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Lucky Pierre! A's, Asleep for 8, Rise and Ride Bad Sox D & Zook's HR to a 2-1 Win in 10

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Juan for the blooper reel.

Star-divide

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It was the top of the 8th inning and I had a whole recap almost done.  Clever headline ("Lillibridge to Nowhere"), amusing wordplay, and much gnashing of teeth over what might have been.  But I just couldn't get any good pictures, nothing made sense. I had the sudden thought that I should just take the leap of faith and scrap the whole thing... just erase the text field and start over and the game would flip.  An hour later I am writing my second recap of the night, but this one is a pleasure and I'll do two any ol' Monday night these guys wanna steal a delicious decision from the jaws of despairing defeat like they did tonight. 

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Optimist Prime, who is someone I look up to, once told me sagely that if you put yourself out there, good things will happen.  Conor Jackson on this play notwithstanding.

My esteemed friend Mr. Gaijin Suketto was saying words to the effect that every team wins and loses 60 and it's the remaining 42 that make the season what it'll be.  He said he felt as if the A's had already lost a couple of those 42, so wouldn't it be nice right here to win, in unlikely fashion, one of those sure 60 losses? Buehrle -- despite deceptively poor W-L numbers -- typically shuts down the A's, the Sox were hot coming in, and -- in a trend that did not change tonight despite the result -- the Athletics haven't been hitting a lick.  These words stuck in my head and maybe that's why I decided to scrap the unhappy recap and wait for the team to supply me with an opportunity for a much groovier one.

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It all started as advertised: Buehrle and Braden -- just the 21st pair of pitchers who've been Perfect ever to face off against each other in a game -- were just staggering.  The first game thread featured NO HITS for either club, a first for me, anyway.  Both of them were ruthlessly efficient and worked so fast that if you blinked you'd have missed another filthy pitch.  It was weird because they were working so fast, yet when they'd throw it it was as if time would slow down somehow... these guys' changeups were so dastardly there were at-bats where the hitter could have swung TWICE before it got there.  The A's didn't even get a hit until Kurt Suzuki -- who would surface in the drama of this game later on -- singled in the 6th.  By the time this bizarre game was decided, both starters would be long gone.

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Lillibridge's 5th inning handshake deal designating Pierre to be the goat did not go unnoticed by the cameras.

Brent Lillibridge guessed right ("fastball") and took Braden just barely out of the yard in the 5th and for a long time it looked like that would hold up and the A's would find themselves, this time, on the wrong side of a 1-0 score.  Buehrle went 8 and probably should have finished, but Ozzie Guillen went to the struggling Matt "Every Rose Has Its" Thornton to close and it unraveled fast on him.  Andy LaRoche led it off with a double, with Cliff Pennington running for him.  Coco Crisp hit a ball hard but failed to advance the runner, setting the stage for the play that turned the A's money green tonight, courtesy of Juan Pierre misplaying Barton's (catchable) ball into two bases and a 1-1 tie in the top of the 9th.

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This brings us to the other subtext to this game: the emergence of Tyson Ross, in his first action of 2011, with three pressure-packed, not-much-margin-for-error innings that held the Sox down and allowed Oakland to heist this game from the van down by the river it resided in for 8 full innings. The 9th was insane, with Suzuki (he was in the middle of lots of stuff tonight) dropping a foul pop and forcing #66 to get four outs.  Tyson was equal to the task, striking out Brent Morel (The Sox have way too many Brents, IMO) with men on 2nd & 3rd on a devastating breaking ball that brought a discernible groan from the US Cellular faithful. I should also mention -- for all you K-rate enthusiasts out there -- that A's pitchers struck out 13 tonight (7 by Braden, 4 by Ross and 2 by Fuentes).

