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Eyeball Notes On The New Guys (Your Vision May Vary)

Is it the dawn of a new era in Oakland, or is it just a different Bob? Who knows, but here's what I've observed following the flurry of moves on the roster and at the helm...

Scott Sizemore

Sure, it's hard to think about Sizemore at this moment without focusing too much on his most recent at bat, but I'm looking at a much bigger sample...which is still a really small one...But from what I've seen of Sizemore, I think he has the best chance of being a legitimate 3B option of anyone since whenever Eric Chavez was last in one piece.

I really like his swing, which looks short and compact, quick, and is combined with a good eye and strong plate discipline. And in contrast to Daric Barton, Cliff Pennington, and Ryan Sweeney, his swing seems to generate some "ball jumps off the bat" force that might generate surprising power instead of surprising lack of power.

Defensively, Sizemore figures to be quite the work-in-progress, which was evidenced by his poor decision last night to make a throw -- and not a good one as it turned out -- when he should have held onto the ball. However, he looks to me like he has the quickness, hands, and arm to be a decent 3Bman, so I'm putting him into my "cautiously optimistic" category: I like what I've seen so far.

Star-divide

Jemile Weeks

At the plate, so far he has been oft far too impatient but when he hasn't hacked at the first pitch to swing at a "pitcher's pitch" he has shown a decent eye and patience thereafter. It will be interesting to see what his plate discipline looks like once he has settled down and pitchers have learned more about his strengths and weaknesses.

On the bases he is exactly what the A's have so desperately needed: Someone who can create energy and excitement but who, unlike Rajai Davis, hasn't shown a particular propensity to act like a dunderheaded mule out there.

In the field, even when he makes a play you can easily visualize how Mark Ellis would have made the same play look so much easier. Weeks' footwork needs attention, especially on turning DPs, as he does not use the bag in anything approaching the wizard-like way we are accustomed to seeing with Ellis. Weeks needs to learn how to come to the home plate side at times, use the base as a shield other times, and so on -- and who better to teach this than Ellis? Here's hoping the A's will transition Ellis from every day starter to mentor, rather than just sending Weeks back to AAA in a week or just cutting ties abruptly with Ellis. How they would do this, however, is unclear since Ellis does not have potential to be a backup utility infielder. Weeks' throwing motion also looks awkward to me, like he could be using his body better to set up his throws.

Overall, Weeks looks both raw and talented, as well as unfazed by being in the big leagues, but what stands out most is that he brings a kind of spark that happens to be just what the doctor ordered for this team right now.

Bob Melvin

I don't want to read too much into too little, because let's face it: Matsui's line drive in the 9th inning last night could have carried a little farther to Alex Rios and the A's would have lost 5-3 without even much of a tease. But I recall early in the rally, Kurt Suzuki was sitting next to where Melvin was standing when Melvin clapped encouragement and Suzuki, seeing this, echoed it with claps of encouragement he wasn't planning to offer.

What does that all signify? Who the heck knows? But allow me at least one day to bask in the glow of a manager who came aboard choosing to speak of the need for energy and the promise of more energy, who has modeled a different persona than the one the team was dying slowly -- or should I say quickly -- alongside, and whose team snatched victory from the jaws of defeat in day two of the Bob Melvin era.

I really don't know if Bob Melvin is good, but I do know that Bob Geren had sucked the very life out of the Oakland A's and that Melvin -- whether by being change for change's sake or by knowing CPR -- has given the A's a pulse. As has Weeks, and as did Sizemore with a memorable swing that has capped a promising first week.

What have you seen from these guys, or from others worth discussing? See you at 4:10pm for first pitch!

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I think Melvin is a big improvement over Geren. Last night was a perfect example. He cheered and gave encouragement and motivated the rest of the team to do the same.
Sizemore is looking good. Obviously yesterday’s AB kind of takes center stage, but he’s got an aggressive swing and makes good contact.
Weeks has done exactly what everyone hoped for him to do. He looks good, and is hitting well. Obviously he has a high standard to live up defensively, because Ellis was a fantastic second basemen. One of the best things about Weeks is that he has the capability to become a catalyst on the base paths, like Rajai Davis. He can hit triples and steal bases, and get things started for the team.

by Jason James on Jun 11, 2011 8:54 AM PDT reply actions  

Sometimes all it takes is a manager who looks like he's into the game, someone who looks like a motivator

Blah blah blah players are paid millions blah blah blah delicate little flowers and so on.

Fact is, sometimes they need a little something more. Geren was just a robot and never looked like he was really into what he was doing, never looked like he could be bothered. Eventually that will have some kind of an effect on others and it can only be negative.

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by Flashfire on Jun 11, 2011 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I suspect the fact that the players knew he was the GM's friend,

and seen as above objective evaluation, diminished morale yet further — the idea that politics and power, not performance and feedback, are driving the process, is innately infuriating and demoralizing. “We all hate this guy, but no one will listen because he’s tight with the GM” is not the basis for a healthy atmosphere.

