The Weaver and the Factory Maid: A's Sewn Up by Angels' Ace, Lose 5-0
by emperor nobody on Apr 25, 2011 9:32 PM PDT
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You know you pitched a good game when you put the opposing team's coaches to sleep on the bench.
Jered Weaver, uh, loomed large.
Can we just forget about this game? Let's just say it was the most mismatched one of the year -- Jered Weaver looked like he could have thrown the ball behind his back and got the A's out tonight -- and just let it go, OK? If our boys make it a habit of making so-so pitchers look like Cy Young, when they run into dominance such as that which Weaver had on display this evening they end up looking like they should be going up to bat swinging a bowl of Udon.
A visit to the A's bat rack tonight yielded nuthin' but noodles.
Gio Gonzalez (2-2) went 5 and was shaky from the onset of the second inning tonight, not that he could have done a thing but pitch a perfect game to keep us in this one. The Angels had all they'd need within six pitches of the start of that frame, with Howard Kendrick's single plating a pair. You could almost hear the sound of a million remotes clicking over to the Sharks game as soon as those runs crossed the plate, and if the A's are ever going to see a resurgence of their product it would certainly help if their fanbase wasn't essentially justified in losing all hope as soon as the other team scores a run.
Wait, is that my contact lens?
There isn't much more I could say that wouldn't make you wanna cough up your cookies, so I will just say that Weaver (6-0) gave a complete game command performance -- I think he threw about 19 pitches total for the game -- and Coco Crisp remained roasting hot with a 3-for-4 night that went for naught. The A's mounted their usual teA'se in the ninth, putting two on with one out, but it was strictly Carole King at that point. Anyhoo, we do it all again tomorrow night when Brandon McCarthy takes on rookie Tyler "I hope he sucks as bad as Facebook" Chatwood at 7pm... look for Danbot with game threads around then and forget this miserable display ever happened.
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I will say this in the A's "defense"
King Felix and Jered Weaver, when they’re on their game, will beat anyone — you just have to hope to catch them when they’re not at their best (and then if you do, you have to be able to capitalize). But those two guys were at their best this week; they would have dominated anyone. It sucks, but it happens, and the only way around it is to win the other games.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
In the A's "defense"...
….yes, in the last 10 days, they have been dominated by Felix and Weaver, who can and do beat anyone. However, in this same span of time they have also been shut out by PHIL F***CKING COKE!!!! and some 14 year old kid in Seattle making his 3rd major league start. How can we “defend” this???
There is but one possible conclusion one can arrive at when one soberly observes that his favorite baseball team has been shut out 4 times in about a week: The entire Oakland lineup sucks donkey balls. Until we get some hitters that can actually produce the occasional run (God forbid!!!), this team will continue to hover around the edge of complete irrelevance.
There—I’ve said it. I feel much better now.
by kitoko on Apr 25, 2011 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Notice I don't defend tanking against Vargas (game 2) or Coke.
Those are the games the A’s needed to get. But there was no avenue to win tonight’s game. Weaver was dealing and he’s good enough that when he’s dealing you’re not gonna do much no matter who you are.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
That itself is a bad sign for this team.
The hitters can’t compete against the top tier starters in the AL.
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Again, "when he’s dealing you’re not gonna do much no matter who you are."
Tonight wasn’t an example of why the A’s can’t compete. Other days, unfortunately, have been, but not tonight.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
where is the line between "he was dealing"
and “the A’s offense is bad?”
I get that felix and pineda and Weaver are good pitchers, but they are not invisible. At some point you need to beat them.
Put a bird on it
This is the line
Weaver was dealing beyond belief. Just give it up for him he’s really really awesome. We had zero chance of winning this game. King Felix, Pineda, Weaver & Haren within about a weeks’ span? Yikes.
The good thing is that its a long year and they will all slump and have rough patches like any other team, I’d rather they be devastating in April and May than in August and September.
This
These are the dudes we’ll have faced after this series:
Felix x 2
Buerhle
Pineda
Verlander
Weaver
Haren
Buchholz
Yikes indeed. Honestly, that we’re only 1 game under is pretty lucky.
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by cuppingmaster on Apr 26, 2011 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions
A really good team should win at least 3 of those games
We’ve beaten Verlander and Buehrle. Now we need to beat Haren.
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Apr 26, 2011 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Haren's always been hittable
I think we can do it.
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by cuppingmaster on Apr 26, 2011 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Buehrle doesnt belong, but Danks and Romero probably should be added.
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Apr 26, 2011 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions
who do you think this team is going to face in the playoffs if they make it
it’s good pitcher after good pitcher
Chris Carter is the next Hank Aaron right?
by streetisclosedin08 on Apr 26, 2011 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions
We wouldn't face the slegnA most likely, and definitely not the Mariners
So that takes out Felix and Pineda, and maybe Haren and Weaver. Right now, I’d rather face really any other 1-2 punches than any of those guys.