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What can you say?  Zooks hit a line drive bomb off Jesse "Whooping" Crain in the top of the 10th that never got more than 8 feet off the ground and Brian Fuentes got 'em 1-2-3 in the bottom of the tenth to notch his third straight save -- he even got right-handed hitters out! Again! -- that was all it took for the A's to grasp their first modest (3-game) winning streak of 2011.  Say what you will about Fuentes, but aside from his blister issue that got him rocked last week, he's been mixing up his medicine beautifully and showing a different look each night to perplex the opposition. Last night he was all changeups in Minnesota; tonight it was more of a fastball diet in Chicago.  Anyway I am just saying, we could do worse until Bailey returns, wouldn't you say?

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Tomorrow we go for four in a row with the newly-tremendously-wealthy Trevor Cahill taking the ball against Edwin "I Hope Willingham Hits 3" Jackson. Join the inestimably automatronic DanBot at 5pm as the winning streak rolls on!!!!

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How ironic. The lettering on the LF wall is showing what Pierre doesn't have.

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by Nico on Apr 11, 2011 9:09 PM PDT reply actions  

ARM!

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by stm72 on Apr 11, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

All the karma balances out

17 to go!!

Life insurance s..cks. I'm now worth more dead than alive.

by Tutu-late on Apr 11, 2011 9:11 PM PDT reply actions  

This is one helluva recap!

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by WaddellCanseco on Apr 11, 2011 9:12 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I would like this if I could

"Oh who am I kidding? The A's and Giants could stage a pillow fight, and I'd still care who wins." -67Marquez

by baseballgirl on Apr 11, 2011 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ahh....it's so clear now.

"Oh who am I kidding? The A's and Giants could stage a pillow fight, and I'd still care who wins." -67Marquez

by baseballgirl on Apr 11, 2011 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes it is

I’m truly sorry, Susan, but the San Francisco Chronicle got its ass kicked silly by an amateur this morning.

Thanks, en.

by paradox on Apr 12, 2011 6:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I let Blez know with a mail

Thought it was necessary, back in the kitchen now.

by paradox on Apr 12, 2011 6:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

agrd.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Apr 12, 2011 6:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

By the way, Buehrle is 4-13 career against the A's

Most losses against anyone outside the AL Central. His numbers against them aren’t bad overall, but yeah – he’s had some tough-luck outings against them even with a ND like this added in.

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by Flashfire on Apr 11, 2011 9:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Great minds...

A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular.

by IowaA'sFan on Apr 11, 2011 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

One quibble.

Buehrle is like, 4-13 lifetime against the A’s.

A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular.

by IowaA'sFan on Apr 11, 2011 9:13 PM PDT reply actions  

But I don't think it's because he hasn't pitched well

He’s lost in WEIRD ways against the A’s (see: tonight)

"Oh who am I kidding? The A's and Giants could stage a pillow fight, and I'd still care who wins." -67Marquez

by baseballgirl on Apr 11, 2011 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

True, that.

"Oh who am I kidding? The A's and Giants could stage a pillow fight, and I'd still care who wins." -67Marquez

by baseballgirl on Apr 11, 2011 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK I changed it

worded more realistically now, thanks guys

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by emperor nobody on Apr 11, 2011 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's more like it.

Oakland A’s: Deceptively good W-L record!

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by IowaA'sFan on Apr 11, 2011 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

This recap is really, really awesome.

"Oh who am I kidding? The A's and Giants could stage a pillow fight, and I'd still care who wins." -67Marquez

by baseballgirl on Apr 11, 2011 9:14 PM PDT reply actions  

It really is

It helps that A’s won, though

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Apr 12, 2011 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

LASER show.

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by IowaA'sFan on Apr 11, 2011 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

totally

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by stm72 on Apr 11, 2011 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

AND I MISSED IT!!

Had to leave for a Boy Scout meeting at 6:00. Was the second half a good game?

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by Tutu-late on Apr 11, 2011 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

zooks laser bomb

PAMS OKAY

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by stm72 on Apr 11, 2011 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

That swing was gorgeous

I like how the video replays the swing a couple times.

by Billy Frijoles on Apr 12, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

.
Jane Lee
Braden: "We dropped too many of these ballgames too often last year.This year, we’d like to turn that ship around. So far, so good."

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by Flashfire on Apr 11, 2011 9:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Let's get those bats to wake up.