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by Nico on Jun 11, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Do you think hiring someone like Melvin is a shift in Beane philosophy?

Or more getting a guy who’s experienced since this is the middle of the season?

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by cuppingmaster on Jun 11, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I suspect it was a forced move Beane made because he "had to"

not because he “saw the light”. I think his blinders were on full tilt ahead with Geren, and luckily for everyone he really had no choice but to do the right thing.

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by Nico on Jun 11, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's going to be hard to go back now

I can’t see how next season, Beane is like “okay, well, this Melvin guy, who’s experienced and all that… we’re hiring Joel Skinner instead. He’s going to be my puppet execute the team’s plan well. Sorry NewBob.”

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by cuppingmaster on Jun 11, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Only two games in to having an actual manager and you can see that?

I can, too.

Let’s hope Billy notices that his hypothesis vis-a-vis managers mostly not mattering, therefore it doesn’t matter who you appoint to be manager has been thoroughly debunked by the end of the season. I think it will be. I am pretty sure that as with any other job, there are those who add to the job description, those who manage (use intended) to do the job just OK, and those who are thoroughly unsuitable for the job. Those who fall in the last category are probably found out pretty quickly unless they either have a best friend protecting them, or a team that could be truly superior if properly managed. Thus they usually have only a minor effect on won-lost records for average or below-average teams.

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by justANotherAsFan on Jun 11, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

i think it depends on how the team plays here on out

if they play above 500 then BB has little choice but to stick with him. if the players rally behind him and show an exciting game worth watching BB will stay with him

by heartstopper on Jun 11, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, he could have done the wrong thing alright.

I’m glad he didn’t, but he could have.

"I heard the reason Geren never played Powell was so he could have someone around to fetch him a cushion."- UrgentMirth

by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 11, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

That friendship could only hurt the team.

by Jason James on Jun 11, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Everything feels different

Last night’s team felt like a wholly different team than the A’s of the start of the season. With a cheerleader and encouraging presence at the helm, this team looks and feels looser. Matsui has seemingly come to life. I like Sizemore, I am not deluded into thinking he is the answer but anything other than Kouzmanoff gives me reason to hope. Weeks now, there is something about that kid. He has that certain something, an indomitable spirit, hustle, bravado we have been missing. I like it! This is your 2011 1/2 Oakland Athletics!

A Kouzmanoff for the rest of us!

by OptimistPrime on Jun 11, 2011 8:56 AM PDT reply actions  

A little voice told me that the Tigers fu*ked up bad getting rid of Sizemore.

He’s gonna be our f’n hero about a month from now.

"I heard the reason Geren never played Powell was so he could have someone around to fetch him a cushion."- UrgentMirth

by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 11, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's a funny one.

His AAA numbers are pretty damn impressive and he’s still pretty young. The Tigers didn’t have enough patience to wait out a bad start for him. Which surprises me because watching him bat he has a very professional approach that, if the talent is there, is going to get results.

Rios took away a single from Sizemore earlier in the game on a line drive. I think his double, much like Weeks’ triple were partly because Rios was playing so shallow all game – which is good ’cos it now means the CF is going to start playing back to those two a little more, which will increase the number of balls that land in front of them.

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by OldhamA on Jun 11, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I liked Matsui's reaction next to Melvin on Sizemore's hit

If nothing else it looks like Melvin’s going to be able to motivate the troops.

by Lafayette Scotsman on Jun 11, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Again, a small sample size

but I really like Pennington hitting #2. He seems to be ideally suited for the role. We’ll see. I know the jury is still out, but if this team were to be “blown up” at this point, Cliff Pennington is one of the few moving parts I’d like to keep.

by samljm on Jun 11, 2011 8:57 AM PDT reply actions  

It may be a SSS

but when you go to 31 Flavors and they give you that tiny pink spoon of Rocky Road, it’s enough to know you like it.

A Kouzmanoff for the rest of us!

by OptimistPrime on Jun 11, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed. In the two games that Penny has batted second he makes you NOT regret it. I like Barton (2009-2010 Barton) but Penny is playing like he deserves that spot.

I don’t think we need to worry about trading him though. Green isn’t even in AAA yet with no other SS coming anytime soon. I think inremember Beane saying he loves Pennington also. So that’s in his favor

by MatZt on Jun 11, 2011 9:08 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

for as low as Barton's average is

he is just a little behind Pennington in OBP.

Put a bird on it

by Future Ed on Jun 11, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah Barton walks a lot more than Pennington.

Isn’t Cliff hitting .270 these days? I think, especially with a guy like Crisp on 1B, singles are much more valuable than walks, which is why he’s playing in the #2 hole.

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by OldhamA on Jun 11, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

meh, he might

I just don;t think so.

Put a bird on it

by Future Ed on Jun 11, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Career average is a shade under .260

No reason to think he won’t be a .270-75 guy, maybe better as he gets a little experience. I realize the argument for Barton is OBP (deriving from his walks, mainly). I’ve been anticipating so much more from him, but it just doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen. I’ll be happy to be proven wrong.

by samljm on Jun 11, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

barto's line drive rate is ok

he has been getting unlucky is all

Put a bird on it

by Future Ed on Jun 11, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me too!

