The Bigger They Are (In Your Heart), The Harder The Heartbreak
Sorry if I'm going a little off script with this post, but it's something I've had on my mind for a while now and I've just got to get it off my chest.
This past week we saw Ben Roethlisberger come close to winning a third Super Bowl and join the elite ranks of guys like Joe Montana and Tom Brady. The good news is that Ben lost and a guy I like much better, given that he came from Cal, Aaron Rodgers took the win as well as the MVP.
It just got me to thinking though. As a sports fan, we develop this unexplainable love for players and a lot of us develop a vehement dislike for others. And really, what do we basis that dislike on? For the longest time, I hated Barry Bonds. I couldn't stand his big balloon head that seemed to contain even more mammoth arrogance. Yet, the only reason I had for not liking the guy was seeing some of the snippets that the media decides to show us. And Barry was no fan of any media. Hell, ESPN turned Pedro Gomez into a Bonds stalker for a couple of seasons.
Here's the thing. We really don't know these athletes at all. All we know is the 15-30 second clips we get on nightly news shows when most of the time they're guarded. And when someone actually decides to show some emotion or snaps at a reporter in the heat of the moment, that often changes the public perception of that athlete. I remember thinking that I began disliking Tiger Woods when I saw him go ballistic on some dude for snapping photos years ago. I told my wife at the time, "That right there is the real Tiger Woods. Not the cellophane projection we see on a daily basis. No other athlete's image is as well crafted as Tiger's is." Well we know what eventually happened with Tiger.
Then again, I tend to be skeptical naturally of any athlete that goes out of their way to create that perfect image. Except maybe Peyton Manning. My gut feeling is that what you see is what you get with Manning. At the same time, my point in all of this is that all I know of Manning is what we've seen in media reports and my instincts on seeing him in Double Stuf and Sony commercials. Who knows what kind of person Manning really is? Or any of these athletes. I suppose as A's fans, we know this all too well, considering McGwire and Giambi.
You might've put Brett Favre in that same Manning-like bucket a few years ago (prior to retire-unretire-retire-unretire, etc.). Remember the outpouring of love Favre got when his Dad passed away and he went crazy on the Raiders? I think it was a MNF game too. Then even this past year Favre gets caught up in a scandal where he allegedly was sending photos of his unit to a Versus cable host.
Truthfully though, any one of our favorite athletes is awaiting a similar fall. Maybe not in as large and spectacular a fashion as a Tiger Woods or Ben Roethlisberger or Michael Vick, but when you deify human beings the way we do, as Ronnie James Dio (RIP) once said, the only way to go is down.
I know that might sound preachy, especially from someone who once had tee shirts that read, "In Billy We Trust" but I've just become guarded and leery of worshipping athletes (or celebrities) too much over the years. Especially as I've started having children of my own and they're getting older. Maya often sits down and watches games with me. She'll watch soccer and hockey (haven't convinced her on the glory of baseball yet but I was a late comer to baseball too so perhaps it just takes us Blez family time). And I start to cheer for Marty Brodeur. Listen I used to worship at the altar of Martin Brodeur. And then during the 2003 Stanley Cup playoffs when Brodeur was about to win his third Stanley Cup, scandal broke. It turned out that Brodeur, who I named a dog after (Marty), had been in a relationship with his wife's sister-in-law. Yeah, it was u-g-l-y.
I think it might've been that moment that I decided that an athlete was never going to suck me into the image he created through the media again. Brodeur has always bucked the trend of goalies in that he was affable, pleasant and would talk to the media on game days. I even interviewed him back in his younger days and he was extremely pleasant. And maybe some people don't care what someone does on their free time, but at that time I did actually care. I thought this person was not only a remarkable athlete, but a great person too.
That was the moment where I think my innocence died and I began approaching my sports fandom totally differently. I started to realize that all I can do as a sports fan is to judge an athlete based on their performance on the field. That's all we have because the media filter keeps us from ever truly knowing these larger-than-life heroes. I don't automatically assume that every athlete is a bad person or guilty of anything, I just try and avoid ever making the assumption that someone is necessarily good. I'd like to think I just reserve judgment, no matter how awesome they appear publicly. You don't know if one is out there raising fighting dogs and killing animals or sleeping with their sister-in-law. It's just the nature of the beast. As my kids get older I can simply tell them, this is a great player and make no commentary on the people.
