What To Do About Geren and Fuentes?

Because that’s just the way the A’s are. Boring, no balls.

Something finally has to give. Imagine if Macha or Howe ever had this ho on and the reaction Beane would have had.

Didn’t he realize in baseball eventually every manager is fired and know it would come to that at some point. When he decided to hire his best friend. Hell it should have been talked about at time of hiring saying " hey odds say some I’ll fire you so don’t take it personal"

The drumbeat gets louder and louder. There is more and more second guessing. Eventually that comes to a head. Billy Beane may be needlessly loyal to Geren, but it gets to a point where his reputation becomes severely damaged. Fuentes has vocalized the problems every fan and numerous broadcasters/reporters have intonated that there is a big problem with Geren’s managerial “strategy” or lack thereof. I think Geren is on his way out, if anything the drumbeat gives Beane cover for why it had to happen.

But – why is EVERYONE reporting that Blevins was DFA’d but “still on the 40-man roster” and is “expected to end up in Sacramento”? How the heck is this possible. I thought the very definition of DFA is to remove from the 40-man roster? But aside from the A’s and Jane Lee, Stiglich too is reporting this bizarre thing.

I didn’t take this way the others did. To me, that’s him saying that he thinks Geren is off in Fantasyland, not the players are questioning him in the clubhouse. The former may be true, but that’s not nearly as bad as losing the clubhouse.

That said, I’m with what you said earlier, Dan; there’s not much to lose at this point.

I’d also like to start the list of real potential replacements for Geren. Is it Joel Skinner pretty much if Geren’s out?

but the A’s are nearing “train wreck” status, and most know it. I have, in the midst of reading countless FGN posts, always taken a step back from the emotion of losing a game I feel we should have won to look at a manager I considered to be thoughtful, reasonably intelligent (baseball-wise), and well-liked by his players. I probably would have said before this morning that there was close to a 0% chance of his firing during the season and a fairly low percentage chance of him being let go before next season, too. Really, my only complaints about Geren were that he was too docile at times when fire was called for in a particular situation (e.g. in dealing with umpires, etc.). I’ll have to admit that I was kind of in disbelief when I saw Fuentes warming in the bullpen last night—considering how many nights in a row he had worked and how many losses he had taken over a short period of time. That sort of tipped the scale for me. There seemed to be more at play than just a game decision meant to give the A’s the best chance to win. Whether Geren intended to put Fuentes in a situation that had the potential to further humiliate him, I don’t know. But it seems to me, for the very first time, that the time for change is finally here. I didn’t think that yesterday, but I do now.

baseball manager’s brains?

We know good baseball. And this isn’t it. The tarp on the third deck. The complaining. The inept managing.

Honestly, Geren manages like i used to on baseball video games. He just puts guys in any position.

No wonder the Coliseum is nearly empty.

Where’s Ziegler? He like to complain about how big the crowds are…. will anyone else speak up?

I give Geren a week or two and he’s done.

Perhaps I should leave more often.

The A’s won’t do anything, because that’s just the way it’ll work out. Maybe after this year Geren will be “let go”, but stuff won’t happen now.
Let’s keep Fuentes, though. The guy is effective, but hasn’t been used properly. Save situations, please, and let’s not see him in four straight games. Hopefully it’ll get better when Bailey returns (one thing I look forward too). Now, if Geren misuses him and messes up……..

It’s not a FAST thing like we all thought!
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Does that mean we have to wait until the end of the season before Geren is fired?

Mostly because that’s a lot of dead money for the A’s to carry, but also it’s bad for the team long-term. It’s tough enough to get free agents to play in Oakland. If the buzz is that the A’s will dump a player to show support for their numbskull manager, good players will stay away even more than they do now.

I expect Geren to be let go as soon as the A’s are eliminated from contention. July-ish?

He apparently wrote something about Geren and Fuentes

If we stopped those 2 things, we’d be in 1st place by a long way. Lets make changes to make that happen.

“In the big leagues, the manager doesn’t talk to you everyday”

Fuentes is paid to pitch. Closers often get called into tied games. They never seem to like it, I guess thinking they are above that and like to enter the game to “Hells Bells” blasting to start the ninth or something like that. Fuentes spoke out about several issues that are real and which have been noted on this board for a long time. Wolfy needs to nudge Billy to make a change; infuse some energy and excitment. Fuentes though – he should take the ball when given the ball and get batters out. He would have a lot more credibility if he were pitching well and said all this.

Cut Fuentes, his act is getting old. I have never been a fan whiny athletes. If you can’t get 3 consecutive outs that has more to do with you as opposed to the manager. And if you can’t get those outs in High Leverage situations(and he can’t), then you are both a failure at your specific job but now you are an overpaid, overly vocal failure. we got Minor League guys we could get the exact same numbers from. Buy him out and show him the door.

Fire Geren. the fact that LaRoche got nailed at the plate shows me that someone ain’t doing their homework. LaRoche was out by a solid 10 feet. the player has an excuse have not spent considerable time in the AL, the MANAGER should have known that Torii Hunter had more than enough arm to get him at the plate.
Also, why, when your reliever clearly is going thru a rough patch do you continually shove his ass out there in HIGH Leverage situations. you have to rebuild the guy’s confidence.

i want to believe that geren can do the job. but quite frankly this is the tipping point. Quite frankly someone on the team whose actual opinion matters needs to call out GEREN AND THE TEAM. unfortunately the team is so young, there is no real leader. the prime guy who could have done it and as far as i’m concerned should be named captian post hasty is dallas braden.

The best solution is for Billy to find a position in the FO for Geren, make him director of promotions or something and let him plan out next year’s bobbleheads. Let him retain a job and some semblance of dignity. No one else will hire him as a manager, so find him a slot somewhere and let the team move on under new leadership.

All of the happy talk last year about ending the season at .500 made me a little ill, as though that’s the best we can hope for. Yes, time to put this whole Geren era with its low expectations behind us.

if anything, Fuentes gets cut. Only because I believe Beane will choose his “loyalty” to Geren over Fuentes.

http://yfrog.com/h0vgilfj

“I get up in the seventh inning,” Fuentes said. "I have no idea. I didn’t stretch. If there was some sort of communication beforehand, I’d be ready, which I was. I was heated up. I was ready.

You didn’t stretch and you had no idea, but simultaneously you were heated up and ready?
This made not one lick of sense.