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We have the Bay Bridge Series this weekend against some other team whose name escapes me at the moment, but sometimes a little randomness is called for.  Especially baseball randomness.  Just for fun, pick a question (or two, or ten), and have fun with these...

1) For anyone who has been to both Wrigley Field and Fenway Park, which did you like best?

2) If you had been asked 10 years ago, would you ever have predicted that Matt Stairs would still be playing major league baseball in 2011?

3) Most useless stat... ever?

4) Was there ever a time in your life when you had a favorite baseball team other than the A's?

5) If you could play major league baseball, what would be your preferred position?

6) Other than the A's, which MLB team has the coolest uniforms?

7) Spinning off #6, what is the ugliest MLB uniform ever?

8) How would you rate Connie Mack?  Great manager and poor owner?  Great all around?  Over-rated?  Cool guy in a suit?  Old guy in a suit?

9) Greatest A's (player) disappointment?  (Someone you expected to be great, and it just didn't happen.)

10) How did the 1994-95 strike/lockout affect your fandom?

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1) For anyone who has been to both Wrigley Field and Fenway Park, which did you like best?

I’ve technically been to both, though I’ve only seen games at Wrigley. One winter I was visiting a friend in Boston and before I took the train back to NJ I walked by Fenway and ended up getting to go inside for a few minutes to take some pictures. So, Wrigley at this point.

2) If you had been asked 10 years ago, would you ever have predicted that Matt Stairs would still be playing major league baseball in 2011?

Well, no.

3) Most useless stat… ever?

Let’s go with holds.

4) Was there ever a time in your life when you had a favorite baseball team other than the A’s?

Nope.

5) If you could play major league baseball, what would be your preferred position?

First base or pitcher.

6) Other than the A’s, which MLB team has the coolest uniforms?

I kind of like the simplicity of Kansas City’s home uniform but Detroit’s is a classic as well.

7) Spinning off #6, what is the ugliest MLB uniform ever?

Probably the San Diego brown and yellow or any of the all red ones worn by the Indians and Rangers in the 70s. I figured the ones by the White Sox the season they wore shorts was obvious as well. If we’re talking current, none of them are all that bad to me.

8) How would you rate Connie Mack? Great manager and poor owner? Great all around? Over-rated? Cool guy in a suit? Old guy in a suit?

Dead guy in a suit, now. He was a legend, though.

9) Greatest A’s (player) disappointment? (Someone you expected to be great, and it just didn’t happen.)

Too many to list here. Van Poppel, Grieve are just a couple.

10) How did the 1994-95 strike/lockout affect your fandom?

Not at all, and I was at A’s game that was the very last one to finish before the strike.

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by Flashfire on May 20, 2011 6:20 PM PDT reply actions  

You beat me to it. :-p

I'm beginning to believe that Bud Selig wants to die of old age before he has to make a decision regarding Oakland vs San Jose.

by UncleLeo on May 20, 2011 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know... I feel so inadequate.

I'm beginning to believe that Bud Selig wants to die of old age before he has to make a decision regarding Oakland vs San Jose.

by UncleLeo on May 20, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I forgot about the White Sox shorts... ugh!

I'm beginning to believe that Bud Selig wants to die of old age before he has to make a decision regarding Oakland vs San Jose.

by UncleLeo on May 20, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll start...

1) For anyone who has been to both Wrigley Field and Fenway Park, which did you like best?

Been to Wrigley, but not Fenway, so I can’t compare.

2) If you had been asked 10 years ago, would you ever have predicted that Matt Stairs would still be playing major league baseball in 2011?

Always liked Matt, but no, I would never have thought he’d still be playing today.

3) Most useless stat… ever?

GWRBI. George Brett once said it was useless also… except at contract negotiation time.

4) Was there ever a time in your life when you had a favorite baseball team other than the A’s?

Was a Dodger fan from age 6 to about age 9. Young and impressionable. :-p

5) If you could play major league baseball, what would be your preferred position?

Catcher!

6) Other than the A’s, which MLB team has the coolest uniforms?

Detroit Tigers home unis, hands down.

7) Spinning off #6, what is the ugliest MLB uniform ever?

Late 70s Pirates, mid-70s Padres, early 80s Astros… so many from which to choose.