I feel like it should have happened a month ago, I’d been rallying for this last week, so far so good!

by brian.only on Jun 11, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

As much as I love Weeks' energy on the bases, he's had many injuries. . .

So, I worry about his headlong slides and such just like I do with Coco.

I totally agree with the OP regarding him being a work-in-progress defensively, and I too hope there’s a way for Ellis to help him out there. Mark is a class act, but it certainly is asking a lot to expect him to groom a mid-season replacement.

As to Sizemore, I think time will tell if his defense is adequate. His hitting looks fine, as did LaRouche’s at first…

 Totally agree about Melvin.

I like that Matsui’s being given every chance to fail or get hot.

I really like Penny batting 2nd for now, and Barton batting down in the order.

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by justANotherAsFan on Jun 11, 2011 9:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Tries to trade Ellis to a contender.

by MatZt on Jun 11, 2011 9:10 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well, let's see

Ellis is on the roster, Ellis comes off the DL, it’s Melvin’s job to play or not play the players on his bench. Now, whether Ellis is on the roster is Beane’s call.

A Kouzmanoff for the rest of us!

by OptimistPrime on Jun 11, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right. It's tricky because Ellis can only play 2B and Weeks can only play 2B

I think there’s a good chance Weeks is optioned back to AAA next week, having gotten “a taste”. I also think there’s a chance Ellis is released or traded next week. But very unlikely, IMO, is that they ever both appear on the roster at the same time.

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by Nico on Jun 11, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unlikely, I agree.

The only way would be if the A’s reduced relievers by one. Not seeing that happen.

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by justANotherAsFan on Jun 11, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Giants just picked up Bill Hall, so they are out as suitors for Ellis

After I saw Sanchez’s injury last night, I thought to myself “Hmmm…”

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by cuppingmaster on Jun 11, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

they could have shifted Crawford to second, Tejada to SS, and Sandoval to 3rd

That would be one ugly defense (and still is — Hall is butcher)

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by cuppingmaster on Jun 11, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's okay

I’d rather not see Ellis ever wearing a Giants uniform anyway.

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by Flashfire on Jun 11, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

That would break my Ellis-loving heart.

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by svetlanamonsoon on Jun 11, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can't even stand to think about that possibility.

ELLIS WILL BE AN OAKLAND A FOREVER AND IF ANYONE TRIES TO SAY OTHERWISE, I WILL NOT LISTEN TO THEM.

by whiteshoes40 on Jun 11, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Time to get rid of Ellis.

I hope somebody wants him.

"I heard the reason Geren never played Powell was so he could have someone around to fetch him a cushion."- UrgentMirth

by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 11, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

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by Jessse on Jun 11, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ellis does not have potential to be a backup utility infielder

Do not understand this statement at all. Of course he does.

by PL78 on Jun 11, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

How So?

The guy has almost never played anywhere but second.

by Jason James on Jun 11, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Post 'The Crosby Incident'.

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by OldhamA on Jun 11, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just like Rosales, huh?

Are you seriously telling me its completely outside of his means to lodge 1 inning at SS, 3B or 1B? This isn’t Chris Carter we asking to play SS here.

by PL78 on Jun 11, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

one inning sure

Not that he has played anywhere but 2nd since 2006.

Anyone could play an inning somewhere, but you need to be able to sit a position player for a game here and there

Put a bird on it

by Future Ed on Jun 11, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, actually...

We have no idea how Ellis’s arm would hold up as a utility infielder. All we know is that his arm was significantly weakened after the Crosby blitzkrieg. It may be he can’t be a utility infielder; it may be that at this point he can.

Unless there’s somebody here with inside information, none of us know.

by richwol1 on Jun 11, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

One inning isn't a "utility infielder"

We’re talking about playing a whole game at those positions fairly often to spell others.

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by Flashfire on Jun 11, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right, I'm confused

Are we saying we want Rosales instead of Ellis? Or Ellis instead of Weeks?

Conor Jackson should be the one off the team.

by PL78 on Jun 11, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ellis isn't long for this team at this point in his career anyway

And Rosales is probably more versatile and more likely to help in a fill-in spot than Ellis at this stage.

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by Flashfire on Jun 11, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ellis doesn't have the arm strength to make the throw

from SS or 3B. If he did, he would have been tried at either of those positions as a fill-in plenty of times in recent years. This was a result of the injury where he collided with Crosby and was out for a year. (Before that, Ellis did play SS sometimes.) It is a well-established reality, tried and tested by the team.

I think he could handle 1B just fine, but that’s not the spot you need a utility infielder for.

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by iglew on Jun 11, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ellis played SS in college

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by OldhamA on Jun 11, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Does anyone REALLY know that Ellis can't make the throws anymore? He has played

2b, because he was the best option, not that they didn’t want him to be a utility man. That injury was several years ago and pitchers have that same injury and go back to throwing 90.

by theblackpearl on Jun 11, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't REALLY know, but

it seems very unlikely to me that the team hasn’t thought of trying it out every now and then. Or for that matter, Ellis himself would have a sense of how his arm is doing. Players often fool around with other positions in practice just for fun, and Ellis isn’t dumb. If he could handle SS in an emergency, I think he would mention it.