Only Josh Willingham (.806) and Kurt Suzuki (.713) have an OPS that is above .700 right now among all starting position players with five starting position players owning an OPS of under .600 so far.

"You're all like big, fat failure turtles." - Edge

by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 11, 2011 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

A's Brand Baseball!

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by IowaA'sFan on Apr 11, 2011 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

The topic of whether or not we'd see Dunn is at least touched on in the AP recap:
Guillen still doesn’t have a clear timetable when DH Adam Dunn is going to be back in the lineup. “When he tells me he’s ready, I’m going to give him an extra day,” said Guillen. Dunn has missed six straight games after undergoing emergency appendectomy surgery on Wednesday.

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by Flashfire on Apr 11, 2011 9:39 PM PDT reply actions  

I sure wouldn't mind him sitting out a couple more games

Especially with Cahill going tomorrow, the less left-handed power hitters in the line-up the better.

by OkayJay81 on Apr 11, 2011 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

It doesn't matter if it's 2nd,

SS, 3B, or DH, but Mr. LaRoche needs to be in the lineup every damn day. That is all.

I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.

by Vacafan on Apr 11, 2011 10:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Ellis and Kouz both need a day off

2nd one day, then 3rd the other? And then there will be 2 lefties to face during the Tigers series

by Furyan on Apr 11, 2011 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

He should play the first 6 innings to get his AB’s in and if the A’s are up after 6 take him out for defensive purposes. His bat has looked really good thus far.

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by noesis78 on Apr 12, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hate to sound like Rajai

but anyone who has a multi-hit day should be in the lineup the next day regardless of splits…

Keep the hot bat rolling.

Alternatively if someone has back to back 0-fers they should get a day off and refocus

by Oaktown Shutout on Apr 12, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think either is a good idea

The better player should be played everyday, taking rest and fatigue and splits into consideration.

Put a bird on it

by Future Ed on Apr 12, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Recommended reading

Streaky the Supercat

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Apr 12, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just noticed you used "100 Dash"

to sneak out of putting “100 M” or “100Y”

pretty clever

Put a bird on it

by Future Ed on Apr 12, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Serving international customers since 1972

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Apr 12, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you for reposting this

Excellent reading & I stand corrected.

I love how my main questions at the beginning of the article were answered before the end of the article. I’m not sure how I missed this last year. I’ve enjoyed many of your other posts

Bad news is I may need to temper some of my Geren hate.

by Oaktown Shutout on Apr 12, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you and I'm glad you found it helpful

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Apr 12, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm doubly impressed

you read something on the internet, and changed your mind.
That is rare. (or so it seems in this world.)

by MobiusKlein on Apr 12, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is there any way to check if 'cold streaks' are a hint of injury?

The one reason I see some possible utility in ‘cold streak’ is that is could indicate some hidden condition that hampers a player’s skills.

i.e. is there a drop in production (on average) in the last 30 PA before going on the DL?

For pitchers (in reverse) it certainly seems true – getting shelled seems to happen near incipient injuries.

by MobiusKlein on Apr 12, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Getting better.

I see that the A’s have moved into 29th place in fielding percentage for the year. 28th here we come!

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by iglew on Apr 11, 2011 10:22 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Chavy was cursed in oakville

let it go, he was not going to be the man.

by MobiusKlein on Apr 11, 2011 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

LaRoche needs to play as much as possible

He could be our best hitter and we won’t be able to find out unless he gets more pt

by duballers23 on Apr 11, 2011 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here

This is a guy who had a sort of okay 2009 with the Pirates and has done a whole lot of nothing other than that. It’d be nice if he turns into someone they can count on as a utility guy, but I’m not expecting much more than that.

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by Flashfire on Apr 11, 2011 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

But you still have to play him until he regresses, right?

Why would you keep a red-hot bat on the bench because “well, his stats show that he’s never been able to consistently produce.” You play the guy until he cools off, but acting as if “this is all a dream” or something like that is just stupid.

I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.

by Vacafan on Apr 12, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

You can play him for a little bit, sure

But there’s no way he could be the team’s best hitter. If he is, that’s bad.