Unfortunately, it's all we have.
But the good news is, pitchers and catchers, baby. Pitchers and catchers!
60 comments
|
2 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Nice topic, Tyler.
Most kids are going to hero-worship based on a player’s on-field performance anyway, so it’s better not to sway them either way based on what you might know (or don’t know) about them off the field. As they’ll evntually learn there’s no Santa Claus, they’ll learn that their heroes are capable of human error.
Nothing surprises me about athletes anymore, and I try to focus my attention on what they do in their line of work. Do I enjoy Kobe Bryant’s abilities any less because he was accused of rape a few years ago? I say no. Maybe a bad example anyway, because Kobe’s image could never be accused of being squeaky-clean in the first place.
For me personally, my dislike of guys like Bonds and Clemens had more to do with who they played for than anything else. The other things about them (or what I heard about them) was icing. But when Bonds was at the plate, I watched. How could you not? I imagine I would have felt the same watching Ty Cobb.
P.S. Loved the Dio reference. The Favre-beats-the-Raiders reference, not so much.
I'm here to talk about the past.
Please explain this there is no Santa Claus thing
He lives at the North Pole but comes to the mall every December!
Visit my blog the Todd Van Poppel Rookie Card Retirement Plan!!
check google earth
there is no north pole anymore either.
by gratefuldude on Feb 12, 2011 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
Woah -- I just saw my pants.
Finally!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
This topic transcends the sporting world.
On the other hand, some of the best people who find themselves in celebrity-like roles wont ever be acknowledged for being good role models. I think this happens for two reason: 1) it seems it’s only the elite talents that get noticed; 2) positive things are seldomly news-worthy.
Off topic: does anyone else think that Miley Cyrus’s bong hits video a deliberate attempt to reshape her image as a bad girl — possibly to appeal to a newer audience while still retaining some of her old audience who have grown up [and experimented] along with her?
"It boils down to this. You guys aren’t fans of our management and look through that prism." ~ DrDoom
Yes. Shes following the Lindsey Lohan playbook.
You don't need a religion, you have the A's. - My girlfriend
by designatedforassignment on Feb 12, 2011 8:37 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not sure Lindey's playing...
Waffle House is good for two things: 1 – coffee; 2 – finding cheap whores -- Jennifer
by Leopold Bloom on Feb 12, 2011 8:59 AM PST up reply actions
you are absolutely correct
I have felt the same way for a long time, the media has the power to display a player in any light they feel like. So if Barry is a dick to to reporters that is what we are going to see.
Now I would like to comment on Aaron Rodgers. I like in Chico so I have had the opportunity to deal with the guy a couple of times when I worked in the bars. He was a nice enough guy but a lousy tipper, I don’t expect a massive tip just because the guy is in the NFL, just a tip like every other paying customer. Because of this I was pretty bitter towards the dude for the past couple of years. But it dawned on me this year that he is the only athlete of celebrity that I have had an dealings like that with. For all I know all athletes are like this I just haven’t had the opportunity to experience it. So I stopped hating and cheered for Aaron during the playoffs and Super Bowl. It was fun to be in Chico this town was a buzz with Aaron fever.
24 is my age 22 is my gauge
by catfishunterSthompson on Feb 12, 2011 7:52 AM PST reply actions
live in Chico not like in Chico
24 is my age 22 is my gauge
by catfishunterSthompson on Feb 12, 2011 7:55 AM PST up reply actions
I don't want to get to know "the real Danny Farquhar"
It could shatter my innocence.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Feb 12, 2011 9:06 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I always just assumed you shattered your innocence at summercamp.