8) How would you rate Connie Mack? Great manager and poor owner? Great all around? Over-rated? Cool guy in a suit?

This one takes some thought. In spite of his overall losing record, I think he was a very good manager. Other forces, many of which were self-inflicted, but weren’t necessarily on-the-field related, factored into his losing record.

9) Greatest A’s (player) disappointment? (Someone you expected to be great, and it just didn’t happen.)

Mitchell Page. Ok, one very good year, one almost year, then nada I really had high hopes for him.

10) How did the 1994-95 strike/lockout affect your fandom?

I did a semi-boycott for about 4 to 5 years. Only went to two games in that time, and even then only because my son won free tickets in a raffle. By the time it was over I had really hard feeling toward both sides.

I'm beginning to believe that Bud Selig wants to die of old age before he has to make a decision regarding Oakland vs San Jose.

by UncleLeo on May 20, 2011 6:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Awesome post, UncleLeo!

I’m running ou the door, but I’ll answer these later and REC it now!

Save it for the fast money round, Paddy.

by Leopold Bloom on May 20, 2011 6:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Awesome Idea

1) Never been to either, so undecided
2) Not a chance
3) Most useless, yet also my favorite: lead off homeruns
4) Never
5) 2nd base (first left-handed 2nd baseman ever!)
6) Always liked the Royals
7) One word: camoflage
8) Can’t fault a guy with that many world series victories
9) Rich Harden, so tantalizing, never healthy. Makes me wonder what could have been.
10) It didn’t. I remember being 7 years old and going to see scrubs in A’s uniforms playing scrubs in Giants uniforms and enjoying myself

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by Trojanbrand on May 20, 2011 7:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Good call on Harden.

I'm beginning to believe that Bud Selig wants to die of old age before he has to make a decision regarding Oakland vs San Jose.

by UncleLeo on May 21, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

K.

1. Haven’t been to either.
2. No
3. Reliver Hold
4. No
5. CF
6. Reds sleeveless w/ red undershirt
7. White Sox Shorts
8. Cool old guy
9. Todd van Poppel
10. It didn’t at all.

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by mikev on May 20, 2011 10:54 PM PDT reply actions  

1. I’ve been to Wrigley, and I liked it, but not Fenway.
2. No
3. gotta be holds
4. I used to like the A’s and Giants equally.
5. Pitcher AND Catcher, like Ted Radcliffe.
6. HOME- Pirates, ROAD- Twins ALT- Royals THROWBACK- Dodgers
7. Toronto Blue Jays 2007-present
8. I actually WAS Connie Mack a couple of lives ago. Fine man, great manager,
        mediocre businessman at best.
9. Adam Piatt
10. I had grown away from baseball and into music during the early 90’s and the strike sealed the deal. I got my A’s fandom back in ’99, but my Giants love never returned.

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GO KNEEL IN THE CORNER!" - elcroata

by Gaijin_Suketto on May 21, 2011 2:32 AM PDT reply actions  

Let Me Think....

1) Haven’t been to either, but I would love to go to both
2) Nope
3) Hmmm…….. not sure
4) Not really
5) Pitcher or 3B
6) Red Sox Alternate Home (the red one)
7) Not sure… camouflage sucks, but really most stuff that isn’t actually real (worn in the MLB). A lot of it is total trash.
8) Great guy. Absolutely amazing that he stayed in business for 50 years
9) Van Poppel is one, but there are a bunch
10) Not much, though it did disappoint me. I mean, I was just a kid, so I was just sad that they didn’t play.

by Jason James on May 21, 2011 9:39 AM PDT reply actions  

Okay!

1) For anyone who has been to both Wrigley Field and Fenway Park, which did you like best?

Wrigley wins hands down for me, more so for who plays in it and even more, who watches in it. Steve Goodman is significantly less douchey than Neil Diamond. Red Sox fans just straight up suck. Every time I go to the Coliseum when the Red Sox are in town, I have to practice restraint in order to not get into a fight. That does not happen with any other group of fans. So in the end, they could play in effing Valhalla and I would not care.

2) If you had been asked 10 years ago, would you ever have predicted that Matt Stairs would still be playing major league baseball in 2011?

If you would have asked me if Stairs would be alive in a decade ten years ago, I’d have put the odds at even.

