I wore an Athletics jersey to the Giants/Indians game last night...
I wore my #10 Daric Barton Athletics 2011 Green Alt to work yesterday. I do this from time to time, why not show baseball when baseball season is on?
At 3:15P I got a call from a friend asking me if I wanted to go to the Giants/Indians game. I rarely turn down an opportunity to see baseball at the park, but this meant I'd be wearing an Athletics jersey to a Giants game.
So what happened?
Well I had time to find some pants but I didn't have time to go home and change my shirt and I'm not sure I would have if I could. So I met my friend to drive up wearing my official jersey and an As cap too. He chuckled a bit seeing my outfit and off we went to the game.
I had already considered the situation and figured I wouldn't be at risk of harm. The only big question in my mind would be how smug would I feel when no one noticed I was wearing a jersey from a player who had recently been sent down to AAA after a promising 2010.
I stopped by the Caltrain station to buy a ticket for the way home (I was sharing a ride up but not back) and on my way out of the station someone on the way to the park called to me "Let's Go Oakland". I couldn't tell if he was facetious or not but I responded "Go As". After I walked by another person in his group saw the back of my jersey, he says "Daric Barton, Sacramento Athletics". This surprised me a lot, so I stopped and chatted real quick. We talked about Barton and the As and how Barton was a Rivercat now. He knew the name of the team, just was making a joke with his Sacramento Rivercats comment. I mentioned that unfortunately, Daric hadn't even played in Sacramento yet and I hoped that there wasn't anything going wrong and that he would report when the next home stand started.
As I walked to the game further another fan engaged me as we waited to cross the street, mentioning my Barton jersey and how he was in AAA now. A 3rd fan also stopped me outside to talk about the As, although he didn't didn't know about Barton. However, this was not before I finally ran into the jerk fan I was expecting all along.
This fan was more drunk and in a group of other people. He asks me "Why are you wearing an As uniform?" and I answer simply "Why not?" He then proceeds to give me crap about the As being losers, the GIants being Series champions and various other stupid stuff. He didn't actually seem to by trying to start a fight, but he was a useless jerk. I just gave him a thumbs up and proceeded to ignore him until he stopped being interested in needling me.
It was good game, I had come in late and the Giants were down 2-0 before I sat down. I rooted for the Giants as I don't dislike the NL and I have no love for the Indians. The Giants engineered a late game comeback and the crowd was thrilled. The Giants hit better than the As do, but not a lot better. They didn't play defense all that well and my friend said you had to have some patience with them. It was weird to see a team making mistakes like the As do, but without the excuse of "well, half the players on the field were Rivercats in April". Sandoval in particular made an egregious running error advancing to 2nd on his shallow right field hit. He was tagged for the 3rd out between 1st and 2nd before the runner who had started at 2nd could score. He probably saved the runner from being chewed out too because he shouldn't have gone home, he wouldn't had made it if Sandoval hadn't drawn the throw to 2nd (the right fielder was not Choo, he had been beaned earlier and left the game).
I'm of pretty hardy stock and so didn't have a jacket on over my jersey until the 8th inning. No one in the stands said anything nasty to me, no one "accidentally" spilled a beer on my jersey. My friend said he was glad to be with someone who liked baseball enough to wear a jersey to a game even if it wasn't a Giants jersey and in fact that's why he called me in the first place.
On the train ride home just before I got off a large man asks me if the Athletics won today too. I said nope, Moscoso had pitched well but Fuentes lost it in the 9th. He said "try to avoid sharp objects" to me as I stepped off the train. I couldn't tell if that was some kind of bizarre threat or if he really was trying to wish me well.
So I learned some things. First, always have pants and a jacket in the trunk in case you need to go to a Giants game. Second, dammit that's a great park, if you didn't like the game you could watch the sailboats on the bat.
Finally, it turns out As fans don't have a exclusive on baseball fandom in the Bay Area. Yeah, there were a lot of lousy fans there. I even saw 4 women who could be described as nothing other than "Giants bimbos" who spent most of their time out of their seats or texting and generally showing themselves off. But if you're going to assume everyone you see wearing a Giants shirt or at a Giants game isn't a real baseball fan you're going to be wrong some of the time.
Can we have our good stadium now? It'd be nice to have our own "fair weather" fans to help us make payroll to field a better team.
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Rooted for the Giants? For Shame
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by Zonis on Jun 25, 2011 6:50 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
I would think this would have caused more of an uproar
Well I had time to find some pants
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by OptimistPrime on Jun 26, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Ummm....