"Never have a motto, that's what I always say" - Me
http://marcel-oehler.marcellosendos.ch/comics/ch/1986/05/19860506.gif
I hate to quote something from a Nike commercial
But I applaud Charles Barkley for stating “I am not a role model”.
by Henduland in Texas on Feb 12, 2011 9:40 AM PST reply actions
Barkley's fatal flaw is believing he has a choice in the matter.
"We don't see things as they are, we see things as we are."
~ Anais Nin
Well, then...
…he is modeling some kind of role. And at least he’s telling people that perhaps he’s not one that others should try to emulate. I have to give him a lot of credit there.
"It boils down to this. You guys aren’t fans of our management and look through that prism." ~ DrDoom
by LowcountryJoe on Feb 13, 2011 8:09 AM PST up reply actions
I give him some credit, also.
People shouldn’t hold celebrities in such unrealistic high esteem… but they do. He is correct in telling people that they shouldn’t put so much on his shoulders… but they won’t listen. In this scenario, “should” is far different from reality. Regardless of how things should be, no one can control how other people regard them, fair or not. Hence, whether he wants it or not, he does have some responsibility for being a role model.
"We don't see things as they are, we see things as we are."
~ Anais Nin
by UncleLeo on Feb 13, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
"It boils down to this. You guys aren’t fans of our management and look through that prism." ~ DrDoom
by LowcountryJoe on Feb 13, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
This is an outstanding post, and something I've long agreed with ...
If you’re 12 or under, I completely understand the whole hero-worship thing, but please – for the love – adult sports fans need to stop with the naive, uninformed “this guy is a good guy – this guy is a bad guy” nonsense. Unless you know an athlete personally (and really well, I might add) than you have no idea who’s “nice” and who’s a jerk — who’s a good guy/who’s a bad guy.
If you got a chance to hang out with your favorite team – whatever team it may be – chances are real good that many of the guys you thought you’d like, you wouldn’t – and many of the guys you thought you’d hate, you’d really like. One of the best examples of this (in the Bay Area) was/is Will Clark and Jose Canseco (pre steroids book hoopla). I got a chance to get to know several A’s and Giants players in the late 80’s/early 90’s … to a man, they all said they really liked Canseco – good teammate, fun to be around – couldn’t stand Will Clark – arrogant, bigoted redneck. But that wasn’t what the media portrayed … at all … now the common perception is that Canseco was hated and Clark loved … not by their teammates they weren’t — just by the general, misinformed, “we really know nothing at all” public.
Again, this is why I root for laundry … I couldn’t care less what someone does off the field – I don’t know him, he doesn’t know me – athletes are the last people I’d allow my kids to “look up to” other than their athletic abilities. Just help my team win — fact is, I don’t know whether you’re a nice guy or not, and I probably never will — why should I allow that to influence my cheering?! I root for the A’s – I don’t give a damn who wears the uniform, or what he does in his spare time – just help the team win. That’s the only thing that matters – and if you’re a sports fan? That’s the only thing that should matter to you, too.
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
marty brodeur
imagine how he felt when he realized that his wife’s sister-in-law was—-gaack!—-his own sister. no wonder they hit it off so well.
I suppose I reserve the right as a fan to make my judgments with the information I have at the time
For instance, I used to kind of like Roethlisberger because he’s a giant lummox who thrives on broken plays. There was something charming about that to me, especially when contrasted against the cold, intelligent tactician type that Peyton Manning represents (whom I also like). Anyway, that all went by the wayside right quick. For some reason I have compunctions about rooting for accused rapists.
Instead of an all or nothing approach—hero worship or solely focusing on the on-field product—I prefer a middle path. I like ‘em ’til I find out otherwise. Then they’re dead to me.
I love green because money be green.
I hear what you're saying,
but the problem is, most of what you “find out” is half-truths or just flat-out lies. How do you make a judgment based on that?
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
The approach definitely has its flaws
But I still prefer it to completely ignoring character issues altogether.
I love green because money be green.
I like rooting for good guys.
That’s why I love the A’s! 34 days until opening day!
