Community Prospect List - Vote for #10 - Runoff
by Zonis on Jan 5, 2011 10:09 AM PST
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Our first Runoff thread, the score is tied between Donaldson and Sogard. Vote for who you believe to be the A's #10 Prospect!
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Name: Josh Donaldson |
2010 Levels: AAA, MLB |
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Name: Eric Sogard |
2010 Levels: AAA, MLB |
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Hey! I get to vote for someone who'll get more than 1 vote!
Sogard
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Vote for Sogard
without re-pasting my argument from the other thread, Sogard deserves your vote because he is 7 months younger, is MLB ready now (whereas Donaldson needs to cut down on that K rate and get his avg/obp back up, half a season or so should do it) and doesn’t have injury concerns really.
by Rebuilding Season on Jan 5, 2011 10:19 AM PST reply actions
5 1/2 months younger, not that it matters much.
I don’t think Sogard is any more MLB ready than Donaldson at this point, and catchers are more valuable than second basemen. I’m going Donaldson here. I think he can be a decent ML catcher, though I suspect it won’t be with the A’s.
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by thejd44 on Jan 6, 2011 5:30 AM PST up reply actions
I stay with Sogard
Even if I get less confident in putting him over Donaldson. I would have been ok if Donaldson had made it since he was up by 6 votes late yesterday.
Sogard All The Way!
He hit .429 in the majors last year with a .556 obp!
Uh...but it was 9 PAs.
Moran.
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Shortcake
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by WaddellCanseco on Jan 6, 2011 7:06 AM PST up reply actions
And Donaldson only .156
Duh, what a no-brainer
I can't even believe its been this close. .429 is almost 300 better than .156!
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I voted for Donaldson because clearly he's "due"
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Shouldn't his forthcoming maternity leave lower his ranking some?
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by thejd44 on Jan 6, 2011 5:31 AM PST up reply actions
I picked Donaldson
Donaldson’s bat was almost as good as Sogard’s last year in Sacramento even with his flukily low BABIP. I’ll take Donaldson’s ability to play catcher and likely superior bat over Sogard please.
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Sogards absence of power may work alright in the minors but major league pitchers are going to eat him alive if he can’t do any damage. His defense may be passable but he has no versatility at the moment, making all those comments about his future as a utility player false.
Donaldson has a good chance to stick at catcher and at least be competent with the bat. When picking moldy fruit I usually take the one with less brown spots so Donaldson’s my guy.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
Since when?
Middle infielders don’t need to have power to be passable. In fact, I think his ability to draw walks without any power to back it up is a skill that will translate well. If pitchers aren’t scared of his power now, they won’t be scared of his power in the MLB, but he’ll still be able to identify borderline balls and draw walks from them.
by Rebuilding Season on Jan 5, 2011 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
I'm saying
I think he’s going to slug much lower than the .407 he put up this year and that consequently his OBP will fall as well. Of course much of this is my opinion which is really what the poll is about.
I just think the probability of Donaldson being at least an average major league catcher is greater than the probability of Sogard being at least an average major league second baseman.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
Catchers don't even have to be able to hit
as shown by Post-Pittsburgh Jason Kendall
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Though it's nice if they do,
as shown by Post-Pittsburgh Jason Kendall.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
you mean Pre-Oakland Kendall
"So, the A's new organizational philosophy involves adding Viking relievers? God save us all."
"Berserkers: the new market inefficiency."
-LonestarBall
Power is highly correlated with walk rate, but they're not 100% codependent
Guys like Chone Figgins and Luis Castillo have maintained excellent walk rates despite almost zero power, and Daric Barton has one of the best walk rates in the majors despite power that is probably weaker than average.
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probably weaker than average
understatement of the year thus far
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Eric Chavez has been less healthy than average
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by WaddellCanseco on Jan 6, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
PT probably means "weaker than average" for all players, not just 1B.
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Right
It’s clearly near-bottom for 1B. I think he can eventually bring it to average-ish among baseball players at large.
Either way, his walk rate is way above what you’d expect based on his power level.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
I voted Sogard
I like his bat a bit more (I know Donaldson did have a low BABIP this year— substantially lower than his career— but that’s not an unalloyedly good thing) and I think he’ll be right around the 10 runs better defensively that he needs to be to overcome the positional advantage if Donaldson remains a catcher.
It’s quite close. Closer than I gave it credit for being when I drew up an early draft list in November.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
I think that
if Sogard was in another org., and that GM called Billy and offered to trade him straight up for Ynoa, it would be a memorably comic incident that Billy would relate to his grandchildren before a warm fire.
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