I hate it when people who wear fan gear that are irrelevant to the game they attend. Granted your situation was unique, but maybe you could have taken the jersey off and just went with the shirt under that? Maybe borrow a shirt?
AT&T Park is nice, but not the best ballpark I’ve been to. Seattle and Cleveland IMO is better
And there are a lot of bandwagon Giants fans. When I go to AT&T Park to see games, I encounter a lot of them. Even during Interleague, a lot of bandwagon Giants fans in Oakland too.
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It was a plain white v-neck T. No, I was going to go with just that.
I don’t dress for you, I dress for me. If you don’t like it, lump it.
I want to see Seattle’s park, I’ve seen it from the outside and it looks nice. I doubt I’d get to Cleveland, I’d go to Detroit first, it’s closer to my family and it’s the team I grew up with.
by 4-6-3 on Jun 26, 2011 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just my thinking
I’ve always liked to be properly dressed for the occasion when I got to places. At least you were wearing baseball stuff, not basketball or football or whatever. That’s how I like to view things.
For me, it’s like going to a grand opening of a new Subway restaurant while wearing a Burger King shirt.
But that’s me. I always feel that I should be properly dressed for the occasion. If I don’t care for either team, then I’ll just wear something generic. And since you didn’t have a chance to change, that’s OK.
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I don't see how
wearing baseball gear to a baseball game is not being properly dressed for the occasion. I am not trying to tell you what to wear to a baseball game, but I don’t understand why you feel the need to tell other people what to wear. Furthermore I fail to see how what other people wear to a baseball game has any affect on you what so ever.
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by catfishunterSthompson on Jun 27, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Read what I wrote before you jump to things
I didn’t say it was a rule. I just said that’s how I view things. I never said that he was breaking any rule. He brought up the topic knowing that there would be some people who might disagree. I disagree with what he did. But am I so offended by it? No.
Please read what I wrote before jumping to conclusions. I didn’t like that he wore A’s gear but I stated that at least he didn’t wear non baseball clothes there.
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I did read what you wrote.
“I hate it when people who wear fan gear that are irrelevant to the game they attend.”
You are right that you aren’t telling other people what to wear but I find it comical that you actually care what people wear to a ballgame or to a Subway grand opening. It is not a wedding.
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by catfishunterSthompson on Jun 28, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
So I am not entitled to have an opinion about it?
I didn’t tell him he couldn’t. I just said I don’t like it. Am I required to like what he did?
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Yes, it was a suggestion
But I didn’t demand him to do it. I said I didn’t like it but given his situation, I said at least he didn’t show up in a football jersey or something. Then our conversation on that topic ended and we talked about the ballparks.
Yet you guys continue to bring it up again.
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disagree
As A’s fans we should represent our team wherever we go. I went to a Rockies game when I was in Colorado 2 years ago, if I remember correctly they were playing the Diamondbacks. I have no love for either team just love for the game of baseball. Why should I not rock my teams colors? Every Giants game I go to I rock the Green & Gold, and will never change.
Side-note: The final out of the game came when Huston Street got the batter to pop-out to Carlos Gonzales, a nice big helping of salt for my wounds since Matt Holliday was sucking wind in Oakland.
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by catfishunterSthompson on Jun 27, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
To me it has nothing to do with who we should or shouldn't represent...
…and everything to do with just wearing what team-related things you want to a game, wherever it is, whoever’s playing.
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Sweet!
I see people wearing Giants gear at the Coliseum all the time. I remember being at a Giants game years ago and I was probably about 15. I wore an A’s hat and my buddies dad was pissed and told me that this wasn’t Oakland and I couldn’t wear any random hat lol
by Matt Sampson on Jun 25, 2011 7:48 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Hope you told him to shove it in his pie hole!
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by kenntoe on Jun 25, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You kind of are being disrespectful by doing this.
I mean I always say “Whoever wears Yankees hats to A’s/Giants games is a douchebag” so, you are kind of doing the same thing here.
Fact of the matter is, if you attend a game where you dont care about either team: wear street clothes. I attended many Giants games when I lived in SF, I never wore my A’s hat unless we were playing them that day.
by PL78 on Jun 25, 2011 8:58 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
I disagree with this
I’ve been to Giants/other-NL-team games in SF wearing my A’s shirt/hat and I don’t mean any disrespect to anyone by doing this. I’m just showing that I’m a baseball fan and happen to be enjoying baseball at another stadium other than the O.co. I believe that fans should be able to wear whatever team’s jerseys they wish to wear at any game they go to. It’s not disrespect. It’s just being a fan of the game.