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by iglew on Jun 11, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

We do know, because Ellis and the team have confirmed it repeatedly.

The injury ended his capacity to make throws from SS or 3B.

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by Nico on Jun 11, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weeks can play a bit of OF,

but I do think that he cannot play SS or 3B.

by sums95 on Jun 11, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Coco And Weeks Can Stay Healthy,

Then we’ll have two speedy catalysts who can get on base.

by Jason James on Jun 11, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

weeks's fielding may not be as good as ellis's BUT

we will get o many more balls than ellis currently does. that makes up for it. no way ellis would have gotten the runner on that godfrey deflection…. he simply wouldn’t have gotten to the ball in time or at all.

by heartstopper on Jun 11, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sure it's not true

If what you have is a ground ball and what you need is for the 2Bman to get to it, you’ll want Ellis not Weeks.

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by Nico on Jun 11, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Weeks can play the outfield and Ellis can play first base

Then either Jackson or De Jesus can easily be on the trading block.

by richwol1 on Jun 11, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would like to see Weeks transition to CF, if his arm is stronger than Coco's

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by mikev on Jun 11, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because then we might get 1 HR from our 1Bman!

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by Nico on Jun 12, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn't paying as much attention to the radio last night

But didn’t I hear there was a point in the game when the A’s played the infield back with a runner at third, and less than 2 outs?

And didn’t that result in a ground out/run scored that would have been 2 if the infield was in?

That I like

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by Future Ed on Jun 11, 2011 9:34 AM PDT reply actions  

Yes. Good point.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jun 11, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking on behalf of Dunderhead Mules...

Bob Geren resents that comment.

Weeks should stay and Ellis should come in as a late inning replacement. These next few months could be huge for Weeks and Ellis should be the man to help him. Weeks is the future and it is exciting.

I haven’t seen enough of Sizemore other than to say a change in scenery was probably good for him and if Gallego can teach him to " stay within himself"…(I don’t know where he would be otherwise) , maybe he stays on at 3rd. I still like what Rosales has to offer.

You don’t win Mgr of the Year too easily. Melvin is a plus manager and his demeanor fits this team well. Let’s hope he can show the leadership we have been crying for.

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by Gerard on Jun 11, 2011 9:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Right, they'd have to decide to carry Rosales and Ellis

behind Barton, Weeks, Penny, Sizemore, which seems unlikely — though having Ellis work with Weeks for 90 games would be awesome.

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by Nico on Jun 11, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

It makes it tougher yet to get rid of a reliever when...

our starters are not going deeper into the games. This puts more emphasis on what the team will do with Ellis. The season is still early enough that if the offense can afford his quiet bat then maybe he stays. But if the reason the offense is productive due to Weeks’ presence, then this might get interesting.
Do we need Sizemore and Rosales? If not then one of them will head back to Sac.

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by Gerard on Jun 11, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

fine then... get rid of a starter

when they don’t go deep into a game they can go on 4days rest. only kidding of course. though they could play some numbers games with a pitcher and sizemore/rosales being sent down to AAA for just a few games and being brought back up though the allstar break

by heartstopper on Jun 11, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Audio from Vince on Sizemore double

Here’s a link to the mlb.com game summary. Toward the end, they use the radio calls for the key hits in the 9th-inning comeback.

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=15765149&topic_id=8879974&c_id=mlb

by RLangford on Jun 11, 2011 9:44 AM PDT reply actions  

You have to listen to the announcer's squeeeakkk on the call

It’s hilarious!

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by Gerard on Jun 11, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

WOW.

I’m really impressed. That was one hell of a call, and it sure as hell was better than Glen’s.

by danmerqury on Jun 11, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Glen is not very good at his job.

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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 11, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

meh. Vince is spiking short term because of last night's call and his rant about Geren on firing day.

I still give him a C- at best as a broadcaster.

"I heard the reason Geren never played Powell was so he could have someone around to fetch him a cushion."- UrgentMirth

by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 11, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

as someone said last night

he is good at excitement and interesting tidbits, he is not as good at letting you know what is happening on the field. Must better suited for TV methinks

Put a bird on it

by Future Ed on Jun 11, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he's still not very good.

But that DEFINITELY raised his stock in my eyes.

by danmerqury on Jun 11, 2011 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fantastic!

missed the call – just listened, still smiling!

by my_cat_max on Jun 11, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got chills

He sounded SO into it!

Also loved Sizemore’s straight gangster vibe at 2nd, no celebrating, LIKE A BOSS.

by PL78 on Jun 11, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I want to make Vince's voice cracking into a ringtone

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by Englishmajor on Jun 11, 2011 1:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

SuSlu has a nice detailed update on Melvin's forthrightness, hidden in an article about Harden

link

It seems like he is rapidly figuring out a lineup that makes sense. Especially interesting that he’s hinted at a CoJax/Swingles platoon. Since he appears to be able to actually read stats and understand them, I’m guessing he will want to play CoJax every time the A’s face a LH starter, and sit either of Barton or Sweeney on those days.