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by cuppingmaster on Apr 26, 2011 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
CC + Burnett/New Guy, Lester + Beckett/Buchholz, Buehrle + Danks,
Verlander + Scherzer, Lewis + Wilson
All these look pretty tough to me
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Apr 26, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Colby Lewis ain't scaring anyone right now
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by cuppingmaster on Apr 26, 2011 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions
You can say that again. He should right himself if he's healthy
but if he doesn’t I have to believe they’re going to bring in someone from outside the organization or promote Perez. A rotation of Wilson, Holland, Harrison, Ogando and Hunter isn’t scary at all
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Apr 26, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I had to endure that with my slegnA friends
who did not rub it in.
Weaver totally owned a bunch of bad hitters. The entire infield were worthless.
I even called the two pop ups to end the game before they happened.
Barton, Ellis, Pennington, Kouz and Kurt were 0 for 10,000.
Mike is right, our hitters cannot compete with top tier starters. And the defense was pathetic.
You have to give it to Weaver, these guys were way overmatched.
Special mention to Mark Ellis, Barton and Suzuki. I believe I could hit better blindfolded and it’s not just that they faced Weaver, Barton is right, he is not seeing the ball because he looks awful at the plater. I thought he was safe in the 8th inning but that was or would have been an accidental hit anyway.
I do not have slegnA friends
…the minute they pronounced their undying allegiance to the slegnA, they would cease to be my friends…LOL
One is a friend I have known for years
He usually is the one cussing when I have gone to a game. He was with me the game when Duchscherer was pitching and Cust made an error and we were down like 5-0 or whatever and came back to win easy.
Wow....a blast from the past...
…a game in which we trailed, yet came from behind to win. I wonder when the A’s will again pull off such a marvelous feat…maybe 2016?
This offense is so inept, we can save ourselves valuable time/nerves by tuning out if we get down, say, 2-0…so pathetic…
But, as I've taught TheWhizKid
You don’t want to miss the game where they come back from down 9 to win. It doesn’t happen often but you don’t want to say you walked out in the 8th.
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
It's never over till it's over
"You ain't got nothin to say, it was perfect" -Dallas Braden, 05/09/10
hell hath no fury like a Cowboys fan scorned. -Leopold Bloom
by MissOakland on Apr 25, 2011 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
The third game against the White Sox?
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by WaddellCanseco on Apr 26, 2011 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions
The one where we won like 14-7 or something?
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by cuppingmaster on Apr 26, 2011 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Yea, something like that.
I went to get a couple brats from the cart in right outfield plaza and all I could hear was cheering when Cust dropped the ball, and a bunch of kids (it was college night) walking by me and telling me about “my boy Cust.”
When I sat down in my seat, the fun began.
I couldn’t gloat too much, 1) I was in enemy territory and I didn’t want myself and my pregnant wife to get jumped and 2) there was a pastor two rows in front of us and I didn’t want to be rude.
by LoneStranger on Apr 26, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Correction: Barton got 2 hits
But the umps clearly blew the calls. The rest of the infield stunk it up. Ellis looks completely lost at the plate making last September look like an anomaly. Time for LaRoche to get a nod at 2nd base for a game here and there…or third base.
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
I never leave until the last out.
Even though I knew we were screwed as soon as Gio gave up back to back to back hits.
Weaver was throwing strikes.
You are right, Barton did get screwed twice. He had one good at bat where I thought the ball was fair for a double but no fucker came out to argue. The fact that he took strike three pissed me off as he swung at every pitch before that but did not protect which is beyond me. Obviously he was expecting something else than what he got.
and duct taping them to the seats is:
A) illegal
B) ineffective
C) has a negative social stigma
D) all of the above but I only really care about B
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Apr 25, 2011 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
great, now you tell me
I bought a bunch of duct tape after reading your subject line.
Put a bird on it
You've been hanging out with Chickie too much
"You ain't got nothin to say, it was perfect" -Dallas Braden, 05/09/10
hell hath no fury like a Cowboys fan scorned. -Leopold Bloom
Oh, so you are following Chicken's example?
Life insurance s..cks. I'm now worth more dead than alive.
"Ellis looked lost at the plate"
What did you expect him to do? Own one of the best pitchers in the game? He’s Mark Ellis not Utley or Cano. Obviously he’s not going to go 3-4 against the games best when he’s on.
Ellis is Inconsistent
With Ellis it seems like we get a bunch of suck, then an injury, then a month of hitting the ball hard to all fields in meaningless games.
His defense looks good, though.
by Colorado Fan on Apr 26, 2011 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I read this as
“Ellis is incontinent”
This would explain his hitting woes
Life insurance s..cks. I'm now worth more dead than alive.