3) Most useless stat… ever?

Number of people slept with.

4) Was there ever a time in your life when you had a favorite baseball team other than the A’s?

No. I grew up an A’s fan in the middle of Indiana in the middle of them sucking in the early middle 80s.

5) If you could play major league baseball, what would be your preferred position?

Center field. It seems like the funnest.

6) Other than the A’s, which MLB team has the coolest uniforms?

Royals powder blues. I always liked the Twins unis, too.

7) Spinning off #6, what is the ugliest MLB uniform ever?

Those camo alts the Padres wear are hideous.

8) How would you rate Connie Mack? Great manager and poor owner? Great all around? Over-rated? Cool guy in a suit? Old guy in a suit?

Obviously a legend, but toward the end of that run, the fans had to think of him like Raiders fans think of Al Davis now: “Jesus, we love you, but wouldn’t you just die already?”

9) Greatest A’s (player) disappointment? (Someone you expected to be great, and it just didn’t happen.)

Bobby Crosby. His great rookie season, mixed with the subsequent disappointment and the departure of Miggy….damn. Especially painful watching Miggy in orange…

10) How did the 1994-95 strike/lockout affect your fandom?

My brother and me, who were season ticket holders prior to the strike, did not attend a single game until 1997. It was an intentional boycott. I would also say my brother’s fandom never recovered. He was an unrepentant baseball junkie prior to the strike and he has never bounced back. He never bought season tickets again. In fact, has baseball ever said they were sorry for that shite?

Save it for the fast money round, Paddy.

by Leopold Bloom on May 21, 2011 10:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Nice write-up.

I used to like and root for the Red Sox until they beat us in the playoffs earlier this past decade. I accepted that they beat us… or that we beat ourselves. I could live with that. But, their fans were such pricks about the whole thing… and still are in general.

I'm beginning to believe that Bud Selig wants to die of old age before he has to make a decision regarding Oakland vs San Jose.

by UncleLeo on May 21, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

re: Connie Mack question...

…Does anybody think his overall losing record as a manager detracts from his legacy?

I'm beginning to believe that Bud Selig wants to die of old age before he has to make a decision regarding Oakland vs San Jose.

by UncleLeo on May 21, 2011 11:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, probably.

I mean, the reality is the reason he has both those records is because he coached for fifty years. He should have both those records. But, yeah, having more losses than wins kinda tarnishes it.

Save it for the fast money round, Paddy.

by Leopold Bloom on May 22, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

interesting to see what other ANs have to say.

1) For anyone who has been to both Wrigley Field and Fenway Park, which did you like best? Did the tour of Fenway. It was interesting to see. Plus its the only park with a ground rule triple. Been outside of Wrigley (no game or tour the day I was there) so all I got to do was look through the gate at the field as they were washing things down at the end of last season.

2) If you had been asked 10 years ago, would you ever have predicted that Matt Stairs would still be playing major league baseball in 2011?
HA

3) Most useless stat… ever?
my GPA
4) Was there ever a time in your life when you had a favorite baseball team other than the A’s?
no
5) If you could play major league baseball, what would be your preferred position?
outfield, sucked in little league so thats where I got stuck.

6) Other than the A’s, which MLB team has the coolest uniforms?
George Costanza’s Cotton yankee uniforms. Paul O’Neill: ‘I never dreamed anything could be so soft and fluffy.’"

7) Spinning off #6, what is the ugliest MLB uniform ever?
Astros rainbow jerseys and not a fan of the Padres cameo.

8) How would you rate Connie Mack? Great manager and poor owner? Great all around? Over-rated? Cool guy in a suit? Old guy in a suit?
more sucessful at the game than I could ever wish to be both managing and playing.

9) Greatest A’s (player) disappointment? (Someone you expected to be great, and it just didn’t happen.) Van Poppel and Grant Desme, kinda wish he’d take the “well there are only so many years I can play this game, I have to try now and if it doesn’t work out I can follow my other dream then” approach.