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by weenmAN on Jun 25, 2011 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
Dude, it has nothing to do with your opinion on it
As far as I’m concerned nobody should be telling others what they can and can’t wear to a game when it comes to team-related stuff.
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by Flashfire on Jun 26, 2011 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
There's a difference between being a fan of the game and being a fan of THE game in front of you.
Its pretty stupid to want to encourage other teams representation in games where that team is not present. Do you clap after movies when the director is not present too? I hate those kind of people. You can be a fan of the game without wearing team colors.
by PL78 on Jun 25, 2011 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I'll wear my A's hat anywhere I want, thanks
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by Flashfire on Jun 26, 2011 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
In fact, an example for you
While I was on my September trip last year to see the A’s in KC and MIN, I went to single games at four other places. I wore my A’s hat to a couple of them and the only thing it led to was a few conversations – and pretty nice ones – with people about the trip I was in the middle of.
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and you can be a fan of the game while wearing team colors.
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by catfishunterSthompson on Jun 27, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Did you even read the post, PL78?
He didn’t have another shirt…
At one point in my life I liked Dave Kingman more than Rickey Henderson. I was stupid.
by the_rozeboom on Jun 26, 2011 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess I'm doing the same thing. I don't care if you think people who wear other teams hats to a game is a douchebag
Honestly, you saying this makes you sound like a douchebag.
by 4-6-3 on Jun 26, 2011 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Keep up the good work my man!
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by catfishunterSthompson on Jun 27, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
fwiw, i completely agree with you
I hate when people do this. If the team is not in the building, DONT WEAR YOUR GEAR. But hey, that’s me.
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I strongly disagree
I proudly wear A’s clothes to any non A’s games I’ve been to. It’s no more “disrespectful” than fans who wear shiny new jerseys of the home team and don’t even pay attention to the game at all. That, to me, is much more of a problem than a true baseball fan sporting his or her team’s colors.
by Johnny Bravo on Jun 25, 2011 9:50 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I do not agree with your views.
Mostly because people that do this look really stupid. If you want people to think A’s fans are stupid, then thats kind of lame.
So all people have this same belief?
Strong logic. I’m sure you feel the same way about people who wear Aerosmith shirts to AC/DC concerts….Anyway, I don’t really care if someone wears merchandise of a team not involved in the game they are attending. Sure, I may make a joke about it, but that doesn’t mean I automatically assume they are stupid. If anything, it tells me they are a fan of the sport, which should be more important than an allegiance to a team.
They don't look stupid just because you say so
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by Flashfire on Jun 26, 2011 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
I think that someone who calls others stupid all the time
tends to have a lot of mental deficiencies of his/her own.
Takes one to know one, right?
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 27, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I can't control what other people think.
Some people likely will think a person with an As jersey at a Giants game looks stupid. But I can’t stop them from making judgements about me without knowing me. So I just don’t take the time to be concerned about trying to do it.
Yep
My ay of showing people I’m an A’s fan. I wore my A’s cap to a Yankees game, and would wear it to any other game. Nothing wrong with that. Just don’t make a show of it.
I'm with you. I like baseball.
I don’t have time to hate teams I don’t care about (Giants), so I can enjoy a game between just about any two teams. Heck, I even root for the SJ Giants when I’m going to a game down there.
It’s just not a big deal to me, I like baseball. I like a good game. I like the As to win, but if the As aren’t there, I still can get interested and enjoy myself.
I was saddened I didn’t get to see more of Choo. I really like him and he didn’t get to do a lot before he was beaned and had to leave the game.
by 4-6-3 on Jun 26, 2011 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Welcome to AN, 4-6-3
I see you joined us in April and this is your first post. Don’t be discouraged by the Uniform Police. Hope you will write more posts.
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Thanks. I've commented before but not posted.
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Simple
Its your civic duty to wear an A’s hat/jersey anywhere you damn well please, and it’s their civic duty to heckle you.
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by OptimistPrime on Jun 26, 2011 10:30 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Well put.
I’d say 4-6-3’s experience speaks well for Giants fans. Most were nice about it or gave him good-natured heckling. One guy was a dick, but didn’t push it to the point of real offense. That’s not so bad.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
And what happens when I wear my Philadelphia A's cap
to the Coli? Nada, nothing.