He looks lost more than just last night.
Been a favorite of mine for years, but he looks really poor through a month, hope he can get it going.
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Apr 26, 2011 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
So um..
these pictures are hilarious. This game..not so much.
"You ain't got nothin to say, it was perfect" -Dallas Braden, 05/09/10
hell hath no fury like a Cowboys fan scorned. -Leopold Bloom
FUCK
Work as if everything depends on you and Pray knowing that everything depends on God. - Michael Taylor
Damn
Sloppy game,both A’s and Umps.
Weaver is on fire though he carved up this line up.
A’s win tommorow,Haren will be lights out wendsday and hope for a split with the rangers.
hopefully Jackson will get some playing time now that the hammer hurt his back,he has been swinggin a hot bat.
Elephants on Parade
First off, we don't know that Haren will be lights out. Hopefully he won't.
Also, I think Sweeney should get the time. He’s swung consistently well all season and the A’s are facing RHPs.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
SHARKS WIN
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by mikev on Apr 25, 2011 9:59 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Hat's off to Weaver
He was awesome…did you notice how he hit his spots? Very impressive. That being said, positive take-aways:
-As Ray said (too many times): Hot Coco
-Suzuki had his head screwed on tonight…he couldn’t hit but his near put out at 1B and his nailing the runner at 2nd on an air-ball bunt were top notch.
-Not many times you see the ol’ 3-4-3 put out, even if it goes against you.
-Wuertz looked good…Blevins, meh (but an improvement)
-Matsui: 2 hits
Sloppy defense aside, you tip your hat to a pitcher that threw a heck of a game.
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
To Add:
- A’s should really consider extending Coco another 3-Years as soon as possible. Who will play CF next season? Sweeney?
- As soon as Bailey is ready, Blevins should be sent to AAA
- Suzuki: What is his IF Pop-Up %? Gotta be top 10 in the MLB in that terrible category.
- Defense still looks like rubbish – Kouz continues to look like the Sabateur
by Colorado Fan on Apr 26, 2011 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't know about 3 years for Coco
But 2 years if he stays healthy this year is definitely doable. And yeah, it’s going to be a fun decision when Bailey returns. Purcey’s looked good since his arrival, and Blevins has looked like carp lately.
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by cuppingmaster on Apr 26, 2011 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions
get it done Billy
then I can go buy a Froco jersey
by Oaktown Shutout on Apr 26, 2011 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Sure
Weaver and Felix are great. And it’s very possible any team would’ve lost those games.
But with how bad the A’s hit, one wonders if other teams could scratch out wins in some of these games the A’s have no chance.
And if you make the ‘offs, you have to figure a way to dent these guys. A’s don’t even come close to a scratch.
On a positive note, the umps blew two calls vs the A’s tonight. It’s good that happened in a game out of reach instead of a close one.
by supersugarCrisp on Apr 25, 2011 10:28 PM PDT reply actions
Why are so many people acting like this kind of performance should be unexpected?
The upside is Texas lost.
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Apr 25, 2011 10:28 PM PDT reply actions
I didn't mind this loss...Weaver was nails
Gio didn’t have it, not that it would have mattered. He didn’t look well…at least from what I could see on TV. Almost wonder if he had the flu or something. Clearly not sharp but would have required a near-perfect performance to keep us in the game.
It’s the boneheaded losses that hurt.
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
It's a bit concerning
that since Braden went on the DL Gio hasn’t been sharp. I know the first game Braden wasn’t even at the park when Gio pitched. Anyone know if Dallas is traveling with the team?
Small sample size, but we all know how much Dallas means to Gio.
by supersugarCrisp on Apr 25, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I was wondering the same thing.
They didn’t show him on TV…if he was there.
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
Small sample size
But it would not be a good thing if Gio needs Dallas around to focus and have confidence. We’ll see.
by supersugarCrisp on Apr 25, 2011 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
From the sounds of his twitter
Dallas is rehabbing at home
"You ain't got nothin to say, it was perfect" -Dallas Braden, 05/09/10
hell hath no fury like a Cowboys fan scorned. -Leopold Bloom
by MissOakland on Apr 25, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Makes sense
And i’m sure Gio talks to him all the time.
I’m hoping there’s no connection. Just a rough spell for Gio.
by supersugarCrisp on Apr 25, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Dallas is a huge deal in Gio's success
but he does have to be a big boy when Dallas isn’t around. I’m hoping this is the end of bad Gio.
"You ain't got nothin to say, it was perfect" -Dallas Braden, 05/09/10
hell hath no fury like a Cowboys fan scorned. -Leopold Bloom
by MissOakland on Apr 25, 2011 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've been thinking this same thing the past two Gio starts.
by LoneStranger on Apr 26, 2011 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Can't you hook Gio and Dallas up with a WebEx or GTM or something?