10) How did the 1994-95 strike/lockout affect your fandom?
once the Sharks came into existence I hit a “baseball is boring!!!” phase, I didn’t get out of that phase til 2001. So it really didn’t affect me.

by buddahead9 on May 21, 2011 12:29 PM PDT reply actions  

My answers

1) For anyone who has been to both Wrigley Field and Fenway Park, which did you like best?
Haven’t been
2) If you had been asked 10 years ago, would you ever have predicted that Matt Stairs would still be playing major league baseball in 2011?
Stairs could always swing it, so this isn’t entirely surprising
3) Most useless stat… ever?
catchers’ ERA
4) Was there ever a time in your life when you had a favorite baseball team other than the A’s?
I wouldn’t say favorite, but I watched a lot of Braves’ baseball on TBS when I was a kid. Still have a soft spot for them especially with Huddy there.
5) If you could play major league baseball, what would be your preferred position?
Pitcher
6) Other than the A’s, which MLB team has the coolest uniforms?
I like the “old style” Twins unis they wear in Target Field
7) Spinning off #6, what is the ugliest MLB uniform ever?
Mid 1980s White Sox unis. Don’t believe me? Click here
8) How would you rate Connie Mack? Great manager and poor owner? Great all around? Over-rated? Cool guy in a suit? Old guy in a suit?
Was around for 50 years. Must have done something right.
9) Greatest A’s (player) disappointment? (Someone you expected to be great, and it just didn’t happen.)
Ariel Prieto, Ben Grieve, Bobby Crosby, Dan Johnson
10) How did the 1994-95 strike/lockout affect your fandom?
Not in the slightest. I even went to a few exhibition games at the Coli with the replacement players.

"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli

by cuppingmaster on May 21, 2011 1:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Dan. Johnson.

Save it for the fast money round, Paddy.

by Leopold Bloom on May 22, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cool Post, I rec!

1) I’ve been to neither, but about Wrigley: remember that Dodger Dogs to Fenway Franks book from about 25 years ago? Dude went to all 26 (at the time) ballparks, critiqued each one. The pre-Mt. Douchebag Coli scored quite well, thank you Mr. Haas & Son…anyway, Wrigley- the author managed to get up on one of the bleacher rooftops, thanks to a clueless tenant. The other occupants vibed him out pretty hard at first, as they didn’t cotton to unattended and un-vouched-for strangers on their roof. He managed to convince them of the legitimacy of his project, and they chilled out on him after a few innings. I assume that these days those rooftop seats are generating revenue for the landlords, the Cubs, or both. Do the tenants now have to buy a ticket to go up on their own damn roof? Hope I’m wrong, but I bet they do!

2) Oh, hell no! But I tell you, it makes this middle-aged tub of guts weep with joy to see him doing it.

3) Well, GWRBI. Except for the fact that McGwire is the all-time leader (right?), I don’t miss it. There may be such a thing as “clutch hitting”, but this was no way to measure it. Crude and pointless. As to current stats, is this “Hold” nonsense the best metric we can come up with for middle relievers? I think something having to do with inherited runners, weighted by base/out scenario, would make more sense. But I suck at math, and can barely operate a computer.

4) No. I have never been unfaithful. Feels good to be able to say that about something.

5) LOOGY. I’m totally serious. I always thought that the Billyball-era bullpen got a bad rap, mostly thanks to Billy and Art Fowler. Lacey could have closed, Jones and Beard could have set him up, and Minetto could have loogy’d. It might have worked. The infield was as bad as advertised, though…

6) Detroit, for the tradition and elegant simplicity. Cards in the Other League for similar reasons. Padres camo is the worst thing ever. Seattle Pilots… you guys do know you’re not actually going to be flying a plane, right? Oh, and the orange Gnats unis from the late 70’s. Fuck the Giants.

7) Oh, guess I got a little carried away just now with #6…

8) If it weren’t for Mr. Mack, there would be no Athletics franchise as we know it today. There would still have been an AL team in Philly, probably called the Athletics, but you know what I’m getting at here. Dude ran the show for over half a Century, including the Great Depression. I’ll cut him a little slack on the won/loss record.

9) Ariel Prieto, the Cuban Hideki Irabu. Craig Mitchell, the American Craig Mitchell.

10) Squeak “The Little Bitch” Scolari of the Milwaukee Beers once said to his teammates something along the lines of, “Rip on me fourteen or fifteen more times, and I’m out of here!” That’s my relationship with baseball in a nutshell.

Damn, that was fun. Thanks!