And Powell’s already on notice he will play Sunday. I’m sure pretty sure Geren would have had Powell going today even though it’s a LH on the mound for the Sox.

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by justANotherAsFan on Jun 11, 2011 9:49 AM PDT reply actions  

WHY? What has Barton done to deserve ANY playing time?

Has it been his stellar play in the field, or his mighty bat?

Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!

by FaStRmAn on Jun 11, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

You want to throw out his career numbers because of 55 or 60 games?

I’m tired of this argument.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 11, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

he looks better in the #6 spot

much more aggressive…. not taking all those strikes then K-ing

by heartstopper on Jun 11, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sometimes

I really have to appreciate the mountain you guys are trying to climb.

by RLangford on Jun 11, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm amazed

Barton has had exactly ONE good full season.

One. That’s not a career. That’s one season. A lot of players have one or two good seasons then fade when the league figures them out and they can’t compensate.

The jury is still out on Barton. The only reason he remains in the major leagues is because he walks a lot. But he also strikes out a lot, and it happens with guys on base. And because he walks so much, he doesn’t drive in many runs, even with guys on base.

by richwol1 on Jun 11, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, this "He strikes out a lot" thing is getting to be annoying

Last year he was 79th in the Majors in strikeouts, 35th in the AL. He was 2nd in the Majors in walks, 1st in the AL.

So far this year he’s 85th in the Majors in strikeouts, 38th in the AL. He’s still 15th in the Majors in walks, 12th in the AL.

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by Flashfire on Jun 11, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but he stricks out a lot.

(hehehe)

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by Tutu-late on Jun 11, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes...

…and plays a lotbetter than many others

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by Tutu-late on Jun 11, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

he is a good defender and gets on base at the league average pace, unlike his teammates

and he has reverse platoon spits, which is what RRS is referring to.

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by Future Ed on Jun 11, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're right. It's against RH that Barton has been struggling. My bad.

So, CoJax/Sweeney platoon, just fine. No need to involve Barton. It would be nice if someone who’s hitting better against RH pitching than Barton, and who could play 1B could spell him once in a while. . .

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by justANotherAsFan on Jun 11, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

How does that platoon even work between Conor Jackson and Ryan Sweeney?

If Hideki Matsui is the DH no matter what, neither Jackson nor Sweeney is probably even in the lineup to begin with.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 11, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

This, unless Coco starts sitting more often

I really can’t see that, though. Plus, Coco is still a better CF than Sweeney.

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by cuppingmaster on Jun 11, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bugsy won't let us.

I tried the same in 2010. I wanted to play Cust and E-Patsy at the same position. Eric would field the ball, and hand it to Cust for the throw back in.

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by Tutu-late on Jun 11, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

but cust had a notoriously BAD arm

voted one of the 4 worst in the AL 2 years ago

by heartstopper on Jun 11, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Compared to E-Patsy, Cust's arm looked like Ichiro's

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by Tutu-late on Jun 11, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I seriously want to see an 8-9-2 out at the plate on a sac fly attempt.

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by Nico on Jun 11, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

ball bounces off center fielder's glove into right fielder's hand, then the perfect throw.

It should probably happen once or twice before we die.

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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 11, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

The idea is that on a high fly ball to RF/CF,

Coco and Sweeney camp under it, Coco catches it and quickly flips it to Sweeney, who fires it to the plate.

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by Nico on Jun 11, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sweeney has a better arm.

But Coco has knees and range and athleticism.

by PL78 on Jun 11, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

better??? he covers more ground

has a weaker arm. one of those games in the losing streak would have had a tagging runner at third thrown out by sweeney. shallow fly to center and CoCo couldn’t get it home

by heartstopper on Jun 11, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm? I don't have my thinking cap on this morning.

I guess it becomes a 3-way platoon with DeJesus? And/or Willingham, too. Even Coco, I guess, although none of the others has his range, as I see it, but all except Willingham can throw better. So the outfield remains undefined? I ran off the rails with SuSlu’s ‘hint’ of a CoJax/Sweeney platoon.

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by justANotherAsFan on Jun 11, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think Melvin is a big fan of DeJesus.

Get used to seeing him on the bench a lot.

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by jeepers on Jun 11, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't be a terrible idea

if his value wasn’t so deflated right now. Insert any A’s position player’s name into that sentence other than Sweeney, for that matter. I’d add I’d be all about trading Sweeney himself if anyone actually wants him.

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by jeepers on Jun 11, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

With Geren at the helm, I seriously doubt Penny would be given a "...long look at the 2-spot", as Melvin has stated.

This is the difference Melvin brings to the team. Bobo changed the lineup tuu often, so that no one had time to settle in a new position. This is the affect the manager does have on a team that isn’t directly attributed to WAR, but can have meaning in the Winz/Loss columns.