Git er done, LS.
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by cuppingmaster on Apr 26, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
The scary thing is that we are relatively healthy
Only one of our starters is down and one of our relievers despite almost all of our relievers and several starters being significant injury risks. None of our starting position players are hurt yet, and it is likely that we will see that come to pass. All this time we are playing quite bad baseball against a mostly favorable schedule ( almost 25% of our games are against the M’s so far).
This should be quite concerning.
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Apr 25, 2011 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't say we've had a favorable schedule
Of those 7 games again the M’s, two were against Felix. After that we’ve played Toronto, Minnesota, Chicago, Detroit, Boston, and now the slegnA. None of those are bad teams (although the Twins and Sox were playing bad at the time).
"Hey anyone can join in...as long as they talk about me." - Mr. Bed
"So you're saying we should skin the Rangers and wear them as uniforms? I’m down." - Kyli
by cuppingmaster on Apr 26, 2011 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions
We haven't played the Yankees, Rays or Rangers yet though. That won't be easy.
I vibrated with joy that join A's. -- Kim Seong-min
by WaddellCanseco on Apr 26, 2011 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Of those, the Yankees concern me most
We’ve held our own against the latter two in the recent past. The way we’re going, Bartolo Colon will no hit us.
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by cuppingmaster on Apr 26, 2011 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions
yes, we should be in first place given how things have broken for us.
the artist formerly known as inbillywetrust
Since I am picking on Ellis today...
I found this gem amusing:
Mark Ellis went 0-for-4 on Monday and is an 2-for-21 slump over the last five games.
Ellis is hitting .207 with just four runs scored and five RBI after 23 games. The A’s might want to try moving him up to the No. 2 spot in the order in an effort to get him jumpstarted. Daric Barton hasn’t done a whole lot to justify his presence in that spot."
Now how in the heck does giving a guy MORE at bats when he has proven he sucks going to give us more runs? How about batting him 10th or 11th instead?
More than just ANtics: http://www.louisgray.com/live/
To be fair Ellis has been a better overall player than Barton so far.
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Apr 25, 2011 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Really?
Based on defense perhaps but he looks equally lost at the plate.
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
Not really, it is more based on the positional adjustment.
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Apr 25, 2011 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
meh
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Apr 26, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Where'd you find the "gem"?
And, it can’t hurt, they both stink at the moment.
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
The whole infield sucks on offense and defense
the are not worth a C*** full of cold snow at the moment.
Roto-WTF
Player X is in a slump. Therefore the team should move him up in the lineup.
WTF.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
I'm surprised they didn't suggest moving Kouz to the #4 slot, and have Penny leadoff as well.
Life insurance s..cks. I'm now worth more dead than alive.
So, how often are they running Weaver out there?
5 wins in 18 games, now 6 in 23…I’m actually glad he’s pitching every 3rd or 4th game. When his arm is dead in August, and amputated in September, that should make an A’s playoff push that much easier.
Yeah, it does seem odd he has six wins already.
Nice, macabre sense of things that you have too.
Hey dad, I got this guy's autograph, Rollie
Fingers. Who's he?
Although
with off days and considering he started opening day and tonight out of those 23 games…it’s not like he’s throwing every 4 days. He is in his prime. His pitch counts have been high before.
by supersugarCrisp on Apr 25, 2011 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Calendar-wise, it may not be as bad
but the dude has pitched 45 innings already. We’re like 1/7 of the way through the season. He’s on pace for over 300 innings. At what point will they have to skip some of his starts? That’s great news for A’s fans, not so much for Slega fans. Just saying…
You may be right
It also could be that they’re riding him while he’s hot and his innings will come down/even out from his expected less effective games.
But yeah, his pace is awfully high at the moment.
by supersugarCrisp on Apr 25, 2011 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Because he has two complete games.
The important part: has he thrown more pitches than anyone else? Or is he just more efficient with his pitches?
So far he's averaging 113.5 a start
None have been fewer than 104 and his third was 125.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
That should be considered cheating.
Bobo rarely allows our pitchers to go over the “Almighty 100” ( He thinks it is the sound barrier or something)
Life insurance s..cks. I'm now worth more dead than alive.
Check this out, though
Weaver’s average pitches per game by year, since 2006 when he made his debut: 102, 98, 101, 103, 109 and now 114 (rounded up).
His games under 80 pitches: 0, 2, 1, 1, 0, 0 (averaged about 3.1 IP per start in those cases)
His games between 80-99 pitches: 7, 10, 12, 9, 4, 0
His games between 100-119 pitches: 12, 16, 17, 23, 28, 5
His games over 120 pitches: 0, 0, 0, 0, 2, 1
Last year he threw a 120-pitch game on 5/12 and the other was a 121-pitch game on 8/11. So far this year and last, his pitch counts are going way up on average.