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by Flashfire on Apr 12, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not that I personally would mind LaRoche playing more

but this kind of logic lead to Emil Brown playing for the entirety of the 2008 season.

"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Apr 12, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

RBI machine*

*not actually an machine, but a living breathing human

Put a bird on it

by Future Ed on Apr 12, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, no. Emil Brown fuckin sucked

But he got so many ABs that he got RBI.

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by mikev on Apr 12, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

The problem is

that Chavy still can’t play third. He’s hit a little (in a super small sample size: 9 PAs as of yesterday) so far, but hasn’t played the field. He wouldn’t be a Kouz replacement, he’d be a Matsui replacement, and I’m not sure he’s any better than Godzilla.

by el generico on Apr 12, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am guessing that Fuentes will be unavailable tomorrow night, right?

I don’t think that they will want him pitching four days in a row this early in the season. Someone else, probably Balfour, might have to fill in at closer if applicable.

by Rygoslinglover on Apr 11, 2011 10:59 PM PDT reply actions  

It was probably the wrong move today

The numbers say Balfour should have gone. But… Fuentes is old and he’s a relatively soft tosser; I’m pretty sure he can go several days in a row.

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by cuppingmaster on Apr 12, 2011 6:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

3 straight bases loaded walks in the 8th,

facilitated by our old friend, Octavio Dotel.

"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Apr 11, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jays also intentionally walked winning run in the ninth.

"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Apr 11, 2011 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously

Facepalm

"Minutes from the last save opportunity...Balfour got 3 outs..."- Nico

by stranahanahan on Apr 12, 2011 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

The best thing is the crazy laugh

from the commentators’ booth when Luis Rodriguez had that winning hit.

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Apr 12, 2011 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hahaha lucky pierre

I only know what that is because of the legendary Artie Lange using it on the Joe buck show disaster.. That’s sick!!

by RickRoller on Apr 11, 2011 11:39 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Pierre may have played it poorly

but the wind was whipping something fierce. It wasn’t an easy catch, one that has to be made, but not easy.

kudos to braden and ross. Despite the absence of Dunn, the whitesox should be able to score lots of runs, yet they didn’t. Also, 7Ks? not bad dallas

Put a bird on it

by Future Ed on Apr 11, 2011 11:47 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

A's got Cliff's brother, too?

Jane Lee’s recap

With White Sox closer Matt Thornton on the mound, Andy LaRoche doubled. Pinch-runner Chad Pennington scored on a two-base fielding error by Juan Pierre, who dropped a long fly ball off the bat of Daric Barton in left field — “I just flat-out missed it,” he said — to nullify Buehrle’s magical start.

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Apr 12, 2011 12:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Laroche

Haven’t been able to watch any of laroche’s time at short. How does he look there? In the game thread people were raving about a play he almost made to get Pierre. What happened there. I like that he can play the utility role, but until he cools off that bat needs to be in the lineup. Thanks.

by bloodshot13 on Apr 12, 2011 12:38 AM PDT reply actions  

He looks better than most expected I think

He’s nothing special and you can tell he doesn’t have Cliff’s range, but he has a hell of an arm, which I think few were expecting…

"Minutes from the last save opportunity...Balfour got 3 outs..."- Nico

by stranahanahan on Apr 12, 2011 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

It seems like a tough gig to pick up after having not done it professionaly at all. Glad that he can fill in at least and not look awful out there

by bloodshot13 on Apr 12, 2011 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

This made me laugh
Sam Fuld went 4 for 6 with a two-run homer, drove in three runs and fell a single shy of the cycle to help the Rays bust out of an early-season slump with a 16-5 win over the Boston Red Sox on Monday night.