Most fans don’t put two and two together and see the blue pennants above the outfield. The Athletics wore blue back in Philly, so the hat is a “retro” hat. Still, no one minds, never had a “Why the Atlanta hat??!!” or something like that.
I don’t go for jerseys with player’s names on the back…just too overdone. But that’s simply the way I view it, and I don’t give anyone guff for wearing what they want. And what about fans that put their own names on backs of jerseys?? Is that bad, or good, or??? After all the A’s gave that 100-yr old fan a jersey with her name on it…not Suzuki or Braden…
I get invited to Giants games maybe once a year. I always bring a blue LA Dodger hat for my friend to wear :^). Pull it out and put it on them, “Hey, it’s cold, here’s a hat!” I wear an A’s hat, or a UCSB hat to Giants games.
2011: Go Athletics!
by One won lost won on Jun 28, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I wore an A's hat deliberately to the Giants game the other week
On the day that Geren was fired, nonetheless. It was my first time to AT&T, and I actually enjoyed the heckles I’d get occasionally throughout the stadium. Most of them came from drunken fans who, based on their comments, didn’t know much about baseball anyway. (An example: “Too bad the A’s lost to New York today!” – we were playing Chicago, and the game hadn’t ended yet.) My favorite, though, was a Giants “fan” I was talking to in the concessions line that insisted the Giants franchise had more total World Series championships than the A’s because the A’s in Oakland were not the same franchise as Philadelphia/KC, yet the Giants franchise included years in both SF and NY. He couldn’t understand the difference between “club” and “franchise”, or was deliberately using a selective definition double standard to claim the Giants had more championships than the A’s. Classic Gnats fan material…I couldn’t stop laughing to myself that night, and to this day in fact!
I liked the stadium (and enjoyed that SF lost to the Reds) and I have no problem at all with wearing gear from any team you wish at any baseball game anywhere. Who is anyone else to tell you what to wear or not wear to an open, public event that does not have any specified dress code? Does that mean I can’t wear an A’s hat to a minor league game where neither team is an affiliate of the A’s? Lame-O!!! Keep on wearing the A’s gear there, bro. I will!
I did see annoying green and gold hats with the SF logo on them...
I somehow doubt they’ve got black and orange hats with A’s logos on them. Who among us would wear one? Not me!
I was actually tempted to look for them after seeing the other hats
but then I don’t think I could bring myself to wear black and orange for more than five minutes unless it’s Halloween, regardless of the logo.
I just don't understand why anyone would willingly buy either of those, let alone wear one
They might even be worse than the split caps.
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Oh lord...that hat makes me rage
Actually got upset at the dude wearing it. Unsurprisingly, he wasn’t even a baseball fan.
Unfortunately of those "twisted" caps as they're actually called
The ones with the A’s colors are by far the most popular. I’ve seen versions of those with almost every other team on them including those vomit inducing Giants ones and Yankees ones.
I don't think that's because A's fans are any more virtuous.
It’s just that green and gold are nice colors, whereas orange and black is hideous. I can see how if that’s your team’s colors you would tolerate it, but no one with any taste would choose orange and black on purpose.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
I think the team with the best colors in baseball is the RiverCats, and of course anyone else with that palette.
Too bad the Astros and Diamondbacks have such crappy logos and wordmarks. Then again, neither team should be wearing those colors anyway.
The Astros should go back to the lighter blue, and the H with the star, and even updated button-down tequila sunrise uniforms on Sundays at home.
The Diamondbacks need to go back to the purple, and they never should have abandoned it in the first place.
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 27, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm a little torn on the River Cats
The color scheme is good and at least the black alts are a decent fit with the colors they use (which does include black already), but I kind of wish they’d wear a maroon alt a little more often. Once in a while I’ll see them wear the one in batting practice but that’s more just a pullover.
I guess as a photographer I’d rather they wear the white vest tops more at night. Easier to shoot. ;-)
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I'd revamp the entire uniform set except for the road grays, which are perfect.
However, the color scheme wouldn’t change one iota.
The hats should have an S on them, home and road… no more Cat on the Hat.
Bring back the home pinstripes, and synchronize striping schemes between all jerseys and pants.
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 27, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
The problem is they never wear the road grays any more
I think those visiting ballboys have the only one or two of those left.
Doesn’t make much sense.
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Maroon and black??