Only 10% of his last 40 starts have been under 100 pitches and he averaged exactly 6 IP in those four and 97 pitches per. Interestingly, the only one of those four that was a 7-inning game (one was 5, the other two 6 each) was also his lowest pitch count: 87.
I’d be a little concerned if I was an Angels fan.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
I guess Mike Scroticus is riding the horse til he drops
Life insurance s..cks. I'm now worth more dead than alive.
Oh, and his only start in 2009 that was under 80 pitches was 5 innings of shutout ball against the A's...
…in his last start of the season, so I don’t really think that counts the same as others.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
He must have gone to the Nolan Ryan School for Gritty Pitchers
Life insurance s..cks. I'm now worth more dead than alive.
If you look at pitch counts,
it appears more like 110 is Bobo’s limit. Most of Anderson, Cahill, Gio, McCarthy starts end up with between 100 – 110, last night (95) notwithstanding. There are a few between 110-120 and a few under 100. Braden’s first two starts (not counting the third) were both under 100, though.
by PDXAthleticsfan on Apr 26, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
May be true.
I was thinking about the last two years or so.
Life insurance s..cks. I'm now worth more dead than alive.
I don't have the data,
but my recollection is that the same held true last year. I recall a couple of games where they let Gio go for 120+.
by PDXAthleticsfan on Apr 26, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Nope
High was 118, 117 twice. Once in June, twice in September. Last year he had no start higher than 109 until June.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
Thank.
Where do you go to look that up so fast?
by PDXAthleticsfan on Apr 26, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I was guessin'
that FF’s screen name referred to both his profession and super synaptic powers of recall.
by PDXAthleticsfan on Apr 26, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I wish BB-Ref broke it down up front a little better
For example, last year out of Weaver’s 28 starts between 100-119, 13 were between 100-109 and 15 between 110-119. In 2009, of his 23 the breakdown was 13 and 10, respectively. This year his pitch counts, low to high, are 104, 107, 112, 114, 119 and 125.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
We actually let them go quite long
PCs so far:
105
108
116
89
89
105
109
106
107
95
97
105
103
114
67
112
109
104
99 (CG)
76
100
106
95
It seems clear endurance is something we stress.
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by cuppingmaster on Apr 26, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
can't see much point getting too riled up about this one...
Weaver was absolutely lights out, and our offense didnt improve just because we scored a few runs vs. the Mariners.
anyone know why willingham was taken out of the game early?
Yes, slusser tweeted as much
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by cuppingmaster on Apr 26, 2011 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions
YAY BASEBALL!
But was Gio that baa\d today? I mean, this is how he has pitched all year. He struck out 5 in 5 innings and only walked a batter.
Put a bird on it
luck evened out on him a bit it seems,
sometimes you walk 6 and don’t give up any runs. Sometimes you K a batter per and hardly walk anyone and give up a bushel.
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by designatedforassignment on Apr 25, 2011 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it was more that he gave up a bunch of searing line drives
on fastballs that didn’t have their usual life (it happens), and curves that are less effective when you only throw two pitches.
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My expectations for this game were low
The A’s met them.
Hee
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by WaddellCanseco on Apr 26, 2011 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions
The A's...
…couldn’t hit water if they fell outta a frickin’ boat!
It ain't over till the fat lady sings...but she is on a diet now!
No matter what people say, the 'Waterfront Stadium"
as people see it in SF is not happening in Oakland. Yes, the channel would be a short stroll from the stadium, but at the expected location, there will be no balls hit into it.
by LoneStranger on Apr 26, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
DO NOT DOUBT CHRIS CARTER.
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by mikev on Apr 26, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, shit.
Sorry, I forgot Carter. He’s the only one who could hit them there.
by LoneStranger on Apr 26, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
He's that damn good.
er…. will be…. hopefully…. someday.
by LoneStranger on Apr 26, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I intended that too but I fell asleep
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by WaddellCanseco on Apr 26, 2011 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I never expect the A's to win when one of the best pitchers in the game is firing on all cylinders.
I don’t expect us to score any runs against Haren either.
watching this after slegna scored 2...
Kinda reminded me of that time my gf kicked me in the balls then said "hey, you want to make out? ".
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by tresselfan on Apr 26, 2011 5:54 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Ha!
Andy yet, metaphorically speaking, if you married her this would happen every single day.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Nah, if he married her it would be
“Hey, how come you never kick me in the balls anymore?”
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Is anyone else even close to the A's in being shut out?
This is, at least 4 (Sea x 2, DET, LAA). Anyone else even close?
I’ve been overwhelmed and I’ve been underwhelmed. Can I ever just be whelmed?
San Diego, lost six shutouts. I'm going back to check the other offenses...