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by Tutu-late on Jun 11, 2011 9:53 AM PDT reply actions  

I totally concur with your analysis, Dr. Calm and unsteady at the helm just wasn't a winning combination.

Melvin also states he was surprised to find Matsui benched against LH, when his career splits are very small. Thus, clearly, he intends to bat him full-time and he will either sink or swim.

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by justANotherAsFan on Jun 11, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

at least until the road trip to the NL parks.

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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 11, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

But of course.

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by justANotherAsFan on Jun 11, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I apologize to EnglishMajor.

I believe the proper word should have been “effect”. Mea culpa.

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by Tutu-late on Jun 11, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

iglew doesn't skeer me.

I use dictionary. com.

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by Tutu-late on Jun 11, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey now.

Are you saying I’m not nice?!

by whiteshoes40 on Jun 11, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

In comedy

you need to have three examples. Pam and Iglew were naturals. Not that they would be mean, but they are good at correcting people.

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by Future Ed on Jun 11, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not an English major, but I am a psychiatrist's daughter

And I admire Melvin’s affect in the psychological sense.

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by Englishmajor on Jun 11, 2011 1:11 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

not an English major?

I figured it was either that or you had served a term in the British Army.

"I heard the reason Geren never played Powell was so he could have someone around to fetch him a cushion."- UrgentMirth

by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 11, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think there is sufficient data to test whether

players in general do better when they are not moved around as much in the batting order. It would require some complicated tests, but I think some conclusions could be drawn. Does anyone know if this has been studied.

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by iglew on Jun 11, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

While we're all singing the praises of Sizemore

Let’s give a little credit to the guy who got him here for basically nothing

Of course it’s WAAAY to early to call Sizey a success, but Beane’s ability to pull legit players out of thin air is just amazing.

by Mattel on Jun 11, 2011 10:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Seriously.

Farquhar turned into Purcey (who we fixed), and then we flipped him for Sizemore? Hell of a series of moves.

by danmerqury on Jun 11, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

It started with a bad trade, IMO (Rajai for Farquhar and Magnuson),

and then got better with each subsequent move, until it became a very good trade (Rajai for Magnuson and Sizemore).

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by Nico on Jun 11, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

And Rajai literally was acquired for nothing

Ultimately it was Nothing for Magnussen and Sizemore

by Mattel on Jun 11, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rajai this year

-0.1 WAR in 45 games

A little bad luck there, but he’s on the wrong side of 30 now as well. Getting anything for him was gravy IMO.

by Mattel on Jun 11, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

WAR's a tricky thing to me

because it uses UZR, which everybody says needs to be over a three-year period to be valid. I’m sure Davis’ WAR is low because UZR currently hates him, though.

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by jeepers on Jun 11, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

A crappy OF for a couple of arms is not a bad trade though.

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by mikev on Jun 11, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

rajai= -0.1 WAR

Sizemore/Farquar magnuson pursey =.03!

#winning

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by Future Ed on Jun 11, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Imagine if he had passion and fire, though.

We’d probably have Pujols.

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by mikev on Jun 11, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

i dont see sizemore making any kind of lasting impact...to me he looks like a backup infielder at best.

of course, we dont have anyone better right now, so hell be starting. but i dont see him doing anything special.

by Jeezy S on Jun 11, 2011 10:28 AM PDT reply actions  

I have a weird feeling about Sizemore.

I think he’s gonna be legit. I have no logical reason why… just some vaguely psychedelic imagery involving Jim Leyland’s grave and a bunch of guys in green shirts jumping up and down.

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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 11, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sizemore had a career OPS of .881 in Triple-A so maybe he can be a pretty solid hitter.

I’d play him every day for the rest of the season.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 11, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sure he won't be great

But I think “good” shouldn’t be ruled out. It’s entirely possible the Tigers gave up on him too soon.

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by EastCoastA on Jun 11, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Tigers had no patience with him.

Partly because he wasn’t a highly touted prospect (although I think he was in their top 10) and partly because they need an offensive spark outside Cabrera, Aviles, and Martinez.

I think they moved Raburn to 2B to get his bat into the lineup, even though he’s not very good defensively at 2B.

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by OldhamA on Jun 11, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Avila :)

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by Helloooo 1st on Jun 11, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was the same story with Hannahan, if I remember correctly.

Not that I have a point or anything.

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by EddieVegas_NRAF on Jun 11, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jose Rijo

Carlos Pena, Nelson Cruz, and Carlos Gonzalez are on the phone.

Players are given up on early plenty often enough.

by RLangford on Jun 11, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same.

