Looking ahead to the trading deadline
At this point, there are basically no free agents left who would be an upgrade for the A's. So I am looking ahead to the trading deadline because I am assuming that the A's will be good enough to consider themselves "buyers" during the trade deadline. Right now, almost every team feels like they have a chance to compete, or at least their owners want the fans to think so, so trading for talent now would come at a high price. This is a post that encourages you, the commentors, to come up with your own potential trades I will attempt to predict which teams will consider themselves out of it by trade deadline, and which players could be "got" without having to pay a steep price. I am assuming that the A's starting pitchers and relievers will be solid, so I am mostly looking at offensive upgrades.
Royals- not much quality left on that team after two of their most sought after players, DeJesus and Grienke, have already been traded away. Soria and Butler become their two best players, but we don't really need Soria, and Butler would likely cost too much and I am not sure what his role would be if he did join the A's.
Chance of A's making a trade with the Royals: 1 %
Marlins- The Marlins may well end up being the worst team in the NL east, and the Marlins will try to move some players so they can build for the future. The Marlins would probably only trade Hanley for at least 3 sure fire prospects, but the price may come down if Hanley starts acting up again. There is no one else really worth the A's trouble on this team.
Chance of making a trade with the Marlins: 3%
Nationals: They have improved but they will probably still suck. Who becomes available? Not Zimmerman, not Werth, not Strasburg, so, basically, no one of value. Nyjer Morgan and Adam Laroche could be had for cheap, but, even then, they are probably not worth it.
Chance of making a trade with the Nationals: 3%
Pirates- Ok, I really can't think of anyone on this team that the A's would want. Maybe we can trade ballparks? Maybe the Pirates trade McCutchen for Stomper. I wouldn't put it past them. Though I would miss Stomper...
Chance of making a trade with the Pirates: 7%
Mariners- This becomes somewhat trickier since teams generally do not like to trade within their own division. Chone Figgins could become available as could Ichiro. It seems inplausible that the Mariners trade Ichiro, but they may want to start a new era which means getting rid of Ichiro. Bedard could also be ripe for the plucking if he is not on the DL, and the A's could be searching for a more valuable fifth starter.
Chance of making a trade with the Mariners: 10 %
Astros- I would really only want the A's to trade for Carlos Lee or Hunter Pence, but Pence is probably untouchable, and Leee may not really be worth it. Lee would still be a power threat if he is willing to take on more of a utility/ not play every game role. He is damn expensive, so the Astros would have to eat some of his contract.
Chance of making a trade with the Astros: 12 %.
Cleveland- I refuse to say their team's name because, frankly, I hate it. I am surprised that it has not been changed yet but that probably has to do with Native Americans becoming extinct, so there is not a lot of people who care enough to try to change their name. Anyways, I am getting off of my high politically correct horse and moving on to the point. Cleveland may have Sizemore, Choo, and Cabrera available. Cabrera would be a really nice backup infielder to have and he would probably not cost very much. Sizemore and Choo would take more to get, but Clevand may be desperate come trade deadline time. Who knows?
Chance of making a trade with Cleveland: 25%
Diamondbacks- They will likely find themselves in the cellar of the NL west, and I am sure that Justin Upton trade rumors will begin swirling once again. The Diamond back would want too much for him. I could see them willing to trade Chris Young and Stephen Drew for a cheaper price, and both of these players would give the A's a lot of offensive help. I would be ecstatic if the A's were able to get either of these players without having to sacrifice too much, and I could actually see that happening. We have traded with the D-Backs recently, so familiarity may make the trade easier.
Chance of making a trade with the Diamondbacks:27%
Blue Jays- The Blue Jays are a team that carries a ton of offensive firepower, but they are not likely to contend. The Blue Jays are intriguing as well because they have a ton of "pop" in their lineup. Bautista, Aaron Hill, Escobar and Lind could be had for the right price. I only see the A's going after Bautista or Hill but they prove to be too expensive
Chance of making a trade with the Blue Jays: 30%
Orioles- The Orioles are a really interesting team because, this offseason, they have added a lot of offensive pieces to an already sound offensively ball club. That being said, the Orioles will likely be out of it come trade deadline time, and I think the A's should really try to make a trade with them. Mark Reynolds, Derrek Lee, J.J. Hardy, Brian Roberts, and Felix Pie could all be available. I would love to get Markakis, but I don't see the Orioles dangling him about. The aforementioned players could probably be had at a low price, and they would all either be a positional upgrade or they could become a really good bat off the bench.