3 other teams shut out 3 times, I think, but I didn’t keep track. MOST teams shut out 0 to two times…
"Feel so bad, feel like a ballgame on a rainy day"-Lightnin' Hopkins
by justANotherAsFan on Apr 26, 2011 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions
We're slightly below median!!
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by WaddellCanseco on Apr 26, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
or, improve
I somehow think we are pretty much where we belong. not sure if “regression” is at play.
I wish Carter or Barton had a position that wasn’t 1B.
by Billy Frijoles on Apr 26, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
The good news
Weaver is a free agent after 2012 season. He will command a 150 million + contract. Even if the Angels sign him it will tie up a big % of their money. Look for a CC type of deal.
If only they were poor and couldn't afford nice things
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by WaddellCanseco on Apr 26, 2011 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions
two more years of this guy
And this is good news?
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by cuppingmaster on Apr 26, 2011 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions
He cannot keep this pace up
Winning or innings.
Hopefully Scioscia keeps sending him out there and leaving him out there. He was tired in the 8th and 9th but we had the usual results from the POP UP TWINS to end the game. Weaver said he was shocked they were swinging at him early. I said to my slegnA friend that he will now throw off speed to them on the first pitch and he did for quite a few batters. You would think after the third or 4th one they would pick up on that. Anyway, there was no point in not swinging at almost everything because he had only thrown like 10 balls in the first 5 innings.
Of course he can
There are years when pitchers win 25 games, and there have been years in the past when pitchers blew past 300 innings. In the end, in almost all cases, it caught up with them a couple of years down the road. But Weaver can definitely keep up this pace for this year.
Probably won’t, simply because hardly anyone does (look at Ubaldo last year), but history suggests that it’s possible he can.
did you see the pic of his arm angle on the Halo Heaven homepage
His arm looks to be rubber.
Hopefully he can’t pitch like it is. But he’s a freak, no doubt.
He’s not going to throw complete games every game, but he very well could rack up the innings this year and next…. What do the Angels care if he’s leaving after 2012 anyways.
by Oaktown Shutout on Apr 26, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Cardenas played 3B last night and Devine pitched at Sacto
Maybe they figure the way Kouzmanoff is playing D, they wouldn’t lose that much with Cardenas in the lineup.
Who goes down next, when Devine is ready? Blevins?
I think we have a lot to gain from putting Cardenas in the line-up...But maybe not just yet. I'd give Ellis and Kouzz a few more weeks before we let this kid take their ABs, regardless of how pathetic they have been thus far
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Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time
by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Apr 26, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
ADRIAN CARDENAS
I think Blevins needs to be sent down the second Bailey can bounce a ball to home plate
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Light it if you would/ Be so kind, right now'd
Be A' Good Time
by DaRubiesSLOKingsA's on Apr 26, 2011 9:03 AM PDT reply actions
I would happily replace Kouzmanoff with Cardenas right now.
However, the defense would suffer, even though the offense would likely boost.
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GO KNEEL IN THE CORNER!" - elcroata
by Gaijin_Suketto on Apr 26, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Right, Bailey is the priority
But what about Devine? He pitched a strong inning at AAA yesterday. What if he puts in a couple of weeks and looks good? I suppose by then we can expect additional injuries….
He's been throwing a lot more breaking balls since getting back on the mound, I heard a couple people discussing
Going to be interesting how he looks once he gets his consistency back.
I was talking to a scout at Raley Field last night and he’s well aware of the recovery time it’s taken A’s pitchers who had Tommy John compared to people on other teams.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
Did the scout have a theory as to why?
by Glorious Mundy on Apr 26, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
We didn't get that far into it
But he brought up that it looks like Strasburg may be ready to go again in roughly half the time it’s taken some of the people in the A’s system, and it seems many of those in the A’s organization are really struggling just to get back to where they’d been before.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
There's a good story to be written on this by an enterprising A's beat reporter
Devine, de los Santos, Outman…are there other examples in our system of TJ guys struggling to get back?
by Glorious Mundy on Apr 26, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Did Ynoa actually have it yet, or no
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Ynoa's been slow to ever get off the ground, too
And Doolittle didn’t have TJ but he’s been out so long a few people didn’t even recognize who he was when he was at camp in March.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
Also, I fear that such a story would result in the author not remaining the A's beat reporter much longer
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It would be refreshing if management used the same methods to entice the players to start hitting.
Unless, of course, the players are already doing what is asked of them. ( just joking)
Life insurance s..cks. I'm now worth more dead than alive.
It's the A's Stretcher, powered by Rich Harden
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GO KNEEL IN THE CORNER!" - elcroata
by Gaijin_Suketto on Apr 26, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
They might prefer Anthony Recker as poorly as Donaldson is playing
by Glorious Mundy on Apr 26, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Ah, and presumably the new paternity leave rules don't allow bringing up a non 40-man player
Donaldson gets it by default then.
by Glorious Mundy on Apr 26, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
But doesn't state law allow 6-8 weeks so he can breastfeed the newborn?
