other than a 3-2 count.

You’re severely handicapping the hitter because he has to swing at anything close in order to protect the runner, especially if the runner is someone like Ellis who isn’t fast or capable of stealing bases at all.

It’s just a stupid thing to do, especially on a 3-1 count, because on that count, you WANT the hitter to be as selective as possible, instead of feeling like he has to swing at anything close to protect the runner.

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by lenscrafters on Jun 25, 2011 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

In theory, the hitter can take a pitch he feels confident is a ball

But in practice, they usually “swing at anything”.

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by Nico on Jun 25, 2011 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not true

(responding to lenscrafters)

by dashman33 on Jun 25, 2011 9:15 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Good for Melvin -- he got it right tonight

The game was decided, more than at any other moment, on Chase Utley’s 8th inning AB and Melvin got Bailey in for that “super high leverage” spot. Exactly what I was referring to in my “bullpen management” post.

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by Nico on Jun 25, 2011 8:00 PM PDT reply actions  

I feel he was a bit late, but not too late, for the move.

I would have removed Cahill after he got the first out of the inning. That ball was was an out in name only, as it was crushed.

Even a blind squirrel is right twice a day.

by Zonis on Jun 25, 2011 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would have summoned Bailey for Polanco,

just because the tying run was already at 3B, so you couldn’t afford even a single, and you don’t really want it to get to Utley if possible. But I also realize Cahill had handled Polanco masterfully all game and that hasn’t happened often in Polanco’s entire career against the A’s!

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by Nico on Jun 25, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

True, although I think this was lucky more than good management

Bailey hadn’t pitched in five days and he said that Bailey would get in there no matter what. So, I’m not sure how much credit he gets.

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by cuppingmaster on Jun 25, 2011 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

No way -- especially the balls Ellis dug out for Rosales and Sizemore

Ellis was fantastic. For all we complained and ridiculed the idea of “Mark Ellis, starting 1Bman,” the guy makes every position he plays look easy. He’s just a wizard with the glove. Plus he had two hits, reached base three times, and drove in a big run. All in all, a great game for him.

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by Nico on Jun 25, 2011 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Carter wouldn't have made the play

  Those were tough catches and no way Carter is good enough to snare it.

by Arcman on Jun 25, 2011 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great win for the A's

everytime I hear/read Fuente warming up in close games it gives me it gives me the chills. Can we stretch out Bailey so he can do a six out save like how they use to do. After all he was a starter before.

by sfniners4life on Jun 25, 2011 8:21 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Problem with that is then he wouldn't be available

On back to back days, which you’d like with your closer.

by OaklandSi on Jun 26, 2011 4:40 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Harden's rehab start: 4.2 IP 72 pitches

3H 1R (HR) 2BB 6K

Looked pretty pleased with himself after being taken out. Could we actually be seeing him on the mound in five days in Oakland?

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by lenscrafters on Jun 25, 2011 8:34 PM PDT reply actions  

er...make that 3R cause DiNardo came in afterwards and promptly did what he does best.

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by lenscrafters on Jun 25, 2011 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, silly.

He flexed his pectoral muscles while giving up lots of runs.

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by Nico on Jun 26, 2011 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Could we actually be seeing him on the mound in five days in Oakland?

Sure, as long as the trainer and manager are also on the mound.

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by jeepers on Jun 25, 2011 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even though Moscoso had good results yesterday

Dude still walks more guys than he K’s. That’s bad. Harden can do better.

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by cuppingmaster on Jun 25, 2011 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really like Moscoso as a long man/spot starter.

I think he might be super sweet in that role, if the club is willing to trade a short man.

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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 25, 2011 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly, I would release Fuentes or trade him for org filler

And still pick up his salary. At this point, I think he’s providing more wins when he’s not playing for the A’s.

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by cuppingmaster on Jun 25, 2011 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

He just isn't consistent.

It’s frustrating to watch him put runners on base in close games.

by IM4Oakgal on Jun 25, 2011 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't think of anyone

who is better at handing Moscoso the ball when he leaves the mound with the trainer and the manager.

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by jeepers on Jun 25, 2011 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Glad the A's returned to their winning ways.

A very nice win against a really tough team.

Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!

by FaStRmAn on Jun 25, 2011 8:40 PM PDT reply actions  

When Harden comes back, I take it Godfrey goes down. When McCarthy comes back I think having Moscoso in the pen would be beneficial. I don’t know what you do with the roster. Could we trade Wuertz for something useful?

by Slide Giambi on Jun 25, 2011 8:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Might as well send Carter down so he can play every day

and carry an extra reliever

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by hero66 on Jun 25, 2011 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

this org is quite inept

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by hero66 on Jun 25, 2011 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best Game of the Year

This was the A’s finest hour of 2011. When you consider everything; managing, offense,
defense, and certainly, pitching in front of 45,000 plus rabid Phillies fans was great. I
also like Matsui’s play in left field, he is solid. First base needs production and for heavens sake, what has happened to Susuki. He should be better than four for thirty
something. If we get production out of our offense we could make a serious run.

by Graybeard on Jun 25, 2011 8:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Agree re Matsui

Fewer adventures on fly balls than Willingham (with admittedly small sample size). Seems to consistently have correct and reasonably quick first step.

by Alvin Dark on Jun 25, 2011 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes and I sometimes think it's bull...

when they say some DHers do much better when they play the field but maybe with Matsui it does help him hit.

by IM4Oakgal on Jun 25, 2011 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Suzuki just amazes me.

He swings way too hard, wildly with his head jerking off the ball so he can’t see himself lifting a routine fly ball, then next AB he does the exact same thing. How is he not figuring this out? He had a very good right-center field line drive swing his first season.