Dunno about you, but I’d gladly “fall shy” of a cycle if it means I got 2 doubles instead. You know that if Fuld had gotten the cycle it would have been the subject of all the recaps, but unfortunately, he was too good for the cycle tonight…

"Minutes from the last save opportunity...Balfour got 3 outs..."- Nico

by stranahanahan on Apr 12, 2011 1:00 AM PDT reply actions  

He had the three tough ones done after 3 abs

Would’ve been pretty funny if he just stayed at first on the 9th inning double to complete the cycle since it was a blowout. Not very sportsmanlike, but kinda funny. Much like Ricky Davis’ intentional missed shot so he get the rebound he needed for a triple double.

by bloodshot13 on Apr 12, 2011 1:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

didn't the nba rescind

someone from the hawks for doing that same thing a few years back? except it was like three or four sraight triple doubles

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by Devyn on Apr 12, 2011 2:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fun fact

Ten games into the season, Oakland A’s pitchers have a better than 3:1 K/BB ratio*. The last time a team managed to do it over a full season? Never.*
(Although 2003 Yankees led by Mussina, Wells and Rivera came awfully close – they had just two BB too many.)

* Philadelphia Phillies hold a better than 4:1K/BB ratio after their 10 games. I think they have a real good shot of finishing with a better than 3:1

** at least according to a quick and dirty research I just did

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Apr 12, 2011 4:15 AM PDT reply actions  

What's everyones thoughts regarding our SS??

If LaRoche and Kouzmanoff ideally play 3B, is it time to upgrade there??

Grant Green in 2012?? Are we still sold on Pennington?

Great game and I’m hoping for another series victory and a sweep would be nice!

Every man for himself...

by MMunoz33 on Apr 12, 2011 6:15 AM PDT reply actions  

Outstanding recap

Lots of effort clearly spent on this and it’s a beautiful thing. Nice work. Hopefully the A’s don’t see the other side of .500 the rest of the year.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Apr 12, 2011 6:58 AM PDT reply actions  

are you new here?

These are the A’s, you know. We’ll hover around .500 for a while, dipping up and down.
Don’t we have some sort of hazing ritual for newbies?

(and yes, being silly.)

by MobiusKlein on Apr 12, 2011 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he is a reliever for the Jays

2011 Oakland Athletics: We have Cy Young pitchers and make yours look like it, too

by elcroata on Apr 12, 2011 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

Any explanation why Geren didn't pinch hit Sweeney for Jackson in the 9th?

I can’t imagine a better situation for a pinch hitter. Tough right-hander on the mound, and a single drives in the go-ahead run. If there’s one thing Sweeney can do, it is hit a single off of a right-handed pitcher. Plus, Guillen had just put Crain in, and he wasn’t going to pull him for for a lefty anyway because the right-handed Willingham was on deck. Plus plus, a Sweeney-for-Jackson move gives you defensive benefits going forward.

I know pinch hitters generally perform poorly relative to their usual numbers, but the platoon advantage should more than make up for it in that spot. So, what am I missing? Something obvious, I’m sure.

by Glorious Mundy on Apr 12, 2011 10:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Wait, I just realized he also had DeJesus available

That’s two lefty hitting outfielders waiting on the bench while he lets the righty who is an overall inferior player flail away against a righty pitcher in a game-winning situation. Even if he thought a better situation for a pinch hitter might arrive later in the game, or he wanted to save a bench player for extra innings, he had two of them available! Why carry five outfielders if you won’t use one in that spot? Sheesh.

I’ve got nothing against Geren usually – I loved the way he used Ross yesterday, for example – but this one has got me stumped.

by Glorious Mundy on Apr 12, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Had Jackson even faced a right hander all year before that?? And cliff should be released for trying a bunt there..

by RickRoller on Apr 12, 2011 1:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Eh, yes and no

While the homer was quite nice and he did well behind the plate, he looked completely lost at the plate otherwise. He should have never gotten that single, as he popped that one foul that they missed.
Someone needs to jump in and fix his approach at the plate very soon…

"Minutes from the last save opportunity...Balfour got 3 outs..."- Nico

by stranahanahan on Apr 12, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

He suddenly realized he's an Athletic?

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Apr 12, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you Juan Pierre, Ozzie

A win is a win is a win….jeeez, the A’s ARE playing A LOT of these type of games lately.

by Christopher Socha on Apr 12, 2011 2:40 PM PDT reply actions  

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