Life insurance s..cks. I'm now worth more dead than alive.
The law is pretty ambiguous
And designed to offend as few as possible.
Plus, MO was telling me of all the things the youth do different nowadays, so I figured this may be one of them.
Life insurance s..cks. I'm now worth more dead than alive.
I was telling you how we play scrabble and drink tea?
Or have we have we not had this conversation yet?
"You ain't got nothin to say, it was perfect" -Dallas Braden, 05/09/10
hell hath no fury like a Cowboys fan scorned. -Leopold Bloom
Why?!
These are good things!
"You ain't got nothin to say, it was perfect" -Dallas Braden, 05/09/10
hell hath no fury like a Cowboys fan scorned. -Leopold Bloom
Oh. That.
I have nothing to do with that
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hell hath no fury like a Cowboys fan scorned. -Leopold Bloom
There have been cases of men lactating and breastfeeding babies before.
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GO KNEEL IN THE CORNER!" - elcroata
by Gaijin_Suketto on Apr 26, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Call up Carter, and use Barton as BU catcher
Life insurance s..cks. I'm now worth more dead than alive.
barely.
it’s barely.
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I'm a hillbilly
I don’t speak so gud. I did, however, know Ned Beatty
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OT
Overstock.com Likely To Gain Entitlement To Oakland-Alameda Coliseum
The O.co? Ugh.
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Huh.
You guys don’t think we could have pooled together money through AN?
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I have a 20 and some lint in my pocket
You?
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by cuppingmaster on Apr 26, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
The Boy Scouts can use lint as firestarters
Life insurance s..cks. I'm now worth more dead than alive.
Will they be putting it in the bargain bin?
Life insurance s..cks. I'm now worth more dead than alive.
it would have been cool if like Woot or Slickdeals.net bought the naming rights.
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Woot field!
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by cuppingmaster on Apr 26, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
that would be so rad
baseball.woot
football.woot
They could have deals where like diamond level tickets were 100 bucks – for 10 minutes that nobody is told about.
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Do you think we could get FAs to sign here, if they knew it was only for one day?
Life insurance s..cks. I'm now worth more dead than alive.
I can sacrifice a semester's tuition
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by MissOakland on Apr 26, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
LoCo and FroCo at the O.Co O Co
No ChoCo BoCro
by PDXAthleticsfan on Apr 26, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Does this mean Kara will be replaced by
Yoko O.co?
Life insurance s..cks. I'm now worth more dead than alive.
Wow...in the annals of bad puns and corny jokes, of which this site has had many, this one truly stands out.
by Billy Frijoles on Apr 26, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe he just needs a change of scenery?
by LoneStranger on Apr 26, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone interested in a DH with a .014 ISO?
Line forms over here, folks.
by Glorious Mundy on Apr 26, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
When Gutierrez returns, they're right; they may have no more room for Cust
Cust to AAA for us?
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by cuppingmaster on Apr 26, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't imagine he'd want to come back anyway
"You ain't got nothin to say, it was perfect" -Dallas Braden, 05/09/10
hell hath no fury like a Cowboys fan scorned. -Leopold Bloom
That is what he said when BB nontendered him before the 2010 season
It is amazing how great a team is, when no one else wants you
Life insurance s..cks. I'm now worth more dead than alive.
I'm so sorry to have to be the one to tell you guys...
Gabe Gross has retired.
"You ain't got nothin to say, it was perfect" -Dallas Braden, 05/09/10
hell hath no fury like a Cowboys fan scorned. -Leopold Bloom
He went to the Mariners.
Declined a minor league assignment, signed with the Marlins but quit before the deal was done
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hell hath no fury like a Cowboys fan scorned. -Leopold Bloom
by MissOakland on Apr 26, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
CT is on.
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Yea, but he's not talking about the stadium issue, so meh.
…..
by LoneStranger on Apr 26, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
no moar football
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by cuppingmaster on Apr 26, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Like.
"You ain't got nothin to say, it was perfect" -Dallas Braden, 05/09/10
hell hath no fury like a Cowboys fan scorned. -Leopold Bloom
There was a story in yesterday's SacBee on him too
Nice.
FF with some good linkage
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hell hath no fury like a Cowboys fan scorned. -Leopold Bloom
How about bringing up this Darren Bush guy
dfa Geren
by Oaktown Shutout on Apr 26, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Davey is English
so that is right out. (sorry olham and Bob).
Michael is independently wealthy (All the Repo Man royalties), so I don’t think the A’s could afford him.
Micky is a dirty hippie.