Chance of making a deal with the Orioles: 35%
Cubs- The Cubs have added some pieces, but I still think that they are not good enough to contend. Aramis Ramierez, Garza, Zambrano, Soriano, Fukudome, Pena and Bryd could all be probably be had. Some may cost more than others, but Ramirez, Byrd and Soriano would help the A's out a lot. I would especially love to see us land Ramirez or Byrd, and we could probably obtain them without having to give up all that much.
Chance of making a trade with the Cubs: 37%
Ok, those are the teams that I can say, with relative certaintiy, will be sellers come trade deadline time. Any of these players interest you. I probably left off a lot of other tradable players, so discuss potential trades in the comments box.
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Mets -- I'd take Reyes or Beltran
Dodgers — Kemp or Billingsley
Clevelands — Carmona
Phillies — Blanton
It's because he derived his torque from the buttocks -- cityplANner
Blanton?
he no longer makes $350k. It’s north of $7M. I like me some cupcakes, but not at that price.
by sf drift king on Jan 31, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
I can see us doing a deal with the Mets more than any team listed
but our deadline deals will 100% have to do with health. If Ellis goes down, we will be looking for an upgrade at 2B, same goes for Crisp, same goes for Matsui, DeJesus & Willingham. We will definitely be looking at a trade for SP if BA or Braden get hurt too. But then again, freak injuries might happen too and take down one of our more healthy players.
I just hope we follow the Giants strategy and go ape and get literally any player that our division rivals are eying. Cody Ross types FTW.
Buy some class, act like you've been there before.
Well
The Mets may be better than expected because they have a decent rotation, and I expect a much better season from Bay. I think the Mets will be good enough around the trade deadline to be “buyers.”
by Rygoslinglover on Jan 27, 2011 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
Not so fast
Are you taking into account that Johan Santana will not be a part of that rotation for the first couple of months and have Beltran and Reyes as walk year FA’s? The Mets have 0.0% chance of being good next year, especially in a division with Philly and ATL.
Buy some class, act like you've been there before.
So...the overall likelihood of a trading deadline deal with some team is....
right around 200%?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Probability fail.
If I flip a coin it has 50% chance of coming up heads. So if I flip four coins the overall likelihood of getting a heads with some coin is … right around 200%?
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Well only if
it’s loaded I’m loaded.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I blame January.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I was framed.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I never posted that.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
It was a typo.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
It was a metaphor.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
You didn't let me finish....
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
It was Bob Geren's fault.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
blame January?

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Dude
I get it. I should have made the percentages equal 1000. Can I edit my post?
by Rygoslinglover on Jan 27, 2011 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, but you don't need to because what you don't get
is that I’m completely wrong.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Man
I feel so confused lol. I just took a stats class like a year ago too. I get why I’m not wrong though because you arent supposed to just add all of the probabilities represented by percentages.
by Rygoslinglover on Jan 27, 2011 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
The odds of an event happening once are best arrived at by subtracting the odds of it happening never from 1
So on the coin flip, flipping 4 times leads to a probability of 1 – (0.5 ^ 4) = 93.75%
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
I was not making it out of 100 percent
because there are so many variables at play, but I realize that I doesn’t mathemeatically make sense. I should have done it with odds, but I didn’t really think about it. I meant like the odds of the A’s making a deal with the Jays would be 3 to 10, but, of course, that is just an arbitrary number and the odds increase for the team with the worst record.
"It will be partly cloudy tomorrow with a 200% chance of rain."
Those kinds of forecasts would be more fun, and I might actually watch the weather report.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Quiz
We — that is, our cultural ancestors — portrayed them as savage beings, considered them irredeemable enemies of civilization. We hunted them down and killed them. Then after most of them were exterminated, we changed our tune and began to romanticize them instead. Now there is a major league sports team named after them.