Well, to each his own, but I think that’s a horrid combination. Not quite as bad as orange and black, but not good either.
I hate maroon. My school colors were maroon and gold, and I didn’t like it then, either, though the gold is probably the least bad color to pair it with.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
total color
i’m gonna use cruyff to say that orange/black can be classy and classic it its own way…

and that the key to maroon (or in this case grana) is to match it with a blue of the same depth.

by AV on Jun 27, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Neither of those pictures is changing my opinion....
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
i just remembered aston villa.
two things going for them, if nothing else: BEST initials in all of footballdom, and the surprising prettiness of maroon (or in this case claret) and light blue.

by AV on Jun 27, 2011 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
That's a little better.
If it were light blue sleeves with a deep violet/purple torso, that would be sweet.
I still don’t like the maroon and maroonish colors. De gustibus and all that.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
it dawned on me as i was drifting to sleep last night that i was doing to you the thing i hate done to me… when i mention to a friend one of the 3 or 4 bands i actively dislike, and then he or she spends the rest of the visit mentioning songs by them, trying to persuade me by surprises that i really do like that band, when really, we could, and it would make me much happier, be talking about the 100000000000000 bands i actively do like.
so…. violet huh?
Well, what I'd really love is to see a team in pink.
But that will never happen.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
that can be classy. barcelona FC has a pink third shirt to show off the unicef logo they carry on their chests in benefit when other teams sell that space. it’s a touch salmon, but still pink. and it’s not really a team color. in the US, i can’t see a men’s team having pink as a color. maybe in a tropical country. perhaps los bravos could bring it in against their teal.
by AV on Jun 28, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Pink is awesome.
I don’t know why America insists on it being unmanly. I love wearing pink shirts.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Sweet!
Avanti rosa!
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Be proud of wearing your A's stuff.
Anywhere, anytime — haters can eat it!
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by oaklandSMASH on Jun 26, 2011 11:18 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I hear ya!
what’s funny is that I’ve noticed even more heckling this year as opposed to previous years because they won the WS.
I will wear my A’s gear anytime I’m invited to a Giants game. I don’t like the Giants, and I won’t pretend to. I was invited to the 4th of July game, and will again rock the green n gold. It’s a damn baseball game, and I will wear my baseball gear and that gear happens to be of the A’s. If you don’t like it, too damn bad.
I like to wear my white Athletics jacket, which gets positive comments from their fans because it’s a pretty sweet jacket. The A’s I have to admit, produce some of the ugliest garbage they call clothing. That has been my biggest challenge since becoming an A’s fan, and that’s finding cool A’s gear to wear. There is an extreme shortage. Lew Wolff needs to hire a fashion consultant or something. Green n gold can look good, but you wouldn’t be able to tell it by glancing through the stands at an A’s game.
The Giants otoh, have some nice unis and they also have a better / nicer selection of team gear. Why can’t we have nice things? I would be broke if I were a Giants fan. That was my rant. I feel better now I got that off my chest. Hopefully someone in the A’s FO or Lew himself is reading this and starts making better looking A’s clothing. With that said, I think I will rock my silver & black A’s jersey to my next Giants game. And props to the new alt gold jerseys. You finally got one right!
What self respecting A's fan goes to a giants game when the A's are not playing
And you rooted for the Giants????
And begging for a new ball park with fair weather fans?
What is this the Chris Townsend show????
Gianst fans are mooks. They don’t know how to Cheer or boo and half of them are not even paying attention to the game.
Hello? You play to win the game!
And you actually paid for a Barton jersey?
LoL to you sir!
Hello? You play to win the game!
If you're complaining about low attendance in the Coliseum
then it’s pretty much mandatory you be in favor of casual fans. There’s just no such thing filling a stadium with die-hards. You need the bandwagoners to pump it up. Given our attendance for the past few years, it is mathematically impossible for a full stadium not to be filled either with newbies or outsiders.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
I was not complaining about A's attendance at all.
In fact, on average our attendance has been up. How ever I will give giants fans credit, in that they actually show up for games. Where as with A’s fans I have seen people get their give away jerseys, and turn around and go right back on to bart back home.
Hello? You play to win the game!
i thought this topic had already been thoroughly covered and closed…
GEORGE: Just take the cap off.
ELAINE: George, we are at a baseball game! This is America!
by AV on Jun 27, 2011 4:46 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I've never gotten the impression that typical Giants fans are the type to maliciously heckle fans of other teams.