Peter has an awesome dirty name, Peter Tork. I vote peter.
Put a bird on it
Davy Jones says he'd be a fine Head Coach.
He’d badger the referees as good as anybody.
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GO KNEEL IN THE CORNER!" - elcroata
by Gaijin_Suketto on Apr 26, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
IIRC Peter's wealthy because his grandpa or someone invented Post-It Notes, but I don't have time to confirm
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by Ray of Lite on Apr 26, 2011 4:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
the sports talk at work is not baseball, not even the sharks
it’s about the upcoming football draft
(not interesting)
it's this crazy place where i sit at a desk and look at a computer all day, occasionally sneaking away for lunch and a blood orange martini
they also give me $$ for being here
Doesn't sound like fun
Can’t you find one that pays you to sit at the beach, or go to baseball games, or something?
Life insurance s..cks. I'm now worth more dead than alive.
i think that's called retirement and i have a long way to go before then
but it would be awesome to be paid to go to the beach or a game
(starts searching on craigslist)
"retirement"
I highly recommend it for everyone.
Life insurance s..cks. I'm now worth more dead than alive.
I believe that's known as being a 'journalist' or 'sports reporter'. Sadly they're very hard to come by.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
It's kind of a big deal.
Even if I’m terrified that my team is going to hamstring themselves for the next 5 years.
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American Football. Not that footie crap. :)
by LoneStranger on Apr 26, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Well.....he was thrown into a shit storm last year and didn't come out of it with much credibility.
That said, I can’t think of many rookie QBs than would have thrived in Charlotte last year (banged up O-line, 2 rookie receivers, a moronic HC and OC etc etc). I saw improvement from him as the season went on and, if his veteran teammates had come through, we’d have been 4-12 and picking #3, rather than where we obviously finished up.
Either way, football fans have less patience than baseball fans. The majority of the Panthers blog want Clausen gone – and they don’t care who replaces him (though obviously there’s a sizable Newton bandwagon).
I still think he’ll start next year, but if we take a QB #1 overall (god please no) then he has a short shelf life as a Panther, even if he puts up ridiculous numbers, which is a shame cos I think he’s going to be a good pro.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Really painfull to watch the team right now....
Our “offense” is offensive. The shutout was so very predicatable. Question for all of you: would you rather have Eric Chavez for two months and then Adrian Cardens/LaRoche/Rosales for the rest of the season or Kouz? I’ll take the former. I am sorry, but Kouz is a failed experiement. The guy flat out can’t hit. He’s the current Bobby Crosby on our team. Ugh!!!!!
All I wanted was a Pepsi
Except.....
He’s likable, seems to work hard, has a GREAT name for baseball and doesn’t have a douchey commercial where people “mistake” him for Brad Pitt.
Plus, you kinda gotta feel for the guy. I know people will say “they are all professionals, and personal issues never impact their performance” but if you’re employer spends 4 months doing everything in their power (short of setting a potted plant there) to replace you, it’s gotta get in your head at least a bit.
Some good points.
He was terrible last year, terrible! That is why Beane tried to replace him. He does have a good personality, so he should have a bright career in broadcasting next year when he’s out of baseball. Kouzmanoff is not the going to be the starting 3basemen on any winning team. He is out starting 3basemen. Problem! Danger!
All I wanted was a Pepsi
He does have a good personality, so he should have a bright career in broadcasting next year when he’s out of baseball.
Awesome.
by Billy Frijoles on Apr 26, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
He was awesome 2 seasons
over 5 WAR, but mostly not better than Kouzmanoff. So, yeah, its clear either is "better.
The gag was on “no championship team woul have Kouzmanoff,” which is always going to be not true, because good teams can absorb mediocre players.
Put a bird on it
[I HAD to, though]
I couldn’t let the stat guys down!
Life insurance s..cks. I'm now worth more dead than alive.
He also plays stellar defense, and we're not even 30 games into the season
"Some of us know him as the a-hole who piled into Ray Fosse in an All-Star game (it's why Ray is the way he is folks)" - OptimistPrime
*has played* in years past.
The question with defense is always going to be, when, in a real time world, do you say the defense is in decline.
He is age appropriate for a decline, he certainly won’t reach the might peaks of last year.
Put a bird on it
umm...what?
As the inspiration for the Bitey Parrot mascot…Kouz’ defense leaves something to be desired.
by Billy Frijoles on Apr 26, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
His UZR is actually positive, which surprised me.
His UZR Range Runs more than cancel out his Error Runs.
Don't try to cloud the negativity with facts.
Kouz is this year’s Cust
Besides AGE is now his problem? I thought he was younger than the mighty Beltre.
Life insurance s..cks. I'm now worth more dead than alive.
I saw that after I commented.
I was surprised. He has looked bitey parrot all season
Put a bird on it
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