This describes:
(a) Indians
(b) Pirates
(c) Vikings
(d) Lions
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
by iglew on Jan 27, 2011 8:55 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Not only that
but calling Native Americans “Indians” was because of Columbus’ dumb ass, yet we have a sports team named after his mistake. How about the Oakland Blacks?
by Rygoslinglover on Jan 27, 2011 9:08 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Or the El Cerrito Poor Senses of Direction?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
thank you sir for making me lol
Yeah I keep the stickers on my A's hat and don't bend the bill. So what, big whoop, wanna fight about it?
by MudkipzGetHYPHY on Jan 28, 2011 8:14 AM PST up reply actions
The Cleveland Native Americans
Just does not have a good ring to it. Very poor marketing potential. That would be like calling the team across the bay the “San Francisco abnormally large individuals characterized by excessive growth and height, caused by an over production of human growth hormone” (although that team name would accurately describe a certain former Giants slugger). This is baseball we are talking about here, not a Social Justice course at UC Santa Cruz.
lol
I didn’t mean that I wanted their team name changed to the Cleveland Native Americans. I would like them to change their team name to something that doesn’t refer to a specific group of people, especially since there aren’t any Native Americans in baseball.
by Rygoslinglover on Jan 28, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
No Native Americans in baseball?
As of opening day 2010, 72.3% of players were born in the United States. That sounds like a significant number of Native American players to me.
Obvious troll is obvious
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
He's actually not a troll
He’s a long time user whose political views are…how do I say…not in step with many people’s…?
It’s more like “obvious right-winger is obvious,” and contrary to popular belief no political orientation is given more or less rope on AN.
That being said, if enough people find a comment/user “racist” I have no problem with pulling the trigger. But that’s for the community to complain about first and then for the mods to discuss.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Since this is out in the open already, might as well continue it.
He’s basically slid political rhetoric and argument baiting into every single post he’s made in the last few days. That’s against the rules, regardless of political orientation.
oh come on
Give me a break. My comments here have stayed appropriate to the discussion at hand. My 72.3% comment was supposed to be a (failed) attempt at sarcastic humor. The only political “comment” I made was my previous signature line with a Reagan quote (that Nico was kind enough to remove for me). The majority of us on this site are adults, please don’t be so quick to label me a “racist” because I may have a contrasting view point about the name of the baseball team from Cleveland. Celebrate diversity anyone?
by Shippee33 on Jan 28, 2011 6:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I, for one, support your right to not have any idea what "Native American" means
But I also support your right to learn that zero people have called you a racist. With or without scare quotes.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
I just transposed
The “racist” from Nico’s post above (see above). I obviously have a minimal grasp on what Native American means, or I would not have been able to post such a witty reply. I do support your support for my right to appear willfully ignorant. Can I get a “Let’s go Oakland” anyone?
by Shippee33 on Jan 28, 2011 7:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe we should rename them the Cleveland Steamers
by barryzitoforever on Jan 30, 2011 8:56 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
I don't think pirates were exterminated, per se... that was more of a technological change...
VIkings certainly weren’t— most of them were extremely successful breeders (and fighters— perhaps they weren’t hunted down and killed because anyone who tried would end up dead themselves)! Half of Europe is descended from them.
Lions is a slightly better analogy; buffaloes (the mascot for University of Colorado, as well as the Orix Buffaloes of NPB) would be an even better one, since lions have yet to suffer serious threat of extinction.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
Actually
Panthera leo europaea, the subspecies known commonly as the European Lion actually suffered extinction at the hands of men. I’m not positive, but I’m pretty sure those were the Lions he was speaking of. Frick’n Romans!!!
Or what about
The Cincinnati Reds? Or the Homestead Grays?
by Shippee33 on Jan 28, 2011 1:50 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I really hope so
That would be great for our team, and it would mean that I sort of predicted it, but not really. I need gratitude. My parents didn’t love me enough
by Rygoslinglover on Jan 28, 2011 2:13 AM PST up reply actions
I really hope we do not trade for Figgins
A historically overachieving, average defensive infielder on the down side of his career. With Figgins comes an excessively bloated contract and a decline of power / defensive prowess when compared to our current third baseman. Not to mention he is a former Angel; not a stop gap Angel like Matsui, but a true dyed in the wool L.A.A Slegna who celebrated AL west titles on Oakland turf in 2004 and 2005. Figgins is an agent of the enemy, no thank you.
I'd love to get Sizemore from the Indians... I've always been a big fan of his.
Doubt he’ll be available, though. And if he is, I doubt we’d be able to afford him. If we could use him, we’d be in contention, and if we’re in contention we won’t have enough “surplus” to be able pay for him. No, the Indians will want too much.
"We don't see things as they are, we see things as we are."
~ Anais Nin

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