"I don't throw the first punch. I throw the second four." -Billy Martin

by CmdrKhraanik on May 21, 2011 1:18 PM PDT reply actions  

I miss your old sig

"Once you go Bed....everything else is dead." - Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli

by cuppingmaster on May 21, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

I haven’t been able to resist the temptation to change it every time I run across a quote I really like. “Heaven is a place where no one throws a knuckleball” -Gus Triandos. That was gonna be the next one. But I miss the DS9 one as well. You may have convinced me…

Stuck at work. No game for moi.

For the record, I know there were no LOOGYs in 1980. None that I can remember, anyway. Wanted to pre-empt, in case anyone called me on it.

Enjoy the game, folks. I’m watching in spirit. In reality, I’m making ceramic tile. Alone. On a Saturday. While there’s a freaking game on…

"I don't throw the first punch. I throw the second four." -Billy Martin

by CmdrKhraanik on May 21, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Radio?

I'm beginning to believe that Bud Selig wants to die of old age before he has to make a decision regarding Oakland vs San Jose.

by UncleLeo on May 21, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah. Gotcha.

I subscribe to MLB’s Gameday for $20/yr, but am not always around a computer to take advantage of it.

I'm beginning to believe that Bud Selig wants to die of old age before he has to make a decision regarding Oakland vs San Jose.

by UncleLeo on May 21, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've pony-ed up for MLBXI the last few years. Spendy, but cool.

Come on guys, score some runs!

Speaking of disappointments, I forgot to mention Willie Adams and Steve Chitren.

"I don't throw the first punch. I throw the second four." -Billy Martin

by CmdrKhraanik on May 21, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, yeah. Good call.

That ghastly D-Rays logo looks like it was cut from a sheet of mylar. The last time I saw something that ugly, it was killing Steve Irwin. (too soon?)

"I don't throw the first punch. I throw the second four." -Billy Martin

by CmdrKhraanik on May 21, 2011 10:43 PM PDT reply actions  

just 2 answers

3) Worst Stat: The Hold Just something fatuous.
9) Biggest disappointment: Harden So many injuries.

by MobiusKlein on May 23, 2011 11:38 AM PDT reply actions  

I'll take a shot

1) For anyone who has been to both Wrigley Field and Fenway Park, which did you like best?

Been to Fenway several times. Great place, but I hate their fans. So I’ll vote Wrigley blind.

2) If you had been asked 10 years ago, would you ever have predicted that Matt Stairs would still be playing major league baseball in 2011?

If you’d said 2005, I’d have said probably not, let alone 2011.

3) Most useless stat… ever?

Saves. So bogus in so many ways, and dictates so many late game decisions.

4) Was there ever a time in your life when you had a favorite baseball team other than the A’s?

No. I went to the first Oakland A’s game ever as a very small boy and have been a fan my whole life.

5) If you could play major league baseball, what would be your preferred position?

Center field—played it as a kid. Incredibly fun.

6) Other than the A’s, which MLB team has the coolest uniforms?

Oakland Raiders (default answer for all uni questions, regardless of sport named).

7) Spinning off #6, what is the ugliest MLB uniform ever?

Astros in the ’80s.

8) How would you rate Connie Mack? Great manager and poor owner? Great all around? Over-rated? Cool guy in a suit? Old guy in a suit?

Racist and rich, I’m guessing. So not so cool.

9) Greatest A’s (player) disappointment? (Someone you expected to be great, and it just didn’t happen.)

So many—but I’ll go with Chavez; these last few years were heartbreaking. Greatest single moment of disappointment was Giambi on Letterman doing the Top 10.

10) How did the 1994-95 strike/lockout affect your fandom?

Not at all. I wasn’t really living with any illusions about the players or the game before or after.

by RLangford on May 24, 2011 5:28 PM PDT reply actions  

1. Been to Wrigley, but not Fenway. Game at Wrigley was rained out, though; quite the disappointment.
3. Pitcher Wins
5. I played CF and 1B, some 2B, pitched some. Loved running in the outfield, feeling that rush of power on the mound, picking it down at first base. Don’t really have an arm, though, so I guess first base.
2, 6-10. Too young to answer satisfactorily. I defer to better judgment.

Adoptive father of Jose Casilla.

by dregarx on May 25, 2011 1:52 AM PDT reply actions  

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