No real reason, but I like him. Partially because Beane has coveted him for a while.

by danmerqury on Jun 11, 2011 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Melvin quote

  What I do like is how Melvin said he was playing to win today unlike Geren who was always talking about tomorrow’s game. With that question would Geren have kept Godfrey in longer to save the bullpen for tomorrow’s game?

by Arcman on Jun 11, 2011 10:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Rosales

I’d like to see Sizemore get a string of consecutive starts at 3B. I love Rosales as a utility infielder but do not think he is starting material, certainly not at 3B.

by faninphilly on Jun 11, 2011 10:54 AM PDT reply actions  

Agreed

I mean guys can be sort of platooned in the infield, as Conor Jackson can play 3B, but I’d rather see Rosy playing middle infield every now and then, sometimes at 3B. Sizemore should play, but Weeks should too. Also, they could all get in a game at DH, give Matsui some rest.

by Jason James on Jun 11, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ditto Nico on Seizemore and weeks

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by Athletic on Jun 11, 2011 11:13 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Yes they won yesterday, and yes Melvin showed enthusiasm, but I really don't see much of a different team.

Whenever the A’s won, even for the former Bob, the guys celebrated and mobbed each other. Everyone is just glad Geren is gone, so we see what we want to see.

by theblackpearl on Jun 11, 2011 11:24 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Rotation?

Also, Jemile Weeks would’ve been the second baseman under Bob Geren as well and Scott Sizemore probably would’ve been at third base.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 11, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Geren loved Rosy though.

Doubtful Sizemore would have gotten much of a look.

Also: Penningtons surge shows that he might have been one of the players Geren lost.

by PL78 on Jun 11, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

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by OldhamA on Jun 11, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not one of them

But some people would take umbrage with the “SSS” and the notion of of “streaky” as stated.

I’d rather like to think Penny was bummed out hitting 9th all the time, and is now stepping up into the spotlight. Some people need to be thrown into greatness, cant do that hitting 9th.

by PL78 on Jun 11, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

rosey is at best

days on one day off as his foot isn’t entirely healed

by heartstopper on Jun 11, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, dude.

That is one HELL of a conclusion you’re drawing from three freaking games. It’s like every small sample size warning ever made, wrapped up in a shell of amateur psychoanalysis.

by danmerqury on Jun 11, 2011 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

prolly wouldn't have won yesterday

and Melvin has a positive effect on everyone’s demeanor which improves the team’s chance of winning

by heartstopper on Jun 11, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.
Everyone is just glad Geren is gone, so we see what we want to see.

Geren gone is what I want to see.

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by iglew on Jun 11, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

True enough

The A’s celebrated under Geren as well. And, yes, they would have celebrated under a blow up doll yesterday. And sure they would have won again under Geren. Fans are obviously transferring their feelings to the players. But that’s not such a bad thing. I’m guessing A’s players feel differently about the team just as we do.

by RLangford on Jun 11, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

My thoughts

Last night’s excellent game notwithstanding, I’m really not sold on Sizemore as a viable long-term option for third base. I don’t think he has the arm to field the position, and I think his range is very average. His approach seems nice, but I think he’ll have a frustrating lack of power. With all of that said, he’s well worth a flier for what we paid to prove me wrong.

I love, love, love Jemile Weeks. I am also worried about him getting hurt, but that bat speed is something else. His triple last night didn’t look like it should have gone nearly as far as it did, the ball was way in on his hands, but he was quick enough to pull them in and drive it. His defense still needs some polish, but he has more than adequate tools to be a plus defender. He needs to stay in the show, there’s no benefit whatsoever to stunting his development against inferior talent at this stage. He’s good enough, he’s old enough, and gosh darn it, he’s wicked talented.

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by jeepers on Jun 11, 2011 11:32 AM PDT reply actions  

Because that's what this thread is all about.

Our impressions from just a couple games. Of course we might revise our opinions later with more games, but we can still talk about how it looks so far.

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by iglew on Jun 11, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

if LaRoche can be used as utility infielder

I don’t see why Ellis wouldn’t be able to handle that role

by gambler on Jun 11, 2011 11:54 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

He'll be more OK with it than being unemployed.

If he isn’t, I wish him a great retirement.

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by jeepers on Jun 11, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ellis will be traded

  There is a shortage of 2b in baseball and some playoff contenders with injuries. Ellis will be traded for a A ball prospect. Weeks would need to do a carter to be sent down.

by Arcman on Jun 11, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

he wasn't pissing

he said he didn’t need to go on the dl BUT that he understood the reasoning for it. it was a matter of bodies. luckily we called up a good body.

by heartstopper on Jun 11, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

it may be just me...

but id love to see mark ellis flipped to a real contender so he has a chance at going deep in the postseason. i think hes pretty much done being an every day effective player, but there will be someone in contention come july who would value a defensive 2nd basemen like him.

by Jeezy S on Jun 11, 2011 12:16 PM PDT reply actions  

The lineup is out courtesy of Susan Slusser.
#Athletics at #WhiteSox: Crisp cf, Pennington ss, Matsui dh, Willingham lf, Jackson rf, Sizemore 3b, Suzuki c, Barton 1b, Weeks 2b.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 11, 2011 12:39 PM PDT reply actions  

hmm, Matsui third

Odd, but it probably doesn’t matter since there’s no one who is the obvious choice there.