Unfortunately, the worst case of “over the line” heckling of a fan I’ve ever seen was a couple A’s fans heckling someone wearing a Giants hat at the Coliseum. I’m all for good-natured ribbing, but these guys had decided the best tactic to take was to point out that San Francisco was gay, thus the Giants were gay, thus the guy wearing this hat was gay. I spent half the game listen to these guys hurl homophobic slurs at this guy for wearing a Giants hat. Sad and embarrassing.
I do that to giants fans all the time. Lot's of people in the bleachers do.
If you don’t want to be called “gay” for wearing a giants hat, my guess is you should just stay in att park, or go watch the game at a bar in the castro. And SF is literally the gayest city in the united states. Everyone knows it. More gays per capita than anywhere in the world. It is what it is.
Hello? You play to win the game!
right so every time I go to AT&T park to see the A's
and a white giants fan tells me, a black person, “go back to the ghetto” , “go back to the east bay you gorrilla”, etc, I should throw a sad online hissy fit?
No way, I deal with it, its part of the game. Its part of the stigma of being a minority and an A’s fan while in SF. You grow a thick skin and buck up, because quite frankly I am going to a ball game, not a ballet.
Hello? You play to win the game!
So because someone else goes to a city-related insult, it's okay for you to do the same?
Classy.
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by Flashfire on Jun 29, 2011 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Isn't it?
I haven’t been able to find any well-sourced data on that.
Plenty of unsubstantiated claims on various sites online. Some say it’s SF, some say it isn’t.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Minneapolis got "gayest city" recently
I remember b/c I thought, really? I have to check out Minneapolis!
doesn’t even come top-ten in the advocate…
http://www.advocate.com/Print_Issue/Travel/Gayest_Cities_in_America_February_2011/
by AV on Jun 29, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Makes sense to me.
When I was deep into the SF arts community (which overlaps heavily with the gay community) in the 1990s, I noticed a disproportionate number of the gay men commute from Oakland. Specifically, Oakland is where gay couples settle down. SF is where they live when they’re single.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Yeah, I found that, too.
But the Advocate explicitly states that their measure is not scientific. They are just saying which cities are the “gayest”, not addressing the question of gay citizens per capita (and in a few cases, saying that their choices are in spite of that).
I’m curious about the per capita claim, but I’m not sure there’s any reliable measure.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Oh look, here it is.
Right there in the Advocate’s series:
In fact, according to an Urban Institute analysis of U.S. Census data, Oakland has the second highest concentration of same-sex couple households in the country as far as large metro areas go (behind San Francisco).
So it sounds like LetsGoA’s was correct about the per capita claim after all.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
And so is Oakland!
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
this made me laugh
“San Francisco is totally Gay”
Because it sounds kinda offensive, but it’s actually not offensive at all. At least not that way you said it.
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"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
It's called heckling, some of us are not overly PC.
If calling giants fans gay embarrasses you, please do not come to an Oakland raider game. Your ears might not be able to handle it.
Hello? You play to win the game!
it is really dumb.
Completely uncalled for and I would ask an usher to kick you out.
As for Raider Games. that’s lame too.
I really feel sorry for you going forward in the 21st century.
Put a bird on it
I don't think the words you're looking for are "heckling" and "PC"
I think they’re “hate” and “enlightened”.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Well put
One side saying “Go back to the ghetto, gorilla” is hateful, bigoted and racist.
The other side saying, “Go back to San Francisco, fag” (or using any kind of gay slur) is just as hateful and bigoted.
There’s no place for either of those, especially at a sporting event.
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Is there a place for "Fuck the Yankees"?
Or do we have to have a stick up our butt about that, too?
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Remotely, yes.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Are you saying people who dislike gay and/or ghetto slurs being used toward people who root for one of the local teams...
…have sticks up their butts?
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No.
I’m saying I think you’re too dogmatic. Heckling another team’s fans will always have some element of stereotyping and insulting. That’s just the nature of heckling.
This might be hateful and mean, or it might be good-natured fun, or it might be somewhere in between. It’s useful to draw a distinction between those, but I feel like the way you draw the distinction is simply to say anything that references race or sexual preference is automatically verboten and “there’s no place for it”. I find that narrow-minded and inflexible. Hence the butt-stick reference.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
I'm sorry, but heckling can easily be done without referring to places as ghettos, people as gorillas or gay, etc.
The people who engage in those sorts of insults are not deserving of being excused.
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