"I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." -Jessica Rabbit
by A'sfansince1970 on Feb 12, 2011 1:56 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I don't expect people to be perfect
I just draw the line at criminals. When you are raping people or killing people that’s a societal judgement of WRONG. Steroids, being arrogant, adultry, not a great guy perhaps but I can cheer for your accomplishments. That’s just my take.
Visit my blog the Todd Van Poppel Rookie Card Retirement Plan!!
I agree with this.
This takes Kobe, Ben and M Vick to a different level for me as far as not rooting for them, compared to the guys whose images are or were destroyed by their own idiocy (Tiger, Favre) and the guys who we’ve been taught by the media to either supposedly irrationally love or dislike.
"Feel so bad, feel like a ballgame on a rainy day"-Lightnin' Hopkins
by justANotherAsFan on Feb 13, 2011 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
I love Kobe.
No proof he did anything. Just accusations. Vick…I fucking hate that guy. Ben, don’t really know.
this is true for anybody
no one really knows somebody until they spend a lot of personal time with them and even then people hide things all the time.
professional athletes and celebrities are just in the public eye.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
exactly
essentially, athletes are people. people who have devoted their life pretty obsessively to one thing, necessarily at the expense of most other things.
i worked for the company that produced the a’s magazine/program a while back, and had the good fortune to interview a bunch of those early ‘00s dudes from the playoff teams. we did a series of little trivia things on each player, and almost every single guy said that dave matthews was his favorite musician. except scott hatteberg, who said miles davis. also hattie went out of his way to find me a chair. it is not a coincidence that my mom’s dog is named after him.
"Poopin' Machine"?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Where were you four years ago?
Coulda used that one.
by mk on Feb 13, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
So being a great athlete doesn't make you a good guy.....wow....my mind is blown.
But seriously, folks....
If your profile didn't have a picture of a goat, I'd ban you for this comment.
{call me}
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Thankfully for AN it's a donkey so I think that means you can ban me.
of course I’ll just come back under one of my other 237 names.
But seriously, folks....
You remind me of that chap D.E.B.
Insufferable chap, he.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Rec'd
If I was to hear today that someone like Mariano Rivera did something against the law, I would be in a state of shock. Would be tough to explain to a little kid that his hero did something illegal.
Writer for Pinstripe Alley, MLB Daily Dish
Follow me on twitter @nyybrandonc
New York Rangers- It's just pain.
What makes me like Jose Canseco and Rube Waddell?
It's because he derived his torque from the buttocks -- cityplANner
Well yes that
It's because he derived his torque from the buttocks -- cityplANner
by WaddellCanseco on Feb 12, 2011 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
It makes me sad as a planner
that pretty much every professional athlete lives a lifestyle that is diametrically opposed to everything I’m trying to accomplish in my career.
How’s that for heartbreak?
If Pennington manages 17 HRs, I’ll vow to consume an article of clothing to achieve a humorous effect --Joey C.
The sad part is that your career is as a receptionist.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
If by this comment...
It makes me sad as a planner that pretty much every professional athlete lives a lifestyle that is diametrically opposed to everything I’m trying to accomplish in my career.
…you mean their lifestyles [as in living standards] are better than most, than why does this sadden you? Social justice reasons?
If it is because you think that pretty much all of them are unsavory characters, I think this is truly an unfair criticism of pretty much a great many professional athletes that are good people who just happen to have the kind of talent which the marketplace will pay to see.
"It boils down to this. You guys aren’t fans of our management and look through that prism." ~ DrDoom
by LowcountryJoe on Feb 13, 2011 8:20 AM PST up reply actions
I think he means they drive SUVs and live in suburbia rather than in dense urban settings
using public transport
It's because he derived his torque from the buttocks -- cityplANner
by WaddellCanseco on Feb 13, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
I see.
Some people will just prefer their yards, their privacy, and their sense of security that they feel comes primarily from a suburban setting…no matter how much they’re being persuaded to prefer something else. I’m not wealthy at all and decide to live in non-urban areas for the reasons I listed and because the schools for my teenaged kids seem a whole lot better.