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by Nico on Jun 26, 2011 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Weeks, Cahill, Bailey.

These are guys we need to keep.

by PL78 on Jun 25, 2011 9:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes, and Gio.

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jun 25, 2011 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

However,

We have Suzuki and Anderson locked up, and right now it doesn’t seem so smart.

by Jason James on Jun 26, 2011 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Anyway we could have Harden take Godfrey's next start on

Wednesday, June 29th .vs. the Marlins? I know he went 4.2 Innings tonight, so 3 days would be enough rest — although, this is Harden we are talking about here. Maybe, push Moscoso up a day and have Harden start the following day. I don’t want to watch Godfrey start another game. This is when we make our push, from Tuesday, June 28th to Sunday, July 3rd, versus the Marlins and the DBacks. THEN, 7 games versus AL West rivals before the All-Star break. Lets hope we get some luck tomorrow against Halladay.

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jun 25, 2011 10:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I love Ellis,

but the A’s need to commit to Carter. Swapping Carter for Ellis/Jackson will lose a lot with the glove, but will hopefully make it up with the bat (Ellis is OPSing like .500 right now, it wouldn’t be tough). Not playing him is hurting this team and his development.

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by travdog6 on Jun 25, 2011 10:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Carter at first

He’s awful. Too stiff to get to the low throws, bad hands.

by vk on Jun 25, 2011 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

OOps you meant Ellis.

Sorry thought you were reporting on Carter.

by IM4Oakgal on Jun 25, 2011 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, Carter IS awful at first, not Ellis

Ellis has been okay for the two games so far at first. Carter is gawd awful. DH him I guess.

by CampyFan on Jun 26, 2011 3:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd prefer Carter sit today (it's Halladay anyway),

then start DHing every day, from now until around 2017. But what will actually happen is that he’ll DH once or twice against a LHP next week and then be sent back down.

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by Nico on Jun 26, 2011 7:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, unless Ellie is traded by then, which I am not predicting...

But certainly would make sense for everyone involved. Absent injury to another infielder is no real role for him. Rosales is the back up infielder with much better versatility; while Ellie better defensively than Carter or Jackson at first, not enough better to deprive someone who may be here next year playing time. May be why he is playing— A’s hoping his bat gets hot and can move him. Can’t imagine we get anything valuable in return unless we eat his salary.

by Alvin Dark on Jun 26, 2011 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its so funny

We couldnt have played the first half of the season any worse but we are only 6 games out on June 26. I’m tellin you, we are one “f’n A” trade and a couple of SPs returning away from being somewhat decent.

by PL78 on Jun 25, 2011 11:00 PM PDT reply actions  

by trade

  Do you mean trading Feuntes away. I’m all for that!

by Arcman on Jun 25, 2011 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Today's game will be tough.

With Holliday pitching, I see it being low scoring and close again. Pull out a win and we have a 3-3 road trip. Could of/should of been 5-1, but I’ll take a split.

by CampyFan on Jun 26, 2011 3:47 AM PDT reply actions  

When my team is 2-3,

I’ll always take a 3-3 trip!

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by Nico on Jun 26, 2011 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sweetness!

Wins like this make it worth being an A’s fan. This is why I always say you have to pick a team and stay with them through thick and thin! Way to go green and GOLD!!

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by a's freak 1979 on Jun 26, 2011 8:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Chris Carter still can't get into a game.
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#A’s lineup today in Philly: Weeks 2b, Pennington ss, Crisp cf, Matsui lf, Jackson 1b, Sweeney rf, Sizemore 3b, Powell c, Outman p.

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by mikev on Jun 26, 2011 8:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Oh, and Balfour probably isn't available.

Can this team be any more stupid? They’re using a 23 man roster in the NL.

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by mikev on Jun 26, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

And don't expect Carter any time soon, either. Not unless he's at 1B
Susan Slusser
Matsui will DH the first few games back at home so Melvin can get DeJesus in against three RH starters in a row.

This is consistent with her reporting Melvin may start him at DH against a LHP but this still begs the question of why they chose him to bring up in the first place.

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by Flashfire on Jun 26, 2011 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

As A Filler?

With Willingham out, they needed a roster replacement, and Carter seemed like the best option. Shouldn’t get wasted, though.

by Jason James on Jun 26, 2011 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

STUUUUUUUUUUUUPID

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by mikev on Jun 26, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

What?

Isn’t that his main attraction?
Of course, it would be lovely if he could do other stuff, and maybe that’s why he’s sitting.

by Jason James on Jun 26, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

NL and AL

At NL Parks, as a pinch hitter.

At AL Parks, to be a spot DH and extra bat on the bench.

by muscatel on Jun 26, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ridiculous. He should be playing every day. Either here or in Sacramento.

I hate how we jerk our prospects around.

I’m actually super, super surprised Weeks didn’t make way for Ellis. We have previous!

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by OldhamA on Jun 26, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good Win

Hamels isn’t the easiest guy to beat. Unfortunately, it won’t get an easier against Halladay. If Outman can lead us to the win, then we’ll walk away with a 3-3 road trip, and a series win over the Phillies.
Will the gold jerseys be out?

by Jason James on Jun 26, 2011 9:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Headline not accurate, Hamels did throw very well

Fluke home run by Rosales. Would have been 1-1 when he left. This game was huge, with Cahill going and Halladay on Sunday.

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by salary_cap on Jun 26, 2011 9:25 AM PDT reply actions  

True

Hamels put together a good performance (8 IP, 2R). But Cahill was better.

by Jason James on Jun 26, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

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