Sizemore is a righty hitter, right? So 4 righties in a row.

by DDroney on Jun 11, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sizemore rewarded?

Barton all the way down to 8th. Bench: DeJesus, Sweeney, Rosales, Powell…

by OaklandSi on Jun 11, 2011 12:57 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Powell tomorrow

I don’t like the fiddling, but it doesn’t matter that much

Put a bird on it

by Future Ed on Jun 11, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Powell is not really an issue

I am interested in the others, however.

by OaklandSi on Jun 11, 2011 1:04 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Lefty pitcher.

DeJesus, Sweeney both having tough time with lefties. Melvin definitely looks at career splits, he mentioned it in reference to Matsui.

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by justANotherAsFan on Jun 11, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly the lineup we need

I projected this lineup after last nights game — albeit reactionary to the way Weeks has been playing, and the awful game Coco had, I had Weeks leading off and CoCo batting 7th. Though CoCo is obviously our lead-off man. I really like this lineup, However, I guess I’m still one of the only ones left in the Ryan Sweeney camp. I think he should be playing more — regardless of splits. I also like how Melvin is going to stick with Matsui. This is basically as good as our lineup can be.

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by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Jun 11, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

And thus the DeJesus hate train continues.

Sheesh.

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by jeepers on Jun 11, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Two roster thoughts

If they wanted to keep Ellis and Rosales, why not move one of the extra outfielders that they’re always struggling to get in the lineup. It seems like there has been an imbalance all year – too many outfielders and only one infielder on the bench. Second, if they don’t keep both Ellis and Weeks, I wonder if the Giants would be interested in Ellis with the injury to Sanchez.

by sacto on Jun 11, 2011 1:14 PM PDT reply actions  

What's up with David DeJesus?

With the talk of the Swingles/CoJax platoon and DDJ being benches again, whats gunna happen to him? If Melvin is going to keep Matsui at fulltime DH to get him going, why not David, who’d be one of the more consistent player on the team when he gets out his slump? Just asking cuz he’s my favorite A, but idunno..

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by MudkipzGetHYPHY on Jun 11, 2011 1:31 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I did not finish the game.....so back in the house I fired up

ESPN for the highlights and I said to myself Yumpin Yimminy!

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by ak_A on Jun 11, 2011 1:55 PM PDT reply actions  

oh, one more thing.....since I have been not on as much with the move

will someone pass me Bob Geren’s farewell card to sign.

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by ak_A on Jun 11, 2011 1:57 PM PDT reply actions  

I already ate it.

I’ll be able to pass it on any time now.

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by Tutu-late on Jun 11, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

No kiddin'

I’m already starting to waddle like Bobo.

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by Tutu-late on Jun 11, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Corn cobs!

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by Tutu-late on Jun 11, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

yay, moar Landon!
susanslusser Susan Slusser
Melvin plans to have Powell in more often to keep Suzuki fresh. #Athletics

by whiteshoes40 on Jun 11, 2011 2:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Yay!

My life has been missing more Landon Powell. I have irrational love for Landon Powell and am not afraid to admit it.

by Joss on Jun 11, 2011 3:03 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wow, Its been so exciting to have something to watch again.

I was really starting to feel ashamed at being a rabid A’s fan.
Was finally able to catch last nights game and it was so nice to see life in the dugout.

by brian.only on Jun 11, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

.
Jane Lee
Ellis (hamstring) taking grounders at second base right now. Also looks like he’s lending Weeks some advice at the position.

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by Flashfire on Jun 11, 2011 2:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Can we just leave him on the DL all season and call him the interim fielding coach

please?

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by mikev on Jun 11, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mark Ellis keeps reaffirming my love for him.

Leslie: It's got a lot of heart.
April: That's what people always say when something sucks.
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by svetlanamonsoon on Jun 11, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

why do you love Elllis so much?

I never got it, I wonder if someone can explain it.

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by Jessse on Jun 11, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's had some good years here,

including those great years in the 2000s, plays a beautiful second base, and based on everything I’ve seen, he’s good people. Total class. And he likes it here in Oakland. I can’t not love the guy.

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by svetlanamonsoon on Jun 11, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

just enjoying the fact that bob geren is fired.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jun 11, 2011 3:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Anyone seen Mulder on ESPN?

I am secure in my heterosexuality but he is one good good lookin’dude

by easyraider on Jun 11, 2011 3:15 PM PDT reply actions  

which game, I mean?

His looks are a running joke in our house, and I want to surprise my wife.

by RLangford on Jun 11, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he does some in-studio stuff for them now.

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by mikev on Jun 11, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw him in a restaurant once

And it was like staring at the sun.

Leslie: It's got a lot of heart.
April: That's what people always say when something sucks.
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by svetlanamonsoon on Jun 11, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Neither death nor the sun can be looked at steadily"

One of the many maxims from the French neoclassicist Francois de la Rochefoucauld.

But for you:

“Neither death nor Mark Mulder can be looked at steadily.”

Or better for you:

“I’m just going to look at Mark Mulder steadily for a while now.”

by RLangford on Jun 11, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

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