"It boils down to this. You guys aren’t fans of our management and look through that prism." ~ DrDoom
by LowcountryJoe on Feb 13, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
I'd rather not risk straying into politics on this one
and I completely agree that people have the right to want what they want, but
their yards, their privacy, and their sense of security
is not the sole domain of the suburb. We’ve just convinced ourselves through societal conventional wisdom that that’s the case.
If Pennington manages 17 HRs, I’ll vow to consume an article of clothing to achieve a humorous effect --Joey C.
That and denseness tends to be a tradeoff with those things mentioned.
"It boils down to this. You guys aren’t fans of our management and look through that prism." ~ DrDoom
by LowcountryJoe on Feb 13, 2011 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
I had a pretty big yard while living in the Sunset District. I hardly ever saw the
neighbors and felt very secure. It wasn’t expensive then — mid 1980s — not sure about now.
It's because he derived his torque from the buttocks -- cityplANner
by WaddellCanseco on Feb 13, 2011 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
yes, but that shouldn't be a foregone conclusion simply because that's the way 20th century American cities have evolved
That’s more of an urban design problem than anything else. There are plenty of cities in the world with higher densities than any American metropolitan area (the LA area actually being the densest in the country. How’s that for blowing your mind?) which have extremely high standards of livability, walkability, community, safety, and privacy.
If Pennington manages 17 HRs, I’ll vow to consume an article of clothing to achieve a humorous effect --Joey C.
Can you give examples of those cities?
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
by lenscrafters on Feb 13, 2011 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
offhand
Berlin comes to mind. Copenhagen. Barcelona. Buenos Aires. Curitiba.
None of these are a cure-all we should imitate wholesale, but they all certainly offer beneficial elements that are almost entirely absent from US cities.
If Pennington manages 17 HRs, I’ll vow to consume an article of clothing to achieve a humorous effect --Joey C.
I realize that
my posts have been coming off as fairly “anti-single family home”. That’s extremely far from the truth. Single family homes play a vital role in society and should be integrated successfully into the urban fabric instead of among isolated cul-de-sacs off in the hinterlands in single-use pods of activity sheltered behind 8 lane “arterial” roadways.
If Pennington manages 17 HRs, I’ll vow to consume an article of clothing to achieve a humorous effect --Joey C.
Doesn't the surrounding lands get under-utilized in that scenario?
Or is that the ultimate goal…have less land be lived on to preserve natural habitats [ecosystems free from human activity]?
"It boils down to this. You guys aren’t fans of our management and look through that prism." ~ DrDoom
by LowcountryJoe on Feb 13, 2011 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
part of it is to lower the urban footprint
part of it is to introduce independence of mobility for all age ranges and economic groups that usually isn’t possible in auto-dominated exurbia
part of it is to retain natural habitat which acts as carbon-sinks for our pollution
part of it is to retain working farmland (often exurbs pave over our most productive land)
part of it is to reduce the number and length of trips by automobile, reducing congestion, traffic, emissions, asthma rates, etc.
part of it is to combat land-use patterns which contribute to obesity rates, heart disease, diabetes, etc.
part of it is to provide at least the opportunity to work close to where you live
part of it is utilizing our existing urban footprint to its greatest level of use rather than push outwards
part of it is to create the circumstances and tools to foster strong traditional neighborhoods rather than the repetition of faceless garage-fronted homes in sidewalk-less subdivisions and separated-use office parks
there’s a lot of interconnecting priorities and a lot of externalities which aren’t figured into current development practices.
If Pennington manages 17 HRs, I’ll vow to consume an article of clothing to achieve a humorous effect --Joey C.
nail on the head
they also represent an outsized lifestyle that is even more unsustainable than the average Americans’ wildly unsustainable lifestyle (of which, yes, I am one).
If Pennington manages 17 HRs, I’ll vow to consume an article of clothing to achieve a humorous effect --Joey C.
Likeability
I liked Jack Cust and Raj , and Nick Swisher and Tim Hudson. I like Landon Powell,
Ryan Sweeney, and kurt Suzuki. Look for them to be traded soon.

by 


























